Bathroom Electrical Wiring Requirements in the 2023 NEC
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2023
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Here’s where you can find support and tips on electrical, fire and life safety. Today, learn the important points of bathroom electrical wiring using NFPA 70®, National Electrical Code® (NEC®), 2023 edition.
In this video, you’ll see how to use NFPA LiNK to quickly search for information on bathroom electrical wiring. The search hits include guidance for both residential and commercial bathrooms.
Topics covered:
1:05 definition of “Bathroom”
2:10 service disconnecting means
2:28 overcurrent protective devices
3:02 mobile and manufactured home specifics
3:07 base rule for receptacle outlet installation
3:34 bathroom branch circuits
5:43 branch circuit in residential bathrooms
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Great job Corey!
Great presentation
Having been an electrician since 1981, i can't help thinking the manufacturers pay the code committee to keep adding requirements for GFCI and ARCFAULT. i understand the original safety issues which brought about GFCI, but it sure seems like we are trying to solve a lot of problems that don't exist.
Yup, I would much rather see them disallow backstabbing of receptacles and wiring devices to prevent arc faults than to require AFCI's on practically everything. Backstabbing is the primary arc fault source in residential from what I've seen.
Want a GFCI outlet in your bathroom that never had one in a very old house?
Easy!
Shell out 20 grand to remodel the house (which usually has lead paint on the walls), replace run new wiring, new drop and panel, ground rods, etc. And not expect it to ever match your old decor.
Curious at timeline 3:10 you talk about a "base rule",I have yet to hear this expression used in NFPA 70, I've looked into definitions 100 found no such term and have used the search engine in NFPA link with no results.
The article title "210.52 Dwelling Unit Receptacle Outlets." dictates that all of the following in this article is for "dwelling units" unless specifically stated otherwise,such as using the wording other then dwelling unit.
This idea of a" base rule" is foreign to me in dealing with NFPA.
Looking forward to your explanation.
I'm still looking for an explanation on that base rule you talk about!!
Good morning, Chris F, and thank you for your comments!
You are correct that a small segment of the video was modified to remove the reference to commercial bathrooms. The rule that was being addressed in the discussion around section 210.52(D) only applies to dwelling units. Our narrator and subject matter expert (SME) misspoke when recording the video live. We are glad it got caught and we could modify it accordingly.
As far as the “base rule” term that was used, our SME had the following to share with you: “That is not an NEC term but more of a personal teaching term that I am utilizing in the video. The idea behind it is just to ingrain a basic thought for installers to know that a receptacle needs to be installed within 3 feet of any bathroom sink in dwelling units. Now that you have brought it to my attention, I will look for a better way of teaching this moving forward without using the term ‘rule’ as part of that teaching. I apologize for the error regarding the reference to commercial bathrooms in the original live recording of the video. I am human and I do make mistakes, but I will try and be more conscientious moving forward. Thank you for your feedback and have a great day!”
@@nfpalink I appreciate you getting back to me, I understand how the code evolves over time. And you caught me at a particular time when I was in an argument with another colleague of mine. And he was insistent that it was required in commercial locations. So when I try to do some research( for my argument) I came across this video and then it had me doubt my conclusion.
I do understand that we look at the code as a type of ladder with a base that we build on. So when you use the terminology base rule I was wondering in my head, is this a metaphor of this concept. And I should be looking somewhere else in the code also.
Trust me I get the human part, being an electrician there are things at night I think about......... "I should have done that differently"
Peace, Bro.
Back in the mid 1990,s, on a small job. the electrician years before had installed the main breaker panel in the bathroom. i thought at the time. dummy.
That's not bad.. A friend of mine bought a Ryan Homes house built in 2010!.. Not sure how familiar you are with them.. But they're junk. The basement was not finished when she bought the house. With that, there is rough in plumbing for a basement bathroom with a shower they installed ..they also put the electrical panel in the corner of the basement where they installed the rough in plumbing!!!
@@GageDrums in the nec. Can't be in a bathroom. Not quite sure when this was added in the code. But a really dumb and dangerous place for a main breaker panel.
lol.... Hey you edit this video and you didn't respond to my comment. so you eliminated the commercial requirement that you talked about.