Lol I used to watch him then this monstrosity popped up in my recommendations and I couldn't stop thinking about the thumbnail so I had to come back to it. It's like a few hours after i first seen it lol
Ok, so what would it take to make a tractorcycle practical? - Moving the mount higher would enable the bike to tip backwards under load instead of forwards, improving the traction of the rear tire. Keeping the mount where it is, will improve steering. Ideally a system will be available to move the mount around the center of mass for ideal control - Training wheels, a trike, or wider tires would provide zero-speed stability - A rigid tow line would enable the bike to provide braking as well as acceleration, but increases the risk of getting run over. - The drivetrain needs to be redesigned. If its structural components deform in a few hours of screwing around, it won't survive practical use. - Selectable gears would improve the range of speeds and loads a single tractorcycle can handle. IDK
More improvements, add a mantis claw shaped frame to it with a hinge on the front where the fork connects. The long back will have a rail system that will allow the seat to be moved, which should solve the ballast problem if you move it foreward, and then once you are done towing you can slide it back as need be. The front hinge which holds the fork can be moved front to back as well for optimizing the distance between the hips and furthest pedal so you can maximize your power output/further tweak the ballast. Weight is a non-issue here considering the sheer torque this system has. Idk how a tricycle would be implemented though, either standard or reversed with two weels in front/1 in back, and if it is best to power the single weel or the double wheels
This is amazing! I really think this could be a thing, not the 74T but maybe a 50T with an electric motor. It could be used as a really good cargo bike. Im trying to make a bike that can pull a small boat
I have one of those 2 stroke bike kits on my iron horse, it pulls a double kayak trailer loaded with a days worth of gear no problem, even up some pretty big hills it's a breeze
Use a tandem, add slots to carry removable weights on the frame, training wheels, and use a crankset with a front derailleur to give yourself 2 or 3 speeds (one of which is even slower/higher torque than this one). Still not very useful, but way cooler (could actually do all the towing you tried to with this one).
He was basically doing "burnouts" at a bunch of points in this video because the weight on the rear (drive) wheel was too little compared to the weight he was towing. So yeah, need that ballast. Pretty silly.
I have wanted to CNC a custom sprocket of this magnitude but never had the brass nuts to follow it thru. Thank you for answering a 30 year old question. Fun to watch you all do this, however painful and expensive to execute. Cheers!
for a science project that a buddy of mine did years ago he took all the spokes on his front wheel and made the center offset, we called it the bounce bike. If you put your feet on the front pegs and pumped you could move forward and if you went too fast then it started to bounce the front really aggressively. Would love to see you try something like that for fun!
It'd be a wheelie machine and that's about it. Roughly one mph difference per tooth at the drive wheel. I want to say the engine crank has a 10t gear output, the clutch has a 40t input, the clutch output is 10t. Stock most kits are 44t for the final drive. My bike does 35mph with a 36t final drive on a 26inch wheel and the engines turning around 6500rpm. I can't find my old gearing calculator or I'd get you a better number
Put it on a trike. Preferably a fat tire trike for more traction. Maybe 20" wheels for an even lower gear ratio. With a delta trike you could put the tow line right to the rear axle and eliminate any tenancy for the front end to rise.
Even better, a reverse trike: two front wheels. Put more weight on the front. Another alternative to keep the front down is to put the hitch for the tow line below the rear axle, so that the tension and weight actually helps it plant the front wheel more firmly. Just not too low, or you might lose traction in the rear.
I don’t think the extra weight on the front is enough to offset the loss of traction from having only one wheel in the back instead of two. Maybe a standard trike with a weight rack on the front? Good idea with the lowered hitch though, that’s how most agricultural tractors do it.
Tractor hitches sit below the axel so that the weight of then implement actually pulls down on the front through torque around the axel. Just build a lever and that extends below the rear axel
I'd actually really like to see someone make something like this. It would be less of a gimmick/joke, and more of an actual usable tool. Of course, it would still be an incredibly niche product and not practical for the kinds of things that people typically use bicycles for. But it would be a cool and interesting machine.
Please find a tandem to try the cog on towing a load - a long bicycle with way more weight forwards of the axle to not going to wheelie! Also you then have an eccentric bottom bracket to tension the chain!
Actually did this in our backyard quite a few times...cobbling bike parts together and reversing the gears. Dubbed the result "Slo-Ped bikes"...they were somewhat handy for pulling wooden carts (with bicycle wheels) that we'd load up with 250-300lbs of hay and haul to the barn. Traction obviously becomes the issue when you've only got a single drive wheel though ;-) First one or so we actually Dremeled out the inside of the large sprocket to fit the proper sprocket mounting on the wheel--but then we later just got lazy and stuck the gear into the wheel mounting (bypassing the ratchet) and had a "Johnny one-popper" where you could pedal the bike--slowly--with a single foot. Of course, this had the side effect of unscrewing the sprocket if you tried to slow the bike down with the pedals ;-). Good times.
If you attach the toe hook at just the right height being 1 wheel drive won't be any worse than 2 wheel drive for traction. The trick is for the wheely torque to be just enough to remove most of the weight from the front wheel. So all the weight of the bike is supported by the drive wheel.
I absolutely love this Idea, but you HAVE to make a Part 2 with a 3 wheeled disability bike with 2 front tires. There are Cargo editions of those, that can hold ballast in the rear and front and ballance would be no problem any longer.
A bit of practical use: I have an old tourer that I use - among everything else - for towing a 15' canoe. Nothing as fancy as your setup, just a triple with a 22, a wide-range cassette, and huge slick tires. I simply strap a dolly onto the canoe, throw paddles and lightweight gear inside, pour the heavier stuff into lowrider front bags, hitch the end of the canoe to an adapter on the rear rack, and head out. I have a nice 15km stretch of whitewater nearby, with a put-in 45 km upstream from home. Last time I rode 15 km upstream with the canoe in tow, met up with friends headed the same way in a car, locked my bike, threw the canoe on the car, paddled the 15 km of whitewater with them, then paddled the remaining 15 km of flatwater, retrieved my bike, towed the canoe back home, unhitched it, and rode to a pub to brag about it. But what I really need is a folding tandem that would fit inside a 17' canoe.
One of the great videos I've seen. If you've never tried to tow or pull anything with a bike in your child hood (or adulthood), you have not lived. This is nostalgic beyond belief. Great fun video, thanks!
One of my friends made a chainring as big as a 26" rim, and put it on his bike. That thing was literally not moving. We experimented with how much it can tow, and basically found out that you could bring a house down with it.
@@TheGrayWolf81 we got a weed wacker engine and welded a tiny chainring on it (without the clutch, directly mounted to the crankshaft) and put the thing on the bike with some adapters. The bike was moving about 15cm per second at idle and about 15 - 20 km/h at full throttle. The things we do as bored 15 year olds...
I often climb steep mountains with a typical mountain bicycle, I would really appreciate this gear’s existence, some of you probably know how quickly you get tired in even the lowest gear lol
I think this gear would be too big, even for the steepest hill. Something in between this behemoth and a regular large sprocket would probably work for you though.
The thing is, the amount of work you need to put out to get to the top doesn't get lower (it probably gets higher due to all the losses, actually). And it's hardly optimal having to turn pedals like a maniac, so it honestly wouldn't be any good
@@MrCh0o yes but the problem isn’t energy spent. It’s easier to lift 10 pounds 10 times than 100 pounds 1 times, for example, even though the physical “work” is the same.
@@aienbalosaienbalos4186 That's what the second part of my comment was about, the optimal conditions for your muscles aren't moving your legs superfast
I would recommend making stabilizers for the bike, as well as adding weights to the front and back of the bike. So like cast iron bars with weights hanging under the BB. This would be insanely awesome!
I made a big trike a while back, with a bunch of gears set up and instead of going for the 1 wheel drive like a lot of trikes do, we went solid axle with extremely reduced gears. The lowest gear on my trike was a 9:1 and the highest was a absurd (especially when we set it up with an electric motor) absolutely crazy fast .9:6. The lowest gear on that trike is the only reason it can make it up hills, haul weight in the baskets and tow little cart trailers. Also the wheels on the back of the trike are actual truck tires, granted they are as skinny as you can street legally get, they still weigh a good few pounds each, and with the lowest gear on our trike you can almost pull a wheelie and on gravel you can easily if you peddle hard enough, break traction for a good few peddles and fling a few pebbles. The motor on full blast will peel out and never catch traction, the trike will never move fast enough to catch traction on gravel, and its not even a super powerful motor either. Frankly the low gear makes trail riding it through muck and things like that super nice. I can't hit certain mountainbike trails but I can navigate the mucky trails and wet trails with absolutely no fear of loss of balance, and I sit high enough on the trike I'll likely never get wet, and with the low gear peddling through everything is so effortless especially if I use the motor. Its funny, every time someone laughs because of it. The thing has enough buoyancy that I can float it across lakes, creeks and rivers, just keep peddling where others either get off and overhead their bikes to get to the otherside, or if Ifeel spicy I'll use the motor with higher gears to paddle faster. That thing can make a wake behind it in my 3rd to last gear. Any higher and the wheels spin so fast it just cavitates the water and I lose paddle power. It gets going fast enough that none of my buddies can swim fast enough in a stretch to keep up with it from a dead stop. I can even let them go first and it will pass them. That trike is my favorite build ever, I should post some videos of the ol' girl, showin' how bad she is at basically everything. I can pull a 0-point turn lawnmower on an open deck 9 foot long trailer like its neigh wightless without the motor assiting me. Just using the gears I have set up.
It would be interesting to see how well this works with more than two wheels and a different centre of gravity - such as with a trike or even a recumbent bicycle.
I mean, he isn't wrong, if you wanted to plow a field, you'd be better off using a good ol' human driven plow (biology spoiler: humans are also animals)
Have seen a similar take on this which actually had a practical use and worked. A tricycle was used to reposition tool trailers. The nose weight of about 100kg provided the required traction.
Now swap the sprockets the other way, and see how fast you can get. You will need a long flat path, and a launch assist as there is no way you will be able to ride from a standing start.
Im not sure why but ive been subscribed for a while now and this is the first time ive seen this. This gives me flashbacks as a kid when we hooked the wagon up to our bikes pulling them around.
I see huge potential for a rock crawling quadracycle with that gear. Maybe Evan for leg amputee's. It's a great ratio for hand peddling I'd imagine. I can see it going up a technical forest trail over roots and mounds.
I feel like this could potentially be somewhat useful as a trike so you aren't constantly fighting to not fall over. More tire mass on the ground means more power too.
I modernized a 1970's Schwinn Continental extra-tall frame with a 3x8 drive train. The shortest gearing is 30 teeth up from with 34 in the rear. And when I have 90lbs of groceries in the kiddie cart climbing out of the Alum Creek river valley in Westerville, Ohio... It's about perfect!
Did something similar with a BMX in the early 90s, from memory was a 16 tooth chainring to a 52 tooth chainring adapted to mount as a sprocket. Had a home made sidecar fitted which solved the problem of balance at low speed - the gearing was low enough you could sit on the sidecar and pedal uphill by turning the cranks easily with one hand.
For plowing, a pedaling platform fixed on the ground with a flywheel, pulling the plow with a rope. Give 1-2 yards of slack for get the flywheel up to speed, it would uproot a small tree in no time!
if you want to tow the car you need the bike attachment to be as high as possible and the car attachment as low as possible, thus the tension of the rope is adding to your grip instead of lifting you off the ground.
What you need to do is drive a 30-pound flywheel with a chain & pedals, then, via a clutch, drive the rear wheel, using the same ratio. I do that with the delta recumbent trike I built, so I can climb steep grades in the highest ratio (it's like 50-1 or there about: there are three sprockets: three chain rings on the pedal shaft, one on the flywheel and one on the clutch (a modified Honda 50 clutch), and 7 on the jackshaft (there are cogs on each rear wheel for two-wheel drive). This makes pedal effort very smooth.
"So it's really clear to me now why nobody sells bikes like this" Some learn by reading, some by watching and some people just have to pee on the electric fence themselves.
I used to watch you a couple years ago when I was really into mountain biking, recently wanted to get back on the trails to get healthy and tried to find your channel again but I couldn’t! Low and behold, you show up on my recommended the next day!! Glad to find ya!
With this bike and those gears, you could swap places to where the large cog is on the front and the small cog is on the rear, then you have a super fast bicycle although it would be hard to peddle to get going
I think a pedal-powered towing device would be pretty neat. I mean, even if it took like 20 minutes to pull a car from a ditch, that's faster than a tow truck would get there.
😂 lowkey fell off my chair when Kevin got in the kids trailer in slow-mo with epic music and helmet and all. also I don't think the Wrangler weights close to 3 tons
If you want to tow something effectively... 1. You're gonna need to maintain a low center of gravity. 2. Fat wheels should help you with traction. 3. Shorter crank arms should let you pedal a little faster. 4. You want a more rigid towing brace that connects to your bike across multiple points along the frame, and not just the back wheel. This should help a lot with preventing undesired wheelies. 5. Making the bike a little heavier might help with towing heavy loads, because of newtonian mechanics. 6. You are going to want a longer wheelbase, man. 7. You need more power. A lot more. Think either Tandem, E-Bike, or both. 8. You're gonna want multiple speeds on that thing. That way you can actually go places when you're not towing anything. I strongly recommend an internal gear hub if you're gonna do towing. 9. If you do turn it into an e-Bike, use two motors; one on the bottom bracket, and one on the front wheel. This would turn it into a 2WD machine, but with the weight being a little further forward. The motors would help a lot when you actually want to go at a decent speed, while the super low gear would get you going in the first place. (You may want to use traction control as well( I expect a lot of wheel spin.) 10. Larger diameter wheels and/or some kind of front suspension may help a lot when you go over bumps. 11. If you aren't using a derailleur, then a belt might not be a bad idea if you expect it to be under high load often. 12. Ghost Rings might be a viable way to maintain tension.
I initially thought that the engagement on the cranks would be absolute garbage, the I realized the amount of pressure between engagement and waiting for it to engage would be negligible.
now switch the cog and chainring and we'll watch you fly to jupiter in just 3 pedal strokes
I don't think you would be able to pedal! it would probably be scraping and tearing up the road!
old track bikes go up to 104 teeth
@@cameronjacobi9211 3:1 isn’t that big a gear tho
There's a bike in the Mountain Bike Museum in Marin like that. Crazy.
Check out time trial bikes 😀
You’re about 10 years ahead of Sram and Shimano with this one.
Wassup jared
Facts
@@eugene44569 fuck bro it’s Eugene, can I have mod?
@@keqrou lol
@@eugene44569 hi
On a tandem, you’d have the weight and leverage to keep the wheels down, as well as extra pulling power.
😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
SETH PLEASE DO IT!!
Tandem tow bike!
Tandem fat bike!
Make it a tandem trike for the balance as well
5:42 This is the first time I’ve seen someone do a burnout on a bicycle and I’m impressed
i can do it sort of
I've done it in my apartment lmaoo
It’s pretty easy on not great surfaces like that sorta gravel he was in. But you it’s between that and a wheelie if you have traction.
Bruh our whole group can do it
I've been around Seth's channel for 4 years and this is the first time I've heard him laugh like a maniac with his creation and I'm loving it 😂😂
Facts
go to the video where seth explodes a tubeless tire
Same gear bud! That laugh lol
I want to subscribe to a channel of just people making this laugh.
The "Im shocked that this is working!" laugh.
Lol I used to watch him then this monstrosity popped up in my recommendations and I couldn't stop thinking about the thumbnail so I had to come back to it. It's like a few hours after i first seen it lol
Right idea, wrong frame.
This needs to go on a Trike for stability. That would work well and you can add ballast.
@Thomas B i need horse
Needs a Bakfiets, or cargo bike
@@wobblysauce what are you, Dutch?
@@Echinacae Not I
right? i went to see done with wider tires as well
Kevin is worth his weight in gold. Never lose that man
That says something, that man is big! But agree with you!
@@Warfer24 He is a nice friend to Seth and Oscar 😊
Worth more than his weight in gold... Infinitely more...
Ok, so what would it take to make a tractorcycle practical?
- Moving the mount higher would enable the bike to tip backwards under load instead of forwards, improving the traction of the rear tire. Keeping the mount where it is, will improve steering. Ideally a system will be available to move the mount around the center of mass for ideal control
- Training wheels, a trike, or wider tires would provide zero-speed stability
- A rigid tow line would enable the bike to provide braking as well as acceleration, but increases the risk of getting run over.
- The drivetrain needs to be redesigned. If its structural components deform in a few hours of screwing around, it won't survive practical use.
- Selectable gears would improve the range of speeds and loads a single tractorcycle can handle.
IDK
More improvements, add a mantis claw shaped frame to it with a hinge on the front where the fork connects. The long back will have a rail system that will allow the seat to be moved, which should solve the ballast problem if you move it foreward, and then once you are done towing you can slide it back as need be. The front hinge which holds the fork can be moved front to back as well for optimizing the distance between the hips and furthest pedal so you can maximize your power output/further tweak the ballast. Weight is a non-issue here considering the sheer torque this system has. Idk how a tricycle would be implemented though, either standard or reversed with two weels in front/1 in back, and if it is best to power the single weel or the double wheels
Nerd
Nerd
guy with a 3:1 reduction: "this thing is gonna be geared like a tractor"
tractor with 400:1 reduction: "you'll get there"
Imagine having to turn the pedals 400 times just to turn the wheels once
@@Ethelberd you still move but slow
@@Christian.987 you wouldn’t be able to keep your balance you’d be moving too slowly
@@desirefusion532 Training wheels...
@@CynHicks he’s a fully grown man………..
"This is pointless"
Everyone who tries it giggles like a schoolchild.
Nah mate, the point is it's a giggle. It's fun, who cares?
i think a setup with this and a faster gear once you get up to speed it would be great for a van or bus type pedal car
@@kanekopoint4273 You're not wrong.
Also: anyone who's ridden the Horrible Hundred in WI or the Hilly Hundred in IN.
That was the most terrifying "doing something little different but kinda the same" I have already heard
please put it on an e-bike
This is amazing! I really think this could be a thing, not the 74T but maybe a 50T with an electric motor. It could be used as a really good cargo bike. Im trying to make a bike that can pull a small boat
It's already a thing. There's quite a few cargo bikes out there with motors
I have one of those 2 stroke bike kits on my iron horse, it pulls a double kayak trailer loaded with a days worth of gear no problem, even up some pretty big hills it's a breeze
@@petrolmonkey1973 same. I have a 4 stroke tho with a 50 tooth and it tries to do wheelies at full throttle with a 200 pound load on it
A hundred bucks for a bare minimum-effort chainring... Im in the wrong business
Even a 50t to 24t is a lower ratio than you could possibly need and be practical.
Use a tandem, add slots to carry removable weights on the frame, training wheels, and use a crankset with a front derailleur to give yourself 2 or 3 speeds (one of which is even slower/higher torque than this one). Still not very useful, but way cooler (could actually do all the towing you tried to with this one).
Add a seat belt so you can apply greater force to the crank
yes
He was basically doing "burnouts" at a bunch of points in this video because the weight on the rear (drive) wheel was too little compared to the weight he was towing. So yeah, need that ballast. Pretty silly.
@@MinecraftManSteav or use those fancy cleats the lycra rangers use on their road bikes?
@@julianbrelsford and a fat tire in the back
“Imagine a world where fitness is optional”
My world….
E bikes
@@jj182bass based on his profile pic, DH
ebikes, i dont intend to get fit/lean i just wanna bomb the downhills, bike park or my ebike, the ebike is soo good and ive lost 25kg lol
@@MrSupermugen nah ebikes are generally for people with more money than motivation
@@reboundrides8132 True
I have wanted to CNC a custom sprocket of this magnitude but never had the brass nuts to follow it thru. Thank you for answering a 30 year old question. Fun to watch you all do this, however painful and expensive to execute. Cheers!
"Hey I got my car stuck can you tow me out"
"Yeah sure ill be right over"
_Rides in on a bicycle_
_slowly_
@@nickkonkle541_menacingly_
“Or you need a custom made bicycle that’s super long” seems like you got your next video right there :)
Like a tandem?
@@thomasoneill6070 No I think like 5 times longer than that😂
I've always thought about making a world record for "worlds longest mountain bike"
@@thomasoneill6070 This is exactly what I was thinking
Get a Salsa Blackborow or Surly Big Fat Dummy.
for a science project that a buddy of mine did years ago he took all the spokes on his front wheel and made the center offset, we called it the bounce bike. If you put your feet on the front pegs and pumped you could move forward and if you went too fast then it started to bounce the front really aggressively. Would love to see you try something like that for fun!
id love to see how that rear gear would fair on a motorized bicycle
It'd be a wheelie machine and that's about it. Roughly one mph difference per tooth at the drive wheel. I want to say the engine crank has a 10t gear output, the clutch has a 40t input, the clutch output is 10t. Stock most kits are 44t for the final drive.
My bike does 35mph with a 36t final drive on a 26inch wheel and the engines turning around 6500rpm. I can't find my old gearing calculator or I'd get you a better number
I think my Bafang BBS02b would top out about walking pace but have gobs of torque and wouldn't bog down much on just about any hill.
Put it on a trike. Preferably a fat tire trike for more traction. Maybe 20" wheels for an even lower gear ratio. With a delta trike you could put the tow line right to the rear axle and eliminate any tenancy for the front end to rise.
Even better, a reverse trike: two front wheels. Put more weight on the front. Another alternative to keep the front down is to put the hitch for the tow line below the rear axle, so that the tension and weight actually helps it plant the front wheel more firmly. Just not too low, or you might lose traction in the rear.
I don’t think the extra weight on the front is enough to offset the loss of traction from having only one wheel in the back instead of two. Maybe a standard trike with a weight rack on the front? Good idea with the lowered hitch though, that’s how most agricultural tractors do it.
My thought exactly, a trike with a slightly less ridiculous ratio would be excellent
Tractor hitches sit below the axel so that the weight of then implement actually pulls down on the front through torque around the axel. Just build a lever and that extends below the rear axel
I'd actually really like to see someone make something like this. It would be less of a gimmick/joke, and more of an actual usable tool. Of course, it would still be an incredibly niche product and not practical for the kinds of things that people typically use bicycles for. But it would be a cool and interesting machine.
Please find a tandem to try the cog on towing a load - a long bicycle with way more weight forwards of the axle to not going to wheelie!
Also you then have an eccentric bottom bracket to tension the chain!
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Fatbike would give more grip when towing, and three rings in the front would make it (slightly) more useful for actual biking.
To have a front derailuer you also need a rear derailuer, which means the cage would be stupid long
@@fullerblacksmithing7954 are you saying that like it's a bad thing? Smells like content to me 😎
Actually did this in our backyard quite a few times...cobbling bike parts together and reversing the gears. Dubbed the result "Slo-Ped bikes"...they were somewhat handy for pulling wooden carts (with bicycle wheels) that we'd load up with 250-300lbs of hay and haul to the barn. Traction obviously becomes the issue when you've only got a single drive wheel though ;-)
First one or so we actually Dremeled out the inside of the large sprocket to fit the proper sprocket mounting on the wheel--but then we later just got lazy and stuck the gear into the wheel mounting (bypassing the ratchet) and had a "Johnny one-popper" where you could pedal the bike--slowly--with a single foot. Of course, this had the side effect of unscrewing the sprocket if you tried to slow the bike down with the pedals ;-).
Good times.
If you attach the toe hook at just the right height being 1 wheel drive won't be any worse than 2 wheel drive for traction.
The trick is for the wheely torque to be just enough to remove most of the weight from the front wheel. So all the weight of the bike is supported by the drive wheel.
imagine playing frisbee with that 😭
The forbidden frisbee
Killer frisbee
Slice……
Hits off your skull and your dead
LOL
This is an old school Seth Bike Hacks video 👌🏻
Why Arnt u verifyed
Why are you guys here?
from what i remember they can choose whether they want to get verified or stay non-verified
from what i remember :p
PI simplifies in the gear ratio calculation, no need :p
Ah bah tiens bonsoir 😉😉!
Yes we only need the number of teeth!
Exactly. It shows exactly how little he knows what he's talking about.
PI is never in the equation for gear (gear and chain) ratios
You just need a pie sized gear
I absolutely love this Idea, but you HAVE to make a Part 2 with a 3 wheeled disability bike with 2 front tires. There are Cargo editions of those, that can hold ballast in the rear and front and ballance would be no problem any longer.
A bit of practical use: I have an old tourer that I use - among everything else - for towing a 15' canoe. Nothing as fancy as your setup, just a triple with a 22, a wide-range cassette, and huge slick tires. I simply strap a dolly onto the canoe, throw paddles and lightweight gear inside, pour the heavier stuff into lowrider front bags, hitch the end of the canoe to an adapter on the rear rack, and head out. I have a nice 15km stretch of whitewater nearby, with a put-in 45 km upstream from home. Last time I rode 15 km upstream with the canoe in tow, met up with friends headed the same way in a car, locked my bike, threw the canoe on the car, paddled the 15 km of whitewater with them, then paddled the remaining 15 km of flatwater, retrieved my bike, towed the canoe back home, unhitched it, and rode to a pub to brag about it. But what I really need is a folding tandem that would fit inside a 17' canoe.
Can we just take a minute to appreciate that Seth basically put a modified ocular saw blade on his bike as a rear gear
Yes
I took roughly 8 minutes and 33 seconds to appreciate it
I need this. My 50T isn't low enough for going straight up downhill tracks.
I want so see custom bike towing competitions. Really wild stuff getting made then doing some standard tests/competitions
i feel like theres a life quote about how the climbs can’t get any easier.
Put the rear cog at the front and front in the back for high speed lol
This!
Then it's just 1:1
@@stendijk8949 How does 74/24 gearing become 1:1 when you switch the gears around?
@@sampuhhupmas5666 sorry misread
Check out the bicycle speed records, the bikes are exactly as you described and they ride behind a draft vehicle.
How light do you want it to be?
*Seth: “YES”*
One of the great videos I've seen. If you've never tried to tow or pull anything with a bike in your child hood (or adulthood), you have not lived. This is nostalgic beyond belief. Great fun video, thanks!
One of my friends made a chainring as big as a 26" rim, and put it on his bike. That thing was literally not moving. We experimented with how much it can tow, and basically found out that you could bring a house down with it.
Should strap an ebike motor to it
@@TheGrayWolf81 we got a weed wacker engine and welded a tiny chainring on it (without the clutch, directly mounted to the crankshaft) and put the thing on the bike with some adapters. The bike was moving about 15cm per second at idle and about 15 - 20 km/h at full throttle. The things we do as bored 15 year olds...
Kevin sitting in the back like a little kid, and wearing his helmet cracked me up.
What if you swap them around?
The pedal gets tight af but if u have the power to pedal it then it goes fast fr
road to heaven
I often climb steep mountains with a typical mountain bicycle, I would really appreciate this gear’s existence, some of you probably know how quickly you get tired in even the lowest gear lol
You go faster walking with the bike in your shoulder.
I think this gear would be too big, even for the steepest hill. Something in between this behemoth and a regular large sprocket would probably work for you though.
The thing is, the amount of work you need to put out to get to the top doesn't get lower (it probably gets higher due to all the losses, actually). And it's hardly optimal having to turn pedals like a maniac, so it honestly wouldn't be any good
@@MrCh0o yes but the problem isn’t energy spent.
It’s easier to lift 10 pounds 10 times than 100 pounds 1 times, for example, even though the physical “work” is the same.
@@aienbalosaienbalos4186 That's what the second part of my comment was about, the optimal conditions for your muscles aren't moving your legs superfast
“It’s good for keks” - former Starcraft player identified.
So glad I wasn't the only one who caught that
Or WoW
This video should be renamed to: Seth forgot that E-bikes exist so he took matters into his own hands.
I would love to see this done again but with training wheels on the bike and see how the results change!
Seth: you’re better off just using an animal
Every animal rights activists: say it again and you’re kneecaps might go missing
Animal rights activists don't steal kneecaps, only bicycles
@@caronice666 and tax pays from people.
"how many torque you wanna produce with the ratio?"
seth: hell yess
Enough to snap spokes if the front wheel stays down!
imagine this on a middrive ebike
@@SimonBauer7 500lb ft ebike woo
I would recommend making stabilizers for the bike, as well as adding weights to the front and back of the bike. So like cast iron bars with weights hanging under the BB. This would be insanely awesome!
I made a big trike a while back, with a bunch of gears set up and instead of going for the 1 wheel drive like a lot of trikes do, we went solid axle with extremely reduced gears. The lowest gear on my trike was a 9:1 and the highest was a absurd (especially when we set it up with an electric motor) absolutely crazy fast .9:6.
The lowest gear on that trike is the only reason it can make it up hills, haul weight in the baskets and tow little cart trailers. Also the wheels on the back of the trike are actual truck tires, granted they are as skinny as you can street legally get, they still weigh a good few pounds each, and with the lowest gear on our trike you can almost pull a wheelie and on gravel you can easily if you peddle hard enough, break traction for a good few peddles and fling a few pebbles. The motor on full blast will peel out and never catch traction, the trike will never move fast enough to catch traction on gravel, and its not even a super powerful motor either.
Frankly the low gear makes trail riding it through muck and things like that super nice. I can't hit certain mountainbike trails but I can navigate the mucky trails and wet trails with absolutely no fear of loss of balance, and I sit high enough on the trike I'll likely never get wet, and with the low gear peddling through everything is so effortless especially if I use the motor. Its funny, every time someone laughs because of it. The thing has enough buoyancy that I can float it across lakes, creeks and rivers, just keep peddling where others either get off and overhead their bikes to get to the otherside, or if Ifeel spicy I'll use the motor with higher gears to paddle faster. That thing can make a wake behind it in my 3rd to last gear. Any higher and the wheels spin so fast it just cavitates the water and I lose paddle power. It gets going fast enough that none of my buddies can swim fast enough in a stretch to keep up with it from a dead stop. I can even let them go first and it will pass them.
That trike is my favorite build ever, I should post some videos of the ol' girl, showin' how bad she is at basically everything. I can pull a 0-point turn lawnmower on an open deck 9 foot long trailer like its neigh wightless without the motor assiting me. Just using the gears I have set up.
It would be interesting to see how well this works with more than two wheels and a different centre of gravity - such as with a trike or even a recumbent bicycle.
“Even if you want to theoretically plow a field with a bicycle, you’re probably better off just using an animal.”
but animals are big and need care and they cant even use a bike
@@nopda4095 they can’t even use a bike? Well why bother even thinking about it!
@@nopda4095 I heard they can unicycle though!
@@joshnabours9102 i know there is a grizzly bear that does that, you do too
I mean, he isn't wrong, if you wanted to plow a field, you'd be better off using a good ol' human driven plow (biology spoiler: humans are also animals)
I think Seth just invented a new sport “bicycle pulling”
3:23 It makes an optical illusion that makes it appear like you are peddling a bike with no chain.
"today, we're going to be doing something a little bit different. but kinda INSANE"
Lovely, also kinda like the “old” Seth to do something like this. Love to see more like this.
Old Seth is new Seth.
Have seen a similar take on this which actually had a practical use and worked. A tricycle was used to reposition tool trailers. The nose weight of about 100kg provided the required traction.
Greatest thing I've seen on RUclips in the last year hands down
Now swap the sprockets the other way, and see how fast you can get. You will need a long flat path, and a launch assist as there is no way you will be able to ride from a standing start.
“If you’ve ever been wondering what happens when you do this, well now you do”
Wow, that’s profound.
Im not sure why but ive been subscribed for a while now and this is the first time ive seen this. This gives me flashbacks as a kid when we hooked the wagon up to our bikes pulling them around.
I see huge potential for a rock crawling quadracycle with that gear. Maybe Evan for leg amputee's. It's a great ratio for hand peddling I'd imagine. I can see it going up a technical forest trail over roots and mounds.
There's an E-bike mobility device called "not a wheelchair" that would be pretty awesome with that addition.
Finally, a bike that Oscar can keep up without breaking into a trot.
0:53 makes me feel better knowing that things I learn in school actually can be useful 😂
The murder machine! I thought this thing was long gone. Good to see it still bringing smiles.
I feel like this could potentially be somewhat useful as a trike so you aren't constantly fighting to not fall over. More tire mass on the ground means more power too.
"Earn it, slowly"
You summed me.
There are a lot of great comments on how to make it work better, we wanna see it Seth!
"It's good for KEKS"
THAT got a chortle out of me lol.
I modernized a 1970's Schwinn Continental extra-tall frame with a 3x8 drive train. The shortest gearing is 30 teeth up from with 34 in the rear.
And when I have 90lbs of groceries in the kiddie cart climbing out of the Alum Creek river valley in Westerville, Ohio... It's about perfect!
I've got a useful idea for this, use this gear to pull logs from places where the Gator can't go.
Imagine someone towing a boat and get's on a downhill only to remember he can't stop with just the bike brakes lmao
Did something similar with a BMX in the early 90s, from memory was a 16 tooth chainring to a 52 tooth chainring adapted to mount as a sprocket. Had a home made sidecar fitted which solved the problem of balance at low speed - the gearing was low enough you could sit on the sidecar and pedal uphill by turning the cranks easily with one hand.
I thought my rockhopper was bad with a 30t chain ring and a 50t granny cog. Lol
I wanna see this with an electric motor on it. Add tons of weight into some steel front forks and see if you can optimize power output on the motor.
Front hub motor. Adds weight plus makes it 2wd. Would require pedaling tho
@@0xsergy I don't think it would. Make it a schedule 2 bike.
“It’s good for keks” another legendary Seth moment
kek yeah … lok tar
"its good for keks"
a fellow man of culture
For plowing, a pedaling platform fixed on the ground with a flywheel, pulling the plow with a rope. Give 1-2 yards of slack for get the flywheel up to speed, it would uproot a small tree in no time!
Can we get some more burn park videos please
Smh
Thats alright kid🤣
heck yeah that intro is sick
"It's good for keks"? Does Seth spend more time deep online than I realized?
Did he say what I think he said?
This is an old school seth video, zero fucks given : )
if you want to tow the car you need the bike attachment to be as high as possible and the car attachment as low as possible, thus the tension of the rope is adding to your grip instead of lifting you off the ground.
I’d love to see this on a custom, 80lb, extra long frame with 36” wheels and an extra large bike trailer.
Now do it the other way around. massive chainring and small cog. What would that feel like?
will ride faster than F1
Probably just break
What you need to do is drive a 30-pound flywheel with a chain & pedals, then, via a clutch, drive the rear wheel, using the same ratio.
I do that with the delta recumbent trike I built, so I can climb steep grades in the highest ratio (it's like 50-1 or there about: there are three sprockets: three chain rings on the pedal shaft, one on the flywheel and one on the clutch (a modified Honda 50 clutch), and 7 on the jackshaft (there are cogs on each rear wheel for two-wheel drive). This makes pedal effort very smooth.
Imagine how nice an electric version would be.
Now we just need the "What i[f] you do a TALL geared bike?!" (i.e., big ass front sprocket, and then a tiny baby rear one)
Edit: is to if
So the take away is if I need to plough a field with a bike, we need an animal called 'Kevin' and a very special gearing combo.
I can't watch this with the dog always being so close to the bike about to fall over 😂
Do this with a stretched tricycle. That'd be cool!
"So it's really clear to me now why nobody sells bikes like this"
Some learn by reading, some by watching and some people just have to pee on the electric fence themselves.
2:54 true 😂😂
I used to watch you a couple years ago when I was really into mountain biking, recently wanted to get back on the trails to get healthy and tried to find your channel again but I couldn’t! Low and behold, you show up on my recommended the next day!! Glad to find ya!
6:15 star of the video right there.
I’d pay so much to know what was going through his head as he stared slack-jawed
Bro y’all need training wheels just to stay up
Add a flywheel to spool up while you pedal! Will be easier to balance!
I think you should revisit this in te future and make a 10' lowrider tricycle capable of towing anything
With this bike and those gears, you could swap places to where the large cog is on the front and the small cog is on the rear, then you have a super fast bicycle although it would be hard to peddle to get going
6:48 That’s ridiculous, animals can’t ride bikes!
I think a pedal-powered towing device would be pretty neat. I mean, even if it took like 20 minutes to pull a car from a ditch, that's faster than a tow truck would get there.
😂 lowkey fell off my chair when Kevin got in the kids trailer in slow-mo with epic music and helmet and all.
also I don't think the Wrangler weights close to 3 tons
If you want to tow something effectively...
1. You're gonna need to maintain a low center of gravity.
2. Fat wheels should help you with traction.
3. Shorter crank arms should let you pedal a little faster.
4. You want a more rigid towing brace that connects to your bike across multiple points along the frame, and not just the back wheel. This should help a lot with preventing undesired wheelies.
5. Making the bike a little heavier might help with towing heavy loads, because of newtonian mechanics.
6. You are going to want a longer wheelbase, man.
7. You need more power. A lot more. Think either Tandem, E-Bike, or both.
8. You're gonna want multiple speeds on that thing. That way you can actually go places when you're not towing anything. I strongly recommend an internal gear hub if you're gonna do towing.
9. If you do turn it into an e-Bike, use two motors; one on the bottom bracket, and one on the front wheel. This would turn it into a 2WD machine, but with the weight being a little further forward. The motors would help a lot when you actually want to go at a decent speed, while the super low gear would get you going in the first place. (You may want to use traction control as well( I expect a lot of wheel spin.)
10. Larger diameter wheels and/or some kind of front suspension may help a lot when you go over bumps.
11. If you aren't using a derailleur, then a belt might not be a bad idea if you expect it to be under high load often.
12. Ghost Rings might be a viable way to maintain tension.
I initially thought that the engagement on the cranks would be absolute garbage, the I realized the amount of pressure between engagement and waiting for it to engage would be negligible.