Have His Carcase (Christopher Hodson) - Episode Two
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Have his carcase - the second Book of D.L.Sayers featuring Lord Peter Wimsey together with Harriet Vane - perfectly played by Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter. It's a four part miniseries and although it has been some time since I read the book, I think they have adapted it wonderfully. The chemistry between the ever wooing Lord Peter and the always defensive Harriet comes across beautifully.
Plot summary: Harriet stumbles across a body on the beach and notifies the police and the press. As soon as Lord Peter hears about it he comes after her to help her and the police solving the case.
A Dorothy L. Sayers Mystery - three miniseries produced by the BBC in 1987 and based on the best-selling novels: Strong Poison, Have His Carcase and Gaudy Night.
Director: Christopher Hodson
Lord Peter Wimsey is a fictional character in a series of detective novels and short stories by Dorothy Leigh Sayers. A bon vivant who solves mysteries for his own amusement, Wimsey is an archetype for the British gentleman detective.
I love the character dynamics between Lord Peter and Harriet. What an adorable couple! And well-cast actors, too!
I can never have enough of Dorothy L. Sayers and Lord Peter's wooing of Harriet Vane...as well as the puzzle of a case...who could ask for anything more on a gloomy and rainy day?
Or on any other day 🥰
Look up the Lord Peter Whimsey and Harriet Vane mysteries. By Dorothy L Sayers and Jill Patton Walsh. It's the pair later in life. Love all the books
I would have liked them to have also done Busman’s Honeymoon. It would have made the series complete.
Today, May 2023, that's why I'm here. The rain.
@@patriciajrs46it’s any rainy dark day for me. Watched this on PBS decades ago. Been in love with lord Peter ever since. This Harriet is spot on.
Excellent period drama. Beautifully told story.
These are very addictive; I started with Strong Poison and kept watching. Dammit I'm hooked!
Lord Peter is adorable when he proposes.
True, I feel so bad for him when he's rejected
Lord Peter "Will you marry me?"
Harriet "Certainly not its twenty five to nine" - priceless
Almost as good as the
"Is it about sex?"
"No, it is about ten thirty."
reply in _Murder on the Orient Express_ ...
Funnily enough, they were right about the horseshoe! Really good that they showed the right sort of shoe as front shoes are wider than hind shoes with horses. Also actors were familiar and comfortable with horses.
Dear Clandestein, thank you for making the episosdes so easily accessible.
I absolutely love the theme music for these three series.
Harriet Walter is brilliant as Harriet Vane...she portrays brilliantly the initial prickliness of the character as well as the internal warmth...
I agree that the acting and the casting were brilliant. Only one thing, though, Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge have such a similarity to their faces and facial expression that one could almost believe the were brother and sister. It's probably cultural, a set of expressions that are popular among the educated classes in Britain or something like that. There is a similar similarity between the husband and wife characters in the movie Fargo, that is, the devious yet unsuccessful car salesman and his hapless, kidnapped wife, have, again, such similar faces that they could almost be brother and sister...but it's really only that, as actors, they are both copying really well the local speech patterns and facial expressions of a certain set in Minneapolis, Minnesota, that are so distinctive as to seem almost genetic to someone from far away. ( She fibbed.) The acting really is wonderful. And the casting is wonderful if we just assume the characters might be first cousins, who are perfectly well allowed to fall in love and marry, just not half-sibs.
I totally love her character! Gaudy Night is my favorite of these stories.
@@alindley3128 The 1920s have a lot to answer for when it comes to FEMININITY, because the fashion of the day - short hair and "no curves clothes" - basically eliminated that difference between man and woman. This makes it easy to feel that people are "similar" ... and it also made women uglier than they could be.
I love watching these. They are well done. Thank you for sharing them all.
Undoubtedly the best interpretation of the novels ever done for the screen. Edward Petherbridge is the quintessential Lord Peter Whimsey. I personally like the more serious L P W to the pleasure loving and flippant Ian Carmichael version. The simmering sexual tension betwixt Harriet and Lord Peter is palpable. All the actors including those in minor roles are very good.
I also prefer Edward Petherbridge to Ian Carmichael. Petherbridge was romantic and serious in the role. Carmichael was too comical. Though whether this difference was due to the actors or director or whom, I couldn't say.
Disagree and Carmichael was not always flippant, Petherbridge fiddles with the props too much, especially the monocle, it is irritating and you end up watching that rather than staying with the story.
Agreed- Petherbridge is perfect in the role
Simmering sexual tension you say? He sounds just like Joe Lycett. Good adaptation, though.
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 I agree about the sexual tension thing. It’s subtle but it’s definitely there.
A most satisfying dramatization. Bringing the period to life actually makes the story better.
Besides the wonderful leads, the supporting actors are great in this, too. The dancers, Mr. Bright, Salcombe Hardy are all much as I pictured them being when I read the book.
Dorothy L. Sayers must have been a amazing genius!
She was a scholar of some eminence. Her translation of Dante is used by many universities to teach the work, and beautifully carries out the terza rima rhyme scheme of the original Italian.
RIchard Morant is superb as Bunter.
The English portrayal of their fictional historical characters is done with such a level of perfection that it is almost frightening
They are based upon real life characters or stereotypical characters ... and all you need to do is observe them and record these characteristics "precisely". One of the advantages of english language is that it is full of double-meaning and colourful descriptors.
Tells you something rather worrying about our national character, I fear....
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 YOU might 'fear'.
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Indeed I do 🤨
I was lucky enough to see Edward Petherbridge on stage in Busman’s Honeymoon an year or two after the TV series was shown. Harriet Vane was played by his wife, Emily Richard.
Ed P used to do tours of London as a guide, I wish Id made the effort to go on one
I like the voice of Lord Peter ♡
"Oh, I think I shall manage to keep my head out of the noose," says Peter, sure that Weldon won't!
Of the three Petherbridge/Walter LPW miniseries, I like this one best. Thanks for uploading.
Totally droll. Highly recommended. Thanks for your work from Michigan USA!
Thank you for uploading! I saw a charming interview with Edward Petherbridge talking about playing Lord Peter, worrying that he was too old. I think he was the best, caught the character exactly.
Yes, in fact I thought he was younger than Ian Carmichael in the role, which makes their romance all the more believable.
Amazing episode
Lovely scenery first rate acting thank you.!
@27:00 Who else got lost in the armosphere and view and couldn’t hear them talking anymore? 😅
I filled my lungs with air hoping to catch some freshness of that air they breathed. 😌 Back to my raisins. 🖐🏻
This is such a tragic story... more so than the others... maybe I find it so touching because I am a middle aged woman...
Edward Petherbridge b.1936. Still very active.
His acting is brilliant.
Acting is about the young. I love and enjoy Edward Petherbridge bring up character Lord Peter the way Dorothy Saylar would love to see. thank you.
Mary Danoff Her name is Dorothy L Sayers.
not its not.....drama happens all ones life and why shouldnt acting be about life which is all ages. a narrow comment..also unfair for women who get kicked off at aroun 50 as actresses....ageist comment
Thank you for uploading. One of my favorite programs from the late 1980s. Petherbridge was the best, perfect Wimsey. The older Ian Carmichael does not stand up to Petherbridge. I only wish they had done some of the other stories, or even finished with Busman's Honeymoon with Harriet. Harriet Walter is also very good as Vane. Good chemistry between these actors. I cannot choose a favorite, since all three miniseries were terrific!
I wish they'd finished off with Busman's Honeymoon too, can't think why they didn't. It would have rounded off the series perfectly and it is after all part of the Peter-Harriet romance. However I do wish they wouldn't have the brief résumé at the beginning of each part. Gets a bit boring.
I think there were copyright issues. I remember hearing that when these were broadcast on PBS. And as for the recap -- remember that most people didn't tape things and couldn't watch "on demand" when these were televised in the 80s. A lot of times, you had to wait a week to see what happened next -- hence the recap.
It’s interesting that Ian Carmichael acted in the stories that didn’t include Harriet Vane, and Edward Petherbridge did the ones that were all about her - a perfect sharing of the books. I thought they were both good, but EP was perfect as Lord Peter especially in the romantic role, and exactly as I pictured him when I read the books growing up, as was Harriet Walter.
I don’t agree.
@@jbloveday9538 Well, Ian was a really nice man, but hardly the ideal actor to portray a romantic interest.
"Will you marry me?"
"Certainly not, it's twenty-five to nine!" 😂
Yes, he was perfect! They all were!🇨🇦😍
Cherie or Doris the dancer at the hotel is Trudie Goodwin who played WPC Ackland on The Bill!
John Cater steals every scene! Wonderfully hilarious!
Ian Carmichael was an extremely good actor. I think he would have made a great job of portraying Lord Peter in the Harriet years: he did so in audiobooks. Having said that, Edward Petherbridge is very watchable!
I like both actors a lot. Sometimes I object to the adaptations of the books, but not because of the acting. Love watching these 😊
Ian Carmichael was good but too jokey , not sexy . I rather fancy Edward Petherbridge .
These are so wonderful to watch in the late evening with a pot of tea and a cozy comforter!!! Thanks! Btw.. Harriet Walter appears as a prison psychologist in an “Inspector Morse” episode and also a a head mistress of a girls school in an episode of Agatha Christies “Hercule Poirot”....
Granny Earth Also in an episode of Midsomer Murders.
Her Uncle, Christopher Lee, played Count Dooku in Episodes II and III of Star Wars(and also as Saruman the White in LOTR, among other things). She had a cameo in Star Wars Episode VII, and the guy who played Henry Weldon was briefly in one of the original Star Wars movies as a pilot.
She was the terrible sister in law in the film Sense and Sensibility. Much more sympathetic here.
Harriet Walter does indeed play Honoria Bulstrode, the headmistress in the Agatha Christie's Poirot episode 'Cat among the pigeons'. I've seen it several times, but I didn't connect Harriet as Honoria Bulstrode with Harriet as Harriet Vane. Must watch it again!
Really enjoying this. 😊
Hehe! We all need a Mr. Bunter! You never know when you need a tidal guide :)
Will u marry me?
Certainly not, its twenty five to nine...
Love it
Outstanding.
Sutch a great channel so classical I love the perfect English so mutch i'am an american. 🎭🎥
Thank you.
Well done !
Wish we all could have find our Peter.
I so agree. Every one should have a Peter in their lives.♥️
This is one of the problems with women ... they THINK they will find "a Lord Peter" ... and are then dissatisfied with "Joe Average". Disney and their propaganda are to blame for this quite a bit (they only ever have girls be "princesses" while boys get to be "the joke"), but a large part is the general "women cant be bad" attitude of society, which lets them get away with "murder" many times (like all the false #metoo accusations) without any consequences.
One of the online partner-search sites asked their female clients to rate pictures of men ... and the women judged 80% of them to be "below average" ... while the men judging women had a rather "average average" in comparison. Maybe teach your daughters to NOT EXPECT GETTING A PRINCE? It is women who are responsible for education of children after all ... even with feminism and equality.
@@Muck006 It's not a bad thing to look for someone who is courteous, intelligent, kind, and charming. Yes it's nice that he's rich but we'd still fall for him even if he wasn't.
@@Muck006 I’ve seen quite a lot of your posts on here and it’s really sad that you have to write disparaging comments about women in general. I hope that you manage to find someone who finds a way to overlook your bitterness and makes you happy. We all deserve that.
I love the music that they were dancing to. Does anyone know the names of the songs they were playing? I think one was 'Crazy Rhythm'. These shows are so entertaining!!
when you and I were seventeen, the blue room, La Paloma were some of them
When you and I were 17 with Mia farrow and Robert Redford from the Great Gatsby was beautiful and the film a must.
At the 16 minute mark, I think it's The Right Somebody To Love.
At 17:30, after the blonde dancer says something to Harriet in French, Peter asks, "What did that blighter say?" This is completely at odds with the books, which bothers me since they do such a good job of reflecting the books in almost every way. Canonically, Peter was so fluent in French that he didn't have a foreign accent, and people would mistake him for a native.
Actually, that is how it is in the books - Chapter 12. In the book, Harriet is flushed after Antoine says his bit, and Peter asks "What did that blighter say?" I do agree that they do, for the most part, an excellent job in reflecting the books.
@@markseib4173 Interesting! I wonder why Sayers would have Peter ask when he certainly would have understood. I assumed it was poor writing by the scriptwriters but it must have been different motives by the author herself
@@laurawilliams4163 I think the context in the book is that Peter knew something was said because Harriet blushed, but he may just not have actually heard the original remark. I never really thought about it, but ya got me pulling out my copy of the book! I guess I know what I'm going to read tonight!
@@markseib4173 you can never have too much Sayers in my opinion 😂
@@laurawilliams4163Two possible interpretations: (1) he didn't hear what the Frenchman said, and (2) he understood perfectly well, but asked her anyway what was said in order to probe her.
So splendid!
Excellent series. ❤
This has the ol brain ticking.. I thought it was her son worried about her money,, but he isn't light haired. Maybe I should not say more.. how about the hitchhiker? Cannot wait for the finale..
The thing that has always bothered me about Mrs. Weldon is her appalling self-centeredness.
@@bertrandlechat4330 She's a type -- a silly romantic woman. But essentially a nice one, lonely, not unkind. Looking for love in middle age.
Excellent!
I don't know the story, but if it turns out to be the case that Jeremy Sinden's character is the murderer, they made it far too obvious by disguising him as the camper in the first episode. Very distinctive voice, easily recognisable.
In the film, the dancer said something in french to Harriet and Lord Peter on the dance floor. Peter asks what he said. But that is not possible since Peter speaks french in the previous novel during her trial.
In the novels Peter apparently speaks fluent French. So he must have understood what Antoine actually said, but probably didn't understand the significance of the remark.
@@mfjdv2020 In the book, he asks because he did not hear what Antoine said, he just caught him saying something...
I must say she fitted and astounding amount of clothes into that little hiking pack - lucky she packed them for her stay in the hotel after the murder!
Ha ha! I have a thing for backpacks and I just choked on my dinner laughing at your remark!
Especially a wine colored frock
@@lyndatuttle: Harriet mentioned to Lord Peter that she was going to buy the evening frock as well as the outfit (including the big hat) for the tea outing with Martin & his mother. But it *is* rather hard to imagine there was a shop in that dinky town that would suit the fashionable Harriet Vane. 🤷🏼♂😉
@@ginawiggles918 It was a fashionable "watering place," so likely had a number of shops to cater to the hotel clientele/
By today’s standards Peter would be considered a stalker and prosecuted as such. A lot has changed in 100 years.
Why on earth didnt Harriet realise that the camper and the son were one and the same ? . I knew as soon as i saw the son ! Disguise was a bit thin ! K
She does in the book
@Millie Wood Yes , much as I like Ian , I do like Edward very much in this role . The diffidence is charming. K
@Millie Wood You're absolutely right about Ian Carmichael.
@@katharinedavis4947 well spotted! Unfortunately I read the book before watching this episode, so the resemblance in this video obviously wasn't apparent in the book.
@@lolaisabelcastro3310 only when she sees the tattoo on Henry Weldon's arm...
Love the music
16 thumbs down, what for?
The guy at 47:26 to 47:47 is just like me every time Utube asks me which 4 banks I've seen advertised.
Did the man who plays Bright ever play Uriah Heep?
He certainly looks the part.
Colin Higgins. He was also in Agatha Christie's The Body in the Library (Joan Hickson version) and I'm sure he was in a Poirot with David Suchet.
@@decodolly1535 Thank you! :)
He played one of Jeremy Irons' Oxford friends in Brideshead Revisited
@@decodolly1535 He was in Problem at Sea in the Poirot series. Well remembered.
45:15, this character actress played the mother of Nero in the series "I, Claudius"
Henry is played by the late Jeremy Sinden son of Donald, both good actors.
26:48: In the book Peter calls Harriet an appalling little cockney while they're having their little chat about horses :-)))
17:31 Lord Peter wouldn’t need any help with the French language. His mother’s family was French Canadian (Delagardie) and he was very close to his uncle that lived in Paris…
Not French Canadian.. just an English family of French extraction who lived in Hampshire. However he did speak Fluent French and alos German and Italian
@@glen7318 corrected! 😉
The music must be played by Victor Sylvester Orchestra - strict tempo and suave.
Lovely tight arrangement of Crazy Rhythm.
Harriet Walter reminds me of Keira Knightley.
Her voice especially
🥰🧐🌹”Will you marry me?”
🥰🧐🥀”Certainly, not.”
The actual expression is 'Certainly not' without the comma :-) It means 'I have no intention whatsoever of ...' (whatever it is).
@@mfjdv2020😳🤨😘🥰
The son is supposed to be a "farmer" (although a somewhat wealthier one) and the search for the razor is MUCH more complicated.
Muck006 ii
The red-headed dancer is the gal from The Bill
Mr Bright sounds like Julian Clary!
Please note that this was written in 1932 and not the 40's as women had only got the complete rights to vote at the age of 21 and over in 1928, (It was 30 in 1918) and the Great Depression had just started in 1929. Very few women got to University and LPW had more empathy than most men of the time. Life was getting more difficult and nothing like today. It all started to change after WW2 not WW1. Don't apply today to then as nothing like.
Ah-huh!! *now* I know how a stile might look. I know there’s a lot of them around England, and I’ve read a few descriptions, but I’ve never quite been able to visualise one.
(Australian)
I’m surprised, in NZ stiles are fairly common.
@@riverAmazonNZI was thinking the same thing ( Kiwi here also ) . City dweller perhaps ?
This reluctant girl that won't marry Lord Peter, she is more concerned about her career and
at book writing. Well she got herself caught up in another murder. She calls the local police she calls the London newspaper, and Wham-O we have Lord Peter. Well my opinion I think they make a great Duo, but it was quite funny when Peter was pointing out all the personal things out - specifically ? at the local police station Lord Peter pretty much made the head Sergeant look like an idiot. And it's quite clear the head Sergeant is not too happy about that him being there and his soon-to-be fiance involved to crack another casein the case.
[ that I say that had Sergeant was trying to hide something ]
but I guess we will just have to wait and se
WELL HERE'S A FEW THEORY'S THAT THE DOU WILL PROBEBLY ARGUE OVER
and basically not really care what the surgeon has to say
--- I doubt very highly any of the locals were involved in his murder
--- so who is the person that killed that Russian professional dancer
and it all has to do with the millions of dollars the woman has,
they knocked off the Russian dancer because it's perfectly clear
that the individual - murderer Fancy' her money more that the woman.
Well I done enough talking I just had to stop and I had some thoughts and I wanted to put down and share with everybody. Let's get back to this great old masterpiece !
[ And a grad thank you to the individual that uploaded this for all of us to enjoy !! ]
Harriet Vane was not egocentric and thinking only of herself and her writing. She was refusing Lord Peter's advances to protect him! She had a very low self confidence and thought that she wasn't good enough for him.
As for the real murderer - I shan't spoil the ending.
@The 1940s etc etc: Harriet is hardly a girl. In this episode she's about 30. Definitely a woman!
The unrequited love for a woman is very painful
Does Doris start sounding like Mrs Faulty? Not the same actress, just the voice.
Does anybody know who played the music to which they dance?
20:17, Lord Peter & Harriet examine the place of murder.
The full beard would very much need a razor to keep it manicured with distinction
I still agree with my comment from a year ago.
I believe that further adventures of Lord Peter and Harriet Vane were contemplated but the untimely death of the actor who plays Bunter forced a cancellation of those projects.
I don't think so - Richard Morant died in 2011, 24 years after these stories were filmed.
Very nice, but I just dislike those ridiculous haircuts of the female characters. Times sometimes display such funny fashion fads!
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Do they ever get married?
Doug Williams Yes!
Yes , in Busman
‘s Honeymoon..
And they have three little boys ♥️
@@someonerandom256 Really! I didn't know that. How lovely!
Voi le (îi) "frecati" atât timp cât sunt vii , printre voi , de rest ne ocupam noi .
Depressed gay hairdresser...😂⤵️
Sounds like that Little Britain sketch with Dafydd Thomas!
Trudie Sargent ackland Carver ,
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This is an excellent production, though i do prefer Ian Carmichaels' portrayal.
En castellano y hablado 😡🇨🇱
Thank you.