One of Easy Cure's 1977 demos is "I Want to Be Old." Today, in 2024's "Endsong," with a voice younger than ever, Robert wonders, "I'm outside in the dark wondering how I got so old." The circle is starting to close. What I am deeply grateful for is that we have accompanied each other throughout the entire journey.
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LOL. I had this on vinyl 30 years ago... the exact same 7". Does that make me even more sacred? Hell, I want to be old ended up on TIB deluxe edition... Along with I'm Cold, which isn't on here.
Bro what sacred circle, almost all Cure videos have 100m+ views on their official channel, anyone with free time and internet access can find this demo, this video is at almost 100k views.
It is most certainly a young Smith. Well before the hairspray. He's probably still in his teens. Everyone's voice changes ... this is punk rock, recorded raw.
@@MB-vk8cvIt’s very clearly a very young Bob. He was 18 when they recorded this, still just a kid. His voice got a bit deeper by the time of The Cure that everyone’s familiar with.
So different when they were young & had a different style- Punky. I'd have loved this when I was their age if only we had this in the US in 1977 & 78. I like the newer finished version of Meathook. It always sounds like "me talk". They have come a long way since then, and everyone has to start somewhere. They are so versatile, which makes them interesting & never boring. Robert is a True Musical Genius besides being a Gorgeous Babe.The Sex Appeal Is Off The Charts, Even Though He Is Totally Covered & Buttoned Up To His Neck ! He Definitely Has Charisma! The Dark Goth is just as good as the Pop Dance Tunes & the Love Songs are Spectacular as well as the Sarcastic Songs. And any Do Do Do Do Song Robert Sings is Great Too, Fast or Slower- It Doesn't Matter- I Love It All. Really miss hearing Grinding Halt, Accuracy & those from that album. Hey You, Mr. Pink Eyes, Throw Your Foot. Wish they played those more.❤😊
@@SavBear-025 Thanks so much. I have been listening to random songs from your list & while I like the Finished & Most Remastered Versions best, esp. Throw Your Foot, so far, those early versions are still interesting bc you can see how far Robert's Composing has improved along the way. I love his versatality. He must never be board with all the different styles he does. He is Definitely a Musical Genius & To Me The Most Sweet, Cutest, Humble, Honest, Beautiful Inside & Out, & Sexiext Musicial Genius In The World ! And I Think The Cure Is The Cutiest & Sexiest & Best Band In The World, No Matter Who They Ever Had As Band Members ! I don't like all of their songs, but I Do like all of their styles & some of each one. I am also finding new songs to love, that either I haven't heard before or only heard some early versions or other versions of. Their Music is Truely Timeless. Been actively listening to The Cure since about 93/94 right after Discintegration was released, & found out their earlier stuff was out way before I thought or before I ever knew who they were. I'm 60 now, 1 yr.younger than Robert & still like a Big Kid (Pisces). I look about 40- 45 & am Young At Heart. We get younger as we get older & can have a more open mind on some things, so that helps. I still dance & sing to Everything I love for Music & even play air guitar, drums & piano, etc.🤣 I love Jazz & all kinds of music & love to try new kinds & try new things. I can get down to Zydeco as well as Funk, Rock, Southern Rock, Disco, & Altternative, Blues, R&B, Easy Listening, Soft Rock & Everything in between. I like Native American & New Age too.I hate Opra, unless actually there, & Techno. Never stop learng or trying new things. You'll Be Surprised at What You'll Find. Once at the library I saw a Cool Jazz Cat on an album cover on cd & it was The Rippingtons-So I checked it out & gave it a whirl. I totally fell in love ! From then on- I started looking up more from them. Same w/ The Cure. There is A Whole World Out There. Don't Limit Yourself. Enjoy It While You Can.❤😃
Karen Howard wow thanks for giving the playlist a listen it took me a while to make! It is always fascinating to se show The Cures style has changed and grown though their years of music. You’re love for all kinds of music and the cure is beautiful!! And yes ma’am I will not limit myself as well! I’m only a teen but I hope to be the same as you, always young at heart! I feel like I’m 5 years old and I plan to stay that way🤣 and this may sound creepy since I’m a kid but I also think that Robert Smith is very handsome and lovely!! You sound like such a lovely person! I hope you continue to be your wonderful self and thank for sharing your insight on the cure and just life in general!♥️
There were bands in the U.S. in the ‘77-‘78 era playing this style of music. They just weren’t getting booked at the regular venues that booked rock bands back then. You had to check out the underground. Most of the big cities in America back then, as well as many of the smaller college towns had punk clubs during that early period that regularly hosted bands like this. Maybe not *EXACTLY* like Easy Cure (there was a lot more diversity in punk back in those days), but definitely on the same wavelength.
sEE tHE cHILDren - eASy cURe - 1st dEMo - 1977 (La la la la la la la...) I stopped the car the other day I had to ask a little girl the way I thought she'd show me better if she got inside And once inside I thought I'd take her for a little ride... So I see the children feel the children see the children feel the children all the time... See the children feel the children see the children feel the children all the time... I'm a supermarket Santa underneath the Christmas tree The little ones all like to come and sit upon my knee I have to hold them tightly 'cause they fall to the floor A little concern ain't against the law... So I see the children feel the children see the children feel the children all the time See the children (something something something??) all the time I pass by the infant school every single day I push sweeties through the fence but the kids just run away I only want to talk with them and join in their fun But all the little children do is run run run run run run run run... (La la la la la la, la la la la la la..etc..) See the children Feel the children all the time.. See the children Feel the children See the children Feel the children All the time........ ~~~~~~~~ mEAThOOk I went into the butchers I said wanted wanted wanted some... Meat Pass me some of that steak over there It looks so... Sweet I lost my heart to a meat hook! That butcher man was some... Lady He really stole my heart He hung me up on his meat hook A real piece of... Slaughterhouse art I lost my heart to a meat hook! There's a meat hook in my heart Tearing me all apart Ripping out my insides But I just can't get away I can't leave my Meat hook ~~~~~~~~ i wANt tO bE oLD I want to be old And creek by the fire I want to smell of rotting wood It's all I desire I want my joints to seize up I want my legs to ache I want my eyesight to fail I want my skin to flake To be old I want to be old I want false teeth And not be able to chew I want to be senile A centigenarian fool I want lots of wrinkles Want my hearing to go I want to be ignored And I want to be slow To be old I want to be old ~~~~~~~~ lISTeN didn't find the lyrics for this one... Anyone there who can catch them on line? Sorry, can't get all of them, English is not my mother language ~~~~~~~~ i jUSt nEEd mYSElf I know that I don't love you but I tell you that I do But I only buy you flowers if I want anything from you You say that if you'll leave me it will put me on a shelf But I don't need you girl I just need myself. I just need myself You trust in all my lies you believe me when I say that I'll be with you forever so you let me have my way I say "stay with me baby" and I'll lavish you with wealth but I'll make it that I leave you 'cause I just need myself. I know that I don't love you but I tell you that I do But I only buy you flowers if I want anything from you You think that if you'll leave me it will put me on a shelf But I don't need you girl I just need myself. I just need myself (3x) I just need. ~~~~~~~~
I recall Robert saying something along the lines that he wanted the band to be a “punk rock Beatles”. And yeah, you can hear it. That and some Elvis Costello vibes.
really? never heard Elvis rock out like this...i consider this as good, unique and important as any phase of their evolution. clearly influenced by the punk scene
Aside from being from the same timeframe, I hear absolutely *ZERO* Elvis Costello similarities. Less than zero even (see what I did there? 🤪). A driving 4/4 beat maybe? Nah. The only contemporaries Elvis C had in those early days were similar troubadours like Nick Lowe and Joe Jackson. This Easy Cure demo is more in line with the upstart punk bands of that era (too many to list). A bit of Hendrix influence too, which would stand to reason as both Bob and Lol were huge Jimi fans.
they were just kids....trying to be exploited by Hansa, but even at this very early age Robert knew he was going to take over and become one of the most influential bands of their time.
No, he freaked out a bit when they started getting popular. I saw an interview where he said he intentionally tried to sing as badly as possible for 2 o3 albums to not get more famous, but they still kept getting more popular.
not sure of the Hansa story, but no doubt they were a unique sounding punk band (especially live, and evolved on subsequent albums. what albums did he intentionally sing bad on? i havent heard those...
Hendrix was probably their biggest influence. I think the Stooges thing probably comes from the fact that they were being swept up in the then-current punk explosion, and pretty much every punk band in existence at that time cited the Stooges as an influence.
I never got into these guys till i was 45! Kinda glad I waited. Im thrash and death metal all the way but now I have a whole new outlook!! Great band reminds me of the Cars
Yeah I just got into them too and I'm 32. I've always known about them but never really took a deep dive until recently and I'm hooked. One might even say obsessed lol. Better late than never. 🖤
Aside from the obvious punk style and energy, I just don’t hear it. The Undertones were much poppier, and Feargal’s one of a kind vocals are so different from this.
Lol was fantastic on the drums. Maybe limited in his abilities but he definitely was no slouch. As for his keyboarding, i think even he admitted it wasn't good.
@@karenhoward2983 thats all mimed. He played xylophone in Japanese Whispers. What I didn't like about his book is that he never talked about how much he contributed to the music.
In the late nineties or early 2000s I saw Lol when he was doing some kind of “music of the cure” tour in small clubs. It was literally him just spinning all of the remixes from mixed up for about an hour. For the first half hour, it was to an empty dance floor. Everyone seemed confused. I got up and danced because it already felt awkward. I could’ve just left, but I paid money and got my money’s worth. It was kind of surreal looking at a stoic lol tolhurst just standing there while dancing to the longest remix of “let’s go to bed” I’ve ever heard.
Lol was definitely very limited in his proficiency as a drummer, but he had this trademark style that I’ve never really ever heard any other drummers come close to. Especially his fills. I also thought he pulled a great Budgie on Pornography. Really nailed that whole tribal thing. He played drums with a lot of heart, even if he was no Ginger Baker. It worked beautifully for what they were going for in the early 80’s. I couldn’t imagine any other drummer playing on those first 4 albums.
@@Idolhands7007That’s both a bit sad and bizarre. Sad in that someone of his legendary background would be spinning records to an empty dance floor (aside from yourself of course). Bizarre in that he would literally do a club tour just to spin The Cure’s remix album. I’m guessing there also must’ve been some kind of “meet ‘n greet”? I’ve always heard Lol is a very down to earth, easygoing guy who enjoys meeting and talking to fans. A couple of years ago he was doing a podcast with Budgie from the Banshees that was pretty interesting.
Surprisingly sounds well recorded for a Demo. Listening in a studio on some big ass Genelecs lol. Lots of early Demos of bands tend to have a muddled sound but vocals are placed spot on along with the instruments.
In the '70s most demos were recorded in professional studios. Musicians would sell their cars or do whatever to have the money to record their demo when they were ready. It wasn't until the '80s that people started recording demos on little 4-track TASCAM machines and we got that sound that we associate with homemade demos.
They are still the same people. There is only so much creativity one can have and the best usually is when one is young and enthusiastic. We are lucky they went on to have a career, otherwise we would not have heard this. Nothing wrong with people making a living
This is great for what it is, but I still think that the whole ‘80-‘82 period (17 Seconds, Faith, Pornography) was their peak era. They were still just kids here. Enthusiastic as you said, but still trying to develop their own style and not quite focused yet. This is definitely a great little time capsule, but it doesn’t even come close to moving me the way their early 80’s stuff does.
Well yeah, up until this point they had been playing in a hard rock/heavy metal style while they were calling themselves Malice (a metal band name if I’ve ever heard one). When they changed their name to Easy Cure, they were also changing their sound… to a more stripped down, raw, and punk-influenced style. Even so, they still had a little residual metal leftover in the mix.
The Cure as a punk band that transcended into a new wave band (with a dark wave/gothic edge), and sadly turning into a cliche alternative rock band of the latter 80's onto the present. Their early punk roots is pretty tight....
If you think that songs like Snakepit, If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, Catch, Lullaby etc are “cliche alternative rock,” you don’t know what you’re talking about. Robert remained a singularly brilliant songwriter throughout the 80s, the inevitable decline happened in the 1990s.
Nostalgic Storm Waver guess what, you can be wrong about something, as I believe he’s about the Cure’s output from the late 80s, and still be a highly intelligent person. Disagreements happen, it’s not an excuse to be gratuitously rude to people you know nothing about.
Well they were definitely into the glam stuff from a few years earlier, but I don’t really hear it at all in this. I do however hear (and feel) the punk rawness and energy on these recordings, albeit with a slight bit of early metal/hard rock overtones (which was the style they had previously been playing just before this, when they were called Malice). I’m not doubting that stuff like Bolan, Bowie, etc was an influence, in fact I know it was (Bowie at least)… but I really don’t hear that in these recordings.
No argument here. It's not my jam either. I do give him some benefit of the doubt that much like killing an Arab, where he places himself first person in a Camus novel, its just a first person cynical narrative of something he also finds creepy. Seems like he had the good taste to forget about it and never bring this creepy little ditty up again.
It was written to open peoples eyes to the fact that child predators existed. It was a blind era , blind to pedophiles in authority, blind to the neighbourhood pedo, the scout leader...the priest... As John Lydon said, they knew what Jimmy Saville was up to, but nobody cared, nobody listened. This was an age where ALL adults were to be believed as truthful, respected without question and definately their actions go on without judgement.
Really, anyone could listen to this and hear or compare it to any number of early UK punk bands. They were turning on to that scene at the time they recorded this, so of course that’s going to come shining through. Throughout this comment section I’ve seen people comparing this to Buzzcocks, Wire, Undertones, Stooges, and even the NWOBHM (which is crazy, but whatever). Might as well add Stranglers to the mix.
@@Shikta-poobah67THIS DEMO RECORD WAS A ROBERT 'S BEGINS PROMOTION OVER THE PUNK, SO POPULAR I THAT TIMES. HE VERY SOLID DONE THE JOB. BELIVE ME, I TALK ABOUT BAND THE STRANGLERS IN ONLY ONE MOUMENT IN BALANCE.. ON EACH OF 2 POLES STAY THESE DEMO EP BY THE CURE. ON OTHER SIDE IS THE STRANGLERS' S NICELY THE FIRST LP VYNIL. BOAT STAY IN BALANCE SO I ' AM ASKING YOU : Do You may imagine scene where Robi Smith play and si g " Hangin' Around" of THE STRANGLERS "?? 😊Thanks God because one fact THESE PUNK DEMO CURE ' S TRY PERFORMANS WAS AN BLIND STREET ❤ ADIEU
Yes, but he was called Porl back then. Michael Dempsey's on bass, Lol Tolhurst on the drums, and Robert Smith on guitar and vocals. This was recorded a month after Peter O'Toole left the band, so Robert had JUST become the singer.
É tal e qual escutar o Renato Russo antes de Legião Urbana, quando ele começou na banda ABORTO ELÉTRICO, a diferença da voz e o estilo da banda é isto!!!!
Eh, I dunno. Even though it was only like a year later, they had already evolved beyond this more aggro style and started getting significantly more melodic by the time they went in to record the first album. Three Imaginary Boys is a very accurate sonic snapshot of where they were at, musically speaking at that particular time. They were constantly evolving. This demo is very much a product of 1977.
@@alejandrocurado5134 Well let’s see. Lovecats is a literary reference, and Close To Me is about childhood fears and not being able to go to sleep because you’re scared of the bogeyman. See The Children is about being a child molester, so uh… yeah it could be significantly worse.
@@alejandrocurado5134 Well first of all, my initial comment, like the song itself, was tongue in cheek. Hence the usage of the little emoji thingies. You’re the one who took it somewhere weird by saying something as random as “it couldn’t be any worse than Lovecats or Close To Me… two songs that I’ve never once heard anybody say were creepy or sick. And then you say “who cares what (the songs) are about?”. Well, to answer your question… Oh I dunno, maybe… victims of child molesters? I mean, just a guess. 🤷♂️
New Wave is a part of pop/top 40. It was just begining to come out at that time. There was so many different kinds of music out late 70s & 80s ! Fashions matched the Music of those times.
In other words, a rather natural progression for a band that started out when they did but stuck around for the long haul. However, there was that little period from late ‘82 through to early ‘85, where Bob was experimenting with all sorts of different styles and sounds, trying to sort out which direction they were to go in. “The Top” by itself is a total mixed bag of different styles. It’s all over the map, musically. People like to label that one as “psychedelic” or whatever, and yes there are a few songs that fit the bill, but there’s a lot more going on with that album. It’s actually a bit of a mess, but interesting nonetheless. Japanese Whispers is another one that serves up a sample platter of different sounds, but in a whole different way.
I heard quite a bit of Bowie in their later (80’s) recordings, but not so much here. Maybe some extremely basic structures, but to me this mostly just sounds like the typical punk fare of the day.
Man, some of the shit I see people trying to compare this to is killin’ me here. This has apparently confused a *LOT* of people. Me personally? I think it sounds like a much more raw and aggressive version of the early (first album era) Cure. Call me crazy. 🤷♂️
“Funny”? No. It makes perfect sense to me. First you get angry, then the anger subsides and the depression sets in. A natural progression. It’s reflected in the music.
@@politicallyincorrect5802If it weren’t for one album of theirs, I’d agree with you. However, Pornography is one of the darkest and most morbid albums ever made by any band. It’s even darker in my opinion than “Closer” (Joy Division). Robert once famously stated (about Pornography) that he was either going to make that album or kill himself at the time. It was like performing an exorcism on yourself… and that’s definitely the vibe that comes through on it. Everything else they did? Not really what I’d call dark or morbid. Just moody.
One of Easy Cure's 1977 demos is "I Want to Be Old." Today, in 2024's "Endsong," with a voice younger than ever, Robert wonders, "I'm outside in the dark wondering how I got so old." The circle is starting to close. What I am deeply grateful for is that we have accompanied each other throughout the entire journey.
One of the most important youtube uploads around right now! if you discovered this by accident or by a posted invite...you are now in the sacred circle of Goth and Deathrock purist. Interpret wisely. That is now in your hands. one of the charished goldmines of RUclips!
LOL. I had this on vinyl 30 years ago... the exact same 7". Does that make me even more sacred? Hell, I want to be old ended up on TIB deluxe edition... Along with I'm Cold, which isn't on here.
They should have never changed it from easy cure
This has been released as “Pillbox Tales 1977-1979” on Vinyl if you want a copy!
Yes I Made it!!
Bro what sacred circle, almost all Cure videos have 100m+ views on their official channel, anyone with free time and internet access can find this demo, this video is at almost 100k views.
Heavy Buzzcocks vibe. Love it!
100%
I'm hearing quite a bit of Wire as well.
i was thinking the same thing!!!
It just sounds like ‘77 punk, is all… because that’s exactly what this is.
00:00 See The Childrens
03:11 Meathook
05:36 I Want To Be Old
08:10 Listen
10:37 I Just Need Myself
This is pure gold and punk history
Robert's voice was still maturing in these years!
Robert isn't singing on this récord.
@@gonza4922 You are wrong, it is Robert Smith voice.
@@gonza4922 is it Peter O’Toole? Cause it honestly sounds like a different person.
It is most certainly a young Smith. Well before the hairspray. He's probably still in his teens. Everyone's voice changes ... this is punk rock, recorded raw.
@@Icnlst
Here's Robert singing "Boys Don't Cry" on this May 1978 demo recording at Chestnut Studios:
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Robert = Genius. Easy Cure = terrific!! Smart guy...knowing that Hansa was trying to own them. And they got out of that trap.
Tell me more
Is this peter otoole singing or robert?
The Cure forever.
@@MB-vk8cvIt’s very clearly a very young Bob. He was 18 when they recorded this, still just a kid. His voice got a bit deeper by the time of The Cure that everyone’s familiar with.
a great and underrated band the cure, one of the first bands i ever liked
lol the cure are not underated but they are great
This is the Cure!!!! Sensational! Thank You!
So different when they were young & had a different style- Punky. I'd have loved this when I was their age if only we had this in the US in 1977 & 78. I like the newer finished version of Meathook. It always sounds like "me talk". They have come a long way since then, and everyone has to start somewhere. They are so versatile, which makes them interesting & never boring. Robert is a True Musical Genius besides being a Gorgeous Babe.The Sex Appeal Is Off The Charts, Even Though He Is Totally Covered & Buttoned Up To His Neck ! He Definitely Has Charisma! The Dark Goth is just as good as the Pop Dance Tunes & the Love Songs are Spectacular as well as the Sarcastic Songs. And any Do Do Do Do Song Robert Sings is Great Too, Fast or Slower- It Doesn't Matter- I Love It All. Really miss hearing Grinding Halt, Accuracy & those from that album. Hey You, Mr. Pink Eyes, Throw Your Foot. Wish they played those more.❤😊
@@SavBear-025 Thanks so much. I have been listening to random songs from your list & while I like the Finished & Most Remastered Versions best, esp. Throw Your Foot, so far, those early versions are still interesting bc you can see how far Robert's Composing has improved along the way. I love his versatality. He must never be board with all the different styles he does. He is Definitely a Musical Genius & To Me The Most Sweet, Cutest, Humble, Honest, Beautiful Inside & Out, & Sexiext Musicial Genius In The World ! And I Think The Cure Is The Cutiest & Sexiest & Best Band In The World, No Matter Who They Ever Had As Band Members ! I don't like all of their songs, but I Do like all of their styles & some of each one. I am also finding new songs to love, that either I haven't heard before or only heard some early versions or other versions of. Their Music is Truely Timeless. Been actively listening to The Cure since about 93/94 right after Discintegration was released, & found out their earlier stuff was out way before I thought or before I ever knew who they were. I'm 60 now, 1 yr.younger than Robert & still like a Big Kid (Pisces). I look about 40- 45 & am Young At Heart. We get younger as we get older & can have a more open mind on some things, so that helps. I still dance & sing to Everything I love for Music & even play air guitar, drums & piano, etc.🤣 I love Jazz & all kinds of music & love to try new kinds & try new things. I can get down to Zydeco as well as Funk, Rock, Southern Rock, Disco, & Altternative, Blues, R&B, Easy Listening, Soft Rock & Everything in between. I like Native American & New Age too.I hate Opra, unless actually there, & Techno. Never stop learng or trying new things. You'll Be Surprised at What You'll Find. Once at the library I saw a Cool Jazz Cat on an album cover on cd & it was The Rippingtons-So I checked it out & gave it a whirl. I totally fell in love ! From then on- I started looking up more from them. Same w/ The Cure. There is A Whole World Out There. Don't Limit Yourself. Enjoy It While You Can.❤😃
Karen Howard wow thanks for giving the playlist a listen it took me a while to make! It is always fascinating to se show The Cures style has changed and grown though their years of music. You’re love for all kinds of music and the cure is beautiful!! And yes ma’am I will not limit myself as well! I’m only a teen but I hope to be the same as you, always young at heart! I feel like I’m 5 years old and I plan to stay that way🤣 and this may sound creepy since I’m a kid but I also think that Robert Smith is very handsome and lovely!! You sound like such a lovely person! I hope you continue to be your wonderful self and thank for sharing your insight on the cure and just life in general!♥️
@@SavBear-025 You are very welcome Savanah
There were bands in the U.S. in the ‘77-‘78 era playing this style of music. They just weren’t getting booked at the regular venues that booked rock bands back then. You had to check out the underground. Most of the big cities in America back then, as well as many of the smaller college towns had punk clubs during that early period that regularly hosted bands like this. Maybe not *EXACTLY* like Easy Cure (there was a lot more diversity in punk back in those days), but definitely on the same wavelength.
77, 78, 79... fantastic years !!
The first couple of years in the early 80’s weren’t too bad either.
I saw them many times in and around Crawley!
So very lucky. I was in Copthorne but too young at the time.
sEE tHE cHILDren - eASy cURe - 1st dEMo - 1977
(La la la la la la la...)
I stopped the car
the other day
I had to ask a little
girl the way
I thought she'd show me
better if she got inside
And once inside
I thought I'd take her
for a little ride...
So I see the children
feel the children
see the children
feel the children
all the time...
See the children
feel the children
see the children
feel the children
all the time...
I'm a supermarket Santa
underneath the Christmas tree
The little ones all like to
come and sit upon my knee
I have to hold them tightly
'cause they fall to the floor
A little concern ain't
against the law...
So I see the children
feel the children
see the children
feel the children
all the time
See the children
(something something something??) all the time
I pass by the infant school
every single day
I push sweeties through the fence
but the kids just run away
I only want to talk with them
and join in their fun
But all the little children do
is run run run run run run run run...
(La la la la la la, la la la la la la..etc..)
See the children
Feel the children all the time..
See the children
Feel the children
See the children
Feel the children
All the time........
~~~~~~~~
mEAThOOk
I went into the butchers
I said wanted wanted wanted some...
Meat
Pass me some of that steak over there
It looks so...
Sweet
I lost my heart to a meat hook!
That butcher man was some...
Lady
He really stole my heart
He hung me up on his meat hook
A real piece of...
Slaughterhouse art
I lost my heart to a meat hook!
There's a meat hook in my heart
Tearing me all apart
Ripping out my insides
But I just can't get away
I can't leave my
Meat hook
~~~~~~~~
i wANt tO bE oLD
I want to be old
And creek by the fire
I want to smell of rotting wood
It's all I desire
I want my joints to seize up
I want my legs to ache
I want my eyesight to fail
I want my skin to flake
To be old
I want to be old
I want false teeth
And not be able to chew
I want to be senile
A centigenarian fool
I want lots of wrinkles
Want my hearing to go
I want to be ignored
And I want to be slow
To be old
I want to be old
~~~~~~~~
lISTeN
didn't find the lyrics for this one... Anyone there who can catch them on line? Sorry, can't get all of them, English is not my mother language
~~~~~~~~
i jUSt nEEd mYSElf
I know that I don't love you but I tell you that I do
But I only buy you flowers if I want anything from you
You say that if you'll leave me it will put me on a shelf
But I don't need you girl
I just need myself.
I just need myself
You trust in all my lies
you believe me when I say
that I'll be with you forever
so you let me have my way
I say "stay with me baby"
and I'll lavish you with wealth
but I'll make it that I leave you
'cause I just need myself.
I know that I don't love you but I tell you that I do
But I only buy you flowers if I want anything from you
You think that if you'll leave me it will put me on a shelf
But I don't need you girl
I just need myself.
I just need myself (3x)
I just need.
~~~~~~~~
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Robert is a true genius. Love the punk attitude.
¡ENORME, FABULOSO!
I recall Robert saying something along the lines that he wanted the band to be a “punk rock Beatles”. And yeah, you can hear it. That and some Elvis Costello vibes.
really? never heard Elvis rock out like this...i consider this as good, unique and important as any phase of their evolution. clearly influenced by the punk scene
Sounds very Buzzcocks influenced. Obviously the song about pedophilia draws on some of the stuff The Stranglers were doing.
Aside from being from the same timeframe, I hear absolutely *ZERO* Elvis Costello similarities. Less than zero even (see what I did there? 🤪). A driving 4/4 beat maybe? Nah. The only contemporaries Elvis C had in those early days were similar troubadours like Nick Lowe and Joe Jackson. This Easy Cure demo is more in line with the upstart punk bands of that era (too many to list). A bit of Hendrix influence too, which would stand to reason as both Bob and Lol were huge Jimi fans.
He sounds more like Lena Lovich to me...
I'm lovin' it.
Wow. Como quería escuchar lo primero de esta banda. Thanks
These early demos are pretty funny. I love them and had the vinyls ages ago. :(
Un trésor musical. Le grââl !
Sublime!
The Cure! 😁
ASTONISHING ...
they were just kids....trying to be exploited by Hansa, but even at this very early age Robert knew he was going to take over and become one of the most influential bands of their time.
No, he freaked out a bit when they started getting popular. I saw an interview where he said he intentionally tried to sing as badly as possible for 2 o3 albums to not get more famous, but they still kept getting more popular.
He just had a good sense of what was right for him and the band, as did the others in the band.
not sure of the Hansa story, but no doubt they were a unique sounding punk band (especially live, and evolved on subsequent albums. what albums did he intentionally sing bad on? i havent heard those...
@@erad67 what interview was that?
@@meepmoop2308 No clue, it was a very long time ago. Before RUclips existed.
Extraordinario material!!! Feliz de haberlo encontrado
I can definitely hear The Stooges influence in See The Children
Hendrix was probably their biggest influence. I think the Stooges thing probably comes from the fact that they were being swept up in the then-current punk explosion, and pretty much every punk band in existence at that time cited the Stooges as an influence.
I never got into these guys till i was 45! Kinda glad I waited. Im thrash and death metal all the way but now I have a whole new outlook!! Great band reminds me of the Cars
my friend is hella drunk and digs yoiur verbage
The Cure Sounds Nothing Like The Cars, even though a Great Band- (Moving In Stereo, Shoo Be Do & Candy O), The Cure Far Surpasses Them !😊
YOU RE RIGHT THERE!
true!
Yeah I just got into them too and I'm 32. I've always known about them but never really took a deep dive until recently and I'm hooked. One might even say obsessed lol. Better late than never. 🖤
I want to be Old - got that Undertones Sound ringing about it :)
Aside from the obvious punk style and energy, I just don’t hear it. The Undertones were much poppier, and Feargal’s one of a kind vocals are so different from this.
Rare and unique, tanks to posting that treasure !
#4 known as "pillbox tales" - at least I knew it like so.
Yeah, I think it's a bootleg mistake. Sometimes, I think they renamed songs on purpose so that people would buy it, thinking it was a "new" song.
@@fryewerkOr so that they wouldn’t get sued for infringement.
Soooo punk and wicked!
Lol was fantastic on the drums. Maybe limited in his abilities but he definitely was no slouch. As for his keyboarding, i think even he admitted it wasn't good.
Don't forget- he plays trumpet too on (Why Can't I Be You), possibly others. Don't know.
@@karenhoward2983 thats all mimed. He played xylophone in Japanese Whispers. What I didn't like about his book is that he never talked about how much he contributed to the music.
In the late nineties or early 2000s I saw Lol when he was doing some kind of “music of the cure” tour in small clubs. It was literally him just spinning all of the remixes from mixed up for about an hour. For the first half hour, it was to an empty dance floor. Everyone seemed confused. I got up and danced because it already felt awkward. I could’ve just left, but I paid money and got my money’s worth. It was kind of surreal looking at a stoic lol tolhurst just standing there while dancing to the longest remix of “let’s go to bed” I’ve ever heard.
Lol was definitely very limited in his proficiency as a drummer, but he had this trademark style that I’ve never really ever heard any other drummers come close to. Especially his fills. I also thought he pulled a great Budgie on Pornography. Really nailed that whole tribal thing. He played drums with a lot of heart, even if he was no Ginger Baker. It worked beautifully for what they were going for in the early 80’s. I couldn’t imagine any other drummer playing on those first 4 albums.
@@Idolhands7007That’s both a bit sad and bizarre. Sad in that someone of his legendary background would be spinning records to an empty dance floor (aside from yourself of course). Bizarre in that he would literally do a club tour just to spin The Cure’s remix album. I’m guessing there also must’ve been some kind of “meet ‘n greet”? I’ve always heard Lol is a very down to earth, easygoing guy who enjoys meeting and talking to fans. A couple of years ago he was doing a podcast with Budgie from the Banshees that was pretty interesting.
Surprisingly sounds well recorded for a Demo. Listening in a studio on some big ass Genelecs lol. Lots of early Demos of bands tend to have a muddled sound but vocals are placed spot on along with the instruments.
In the '70s most demos were recorded in professional studios. Musicians would sell their cars or do whatever to have the money to record their demo when they were ready. It wasn't until the '80s that people started recording demos on little 4-track TASCAM machines and we got that sound that we associate with homemade demos.
I love it!!!!!!
Damn this is good
one more day is a memory. love
I had this on my mp3 some years ago
Essa bagagem de influências fantásticas fez com que a banda se tornasse o que é hoje .. . FANTÁSTICA 🎼🎼🖤
Speechless....
Track number 2 I first heard on "Three Imaginary boys" quiet different version than the one features here, the rest is unknown
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They are still the same people. There is only so much creativity one can have and the best usually is when one is young and enthusiastic. We are lucky they went on to have a career, otherwise we would not have heard this. Nothing wrong with people making a living
This is great for what it is, but I still think that the whole ‘80-‘82 period (17 Seconds, Faith, Pornography) was their peak era. They were still just kids here. Enthusiastic as you said, but still trying to develop their own style and not quite focused yet. This is definitely a great little time capsule, but it doesn’t even come close to moving me the way their early 80’s stuff does.
Muito doido pensar que esse é o mesmo cara responsável pela obra de arte que é BloodFlowers
see the children hard rock
Well yeah, up until this point they had been playing in a hard rock/heavy metal style while they were calling themselves Malice (a metal band name if I’ve ever heard one). When they changed their name to Easy Cure, they were also changing their sound… to a more stripped down, raw, and punk-influenced style. Even so, they still had a little residual metal leftover in the mix.
Meat hook sounds very similar to Lovecats
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Merci Beaucoup !
Buenos desde el principio
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The Cure as a punk band that transcended into a new wave band (with a dark wave/gothic edge), and sadly turning into a cliche alternative rock band of the latter 80's onto the present. Their early punk roots is pretty tight....
Disintegration and bloodflowers were exceptions to a fairly steady downward spiral...
just saw them and they were awesome. so good muisically still.
was not onto them during the late eighties but they blow away other bands these days
If you think that songs like Snakepit, If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, Catch, Lullaby etc are “cliche alternative rock,” you don’t know what you’re talking about. Robert remained a singularly brilliant songwriter throughout the 80s, the inevitable decline happened in the 1990s.
Nostalgic Storm Waver guess what, you can be wrong about something, as I believe he’s about the Cure’s output from the late 80s, and still be a highly intelligent person. Disagreements happen, it’s not an excuse to be gratuitously rude to people you know nothing about.
The cure was never a new wave band.
I like the yet to be cured Cure.
Like uncured ham.
Reminds me more of Marc Bolan/glam rock than punk.
Well they were definitely into the glam stuff from a few years earlier, but I don’t really hear it at all in this. I do however hear (and feel) the punk rawness and energy on these recordings, albeit with a slight bit of early metal/hard rock overtones (which was the style they had previously been playing just before this, when they were called Malice). I’m not doubting that stuff like Bolan, Bowie, etc was an influence, in fact I know it was (Bowie at least)… but I really don’t hear that in these recordings.
Moi je dis "wouaaah" j'adooore 🖤🖤🖤 dieu existe vraiment et c'est Robert 🖤🖤🖤
See the children lyrics shocked me.Funny joke Robert,now explain yourself 🧐
I was wondering if I was the only one creeped by this. Big Cure fan but not on board with this surprise.
Also realize that people mature and hopefully zero victims exist.
No argument here. It's not my jam either. I do give him some benefit of the doubt that much like killing an Arab, where he places himself first person in a Camus novel, its just a first person cynical narrative of something he also finds creepy. Seems like he had the good taste to forget about it and never bring this creepy little ditty up again.
It was written to open peoples eyes to the fact that child predators existed. It was a blind era , blind to pedophiles in authority, blind to the neighbourhood pedo, the scout leader...the priest...
As John Lydon said, they knew what Jimmy Saville was up to, but nobody cared, nobody listened. This was an age where ALL adults were to be believed as truthful, respected without question and definately their actions go on without judgement.
@@James-wj8eq good point James.
Pas de Pomme d'Adam chez Robert 🤔
Dopeness.
La verdad esta muyyyy Chido, esto podría pegar incluso hoy Oct 2023!!! Robert Smith un Genio verdadero!!
feeeeel
Track list? Not sure what the first song is but the second track is definitely an early version of Meathook.
Phenomenal ‼️ Still great in 2023😎🔥🎸
I stopped the car the other day
I Have to ask a little girl about the way...
Punk Rock Cure
Épico!
Ripping solo in "I Want to Be Old!"
Definitely the best out of these songs. That one’s a classic.
Irado!
Remind me on early The Strangles
The stranglers were really aggressive and basically a lot older than early cure ...quite different bands .
More like the buzzcocks..
Robert smith saw the stranglers and then the buzzcocks a week later and loved both bands
Really, anyone could listen to this and hear or compare it to any number of early UK punk bands. They were turning on to that scene at the time they recorded this, so of course that’s going to come shining through. Throughout this comment section I’ve seen people comparing this to Buzzcocks, Wire, Undertones, Stooges, and even the NWOBHM (which is crazy, but whatever). Might as well add Stranglers to the mix.
@@Shikta-poobah67THIS DEMO RECORD WAS A ROBERT 'S BEGINS PROMOTION OVER THE PUNK, SO POPULAR I THAT TIMES. HE VERY SOLID DONE THE JOB. BELIVE ME, I TALK ABOUT BAND THE STRANGLERS IN ONLY ONE MOUMENT IN BALANCE.. ON EACH OF 2 POLES STAY THESE DEMO EP BY THE CURE. ON OTHER SIDE IS THE STRANGLERS' S NICELY THE FIRST LP VYNIL. BOAT STAY IN BALANCE SO I ' AM ASKING YOU : Do You may imagine scene where Robi Smith play and si g " Hangin' Around" of THE STRANGLERS "?? 😊Thanks God because one fact THESE PUNK DEMO CURE ' S TRY PERFORMANS WAS AN BLIND STREET ❤ ADIEU
Was he using that weird Fender Bass 6 then?
Sounds like Pete Shelley Smith... lol.. everyone starts somewhere.
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How long ago it was😪
Is Pearl Thompson the other guitarist?
Ryan Severson no
Ah yes it is Porl Thompson - www.thecure.cz/archives/files/archive-1977.html
Born Paul Stephen Thompson... he quit Easy Cure in 1977 but would return to The Cure, the one we know best, in 1984.
Yes, but he was called Porl back then. Michael Dempsey's on bass, Lol Tolhurst on the drums, and Robert Smith on guitar and vocals. This was recorded a month after Peter O'Toole left the band, so Robert had JUST become the singer.
É muito doido parece outra banda ( Na verdade era :v) !
Incrível a quantidade de gêneros que o Robert Smith já passou, o cara é foda.
É tal e qual escutar o Renato Russo antes de Legião Urbana, quando ele começou na banda ABORTO ELÉTRICO, a diferença da voz e o estilo da banda é isto!!!!
This is what Three Imaginary Boys should have sounded like.
Eh, I dunno. Even though it was only like a year later, they had already evolved beyond this more aggro style and started getting significantly more melodic by the time they went in to record the first album. Three Imaginary Boys is a very accurate sonic snapshot of where they were at, musically speaking at that particular time. They were constantly evolving.
This demo is very much a product of 1977.
When they play their last gig ever, they should close it with See the children
Yeah, I’m trying to imagine him singing those lyrics as a 60-something year old man, and it’s *REALLY* giving me the creeps. 🤣😬
@@Shikta-poobah67 he sings Lovecats and Close to me now, doesn't he? I don't think it could be any worse
@@alejandrocurado5134 Well let’s see. Lovecats is a literary reference, and Close To Me is about childhood fears and not being able to go to sleep because you’re scared of the bogeyman. See The Children is about being a child molester, so uh… yeah it could be significantly worse.
@@Shikta-poobah67 who cares what they are about? It's the music, not the meaning what 99 percent of fans go for
@@alejandrocurado5134 Well first of all, my initial comment, like the song itself, was tongue in cheek. Hence the usage of the little emoji thingies. You’re the one who took it somewhere weird by saying something as random as “it couldn’t be any worse than Lovecats or Close To Me… two songs that I’ve never once heard anybody say were creepy or sick. And then you say “who cares what (the songs) are about?”. Well, to answer your question… Oh I dunno, maybe… victims of child molesters? I mean, just a guess. 🤷♂️
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Recorded a day after my dad turned 17
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Very different from later stuff. Seems to me they went:
Punk
New Wave
Pop
Would their depressing stuff be classed as Goth or is that really just after the fact co-opted years later ?
@@nickrog6759 Interesting. I'm sure the band never thought about labels as they were making the music :)
New Wave is a part of pop/top 40. It was just begining to come out at that time. There was so many different kinds of music out late 70s & 80s ! Fashions matched the Music of those times.
A C they were jumping someone else’s train
In other words, a rather natural progression for a band that started out when they did but stuck around for the long haul. However, there was that little period from late ‘82 through to early ‘85, where Bob was experimenting with all sorts of different styles and sounds, trying to sort out which direction they were to go in. “The Top” by itself is a total mixed bag of different styles. It’s all over the map, musically. People like to label that one as “psychedelic” or whatever, and yes there are a few songs that fit the bill, but there’s a lot more going on with that album. It’s actually a bit of a mess, but interesting nonetheless. Japanese Whispers is another one that serves up a sample platter of different sounds, but in a whole different way.
Strange how people don't hear Bowie ...
You can tell they keyboard sound in David Bowie's Low album was a big influence in their later work
I heard quite a bit of Bowie in their later (80’s) recordings, but not so much here. Maybe some extremely basic structures, but to me this mostly just sounds like the typical punk fare of the day.
love is a punk !
And love grows where my Rosemary goes, and nobody knows…. but me
4? (pill box tales)
ciso
Best goth band
Long before the goth had set in.
Punk Cure sounds like early White Stripes.
stop that.
Don't you dare compared White stripes to the Cure.
Might as well say that this sounds like the Bay City Rollers. Just… no.
Man, some of the shit I see people trying to compare this to is killin’ me here. This has apparently confused a *LOT* of people. Me personally? I think it sounds like a much more raw and aggressive version of the early (first album era) Cure. Call me crazy. 🤷♂️
world war grunge rock
Well there’s a new one. “Grunge”… in 1977. Who’d a-thunk it? Might as well refer to this as industrial bluegrass techno.
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The Cure NWOBHM! Who ever knew?
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I'm hearing a bit of gallopy chugga-chugga riffing a-la some NWOBHM stuff, but this is pure punk/postpunk.
Hardly NWOBHM. It’s raw and aggro like a lot of those bands were, but in a completely different vein.
Am I the only one who finds it funny how they went from this to having dark morbid music
I don´t get it, how is it possible so many people think they have a dark morbid vibe? A sad smile is still a smile.....
“Funny”? No. It makes perfect sense to me. First you get angry, then the anger subsides and the depression sets in. A natural progression. It’s reflected in the music.
@@politicallyincorrect5802If it weren’t for one album of theirs, I’d agree with you. However, Pornography is one of the darkest and most morbid albums ever made by any band. It’s even darker in my opinion than “Closer” (Joy Division). Robert once famously stated (about Pornography) that he was either going to make that album or kill himself at the time. It was like performing an exorcism on yourself… and that’s definitely the vibe that comes through on it.
Everything else they did? Not really what I’d call dark or morbid. Just moody.
meme punk the cure