Analogue Pocket Teardown
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I received the all new Analogue Pocket for a review and caved in to the urge to take it apart and see what was inside. Doing this will void your warrenty so I don't advise it. I did it so you don't have too!
#Analogue #AnaloguePocket #TheRetroFuture
In case anyone is concerned, in the US, warranty void stickers are technically illegal and not enforceable grounds to refuse warranty service. They are used by companies to scare consumers into using first party repair services instead of third party, or independent, services.
Jumped in comments when I seen that to say exactly what you said.
Same in the EU.
It's a shame that Analogue is doing that since everything else they are doing seems to be great.
@@LordLiquidBaconII Everything besides disrespecting emulator developers, so I wouldn't praise them that much.
@@Gabi-enby What happened?
Awesome video, thanks for the tear-down
FYI Elliot, developers won't have access to reprogram the smaller Cyclone 10 FPGA. That's where the Analogue OS, the scaling and IO stuff sits. The actual system cores run on the Altera Cyclone V, that's the chip developers will have access to be able to build custom cores:
www.analogue.co/support/resource/developer-faq
that is useful information thank you!
Walled gardening some else's IP is just ludicrous. I have no sympathy for Analogue and hope Nintendo take legal action.
@@supermaster2012 Can you explain your point of view to us, it sounds like you know some interestingly vitirolic secrets about this company
@@supermaster2012 What are you talking about? What is it that is being walled off? Seems like developers will have access to pretty much anything they might want to and the Pocket will almost certainly end up with a 'jailbroken' firmware, like Analogue's other products, so I fail to see any real issue here.
Hack this thing! And let it run freely inside the retro gaming community for total awsomeness!
The sticker can't void your warranty. It is illegal to use these anyways. Dissapointing that they used these.
Looks like we won't be sticking custom mods inside there anytime soon...
I really wish I'd pre-ordered a year ago now. Didn't anticipate the price increase 😞
i would advice you to mod a Gameboy instead of spending money on a overpriced clone system
@@iHazMuffinz Poor advice, unless Gameboy is the only system you're interested in.
@@mirabilis this system wont be able to run the other systems unless you buy the addons which in the end will make this system a $500 clone
@@iHazMuffinz Every Analogue device can play roms off an SD card, you'd only need the adaptors if you want to use physical carts
@@jonathoncapshaw7610 but isn’t the point of this device that it can play physical cartridges? It kinda beats the purpose of it if you load from the sd card
seeing that big beautiful battery connector 👍😀
This is an extremely straightforward teardown; I'm hopeful that maybe we can get some people making some tactswitch dpad mods! Truly, that would be glorious.
Mine Pocket was having issues booting up properly and I emailed Analogue support, and ordered the screwdriver so hopefully Analogue gets back to me before I have to open my my pocket and remove the battery for a moment.
Congrats on 100k my dude
You get something new and immediately tear it apart... this is why you can't have nice things.
Acktually, this is EXACTLY why you SHOULD get nice things! Love your teardown vids man!
Just the time to arrive and Elliot already teared down it.😂😂😂
Spilt coffee on mine today and this video saved me $300. Thanks Elliot
Can you do a tear down of the analogue pocket dock?
if the components are that expensive, then the price along with the shipping cost really makes sense. Honestly, totally worth it; I wanted a quality product and I got it!
Reminds me of my younger days. Was always missing a few screws through.
I would have used a cloth underneath, to avoid any scratches from the hard surface of the table (one grain of sand is enough to destroy the screen lens).
But yeah: this PCB is a beauty!
Never gonna see one myself (my preorder got put in the 2023 bucket so I cancelled and asked for a refund) so this is the closest I'll get. Very sad that they seem to have let bots and scalpers win and average folks won't be seeing this device for years.
Was the screen scratched in the process? Sliding it across a wooden table made me feel reeeaaaally uneasy :-)
Now this will probably be interesting
Loving the content lately
They look amazing. They are very expensive. They are emulators. They don't play roms unless you hack them. They are not readily available. The gorilla glass sticks up and is not flush. The wait for them is only going to get longer as they cannot source the chips in turn this will increase the cost. As "fun" as these might be you are emulating original hardware of something that is iconic. It's a show piece for people who want to take endless photos of the damn things for insta and reddit.
Can’t wait to get mine, I got in the first preorder 😮💨
Is the screen further removable from the front shell? I’m really curious if it’s really 1600 x 1440 or if it’s larger and part of the screen is just hidden inside.
great video lad keep up with the good work ps how are you doing today ☺️
Here's my question: How are you, Elliot?
Does anyone know if the analog pocket is compatible with a flashcart?
It is
this is a black handheld console, I just stopped playing skate 3 and I just started playing crash bandicoot
like 404 lmao
Those warranty stickers are adorable.
Magnuson-Moss says get rekt, Analogue!
That board is gorgeous. Thanks for scratching the itch for me and tearing this down on camera. Also your thumbnail image was super clean. You are a legend.
You basically commented for me.
@@oldtreasurenewtreasure8530 they say great minds think alike
In the US it will NOT void the warranty. The FTC ruled in 2018 that voiding warranties over a tamper seal “generally prohibited by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act”
Basically unless it can be proven your method of opening the device was the causal factor of any sort of damage, a company is not allowed to void your warranty over open a device.
Same with the EU. But as long as people believe in the stickers, they serve their purpose...
I was about to post this, didn't they stop the void warranty thing.
iirc Elliot lives in the UK, not the US, not the EU (anymore).
"Warranty void if removed" stickers aren't enforceable in the US, at least. Not sure about the UK or other parts of the world.
It actually doesn't matter in this case because they're a purely US company.
They won't get to play musical courtrooms like bigger ones might so they'll always be subject to US law.
Not only aren't enforceable, but are actually illegal.
I used to work for Altera (now Intel FPGA) early to late 2000's, back when FPGA was quite expensive and not a particularly well-known technology (very much non commercial) outside of the EE community. I'm really enjoying seeing it go mainstream, especially in the music synthesizer and retro gaming spheres. Make me nostalgic for those times, it's a fascinating technology that I really miss working with.
That is a very well designed device. Good quality.
I think I found the LCD panel they are using.
It is made by BOE for VR goggles and you can buy one for about $20.
BOE VS035ZSM-NW0
Just to add, Gorilla glasses are not that expensive.... for the manufacturer, probably below 2 dollars.
When this was first announced, I assumed it was a display from the Valve Index.
I can't wait for you to manufacture electronics and sell things for 10 bucks more than the cost.
@@sunderark I am not arguing they are charging too much. I am just providing some transparency on incorrect claims.
@@SuperAngryWalrus Yeah. It is a mediocre LCD display for VR goggles(200cd brightness, 700:1 contrast), but still great for handheld gaming machines.
@@ddbhaha1529 Ah fair enough.
Wait a minute... Does it come with an IR port for support with gameboy color games?
yes, but the IR port is on the bottom of the system
Looks like the 10 pin header under the battery is a jtag port, used to access the fpgas and config flash chips inside. They probably flash the production firmware and run diagnostics through it at the factory. Everything looks beautifully designed, may have to pick one up at some point.
I am not a lawyer but I heard somewhere that warranty void stickers don't mean anything and you can still claim your warranty based on law.
Warranty void stickers are illegal, you can't void the warranty just because someone's opened up their device, you have to prove they damaged it. Every other manufacturer stopped using them a while ago, I expected Analogue to know better.
FYI, those "Void if broken" stickers are not enforceable under American law.
they just hope that you'll take their word for it when they claim that those stickers are legally enforceable, however feel free to look it up and correct me if it's not true in your area
US only
@@CuriousTinkering disapointing, but i appreciate the correction
My dudes imagine a clear shell for this
That would be sick! :D
Warranty void stickers are illegal. So don't worry.
Glad we have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act here, the sticker is void....in most cases, lol Thanks for the video Elliot
Warranty void stickers are not a legal tactic in all countries. UK is one of those countries
Peeling off warranty stickers do not void them anymore, they made a court ruling about it.
In the U.S
@@Samuel-qi7in And the EU, which is basically all countries these scammers ship to.
I swear those warranty void stickers are illegal now
So since you've got lots DMG gameboy and GBCs, can you check to see if the buttons and d-pad are swappable with stock GB or GBC buttons? They look very similar in size/shape! I would love to pop Boxy Pixel Brass d-pad and buttons in my pocket.
The dpad looks like a gba membrane for sure
@@Ver2ion The membrane does, but the D-pad itself is much bigger than GBA oddly. I have compared My analogue pocket to GBA/GBC/GB and the buttons are GBC sized while the d-pad is actually the size of the one on the DMG. So I guess a combo of GB buttons could work for swapping!
That Void sticker makes no sense to me. You can't verify it at all. It can't be inspected before breaking the bond, so it would seem impossible to verify it is intact.
Besides the fact that in their biggest market, the U.S., Void stickers are illegal as our warranty laws allow for servicing by the consumer and third parties.
Wow! Beautiful inside and out! This is what happens when PCB designers are passionate and given the freedom to do things right.
So in order to install an aftermarket custom shell to my Analogue Pocket (I need a transparent one), I'm going to have to void the warranty? That's a bit dodgy.
Nice console but too expensive ! I prefer original console with Screen Mod IPS LCD OSD 👍
The plastic is stamped PC-ABS. That material is overkill. Quality is not an issue.
Mine has shipped and is on its way. I got it and all the accessories. Been a long wait, and I’m ecstatic it will be here before Christmas!
Thanks for the vid I'm definitely buying this
Why did you placed the screen against the wood? Why???
Towels exist.
The Cyclone V chips aren't $65 they're $30, and Cyclone 10 is $10 not $20 on Digi-Key which is known to be expensive (12/15/2021)
All this stuff makes me wish they had a clear variant. But the black looks gorgeous. Maybe dbrand will make a skin for it.
werent void warranty stickers made non-binding in the US?
The pocket really does look phenomenal. Years of modding gameboys and I still can't make something to match this for the the amount of money. Even with the price increase, it looks to be worth every penny of $220
Exactly I've seen lots of comments calling it overpriced but if people had any clue how hard it is too make something from scratch they'd realize this is well worth the money. So these criticisms about emulators being better is far from the truth and unfair.
Well said. I was thinking of people doing the full Boxy Pixel mod to a GBA SP and how much that costs. This is totally worth buying. The dock looks really nice too.
@@reactking7093most people saying that are assuming this is just an emulation box. It's a lot different and obviously that screen is a massive difference as well.
Hate them all you want,but they designed and manufactured one hell of a fine product.
Totally, I don’t see any of these other emulation handheld companies making fpga consoles since you can’t just rip off someone else’s r&d like you can with an emulator@@reactking7093
Another benefit of the battery enclosure is safety, if it overheats and blows up you're less likely to get hurt or it may slightly reduce chances of fire. Pretty neat touch.
Those warranty stickers rub me the wrong way. Even steam deck has done away with that mentality. Also that battery caddy makes me think it would be harder to user replace :/.
The caddy is just for style and nothing else. You don't need it at all since the replacement battery will just be held securely in place by fitting it in.
they are literally illegal...
Depending on the country, those void warranty stickers may not be legally binding, or even legal for the manufacturer to apply at all
With how easily removed that back panel is, hopefully somebody tinkers with 3d printing a replacement or add-on that better grips the cartridges here soon since I've seen so many videos on those wiggling and freezing your game already.
Does the unit save your game save to the cartridge or the SD card
Analogue should offer a retro-transparent version to see that board.
I hope you got the pocket back together after the video ^^
I got my Analog Pocket off of ebay for $350 and not even 12 hours later the battery won't hold a charge, I've tried disconnecting the battery but no luck. What a disappointment
can it play games from the micro sd card ?
Not gonna lie that handheld really does look nice
Small FPGA: Altera/Intel Cyclone 10 10CL016YU256C8G
Small FPGA RAM: 2 x Alliance Memory AS4C8M16MSA
Microcontroller: some Microchip PIC (couldn’t see the part number)
Microcontroller(?) flash: GigaDevice GD25Q256D
Large FPGA: Altera/Intel Cyclone V (couldn’t see the part number)
Large FPGA RAM: 2 x Alliance Memory AS4C32M16MSA
LCD: BOE VS035ZSM-NW0 (from an earlier comment on this video)
Total bill at retail prices (which is waaaaaaay more than Analogue is paying): $97.50
Nice scam.
@@supermaster2012 I think you might want to look up the definition of "scam"...
The PIC Microcontroller is: PIC32MX470F512H
The Cyclone V is: 5CEBA4F23C8N
@@PiotrEsdenTempski Where did you get this information on the model number of the Cyclone V? Do you have a good source or is it just hearsay? It seems credible since that is the same one used in their other products, but I was hoping we would be able to confirm it with this video.
@@twistedtechnology There is a high-resolution board photo circulating that has legible part numbers on it.
Seems you can disassemble without removing the " VOID sticker".
Remove the shoulder button assembly... pull down on the back cover and remove as shown in video... and the screw behind the sticker is THERE 😆
No idea whats the sticker for 🤷♂
All the good things about the Analog Pocket but the dance pad for the Dance Dance Revolution does not fit. REFUND!!!!!!!!!
Does it look like any of the buttons or D-Pad could be interchangeable with any of the gameboy, NES, SNES, controllers parts or other Nintendo devices?
And yet I sent off my Pocket for repair to Analogue because I had A button and to a lesser extent, B button input issues, where it would miss inputs around 10% of the time. I received it back and it still has the same issues and they basically responded saying it was my fault for pressing the buttons in a non-typical way. I don't know what to do now as I'm not doing anything non-typical when I'm playing and I feel they should have just replaced my unit. Any suggestions?
MAN, any one else get anxious watching him take it apart on a wood table? I always put down a microfiber cloth, like those terry cloth microfiber cloths not the eyeglass ones, so there's a bit of cushion, or a hand towel from the bathroom since I only have about 20 of them, since I have 5 bathrooms, with two non-working or questionable state toilets. Old house, bought from the bank.
The thumbnail preview is just beautiful. I can't believe how much better your channel has become over the years.
Thanks for this. My Analogue was in storage for about 4 months, And it was charged. now I tried turning it on, battery is completely dead it shows a red exclamation point Next to the battery percentage. if you hook up the charger it doesn’t charge although it does turn on and functions. Email analogue support as it’s still on warranty, but if all else fails I’ll have to try replacing the battery myself some way.
Today, it became apparent that the SD memory card slot no longer accepts the memory card itself. The memory card no longer locks into the memory card slot.😢
How come the link cable isn't compatible with the DMG Game Boy? - did Nintendo change the cable for their Pocket and newer Game Boys?
Let's hope they make one without the awful Game Boy layout. Was mega disappointed that they never made a version that's horizontal and has the buttons on the side of the screen like every handheld does nowadays. Just a much better design than this form over function Game Boy nostalgia design. If I'm paying that much, I want it to not cramp my hands after a few minutes.
How difficult would it be to remove the screen and remaining buttons from the front chassis? I’m trying to hydro dip mine.
such a cool device!
Damn paused it at first glance of the motherboard and saw the A• logo and you just brought it up. Major detail here lol.
The plastic is apparently bad quality on the transparent and coloured editions as there are thousands of people reporting cracks randomly appearing due to pressure on the plastic.
Those buttons are in the wrong configuration. On an original gba the buttons are more closer to bing on the same axis vs how they are on a SNES witch this looks like.
please create a modded led transparent buttons analogue how sick would that be only things its missing is some led backlite buttons in the dark brightness control would be sick like dimming
if sth broken, there is nothing to replace by yourself - except the battery. I personally dont like if there is really everything on one board - because there is actually nothing to test out and to replace in the future.
Nintendo should release something like this and let us buy games for like $2 a pop.
I think price is decent, you basically spend a similar price getting a gbc plus ips big screen and housing and still that doesnt even play gba nor does it have even close to the size screen of this
It doesn't look like the void sticker even needs to be removed. The screw under it isn't one of them holding down the back panel is it?
I was thinking about buying a metal shell for this. Do you think that would be an easy install?
Can the battery be removed easily from the plastic frame it's in? I'd assume it's glued down?
What's the part number on the Cyclone V? I can't see it from the video.
I appreciate how thoroughly you describe what's happening onscreen because usually I'm not able to actually watch the video, driving, dog walk,working,etc. Thanks!
This thing’s next level premium like daaaangggg 🥶🥶🥶
Thanks for this! :) - how clicky is the D-pad? - not at all?
Is the QR code on that battery the link on where to buy the battery replacement if ever?
is the screen servicable or replacable? and what about the glass cover is that also replacable?
It kinda looks like the cartridge would fall out easy is that a problem?
Tried to do a button swap, ended up damaging the power ribbon cable😢