I think Storm will push into A tier, she wasn't as bad as people thought, like Wolverine people didn't understand how to play the character properly + her buffs were fairly significant + the people she has a team up with got buffed as well.
No. She was still only good if you had an entire team that played around her. She has absolutely awful survivability on her own which is fundamentally not good for a DPS.
Ain’t gonna be feared when people take her out in 2 seconds because he movement is buns doesn’t help 80% of the dps can destroy her as well even mantis could 💀
Not going to talk definitely on a hero we don't know just how good is gonna be. There was not meta with her last season so their is no content to base my beliefs on. I'll make an updated video when we know 100%
If you know how to use him rockets survivability is actually insane. Dash around a corner as soon as someone tries to flank or pull up on you and as soon as you’re out of sight wall climb like a crack head and 90% of the player base won’t be able to keep track of you. Especially on maps with tall walls.
jeff is the better option if u wanna be a support doing this he’s faster to return to the fight and harder to hit depends if ur goin for a team up or something tho
I tried him on my first match I got like 26,000 healing he op and this was last season now he can do more healing per shot it’s hard to die unless they have really good snipers even then it’s still hard to die
I LOVE the C/D buffs. Tip to some people that don't play them often: When you have your ult active, save your bubble (dagger storm) so that in case someone does hook you, you toss it at your feet to improve survivability.
Thor is a strait hulk killer. They both bust each other up pretty good. But when hulk transforms down to banner Thor can push him back into his team to shred him.
I'm completely with you on your take with Adam Warlock and I love the character - I main him and play decently well with him. That being said, something feels missing with his kit. I feel like if you can do well with Adam Warlock you could probably do better with a different support character. Against prolonged high damage comps, Adam doesn't sustain well. His Soul Bind ability helps and is extremely strong, but the cooldown is too long for any prolonged fight. His heals feel great when you use them, but again, in any prolonged engagement with high damage, you'll probably find yourself with everything meaningful in his kit on cooldown - other supports don't have to deal with that, at least not on the level Adam does. To add to that, if he gets dived he is vulnerable as hell, more than any other support. He has crap mobility, doesn't have any way to escape (except using soulbind/30sec cd), or has to use those precious heals to keep himself alive. Positioning is SO important with him and if you find yourself even a little out of position you can be toast. I think success with him really boils down to him being with another support - sure you can make that case probably with any support, I just feel with Adam it is especially true (almost a requirement). Now Adam players - we've all had games where we have felt like we are carrying - had plenty myself. I can already see people reading this and disagreeing lol. I'm just making the point that when I get dived as Adam and the enemy is outputting high damage on my team in a *prolonged* engagement, I feel way more stretched thin with him and out of answers more than I do other support. Which makes me feel like Adam needs some sort of buff either to personal survivability or healing output. I think increasing Adam's health pool is justifiable. Maybe decrease the cooldown on his main heal from 6s to 5s or put a heal over time effect on the main heal instead. Adams great and I think he needs a little love - with the right setup he can feel like the best healer in the game - other times he's vulnerable to being smoked.
I agree, Adam Warlock can be clutch, but his healing output can be a huge hinderance against a really high damage team. If you are on a bad team as well and your dps are just taking insane damage and you can't keep them up well enough then you really can't carry as much. I find as support I tend to carry more as a Mantis or Luna, Mantis for when my teams damage output isn't great or Luna when I need to keep my team healed up constantly. Also I am just not a huge fan of Adam Warlocks movement, very slow and can feel like it takes an eternity to get from spawn back to the front lines, especially when compared to the speed demons of Luna and Mantis (though Mantis did get nerfed in this department but still faster than Adam) Overall he is a solid healer and his ability to res himself as well as granting a res to Starlord and Mantis make him a solid team up choice as well, but I agree that he needs a little something more to make him as great as he could possibly be. Personally I would love to see some kind of blink mobility ability to make him more mobile or make it so he can fly around like Iron Man but maybe not as fast, maybe both of these... I also think if they gave him one more use of his heal and made it Heal over time, he could be a solid back up healer that focuses more on damage but can help top up people who are hurt but not necessarily in immediate danger
I swear a everyone knows how vulnerable he is I swear everything the backline gets attacked, as an adam player I get targeted like 70% of the time or I would be the only one not able to get out of the way quick, if I am on point that day I could probably kill them before they could get me but usually never happens
@princee6383 yeah this is exactly why I feel he needs some kind of blink teleport or ability to quickly fly even if said ability would be on a long cooldown, Adam needs something to make him able to get out of danger from dives other than just die and slowly float away to somewhere safe to res himself. Hela who is basically the duelist version of Adam even has a bird form to get her out of danger.
That's the thing. Don't waste your heals on poke damage that your team can easily get behind a corner and heal up to from your other healer. Also you say he's bad against dive when he's one of the best dive supports especially compared to a mantis or luna which is you can stun one character at most lf they don't use there 30 ways of avoiding it where as adam can full himself twice and give himself dr giving you 5 to 7 seconds where not only you or anyone on your team can kill the diver or force them away. The only better anti dive supports is rocket but rocket only if he gets dove because he can't burst heal a dove person like warlock and loki but loki immortality field is on a way longer cooldown and way eaiser to bait than warlock heals. Also keep in mind in poke battles warlock adds a lot of extra damage which can kill someone before they get back to cover. So yes if your in a lower rank where people don't use cover well Adam's lack of abltiy to let his tanks fed constantly could be seen as an issue but on the flip side he can eaisly punish people who are feeding with his higher damage output. He isn't lacking. He just has strenth in other areas. Its like how rockets burst healing is incredibly low yet he has an insane winrate because he makes up for it in other areas. Not every support excells in the same areas.
@@Inviabledude45 youre missing the point. If Adam is healing, it diminishes his ability to defend dives. If he has to defend dives, it diminishes his ability to heal. With other support you almost always have options. Using Luna/Mantis? Throw out the stun and kill the diver. Using Cloak and Dagger? Put down your Aoe heal, swap to cloak and punish. There is counterplay. Other support have options where Adam basically pulls his options from the same pool. Basically he has to rely on his team to defend himself and there is much less room for error with Adam - another reason why I brought up positioning being extra important for him
There's also some value for rocket with adam warlock, especially if you run triple strategist in your comp with mantis and a star lord. Your team becomes unkillable, and generally, the enemy team will use ults to win fights, and everyone just keeps reviving and ukts them back.
@@davinsequeirai don't know why people pick her. Way to reliant on that support ult crutch. She needs all 3 of her healing ablites just to surpass rockets base healing and get 2/3s of Jeff's base water gun healing nevemrind his amped healing with bubbles. Her anti dive is also pretty weak because she has one defensive ablity on a long cooldown that can easily be baited out because its her only movment ablity. Nevermind having to go to a form you can't heal to use her 2 actually good ablites.
17:00 One thing to add with Adam Warlock His healing numbers CAN be quite high. But more importantly, while his left and right click are indeed pretty damn powerful, do note that his left click actually has some GNARLY damage falloff over range.
Also find these timestamps in the descriptions of his videos please :) 00:00 Intro 00:24 DPS 1 02:01 Support 1 03:55 Tank 1 05:39 DPS 2 08:00 SUPPORT 2 09:37 TANK 2 11:53 DPS 3 14:21 SUPPORT 3 18:01 TANK 3 21:03 DPS 4 (bonus)
As a One above all ranked player I can say cloak, moonknight, fantastic, invisible women, strange, and hulk. 3 team up on one team. 2 team ups are extremely meta besides the new characters team up but their abilities alone are great.
As an Adam Warlock main, I think a lot of the reason people put him down is because they misuse his cooldowns, horrifically. With someone like Luna Snow or Cloak & Dagger, it's really easy to put out a ton of healing, especially since your primary fire heals. But with Adam, you have to manage your cooldowns and pay more attention. Which really boils down to needing a better game sense than most other supports require to play.
Yeaah, there's so many great support combinations. Like Luna & Loki, or maybe Luna & Invis, ooohh you could run Luna & Rocket, or even some Luna & Cloak orrrr uhhhhh...
Yeah the new buffs really aren’t good tbh especially with the supports, cloak buff is way over the top now we got Invis too and rocket buff so I barely get good team ups with Warlock now. And there’s a winter soldier every game now, too much nerfs and buffs will make the player count fall for sure.
@antistraightmen i cant tell if you're implying thats bad? It's 50 because she's in every game. She can only win half of the games if she's in every game.
Something that often goes overlooked with Adam is that when you pair him with Loki you can stack Soul Bond's on each-other. I saw this in a GM match and it was busted, I feel like you should only have one soul bond at a time.
Wait what does stacking a soul bond even do? I thought it just split any damage done equally amongst everyone who is soul bonded. Wouldn't having two of those... just stack damage equally on everyone who is soul bonded?
@@ShockinglyLiterate it does that but also to my understanding provides dmg reduction in the form of split dmg so your burst heals pretty much massively outpace the opponents dmg
Rocket also synergizes with wolverine as you can use his boosted double jump during his kidnap dash to get some absolutely crazy distance out of it. Agaisnt low mobility targets its pretty much a death sentence
This patch was awesome for me because Thor was already my strongest pick, and I had been stubbornly playing Storm because I love her. Now Thor, Storm, and Cap all got buffed, and their team synergy is just nuts. Also, now when you are on a team of 4 out of 6 shit-heads who instalock DPS, you can just play Cloak and Dagger and solo heal the entire team. Get carried, feeders.
I actually mained wimter soldier. He only had 2 bullets whoch was pretty bad, but they game him 3bullets after, and he became CRAZY. And this update, they gave him 25+ hp. Not to mention is ult....
Great guide! I do think you are one of the best out right now. Only thing I think you missed is how the the new fantastic 4 can and likely will shift the Metta.
Thor is/was reasonably one of the best tank picks that can duel with Wolverine due to his high damage output, self sustain and low hp pool. After the Wolverine buffs and after the Thor HP buffs, I haven't had the ability to takedown/survive Wolverine even with his animation cancel combo in season 1. With the ult buff, it had no impact on how I did things as I kept track of enemy CC/escapes before I used it, so the only thing cancelling my ult before was death and they didn't remove death as an ult cancel. With season 1, I'm moving away from Thor as a previous D2 Thor OTP. Thor also needs the Storm movement buffs due to his extreme weakness of enemies who know how to kite and have longer distance dashes/escapes than Storm Surge's gap close.
Hi Coach, nice video! Can you leave the prompts on the screen showing the buff/changes just a couple seconds longer? I have to pause the video in order to read what they say. I know you're talking about them anyway, but they aren't on the screen long enough to read without pausing. Thank you!
Had 5 hours on Squirrel Girl in s0 and only 67 kills with her ult. Have 40 mins with her in s1 so far and 22 kills with her ult already. It's a massive improvement. And it just makes her feel worth playing now. Which is awesome because she was already my favorite. She has some of the best lines in the game.
Swear to god i play her since 2 days. Shes my favorite so far but ihr havent played more than 50 Matches. I Had my best rounds with her with 35 Kills. She can BE Amazing in Most rounds
Something else about Thor is that I think that maybe if the Storm buffs are enough to get her to be picked more, her buffs can be an extra benefit to Thor beyond the actual team up. I've unfortunately never tried it in game, but I thing specially the speed boost helps thor more than the other tanks or even the other melee characters
protip for Magneto: turn on teammate health bars for Magneto specific settings. You will have higher awareness of your team's HP and exactly who needs a barrier when.
Bro, you gotta link those streamers whose videos you're using, tag em or something. Good video though, great info, just something you should look into adding.
Nice so picked a good time to pick up rocket. Wish i could pick up cloak and dagger but i just can’t get the hang of them especially when i should be swapping to cloak. Having fun with invisible woman just making life easier against divers.
You made this on the day of the patch. The meta's gonna take like a week or two to actually form. This is content farming using something that is entirely incorrect.
Wolverine is a menace. I personally think hes abit too strong. He kills ANY(with maybe the exception of Magneto) tanks and the fact most tanks can't kill him before he gets to them is annoying. If dps doesn't ficus him he dan singlehandedly carry a game
I was just in a match like that. I was solo tank. Every fight would start with the wolverine, Captain America, and Groot jumping me. I couldn't survive. I couldn't get DPS to help. I was usually dead in a couple seconds. We lost.
I’m not sure what the devs were thinking by buffing Wolverine. He already just straight annihilates many of the tanks who don’t have any defense against him. As the season progresses and the player base gets better at playing Wolverine, nobody will want to play tank. Vanguard is already the least played role, so again, what the devs thinking here? Looking forward to that guide on Wolverine Coach Mills but in the meantime, I’m going to start working on my Wolverine gameplay. Gonna be eating good on these tanks!
@@logicftw6756yeah that's the promblem. The reason he's so good is people don't want to learn the tanks that can actually fight against him like thor, america, hulk, or magento and just want to one trick strange and groot. Most tanks i don't usually have promblem fighting wolverine with. I think we should just give the playerbase time to adapt.
I wish you kept "synergies" out of the equation/reserved to a separate section of the video so us solo queuers know the information that we actually have control over. Like, if the only thing that makes character X worth looking at now is their synergy, then that doesn't exactly make them a priority to someone who can't force a synergetic team comp. To that player, the top 10 would look drastically different when taking synergies out of the equation. I just don't wanna feel like i'm being setup to fail here. I know how vital they are, but again, we all play within our capabilities. And not all of us can make that happen.
I'm curious what you think's going to happen to IronFist. (buff recommendation below) Obviously he wasn't touched in the season 1 patch notes. Considering Iron Fist was already a bottom tier DPS, along with the fact that tank and support seem to have a generalized increase in value/viability going into season 1 compared to dps, along with a lot of other dps's that were already better than iron fist getting Buffs to make them even better than IF. I don't see how Iron Fist doesnt just becomes even worse and less viable in season 1 meta. it was bad enough in season zero for Plat/diamond and up, but now you're 100% trolling if you pick Iron Fist. Since they buffed Black Widow Scarlet Witch and storm they seem to subscribe to the mindset of bringing underperformers up to par. so I'd like to think that there is a iron fist buff in the future. I thought about this before on what buff would help Iron Fist without just making him deal more damage. Iron Fist already has a mechanic that reduces his cool down by one second for every basic attack you land on an enemy. but this cool down effect is only applied to Dragon defense. I̲f̲ ̲t̲h̲i̲s̲ ̲c̲o̲o̲l̲d̲o̲w̲n̲ ̲e̲f̲f̲e̲c̲t̲ ̲w̲a̲s̲ ̲a̲l̲s̲o̲ ̲a̲p̲p̲l̲i̲e̲d̲ ̲t̲o̲ ̲h̲i̲s̲ ̲K̲'̲U̲N̲-̲L̲U̲N̲ ̲K̲I̲C̲K̲.̲ I think this would drastically increase his kill potential as well as keeping his main escape up more often. with an adjustment like this I don't think it near puts him in contention with the value of A tier characters but at least makes him more playable in ranked. Considering a character like Psylocke gets ability cooldown from basic attack for ALL of her abilities, I don't think it's a crazy idea for IF the have the effect extended to at least one more of his abilities. tbh he doesnt need the effect for HARMONY RECOVERY, and it wouldnt do anything for him anyways.
Can’t wait for the high elo Storm players to put out more content. I have a feeling she’s going to be very good this season. I’ve been having some extremely good games with her.
Especially with the ult buffs, with cloak i do 2 or 3 dashes forward and one back generally to retreat and stack heals/spread it out. Cloak n dagger carries me
I like that cloak and dagger are so good because I'm a moon knight player so I get the teamup a lot. The teamup helps a lot in those matches people are really focused on killing moon knight immediately
High skill floor means that even if you’re trash you still get a base level of value out of him. Low skill floor means if you don’t have skills you’re gonna be dogshit.
Adam burst healing and dps in insanely good. The amount of times I burst killed the other healer then heal my team mates where they over dive to get low hp target to win team fights are insane. The issue is you need good AIM !
I just don't get Namor man. I feel like he's not that great? I know other people disagree and there's definitely people out there putting in work with him but like... if people just shoot his squids he's terrible? They don't even have much HP and once they're dead he's left with his mediocre left click while he waits for the decently long recharge time on squid spawns.
If you place Namor’s turret’s wisely like on off angles, even if they get immediately shot at that’s still attention being taken away from the team and leaving openings for your team to make plays.
Yeah, that’s typically more of an issue with low rank namors who just throw squids out in front of their characters. I’d expect that to change as well though, depending upon the targeting.
Put the squids high up on walls/odd angles where they don’t get shot right away and hit headshots with his primary fire and you will see he’s very strong, plus he can go invincible for a good couple seconds to get out of trouble
I love how the time stamps aren’t labeled as what the actual names of the heroes are, really thoughtful and clever of you guys actually! Keep up the flawless and selfless content 🤡
Bro, if you got into a video, watch the video, think that he does this for a living, he needs to maintain a good view time, crazy that you can’t just click the time stamp and wait 5 seconds to view which character it is.
If that’s the case then make more helpful and entertaining content? I don’t know what you want from me, sometime being less worried about view time and saving someone 10 minutes earns you support. I must have missed when this content creator put a condom on or are you just riding his shit like that raw and unprotected?
man im a new player who been playing for while but kinda just yk... ass at games and been having trouble with mains, but all i wanna say is thanks so much i always watch yo vids and i been planning to try a thor main so thank you again.
Haven't played dps since before season 0 ended and today I decided to grind the event using winter soldier again after being a cloak and dagger main. Thought I'd be rusty instead it was an instant mvp😂
Wolverines shift ability needs some tuning. It’s way too inconsistent. Even in this video there were several times when it looked like a perfect grab and he just flies over the enemy
I found thor right when i heard he was getting buffed. Already my favorite character next to loki and sue storm. Im gonna attempt to get into wolverine bc of his bp skin
I think they ushered in the tank buster meta unknowingly They nerfed the 2 tanks with highest W rate Buffed Winter Soldier to be more survivable. Meaning he has highest sustain against the tanks he's busting Buff Wolverine. Which will lead to better sustain for sure Buffed Punishers shot gun which was already OP against Tanks. Most people don't know it does way to much damage. It's issue was consistency. Which was directly buffed Strats the will guarantee a tank kill - Coordinated Wolverine Lunge into Shotgun Punisher - Winter Soldier pull into any of the other two - Solo Tanks diving a punisher is certain death since none of the tanks have high lethality outside thor
Yea winter soldier and punisher is gonna make it almost impossible to solo queue with a vanguard 😭 i still think magneto is gonna be amazing except against wolverine
I’ve seen a lot of inconsistent info over Season 0, do the team up anchors need the other members of the team up for their buff? I play a lot of C&D already, I’m not any more powerful with a moon knight right? I always have my seasonal bonus, but MK gets his invis ability when the team up is active? Thanks in advance if you can help me clear up the confusion
Yeah the passive 'anchor' buff, the stat boost, Is always active. Whereas the extra ability that the other member(s) of the team up gets is only available when the character is on your team.
Yeah moon knight needs to be on the team for the buff. The anchors get buffs, and the others get another skill, if the team up has 3 people (like hulk) you only need 2 to activate
@@deathcorebunny2299 See, this is already different than the first comment. I’m pretty sure C&D gets the bonus regardless of MK, but it’s impossible to tell because you can’t see your own buffs in game. But Groot always has the bonus hp, regardless of if either rocket or Jeff is on the team or not.
"anchors" who enable heros with teamup abilities always get the buff even without their 2nd/3rd partner, so CnD as the anchor always has the 15% heal bonus
I didn’t miss evaluate Wolverine. I have so many posts talking about he’s getting unwarranted hate and that in the hands of experienced people he’s S tier. No one wanted to listen. Until top players got their hands on him
i always likes squirl girl unless they are playing an iron man. its not impossible to hit iron man its just more difficult to hit him with her then any other ranged dps. having to calculate the projectile drop over distance againts a really good iron man who is all over the place. is a real pain in the butt. but other then iron man i had no problem pulling out a squirl girl and kicking butt because that aoe damage is so strong.
Yoo i watched this vid and have been spamming adam ever since. I used to play tank before but I’m loving the healer life. Adam is cracked you are so right
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i cannot wait to get off work today and grind this all night lmaoooo.
Call in sick. The grind never stops.
You can grind me all night
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brooooooo me tooooo, 6 hours away lol, im staying up all night with my venom and punisher buffs
finally the buffed my main winter soldier finna get spooky
I think Storm will push into A tier, she wasn't as bad as people thought, like Wolverine people didn't understand how to play the character properly + her buffs were fairly significant + the people she has a team up with got buffed as well.
Agree. She was already very good (if people knew how to use her). I've already seen some decent players going crazy.
It’s gonna piss me off because I would run diamond lobbies with her😅 now everyone and their mom gonna use her lol
No. She was still only good if you had an entire team that played around her. She has absolutely awful survivability on her own which is fundamentally not good for a DPS.
@@EcopiuM well in that case thats a skill issue
@@cos_thm3462 Pushed to GM 1 with an 80 win percentage, simply didn't play enough to keep going further. Cope and seethe.
Not talking about storm is troll. I was already doing most damage in games with her and now with the buff she should absolutely be feared.
Ain’t gonna be feared when people take her out in 2 seconds because he movement is buns doesn’t help 80% of the dps can destroy her as well even mantis could 💀
Rage bait fs
Not going to talk definitely on a hero we don't know just how good is gonna be. There was not meta with her last season so their is no content to base my beliefs on. I'll make an updated video when we know 100%
@@DemonKingDeon if you get taken out as a storm youre playing her horribly. stick just behind your tanks and you'll be doing perfectly fine.
Just coz youre good with her, doesnt mean shes good
If you know how to use him rockets survivability is actually insane. Dash around a corner as soon as someone tries to flank or pull up on you and as soon as you’re out of sight wall climb like a crack head and 90% of the player base won’t be able to keep track of you. Especially on maps with tall walls.
Annoys TF outta people too. The rage they must feel.
jeff is the better option if u wanna be a support doing this he’s faster to return to the fight and harder to hit depends if ur goin for a team up or something tho
Went like 17-0-25 with him in ranked the other day. I love just being an unkillable pest. Everyone was trying to chase me down
Well diamond is the top 5% of players so that won't help at high level play lol
I tried him on my first match I got like 26,000 healing he op and this was last season now he can do more healing per shot it’s hard to die unless they have really good snipers even then it’s still hard to die
They buff Adam Warlock in this season, the new skin, the aura it gives is very strong xD
King Baldwin aura fr
If we're being real ah aura.
He been strong in the best Sean player by far
I LOVE the C/D buffs. Tip to some people that don't play them often: When you have your ult active, save your bubble (dagger storm) so that in case someone does hook you, you toss it at your feet to improve survivability.
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Thor is a strait hulk killer. They both bust each other up pretty good. But when hulk transforms down to banner Thor can push him back into his team to shred him.
I'm completely with you on your take with Adam Warlock and I love the character - I main him and play decently well with him. That being said, something feels missing with his kit. I feel like if you can do well with Adam Warlock you could probably do better with a different support character. Against prolonged high damage comps, Adam doesn't sustain well. His Soul Bind ability helps and is extremely strong, but the cooldown is too long for any prolonged fight. His heals feel great when you use them, but again, in any prolonged engagement with high damage, you'll probably find yourself with everything meaningful in his kit on cooldown - other supports don't have to deal with that, at least not on the level Adam does. To add to that, if he gets dived he is vulnerable as hell, more than any other support. He has crap mobility, doesn't have any way to escape (except using soulbind/30sec cd), or has to use those precious heals to keep himself alive. Positioning is SO important with him and if you find yourself even a little out of position you can be toast. I think success with him really boils down to him being with another support - sure you can make that case probably with any support, I just feel with Adam it is especially true (almost a requirement).
Now Adam players - we've all had games where we have felt like we are carrying - had plenty myself. I can already see people reading this and disagreeing lol. I'm just making the point that when I get dived as Adam and the enemy is outputting high damage on my team in a *prolonged* engagement, I feel way more stretched thin with him and out of answers more than I do other support. Which makes me feel like Adam needs some sort of buff either to personal survivability or healing output. I think increasing Adam's health pool is justifiable. Maybe decrease the cooldown on his main heal from 6s to 5s or put a heal over time effect on the main heal instead. Adams great and I think he needs a little love - with the right setup he can feel like the best healer in the game - other times he's vulnerable to being smoked.
I agree, Adam Warlock can be clutch, but his healing output can be a huge hinderance against a really high damage team. If you are on a bad team as well and your dps are just taking insane damage and you can't keep them up well enough then you really can't carry as much. I find as support I tend to carry more as a Mantis or Luna, Mantis for when my teams damage output isn't great or Luna when I need to keep my team healed up constantly. Also I am just not a huge fan of Adam Warlocks movement, very slow and can feel like it takes an eternity to get from spawn back to the front lines, especially when compared to the speed demons of Luna and Mantis (though Mantis did get nerfed in this department but still faster than Adam) Overall he is a solid healer and his ability to res himself as well as granting a res to Starlord and Mantis make him a solid team up choice as well, but I agree that he needs a little something more to make him as great as he could possibly be. Personally I would love to see some kind of blink mobility ability to make him more mobile or make it so he can fly around like Iron Man but maybe not as fast, maybe both of these... I also think if they gave him one more use of his heal and made it Heal over time, he could be a solid back up healer that focuses more on damage but can help top up people who are hurt but not necessarily in immediate danger
I swear a everyone knows how vulnerable he is I swear everything the backline gets attacked, as an adam player I get targeted like 70% of the time or I would be the only one not able to get out of the way quick, if I am on point that day I could probably kill them before they could get me but usually never happens
@princee6383 yeah this is exactly why I feel he needs some kind of blink teleport or ability to quickly fly even if said ability would be on a long cooldown, Adam needs something to make him able to get out of danger from dives other than just die and slowly float away to somewhere safe to res himself. Hela who is basically the duelist version of Adam even has a bird form to get her out of danger.
That's the thing. Don't waste your heals on poke damage that your team can easily get behind a corner and heal up to from your other healer. Also you say he's bad against dive when he's one of the best dive supports especially compared to a mantis or luna which is you can stun one character at most lf they don't use there 30 ways of avoiding it where as adam can full himself twice and give himself dr giving you 5 to 7 seconds where not only you or anyone on your team can kill the diver or force them away. The only better anti dive supports is rocket but rocket only if he gets dove because he can't burst heal a dove person like warlock and loki but loki immortality field is on a way longer cooldown and way eaiser to bait than warlock heals. Also keep in mind in poke battles warlock adds a lot of extra damage which can kill someone before they get back to cover. So yes if your in a lower rank where people don't use cover well Adam's lack of abltiy to let his tanks fed constantly could be seen as an issue but on the flip side he can eaisly punish people who are feeding with his higher damage output. He isn't lacking. He just has strenth in other areas. Its like how rockets burst healing is incredibly low yet he has an insane winrate because he makes up for it in other areas. Not every support excells in the same areas.
@@Inviabledude45 youre missing the point. If Adam is healing, it diminishes his ability to defend dives. If he has to defend dives, it diminishes his ability to heal. With other support you almost always have options. Using Luna/Mantis? Throw out the stun and kill the diver. Using Cloak and Dagger? Put down your Aoe heal, swap to cloak and punish. There is counterplay. Other support have options where Adam basically pulls his options from the same pool. Basically he has to rely on his team to defend himself and there is much less room for error with Adam - another reason why I brought up positioning being extra important for him
There's also some value for rocket with adam warlock, especially if you run triple strategist in your comp with mantis and a star lord. Your team becomes unkillable, and generally, the enemy team will use ults to win fights, and everyone just keeps reviving and ukts them back.
3rd healer Loki to copy Warlock ult for extra disrespect
So glad mills is branching out he seems to be having a lot more fun he seemed so miserable doing ow content😂
C&D GOT HELLA BUFFED, SHE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE HIGHER RANK GAMEPLAY
She already has extremely high pickrates on high elo, just atrocious winrate
I have a 82% win rate. GM season 0, the buff is about to swing that to 90%
😂😂😂😂 I love how everyone says she like it’s not literally two people
Why are you yelling bro
@@davinsequeirai don't know why people pick her. Way to reliant on that support ult crutch. She needs all 3 of her healing ablites just to surpass rockets base healing and get 2/3s of Jeff's base water gun healing nevemrind his amped healing with bubbles. Her anti dive is also pretty weak because she has one defensive ablity on a long cooldown that can easily be baited out because its her only movment ablity. Nevermind having to go to a form you can't heal to use her 2 actually good ablites.
17:00 One thing to add with Adam Warlock
His healing numbers CAN be quite high. But more importantly, while his left and right click are indeed pretty damn powerful, do note that his left click actually has some GNARLY damage falloff over range.
Also find these timestamps in the descriptions of his videos please :)
00:00 Intro
00:24 DPS 1
02:01 Support 1
03:55 Tank 1
05:39 DPS 2
08:00 SUPPORT 2
09:37 TANK 2
11:53 DPS 3
14:21 SUPPORT 3
18:01 TANK 3
21:03 DPS 4 (bonus)
They are literally time stamped on the video itself
Rocket is my main with so many DPS choosing Bucky why not
We rocket guys are gonna be flying high today 😂
Amen to that
You Rockets are a godsend don't listen to any slander fr, with my C&D I've had many games where nobody dies.
Punisher Player here, you're my favourite kind of rodent 🫡
Glad we’re all on the same page 🦝
As a One above all ranked player I can say cloak, moonknight, fantastic, invisible women, strange, and hulk. 3 team up on one team. 2 team ups are extremely meta besides the new characters team up but their abilities alone are great.
So I’m a hulk man should I just protect the healers and get picks ?
As an Adam Warlock main, I think a lot of the reason people put him down is because they misuse his cooldowns, horrifically. With someone like Luna Snow or Cloak & Dagger, it's really easy to put out a ton of healing, especially since your primary fire heals. But with Adam, you have to manage your cooldowns and pay more attention. Which really boils down to needing a better game sense than most other supports require to play.
Summary:
1. Wolverine
2. Cloak&Dagger
3. Thor
4. Bucky
5. Rocket
6. Magneto
7. Namor
8. Adam
9. Venom
10. Squirrel Girl
Yeaah, there's so many great support combinations. Like Luna & Loki, or maybe Luna & Invis, ooohh you could run Luna & Rocket, or even some Luna & Cloak orrrr uhhhhh...
Luna & any other support?
@@isabelbolton7185😂
Yeah the new buffs really aren’t good tbh especially with the supports, cloak buff is way over the top now we got Invis too and rocket buff so I barely get good team ups with Warlock now. And there’s a winter soldier every game now, too much nerfs and buffs will make the player count fall for sure.
yall can stay mad when she has a 50% winrate
@antistraightmen i cant tell if you're implying thats bad? It's 50 because she's in every game. She can only win half of the games if she's in every game.
Storm isn’t on this list but she’s gonna be Stier meta ngl
She actually might be.
Shhhh don’t let them catch on to this, what’d loki say, “let your enemies underestimate you”
Cap only believers lol
You normies don't know what S tier means.
@@-8h-you havent played enough of S1 yet then. She is cracked and there is no other way to describe it.
Something that often goes overlooked with Adam is that when you pair him with Loki you can stack Soul Bond's on each-other. I saw this in a GM match and it was busted, I feel like you should only have one soul bond at a time.
You can stack them wtf lol that’s insane
Wait what does stacking a soul bond even do? I thought it just split any damage done equally amongst everyone who is soul bonded. Wouldn't having two of those... just stack damage equally on everyone who is soul bonded?
@@ShockinglyLiterate it does that but also to my understanding provides dmg reduction in the form of split dmg so your burst heals pretty much massively outpace the opponents dmg
Rocket also synergizes with wolverine as you can use his boosted double jump during his kidnap dash to get some absolutely crazy distance out of it. Agaisnt low mobility targets its pretty much a death sentence
This patch was awesome for me because Thor was already my strongest pick, and I had been stubbornly playing Storm because I love her. Now Thor, Storm, and Cap all got buffed, and their team synergy is just nuts.
Also, now when you are on a team of 4 out of 6 shit-heads who instalock DPS, you can just play Cloak and Dagger and solo heal the entire team. Get carried, feeders.
I actually mained wimter soldier. He only had 2 bullets whoch was pretty bad, but they game him 3bullets after, and he became CRAZY. And this update, they gave him 25+ hp. Not to mention is ult....
*AAAAAAAGAINNNNNN*
As a Namor main I'm absolutely thrilled lol
same
A good Adam will carry their team especially if they have a mantis, basically two strategics who can’t die and are extremely powerful
I like how the event gave Thor a free skin as well.
It’s great showing people my new Thor skin in games
You failed to mention that cloak and daggers switch is now faster as well.
Great guide! I do think you are one of the best out right now. Only thing I think you missed is how the the new fantastic 4 can and likely will shift the Metta.
Yes! Finally someone recognizes how good rocket can be. Thank you!
Thor is/was reasonably one of the best tank picks that can duel with Wolverine due to his high damage output, self sustain and low hp pool. After the Wolverine buffs and after the Thor HP buffs, I haven't had the ability to takedown/survive Wolverine even with his animation cancel combo in season 1. With the ult buff, it had no impact on how I did things as I kept track of enemy CC/escapes before I used it, so the only thing cancelling my ult before was death and they didn't remove death as an ult cancel. With season 1, I'm moving away from Thor as a previous D2 Thor OTP.
Thor also needs the Storm movement buffs due to his extreme weakness of enemies who know how to kite and have longer distance dashes/escapes than Storm Surge's gap close.
Thanks for not mentioning storm😁 I was already pretty good w/ her but now with her buffs, people are reallyyy gonna underestimate her
Wolverine kidnapping and murdering tanks
Me a prominent Capn Murica player *interesting ?!
Hi Coach, nice video! Can you leave the prompts on the screen showing the buff/changes just a couple seconds longer? I have to pause the video in order to read what they say. I know you're talking about them anyway, but they aren't on the screen long enough to read without pausing. Thank you!
Had 5 hours on Squirrel Girl in s0 and only 67 kills with her ult. Have 40 mins with her in s1 so far and 22 kills with her ult already. It's a massive improvement. And it just makes her feel worth playing now. Which is awesome because she was already my favorite. She has some of the best lines in the game.
Also pretty brainless gameplay... if you can't take an objective and theyre clumping, spam the perfect bounce and voila 😂😂
Swear to god i play her since 2 days. Shes my favorite so far but ihr havent played more than 50 Matches. I Had my best rounds with her with 35 Kills. She can BE Amazing in Most rounds
Started playing her more yesterday after season 0 I went to healer with warlock. Now I'm at like 415k DMG total for season 1 alone.
Something else about Thor is that I think that maybe if the Storm buffs are enough to get her to be picked more, her buffs can be an extra benefit to Thor beyond the actual team up. I've unfortunately never tried it in game, but I thing specially the speed boost helps thor more than the other tanks or even the other melee characters
That means Storm having to always be in distance with him though.
protip for Magneto: turn on teammate health bars for Magneto specific settings. You will have higher awareness of your team's HP and exactly who needs a barrier when.
It was absolutely insane to see NTMR get taken apart by Wolverine and then not ban him.
Dude Bucky is going to be crazy this season
No he's not.
Bro, you gotta link those streamers whose videos you're using, tag em or something. Good video though, great info, just something you should look into adding.
Nice so picked a good time to pick up rocket. Wish i could pick up cloak and dagger but i just can’t get the hang of them especially when i should be swapping to cloak. Having fun with invisible woman just making life easier against divers.
Oh, god. The same guys who got wolverine, storm, cap, squirrel girl and thor all wrong are making more tier lists. Help us from this madness.
You made this on the day of the patch. The meta's gonna take like a week or two to actually form. This is content farming using something that is entirely incorrect.
Wolverine is a menace. I personally think hes abit too strong. He kills ANY(with maybe the exception of Magneto) tanks and the fact most tanks can't kill him before he gets to them is annoying. If dps doesn't ficus him he dan singlehandedly carry a game
I was just in a match like that. I was solo tank. Every fight would start with the wolverine, Captain America, and Groot jumping me. I couldn't survive. I couldn't get DPS to help. I was usually dead in a couple seconds. We lost.
I’m not sure what the devs were thinking by buffing Wolverine. He already just straight annihilates many of the tanks who don’t have any defense against him. As the season progresses and the player base gets better at playing Wolverine, nobody will want to play tank. Vanguard is already the least played role, so again, what the devs thinking here?
Looking forward to that guide on Wolverine Coach Mills but in the meantime, I’m going to start working on my Wolverine gameplay. Gonna be eating good on these tanks!
@@logicftw6756yeah that's the promblem. The reason he's so good is people don't want to learn the tanks that can actually fight against him like thor, america, hulk, or magento and just want to one trick strange and groot. Most tanks i don't usually have promblem fighting wolverine with. I think we should just give the playerbase time to adapt.
The point of Wolverine is to keep tanks from being too meta. No 3 tank meta with Wolverine how he is.
he’s weak against regular so it’s balanced
I wish you kept "synergies" out of the equation/reserved to a separate section of the video so us solo queuers know the information that we actually have control over.
Like, if the only thing that makes character X worth looking at now is their synergy, then that doesn't exactly make them a priority to someone who can't force a synergetic team comp. To that player, the top 10 would look drastically different when taking synergies out of the equation. I just don't wanna feel like i'm being setup to fail here.
I know how vital they are, but again, we all play within our capabilities. And not all of us can make that happen.
I'm curious what you think's going to happen to IronFist. (buff recommendation below)
Obviously he wasn't touched in the season 1 patch notes. Considering Iron Fist was already a bottom tier DPS, along with the fact that tank and support seem to have a generalized increase in value/viability going into season 1 compared to dps, along with a lot of other dps's that were already better than iron fist getting Buffs to make them even better than IF. I don't see how Iron Fist doesnt just becomes even worse and less viable in season 1 meta. it was bad enough in season zero for Plat/diamond and up, but now you're 100% trolling if you pick Iron Fist. Since they buffed Black Widow Scarlet Witch and storm they seem to subscribe to the mindset of bringing underperformers up to par. so I'd like to think that there is a iron fist buff in the future.
I thought about this before on what buff would help Iron Fist without just making him deal more damage. Iron Fist already has a mechanic that reduces his cool down by one second for every basic attack you land on an enemy. but this cool down effect is only applied to Dragon defense. I̲f̲ ̲t̲h̲i̲s̲ ̲c̲o̲o̲l̲d̲o̲w̲n̲ ̲e̲f̲f̲e̲c̲t̲ ̲w̲a̲s̲ ̲a̲l̲s̲o̲ ̲a̲p̲p̲l̲i̲e̲d̲ ̲t̲o̲ ̲h̲i̲s̲ ̲K̲'̲U̲N̲-̲L̲U̲N̲ ̲K̲I̲C̲K̲.̲ I think this would drastically increase his kill potential as well as keeping his main escape up more often. with an adjustment like this I don't think it near puts him in contention with the value of A tier characters but at least makes him more playable in ranked.
Considering a character like Psylocke gets ability cooldown from basic attack for ALL of her abilities, I don't think it's a crazy idea for IF the have the effect extended to at least one more of his abilities. tbh he doesnt need the effect for HARMONY RECOVERY, and it wouldnt do anything for him anyways.
Can’t wait for the high elo Storm players to put out more content. I have a feeling she’s going to be very good this season. I’ve been having some extremely good games with her.
Great content and vibes! would love to see the @ of the people you show onscreen! keep making the community
Especially with the ult buffs, with cloak i do 2 or 3 dashes forward and one back generally to retreat and stack heals/spread it out. Cloak n dagger carries me
Another tip for winter soldier is all of his cooldown abilities reloads his weapon
I've been having a hard time dealing with Iron Man and Wolverine. Hela and Hawkeye are still good but I don't really see them do much
I like that cloak and dagger are so good because I'm a moon knight player so I get the teamup a lot. The teamup helps a lot in those matches people are really focused on killing moon knight immediately
Many of my favorite characters either got a direct buff or had their counters nerfed 😂
High skill floor means that even if you’re trash you still get a base level of value out of him. Low skill floor means if you don’t have skills you’re gonna be dogshit.
Adam burst healing and dps in insanely good. The amount of times I burst killed the other healer then heal my team mates where they over dive to get low hp target to win team fights are insane. The issue is you need good AIM !
Cool video, but could you put the name of the streamers that you are using in the video? I recognize some of them, but some people won't.
I just don't get Namor man. I feel like he's not that great? I know other people disagree and there's definitely people out there putting in work with him but like... if people just shoot his squids he's terrible? They don't even have much HP and once they're dead he's left with his mediocre left click while he waits for the decently long recharge time on squid spawns.
If you place Namor’s turret’s wisely like on off angles, even if they get immediately shot at that’s still attention being taken away from the team and leaving openings for your team to make plays.
Yeah, that’s typically more of an issue with low rank namors who just throw squids out in front of their characters. I’d expect that to change as well though, depending upon the targeting.
Put the squids high up on walls/odd angles where they don’t get shot right away and hit headshots with his primary fire and you will see he’s very strong, plus he can go invincible for a good couple seconds to get out of trouble
Just the little chunk damage they do to divers is huge
I love how the time stamps aren’t labeled as what the actual names of the heroes are, really thoughtful and clever of you guys actually! Keep up the flawless and selfless content 🤡
U are a dumbass
Bro, if you got into a video, watch the video, think that he does this for a living, he needs to maintain a good view time, crazy that you can’t just click the time stamp and wait 5 seconds to view which character it is.
If that’s the case then make more helpful and entertaining content? I don’t know what you want from me, sometime being less worried about view time and saving someone 10 minutes earns you support. I must have missed when this content creator put a condom on or are you just riding his shit like that raw and unprotected?
I love the video. I’m a Warlock main. I’d also like to mention he’s REALLY good at clearing traps (spider mines, namor oct, etc) 😂
man im a new player who been playing for while but kinda just yk... ass at games and been having trouble with mains, but all i wanna say is thanks so much i always watch yo vids and i been planning to try a thor main so thank you again.
i find that rocket is now soo good. not sure where he is on the tierlist but i can feel his buff
Is Mantis still a top 2 support after the movement nerf?
I was a squirrel player before the buff the new ult makes it so back line targeting is insane and like he said she just farms ult charge
Music selection on this channel is so good. I need to hear some Sonic rush tho!!
Being a Spidey main (I hate myself) I really felt that blender line 7:30
Season 1 Meta
Tanks:-
1. Thor
2. Magneto
3. Venom
DPS:-
1. Winter Soldier
2. Wolverine
3. Namor
4. Squirrel girl
Healers:-
1. Cloak and Dagger
2. Adam Warlock
3. Rocket Racoon
For CD the ult now lasts longer while lingering on the ground also
Haven't played dps since before season 0 ended and today I decided to grind the event using winter soldier again after being a cloak and dagger main.
Thought I'd be rusty instead it was an instant mvp😂
Mained thor since the start in S0, glad to see he gets some much warranted buffs.
Wolverines shift ability needs some tuning. It’s way too inconsistent. Even in this video there were several times when it looked like a perfect grab and he just flies over the enemy
I found thor right when i heard he was getting buffed. Already my favorite character next to loki and sue storm. Im gonna attempt to get into wolverine bc of his bp skin
Thank you for putting some respect on Magnetos name.
So happy about the Wolverine buff he really needed that extra 50hp
I think they ushered in the tank buster meta unknowingly
They nerfed the 2 tanks with highest W rate
Buffed Winter Soldier to be more survivable. Meaning he has highest sustain against the tanks he's busting
Buff Wolverine. Which will lead to better sustain for sure
Buffed Punishers shot gun which was already OP against Tanks. Most people don't know it does way to much damage. It's issue was consistency. Which was directly buffed
Strats the will guarantee a tank kill
- Coordinated Wolverine Lunge into Shotgun Punisher
- Winter Soldier pull into any of the other two
- Solo Tanks diving a punisher is certain death since none of the tanks have high lethality outside thor
Yea winter soldier and punisher is gonna make it almost impossible to solo queue with a vanguard 😭 i still think magneto is gonna be amazing except against wolverine
Is Hela still a good pick?
Of course!
What were they thinking by buffing bucky as much as they did. Some of the buffs and nerfs they did don't even make sense.
18:28 and you know what else is massive?
Lowerrrrrrrr taperrrrrrrrrrrrrr fadeeeeeeeee
"i love freakin grinding Thor" PHRASING.
Cloak and Dagger were absolutely ridiculous pre buff and now after it they’re even better. Not complaining I main them and am eating good lmaoooo
I’ve seen a lot of inconsistent info over Season 0, do the team up anchors need the other members of the team up for their buff? I play a lot of C&D already, I’m not any more powerful with a moon knight right? I always have my seasonal bonus, but MK gets his invis ability when the team up is active? Thanks in advance if you can help me clear up the confusion
Yeah the passive 'anchor' buff, the stat boost, Is always active.
Whereas the extra ability that the other member(s) of the team up gets is only available when the character is on your team.
Yeah moon knight needs to be on the team for the buff. The anchors get buffs, and the others get another skill, if the team up has 3 people (like hulk) you only need 2 to activate
@@deathcorebunny2299 See, this is already different than the first comment. I’m pretty sure C&D gets the bonus regardless of MK, but it’s impossible to tell because you can’t see your own buffs in game. But Groot always has the bonus hp, regardless of if either rocket or Jeff is on the team or not.
"anchors" who enable heros with teamup abilities always get the buff even without their 2nd/3rd partner, so CnD as the anchor always has the 15% heal bonus
@@deathcorebunny2299No, the anchor buffs are active with or without the team-up.
I didn’t miss evaluate Wolverine. I have so many posts talking about he’s getting unwarranted hate and that in the hands of experienced people he’s S tier. No one wanted to listen. Until top players got their hands on him
He knows what he’s doing when he says “top people off”.
I don’t generally play as healer …but when i do i play rocket & really happy that he got buffed 😁
dat melty blood music at the start
Do you think strange is no longer a meta pick?
You have studied the game already this video is like a scientific paper
i always likes squirl girl unless they are playing an iron man. its not impossible to hit iron man its just more difficult to hit him with her then any other ranged dps. having to calculate the projectile drop over distance againts a really good iron man who is all over the place. is a real pain in the butt. but other then iron man i had no problem pulling out a squirl girl and kicking butt because that aoe damage is so strong.
I'm glad to see my boy Namor finally get some love
Yoo i watched this vid and have been spamming adam ever since. I used to play tank before but I’m loving the healer life. Adam is cracked you are so right
the patch been out a couple of hours and they already have a tier-list. RIDE THE HYPETRAIN la la la la
Putting the new season on a Friday really was a power move, no work just gaming all weekend
do you even feel the nerf to winter soldier's long-range?
Squirrel girl is sooooooo good so under rated but her ult was kinda um🧐🫣😵💫
No she's not.
Squirrel girl is phenomenal. WHO says different Just doesnt know how to Play her lmao
@ what lol
@ what lol
@@vibraniumsabervibraniumsaber i meant the Guy WHO commented that shes shit
saw you in a comp game and you instalocked duelist and was horrible lmao
Not seeing Cap on this list breaks my heart...
I may pick up venom this season, especially cause I want his Space Knight skin
cap still sucks. he's basically just a mosquito
I was already using wolverine a lot. I'll absolutely take 50 more health! I still wish his ultimate was better
Been a Bucky main from the start. We're eating good this patch
Buddy tripping with no Storm on the list. The thing is she was already good IMO & then got the strongest buffs!
That’s why as soon as I see a warlock I focus the whole match