BTS solo promotions: favoritism or proper strategy? (REACTION)
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As an older BTS fan, thank you for reacting to this explanation! It was so on point!!! I do realize there is a much younger generation of fans that are all about the numbers! I admire the awards and their global success, but I'm here for the feel goods from their music and performances! Your point about "the right amount of fan" hits the nail on the head! We are all diverse people and we need to respect each member for being individually diverse. I've always been gob smacked seeing all that talent combined! GREAT REACTION!!!💜💜💜💜💜
Thank you
Strategy of course. Each one has different type of listeners even inside of the fandom.
Dla mnie najbardziej oryginalna i ciekawa jest promocja V.... On wiedział, że muzyka którą zaproponował nie jest tak popularna jak pop, ale to co zrobił to mistrzostwo😁 jego występy na żywo to coś wspaniałego, na żywo brzmi lepiej niż z płyty😁🙂 Bts to zdolni ludzie, każdy z chłopaków zrobił dobrą robotę...
Zgoda,tylko dlaczego tylko jeden z nich jest promowany a inni są pomijani?O Taehyungu nie mówi się,bo BigHit oficjalnie go hejtuje. Hybe amerykańskie i koreanskie wydają masę pieniędzy na promocję dwoch członków BTS.
@@ewastawarska6351 powiem Ci tak... Nie chcę nikogo hejtować tu, bo mogłabym napisać dużo...(wiele razy o tym pisałam na innych stronkach) Oczywiście niektórzy są bardzo.... Ale to bardzo faworyzowani!! I wiemy o kim mówimy,... To że Tae jest przez firmę hejtowany, saborowany(w różny sposób) to też wiemy a Ci co zaprzeczają są jego przeciwnikami.. Nie umnieszam wszystkim chłopakom talentu...
O Álbum do V está impecável.
@@ewastawarska6351 Ewa myślimy tak samo...
@@ewastawarska6351this is the problem with army ,all of them where promoted with different strategies,jhope was on many shows he went to lallopoloza and was a headliner there,he threw a listening party with many famous celebs and had a coloboration with jcole which is the most expensive Collab than all members Collab,Rm promoted on this one show and mentioned that he did not want to be on many shows,v as u say has been on a lot of k shows including the ones Jimin did and also promoted in Japan,Jimin has a had a lot of promotional areas including the Jimmy Fallon show,suga was on a lot of k shows and in the us also he released his documentary on Disney plus,jin was only on kshows bcz he had to get ready for the military,and here u are worried Abt jks promotion which was in the us and UK with lyk 3min interviews while others were on interviews that were 1hr or more, honestly l understand u have favourites but u should not try to force the members to have the same promotions others enjoy talk shows and others don't
When J Hope was on the show with Suga he said HE was the one that didn’t want to make a physical album of Jack in the Box and Suga basically did an I told you so, Army wants stuff to collect.
They won't listen 😂😂
様々なMVがありますが、私の一番のお気に入りはティヒョンです。ティヒョンなら壮大な曲やポップな曲でも歌いこなせますが、あえて、Ｒ&Bの曲調に挑戦し私達にも聞かせたいと思う心が届いたように思います。私はティヒョンの声に惹かれました。また、奥深い愛情、優しさなもふれました。言葉巧みに話をする人もいますが、私は言葉少なく奥深い愛情が見られるＶがますます好きになりました。
bts는 진정한 아티스트입니다! 각자 자신만의 스타일과 음악성이 있습니다 비교하는거 자체가 어불성설. 그중 나의 음악 취향은 태형💜
bts🫅
Hay Armys que no aceptan que ya crecieron, deben dejarlos experimentar ya que es algo que ellos querían hacer hace tanto tiempo libertad en sus proyectos, ya vendrá nuevamente BTS para regalarnos esas canciones que también amamos, ahora hay que disfrutar esta etapa de madurez, la música es para disfrutar no para estar pendientes en números, ellos nos están regalando su escencia!! 😊💜🫶🫰
BINGO DT! Every member is special in their own way, their own style of music aside from being BTS. Whenever each member promotes an album or single I always pre-order them whether it`s 1 02 or 3 different styles. It`s my way of supporting them and letting them know I appreciate them for who they are and their artistry. They still have so much to give us and it`s only fair we give them the space to mature and grow as adults as well as artists. I can only wish each and every one of them health, happiness and blessings in whatever they do in their lives.
Thank you for saying that the solo projects are separate from BTS's work! I see this come up so much with Jungkook lately. They say the music JK has been putting out isn't him or that it's not the message BTS has put out. That annoys me so much because it feels like a lot of fans want to keep the guys in this box which is so unfair because they deserve to have the liberty to express themselves. BTS is made up of 7 members so it's obvious they have to compromise when it comes to songs and not everyone's ideas will be put in.
I remember on Station head someone told Taehyung they wished he had done a more upbeat song and his response was 'wait for 2025 when bts comes back' and I thought that was the perfect response. Fans really need to learn to appreciate their individuality and stop being so selfish. BTS will always be BTS so just let the guys have a chance to do their own thing. Sorry for going on a little rant lol this has been annoying me since this has been a reoccurring discourse on twitter and reddit.
Reading the comments from most solo stans in this thread just make me want to say boooo freakin’ hoooo. 😅
RM doesn't want to be interviewed by shallow MC hahahahhahahahha. how savage of him. i luv it
Understandable
She is absolutely right, and also I love how RM has introduced us incredible artists from Korea that I would have never discovered if it was not because of him, because they are not main streamers but they are soooo good!
So many solo stans in this space💀
Omg I am happy that you did this video. People faIL TO REALIZE THAT THESE GUYS GO UNDER THE GROUP BTS BUT THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS FIRST, THEY STAY TRUE TO THEMSELVES. THEIR MUSIC IS THEIR PASSION IT IS WHY THEY AGREE TO DO THEIR THING OUTSIDE BTS. RESPECT THEM FOR THAT. THEY ARE ALL TOTALLY AWESOME IN THEIR OWN WAY AND MOST OF ALL VERY HUMBLE AND THEIR TOGETHERNESS IS SO ADMIRABLE.
Почитав комментарии под вашим видео сделала для себя вывод: Не пытайся просить осла двигаться вперёд, ведь по природе своей он осёл (упрямый). Так и ваши комментаторы, хоть вы и показали замечательное видео с разбором всех сольных проектов ребят, концепцию которых они сами хотели донести до арми, так вот, бесполезное это занятие, доказывать "фанатикам", что нет никакого ущемления компанией кого либо из мемберов. Таким людям хочется видеть в одном из ребят жертву, которую все страются обидеть и которую надо защищать, жалеть, оберегать. Хочется спросить таких фанатов: Уважаемые, а вы не хотите узнать у самого мембера, нужна ли ему ваша фанатичная жалость, которая только унижает артиста. Каждый из мемберов это сформировавшаяся личность, причем личность с большой буквы. Каждый попытался донести до нас свою индивидуальность. Кому-то понравилось, кому-то нет. И это нормально. Мы люди и вкусы у нас разные. И это должны научиться принимать те, кто хочет заставить любить лишь их фаворита
I love your comment @user-jy7ss2it5g
BTS members are doing solo projects to express themselves and grow personally. It's not about awards or numbers/charts, but about finding fulfillment individually. When they come back together, their unique journeys will make BTS even stronger. 💜
That's it 💯✔️
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Because it is the companies job to pay for promotion so people know that artists work is coming out. Making on to charts or wining awards don't always happen.
@@nicoleloss7987 Correct just people don't understand what it means to be in the Music industry and all the different parts that make up the whole. Also we have to remember some so called 'paid promotion's the company will not do because they are illegal or are low brow media hype tactics'
The company handles the business side, promoting solo projects to the audience. But for the members, it's about personal growth. Solo projects let them express themselves freely, grow as artists, and fulfill their creative desires, adding unique flavors to their collective journey with BTS.
i will always trust bts and bts only... all the members always respectfully mention how they always thanks to the staff and company.. i dont trust anything outside that.. i will always support all the members.. and i will never be immatured ppl who want bts to do like what they want. let them be! u will miss them for 2 years😢
Don worry jin will be here soon
Yes we must
Each BTS member showed their individual artistry in every way. I loved the differences and variety!!!! Criticism about what and how they showed their artistry is pointless.
Each BTS member showed THEIR artistry! But JK showed the artistry of American producers! We didn''t see what he himself want to express!
@@greymouse718 Hopefully there will be some of his own work on his album. ☺
@@greymouse718I agree. He’s so much better than that generic pop, and don’t get me started on the atrocity that is Jack Harlow’s bars in 3d. Yikes
@@greymouse718 neither did Tae
Jungkook showed his artists. It doesn't matter if a artists writer their lyrics or not. It about performers.
BTS is that rare group where all the members could have successful solo careers. Very different but successful! Great reaction. Boracity has done amazing videos.
oh, most armys understand all of the differences and shift in numbers perfectly. solo stans are the ones who don't.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this, as usual you are on point and saying what so many of us feel. I wish more reactors would so it can be seen by as many as possible simply because this topic has been discussed and has gotten so out of control to the point of being ridiculous. The members have each said they are in control of the type of music and the direction for it, so I don’t understand why so many are going overboard with threats, crazy theories, protest trucks, etc. I love her vids because she’s not biased and uses facts to back up what she’s saying, now we just need video or a way to weed out the stupid cringey interview questions.
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Well said DT. The voice of sanity. I love the individuality of the solo projects and promotional events. I feel like I’m getting to know each member better 💜
I don't think that some fans understand what kind of power BTS have.
Remember that they own shares in HYBE and practically built the new HYBE buildings with their earnings/revenues.
Remember that some members said that even if they don't gel with certain BTS songs, they give it their all for the group.
Each member followed their preferred genre of music for their solo and look at the variety that we got.
ARMY's also have their preferences in music and biases.
Even countries have genres of music that will do better in their domestic charts.
Just because your biases didn't do well doesn't mean that they were overlooked. Unfortunately their style didn't work with some fans, or some fans just didn't bother unless it was their favourite.
The renewed contracts was a perfect smash in the face to doubters and people/shippers who spread hate on other members if their favs don't do well.
А сколько% акций у мемберов? Достаточно или этого количества, чтобы на что-то повлиять? И если мы говорим про разное продвижение, мы не жалуемся на музыкальные жанры. Жанры каждый выбирал себе сам. Мы говорим про продвижение на радио, рекламу, ремиксы, участие в шоу, интервью и защиту интересов каждого мембера.
Fantastic explanation, it was missing for many, All the boys have done great jobs They are all masterpieces, in their personal style And as you say, there are 7 incredible and authentic ARTISTS
I have also seen horrible comments, saying that they would not support them because they were sabotaging each other.It's ridiculous, because they have always supported each other and we see it in the documentaries and programs in which who have been present, keeping their mouths shut!!I am totally unconditional of BTS and totally a fan of the 7 Individual, I have a record for each day of the week, I love each one of them!!! Greetings from Spanish army mom 💜🫶
And yet ppl watched that whole video and still think 🤔 the guys were wronged but thanks for showing it though 💜💜💜
I agree, for me as ARMY i am along for the ride. I am enjoying each of the membera solo projects and supporting all of them. Before i even started listening to BTS i listened to many genres. So all the different sounds the guys have with their solos have been so fun for me. But when it comes to who is being sabotaged or who is being treated unfair. I ignore all that. My trust is in the guys and what they have said and what they have said many times is that they had a lot of control of their albums and their promotion. What they are doing with their music was to show another side to them and their taste in music that they can't do as BTS. They have also said to trust them. So that is what i am doing and supporting them the best i can.
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Each member did exactly what THEY wanted to do! They are all different people. Some do not enjoy tons of promotions or touring alone.
I want to add something that the video didn’t highlight about jungkook is how dreamers reach a REALLY BIG audience and diverse and unique that don’t know Bts or KPOP u don’t understand how BIGGG JK is in the Middle East really I know a lot of people who don’t even know Bts know him and call him oh the World Cup guy JK and u hear seven and 3D and dreamers everywhere ,because of him in Qatar they started to host KPOP festival 💜
That's true
That cuz send him alone and bush him instead of the band
@elham644 bts already announced their hiatus and fifa asked for jungkook specifically
@@angiesplaylist23 I am an Arab, and I attended the minister’s meeting when the announcer asked him, “Why didn’t you bring the rest of the cookies?” and the minister responded The company told us that they are in the process of enlistment. The company wanted to push him alone, and the host country is the one that chooses the artists. They wanted Shakira, but she refused, so do not speak without knowledge,
@elham644 lol hun they never said anything about jk being pushed alone. He's the only one who could pull that performance off alone especially with an all English song. The company did no promo, the song was announced days b4, the song credits went to bts instead of jk, etc. Jk has been held back all these years as the backbone of their music. Fifa and the coordinators specifically said they went to hybe America and hybe to ask for jk. And those ministers corrected themselves since it was misconstrued
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Bro you should know that :
- jimin wanted more mvs for his album but his own company refused.
- his own company gives him 9 days of promo for his first album debut.
- his own company decided to split like crazy two versions after reaching number one on global Spotify ( according to some fans who contacted Spotify ).
- his own company decided to not restock like crazy CDs after Bb new rules.
- his own company was shading him on weaverse articles when he hit Bb hot 100.
Before calling us solo stans ask yourself why r u defending the company + please watch Jimin got sabotaged left and right by mini space.
First off, the split on spotify- is spotify's doing. The company has no control over that and Jimin isn't the only one they've done it to. Yes, Spotify and BB screwed Jimin, but the only thing HYBE could have done...Would be to play by the American market ways- you know.. pay to win. Would you rather HYBE illegally pay for Jimin or any of the members to get more promotions and even to stay on number one on BB hot 100? I would think you'd have more integrity and pride in what the BTS members choose to do, and since they've never chosen to pay illegally before... why start now?
Le' Gasp, you mean people lied and said spotify told them the company split the song? Even though previously they've split other BTS versions as well? Or did we all forget about the Butter remixes? The Life Goes on versions? Like... did those get erased from people's minds cause again.. spotify has been doing this crap for years. And hey, if you're new here, welcome- Sorry you didn't know, but this is the sad reality and one of many reasons ARMY stream so hard and buy hard too. Because of companies like BB and Spotify who all are getting paid under the table to do what they do best- screw people over.
I remember the 'shade on weverse' article. And I remember combing through that article and looking for where the hell the shade was. The article, about a western artists. The Article that as it's subject was a western artist, highlighted that persons story and achievements. Yes, comparing them to the likes of BTS was a bit odd, and it I guess if you read it thinking or expecting the author who was paid to write about the artist would throw that artist under a bus and highlight how BTS members are more successful.... well then please do not go into writing articles for anything, really.
While I agree, it was pointless and tasteless to even compare him to any BTS member, it was done with purpose, but the purpose wasn't discrediting Jimin or anyone else. It was a comparison. And from the western world... where again... people pay to win, people who have good intentions end up getting used by their labels who pay illegally behind their artists back.
The company gave him as much time as they could, because of Yoongi's tour and things that were planned for that, way before Jimin was done with his album. Yoongi's tour was planned way before that. Tours have to be booked in advanced sometimes a year or more in advance. BTS has talked about this... they have to book a year ahead of time in order to get the dates they want/preferred dates. With Yoongi knowing he'd be going into service soon after, he had to plan in advance and Jimin knew this. He even said that yes, he asked about doing more MV's but the company said know because of scheduling. Jimin even said he knew they'd say no, but he figured he would ask anyway. He wasn't insulted or angry at the company for not being able to fit in more videos between he and Yoongi's slotted promotions and tour.
Boracity also explained why time was short for Jimin's promotions, yet Jimin still managed to do more promotions than any of the previous members, even with that short amount of time.
You're not wanting to be labeled a solo stan, but you only complain about Jimin's promotions and things.
Why not complain about V and RM's delayed shipments? No? Then by all means, please excuse us for calling a spade, a spade.
No one is defending HYBE, HYBE doesn't need defending. All 7 members trust BigHit and HYBE and if they didn't, they know damn well they could have walked and started their own company, but they recently resigned years ahead of time. And don't use the excuse 'they had to.' No, they really didn't have to. Stop making it sound like BTS are not able to make their own choices, stop acting like they're mindless puppets. If that's really what you think of them... you need to touch some grass.
Totally agree with you, Jimin deserves so much better.
@@ARMYnotArmy You shouldn't call urself an ARMY of BTS. Your main priority isn't BTS but to praise their company.
@@faizasamin13 My main priority IS BTS, so much so, that I trust BTS and their actions, theiir words. It's solo stans and antis who come around, and say the same dumb crap as you. You who is telling me I shouldn't be calling myself ARMY JUST because I'm not raising my pitchfork at a company that BTS trusts? Because Jimin himself has said and shown he has nothing against the company ? So because I'm not a mindless drone, because I understand the world, because I'm an adult with experience of the world... I'm not allowed to call myself ARMY because I don't believe into your anti BTS and anti company rhetoric?
I don't go around the internet making BTS seem incompetent of decision making, and incapable of standing up for themselves.
But by all means, sweetie. You continue claiming a false narrative so long as it fits your needs.
@@ARMYnotArmyahhhh, I love this. I've heard people say that they can't leave because Hybe owns the rights to the music and because it's very difficult to leave a label because of slander and mistreatment. Yes it's true other people have left their own labels and been horribly mistreated, but, they left anyway for their own safety and sanity. Yes it's true they absolutely do, however, members are part owners of the company so I'm assuming they own at least in part the rights of the company and the music. I may be wrong and I am completely open to being informed on that part. Also, another pretty popular kpop group left their label but still use the name of the group. Wouldn't the company own the name? Did they have to buy the name from the company? Once again I'm not completely sure. And so what if they own the name or rights to the music. Bts Members can absolutely buy the company out, buy the rights, or, if they were actually being mistreated, sue the crap out of them, but they didn't. instead they signed for at least another 7 years.
Solo stans can never be satisfied with any amount of promotions...
Thank you DT Parker for sharing this video though to the insensible it is again a waste of effort... our 7 gems love each other and we are here for all of them...
Thank you for reacting to this and boosting the signal of both the BTS members and Boracity Magazine. She's been called ARMY's reporter and I totally agree. She calls out the industry and keeps us honest.
Also, love your shirt - PH represent!
^_^
Thank you for this video, even though it will still go over some stubborn heads. There's no hate or competition in BTS ,HYBE allows them to have full control of their solos.
I will not talk about favoritism in the company; we do not have enough information to draw conclusions. but favoritism among the army is obvious, and there would be no problem, it is normal to single out a certain person for yourself. the problem is that armys hate us like solo stans because we only support one member. but in essence, we differ only from real armys (OT7) in that we are not ready to stream songs, vote and buy albums of all members, and we say this directly. but we all understand that there are very few real OT7s, I rarely see them in our solo fan communities, but I am grateful that they exist and really try to support all the members (you guys are amaizing 💜💜💜), and they are friendly and happy that we can help one of the member together.
True.. it all boils down to ARMY... Honestly, I don't blame ARMY because ARMY focuses on all seven of them and don't complain... All the focus and whines come from solo stans...
On the other hand, them capturing different audiences, different platforms will help them when they will do their comeback. Imagine you are a hiphop fan but havent heard jhope not until lollapalooza, or enjoying jack harlow but no idea about jungkook.. this is a winwin for the boys. They have a great strategic team i might say. They have different promotions, sure, but honestly we dont know what plans they’ve come up with behind those hybe doors. Nevertheless, all are doing great with their music. Let us all support them. Stream their songs and be positive!!💜
I love each members solo projects. Each masterpiece showcasing their individual passion.
agree on everything, take into account that if they as a group make decisions, imagine individually they also decide what they want or not to do, these are projects to their taste and style, we are used to the same way of promoting, thanks BTS, they always teach us so much, and we must learn so much, thanks DT
Não é bem assim não, pois com tantos artistas querendo colaborar com PARK JIMIN e essa empresa imunda não permite...claro, é prá não concorrer com seu favorito, que eu não direi o nome só as iniciais JK #faleitôleve!
Boracity Magazine nails the promotions in her detail explanation. 😊
I forgot to mention that I am 75 yrs of age and I love this whole group, they are so talented and I enjoy their music so there you go lol.
YES!!! Just Love💜Equally✌
Fans! Enjoy their talent!!! OMG!! ❤ It’s their personal favorite kind of music that they love. Just enjoy them! Fans who don’t agree do not really understand the music business. There Men now!!
So what Boracity is telling me is they choose their own promotion based on the songs genre???
How can this people say that this member Dont want be successful and other member want be so sucessful because one said it and other don't dose not make them less ambitious or anything they work hard for those years for it
Success is not just defined by chart position. You are projecting your own definition of success on each member.
That's what I'm most frustrated about. The whole vedio is made everyone more confused and angry because I understand the theme of the vedio but she didn't clear ant issues that people actually have. So, u just don't agree with the vedio.
@@jasonsu2086 yeah success is not just defined by chart and i totally agree as taehyung didnt get to billboard 100 top 1 he is still most popular member in the bts oh yeah not only bts but also in whole kpop
@@btslove179 Yet he did well in the places that liked his music he did well on the UK charts as did JK and Jimin for example. Difference courses for different horse's. as the saying goes. V did Well also in Japan where he promoted easily and speaks the language also so that was super easy for him.
@@eileencritchley4630 well im not complaining and yeah he did great as tae bias im proud of him as we know he is multitalented king He is bigger then kpop himselves ..chart is nothing and he is not greedy about chart but also break many records by his album if want he would have done different kinds of songs but he choose to do rnb song and i support him he really killed it ...
You know what's the highlight is ? I didn't get time to watch most of their promotional interviews at all. I just directly jumped into their songs and have been streaming them non stop, hopefully I'll find some time to watch all their interviews as well. But at the end of the day what is important is that I love all of their music, I'm really not kidding when I say I got introduced to most of the genres including hip hop only after I started listening to BTS. It wasn't appealing to me before but after listening to their music all of a sudden it became sooo much familiar. I guess that's their ART . They are unique artist creating all their music very meticulously, I hope we all can enjoy them and travel with BTS (both as a group and as soloists) for a very very long period. 🥰💜
That full analysis video was fantastic...DT your comments were on point! Not to be mean but some Army need to mature just like the guys are doing. Not one solo project is bad...they're individualized to each member. After seeing the solo projects their group projects are even more amazing and the group success is more understandable than ever. Only these superior level of individual artist could produce such a phenomenal group!
I remember Namjoon saying, that with their solo projects it would help them improve more so when they come back as a group they'll have more experiences and ideas.
Because they are promoting their solo projects, the way they want!!! They decide what they want and how they wanna go about it and they choose who to collab with as well!! So we need to stop that mentality! They do what they want, when they want! Period!
I am so happy for the guys. Their solos are amazing. I didn't cry and panic when they were going to do solo projects before military service. I knew they weren't breaking up. As long as they continue making solos AND BTS content I will be very happy. They are men and should be able to make whatever content they want. I support the group and I support them individually. They deserve all the best.
"The album is about growth not charts." Yes, it's about growth but that doesn't mean that an artist who stays up all night preparing the album doesn't want to have good numbers. That to me is an excuse for neglect.
That's just an excuse coz they don't wanna stream and so they can justify company's mistreatment
Im not saying this is not true i understand your point. I will say is BTS cares about the art first & so should Army. We should respect their journeys & also stream because we vibe with music & their point. All of us are different audiences we do not all like the same thing so numbers do reflect that. But I think we should stop the whining & spread the love of BTS, in spreading the art it won't be neglect. ❤
'They have nothing to prove to anyone' LOUDEEEEER so the ones at the back can hear you too cause ain't that the truth.
Love you, bora friend!
BoraCityMagazine is the TRUTH! She’s always so informative and insightful; she breaks it down, and tells it like it is! For any ARMY new or old that complains about promotions, BTS is not a monolith. They didn’t get to where they are by doing anything in just one way, they’ve experimented, tried new things, and grown as artists. That’s why they’re the biggest group in the world, so if that’s their approach to music, then their method of promotion is going to fit their projects. The whole “sabotage” theory is honestly laughable. Of course BigHit & HYBE would want BTS to sell as many albums as possible, that benefits them. Why would they limit any member’s project, knowing ARMY would buy it? Let’s all breathe, be rational, and know that the company, and the guys, are smart, and everything they do is intentional and well thought out WAY ahead of time. Stop complaining and let tge guys express themselves. They’ve proven thei talent for over 10 years now. Let them be artists and the recognition will come as it should…
I loooooove her channel!
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I agree with the video. They have their own individuality and have a say in how they will be promoted. Looking closely, they have catered to different parts of the world. Sabotage is a big word. Just curious tho why Jimin and V’s spotify numbers initially had a problem and as well as V’s Hanteo numbers.
Well... jimin said from his own mouth in an interview that he wanted MVs for all his songs. But he was told no by the company "that it was unreasonable". Yet we know another member wanted the same. And got it.
Jimin also said from his own mouth that he wanted more time for his promotions - past 2 weeks. But we know his promotions were abreveated due to yoongi's promotions/ tour/ enlistment.
These arr the facts on the ground people. We can speculate why (and ive seen some wild and frankly insulting speculations). But...these are the facts.
Have you ever heard of "budget"? You are so adamant on comparing the number Of MVs Jimin and "this other member" have.
Have you ever considered the quality and production of the both memebers' MVs?🙄
Jimin has never said that
@@nicoleloss7987 yes he did
Tae's MVs were sponsored NOT by HYBE. Remember the person who managed his album is not from BH. She was able to create an MV for NJ again by sponsorship. Maybe you should asked Jimin why he didn't received any sponsorship outside of BH/HYBE. Take note also on how the MVs were done. There's only 1 MV that there are other people involved. Rainy Days is Rocky the dog, Blue is just Tae, Love me again is just Tae again , only slow dancing involved other actors/dancers. For us is actually a compilation of the other MVs. All these were possible bec Tae and his crew used their brains on how to be able to create MVs by finding ways
We know it's true and I also know people are going to attack you so bad because you mentioned Jimin, bit I want to say my friend that people who love him , knows everything what happened to him. And about these people, they never going to admit weather you give them every single proof, so I'm just enjoying his birthday celebration by the whole world and the level of Celebration is happening for Jimin made clear that the world loved Jimin. I just hope that kind of unfairness didn't happen to him again. It's so hard for me believe me, but I'm just getting over it just this time. 💜🧡
I agree let them do o their solo album let them have their experience in making solo album we as army please support bts till end as for myself i trust bts please understand their decidion on making their solo album.
And someone here talked about extended there contract i wanna tell no member in bts will break the contract until or unless all members decide to change their company because they love each other as band members even if other members are achieving good they gonna be happy for them and kim taehyung is like that . He loves his band members care for them wholeheartedly.
Tae is also breaking records
The interview with Pharrell had nothing to do with Indigo. It was done before its release.
It is not right to say that V has 5 music videos and claim that this is a 'promo'. For Us is an edited version of 4 other music videos and the other music videos (except slow dancing) do not have a high budget. things that were easily pulled off, it was Taehyung who made it look rich. R&B is a music genre that appeals most to America, and this guy has no promos in America. Don't defend for the sake of defending. Both songs and music videos were released silently. Many people didn't even know when it came out. The man has no collabs at allt oo.
It failed to climb the Billboard charts bc of because it conflicts with the Seven which is pop music with america promo. In addition, the company put Lavover on the Grammy nomination list as a pop album, and it will not even be able to compete in the R&B category...
the company did not necessarily put layover up as an rnb album, the academy is the one who ultimately places albums in genre categories and probably gave him the pop label because anything coming from a korean artist is k-pop to the west, no matter the language or genre. i distinctly remember a western artist being publicly pissed that their pop album wound up being placed in an rnb category by the academy because they are afro-american, so the academy separated them from white pop artists. also, stop being delusional. rnb is not america's favourite genre in any way, shape or form. it's hip hop (by specific artists) and mainstream explicit pop music like seven, 3d and whatnot. the music video strategy worked for how tae wanted to promote the songs, did you even watch the video? 4 mvs or 5 mvs, that's still A LOT. why would he have any collabs on this album with relatively short songs? we usually love when they don't do collabs anyway. all bts youtube videos get screwed by the algorithm because of the discrepancy in views of the different artists videos on hybe's channel and the fact they don't pay for ads to yt.
His album is not rnb do you even know what is rnb
Rnb songs have ad libs runs harmonisation and all but his songs are not even vocally challenging so linear
@@lisalo9034 r u joking right 🤣 Even he introduced it as R&B while promoting album, even IU said it was R&B. Also... I know exactly what R&B is. Thanks for making me laugh. There is no requirement for R&B songs to have adlib and harmony, and there are a lot of R&B songs that do not have that way. Singularity is also an R&B song. Keep listening to American R&B songs pressed on Autotune. Not my jam.
Yes DT i agree its not the number or popularity all BTS member want to show each there talent who they are there song to show us or army what they are and what they want as a singer there kind of music there is no competition there is no counting of sale there is no jealousy who is popular all they want is to give army or not army the good music of there own so thank you for the good words so the fan realize there are no competion between the member of BTS all they want to prove there self as individual they love army or fans all over the world more power toyour channel thank you
Thank you very much DT! I competely agree with you. This video you watched was on point. I do believe that the company will never, ever put in risk their relationship with their top stars, and I think that they were pretty open to hear each BTS member and support them in whatever they wanted to achieve on their own. They are at a point, were they can do whatever they want, being succesful at it, they don´t need to prove anything to anyone anymore. They have basically said it before, Jungkook and Suga, they openly talked about how they do what they want, and the company don´t say anything and support them. The guys just renewed their contracts, they would not have done that if they were not happy with Hybe and Big Hit. Still it is a business, for the company and for the guys too. They earn millions for doing what they do, and they are pretty smart, they knowi what is best for them. So don´t come to me saying poor Jimin, or poor Jin... Jin will have enough work to do when he finishes his military service. And, how many albums did Jimin sell on the first 24 hours of its debut? Not a failure, not a falilure...
Case closed.
Jimin suga ile katıldığı bir programda 2 milyondan fazla kopya sattığını söyledi. Peki o kopya sayısı nasıl oldu da 1 milyona düştü??????? Ve hâlâ tt yapılyor çünkü albüm stokta yok .
So Jimin wanted only 9days of promo? When he asked for MVs but the company said" it's impossible". Hanteo sales were deleted. His CDs were not re-stock even if we constantly called for Hybe. Are these OK for you and still no "poor Jimin". Come on, let's be REAL!
Nobody is saying Jimin was a failure...like wtf lol. I don't even have an issue with only 9 days of promotion. What I do have problem with is Like Crazy single not being restocked one single time. It has not been available since a week after release. Sales affect Jimin, period. Not only monetarily but in the charts, and effectually for awards. Also, I have nothing against Jungkook, I love him to death, but he is being promoted by the company 100%, probably because of his star power. He definitely has it. His budget is undoubtedly insane compared to the other members. But I resent the fact that Like Crazy English Version was never promoted for radio play. It would have done well. It also may even had a better chance at winning an award or two because it is still not been lower than 3 on Spotify Daily Chart South Korea, ever. It goes between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place with Jungkook being his only competition. Jimin holds the record for the most consecutive days at number 1. Like Crazy is still charting on the regular Spotify charts after 8 months. The song and the album are very popular still. Even if Jimin's purpose for LC was not to be a "hit sngle", it's the fact that Hybe never even gave it a chance. And that is where the unfair treatment comes in. We all know how songs get played on the radio, so I'm not going to say it. LC would have done well is all I'm saying. And it's stupid to say, well they could just not renew if they're unhappy. Life isn't that simple. These guys have 6 other people who love them and rely on them, not to mention millions of fans. Case closed? Are you a lawyer or just play one online?
@@chrissy8136 Nice Chrissy👍🥰 I hate hypocrite people, pretending all is well but it's very obvious what Jimin had gone through. Yeah, they're not lawyers pretending to be one.😏
Hybe doesn't handle restocking of albums .
As an ARMY, All we could do is support and love the boys in their solo projects and as a group. We have to trust and believe in them and also to Big Hit/Hybe. I don't associate with people who whines and complains too much because you're just going to give me a solo stan vibe so you obviously do no trust and love them and obviously you are not an ARMY. I had dozens of encounter with solos and antis on social media and they are nasty. Very toxic people who think they know everything but I am glad and happy that we have ARMYs like her to create such informative video essays like this
She did such a wonderful job in this video and It is necessary. Some people just needs to be educated. That's all.
Thank you DT for this. 💜
For me, the layover stood out. It's an album that caught my attention from the concept. I was tired of minimalist things. The promotions Tae did were perfect. He showed his voice live, he proved to have a lot of vocals. But I really like indigo too. RM is an artist who stands out a lot.
nay. i do not believe there are favouritism in promoting their solo song/album. it all depends on who their target audience, song genre, each member preference to promote their songs/works. each member is different. thus, song promotion varies. i'm enjoying every piece of the song/album. if they were mistreated, they wouldn't extend their contract with HYBE
Yes
Totally agree
Obviously there is favouritism but cult fandom like u didn't understand 😂
@@faizasamin13or you are just dumb and didn't understand a thing from the video admit it😂
They’re literally owned by their record labels.
In BTS there is a lot of favoritism from the company and the army. Regarding the low performance of albums by members who don't sing pop, the army says it's because it's not pop music when in fact many artists are successful with rap and r&b songs. The fandom uses this as an excuse and so does the company. Even the Grammy submissions are all wrong. At most two members are in the correct submissions while the others are not. A clear disrespect from the company towards your work. They don't love HYBE but they love the group and that's why they renewed their contract.
Yes, they are successfull - but their numbers are lower.
Not to mention that numbers
a. don't always come from the core fandom
b. you are competing with GLOBAL numbers, not what is popular in the US
c. even if they see themselves as Army solos exist - what C_bars do for example we saw when Taehyung's tried to order over 800 000 albums last minute.
and certain genres are listened to more in the world at different places.
The company respects them plenty: you are the ones who DON'T.
Which is why Hoseok apologized for his choice NOT to have a physical album.
It's funny that you complain on the categories the members are submitted to - when as far as I can tell we don't know which ones they were submitted to. We only know the albums/songs, not the category (depends on the time period anyway).
Which doesn't mean that Scammy's will nominate them.
@@ruthfischer7615 And here you are once again making excuses, as always. Do you have excuses for everything and the numbers? low as always. This fandom is a joke.
@@ruthfischer7615 And the LAYOVER sales that his fanbase funded counted for ASIA. Unlike sales in the USA, which were purposely delayed to a day after the billboard counts ended. Even Target stores didn't have the album.
@@endrea Wooohooo what an assumption to make were your there in the meeting that said oh lets hold back the layover album? Stop talking nonsense. If something wasn't on a particular shops shelves by a particular date doesn't mean it was 'Held Back'.
@@endrea
Wow! The entitlement!
Shipping trouble can happen. Trouble with stocking can happen. There are quiet a few things that can go wrong. That is not a conspiracy.
Look for example at the newest NCT album.
From what I see they sold ca. 260 000 albums or something in the first 3 days. We are talking about a group that usually sells easy 1 million/ 1,5 million, too (maybe they will also manage 2 million - IDK).
Fandom believes it is because the albums are not stocked as they didn't get their orders.
But shops should have ordered them: so why?
It happens.
It may be that the places that make the physical CDs are not capable to create the volume of CD that are ordered. (my theory).
IDK
But it is a mass problem and not specfic to Layover.
Not to mention you seem to forget to enjoy his music - which is sad.
It's so beautiful.
Exactly 100% everything!!!
Trust them. That's all they ask us💜
And the promotions were not good for many of the members. And when I talk about promotions, I talk about creating remixes to increase purchases, I talk about promoting it on large playlists, on radio. The US company does nothing. She even delayed Tae's album and this affected the sales of his debut. Besides, he announced the album 5 days after it was released.
They were.
They were just not what YOU wanted. Look and try to understand what boracity is describing first before you complain.
Remixes work especially for pop songs - which is why they got them - and must be wanted by the member - so they were a choice made by Jimin and Jungkook for their music. The other members thought their music was perfect the way it is.
Watch some more of boracity magazine's video essays. She explains the music industry well. In this one pay more attention to the part in Jimin's section where she spoke about his "misstake" not to buy streams.
The video that is from is more complex but also fits with your question: these playlists have to be bought into. If the R'n'B playlist chooses to accept Taehyung's music on their list it is a choice made by them - but the most popular playlists? have to be paied for. You really don't want to know how many years it took for a rapline member to finally be on a Hiphop playlist not only a K-pop playlist.
Misstakes happen. That is life. And one person forgetting does not negate all the others who didn't.
But with his album Taehyung has a chance for a more longtime success album not the fast paced/short one of a lot of Pop albums.
The sales were not "delayed".
Taehyung's C_bar f* uped and ordered 800 000 albums as a mass (different plattforms) pretty much last minute which was not what those plattforms expected/had stocked for). The result was predectiable and meant that the numbers did not immidetly counted as only albums actually send out count.
Albums downgraded in numbers visibly this year: Jimin, Taehyung, Seventeen, TXT but also Exo, aespa, Stray Kids etc.
Newest BS - far worse than anything I have named: NCT 127 (?)
They sold a little over 250 000 albums in their first 3 days.
We are talking about a group that should have sold 1 million at the lowest probably more at 1,5 or even 2 million.
Fans believe it is because albums are not stocked. But this is very extrem.
It may just not be possible to produce the numbers of album the fans want.
But I do not see any problem when ordering since there are many places you CAN order from other than over weverse.
That's all paid for media hype and they don't do that not as artists and not as a company. As for getting into different music Genre lists that take's time and has nothing to do with the company that's all down to the streaming site management time.
I remember how long it took for the Rap line to be seen as being worthy of being put onto the correct catargory on Spotify.
Spotify are not that great when it come's to getting albums and individual songs and artist in the correct catagories. Never have been and some how I don't seen that changing much.
There's really nothing an artist or artist company can do about that problem either.
@@ruthfischer7615Thank you, but you're beating a dead hores
JK had that problem too... less radio plays, delayed cd release... frozen youtube views...and missing spotify streams... Good thing ARMY doesn't stop viewing and streaming...
@@julianne7397 correct it's happens to all BTS members solo work and their Group work.
Armys spent for month trying to convince people that layover is not pop so that’s why they don’t want to stream and now they’re saying it’s pop cuz they rather licked that company’s azz. amis and that company are his biggest antis fr
The members totally support one another 💯 regardless of who has more promotions, the fans will always love BTS💜
you said that it's hybe team that think about things like charts, sales and i agree with this but why is it okay for one member to get multiple remixes to chart better? fans just want for every member to get the same tools and promotion and by "promotion" i don't mean go and perform there, do variety shows. i'm talking about sending song to the radio, giving your artist a playlisting. one song by a member gets added to "this is bts" playlist right after release, while the other a month later after milliion e-mails asking company to do that. things like this affect their numbers. let's not act like they don't care because they do. that is why RM shared a picture when his album reached 400M streams. that is why jk say "let's go even higher" when reached number #1
Why do I compare it? Do you think vsuga jhope is less supported? Suga and RM collaborated with the most Western singers. V has appeared in a lot of programs and entertainment shows in Japan and Korea rather than overseas marketings. Jimin appeared on TV a lot when he was on LC. Rather, JK was 0 promotion in Korea and Japan. Hive assigned a solo in the fourth quarter, which was most disadvantageous to Jungkook, and then left it unattended for two years. He wouldn't have released a solo album without a scooter that recognized his star quality. It is wrong to refer to discrimination with a video made while keeping Jung Kook in check when releasing an album at the worst time.
Who is LC?
Each member has "sabotage" issues... But if you look at the boys, they never cared at all. All they care about is to make music they like, share it to the world, and SUPPORT each other. Solo fans clawing at each other while our boys are over there partying and being happy. SOLO ERA IS INDIVIDUAL CREATIVE ERA. Real ARMY knows this and don't engage in the hate. ❤
Love your comment 💜
I feel so bad when i think about the boys, how do they feel when they know that some armys throw hate comments to each other?
Getting worse bcs I read so many comments on TT, mostly solo stans, they said it's better if BTS just disband for the sake of their bias. Like, what??? That's crazy
@@silviaabidzar2901 That is the solo stans agenda distroy BTS as a group. Cut the members off from each other. Many of them aren't even fans of the member they say they support but are complete anti's who end goal is also distroy BTS and ARMY so they can then push their Kpop group they really are fans of.
All members actually had issues with lost streams, views and votes... but I think they're whining on why V had all 5 songs with MVs and Jimin only had 2. They don't know that V stans also whine about his videos being too simple while Jimin's had choreo and stuff... I won't mind anymore, it's solo Stan nature to whine 😂 ARMY just applauds every project ❤
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Variety is the spice of life..I love all the BTS members who are talented for many reasons..they killed every type of music they performed...can you imagine if every member promote their albums in the same monotonous way.. I simply loved all of them ..very good sharing in this ‘about time’ video ..looking forward to the 7 when they gather again! ARMY must be appreciative n must keep supporting them..
One thing, if some of you guys think it's so dissapointing that the boys didn't get the same "love" from the company about their solo promotions, (sorry to say), but i feel bad bcs RM's indigo didn't get the same "love" from us, who called ourselves ARMY
and V as well his album is a masterpiece yet the views are so disappointing
@@sarahomar8351
V album is fastest kpop solo stream album on Spotify .
Some people will never be satisfied with anything but see other members sucess as competition. It's just so clear.
@@sarahomar8351 they deserve better fans, fr 😔
@@sarahomar8351 V promotion focus is in Korea and Japan. I don't understand why the fans are complaining so much about V. If you think he got fewer views because of the less promotion, let's think about it. Hybe made 5 MVs for him more than the other members, attended IU's music reality show, performed in Inkigayo, and had Tiny Desk concert in Japan. Not to mention he attended many other reality shows that he also promoted his album. What more promotion do you want for him? Also, the promotion of the solo project is the member's choice.
@@2009idaz I never said anything about promotions did I?
I was talking about fans not streaming the boys' songs equally
nice one DT and i love to the philippine flag in your tshirt wow im moms army in the philipippines lastly i understand everything about BTS because they are unique individual and they are all amazing and adorable and gifted. i love them all
Mind you we still don't have "THIS IS V" playlist in Spotify and they just submitted his album under "pop" Category in grammys instead of r&b/jazz if someone still doesn't see how much they hate him you're a company stan
That is down to Spotify not BigHit/HYBE . Spotify like to classify it all as Kpop. Spotify took their own dam time before they finally accepted that the Rappers of BTS were able to get their albums onto the correct play lists.
It's a big problem and is a problem for other artist's as well. Not just our lovely BTS members. I was talking about it with one of my friends who's having just the same problem right now with their Music which is on Spotify it's in the wrong catagory and they are refusing to pay to be on Spotify created lists as well.
The Grammy are the one that are responsible for categoring albums not bighit. It is not the first time that the Grammys have changed categories they did the same with Justin Bieber when he released a R&B Album and his category was changed to Pop.
@@charitymudau3495 correct
Yeah, that's true. Respect them.
Some armys mostly solo stans are obviously un attentive they watch and listen to their bias but not actually understanding the message they want to deliver to their fans..
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I think the problem is y’all don’t understand when people call out favoritism or lack of support from the company. No one is talking about how they promoted such as world tour vs small concert, that part ofcourse is on the members. But deleting sales, not having enough in stock, not requesting proper playlists, these things are not part of strategy or part of the promotion the members chose, this is a problem from the company and that is what is being called out. How do you not produce enough albums to meet demand, isn’t that the whole point of pre orders? Be honest with yourselves, didn’t everything go wrong during layover? We were trending every single day and before you say it’s the fault of all those platforms, ask yourself what is the job of the company representing the artist then. Why would the fans have to be the ones to correct those mistakes? Till this very day, there is not “This is V” playlist on Spotify, it’s been a month since the album came out, mind you it is the company that requests that. Slow dancing cds and even the album had delayed shipping, a number of retailers did not get the orders or received them after 1st week chart tracking was done. You are not a solo if you admit something’s went wrong. Y’all say it’s a strategy, but what strategy is this? You say the members picked it, so the members chose for there to be delays? Come one guys, let’s be realistic. Calling out the company is not attacking the members, let’s learn to separate both. And also think to yourselves, why is it that some issues are only faced by some members and the others don’t face it too? Call a spade a spade and stop making excuses for the company, you Stan BTS not Hybe/bighit, learn to separate both.
I totally agree
You're complaint is invalid though. You do know how products like CD's /ALBUMS are made right? If so, please explain how V/Tae chose they type of album, put it all together, the materials used, the changes needed to be made for things like weight, shipping fees, concerns for the public.. and ARMYs who would be paying triple the cost if they didn't make changes, which means more time consumed, which can lead to the album being delayed for shipping. Speaking of shipping, then lets add in why shipping was delayed for not only V/Tae but also RM... whom you didn't mention but I think it's clear you're a solo stan so why would you be concerned with another member's shipping issues?
There are many things that hinder shipping, when your mom orders her favorite chocolates or whatever from another country, the shipping estimate is usually in block weeks.This is on many things- the trade deals, the shipping companies, how it's shipped.
Spotify isn't HYBE, stop projecting. HYBE can't do anything about SPOTIFY, BB, GRAMMYs, none of it is able to be controlled by HYBE, BigHit Music, or BTS.
You make it sound like you want HYBE to pay for BTS... oh sorry, for your favorite BTS member to win, get number one, be heavily promoted even when the BTS members don't want that, especially for their solo exploration? They've already talked about this- the numbers, they don't care about, they want to learn about themselves as individual artists.
You clearly don't know how things work, because if you did, you'd know the company can't control your complaints about the shipping. And Hobi already suffered because solo stans got mad about him not having a physical album, when that was his own personal choice. So they rather him feel upset than put their fucking pride away and realize the members are in control of what they do- not what things outside has control of. That would be like you getting pissed off because shipping was delayed because of weather. Are you going to claim HYBE can control the weather?
You claim HYBE is all about money- which is funny cause it's a company, they have to have money to function. I want to live in your world where companies survive off cotton candy and sprinkles.. ... Ohontsà:ke.... But let's say- yes, they're about making money (duh), then how can you think they'd jeopardize the people who helped make the company. The people who bring in the most profit, the most good will, the most eyes and ears and wallets? How the hell does that make sense to you?
Make it.. make sense...
Take a business course please. While you're at it, take marketing, and get into Production, because I think the only way you might learn how things work is by experiencing it first hand.
Yes, love BTS, support BTS. But just because you're used to 90% of other Idol companies screwing over their artists and being shady, doesn't mean every single company will be like that. PSY's company, sure, not perfect.. but better than most. HYBE, not perfect, but better than most. Don't stan the company, yes , but when shit doesn't go the way YOU think it should go, don't blindly point fingers either. Cause then you just look like a spoiled child who needs a good dose of reality.
Also, sorry if this came off bitchy. But as a pre-debut fan, people coming after BTS's company is nothing new. But at least try to make sense when you do it.
This video is just a waste of time it sounds like she is just trying to cover for BH/HBE. who is this person trying to explain strategies?
@@ARMYnotArmy This right here is why I can’t stand armys.
1) Y’all are incapable of giving your opinion without being straight up disrespectful. When someone shares a differing viewpoint y’all result to name calling. You need to learn to have a conversation or convince someone without being disrespectful, that’s what being mature is about.
2) Where in my original post did I talk about Hybe being all about money?
3) I will never understand why y’all jump hoops to defend Hybe so much. They made a ton of mistakes & were unprofessional with the way they handled certain members’ albums, admitting it won’t kill you I promise
4) I have also been an army for about 6 years and have supported them all, Tae’s album was just an example I used but you conveniently turned this into a “your fav” issue, that says a lot about the type of army you are
5) They knew about that album for a while before it was even announced, this wasn’t an album created overnight, so your explanation about materials and concerns for the public makes no sense. Oh and I have that album and the weight is quite normal, nothing to cause changes so try coming up with a better excuse
6) You asked me to take a class on business/ marketing? Honey I have a whole master’s degree, try again
7) Hybe is their representative company, they’re the once who send their albums for reviews, they request for playlisting. It’s their job to smoothen things out with different platforms, not the fans and sure as hell not the artists
8) I never asked for Hybe to pay for “my fav” to top the chart, that was never stated in my post but obviously you took the chance to say everything that was on your mind in regards to Tae and his fans’ complaints.
In conclusion, learn to have a conversation without resulting to being disrespectful to people who have opposing viewpoints. Get off your high horse and stop acting like a know-it-all. Stop jumping hoops trying to find excuses to issues that you know the company could have handled better. Lastly, stop being so egotistical army, this is the part of the fandom that really turns others off
I’m so sorry but this is such a dumb take. If any of the members felt mistreated by their company they would have spoken up about it or they would have left the company !!! You need to stop speaking over bts and observe their actions
As what BTS has been saying to just TRUST them as they know what they are doing. Everything they are doing is well planned and calculated.
I dont think there is sabotage. Bighit is giving them artistic freedom to promote their solo stages. People are saying V has no support during his solo era that is not true… Tae himself said he has own plans on how he will present himself as a solo artist and he has unique ideas how he wants it done and BigHit supports that and let him have free reign on how he wanted it to be and what variety shows he choose to appear. JK on the other hand is being practical.. he is a matter of fact kind of person… he understands when he needs outside help for promotion.. he knows writing music is not his strong suit so he finds songwriters who will write music for him and he chooses songs based on what he likes and what will present him as a kind of artist he wants to project… so no i dont think there is sabotage in any of the members.. why would they do that ? BTS is the company’s money maker..
Exactly the members have chosen how to represent themselves.
You are right dre, i have an issue on focusing on numbers and not necessarily the music and who it is meant for. Which is wrong cause all their music is awesome and i support every single track, which i think is what is important.
You can’t please everyone. BTS does it cause they love what they do. I love them because they love what they do whether as a group or a solo artist.
Thank you for this video and she intelligently explained everything ...
Disclaimer : This comment is quite long so if you don't like reading sorry x)
I'm here a bit late but I'm glad some people understand that it makes no sense for Hybe/Bighit to sabotage BTS or any particular member. Firstly, because they are the ones who bring in the most money and HYBE is a corporation so what would have been the point of sabotaging the artists who are the most profitable? Secondly, they have always been free to do whatever they want. Of course they have certain obligations but what I mean is that from the beginning they are the ones who are masters of their music not the puppets. Bang PD has been there to monitor and encourage them, advise them, etc. But it's not the big bad wolf who wants to control BTS. People who complain about all this stuff are mainly solos and people who don't want to listen to them when they speak. If they complain again in the comments, it's because they don't want to listen to what is said in the video.
In the end it's all a question of ego. I could, for example, complain that Jungkook couldn't release his mixtape JJK1 in 2019 because he had too much work for BTS. Which is not totally untrue given his role as a main vocalist but he said it himself in an interview on Weverse magazine in 2022, he wrote lots of songs that he deleted every time because that he was not satisfied. He's a perfectionist who doesn't believe in his talent and abilities despite the fact that he works super hard so he has skills and is super good at a whole bunch of things, especially in the world of music, audiovisual, visual arts and sport. He is an all-rounder artist: singer, dancer, rapper, songwriter, producer, director, photographer, videographer, painter, drawer, actor, photo model, etc. (not everything is official but you get the idea) The only thing that I think is really unfortunate is that he often puts others before himself but I can't change that. I'm just a fan who wants the best for his bias but I don't allow myself to say whatever I want...
As I have been an ARMY since December 2023, I felt guilty at one point. I also read comments from people saying that Tae was being sabotaged, complaining that Jungkook was highlighted while the others weren't, that real ARMYs listened to all of their songs without exception, etc. On the other hand it allowed me to discover great songs/raps like for example 'Wild flowers', 'Agust D', 'Daydream', etc. So I could have missed them if I hadn't been curious but sorry there are some of their solo songs that I'm not a fan of. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to be an ARMY, that I'm a solo stan, or that I don't support them individually. I've listened their songs, even several times, but I can't get along with certain songs and I think that's normal and healthy, we don't have to like all their songs without exception. It would also be hypocritical of me to say that I like them and then never listen to them.
Then when I started watching Boracity's videos, I felt a relief because she herself says that she doesn't particularly like certain songs and that's okay. It allows me to take a step back on several things. I feel less like a bad person... I know this will upset some people but for example I'm not really into Namjoon's new album. I really liked Indigo but RPWP is a style that suits me less, maybe by listening to the songs again I will appreciate them more but for the moment it's not really my cup of tea. By saying that I still feel guilty because it gives the impression that I don't support him, when it's quite the opposite but as was said in the video and as you said, they express what they want to express individually so it touches the public who is receptive to this kind of music. It's not for everyone and that's okay.
I agree that many seem more interested in numbers than music and artists. And at one point I also said to myself "why does this MV have more views than this one?", "why is this song streamed much less than this one?", etc. Then I understood that the songs that are streamed the most are those that have an MV and that are performed during TV shows, awards shows, etc. Yes, it's satisfying to know that they succeed, that they get awards, that they have so many millions/billions of views for their MVs but that's really not the most important thing. All I hope as a fan is that when they'll come back they'll still enjoy making music as much as before and that they will not get lost along the way, that they will not lose their identity. (this is what scares me the most)
The people who keep on saying the is no favoritism in how the company treats the members is because their fave has not faced any blatant sabotage and discrimination at the hands of the company.
If people would stop being subjective and remove themselves from the Armi bubble and look at everything that concerns BT5 objectively from the very beginning till now, from an outsider's perspective, you will see clearly who is favored and who isn't.
I respect your opinion DT, but your bias Jm, out of all the members, has faced suppression and sabotage at the hands of the company. The reason why people insist otherwise is because time and time again he has managed to rise above every negative circumstance. For me, I believe it is only by God's grace and the fact that this was his destined path, that's why despite everything working against him, he keeps on shining and rising.
Anyway, for me, I prefer facts over suppositions, and facts have shown me that Jm was never and will never be the company's favorite.
Because there is no blatant sabotage
I love them. I enjoy watching them individually Each one is very talented in their own way
it's sad some army are shallow and narrow minded I must say and its not this people can't understand but they just don't want to understand. I mean if you're a REAL ARMY you should know each of the member by now their personality their passion and everything right?! A true Army supports, cares, understand and just love each one of them and jst a SOLO stan. This solo stan are not Army cuz dome throws negative and bad comments against one member and co-army! If i encounter that kind of solo stan and blocked and report.
Your summary was so spot on. You really understand them and you’re a great fan. More people need to hear this. I see so many so-called army who don’t even begin to know how to discuss music
Yo creo que hay favoritos por parte de la agencia hay algunos que venden más que otros...hasta el fandom hace diferencias no podrían exigir igualdad si ellos hacen lo mismo.
This video was needed. I do not believe there are favoritism in releases. These are 7 men with different musical interest and goals.
I do believe number & charts matter to them, which is why some members acknowledge & celebrate those successes. However, the significance placed on chart success / stats would vary depending on the member & their individual goals.
Some fans get carried away, by focusing on the stats/ charts more than the actual product, and hard work of each member. Thus, pedaling negative narrative about other members to satisfy their own Stance on what they think members music & promotion should be.
Each member’s goal as a solo artist is different. These are 7 men with varied vision for their solo endeavors 🤷🏽♀️ we should trust and listen to the members.
Above all, They all support one another 💜
Bts members themselves said many times that they are in control of their own solo. They decided their own promotion and who they work with. Respect what bts say.
The company doesnt control them. .
Hybe is a multilabel corporation yes it owns all the labels but all of the labels work independently.
Hybe is only responsible for supplying resources, financial backing, and distribution deals.
The labels are responsible for artists mangerment, promots, scheduling, creative, and music production.
ALTHOUGH..I’m still angry that Jimin asked for more music videos and the label said no😭🧎🏽♀️will never forgive BIGHIT for that…Jimin even said it himself in an interview…so somebody better explain that😔NO HATE
And .... how exactly do you know that? People need to just keep quiet if they don't know for a fact.
@@carolcrooks7018 Jimin said in an interview that he asked for more mvs and was denied and he apologized for asking
@@carolcrooks7018 nellitap is correct
You probably didn't follow all the members solo album release and their promotion.. because if you did, you wouldn't miss that interview with Jimin revealing his request for music video on all his songs but got turned down by the management..He even humbly apologize during that interview for asking HYBE to allow him.
@@carolcrooks7018🫣Go do your research before trying to sh*t on people honey…DONT try me..not when it’s about Jimin and especially not 2 days before his birthday….YOU WONT LIKE IT. Thank you have a great day😊
True, BigHit and HYBE said no, because of the schedule which Jimin already agreed on. They couldn't fit it all in. Jimin even expressed that yes, he was denied but because of timing he had a feeling he would be, but.. he tried anyway. He knows enough to know, and while he wished it would have been possible, he knew Yoongi was pressed for time. Jimin certainly doesn't hold it against the company because he understood. While solo stans will hold their grudges because they don't understand- Jimin isn't upset about it. And he knows he'll have another chance if he chooses in the future.
JK has so many versions & all combined sure to win. Jimin’s are all counted separately.
yeah who can explain this? self called ot7 armies, can anyone explain this, please?
what a bunch of hypocrites!!!!!
yes. what a disappointment all these fans wearing blinders because it suits them not to see the truth. Bighit chose his JoKer over the others.
Did you not listen to the video. All 7 bts members have control over their own solo. They have said this many times.
@@nicoleloss7987 so you are saying that Jimin said "When I reach No1 on spotify, please split the vesions so I can not be No1?? Just confess you don't care about Jimin getting shit. This video did not even touch any of problems we have been rasing.
@@sacoskijust confess u are a solo Stan,has it ever crossed ur mind that he may have not wanted that,so u think his a fool who can not think for himself
I think the problem is, that people confusing calling out the issues the guys face with the whining about the promotion,,, because there was some serious sabotage going on with deleting views or missing up orders of albums or even crediting songs to a whole other artist which screw the position on the charts (I'm not naming a member cause this happened with almost all of them) army calling out these issues are not the same as the army not trusting the guys' vision.
I believe it is our duty as fans to call out when there's sabotage going on logistics wise.
Sabotage happens by the music industry (US, Korean etc.)
Which doesn't mean that a label doesn't make misstakes or that everything runs smoothly - because life happens - but that is not sabotage and usually whinning at a very high privilege.
Lets see for example what i just saw with the NCT 127 (?) fanbase:
They are under SM not HYBE but somehow their latest drop had in the first three days about 250 000 album sales.
Which doesn't make any sense.
The fandom complained that it is because there are not enough albums stocked.
As far as i can tell the sale should have been at least at 1 million or 1,5 million maybe more and finnaly at 2 million.
That is weird to me.
But this year alone album sales numbers were reduced among others Jimin, Taehyung, Seventeen, TXT but also Exo, aespa & Stray Kids (among many others).
(HYBE artists distributer is YG+)
So it may as well be that it is not possible to make this many albums as are wanted.
There is no sabotage logistic wise.
This is a genuine question... how does a music label delete views on a platform they do not own?
@@nuhkyah23 Answer they can't as they don't have the access but idiots think they do. Makes me laugh at their stupidity.
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They don't.
But if on the first official day of sales a fanclub like a C_bar massbuys a lot of albums (Taehyung's has bought about 800 000) that the places they order over don't have the stock to fullfill the orders.
As a result the official sale number is reduced to the one that is actually already in transit to be shipped.
That happened to Jimin, Taehyung, Seventeen, TXT but also for example Exo, aespa & Stray Kids and a lot of others.
@ruthfischer7615 but preorder gives indication about the amount they need to provide, we got like a month of preorder for Tae's album, same going on now with JK's, so as a supplier they need to provide... they did this before with the band albums and production wise the albums doesn't feel that much different material or size wise
V's album is the most successful kpop solo album till now ..... first soloist in the history to sale 2 billion copies in the first week first kpop soloist to chart all of his album songs on billboard and the success he made in UK charts without even promoting there ..... I didn't even want to talk about the charts he made the album for us to enjoy but you people really measure the success according to charts so i had to mention , and the haters are spreading the wrong narrative calling him flop because he wasn't #1 on hot 100 like seriously why we have to compare success to US charts.....and it wasn't his intentions either he is not chart hungry he said people who love music will love his songs and we loved it 💜....and his stans are also getting insecure and helping the haters to build that wrong narrative ..... please let them bark don't reciprocate just enjoy the music 🎶
And now layover is the fastest album by kpop soloist to reach 500million streams ...👏
Agree 100%! with you. All the solo projects are great..
I don't know if it's just me or what but I never really had a beef with hybe about each member's solo promos. Like I trust hybe that much to not have a single doubt because I don't see any reason why they should do that to the bread and butter of the company. I genuinely think that each member are still happy with how things work in the company and that there's still respect between hybe and BTS
True. Why would Hybe sabotage its biggest money-making individuals? If one member drops an activity, others support. ARMY knows this. 💜 For solos, there are 2 types: the ones who only focus on their idol and stream and buy merch--this is the good group. The other solos, the toxic ones, focus more on destroying other members than actually their own idol. Sad.
Because people are not satisfied with their faves careers. They want their faves to outshine the other. They can’t accept the facts that some members will not be as successful as the other. This is chapter 2 for you 😳
@@julianne7397yes
True
@@Kmeme2002why do u think they all won't be successful?! First, I want all of their promotions r in same level then u can talk about success. When their promotions r way different from eo then how could their success in same level??!!😅 R u dumb?😂
Si, tienes razón, ellos quieren crecer como artistas y esta era su oportunidad y creo que fue muy dificil, siempre lo dijeron, extrañaban a su equipo....asi que, aunque nos cuesta verlos buscando su propio estilo y en cierta forma nos preocupa que quieran seguir por su lodo,, ahora bien entiendan también a army...no ha sido facil todo este proceso ❤❤
this is obviously because of favoritism but army making 50 minutes video to defend this mf company