2 things I do not like with this match: 1) at 3:54 - 3:56, Riner gave Inoue a right hook! That is boxing. 2) That counter is NOT a koka!! IMO, that’s just a call by the ref. to luckily make Riner with the match.
Wow, a Korean poster siding with a Japanese athlete? That's a first. Of course, if Riner were Korean, you'd still be screaming that Inoue fairly lost...
stop saying bullshit, inoué has made the same mistake several times, he has gone under the high guard of teddy riner, learn the judo before making ridiculous comments! at least 3 penalties for this fault of head!
All that Riner did was spoil. No decent attacks, he just didn't want to let Inoue practise Judo at all. The decision was a disgrace to French refereing, it was a no score, but they were determined to give Riner the win. A shameful moment in the history of French judo.
Inoue was giving a real match and the judge just put a fake score to finish that match. You can't do that!! That wasn't a koka, i tough that Inoue can win, but Riner is pure Strength.and a lucky guy
I think maybe if K. Inoue could have broken T. Riner's right side grip and then applied left side tsuri komi goshi, he could have thrown Riner. Not easy yo do, but Riner's lappel grip was keeping Inoue at a distance, making it impossible to apply uchi mata.
Sometimes someone is so much larger than his competitors that he can win on physical advantages alone. Riner's physical advantages are so massive that it's almost like comparing men v. women. It's not his fault that nobody his size or athleticism competes in judo (most of them are probably in the NFL), but on the same token we cannot really say he's a skilled judoka.
For those who didnt understand what the French commenters were saying, they were pretty much talking smack about Kosei Inoue indirectly and not as offensively.
this fight was a real joke... Kosei with 15 kilos more would have competed much better.. JUdo should make categories of -110 killos and -120 kilo at least...
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi Kosei est rendu dans la même catégorie que Teddy Riner mais, à mon avis, il est un meilleur judoka que Teddy. Mais c'est impossible de faire Uchi Mata avec un gars aussi grand et aussi costaud. Il n'aura aucune misère à nous bloquer
French rich lobby beats other top Judoka. But there should be no racism at any cost, no matter if this was or was not legitimate Koka. It wasn't throw at all it was just a counter with no points. I would give Riner a Shido a long time ago. He is heavyweight and he fights that way. Kosei is Samurai :)
Tobogani.ba - If this is koka, in the Olympic semi-final (I believe), Inoue should have a koka against Riner in the overtime too. I was so upset at the refs and stopped watching the rest of the judo competition. This game is bought and pay for by the French.
There are many people in Japan who feel that they will finally understand what kind of people the French are at the 2024 Paris Olympics. What kind of people do the French people think of themselves? I would like to know.
Is funny that the same situation that gave an absolutelly unfair Koka to Riner that gave him the combat, was actually a shido for him because of the Kumi Kata, with no attacking. He just did a Tani Otoshi after Inoue's Seoi Nage.
Je m'ennuie des anciens règlements du judo avec yuko et koka. C'était tellement mieux que maintenant. Et, concernant le combat, ce n'était rien du tout, même pas un koka, voyons donc!
The man win 130 fights but it s just a lucky man.. you hate him it s all!! you have to be a bit objective and admit that c is a great judoka like Inoue, Yamashita and many others !! respect the champion even if you do not like the man!
Lantoreen Lanto he wanted to challenge himself, so he would move up from time to time. Especially since he won the All Japan tournament to crown the P4P best.
If they were the same size, Riner doesn't stand a chance. Heck, Riner would be an absolute nobody if he competed against people his size. This is basically Anton Geesink situation all over again - some half a century later. A European is just way larger than his better-skilled Asian competitors, and hence dominates.
I honestly can not tell that to Yasuyuki Muneta. I went and tried. Can not be done. That man is not legendary but mythical. I saw impossible timing on a counter on a kouchi gaki with a prepeared seoi nage and then in the next clip he goes in a hold with a attempted sasae tsurikomi ashi, lifts the opponent on him like some kind of front ura nage and then finishes sasae tsurikomi ashi like "Yea... That's my Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi." So many judo legends, and Riner will be remembered as a legend. For his legendary gigantism. Hah!
I don't hate him but i think Inoue is my man , far better a fighter than Riner but like life it was not fair , life goes on , just have to look upon and correct mistakes
Rachael Collins - If this is koka, in the Olympic semi-final (I believe), Inoue should have a koka against Riner in the overtime too. Inoue actually knocked Riner down but his back did not touch the ground; should be 1 pt and the win belonged to Inoue. I was so upset at the refs and stopped watching the rest of the judo competition. This game is bought and pay for by the French.
Todo aquel que respete la justicia y tenga respeto por el judo debe abogar por hacer que se cumpla lo correcto, incluso aún sea algo del pasado debe corregirse y hacerse público, enmendar errores y liberar la verdad, para no quedar aferrado a una mentira
Muy mal , localista el juez de la contienda . Teddy rinner siempre ha sido un persona limitada en el judo si no fuera por su fuerza difinitivamente no hubiera avanzado. El judo es técnica y fuerza
Pourquoi Kosei Inoue est tombé chez les poids lourds? (+100 kg) Le désavantage, dans cette catégorie, c'est que tu peux rencontrer des personnes qui pèsent 50-100 kg de plus que toi. Il n'y a pas de limites. Il a diminué ses chances d'aller aux olympiques à cause de ça. Mais, selon moi, Kosei Inoue est carrément supérieur à Teddy Riner techniquement. Mais Teddy est tellement imposant physiquement qu'il n'a aucune difficulté à contrer n'importe quelle attaque
Is the ref French? Or does he just live in France? What a biased and totally unfair decision. Inoue was by far the best even though Riner punched him in the head on the sly.
Si inoue avait le même poids que teddy et le même âge que lui , il aurait dit ce trouve en haut du tour effel sans crinper par l'uchi mata de koshei inoue.
Pour moi il n'y a rien , juste un avantage technique.Dommage que DAVID DOUILLET n'est rien vu ou n'ai rien voulu dire pour taire la polémique .Voilà pourquoi j'évite d'arbitrer.La chute est nettement sur le flanc avant gauche et fini sur le ventre .Au ralenti , je ne le vois pas poser les fesses à terre non plus...
It was not a score to me. Ce n'était pas un score. I would have liked a true score. J'aurais voulu un vrai score. If at the time, it was only to put the oppenent on the ground to win, i am glad they removed the Koka Si à l'époque, juste mettre son adversaire à terre était suffisant, je suis content que le Koka aie été enlevé.
ToyotomiHideyoshiGre - No, Teddy is not a coward. The refs are! This is the renewed French culture: cheating, similar to Greismann in Worldcup in diving, and 17 out of 20 rosters were born outside France.
Ce que ces clowns de "commentateurs" omettent conséquemment de dire, c'est que Kosei Inoue a toujours combattu dans la catégorie des moins de cents kilos, dans laquelle il a obtenu tous ses titres, en plus de ses titres en toutes catégories au Japon! Donc, il faut tenir compte de la différence de poids évidente, et donc physique, entre les deux hommes. Mais bon, les clowns d'anal + étant ce qu'ils sont... Quant au Koka accordé, il est des plus douteux vu que Kosei Inoue ne tombe même pas sur le flanc mais clairement sur le ventre! Mais bon, nous sommes à Paris, il n'y a rien de plus normal!
This a good representation of what happens every year in Bercy. Lots of french judokas winning matches...
No offense to Teddy he did not deserve that win
hell no
In all fairness; there was nothing there .
They just gave it to him .
The real winner for me is Kosei Inoue
En judo on ne remet pas en cause l’arbitre .respect .
maybe that is no score but Inoue didn't score ether
@@PA-yp6rw that is ascore dummy your are not a judoka
2 things I do not like with this match:
1) at 3:54 - 3:56, Riner gave Inoue a right hook! That is boxing.
2) That counter is NOT a koka!! IMO, that’s just a call by the ref. to luckily make Riner with the match.
It is not really a punch
He is trying to grab the collar form behind
And when Riner beat Inoue in Rio in 2007, was it also the referee's fault?
@@Asterisme nah, that was me farting.
I agree...no score and Riner much taller and larger than Inoue. He should be ashamed that he couldn't throw Inoue. Hail the king...Inoue.
ashamed to be taller?
How did Kosei Inoue lose? He turned onto his belly perfectly
Inoue the king
kosei is legendary :) my hero xD
rinier counter was no score
Wow, a Korean poster siding with a Japanese athlete? That's a first. Of course, if Riner were Korean, you'd still be screaming that Inoue fairly lost...
stop saying bullshit, inoué has made the same mistake several times, he has gone under the high guard of teddy riner, learn the judo before making ridiculous comments! at least 3 penalties for this fault of head!
In France judges and refs always favor French Judokas....
FALSE !! LIAR !!!
Is that why Inoue didn't take shido for passing the head under the arm two times?
石井慧が柔道続けていればリネールに支配されることはなかったのに
なんだこの審判。昔はこんな判定が多かった。
Koka ?? No way !!!
A sad finish to what should have been a great fight
All that Riner did was spoil. No decent attacks, he just didn't want to let Inoue practise Judo at all. The decision was a disgrace to French refereing, it was a no score, but they were determined to give Riner the win. A shameful moment in the history of French judo.
9:15 no score for that 🤣🤣 what a crazy scoring
what was that? Inoue was much better, I could not see any good point on the French side.
Inoue was giving a real match and the judge just put a fake score to finish that match. You can't do that!! That wasn't a koka, i tough that Inoue can win, but Riner is pure Strength.and a lucky guy
inoue was giving a real match ?????????? LOL dumbass
And when Riner beat Inoue in Rio in 2007, was it also the referee's fault?
Sorry, no score
El ganador es Kosei inoue!!!!!!!!!!!
no score here
I think maybe if K. Inoue could have broken T. Riner's right side grip and then applied left side tsuri komi goshi, he could have thrown Riner. Not easy yo do, but Riner's lappel grip was keeping Inoue at a distance, making it impossible to apply uchi mata.
Riner pure strength without judo skills at all. He fights like a white belt bodybuilder.
ΙΦΙΓΕΝΕΙΑ ΧΡΟΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΥ Is that why he went undefeated for like 3 years
PhillipinoGaming 7
+ΙΦΙΓΕΝΕΙΑ ΧΡΟΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΥ
Δεν βγαίνεις 8 φορές παγκόσμιος πρωταθλητής μόνο με δύναμη αγαπητή Ιφιγένεια. Χρειάζονται και άλλα προσόντα.
Sometimes someone is so much larger than his competitors that he can win on physical advantages alone. Riner's physical advantages are so massive that it's almost like comparing men v. women. It's not his fault that nobody his size or athleticism competes in judo (most of them are probably in the NFL), but on the same token we cannot really say he's a skilled judoka.
How to win the match by doing nothing....
Kosei is better the other one is just more heavy maybe 20kg more than other judoka and his judo is boring ,kosei you are the best
For those who didnt understand what the French commenters were saying, they were pretty much talking smack about Kosei Inoue indirectly and not as offensively.
井上康生もリネールもこの時は全盛期ではない。
二人とも全盛期の状態での対決が見たかったな、年齢差を考えると難しいけど。
Não entendi.
Houve um mero contragolpe e o japonês não tocou as costas no tatame.
No hay nada !!!!
Schichinohe got an Ouchi Gari against him that should've been a Yuko in Golden score in the 2014 World Championship but it wasn't counted.
koka?!?!?1
You can see the french money action behind this decision.
hahaha exactly my thaught
this fight was a real joke... Kosei with 15 kilos more would have competed much better.. JUdo should make categories of -110 killos and -120 kilo at least...
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi Kosei est rendu dans la même catégorie que Teddy Riner mais, à mon avis, il est un meilleur judoka que Teddy. Mais c'est impossible de faire Uchi Mata avec un gars aussi grand et aussi costaud. Il n'aura aucune misère à nous bloquer
French rich lobby beats other top Judoka. But there should be no racism at any cost, no matter if this was or was not legitimate Koka. It wasn't throw at all it was just a counter with no points. I would give Riner a Shido a long time ago. He is heavyweight and he fights that way. Kosei is Samurai :)
Tobogani.ba - If this is koka, in the Olympic semi-final (I believe), Inoue should have a koka against Riner in the overtime too. I was so upset at the refs and stopped watching the rest of the judo competition. This game is bought and pay for by the French.
There are many people in Japan who feel that they will finally understand what kind of people the French are at the 2024 Paris Olympics. What kind of people do the French people think of themselves? I would like to know.
The French kept a defense posicion for all combat, and the golden score it's wrong for me.
Is funny that the same situation that gave an absolutelly unfair Koka to Riner that gave him the combat, was actually a shido for him because of the Kumi Kata, with no attacking. He just did a Tani Otoshi after Inoue's Seoi Nage.
⛳️ 0:02
No koka...
저게 어떻게 효과 포인트이지?
裏投げウェーイ！
The real winner was Kosei. The real loser was Judo. Teddy Riner must be the most boring/spoiling Judoka to ever step onto a tatami.
les commentaires de l'amour
je comprend pas beaucoup de commentaire mais j'ai l’impression que les fan de Inoue ne sont pas content de teddy ^^
That was no score
The referee does not know judo. This is a miss judge....
clear koka, today it will be nothing but at this time, this deserve a koka.
بطل الجودو الياباني كنه جومارو مسلسل كرتوني(ايمي) اسطورتي هاذي الرياضه الفرنسي والياباني بهذي الرياضه القتاليه
Je m'ennuie des anciens règlements du judo avec yuko et koka. C'était tellement mieux que maintenant.
Et, concernant le combat, ce n'était rien du tout, même pas un koka, voyons donc!
That was bullshit!!! Full turn over before he touched the mat. No penalties on Rainer. JUICE
Wrong score
The man win 130 fights but it s just a lucky man.. you hate him it s all!! you have to be a bit objective and admit that c is a great judoka like Inoue, Yamashita and many others !! respect the champion even if you do not like the man!
Que JUEZ desicion localista. Gano Kosei
MUY LOCALISTA ESTA VICTORIA,,EN OTRO LUGAR DE MAS PRESTIGIO,,NO CONTARIA.
こんな戦いがあったなんて！！
すごい体格差…
Why changed Kosei Inoue to +100 kg? He was so brilliant in the group of -100 kg.
Lantoreen Lanto he wanted to challenge himself, so he would move up from time to time. Especially since he won the All Japan tournament to crown the P4P best.
Lol are you serious...? That was nothing.
that was no yuko pfff
これだからレベル低い審判は。。。
Dez à zero para Inoue!!
Tem muito mais judô!
Neymar tem mto mais futebol q o Cr7 tbm😂😂😂😂
Jamais koka sur cette action.Le grand vainqueur Inoue dans le jardin do et l'attitude.
If they were the same size, Riner doesn't stand a chance. Heck, Riner would be an absolute nobody if he competed against people his size. This is basically Anton Geesink situation all over again - some half a century later. A European is just way larger than his better-skilled Asian competitors, and hence dominates.
Tell that to Yasuyuki Muneta....
I honestly can not tell that to Yasuyuki Muneta. I went and tried. Can not be done. That man is not legendary but mythical. I saw impossible timing on a counter on a kouchi gaki with a prepeared seoi nage and then in the next clip he goes in a hold with a attempted sasae tsurikomi ashi, lifts the opponent on him like some kind of front ura nage and then finishes sasae tsurikomi ashi like "Yea... That's my Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi."
So many judo legends, and Riner will be remembered as a legend. For his legendary gigantism. Hah!
Where's the point
The difference of weight is so important.... Bad and ridiculous journalists not ashamed to obviously support Rinner
Pourquoi y'a que des anglais dans les commentaire ?
pour te faire parler 😂
That wasn't even a decent half point...
I don't hate him but i think Inoue is my man , far better a fighter than Riner but like life it was not fair , life goes on , just have to look upon and correct mistakes
Rachael Collins - If this is koka, in the Olympic semi-final (I believe), Inoue should have a koka against Riner in the overtime too. Inoue actually knocked Riner down but his back did not touch the ground; should be 1 pt and the win belonged to Inoue. I was so upset at the refs and stopped watching the rest of the judo competition. This game is bought and pay for by the French.
And then he celebrates THAT??
I thought I understood judo a little bit until I saw that. What was it??
Oh look, it's Teddy RinerrrrrzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. One of the most boring international judoka ever.
Juiz muito localista....
And when Riner beat Inoue in Rio in 2007, was it also the referee's fault?
No koka
Outstanding action by the referee 😂
Teddy só tem braço!!
効果はない。
それに、リネールに片襟の指導が3回はいっていてもいい。場外も2回くらい不用意に出ている。
この試合も七戸戦も原沢戦も終始逃げまくっていたが、こんなダサい腰抜けなチャンピオンは見たことがない。
同意。
逃げのリネール（二ゲール）って異名で後世に名を残しそう
二ゲールは草
terrible judgement....
Todo aquel que respete la justicia y tenga respeto por el judo debe abogar por hacer que se cumpla lo correcto, incluso aún sea algo del pasado debe corregirse y hacerse público, enmendar errores y liberar la verdad, para no quedar aferrado a una mentira
No score
trampa no era koha el ganador es kosei inoue
Inoue was far better
what the fuck was that
No koka fak off arbitre enoue King respect 👑👑👑👑👑
あれでポイントになるとか。効果廃止になってホントよかった。
Muy mal , localista el juez de la contienda . Teddy rinner siempre ha sido un persona limitada en el judo si no fuera por su fuerza difinitivamente no hubiera avanzado. El judo es técnica y fuerza
Pourquoi Kosei Inoue est tombé chez les poids lourds? (+100 kg) Le désavantage, dans cette catégorie, c'est que tu peux rencontrer des personnes qui pèsent 50-100 kg de plus que toi. Il n'y a pas de limites.
Il a diminué ses chances d'aller aux olympiques à cause de ça. Mais, selon moi, Kosei Inoue est carrément supérieur à Teddy Riner techniquement. Mais Teddy est tellement imposant physiquement qu'il n'a aucune difficulté à contrer n'importe quelle attaque
いや、この時代の柔道ならこれは効果あってもおかしくないよ。
Никакой оценки там не было!!! Засудили! Вот это действительность, так и продолжается сегодня!!!
Judo judgement in France is always favorable to French players...there is nothing to do...
Quel commentaire désobligeant pour le japonais ! Riner a un bagage technique très limité. Il gagne parce qu'il pèse 30 kgs de plus que ses adversaires
A Thedy siempre lo han favorecido . Solo es fuerza lo de el, nada de tecnica.
Is the ref French? Or does he just live in France? What a biased and totally unfair decision. Inoue was by far the best even though Riner punched him in the head on the sly.
Ref from GER, judges USA, LAT
Robo.
Si inoue avait le même poids que teddy et le même âge que lui , il aurait dit ce trouve en haut du tour effel sans crinper par l'uchi mata de koshei inoue.
Pour moi il n'y a rien , juste un avantage technique.Dommage que DAVID DOUILLET n'est rien vu ou n'ai rien voulu dire pour taire la polémique .Voilà pourquoi j'évite d'arbitrer.La chute est nettement sur le flanc avant gauche et fini sur le ventre .Au ralenti , je ne le vois pas poser les fesses à terre non plus...
ခြေထောက်ရိုက်ပြီးအနိုင်ရပွဲပြပါ
It was not a score to me. Ce n'était pas un score.
I would have liked a true score. J'aurais voulu un vrai score.
If at the time, it was only to put the oppenent on the ground to win, i am glad they removed the Koka
Si à l'époque, juste mettre son adversaire à terre était suffisant, je suis content que le Koka aie été enlevé.
What a biased decision! Kosei won easily, he did almost all the attacking and the so-called Koka was really a joka.
Teddy Riner was Cowards.
ToyotomiHideyoshiGre - No, Teddy is not a coward. The refs are! This is the renewed French culture: cheating, similar to Greismann in Worldcup in diving, and 17 out of 20 rosters were born outside France.
INOUE was better
Judgement sucks, Riner doest have respect to opponent!
Ce que ces clowns de "commentateurs" omettent conséquemment de dire, c'est que Kosei Inoue a toujours combattu dans la catégorie des moins de cents kilos, dans laquelle il a obtenu tous ses titres, en plus de ses titres en toutes catégories au Japon!
Donc, il faut tenir compte de la différence de poids évidente, et donc physique, entre les deux hommes. Mais bon, les clowns d'anal + étant ce qu'ils sont...
Quant au Koka accordé, il est des plus douteux vu que Kosei Inoue ne tombe même pas sur le flanc mais clairement sur le ventre! Mais bon, nous sommes à Paris, il n'y a rien de plus normal!