Woke is the past tense of waking. So to have awoken. So woke means Progress , Anti Woke would be Regress. Better to progress forwards than move backwards
@@joncullen5382 No to conform would be to join the masses out of peer pressure or social expectations and the like. Progress is not conforming at all pmsl
@@notreally2406 No lol woke is the word used to describe the past tense of being awake. Which means to be woke means to be awake on reality not asleep. Or in other words it is Progress. Woke Is progress. Progressing from a sleeping state to a one in which you are awake. So Progress is better than regress. Anti woke people are literally asking to go backwards like a bunch of idiots
...as Christ would wish. _"do unto others, until they do what you tell them to do. Why? cos you're totally more moral than those perverted heathens. You've got a book you've never read, after all."_ *~El Bible-oh* (the latin pronunciation.)
@@freddysw once upon a time it was just as damning to talk about NHS privatisation yet that is publicly discussed and well underway now. Voter suppression was equally as dangerous to mention yet JRM openly discusses how the Tories passed laws to suppress younger voters and again nothing. The UK is far closer to US style insanity than a lot of people realise
@@freddysw The DUP talk of those things and the Tories have withdrawn support in literature for abortion. They do it quietly because they know it's a topic they won't win on if it goes more public, unlike being racist. We have a long held tradition of being racist bigots in this country so they can get away with that one.
The breathtaking arrogance is quite spectacular. I hope one day she has a moment of clarity, she's probably never seen (or even denies) the darker underbelly of her own "perfect" nation.
It’s always interesting to watch people rail against “what’s happening in schools” who then go on to demonstrate that they haven’t been to a school since Nanny last took them.
Yup. No kids in school, no idea of the current curriculum, but very willing to blindly believe wild stories about sexual acts being demonstrated to 6 year olds and kids being told to demand sex change surgery as a fashion trend. And these people think of themselves as being of a higher level of intelligence than "loony lefties"
My big issue with "what's happening in schools" is that the food collected for "harvest" now goes to people in the UK instead of abroad That's not me saying that in a nasty way. It's me saying it in a way that's saying "Wait people are so poor in this country that they need food parcels." That's freaking ridiculous. Nobody should need food parcels in the UK Though instead of focusing on the fact that people have got poorer, they're pretending that schools are doing something else
Whereas the left is remarkable because it actually receives no funding at all and operates exclusively on the good will and time of those who support it's ideology
Absolutely. The whole goal of the right wing is to totally stupefy the population and destroy any remnant of critical thinking skills. Allows the corporations to evade any scrutiny.
The evil is clearly with the left abortion, redifinition of family, state over people who serve the state and it's values......what is red pilled.......the more important awakening to an objective truth
More like Murdoch, Rothermere, Barclay and lebedev. And now Bezos and I guess twitter doesn't count as news but people still use it that way so Musk too. Modern propaganda for neo Liberal culture & unrestrained capitalism.
@@SpenceJS87 Yes, that was my joke, in a 1984 style. But obviously that's not the case because regardless of whether you believe in the woke police, I'm pretty sure that we don't have time travel yet, if 'yet' is a suitable word to use with time travel :)
Listening to these answers I get the feeling that individuals attending this conference really want an American brand of right vs left politics in the UK even though they say they don't. They are shipping the talk points whole cloth from across the Atlantic. Free speech, what's being taught in schools. Also, this is a masterclass in not answering the question...
Our society has slowly adopted American principles, ethics, culture, trends..etc for a while now. Our political landscape is a very much undergoing that process although these days it's much less subtle than before. We are slowly merging ourselves as the 51st state and guess who's propelling us towards it. Yep. The same people who are waving flags and have their chests puffed up in the name of patriotism. How ironic and how incredibly sad.
Oh believe me they love it because they use it to rally against, all these little Tory right wingers, they're a farce, a disgrace and this convention of theirs is a cheap cabberet act, and it's a joke, it's not on pal, and I for one am happy to see more people waking up to see these money and influence grabbing scumbags for who they really are
@@johna5635 It kind of does when you listen to what they're saying. These are people easily enough swayed by very poor arguments and thinking that they attend a right wing conference of dunces.
Exactly. What do policies ever have to do with conservatism? They would never let a little thing like policy get in the way of their favourite pastime of culture war maintenance😏
“Woke” is used as an adjective by the right in the UK to cover a large of viewpoints with which they don’t agree, won’t tolerate and are determined to silence. As evidenced by the Public Order Act, which ignored Parliament’s decision not to give it wide-ranging powers and instead enacted them by statutory instrument so that any peaceful demonstration which a police officer may believe is disruptive (whether there is evidence or none) can be stopped and its organisers arrested. Civil society is being throttled.
So you reckon, in quite deserved mockery of pronoun bullshit I could put up totally made up types of pronouns on my email signature at work, and not end up getting a disciplinary for being "bigoted"? Please. Live in the real world. Plenty of folks out there have been "cancelled" i.e. lost out on work because of being anti wokery.
@@roryhand6650 Lets ask another question, if you went to work and started insulting your coworkers for their personal identity, mocking them for being fat or female, or balding and not in a friendly way they were okay with but with a determined mind to upset them, how quick would you lose your job? There is your answer, you might in quiet mock your colleague for being fat and say nasty things about how its their fault, once you attach your mockery to your social media profile you get fired for it and wow, suddenly you understand why you can't mock trans people. Just because you ideologically disagree with them and struggle to contain more than two pronouns in your tiny mind at the same time doesn't give you a pass to mock your coworkers openly.
they fled because they wanted everyone to follow their religion only got kicked out of england and holland before they ended up here. where they promptly started hanging people who were different or didn't go to church enough.. i would never hold them up as heros. they were horrible people. nothing against you of course. 😃
The term "woke" actually sprung up in early hip-hop and rap in the 70's 80's for waking up to things like racism and oppression and fighting back against it with intelligence, compassion and love, love how most people on the far right when asked what "woke" is their go to answer is "you know it when you see it"
@@ron88303 Just because someone mentions the far right, it doesn't mean that they are lumping all right wingers under that banner. You sound like a poor thinker though.
@@jonb4155 I don't dispute I'm a poor thinker. Irrespective of that, far right, like racist, fascist, transphobe, etc. has been turned into a broadbrush pejorative used as a preemptive strike against people holding opposing views. Of course, socialist, communist, woke, Far Left, Alt-Left, are terms also used. There generally is no recognition of moderates or centrists, i.e., no shades of grey who may have a contrary opinion on an issue; they are lumped into either extreme.
@@ron88303 you need to reassess where the right is mate, was it Dire Straights: the left becomes the right and the right becomes a wrong. Folk need to wake up to see what's occurring, read a bit of history, this is a tale as old as time.
I came from a traditional family who were both religious and I have spent years in therapy because of the trauma that they both and other family members put me through. It's about people working on themselves to be the best versions of themselves.Just because your married and are religious doesn't mean that your good people.
😂😂 Great comment! And very true. Looks like most of those interviewed have been out of touch with reality for a considerable amount of time. They are all locos!
I would say, also as a foreigner, they don't have secure borders, to block the Murican mental illness from spreading. Soon they're going to start celebrating the 4th of July and talk about the 2nd Amendment.
"This is an attempt to bring people together, to bring peace" at a conference funded by an American group whose efforts have contributed to the same US divisions she mentions prior. Anyone seen the speeches calling for said peace and togetherness?
@@ron88303 Did you miss Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker exhorting men with guns go into toilets after trans ppl? Did you miss her Nazi Barbie doll id? Did you miss the many self-proclaimed neo-nazis following her? Did you miss her deciding and telling the world that trans ppl shouldn't exist - despite their existence thoughout known history. Did you miss that she has made a whole career out of stochastic terrorism? Would you complain about any other group standing up against people who want them unalived?
Well, the state secretary, Suella Braverman, has called for peace and togetherness. Or at least she called for Torries to stop the infighting. In the same speach she went agains what she called for, and attacked half of her party. Words are cheap.
@@ron88303 she is also funded by the Evangelical right-wing American groups OP references, in her specific case CPAC. She's not an independent crusader for a cause, she's just been bought at a high price to espouse a message beneficial to her investors. High-ranking members of these groups have been caught admitting it's a cynical tactic to shift the culture war onto trans people, because attacking gay marriage wasn't working anymore. You can do the maths, or you can choose to ignore this.
I'm so confused about how and when we became this transphobic. Imagine asking to exist and getting this much outrage. I haven't really ever concerned myself with trans rights but the way its hyper focused on nowadays is nuts. How has people existing become such a big deal.
Sadly, now the Tories don’t have Brexit as their election winner, they are going for very divisive rhetoric and trans issues seems to be top of their list.
The trans argument is the same as the gay one years ago. They think by being more accepting it’ll produce more trans people. It won’t it’ll just allow more people to come out comfortably rather than hide in a closet of pain which is something these people do not like.
@Julie Levinge "A good definition of evil is «Militant Ignorance.»" - M. Scott Peck. They may be smart as pig manure, but they (edit) *know* how to get the job done… like Ted Bundy and Rheinhardt Heydrich. 😔
@@danw5760 My dear Dan … the problem I have is simply I don't think I*AM* vilifying them. I fear that I may, sadly, be being overly charitable towards them. 🙄
@@PercivalBlakeney are you being purposefully ironic? In your first comment you defined evil as militant ignorance. I would suggest that to not perceive that comparing those you disagree with to Ted Bundy as villification is ignorant, to a militant degree
@@danw5760 It's really obviously not 'extreme vilification' for someone to call these people ignorant. It is not particularly offensive, as offensive things go, and it is also demonstrably true. They have no idea about the things they confidently claim...you can check this by comparing the things they said with the reality of the things they were talking about. If being called ignorant for talking utter bollocks about things they have no idea about upsets them so much, the easy remedy is to get a clue or simply say nothing.
The irony of tories being pro free-speech whilst supporting one of the most pro-surveillance governments in a long time. The "Online Safety" bill looks almost Orwellian (aside from being completely ill-informed) Because we all know governments watching and regulating every move you make and every conversation you have does wonders for freedom
I agree but it's demonstrable that labour would be worse. That would clearly indicate that this is an issue that needs to be addressed in a bi partisan manner
@@danw5760 I'm not sure if labour would be worse, but I'd be highly surprised if they were much better. Our best chance at stopping the Online Safety bill would be to ensure it doesn't get in at all, once it is Labour won't bother to remove it assuming they even know what it is Same goes for the Investigatory Powers act
@@avalanche816 whether you like it or not, and I admit it is bizarre, there has been a complete inversion, the right is now genuinely the most prominent advocate for free speech. Many of the notions that underpin modern censorship laws ie hate speech derive from the leftist perspective. Any such censorship would increase with a labour majority undoubtedly
I actually thought he was the most interesting, and although I didnt agree with him, I would be happy to have a pint and chew over the issue with him. The others appeared brain dead or drunk on Daily Mail/Telegraph anti-wokery.
the pug thing annoys me i agree he shouldn't have been arrested but they always say that he was arrested for teaching the dog to to a Nazi salute, when he was actually arrested for repeating the phrase "gas the jews"
He seems to be fine with the chronic underfunding of education, classrooms in sheds, zero books, teachers on strike etc… just as long as they don’t acknowledge the existence of transgender people. Imagine being motivated to attend a conference with that as your focus after being in power for 14 years.
It's pretty incredible how 13 years ago a British state school was a better place to transition than it is today. Especially with those recent rules saying trans students aren't allowed to use the right bathrooms anymore - I _was_ banned from PE because the changing rooms were communal, but I was absolutely allowed to use the girls' bathrooms because they were individual cubicles. (And of course the other girls were the ones who tried to peek on me, not the other way around as some of them had suggested even while presently engaged in that behaviour themselves!)
Used by right wing C's as a negative slur about anybody who cares about anybody other than their own selfish selves or their immediate families and tribes they agree with.
I love how the right has desperately tried to redefine what woke means. To me, in its most basic form it just means giving a shit about other people as well as yourself. No wonder they find it so hard to understand.
I ask people if they know the definition. For those that say yes they do, I say "Well why exactly are you pro racism?" They say they're not. I tell them that it literally means to be alert to social injustice, especially against racism They really don't like it when I actually mention the definition.
@@waqasahmed939 This is a false dichotomy. Not being woke doesn't necessarily mean you're racist, it simply means that you're not actively aware of social injustices. This could be for many reasons, like thinking that racism isn't as pervasive and widespread as it is.
The unfolding disaster that is Brexit, high inflation alongside stagnating wages, surging interest rates, a lack of affordable private and social housing, a collapsing NHS, a crumbling national infrastructure including raw sewage being pumped into our seas and rivers and what's important? Wokery and what's being taught in schools around LGBTIQA
@@leehenry5764 The new Right (it wasn't always like this) have nothing to give but bleat on about traitors to the people, woke this, woke that, judges, the law, PC brigade, the left, the middle, unions, teachers, universities, remainers, an imaginary conveyor of demonized bogeymen. This is more than half the population. You'll be running out of people to blame soon and when you do you'll just have your thoughts in your head.
The inability to define something does not mean it doesn't exist, you are only proving the limits of ones language. Go ask an illiterate person to define his live for his family, when he cant you declare that he doesn't hold any love for them after all. There is a monstrous underpinning to this reductive approach to the world
There is sweet FA being taught in schools because the Tories have underfunded them for over a decade and the teachers are either burnt out or leaving because the pay is so crap.
Hearing the words 'being a great fan of Rod Liddle' spoken over a cool jazz backing track was not something I expected when I woke his morning. Top work.
What do you say when someone tells you a 'fact' that we know not to be true? eg. "I think you'll find a lot of people from the LGB community are going against the T". This is literally the opposite of the case. We've done research and taken polls and it shows that the LGB community are the people who most support the T. It's older heterosexual men that mainly have the issues.
The reason they are worried (actually, paranoid) about 'ideology' in schools is because they are losing the culture war of the future. Namely, younger generations are repudiating the aggressive, nationalist, libertarian ideology that Michael Gove and David Willetts brined the education system with in 2010. The realisation that it was all a complete con, putting millions into debt peonage from student loans (*set to go up further still), and teaching the glorification of a former imperial nation largely irrelevant to the identity of 21st century Brits, has done nothing to ameliorate diminishing career and life opportunities, or the ability to pay rent. The Tories play an unending game of bait and switch, political gaslighting, and poorly veiled contempt for the public. All the while, material conditions fall, and professional grifters go to conferences in which the content more closely resembles that of religious cults and superchurches than of healthy cultural renewal. They'll be remembered in the same breath as the flagellants in generations to come.
Modern day Turkey (pre Erdoğan) went through the same stuff That's exactly why the young Turks were so vastly different to the generations before them.
Don't ask them to define woke, it already has a definition: being aware of social injustice, essentially racism. Instead, ask them why they think being aware of those things is bad. Then sit back and watch 'em wiggle.
2:45 - if she's in Cambridge, you'd expect she'd have the capacity to know what a motte-bailey argument is, and that what she is saying is literally the prime example of one.
On the plus side, if there are enough we could banish them off to the US again on a big ol' boat just like we did in the old days. Considering they're infatuated with the place they shouldn't have any reason to complain :)
Woke is a word thrown around a lot by conservatives to describe anyone and anything they don't like. However it's also used to describe identity politics and those constantly offended.
Evidently wealthy people with clear upper-class signifiers waffle about every stupid issue other than why they are conservative: wealth disparity that favours them.
This is how people used to talk about gay people back in the day, i hope they come to realise how ridiculous they sound in the years to come when the social consciousness has shifted and this needless culture war has come to an end
Just walking down the street must be so stressful for these people. Getting worked up about things most people have never even thought about. BTW: "Could learn a thing or two from the US"? Yes, no guns please and the NHS (thank you all).
It should always be pointed out that "the Scottish comedian" aka "Count Dankula" was arrested for repeatedly calling the phrase "gas the Jews" in an on-line video.
Now time to add more context That phrase was used which led to the dog doing the salute. Clearly a joke and not incitement The joke being the juxtaposition between a dog and Nazis
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama Time for more context. No, it was when Dankula said "Heil Hitler" the dog was trained to salute. He laughing chipped in "gas the Jews, gas the Jews" while chuckling away.
The young girl had said the she doesn’t want what is happening in the US before saying that she wanted more evangelicalism like in the US, a country founded on the principle of separation of church and State.
It is incredible that when the UK is broken in all parts, these conservatives are talking about what matters to them as being what's taught in schools, transgender and family values. How disconnected they are from real life. What about the economy stupid. What about the NHS, the cost of living crisis, the 1% conviction rate for rapes or the fact we are paying the highest taxes since WW2. Talk about missing the bigger picture with small minded petty issues, they may as well of talked about pot holes. The other issue, as other commentators have put, bringing this crap from the US is the last thing we want. The US seems to be moving ever closer to another civil war.
This was very clever interviewing because it drew out strategies and motives that would be erstwhile concealed, out into the open and placed them on the record for citation. The 'modus operandi' of hard right ideologues is to package toxic undemocratic intentions into "benign and palatable" sound bites. But this style of reporting exposes the weakness of those who conceal a flawed argument with bluster but without being antagonistic. I noticed that the first guy was seemingly"Australian, the lady, American, and the other assortment from who knows where. Thus generating the impression that this conference was a kind of customs hall, set up to evaluate imported ideas from right wing autocracies. So much for so called "British values". It was never about Britain or British values. That's just a lable on a can of worms. No one laces poison with gall! But with honey to make it palatable and easier to swallow. It's still poison though. Anyone who warns them that they are listening to poisonous ideas gets kicked out unceremoniously as we saw yesterday.
At first I thought he was just trying to massively soften-up a working class London(ish) accent, but upon second listening with your comment in mind I'm definitely getting middle-class Australian.
@@enigmatwist6548 fuck em thats why... white American Christians are inherently more likely to be racist. proof you say? do you live under a rock? take a good hard look at America's bible belt.
@@Harry-rr4km yeah he more managed to articulate what they incorrectly think it means, when a simple google search would provide the correct answer for them. It beggars belief that not one of them thought about this at any point.
@JohnClark-ew8dh he was actually very clear and precise.. "a label used mostly by rightwing ppl to identify some ppl on the left".. there isn't some other more meaningful description we need.
@@Harry-rr4km You could argue that this was fair enough. The term woke used to have a positive meaning and has been claimed by the right as a stick to beat lefties with. He seemed to have a fair description of it I thought. It might have been vague, but as with Brexit when voted for, it didn't/doesn't have a precise definition I think.
I'm not even a Conservative but the nutcases on the right are the only ones telling the truth on biological sex. The left is towing a line contrary to science
God, I hope when I'm in my 60's my number one political cause isn't "what kids are being taught in schools about sex." Like is he worried they are going to grow up and do it wrong? But it does make for an interesting moment having someone voice concern about minors and sex while another conservative wants "more evangelicals like in the US." Like having more catholic priests around?...that'll help kids confused about sexuality😅. But really, in the US, the evangelicals are the ones that vote to protect child marriages and are pro child labor, but at least they aren't teaching that trans people exist. Right? Otherwise, they would all go trans as we all know already happened in the US. We're all trans now. Sure, there are only about 4000 kids on hormone blockers, but there can't be THAT many kids in a country of around 400 million.... maybe 6000...who knows? I mean it's obviously a huge problem when 4000 16 to 18 year olds are getting top surgery every year... oh sorry that cis kids getting boob jobs, which is hot, so it's fine...just ignore that. But... 400 of those are trans kids 16-18 getting top surgery each year too and thats not hot, so that's mutilation that they shouldn't be allowed to consent to it.
I always love the argument of "I have freedom of speech". It has literally never been a human right, freedom of expression has and it does largely include what we think of when we say free speech but hate speech has never been protected
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama any benefit of something like the 1st ammendment in the uk is already there. Anything the ammendment protects was covered during the european convention of human rights which was then enforced via the HRA. It is only since leaving the EU and pushing out of any european law that our gov has free reign to change what they deem our human rights to be since the authorative law is the HRA now and no longer the ECHR Edit: Also just wanted to note hate speech has already been pretty well defined compared to what free speech is. The European court of human rights did all the hard work for us with it tbh
@@jonb4155 no that's a flaw with the UK system Expressing a bigoted opinion is free speech Free speech is not just for people you like it's also for people you dislike
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama Free speech is not for hate speech. Even the US, system, broken as it is, recognises that there are limits to free speech. The real question is why you would want to use your freedom to shit on other people?
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Woke is the past tense of waking. So to have awoken. So woke means Progress , Anti Woke would be Regress. Better to progress forwards than move backwards
@James Pope, you mean conformity .
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@@joncullen5382 No to conform would be to join the masses out of peer pressure or social expectations and the like. Progress is not conforming at all pmsl
Woke is sympathy for the Devil
@@notreally2406 No lol woke is the word used to describe the past tense of being awake. Which means to be woke means to be awake on reality not asleep. Or in other words it is Progress. Woke Is progress. Progressing from a sleeping state to a one in which you are awake. So Progress is better than regress. Anti woke people are literally asking to go backwards like a bunch of idiots
"I'm a right wing Christian so I reject everything Christ stood for." 🤣
...as Christ would wish.
_"do unto others, until they do what you tell them to do. Why? cos you're totally more moral than those perverted heathens. You've got a book you've never read, after all."_
*~El Bible-oh* (the latin pronunciation.)
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”. ― Mahatma Gandhi
3:53 looney quote….
I was literally reading your comment at the time 🤯
The lord works in mysterious ways
The crusaders had more impact historically…
@@op3129 if Christianity is to have any future it needs to ditch the "Old testament".
"I think the UK has a thing or two to learn from the US" - possibly the most American statement ever 🤣
No party here is talking about banning gay marriage and banning abortion.
As that would be death nail to any UK party
@@freddysw once upon a time it was just as damning to talk about NHS privatisation yet that is publicly discussed and well underway now.
Voter suppression was equally as dangerous to mention yet JRM openly discusses how the Tories passed laws to suppress younger voters and again nothing.
The UK is far closer to US style insanity than a lot of people realise
We do have a lot to learn from the US. We can learn how not to organise a society.
@@freddysw The DUP talk of those things and the Tories have withdrawn support in literature for abortion. They do it quietly because they know it's a topic they won't win on if it goes more public, unlike being racist. We have a long held tradition of being racist bigots in this country so they can get away with that one.
The breathtaking arrogance is quite spectacular. I hope one day she has a moment of clarity, she's probably never seen (or even denies) the darker underbelly of her own "perfect" nation.
It’s always interesting to watch people rail against “what’s happening in schools” who then go on to demonstrate that they haven’t been to a school since Nanny last took them.
Yup. No kids in school, no idea of the current curriculum, but very willing to blindly believe wild stories about sexual acts being demonstrated to 6 year olds and kids being told to demand sex change surgery as a fashion trend. And these people think of themselves as being of a higher level of intelligence than "loony lefties"
This
What he said about both sides, feminists and transgender people, have rights and their needs to be a discussion seemed sensible.
@@MrMrlosteruk That
My big issue with "what's happening in schools" is that the food collected for "harvest" now goes to people in the UK instead of abroad
That's not me saying that in a nasty way. It's me saying it in a way that's saying "Wait people are so poor in this country that they need food parcels." That's freaking ridiculous. Nobody should need food parcels in the UK
Though instead of focusing on the fact that people have got poorer, they're pretending that schools are doing something else
It's amazing how exactly like the US Right they sound, which isn't surprising considering that the same ghouls are funding both.
Whereas the left is remarkable because it actually receives no funding at all and operates exclusively on the good will and time of those who support it's ideology
Absolutely. The whole goal of the right wing is to totally stupefy the population and destroy any remnant of critical thinking skills. Allows the corporations to evade any scrutiny.
Hazony and Bannon
The evil is clearly with the left abortion, redifinition of family, state over people who serve the state and it's values......what is red pilled.......the more important awakening to an objective truth
More like Murdoch, Rothermere, Barclay and lebedev. And now Bezos and I guess twitter doesn't count as news but people still use it that way so Musk too. Modern propaganda for neo Liberal culture & unrestrained capitalism.
'I'm probably cancelled now' - We have no idea who you are mate.
Ahhh, he’s been cancelled already and and no longer exists, it’s worse than he feared ;D
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@weswheel4834 The woke police travelled back in time and erased him from existence :(
@@SpenceJS87 Yes, that was my joke, in a 1984 style. But obviously that's not the case because regardless of whether you believe in the woke police, I'm pretty sure that we don't have time travel yet, if 'yet' is a suitable word to use with time travel :)
Listening to these answers I get the feeling that individuals attending this conference really want an American brand of right vs left politics in the UK even though they say they don't. They are shipping the talk points whole cloth from across the Atlantic. Free speech, what's being taught in schools. Also, this is a masterclass in not answering the question...
they want the American right without any left to fight against it.
Our society has slowly adopted American principles, ethics, culture, trends..etc for a while now. Our political landscape is a very much undergoing that process although these days it's much less subtle than before. We are slowly merging ourselves as the 51st state and guess who's propelling us towards it. Yep. The same people who are waving flags and have their chests puffed up in the name of patriotism. How ironic and how incredibly sad.
The whole event was set up and paid for by an American right wing "think tank"
Yes cultural Marxist in schools
@@leehenry5764 be specific?
Evangelism! 😂😂😂😂 She’s obviously got no idea how Jehovah’s Witnesses are greeted on the average to British doorstep
Or Jehovah's Witless as I like to call them.
They are different, evangelism and JW but there are some similarities as well.
Just answer the door wearing a blood donor T-shirt, they very rarely come back!
@@markmaher4548 Even better. Tell them you’re an apostate and to put you on the “Do Not Call” list. Than they definitely won’t call again.
@@dondoodat I call them Hovis and leave it at that
For people that don’t like identity politics, they seem to talk about it a lot
Yes. It is they that have brought that to the forefront of politics and news delivery. Not sensible, accepting differences, balanced people.
Tories are no different to labour that's why
“Let’s have another look at these bewildering transgenders” - closeted conservative
Oh believe me they love it because they use it to rally against, all these little Tory right wingers, they're a farce, a disgrace and this convention of theirs is a cheap cabberet act, and it's a joke, it's not on pal, and I for one am happy to see more people waking up to see these money and influence grabbing scumbags for who they really are
They also seem to be really obsessed with the white identity of Britain 😂
These people make you understand why you are not a conservative
Doesn't explain why some people are though!?
@@johna5635 Cognitive dissonance, cognitive dissonance everywhere
@@johna5635 if we knew what made them conservative we could sort the problem
@@johna5635 It kind of does when you listen to what they're saying. These are people easily enough swayed by very poor arguments and thinking that they attend a right wing conference of dunces.
@@johna5635 There's always going to be mental illness sadly.
‘I’m a Christian’ is a code for worrying about who other people sleep with.
The petite American woman is SCARY, we need to learn that America is everything that we don't want to be.
Exactly.
Petite
In the context of this conference, "woke" is a word they throw around to distract from the fact all their actual policies are utterly terrible
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Exactly. What do policies ever have to do with conservatism? They would never let a little thing like policy get in the way of their favourite pastime of culture war maintenance😏
“Woke” is used as an adjective by the right in the UK to cover a large of viewpoints with which they don’t agree, won’t tolerate and are determined to silence. As evidenced by the Public Order Act, which ignored Parliament’s decision not to give it wide-ranging powers and instead enacted them by statutory instrument so that any peaceful demonstration which a police officer may believe is disruptive (whether there is evidence or none) can be stopped and its organisers arrested. Civil society is being throttled.
100% perfect explanation
I said that before, it's a distraction. Forget about inflation and the cost of living crisis and focus on the woke boogeyman.
Oh look, he wasn't cancelled at all. We all got to listen to his stupid ideas and roll our eyes with derision. I wonder what we can learn from that.
So you reckon, in quite deserved mockery of pronoun bullshit I could put up totally made up types of pronouns on my email signature at work, and not end up getting a disciplinary for being "bigoted"? Please. Live in the real world. Plenty of folks out there have been "cancelled" i.e. lost out on work because of being anti wokery.
@@roryhand6650 - those are certainly words
@@danielcrafter9349 a veritable salad!!
@@roryhand6650 Sir, I respect your freedom to write total garbage.
@@roryhand6650 Lets ask another question, if you went to work and started insulting your coworkers for their personal identity, mocking them for being fat or female, or balding and not in a friendly way they were okay with but with a determined mind to upset them, how quick would you lose your job?
There is your answer, you might in quiet mock your colleague for being fat and say nasty things about how its their fault, once you attach your mockery to your social media profile you get fired for it and wow, suddenly you understand why you can't mock trans people. Just because you ideologically disagree with them and struggle to contain more than two pronouns in your tiny mind at the same time doesn't give you a pass to mock your coworkers openly.
"This is one of those questions people try to ask"
That is what a question is yes
Evangelist comes to England to influence the nation.
Did she not hear about why the Puritans fled to the USA in the 1600's. 😂
Evangelicals are the modern day Puritans.
they fled because they wanted everyone to follow their religion only got kicked out of england and holland before they ended up here. where they promptly started hanging people who were different or didn't go to church enough.. i would never hold them up as heros. they were horrible people.
nothing against you of course. 😃
1600s proving her point
the "puritans too crazy for GB" idea isn't taught in US mythology/propaganda/origin story.
at all. not even in college level courses.
*"How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape"*
Christopher Hitchens
The term "woke" actually sprung up in early hip-hop and rap in the 70's 80's for waking up to things like racism and oppression and fighting back against it with intelligence, compassion and love, love how most people on the far right when asked what "woke" is their go to answer is "you know it when you see it"
actually theres recordings of blues musician Lead Belly using it like 100 years ago
Just because someone is right of you (maybe even on a single issue) doesn't mean they are far right. You sound like a binary thinker, though.
@@ron88303 Just because someone mentions the far right, it doesn't mean that they are lumping all right wingers under that banner. You sound like a poor thinker though.
@@jonb4155 I don't dispute I'm a poor thinker. Irrespective of that, far right, like racist, fascist, transphobe, etc. has been turned into a broadbrush pejorative used as a preemptive strike against people holding opposing views. Of course, socialist, communist, woke, Far Left, Alt-Left, are terms also used. There generally is no recognition of moderates or centrists, i.e., no shades of grey who may have a contrary opinion on an issue; they are lumped into either extreme.
@@ron88303 you need to reassess where the right is mate, was it Dire Straights: the left becomes the right and the right becomes a wrong. Folk need to wake up to see what's occurring, read a bit of history, this is a tale as old as time.
I came from a traditional family who were both religious and I have spent years in therapy because of the trauma that they both and other family members put me through. It's about people working on themselves to be the best versions of themselves.Just because your married and are religious doesn't mean that your good people.
👍❤ well said
It's usually the religious ones that are either perverts or psychos....
As a Dutchman, when watching this my first thought is: "The UK doesn't have nearly enough secure asylums".
😂😂 Great comment! And very true. Looks like most of those interviewed have been out of touch with reality for a considerable amount of time. They are all locos!
As Dutchman who quite happy to sell his soul to immigration because dutch are weak
I would say, also as a foreigner, they don't have secure borders, to block the Murican mental illness from spreading. Soon they're going to start celebrating the 4th of July and talk about the 2nd Amendment.
Yes, that would be a great place to put the wokesters . . . along with all the migrants. Splendid idea.
@Ron Ohh, "wokesters"!!! Nice. So _you_ can _obviously_ define the term for us all. What _is_ "woke" Ron?
"This is an attempt to bring people together, to bring peace" at a conference funded by an American group whose efforts have contributed to the same US divisions she mentions prior. Anyone seen the speeches calling for said peace and togetherness?
I've seen a lot of trans trying to go after Kellie-Jay Keen. Pretty vile lot.
@@ron88303 Did you miss Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker exhorting men with guns go into toilets after trans ppl? Did you miss her Nazi Barbie doll id? Did you miss the many self-proclaimed neo-nazis following her? Did you miss her deciding and telling the world that trans ppl shouldn't exist - despite their existence thoughout known history. Did you miss that she has made a whole career out of stochastic terrorism? Would you complain about any other group standing up against people who want them unalived?
Well, the state secretary, Suella Braverman, has called for peace and togetherness. Or at least she called for Torries to stop the infighting.
In the same speach she went agains what she called for, and attacked half of her party. Words are cheap.
@@ron88303 she is also funded by the Evangelical right-wing American groups OP references, in her specific case CPAC. She's not an independent crusader for a cause, she's just been bought at a high price to espouse a message beneficial to her investors. High-ranking members of these groups have been caught admitting it's a cynical tactic to shift the culture war onto trans people, because attacking gay marriage wasn't working anymore.
You can do the maths, or you can choose to ignore this.
@@ron88303 lucky for her she still has the support of the neo Nazis
that american girl is actually mental
"I'm Conservative,because it makes sense"!!!???? What the actual F,13 years of running the country down and she thinks it makes sense
You clearly have zero understanding of what actually is conservatives
@@awokeawoke9636 Is that what the Tories have been doing, or have they progressively changing everything
The American girl is an actual ghost.
The ghost of Christmas past one would hope. The UK certainly doesn't need to learn from Evangelicals from the USA.
she thinks we can learn something from the U.S ? like what funding school shootings and giving the grieving parents prayers?
Prayers are like saying sorry after the fact.
And then reducing gun laws..
Texas is truly.. something
Maybe free speech or freedom of expression something we had until you Lefty's took over
@@Coelacanth1 And not accepting personal responsibility
I'm so confused about how and when we became this transphobic. Imagine asking to exist and getting this much outrage. I haven't really ever concerned myself with trans rights but the way its hyper focused on nowadays is nuts. How has people existing become such a big deal.
Sad to see someone from the older generation deal with their gender dysphoria in this repressive way, thankfully things are a little better these days
You Lefty's made it a big deal clowns
Sadly, now the Tories don’t have Brexit as their election winner, they are going for very divisive rhetoric and trans issues seems to be top of their list.
The trans argument is the same as the gay one years ago. They think by being more accepting it’ll produce more trans people. It won’t it’ll just allow more people to come out comfortably rather than hide in a closet of pain which is something these people do not like.
@@joetrent4753 so bizarre that people still fall for this nonsense, can’t believe trans people affect this guys life in any way, so gullible
What a clueless bunch!😂😂😂
@Julie Levinge
"A good definition of evil is «Militant Ignorance.»"
- M. Scott Peck.
They may be smart as pig manure, but they (edit) *know* how to get the job done… like Ted Bundy and Rheinhardt Heydrich.
😔
@@PercivalBlakeney extreme villification of others is a common aspect of political evil, now go read your comment again
@@danw5760
My dear Dan … the problem I have is simply I don't think I*AM* vilifying them.
I fear that I may, sadly, be being overly charitable towards them.
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@@PercivalBlakeney are you being purposefully ironic? In your first comment you defined evil as militant ignorance. I would suggest that to not perceive that comparing those you disagree with to Ted Bundy as villification is ignorant, to a militant degree
@@danw5760 It's really obviously not 'extreme vilification' for someone to call these people ignorant. It is not particularly offensive, as offensive things go, and it is also demonstrably true. They have no idea about the things they confidently claim...you can check this by comparing the things they said with the reality of the things they were talking about.
If being called ignorant for talking utter bollocks about things they have no idea about upsets them so much, the easy remedy is to get a clue or simply say nothing.
The irony of tories being pro free-speech whilst supporting one of the most pro-surveillance governments in a long time. The "Online Safety" bill looks almost Orwellian (aside from being completely ill-informed)
Because we all know governments watching and regulating every move you make and every conversation you have does wonders for freedom
I agree but it's demonstrable that labour would be worse. That would clearly indicate that this is an issue that needs to be addressed in a bi partisan manner
@@danw5760 Interesting. Please explain how it's demonstrable that Labour would be worse? I've missed something important!
@@danw5760 I'm not sure if labour would be worse, but I'd be highly surprised if they were much better. Our best chance at stopping the Online Safety bill would be to ensure it doesn't get in at all, once it is Labour won't bother to remove it assuming they even know what it is
Same goes for the Investigatory Powers act
@@avalanche816 whether you like it or not, and I admit it is bizarre, there has been a complete inversion, the right is now genuinely the most prominent advocate for free speech. Many of the notions that underpin modern censorship laws ie hate speech derive from the leftist perspective. Any such censorship would increase with a labour majority undoubtedly
@@avalanche816 He's a right-wing troll & not very bright.
65 year old man is very concerned about sex education. Really?
He seemed *very* interested in it, didn't he?
He never had any, nobody else should have the right to have some. I guess.
He was curious about the subject of 'pegging' 🤭
I actually thought he was the most interesting, and although I didnt agree with him, I would be happy to have a pint and chew over the issue with him. The others appeared brain dead or drunk on Daily Mail/Telegraph anti-wokery.
@Kevin Wells nah- he's intellectually dishonest- acting as if his lot weren't against all LGBTQIA folk
Socially and politically aware... Woke.
Socially and politically indoctrinated... Woke.
@@danw5760 The only ones indoctrinated are the Conservatives, a clue is in the name.
@@danw5760 And is indoctrination necessarily bad? From my view point We've been inundated with cis/het indoctrination for years.
@@icepee9252good lord now I have truly heard it all
@@danw5760 go back to sleep
the pug thing annoys me i agree he shouldn't have been arrested but they always say that he was arrested for teaching the dog to to a Nazi salute, when he was actually arrested for repeating the phrase "gas the jews"
"Conservatism needs a reckoning." Don't worry, darling, it's on the way.
Conservatism is dead because of the conservative party
@@leehenry5764 nah- it died the moment climate crisis became apparent.
You can't save the world by doing the same thing that is killing it
I see the one policy that they'd like to see isn't the closing of the tax loopholes. Surprising that!
Paying tax is a Christian service to mankind.
And?
UK trust laws are a key component in off-shoring money.
but instead "TRANS PEOPLE ARE EVERYWHERE" to distract
@@Coelacanth1 No, paying tax is a societal requirement.
He seems to be fine with the chronic underfunding of education, classrooms in sheds, zero books, teachers on strike etc… just as long as they don’t acknowledge the existence of transgender people. Imagine being motivated to attend a conference with that as your focus after being in power for 14 years.
It's pretty incredible how 13 years ago a British state school was a better place to transition than it is today.
Especially with those recent rules saying trans students aren't allowed to use the right bathrooms anymore - I _was_ banned from PE because the changing rooms were communal, but I was absolutely allowed to use the girls' bathrooms because they were individual cubicles. (And of course the other girls were the ones who tried to peek on me, not the other way around as some of them had suggested even while presently engaged in that behaviour themselves!)
More to learn from the US 😂😂😂 - yea but not in the way she thinks!
“Something to learn from the US” I actually laughed out loud at that it caught me off guard, what an unbelievable lunatic that person is.
Used by right wing C's as a negative slur about anybody who cares about anybody other than their own selfish selves or their immediate families and tribes they agree with.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
His policy is 'a good look at what is taught in schools'. We used to call that a curriculum, and I'm pretty sure it exists already?
Don't worry, academies don't have to follow it, and the constant tory policy is to initiate 100% academisation.
That Christian woman is scary AF! She's like a Stepford wife.
I love how the right has desperately tried to redefine what woke means. To me, in its most basic form it just means giving a shit about other people as well as yourself. No wonder they find it so hard to understand.
I ask people if they know the definition. For those that say yes they do, I say "Well why exactly are you pro racism?"
They say they're not. I tell them that it literally means to be alert to social injustice, especially against racism
They really don't like it when I actually mention the definition.
@@waqasahmed939 This is a false dichotomy. Not being woke doesn't necessarily mean you're racist, it simply means that you're not actively aware of social injustices. This could be for many reasons, like thinking that racism isn't as pervasive and widespread as it is.
"This is one of these questions that, you know, people try to... *ask*"
Wow, she's a real thinker.
That Christian girl is going to be in a real shock when she learns about how and when we went from a Christian to a more secular nation.
she also probably doesent know that under biblical ideals she is worth less than cattle.
Indeed. Apparently we could learn a lot from America. Is she taking the p*ss?!
@@Deathwish026 Also the Koran.
@@ron88303 Not relevant though.
@@django3422 Neither are biblical practices of ancient times which are no longer followed.
The unfolding disaster that is Brexit, high inflation alongside stagnating wages, surging interest rates, a lack of affordable private and social housing, a collapsing NHS, a crumbling national infrastructure including raw sewage being pumped into our seas and rivers and what's important? Wokery and what's being taught in schools around LGBTIQA
That's how the Tories hope to win the next election! Being anti-woke.
They might do it too.
@@ianoliver3130 Maybe. But I'm hoping even the most apathetic of our population can see that being "anti-woke" doesn't keep the country running.
Thank you PoliticsJOE for highlighting these people’s idiocy.
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Are these people supposed to be intellectuals?
@@clappedoutmotor Not at all, but you'd at least hope some of them might have an IQ that puts them above "intellectually sub-normal". Sadly not.
@@clappedoutmotor worse they think they are without any substance... as we just saw lmao
@@Gringos007 i.e. conservatives
Its really important these folk feel victim to something. Otherwise they have nothing to whitter on about.
Yep, continually seeking that which gives them the most to shout about. Work that one out. They just can't help themselves 😂
It's you Lefty's that play victim 🤣
@@leehenry5764 Oh dear....... the snowflake has arrived.
@@leehenry5764 The new Right (it wasn't always like this) have nothing to give but bleat on about traitors to the people, woke this, woke that, judges, the law, PC brigade, the left, the middle, unions, teachers, universities, remainers, an imaginary conveyor of demonized bogeymen. This is more than half the population. You'll be running out of people to blame soon and when you do you'll just have your thoughts in your head.
What does he think is being taught in schools? He's worried about a vague notion that he can't define...
The inability to define something does not mean it doesn't exist, you are only proving the limits of ones language. Go ask an illiterate person to define his live for his family, when he cant you declare that he doesn't hold any love for them after all. There is a monstrous underpinning to this reductive approach to the world
He wants s28 back
There is sweet FA being taught in schools because the Tories have underfunded them for over a decade and the teachers are either burnt out or leaving because the pay is so crap.
Thanks to you lot playing with themselves at 8 years old pedos
This is 2023 feels like 1492 and before, shout out from Chicago
Hearing the words 'being a great fan of Rod Liddle' spoken over a cool jazz backing track was not something I expected when I woke his morning. Top work.
What do you say when someone tells you a 'fact' that we know not to be true? eg. "I think you'll find a lot of people from the LGB community are going against the T". This is literally the opposite of the case. We've done research and taken polls and it shows that the LGB community are the people who most support the T. It's older heterosexual men that mainly have the issues.
The reason they are worried (actually, paranoid) about 'ideology' in schools is because they are losing the culture war of the future. Namely, younger generations are repudiating the aggressive, nationalist, libertarian ideology that Michael Gove and David Willetts brined the education system with in 2010.
The realisation that it was all a complete con, putting millions into debt peonage from student loans (*set to go up further still), and teaching the glorification of a former imperial nation largely irrelevant to the identity of 21st century Brits, has done nothing to ameliorate diminishing career and life opportunities, or the ability to pay rent.
The Tories play an unending game of bait and switch, political gaslighting, and poorly veiled contempt for the public. All the while, material conditions fall, and professional grifters go to conferences in which the content more closely resembles that of religious cults and superchurches than of healthy cultural renewal.
They'll be remembered in the same breath as the flagellants in generations to come.
Modern day Turkey (pre Erdoğan) went through the same stuff
That's exactly why the young Turks were so vastly different to the generations before them.
A close look at what is being taught in schools? It is the conservatives who have set the new relationship education framework (after year's of delay)
Don't ask them to define woke, it already has a definition: being aware of social injustice, essentially racism.
Instead, ask them why they think being aware of those things is bad.
Then sit back and watch 'em wiggle.
Being woke also seems to involve being pro giving children puberty blockers without their parents permission.
@@roryhand6650 Um no, that's nothing to doiwith being aware of social injustice particularly as it affects black people.
Then ask the hard left what a woman is and see if you can get them to agree to the dictionary definition of that.
I was thinking the same thing. Don't let them define woke to justify their hate
*squirm
The usage of the word has been so heavily bastardised in the last few years, it can basically mean anything and nothing at the same time.
And that’s the point. Nebulous.
The word just like the hatred for Transwomen came to Britain from the US in 2017
Thanks to labour voters
The transphobia in the UK is so depressing.
We need far more
@@leehenry5764 L
If I understood him correctly I think that chap with the Eastern European accent nailed the definition of 'woke'
"A great fan of Rod Liddle"!!! A most peculiar statement.
And his relentless fight against the SDP.
@@weswheel4834 Rod Liddle is an odious hack.
I thought that. Liddle is such a douche.
We've found him! We found Rod Liddles fan!
I knew there had to be one out there somewhere
@@FRU.No.1 I don't understand why anyone would be so keen on the ludicrous Liddle. I actually laughed out loud when he said that.
Evangelicalism in the UK can do one, dont need to add that on the fire that this country has become
It won't stick here-
@@Aarenby I thought we wouldn't end up having the trans debate take up this much space in the news but here we are
@@TheSambo95 good point-
So you can be criminal and gay👏
@@TheSambo95 yep. Complacency won't help prevent its rise, but vigilance might.
2:45 - if she's in Cambridge, you'd expect she'd have the capacity to know what a motte-bailey argument is, and that what she is saying is literally the prime example of one.
Never heard of that fallacy before, thanks for that.
She's in Cambridge not AT Cambridge
Absolutely spot on. 👏👏
Please keep putting these videos out.
If you really pressure conservatives you might get them to say _"woke means woke"._ No particular reference intended.
No, they'd say "go woke, go broke" when the opposite is often the case. I guess it's their way to cope
“Being a great fan of Rod Liddle”….. Crikey you dont hear that very often in polite society..
Also sounds like a euphemism. “Isn’t he a fan of Red Liddell?”
@@weswheel4834I heard he Rod Liddled his wife last Friday night
The Sun was best selling newspaper until recently so think again clown
The last thing the U.K. needs is more Evangelicals
On the plus side, if there are enough we could banish them off to the US again on a big ol' boat just like we did in the old days. Considering they're infatuated with the place they shouldn't have any reason to complain :)
I do love how everybody has a strong opinion on issues of which they have absolutely no understanding.
These people are talking gibberish.
They haven't got a clue what ' woke ' means !
Woke is a word thrown around a lot by conservatives to describe anyone and anything they don't like.
However it's also used to describe identity politics and those constantly offended.
When count dankula is your first thought for free speech, you got that brainrot.
Imagine being someone who opposes free speech, embarrassing
@@danw5760 imagine being someone who uses free speech to be a dick, embarrassing
a man who was arested for telling a joke..
I know, why would he be referenced in a chat about free speech.
brainrot right.
@@elcristoph7380 Was Dankula before or after the synagogue shootings?
@@Humannondancer why is that relevent?
Evidently wealthy people with clear upper-class signifiers waffle about every stupid issue other than why they are conservative: wealth disparity that favours them.
This is how people used to talk about gay people back in the day, i hope they come to realise how ridiculous they sound in the years to come when the social consciousness has shifted and this needless culture war has come to an end
Just walking down the street must be so stressful for these people. Getting worked up about things most people have never even thought about. BTW: "Could learn a thing or two from the US"? Yes, no guns please and the NHS (thank you all).
:) I read that as "getting woked up"
It should always be pointed out that "the Scottish comedian" aka "Count Dankula" was arrested for repeatedly calling the phrase "gas the Jews" in an on-line video.
Now time to add more context
That phrase was used which led to the dog doing the salute.
Clearly a joke and not incitement
The joke being the juxtaposition between a dog and Nazis
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama Time for more context.
No, it was when Dankula said "Heil Hitler" the dog was trained to salute. He laughing chipped in "gas the Jews, gas the Jews" while chuckling away.
WOKE the enemies of a right-wing politician it changes it has as much meaning as stop the boat means nothing its a noise like a grunt
So the conservatives stop peaceful protest .🤯
OMG. “The UK can learn a lot from the US” oh, my. About what not to do I assume.
Im a Tory! Because ive got maggot Farm in the cotswolds and daddy brought me a horse when i was 5 years old.
I'm glad the Conservatives are finally starting to dissolve into arguing factions.
Now we just need Labour not to for a bit.
Labour are not really fighting . Most are just keeping quiet and letting these Loons lose the next Election. Hopefully
..and to then reform the electoral system.
The young girl had said the she doesn’t want what is happening in the US before saying that she wanted more evangelicalism like in the US, a country founded on the principle of separation of church and State.
Youve got to love the mixture of different accents represented at the conservative conference
Very Diverse and Inclusive, oh sorry that’s the woke they want to cancel, er not “cancel”, ban?
It is incredible that when the UK is broken in all parts, these conservatives are talking about what matters to them as being what's taught in schools, transgender and family values. How disconnected they are from real life. What about the economy stupid. What about the NHS, the cost of living crisis, the 1% conviction rate for rapes or the fact we are paying the highest taxes since WW2. Talk about missing the bigger picture with small minded petty issues, they may as well of talked about pot holes. The other issue, as other commentators have put, bringing this crap from the US is the last thing we want. The US seems to be moving ever closer to another civil war.
The American girl probably isn't comfortable with homosexuality. I bet most of the dude bro Tories have no issue at all.
Their appalling ignorance, bigotry and self-righteousness sickens me.
This was very clever interviewing because it drew out strategies and motives that would be erstwhile concealed, out into the open and placed them on the record for citation.
The 'modus operandi' of hard right ideologues is to package toxic undemocratic intentions into "benign and palatable" sound bites. But this style of reporting exposes the weakness of those who conceal a flawed argument with bluster but without being antagonistic. I noticed that the first guy was seemingly"Australian, the lady, American, and the other assortment from who knows where. Thus generating the impression that this conference was a kind of customs hall, set up to evaluate imported ideas from right wing autocracies. So much for so called "British values". It was never about Britain or British values. That's just a lable on a can of worms.
No one laces poison with gall!
But with honey to make it palatable and easier to swallow. It's still poison though. Anyone who warns them that they are listening to poisonous ideas gets kicked out unceremoniously as we saw yesterday.
At first I thought he was just trying to massively soften-up a working class London(ish) accent, but upon second listening with your comment in mind I'm definitely getting middle-class Australian.
So no, no they can't.
they're all in their own bubbles following certain media that tells them things they want to hear, none of it vaguely connected with reality
Being in favour of ‘T’ is being in favour of human’s having the right to be who they are, without encountering prejudice.
' Traditional '' ideas '' of marriage, an idea is not a fact,
Thoughts and prayers UK!🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you for your nothing of worth and thing you don’t have
@@diskgrinder why the nastiness?
@@enigmatwist6548 fuck em thats why... white American Christians are inherently more likely to be racist. proof you say? do you live under a rock? take a good hard look at America's bible belt.
No thanks. Keep your Jim Crow thoughts in Amerikkk
The young foreign lad gave the most succinct answer I think, bravo
How is it the 1st foreign chap had the clearest definition of woke of all the ppl ive heard asked the question..
Wakes me wonder 🤔
I wouldn't say clear. He was well spoken and sounded thoughtful, but in reality gave an incredibly vague and non committed answer.
@@Harry-rr4km yeah he more managed to articulate what they incorrectly think it means, when a simple google search would provide the correct answer for them. It beggars belief that not one of them thought about this at any point.
@JohnClark-ew8dh he was actually very clear and precise.. "a label used mostly by rightwing ppl to identify some ppl on the left".. there isn't some other more meaningful description we need.
@@Harry-rr4km You could argue that this was fair enough. The term woke used to have a positive meaning and has been claimed by the right as a stick to beat lefties with. He seemed to have a fair description of it I thought. It might have been vague, but as with Brexit when voted for, it didn't/doesn't have a precise definition I think.
@@DJWESG1 well aside from the fact that his description was wrong, yeah
''Woke''
People are making me think about how I act and speak (and I don't like it)
That is easy. It is past verb of word wake.
Alternative video title idea for more views: “Conservatives OWNED with facts and logic, can’t answer simple questions!”=)
I'm not even a Conservative but the nutcases on the right are the only ones telling the truth on biological sex. The left is towing a line contrary to science
Sounds like the kind of moronic shite you'd see in a right-wing pundit's vid title tbh
It is a term used by tossers to define or describe other tossers.
That woman scares me 😬😬😬
It's like watching Jordan Klepper fingers the pulse, but without the intentional satire 😬
They say they're going to get canceled but aren't important enough to be canceled...
"I am the main character!"
This is terrifying. I hope i never encounter any of these people. Part of me thinks they are just sexually frustrated.
God, I hope when I'm in my 60's my number one political cause isn't "what kids are being taught in schools about sex." Like is he worried they are going to grow up and do it wrong?
But it does make for an interesting moment having someone voice concern about minors and sex while another conservative wants "more evangelicals like in the US." Like having more catholic priests around?...that'll help kids confused about sexuality😅.
But really, in the US, the evangelicals are the ones that vote to protect child marriages and are pro child labor, but at least they aren't teaching that trans people exist. Right? Otherwise, they would all go trans as we all know already happened in the US. We're all trans now. Sure, there are only about 4000 kids on hormone blockers, but there can't be THAT many kids in a country of around 400 million.... maybe 6000...who knows? I mean it's obviously a huge problem when 4000 16 to 18 year olds are getting top surgery every year... oh sorry that cis kids getting boob jobs, which is hot, so it's fine...just ignore that. But... 400 of those are trans kids 16-18 getting top surgery each year too and thats not hot, so that's mutilation that they shouldn't be allowed to consent to it.
I love the recognition of the vastly different standards being applied to cis people going for the same/equivalent surgeries.
Well said. The toxic consumerist culture is the real problem and one that has yet to be adressed by anyone in mainstream politics
I always love the argument of "I have freedom of speech". It has literally never been a human right, freedom of expression has and it does largely include what we think of when we say free speech but hate speech has never been protected
Many things considered hate speech would be free speech in the US
We need something like a first amendment
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama any benefit of something like the 1st ammendment in the uk is already there. Anything the ammendment protects was covered during the european convention of human rights which was then enforced via the HRA. It is only since leaving the EU and pushing out of any european law that our gov has free reign to change what they deem our human rights to be since the authorative law is the HRA now and no longer the ECHR
Edit: Also just wanted to note hate speech has already been pretty well defined compared to what free speech is. The European court of human rights did all the hard work for us with it tbh
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama That's a flaw with the US system, not ours.
@@jonb4155 no that's a flaw with the UK system
Expressing a bigoted opinion is free speech
Free speech is not just for people you like it's also for people you dislike
@@CriticalCommentatorDrama Free speech is not for hate speech. Even the US, system, broken as it is, recognises that there are limits to free speech.
The real question is why you would want to use your freedom to shit on other people?
Because things in America are going so swimmingly? These people are beyond the pale.
Ask them which party has just put a big question mark of protest, and how does that fit in with there freedom of speech ideal.
"I have no clue and neither has anyone of my fellow conspiracy theorists but that does not mean we could not keep claiming it was the top issue in this country!" Fixed that for you, you're welcome.