@@PABWECGNancy is ok, but she can be so annoyingly self-righteous. Like girl you are not saint. Stay out of people's business and deal with your own messy life
That last bit ALWAYS gets to me. Craig just wants a bit of comfort from his mother and she thinks he's upset over Sarah. The whole situation has been bad but I think the biggest thing he's upset about now is the fact that no one understands his feelings for John Paul.
The way Craig/Guy says "John Paul" is so beautiful for some reason. So proud of Craig in this episode. I think it's the moment in his relationship with John Paul when he's the most courageous, even more than when he returns to take John Paul away with him. He decides that John Paul is worth more to him than his relationship with Sarah, the approval of his family or being comfortable in heteronormative society. After months and months of him being dilatory and cowardly this is cathartic.
I think the hardest part about watching these last few episodes is that everybody acts like Craig liking another guy is the worst thing that could possibly happen to THEM. Sure, it came out in a really horrible way, but people need to get their priorities straight.
Yeah time difference. Although it was still an amazingly progressive storyline for 2007. I just wish Craig could’ve been bi or pan or something else, instead of everyone saying he has to be either gay or straight.
watching this show, i always sort of thought that craig loved sarah more as a friend than as a love interest, but was just afraid to think that way because he didn't want to be gay. i always got the impression that while he loved sarah, he was /in love/ with john paul, which is a big difference. i also think that was the meaning behind the emphasis on "love" when he said "but i /love/ john paul." different kind of love.
Jude Bramer Couldnt agree with you more. Sometime people can become confused between the two, and mistake one for the other, particularly when attraction plays a part. While criag was attractedto and yes did love Sarah very much, he was in love with john paul for who he was, the attraction with them came later. Bottom line is that love, while complicated and hurtful, is limitless and knows no bounds gender, race, religion or anything else.
"Sarah, I want to be with John Paul" Aww!! I love you Craig! That scene when Craig was knocking at JP's door made me actually cry.. NANCY I HATE YOU!!!
Finally Craig showing some maturity and integrity when talking to Sarah. I think it would have been explained better if he had said "I love you" "but I AM IN LOVE WITH JOHN PAUL"!!!!!
Craig: "What I did was stupid... it's unforgivable. But me and John Paul.... it's..." ...Mindbogglingly amazing! ;-) I love this scene where Craig finally starts to see, umm, straight. JP is the one he wants and I am proud of him for not trying to take the 'easy route' out of this, even though Sarah is offering it to him! =)
Oh my God, the ending... when Craig completely falls apart and Frankie's not understanding and Craig tries to get away from her... just, ahh I cried so hard. Really great acting by Guy here.
Yeah Craig finally being honest and admitting who he truly loves and who he wants to be with. Craig family gave him such a hard time because John-Paul was a guy if he would of been female he wouldn't of had half as much grief
Wow, what a great series. I just recently stumbled upon these posts, and now I'm hooked.... we need a show like this in the U.S. Wildly entertaining.... Thk U, to whoever is responsible for these posts.
When I first watched this storyline, I was so surprised that Craig told Sarah he wanted to be with JP. I thought he would try to take the easy way out.
The way Craig(Guy) slowely rises his eyes to look at Sarah, before he says"but, I love John Paul" is brilliant!! When Sarah says"I have never been as happy with anyone my hole life",you could see in his eyes that Craig thought of John Paul. Its like he had an revelation, and suddely realised that it is John Paul that he wants to be with. Im not sure thats what he initiliy went to Sarah to say.
Yeah, and when she says to Nancy that "Loads of blokes cheat on their girlfriends" as if it's something she should just expect to happen, and she'll settle for that if it means she can be with him...God, how sad.
@@MrJacksparrow07 Yeah but whilst Craig is round at Sarah telling her face to face that he loves John-Paul and wants to be with John-Paul Nancy is telling John-Paul that Craig is begging Sarah for another chance I think John-Paul believes that Craig has chosen him by default that's what makes him leave Craig at airport Craig i chose you i forced you to choose im surprised he didnt get it at the enggagement party he showed Sarah the watch Craig gave him it was his grandads the inscription had love always Sarah said to John-Paul i had to buy my own engagement ring didn't that say everything
I'm glad that Craig least had the decency to go to Sarah and tell her to her face about what happened and what he's feeling. He was so rotten to her (well both Sarah and John Paul really), she deserved the truth face to face. Though I'm surprised that they didn't have Craig say, "I'm in love with John Paul." Instead of just having Craig say in it in a different way to show it was John Paul he choose.
Guys... We all have to admit that we all are just putty in Craig's fingers. Just hearing him say that he wanted to be with JP at last made up for everything. Siiiiigh
i know this sucks for Craig. i feel like he is a textbook bisexual then they were like no we gonna turn him fully gay. like that honestly sucks and led to more suffering for all parties involved
Ugh. I hate Nancy. John Paul is right, she doesnt have ANY right to come over to HIS house to yell at him. John Paul is just as much a victim in this as Sarah is, probably more so since Craig actually loved him but kept on hurting him anyway.
This is all so heartbreaking. I applaud Craig here, but I wish he at least hugged Sarah or something... he did kind of ruin her life. Sarah was always a sweet friend.
Hate to say it because it took me two seconds flat to turn around on him, but I was so proud of Craig here. He could have had Sarah back in a flash, but he really does love JP after all, huh? And I love how you get this impact even more because JP thinks that he's gone and chosen Sarah and he's a crying mess. Sarah's a crying mess and Craig just breaks down at the end becuz he thinks he's lost John Paul. Flippin amazing. xx
I just LOVE the fact that she is so worked up because Craig loves another guy when later on Sarah falls in love with other girls! not exactly to greatest couple in the world! Love them both to bits though and i'm sorry that they aren't around anymore :(
The reason she's begging him is because she's loosing him.. she cused and fused all night and wishes he begs her to forgive him but once he doesn't...she sees how much he really does love JP.. who can take losing thier man to another man.. she thought she was Craig's world...but she's not..
Well, I know James Sutton is around six feet? I'm pretty sure Guy is shorter than him.. but it's too close to tells sometimes. Anyway, hope that helped a little:).
Nancy is trouble....Where does she get off.... Sarah says shes never been as happy with someone in her whole life, Craig responds with a quiet "me too".....obviously not referring to her....
'I love, John Paul' HALLEUGHAH! HALLEUGUHAH, HALLEEEEEEOOOOUGGGGHHHHAAAAAH! Sorry, but I think every McDeaner out there was waiting for 5 months for Craig to drop that bombshell on Sarah :)
I CAN`T BE WITH SOMEONES SIDE RIGHT NOW...i`m confused! i always used to support sarah but she blemed JP and tolm him that she hates him when he is at the same side with sarah..
the amount of hate towards Nancy is really worrying. anyone who can say that they wouldnt react EXACTLY like Nancy did if this happened to their best friend, clearly isnt a good friend and anyone who calls her "annoying" or "bitch" or "whore" for standing up for her friend has some serious issues.
Honestly I didn't feel like she was particularly nice to Sarah either, and treated her pretty insensitively. She may say she is standing up for her friend but her concern seems fake to me. The only thing that seems real about her is the pleasure she takes in passing judgment and sardonically cutting people down without knowing the first thing about them or their situation. I cannot stand her.
I hate Nance! Shure! It's nicewe of her trying to be a mate for Sarah. But instead of letting Sarah speak of her emotions, Nancy goes on blabbing about how Craig is a prat. Like she is so perfect!
nancy is involving herself in a situation that has nothing to do with her being sarahs bf or not she shouldn't just do all those things to craig and john paul
Barbie Liu I I initially thought the same thing...I thought about it and I think Craig convinced himself wanted to “want to” to go Dublin with Sarah. But when he was outed and reality came crashing down Craig couldn’t deny his true feelings and went with his heart. I have more trouble with Craig when Sarah asked him if he had any intention of marrying her he said yes but, the only reason he proposed is because he chickened out while trying to tell her the truth. I believe he may or may not have gone to Dublin with her, if he wasn’t outed by John Paul, but I don’t think he would of proposed any time soon, if ever.
@lilmisslillie I've be out over 40 years and I am still amazed that most of the gay men I know are not in the least stereotypical. Lot of wrong info going on out there. JP is just a guy who likes a guy like Craig is. That's all its ever been about.
Why is ya'll calling Nancy a bitch? It's obvious that none of you are female. She was only trying to protect her friend who was in a fragile state from bring further manipulated by Craig. She may have been out of order but she wasn't doing it to hurt Sarah. If she were then I would agree with ya'll.
Nancy has always been horrible, she has always stuck her nose in where it doesn't belong. And a lot of times she acts all high and mighty, when a lot of time she's in the wrong and usually ends up with egg on her face. And yet she never learns and always tends to boss her opinions on everyone else. Sure she wants to protect Sarah, but she could have handled things a whole lot better. She was making the situation so much worse.
the contrast of this storyline to nowadays is ridiculous could you ever imagine this on soaps these days?? it’s blasphemy to think they would discriminate a gay lol
Sarah: "I have never been as happy with anyone in my whole life!" o_O YOU'RE LIKE SEVENTEEN. Get over yourself, you have an entire lifetime ahead of you. Well, sort of. Word of advice, Sarah: stay away from skydiving...
Nancy: you don't care do you? JP: about you? no not particularly. Same JP, same.
lol
I love Nancy, but right now, yeah. Same. LOL
@@PABWECGNancy is ok, but she can be so annoyingly self-righteous. Like girl you are not saint. Stay out of people's business and deal with your own messy life
"I love you but i LOVE John Paul"... the eyebrows say it all.
That last bit ALWAYS gets to me. Craig just wants a bit of comfort from his mother and she thinks he's upset over Sarah. The whole situation has been bad but I think the biggest thing he's upset about now is the fact that no one understands his feelings for John Paul.
The way Craig/Guy says "John Paul" is so beautiful for some reason.
So proud of Craig in this episode. I think it's the moment in his relationship with John Paul when he's the most courageous, even more than when he returns to take John Paul away with him. He decides that John Paul is worth more to him than his relationship with Sarah, the approval of his family or being comfortable in heteronormative society. After months and months of him being dilatory and cowardly this is cathartic.
I think the hardest part about watching these last few episodes is that everybody acts like Craig liking another guy is the worst thing that could possibly happen to THEM. Sure, it came out in a really horrible way, but people need to get their priorities straight.
Quite. If I had been Craig's mother I would have given him a big hug and told him I loved him no matter what.
Yeah time difference. Although it was still an amazingly progressive storyline for 2007. I just wish Craig could’ve been bi or pan or something else, instead of everyone saying he has to be either gay or straight.
"Sarah, I wanna be with johnpaul" never have I heard sweeter words! :'D
Most likely my favorite part of the whole story is when Craig says
"But I love John Paul."
Win!
nancy: you don't care, do you?
jp: about you? no, not particularly.
and thanks to whoever came up with that exchange
Craig finally did the right thing here because I do believe he did love Sarah but like he stressed he LOVES John Paul. It's different.
He loves Sarah but he is in love with John Paul
watching this show, i always sort of thought that craig loved sarah more as a friend than as a love interest, but was just afraid to think that way because he didn't want to be gay. i always got the impression that while he loved sarah, he was /in love/ with john paul, which is a big difference. i also think that was the meaning behind the emphasis on "love" when he said "but i /love/ john paul." different kind of love.
Jude Bramer Couldnt agree with you more. Sometime people can become confused between the two, and mistake one for the other, particularly when attraction plays a part. While criag was attractedto and yes did love Sarah very much, he was in love with john paul for who he was, the attraction with them came later. Bottom line is that love, while complicated and hurtful, is limitless and knows no bounds gender, race, religion or anything else.
I do agree that he loved Sarah, but he was in love with John Paul. I also think that he and Sarah were co-dependent
'I've never been happier with anyone in my whole life!' Sarah, you're 18!!
"Sarah, I want to be with John Paul" Aww!! I love you Craig!
That scene when Craig was knocking at JP's door made me actually cry..
NANCY I HATE YOU!!!
Finally Craig showing some maturity and integrity when talking to Sarah. I think it would have been explained better if he had said "I love you" "but I AM IN LOVE WITH JOHN PAUL"!!!!!
Craig: "What I did was stupid... it's unforgivable. But me and John Paul.... it's..."
...Mindbogglingly amazing! ;-)
I love this scene where Craig finally starts to see, umm, straight. JP is the one he wants and I am proud of him for not trying to take the 'easy route' out of this, even though Sarah is offering it to him! =)
Oh my God, the ending... when Craig completely falls apart and Frankie's not understanding and Craig tries to get away from her... just, ahh I cried so hard. Really great acting by Guy here.
Yes Craig i am so proud of u, you've done an awful thing but now it admitting ur feelings and that takes a lot
Yeah Craig finally being honest and admitting who he truly loves and who he wants to be with. Craig family gave him such a hard time because John-Paul was a guy if he would of been female he wouldn't of had half as much grief
No matter how happy he was with Sarah ...Craig loves John Paul more... that's what I call LOVE...damn..
That scene is so different to watch when you've already seen it and know what's coming...it's really quite beautifully done.
Wow, what a great series. I just recently stumbled upon these posts, and now I'm hooked.... we need a show like this in the U.S. Wildly entertaining.... Thk U, to whoever is responsible for these posts.
This is so good to rewatch! Dang!!!
When I first watched this storyline, I was so surprised that Craig told Sarah he wanted to be with JP. I thought he would try to take the easy way out.
The way Craig(Guy) slowely rises his eyes to look at Sarah, before he says"but, I love John Paul" is brilliant!! When Sarah says"I have never been as happy with anyone my hole life",you could see in his eyes that Craig thought of John Paul. Its like he had an revelation, and suddely realised that it is John Paul that he wants to be with. Im not sure thats what he initiliy went to Sarah to say.
See, this is why I can't hate Craig, despite everything he did.
Don't beg. Poor Sarah!😭
Yeah, and when she says to Nancy that "Loads of blokes cheat on their girlfriends" as if it's something she should just expect to happen, and she'll settle for that if it means she can be with him...God, how sad.
I really felt for her here. At least Craig had the decency to break up with her face to face.
@@MrJacksparrow07 Yeah but whilst Craig is round at Sarah telling her face to face that he loves John-Paul and wants to be with John-Paul Nancy is telling John-Paul that Craig is begging Sarah for another chance
I think John-Paul believes that Craig has chosen him by default that's what makes him leave Craig at airport Craig i chose you i forced you to choose im surprised he didnt get it at the enggagement party he showed Sarah the watch Craig gave him it was his grandads the inscription had love always
Sarah said to John-Paul i had to buy my own engagement ring didn't that say everything
Omg I would kill to have Craig’s eyelashes at 7:30 gorgeous 🥰
love the way craig is crying for jp!!!... shows he really dose care...! his mam thinking it was over sarah.. haha wat a dope!!! LOL hahaha
I'm glad that Craig least had the decency to go to Sarah and tell her to her face about what happened and what he's feeling. He was so rotten to her (well both Sarah and John Paul really), she deserved the truth face to face. Though I'm surprised that they didn't have Craig say, "I'm in love with John Paul." Instead of just having Craig say in it in a different way to show it was John Paul he choose.
Guys... We all have to admit that we all are just putty in Craig's fingers. Just hearing him say that he wanted to be with JP at last made up for everything. Siiiiigh
i know this sucks for Craig. i feel like he is a textbook bisexual then they were like no we gonna turn him fully gay. like that honestly sucks and led to more suffering for all parties involved
God Nancy was insufferable this episode. She is such a hypocrite
Ugh. I hate Nancy. John Paul is right, she doesnt have ANY right to come over to HIS house to yell at him. John Paul is just as much a victim in this as Sarah is, probably more so since Craig actually loved him but kept on hurting him anyway.
And seriously Nancy. Look back to a week ago when you said that John Paul was GLOWING over a certain mystery man he was seeing.
Guy Burnet got sexier and sexier every episode DAYUUUUMMMMM!
This is all so heartbreaking. I applaud Craig here, but I wish he at least hugged Sarah or something... he did kind of ruin her life. Sarah was always a sweet friend.
Sarah shows her maturity in this episode.
nice.
HAHA I LUV CRAIG NOW XD
i hated his guts but now I love him :3
Hate to say it because it took me two seconds flat to turn around on him, but I was so proud of Craig here. He could have had Sarah back in a flash, but he really does love JP after all, huh? And I love how you get this impact even more because JP thinks that he's gone and chosen Sarah and he's a crying mess. Sarah's a crying mess and Craig just breaks down at the end becuz he thinks he's lost John Paul. Flippin amazing. xx
I just LOVE the fact that she is so worked up because Craig loves another guy when later on Sarah falls in love with other girls! not exactly to greatest couple in the world!
Love them both to bits though and i'm sorry that they aren't around anymore :(
I am in love. I can't help not to scream
Sarah is impossible to take seriously
The reason she's begging him is because she's loosing him.. she cused and fused all night and wishes he begs her to forgive him but once he doesn't...she sees how much he really does love JP.. who can take losing thier man to another man.. she thought she was Craig's world...but she's not..
Well, I know James Sutton is around six feet? I'm pretty sure Guy is shorter than him.. but it's too close to tells sometimes. Anyway, hope that helped a little:).
Nancy, kindly remove yourself from the situation.
John Paul thought Craig was at the door when Nancy came.
Nancy is trouble....Where does she get off....
Sarah says shes never been as happy with someone in her whole life, Craig responds with a quiet "me too".....obviously not referring to her....
I have a question...before this episode did Craig ever make plans for John Paul to go to dublin with him...
'I love, John Paul'
HALLEUGHAH! HALLEUGUHAH, HALLEEEEEEOOOOUGGGGHHHHAAAAAH!
Sorry, but I think every McDeaner out there was waiting for 5 months for Craig to drop that bombshell on Sarah :)
Do anyone know how tall Guy Burnett is..
Oh Craig you were finally brave. Stupid Mum presuming, he broke down in fear that Jp wont take him back.
Ugh no matter how many times I watch this, I get so irritated with Frankie and Nancy.
so Craig finally found his balls. That's good to know.
When JP cries, I cry.
This is all a bit awkward now that we know Sarah's storyline and its very high flying end. lol
i love you...
But....
I LOVE JP
sooo happy he put the emphasis on that, finally to her face
I CAN`T BE WITH SOMEONES SIDE RIGHT NOW...i`m confused! i always used to support sarah but she blemed JP and tolm him that she hates him when he is at the same side with sarah..
Pause at 0:19. Marvel at John Paul's gorgeousness.
YESYESYESYESYYESYEYSYESYEYSYES
omg i was soo happy when craig says the i LOOOVE john paul
kaaaching
When Sarah asks nancy to leave, i bet shes just thinkng "Nancy, could you just but out?". I really dont like Nancy at all!
Why is she willing to forgive Craig but now John Paul? It's not like John Paul cheated on her.
Samantha Raymond It's the same way when it is another girl.
i think the only thing i like about Nancy is her hair..........lol
I KNOW! what a horrible way to go :(
the amount of hate towards Nancy is really worrying. anyone who can say that they wouldnt react EXACTLY like Nancy did if this happened to their best friend, clearly isnt a good friend and anyone who calls her "annoying" or "bitch" or "whore" for standing up for her friend has some serious issues.
Honestly I didn't feel like she was particularly nice to Sarah either, and treated her pretty insensitively. She may say she is standing up for her friend but her concern seems fake to me. The only thing that seems real about her is the pleasure she takes in passing judgment and sardonically cutting people down without knowing the first thing about them or their situation. I cannot stand her.
nancy needs to mind her own business! In 2016 she becomes a pill popper!LMAO
I hate Nance! Shure! It's nicewe of her trying to be a mate for Sarah. But instead of letting Sarah speak of her emotions, Nancy goes on blabbing about how Craig is a prat. Like she is so perfect!
nancy is involving herself in a situation that has nothing to do with her being sarahs bf or not she shouldn't just do all those things to craig and john paul
Craig has a point when you really think about it. All straight dudes should have a sexy boyfriend.
Craig looks a bot like Casey Affleck in the beginning. :D
Yes - she wasn't his teenage dream after all.
hip hip hoorayyyyyyy, hip hip hoorayyyyyy. HE CHOSE JP!!!!!!
The worst thing about Nancy is that at no point will her character ever have a moment where she's the least bit likable.
I only feel sorry for JP
I feel so sorry for katy perry....
kinda ironic that sarah turned out to be a lesbian ...
Not anymore it seems. On his wiki page it says he is dating some model named Kit Williams.
JP deserves so much better than Craig. They both do.
John paul cries i cry
Nancy speaks i i go crazy with mad
i can't stand nancy either she is the last person to pass judgement
How can Craig say it was all true that he wanted to go to Dublin with Sarah.....
Barbie Liu I I initially thought the same thing...I thought about it and I think Craig convinced himself wanted to “want to” to go Dublin with Sarah. But when he was outed and reality came crashing down Craig couldn’t deny his true feelings and went with his heart. I have more trouble with Craig when Sarah asked him if he had any intention of marrying her he said yes but, the only reason he proposed is because he chickened out while trying to tell her the truth. I believe he may or may not have gone to Dublin with her, if he wasn’t outed by John Paul, but I don’t think he would of proposed any time soon, if ever.
Craig has a new haircut..
@lilmisslillie I've be out over 40 years and I am still amazed that most of the gay men I know are not in the least stereotypical. Lot of wrong info going on out there. JP is just a guy who likes a guy like Craig is. That's all its ever been about.
I Love John Paul *period*.
Ugh Nancy really gets on my nerves
They don't know BISEXUALITY? Don't they? :]
I'm also confused in this episode. I don't if I should feel sad, happy or whatsoever.
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Is any one else thinking pull up ur shirt Sarah?
wooow
It's funny watching Sarah like this when in a few years, she comes out as gay and is in love with Zoe.
James Sutton & Jessica Fox (JP & Nancy actors) are bf & gf in real life :O
Wow, Craig finally man up
He thosen´t meen sarah, "Mother"
i have sarahs suit case in pink XD
Why is ya'll calling Nancy a bitch? It's obvious that none of you are female. She was only trying to protect her friend who was in a fragile state from bring further manipulated by Craig. She may have been out of order but she wasn't doing it to hurt Sarah. If she were then I would agree with ya'll.
Nancy has always been horrible, she has always stuck her nose in where it doesn't belong. And a lot of times she acts all high and mighty, when a lot of time she's in the wrong and usually ends up with egg on her face. And yet she never learns and always tends to boss her opinions on everyone else. Sure she wants to protect Sarah, but she could have handled things a whole lot better. She was making the situation so much worse.
the contrast of this storyline to nowadays is ridiculous could you ever imagine this on soaps these days?? it’s blasphemy to think they would discriminate a gay lol
I don't care how devastated I am about any situation ..... I'm going to blow my nose.... that's just YUCK...lol
F"en hate Nancy. To think James and her were a thing turns my stomach. She's a great actor! ;-)
me: hey nancy come closer
nancy: oh your pathetic(starts walking away)
me:*shoots nancy*
everyone: YAY!!!!
Dammit. Sarah should be with me, then. She is bisexual after all, right? Right.
Sarah: "I have never been as happy with anyone in my whole life!"
o_O
YOU'RE LIKE SEVENTEEN. Get over yourself, you have an entire lifetime ahead of you.
Well, sort of. Word of advice, Sarah: stay away from skydiving...
@liagrave41 Love it!
bitch=shara!!!