BINOCULAR REVIEW: Zeiss Victory SF 10x42 vs Zeiss Conquest HD 10x42
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- I wanted to see if the Zeiss Victory's were worth the extra $1500 compared to the Conquest HD's. I bought a pair of each and head to Arizona for a week to hunt Coues deer. If you have any questions or feedback please feel free to hit me up.
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Mirrors my own experience. I have some more info too, especially about the Conquest HD eyecups. One, you're not alone, quite a few people have a problem with those. It's not insurmountable though! Those eyecups are different - softer, and there's an extended version that offers a little more space between eye and ocular. But they are also a little tricky out of the box.
As an aside, Zeiss has real customer service where you can talk to live people who actually know what they are talking about! And if you own a Zeiss optic and any of your accessories (eyecups, neck straps, lens caps, etc.) gives up the ghost, you can call them and they will send you a replacement. May not ALL be free - a new carrying case may cost you $20 or so - but I believe eyecups are indeed free. Used to be anyway, these days everything seems to be more expensive, so who knows...
So let's say you despaired over your old eyecups and got them stuck. or unstuck, or plain old broken. They send you new ones. What do you do?
One, take the old eyecups off. Unscrew and remove them as you would the lid of a jar.
Two, screw on the new eyecup as far as it will easily go, then add one little twist with some extra force. No need to crank it to the max, you just want to get it stuck firmly enough so it doesn't immediately unscrew on you when you try to extend it.
Three: here is where the magic happens. You need to wear in your new eyecup first! Grab the eyecup near the top (if you grab it near the bottom, its flexible lower lip will rub against the housing and you'll make your job harder). Twist it out and back in as far as it will go without forcing anything. The eyecup will probably only extend one stop at first. But repeat the in and out a bunch of times, and soon you'll get to the second click stop, and finally to the third one. Once it's worn in, it will work well. It's beyond me why Zeiss doesn''t invest the few seconds this takes.
Hope this helps!
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Great job. One of the best, most practical reviews I've seen.
Man I really appreciate that. I really want to do reviews that still respect the technical function of the gear but are communicated in a way that land for every day guys like us that just want to know what works better.
Great video. I’ve just got the conquest HD 8x42 for deer stalking. I’ve upgraded from vortex diamondback HD. Zeiss blows vortex out of the water!! Super happy with my new binos
I originally started out with diamondbacks as well. Hard to even look through them now lol.
Nice review, find your candor refreshing (Too many advertiser or sponsored reviews). Unfortunately for a lot of folks, we're not able to do a side-by-side field test before buying, so I really enjoyed your observations. Great glass is a wonderful thing, but sometimes the cost makes you have to compromise for less. Your review influenced my purchase of a pair of Conquest HD 8x32's for general purpose traveling optics. Thanks.
Much appreciated!
Yes it was great when I bought my Leica Ultravids. I went to the old Eagle Optics Shop (RIP) in Middleton, WI and got to try all the top end binoculars available and a few others and the people there were super helpful. I could take them outside and look around. Those types of places are few and far between now it seems. The Vortex offices were in the same complex. I keep a recent pair of 8 X 32 Diamondback HD in my car.
Eye relief is so important to me. I'm so pleased you wear glasses. I've been looking for the best binoculars as I need eye relief due to my glasses. On the strength of this vlog, I'm purchasing the Zeiss Victory 10x42. Thank you for this incredible vlog. Loved it.
Excellent choice. You’ll love them.
Thank you for being the only video I have found who compared the zeiss conquest HDs glass to the razor hds I’ve been debating the difference both are almost the same price. You may have convinced me to go with the zeiss.
The optical quality is certainly better in the conquests. Appreciate the feedback.
3:15 - I've never had a problem with my 8x32 Conquest eyecups coming off. The fact they they do, enables cleaning, separate to cleaning of the optics (but this might be true of many other makes of bins).
You could have the later editions. It was an issue with the earlier ones. They fixed it.
Very good no BS review. AND you're one of the very few that notice the slightly forward weight bias of the Victory SF. One reason Zeiss stayed with the shorter Schmidt Pechan prism.
I have the newest Victory SF and the eye cups do get some time to understand
Really appreciate that man. And thanks for the info regarding the prism. I was curious about that actually.
By forward you mean toward the eyecups right?
I have two pairs of Conquest 10x42 HD's. Zeiss sent me new eyecups for the ones that cracked and malfunctioned.....free of charge. There are two different eyecups you can get, a two position cup and a three position cup. The inner plastic of the eyecup assembly seems brittle and maybe that's why they are cracking on installation. There may be a trick to installing a new set of cups. Just warm the new eyecups up in hot water before immediately screwing them on to the binocular tube. Squeeze the new and hot eyecup firmly and screw them on finger tight. That warmth may allow the new cups to flex a bit on install, keeping the inner plastic from cracking. My latest set of eyecups haven't failed in three years +.
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I am glad I found your channel - I find your videos great and down to earth - looking forward to seeing what you do when you buy your ZEISS VICTORY RF BINOCULARS next (as you stated next level up) - that will be a good review
Awesome, thank you!
Great review. The eye cup info is great. I don’t need a lot of eye relief, but that would piss me off if I did.
Thanks brother. Going to try to do more of these.
Very clear comparison, thank you very much!
You’re welcome!
I heard about those annoying eyecups so many times it put me off, I was so close to buying them too.... Now I have to save even more money for those Victory's
Nice to see the comparison, Thanks
I've heard rumours they fixed them on later versions but have not tested any myself.
Thanks for the reply... I will have to look into that... But.. those Victory's are something else
I have the Conquest 10x42 for around 5 years now. When I bought them I did direct comparison with Victory’s for an hour or so as the light started to fall. I could tell absolutely no difference whatsoever so bought the Conquests. If I could have seen any advantage with the victory’s I would have paid the extra. I’m 55 now and my eyes are not as good as they were when I was 40.
I am on my second set of eyecups though which have broken twice in that they split lengthways. Both times the eyecups were replaced by my Zeiss dealer free of charge. The replacement eyecups however have been improved over the first ones.
Glad the conquest's have worked out for you
Leica Noctilux are much better !
@@geryvanderkelen16 Noctilux is a line of camera lenses. These are binoculars. Odd comparison.
Mindful Hunter No you are not totally true (and I made a little mistake too) Noctivid are the best Leica binoculars I wonder what will be the difference between Leica and the new Zeiss SF binoculars!
@@geryvanderkelen16 ahhh yes the Noctivid are great binos. I think when you get to Leica, Swaro and Zeiss at the high end it really comes down to personal preference. Although the new NL Pure from Swaro seems to be a fundamentally new product.
Very good hands on review that fully covers the practical aspects of these products and provides a sound basis to make up my mind as I'm in the process of buying binoculars other than for hunting but I'm same type of person who likes to get the best product. I have a very old one from my grandfather that needs to be replaced. Thanks! ==> ==> Finally I allowed myself to replace the old Zeiss binoculars with new ones and funny enough I did it in a very spontaneous way during a visit in my favourite photo gear shop where the Zeiss were on display. I had waited for soooo long and I couldn't resist. Research during the last few month made it clear that the Zeiss brand won't let me down and the price point had been fixed in advance - around USD 1000 - the specs needed to be around 8-10x/40 so the 10x42 Conquest HD seemed just right for me. I'm not using it on a level that would justify the extra 1500 although I I tend to be the "buy the best" kind of shopper. Not this time! Back in my mind I probably still had your review that I'm now revisiting a few days later for confirmation. I punched in the specs here on YT and realized with great pleasure that it's been YOU how did a good review and I even commented it 9 month ago! You rated the product favourably (except for one thing) which I can more than confirm when measuring against my very old glass from my grand father. Mission accomplished! Thank you again.
Thanks, for the comment man. I'm also very glad that my review was helpful to someone outside the hunting community.
A good, honest review. I own a pair of the first gen 10x30 Conquest which I bought new in 2004. For a 10 times 30mm binocular they are superb and I never thought I would ever use anything better. I thought I had optical perfection with these. That is until I recently bought a pair of 10x42 Victory FL. The increased brightness and clarity is real as is the lack of colour fringing. They are the very best binos I have ever used. I know today's Zeiss's Victory SF are better. (I've never looked through a pair!) Point being that top end glass is expensive for reasons in that you are getting the best and the best costs more. Sometimes these improvements are not always immediately obvious and some may not perceive any difference optically between mid and high end under certain conditions but under others the difference glaringly obvious!
Many thanks for a staight-up, honest, no holds barred review.
Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a detailed comment. Cheers!
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Great review.
I retired last year and treated myself to an alpha glass as an upgrade on my Zeiss Terra ED. I’m not a fan of field flatterers so that ruled out the Swarovski and a choice between the Victory SF and the Noctivids. Choose the Leica as I got them for £400 less than the Zeiss, both are fantastic and would have been happy with either.
I think those Leica are an excellent Choice
Do u find the noctivids heavy to carry?
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They are quite heavy for a 10x42 but so are most of the top binoculars, I don’t find them a problem though despite hill walking with them. Just buy a harness if you think it will be an issue
@@garybenson2280 I've got a scope to carry too so I really like 32mm,but don't think there are many as good as the swaro el 8x32 apart from the victory sf 8x32,but they are £2000. I really like the look of the noctivid.
Outstanding & I feel the same way! If an alternative exists that is better, it will bug me!!
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Have the eye cups been improved on the victory sf compared to a few years ago? I think they were cheaper quality? Thanks
Last pair I had were great
I say i want more rolling ball effect!
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Great review, thanks for the honest appraisal of both binos, even though you have a preference. I just made a major upgrade from low-mid end Burris optics to the Conquest, which should be arriving shortly. I was most concerned about chromatic aberrations - that purple color fringing you discussed - it drives me nuts on less expensive binos and I was happy to hear that it wasn't an issue with either the Conquest or the Victory. Your review is the only one I've seen that specifically addresses that.
My pleasure man. Glad it was helpful.
One thing about the highest end binoculars they are an investment, you will be satisfied longer. They may be the last pair you ever buy. I am still using a pair of Leica 8 X 42 Ultravids. They subsequently came out with Ultravid Plus and then the Noctivid. I am still very happy with my Ultravids. I am in the market for a pair of 10 X 42 so this video was of great interest. No more $2000+ binoculars for me. I like the open bridge designs. The weight of the binocs is of major interest to me.
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Great comparison. Wish there was wider selection of brands compared like this. Real target for the highest end binos are European hunters who can leagally hunt at night. With high quality binoculars you can count points in poorer light and the differences are much more dramatic than in daylight. On a dark night it might mean you can make the ID 5 or 15 minutes later after sunset, but in the wintertime with snow on ground, it can mean you can sit in moonlight 2 days later into vaning moon. Obviously that requires then high quality optics on rifle to make the shot but if you can ID the animal with binoculars, as you always should, then rifle scope doesn't need to provide all the detail to make the shot.
Appreciate the feedback!
Victory SF are probably the best binoculars I ever looked through
Bloody Excellent
Swarovski NL Pure
Lieca Noctivids
Carl Z victory
All three are the best I’ve ever looked through but Victory’s just had a touch more bang Pop images..
Any of the above will do the job but EVERYONE to themselves..
Totally agree. I run the NL PURES now for the FOV but love the colour profile and clarity of the Victory’s.
I've compared the Zeiss Victory 8x42 binos with my two pairs of Zeiss 10x42 Conquest binos and the clarity seems equal in both models. Maybe a longer use period would have flushed out the benefits of the Victory binos?
There is no comparison between the victory’s and the conquests. Completely different glass and coatings. Made in different factories in different countries.
big help. thank you
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Hi should i ad an 10x32/30 Bino if i already have a 8x42 NL Pure? And a Zeiss Victory Pocket 8x25?
Or better go for a 12x42 NL?
@@s.d.r1062 I’d add the 12x personally.
Am I the only one that prefers my eye cups turned all the way in to get the widest FOV? I anchor the eye piece into my brow and get a steady, wide FOV.
I’ve owned both. Sold the Victorys to pocket the $1500 and build a Tikka 6.5 PRC. I don’t feel like I lose much going back to the Conquest.
You’re 100% right. Fully depressing the eye cups gives you the widest FOV. I think it really just depends on the individuals eye though. I can’t for the life of me retain a full sight picture with the cups depressed.
Would you go with the conquests paired with an sig kilo 5k rangefinder, or go with the vortex fury AB’s? I think i want to go the conquest route for the better glass, but im not sure!
I’d go conquests personally.
Not a fan of swaro as zeiss and leica suits me better but all i can say is the NL Pure's are nice.
For people looking to buy do not get caught up in brand but more so what suits your eyes
Yeah, before the NL's the Victory's were my fav bino by a large margin. Totally agree that especially once you get into the big 3 it's far more about personal preference.
Well said, Buddy !
Thx !
My pleasure!
Fantastic practical review sir!!! Well done
Thanks!
In addition to a Bausch and Lomb, a Leica, and a Nikon , I bought a Conquest 10x42 from a German online shop. As you say, optical quality ‘s great “value for money” ( € 650 ) , but : both eyecups were very stiff just at the beginning, in a few hours of careful use une got stuck, and BROKE while twisting it!! The Italian Official Zeiss importer , to my complaint, immediately sent a couple of sealed eycups, for free . Nevertheless, they both were torn - vertically divided - and ineffective in a few weeks. In my opinion, this means : extremely poor project and mechanical design, bloody recycled plastic for a crucial component. Eventually, I decided to fix the cups by two thin nylon ties…. NOW it works… the end of my story : no more Zeiss …
I’ve had to return my Zeiss Harpia twice for little bullshit issues. Phenomenal glass. Not so phenomenal build quality.
Excellent review 👍👍
Thank you! 👍
Hi great honest straight forward review. Thanks. I’m considering victory 10/42s and wondering how you mounted yours to tripods, I see zeiss makes a +200 Bino mount I just can’t seem to justify spending so much money on, will any universal adapter work as well you think? Thanks. Oh ps I’m also interested in a bigger +20 power down to road for Astro viewing if you have any thoughts I’m interested too. Thanks!
I actually have a company called Outdoorsmans install tripod adapters on my binos. But I see most people using those plates with the rubber straps and they're more universal and seem to work well too. I have a pir of swaro 15x that I love but I've never used anything in the 20x range.
Very good review, greetings from Germany
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Image stabilised bins outperform any non I S binoculars in detail perception (thus identification) and relaxed viewing .
Well that’s nonsense.
Excellent review. How do these compare to Swaro EL?
I think at that point it's really a matter of personal opinion. I'd argue as far as quality goes they're equal. I prefer the Zeiss ergonomics of the Swaro's and it's hard to describe but there's a tone of the colour profile on zeiss that my eyes seem to prefer. Can't go wrong with either.
There is also a durability issue that can be important.
Absolutely!
Do you have an option on Zeiss conquest hd 15x56 vs Swarovski slc 15x56?
SLC all day
Those eyecups drive some people just absolutely crazy. I didnt find them to be a problem personally. But yea a lot of people complain, why wont they just fix it?!
Yeah man makes no sense. I think it’s only people who need maximum eye relief that really have an issue.
Isn’t your eye relief need consistent? Not sure why one would keep fiddling with the eyecups.
@@daleoutofdoors3606 That’s a really good question and I should’ve explained that in the video most binocular harnesses on your chest don’t have room for binoculars with extended Eye cups or even if they do when you close the lid your exerting access pressure on extended Eye cups which is going to damage them overtime so every time I put my binoculars in and out of my chest harness which is multiple times per day I am screwing in unscrewing those Eye cups.
Thanks for the constructive and reasoned reply.
@@MindfulHunter why couldn’t you just use the bag your using for the SF 😜. Seriously though there are a lot of complaints about the poorly designed eye cups. Zeiss told me to snug them down tight with an extra twist. Then work them back and forth at the click stops. That totally solves the unscrewing issue and makes the action much better. Thank you.
SF looks even bigger than the HD, it’s huge
They're physically bigger but weight the same the SF are made of magnesium and the HD are aluminum.
what experience do you have with Swaro and Leica to justify that they are just as good as zeiss? ( they most likely are). My question is do you own all three and use them?
Oh I don't actually own any binos. I'm just basing these videos off google reviews I read.
"I bought a pair of each and head to Arizona for a week to hunt Coues deer. "....... but I'm not sure why he gave you such a sarcastic reply (??)
@@MindfulHunter that’s what I figured. You bought the zeiss not long before you made this video, but have no experience with anything else.
When you get into this price point and you’re comparing apples to apples, the optical quality is going to be the same. Any preference will be personal and based on feel.
Years ago I compared Leica and Swarovski glass. They were identical. I went Leica because my friends had Swaro and I wanted to be different. Dumb reason but illustrates the point. FWIW, at the time, I couldn’t afford them and I cashed out some 401k to do it. I still have that pair. Use them every year and have never regretted the purchase.
Great practical review. I’m looking for 15x56’s right now to replace my spotter and the Zeiss are on the list.
Interesting.. Thanks... What experience do you have with Bushnell..? I'm thinking to buy the FORGE 10X42. 😇 ✌🏼
I have zero experience with Bushnell other than some crappy binos I had as a kid. If you let me know the price point you're in I could make a recommendations
@@MindfulHunter thanks a lot... I'm thinking in spending between 500 to 700 USD..😇 ✌🏼
@@fernandrums Sorry for the delay. In that case I would recommend the Vortex Viper HD www.blackovis.com/vortex-viper-hd-10x42-binoculars
@@MindfulHunter thanks for the Information.. Really appreciate it.
I'm wondering if you just got a bad pair of Conquest Binoculars? I have a pair and the eyecups are really good. Now, I agree with you that the quality isn't as good. But! I'm like you. I have to have the best. A curse to my bank account.
When did you buy yours? Apparently they redesigned them recently. I’ve met several people with the same issue as me so I don’t think it was a one off. Also only happens when you unscrew them to full eye relief.
@@MindfulHunter last month. I figure I'll keep mine around my neck. Since I do have a pair of Swarovski 12X50 and spotting scope. Thoughts?
@@mcrock231 sounds like a great setup.
wanting the best isn't a bad thing, we all cant have a ferrari but we can get things like designer clothes, laptops and bino's
I could not agree more!
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You’re the second person to ask. I’ll put it on the list!
Zeiss Conquest is made by Kamakura Japan. It’s a good bino, like all brands in this price range made by Kamakura. It’s not comparable with the Alpha binoculars from Zeiss, Swarovski, Leica. Just another league. If you use bino’s daily or every week, buy the expensive ones. For most of us the Conquest is a very nice binocular, eye cups are no problem.
You and I have a different definition of the word problem
yes it is
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What do u think of the zeiss quality are the eye cups a little cheap? Thanks
Overall high quality. This generation of conquest had garbage eye cups. They fixed them on the next version.
@@MindfulHunter thanks for replying. I'm interested in the nl pure but I would like the lighter weight of the zeiss.
@@GM-bq6zo look at the Zeiss SFL as well. Much lighter and amazing binos. Just posted a review.
@@MindfulHunter thanks I will check them out, I am interested in the SFL's. Though I have heard they do fall noticeably short of the nl pures and SF's.
@@MindfulHunter would you rather have the 8x40 SFL or the nl pure 8x32?
‘At noon, a $500 pair of binoculars look as good as a $2,500 pair of binoculars’.....if you have no idea what actual quality binoculars are. Maybe to the average hunter, yes....but to anyone who knows what to look for, you are so wrong. Build quality, weight, glass quality, optical performance....not even close....and if you go one step further with chromatic abboration(or how ever you spell that), edge to edge clarity, depth of field, larger eye box...there are SO MANY differences in high end glass. Once you get past the 1000-1500 range, as you step up in price range, you are going to see less difference...because those slight 10% differences, are so hard to achieve. Light transmission, ect...is super hard to achieve once you get to a certain level. I think where you see the biggest difference, is going from say a $300 pair, to a $1000 pair. I tried Zeiss, don’t like them at all. Look down the front side of the barrels, and you can see dings and tool marks from the assembly process. Tried Leica too, better than Zeiss in the top end....Swarovski smokes both of the other two ‘alpha’ glass makers. Swarovski wins in almost every category. And the new NL Pure, Swarovkis are on another level all together, nothing on the market is even close...not even Swaro’s ELs....expensive, but what do you expect the best to cost. Zeiss are decent, but Swarovski smokes them, in my opinion. All three of the top optics companies have their rabid fanboys....I tried all three and got what I feel, hands down, are the best. I know good optics, and what to look for...and how to test them, and Swaro are the best in my opinion.
Swaro NLs all the way 💪🏼
I tend to agree with you, I am currently running a set a $550 vortex vipers, in the middle of the day the optical quality does seem pretty good, color and contrast all seem pretty good yes there is chromatic aberration but doesn’t really bother me too much as it only shows up in certain conditions and or snow on the ground which I don’t ever really get the opportunity to hunt in snow what I noticed the main thing is that the edges clarity on my vipers aren’t great and I get Eye fatigue, I feel fine while looking tough my binoculars but as soon as I remove my head from the binoculars I feel like I’m struggling to refocus my eyes and my right eye feels strained even with correct diopter adjustment
@spinozasdreams honest question why do you say that? I would actually like to hear your perspective from the reviews I’ve seen this does not seem to be the case minus the Leica excellent color rendition, but it has a field of view of 330 feet and the edge to edge clarity is less than the SF victories and NL pures giving it an even smaller usable field of view
@spinozasdreams thank you!
I got the Victory sf and i have to say for me personally they even „smoked“ some 3k+ Swarovskis. But maybe thats only personal preference. I vould have bought every bino in that store but the Zeiss victory sf is flawless. No tool marks or anything in the barrel. Pure perfection. Nicest touch and weihht distribution . Its all in all awesome and suited me best to look through. Although i always want what i dont have and now id like a 20x60 from zeiss or a very light travel bino. I am never satisfied thats my course and blessing because you do not achieve anything once you are satisfied. Zeiss is awesome. But for the budget id always go for Nikon!
what do you think of sworwaski nl pure.?
I'd say it's pretty clear that they're the best bino on the market right now. I haven't looked through them personally and I don't foresee a big enough difference to upgrade from my victory's but if money were no object I would definitely buy them
I have looked through them, they are hands down....LEVELS above anything on the market. It is crazy how much better they are. The level of performance and technology in optics today...any smart person would know that any new improvements are only going to be minor, no matter what company makes them....but these just blew me away. I have Swarovski ELs and SLCs....and the NLs are levels above even those. Other companies, it is even a larger leap in performance. You can almost not even see an edge, they have such a HUGE, wide view...it is unreal. And needless to say the clarity and sharpness are unbelievable. I will own a pair, nothing else is even close, as hard as that may be to believe, it is the truth. I get that all three of the big boys, have rabid fanboys...and I am not one, I just like quality...I tried Leica and Zeiss before I decided on Swarovski....I was gonna buy the best, and Swarovski is the best in my opinion. These new NLs are again on another level all together.
@@MindfulHunter Nice review, thanks! But be cautious in stating that the NL Pure's are the best... I was in the market for a top notch Bino. I started off with extended internet research and based on that I was sure it was going to be a Swarovski, the best you can get, pretty much everybody agrees to that it seems. I recently went to a shop with all relevant bino's available for testing. And after 2 hours I left the shop with the SF 10x32, a no-brainer for me. I tested Leica's, EL's, the NL Pure and more. I started with the Swarovski's, as I was so sure that was it, but I'm such a guy who get's dizzy by Swaro's field flattening technique right away. On top of that the ergonomics are not my cup of tea, they feel heavy, wrongly balanced, too front heavy, and for the way I hold the Swaro naturally, the focus knob is placed too high. It was a relief to hold the SF in my hands, they feel like an extension of my hands, feel much lighter (though they are pretty much equal in weight to the Swaro's) due to the way better balance. And no dizzy feelings with the Field flattening technique of the Zeiss SF. So you see, everybody has their own preference, and the quality of the picture is absolutely not all you need to focus on, as you already do acknowledge in your review by the way :)
@@hreker7563 great point. No replacement for hands on experience with any gear purchase.
Oh my, now what do you do? That Beatle must be digging the hole in the back of your head because of a thing called NL Pure!
I’d go watch one of my more recent reviews ;)
@@MindfulHunter are you referring to any specific review? I don’t see a direct comparison of the NL with the SF.
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@@MindfulHunter seen that one. No direct apples to apple comparison. I bought the NL’s after comparing both in 10x. If the NL‘s were not available I would’ve bought the SF. That’s why I was joking about the beetle. I just ordered a pair of 8x32sf though. And you might wonder why…
The Swarovski NL's are the best if that what you are looking for
If you watched my most recent bino revew of the NL Pure 12x42 you would notice that I agree with you.
Is that really so much better? Or you pay also for the name
In my opinion the Zeiss Victory SF is same. I like the ergonomics more. And focussing.
So you're buying these with the express intent to return one? That is a real kick in the nuts to the retailer you bought them from. There is a person behind that business trying to make a living. You abusing their return policy is a total dick move. What exactly do you expect them to do with the used pair of Conquest you have created?
Wow. You are completely incapable of listening aren’t you? I sold the conquest used. Pay attention next time. I don’t return products I review.
@@MindfulHunter Good for you! Too many people abuse this. My apologies.
@@Seriously140 all good bro. I’ll make sure I’m super clear when I explain that in the future.
Yes, x2.5 priced binos from the same manufacturer are better.
Of course they are. But that wasn’t the question.
@@MindfulHunter That's also true for the Vortex diamondback vs x4 cost of the Conquest. I know it wasn't the questions, I just like stating the obvious! Vortex razors are the same price as Conquest, was it considerably better than the Vortex?
@@roman9509 I think the conquest has significantly better quality glass than the vortex yes.
@@MindfulHunter Thanks! Ordered a used pair of conquests
Dang I thought 200 bucks was alot for binoculars
🤣 and I didn’t even have the Swaro NL Pures in this vid.
FIRST WORLD ISSUES / PROBLEMS. Seriously ,just buy a modest priced Binoculars and be content with them.
If that's your opinion why on earth did you take precious time out of your day to specifically watch a binocular review?
@@MindfulHunter Why ?? Because I can ! ( and I enjoy these reviews )
@@lawrencetendler7747 and I enjoy REALLY nice binoculars ;)
@@MindfulHunter me too .
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