bts and k pop without the k Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- EP506 Smokey Approved Korea- American Rapper First Time - bts and k pop without the k Reaction #bts #btsreaction #kpop
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37:03 Intelligence be chasing you but you've always been faster 😭😭😭😭
That’s it. 👏🏾👏🏾💜
You reached the Level of army of going "the fuck they talking about" when bts get disrespected, I love it and its anither standard step in getting into them😂
I’ve learned to much to just outright lie. 😂🤷🏾♂️
That "expert guest" in the podcast is just a 2nd generation kpop fan who doesn't like bts. These people usually stay on Twitter and yap there. Problem arises when they are labeled as "experts" and invited to these kind of podcasts to spread their biased opinions disguised as professional takes.
Yep, and the worst part of it is them saying stuff about "people who tweet" or "don't tweet at us we're grown people" like wtf ?! Just to be sure that no one that would answer them can be took seriously. Because oviously all people that would call them out for their digusting (and very wrong factually) takes is just a kid trolling on twt... 🙄Everytime I'm seeing again that plodcast trough Boracity I'm so frustrated that this was a Times podcast, like a full on twt hater had such a big platform to spread her bs.
it's been years and i have yet to hear a kpop stan explain what does "westernized" music in kpop means when kpop took almost everything from the west...
If I were to explain it. That would be them taking from the west and make a variant that only could be found in SK or a non western market. It has all the bones of a song from the west but actually only has a tacit connection to the source. It’s like musical costuming.
And the people who complained about BTS becoming too Westernized? BTS started as a hip-hop centric group, their beats and flows were more reminiscent if East and West coast hip-hop, not Idol hip-hop, but only suddenly in 2017 did they start to sound Westernized. How do they not see the stupidity in their criticisms?
@@jessicapierce3027K-pop fans believe that K-pop was not inspired by HipHop or black artists, they refuse to believe it. They just fetishize Asians, bunch of freaks
Jurnalist, that is the issue with some 2nd gen fans. They think doing one or two tv shows in the US means they "paved the way" when the LITERAL definition is "Make progress or development easier". After their appearances on those shows, nothing progressed in the way of kpop visibility. Even after the massive success of Gangnam Style by Psy in 2012 nothing moved for kpop acts. It wasn't until 2016 KCON featuring BTS and 2017 performance of DNA on the AMAs finally pushed media and other groups to try the US again. Because many agencies didn't want to try the US market after so many failures by themselves and others to break in, so they pushed even harder in Japan where kpop has a foothold.
HYBE desperately needed the money so.........THEY SPENT MORE MONEY THAT THEY SUPPOSEDLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO AN ONLINE CONCERT BEFORE THEY RELEASED DYNAMITE. Because that's how you do business right, spend more money that you HOPE you can recoup in an economy that is in trouble because of the pandemic. They had NO IDEA when they could make more money when the pandemic hit because concerts are where you make your most money.
Lastly the dumb woman saying that what makes Kookie's album kpop is because a kpop audience is listening to it. UMM WE ALL LISTENED TO MUSIC BEFORE WE FOUND BTS, WE'RE A MUSIC AUDIENCE. Again something I'm pretty sure she knows and hates, so many ARMY give no fucks about kpop and that chaps the asses of many stans of other groups. They all think we've never heard a song before we got to BTS because they don't want to accept that quite a few of us don't care about their industry or favs.
I am manifesting that those two watch your reaction to this. They REALLY need to see how non-kpop fans see them. They just give me the ick.
When this came out, all of us on twt, even those of us that are quiet and non-problematic were pre-blocked by that k-poppie. We suspect she block-chained anyone who follows BTS accounts. 😭
Great reaction. 💜 "She take good drugs" took me out. 😂 You make so much sense -- I hope you ARE in the room with these "experts" some day.
One day. 💜
Oh a single comment I forgot to add to my rant: she wants to say why listen to the Korean guy who does pop music like JT when you have JT. Excuse me *ahem* WHY LISTEN TO KPOP WHEN I CAN HEAR POP, RAP, HIP HOP, R&B, TRAP, EDM AND MANY OTHER GENRES FROM NON-KOREANS? Is this REALLY the line and hill she wants to die on?
One of Big Bang is littery a criminal. For you to understand if you want watch the burning sun scandal on you tube...it's horrible the things he and other kpop men idols did to many women...i cried😔
I’ve seen it and that’s why I was like shorty saying let’s discuss minus that is diabolical work.
He's a former member of BigBang.
It's ongoing. But they try to come back, without apology or explanation. They all knew.
when bts release english songs it's a problem, but when other kpop acts do that kpopies celebrate it lol
let's not pretend bts were the only one occasionally releasing english music in 2020-2023, that's really laughable bts were just the only ones who succeeded with it. that's where all the bitterness comes from, so kpopies are desperate to make bts's success an issue
"Thinking that my success has anything to do with your failure, you’re fucking great at being delusional" (c) Agust D, 2020
10:44 you’re so real 😭😭😭😭
She was just telling stories at that point
This podcast was straight ignorance, stupidity, hypocrisy and condescension with the nicest background of fetishism and xenophobia... Dumb in short. Cuz even though such conversation is infuriating, it's far from the worst things we hear/read so often.
Always glad to listen to your opinion as usual!
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Boybands go on the shelf after short lived success? Is that why New Kids, Boys to Men, etc.? are still touring? Id say there is alot of ignorance going on in this piece! Hope you enjoyed it Jurn, Im gonna go listen to some tunes......😊
THANK YOU. I have seen NKOTB and Boyz II Men live many times in the last decade or so. Mostly in sold out arenas. Some dissolve, but the genre itself doesn't = short careers. In fact, boy bands have more loyal fanbases; if nsync announced a tour, people would be mortgaging their houses and selling their kidneys.
You made an excellent point that shouldn't be overlooked. You are extremely new to the world of kpop in terms of the amount of time you've digged into it. However in terms of raw knowledge and understanding, you have absorbed a lot of information in that space of time. Yet that girl, who had been in this space for much longer than you still sounds as uninformed as any random person who are a month into their kpop journey. It's ridiculous that the New York Times seemed to have made no effort to engage with someone who is actually knowledgable. There are people who study this for a living and could have offered real perspective. Hell they could have gotten someone who is Korean and speaks English to get the info. Instead they just got some random American chick with no real credentials or even a following to say they could benefit from clout at least. I don't understand why or how she was picked.
I'm glad that ARMY created a transcript of this so we wouldn't have to give it any views. After all of the bullshit they spewed, we all went over to their podcast and gave them so many low ratings that they dropped from 4.7 stars to 1.6 stars within hours. That was last year and they seemed to have gained only 0.1 stars since then last time I checked last month. They thought they could talk shit and maybe get views from angry fans wanting to check it out. Outrage marketing doesn't work here. You got shit ratings, a drop in your rankings, and no new views for your rage bait. If you wanna get funny with ARMY, we can get hilarious.
I would love a podcast or collaboration with Jurnalist and Bora you both give so much insight on a lot of topics really love it💜
27:55 me and you both, bcs I'm out here scratching me head too, trying to make sense what he means with that 2nd half of the sentence.😭
30:36 Reminds me of this one meme i saw back in 2018: "Just because u can speak doesn't make you intelligent"
31:20 the way u and I started laughing at the same time.😭😭 I agree with you. It does sound racist😭
35:28 you mean the idiom "Wisdom is chasing you, but you are always faster"?
39:37 ignorance is not always bliss, oo. That is all I will say
You got me exactly.
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37:13 Exactly!
Say it again for everyone in the back! You know what is! ✊🏼
30:00 wow thats a really good point u mentioned
6:31 bc fuck free promo haha
15:22 The sausage metaphor is crazy
So correct though. Imaging Jimmy Dean getting mad at Farmer John for making sausage would be absolute lunacy.
Regarding tour refunds, not only could they afford the loss, but they likely had insurance, and so didn't have to pay back everything out of pocket. And also, I think there were quite a few fans who donated their refund to pay for the venue employees' paycheck fund, since they were out of work during the pandemic.
so ive been wanting to explain this but didnt know how because we didnt get full info until a few days ago but Boracity has a new video on it idk if you been seeing it or are completely clueless but there was a whole thing that happened from aug 5th (6th korea) to currently and is ongoing. its about suga.
this also links with why so many have been asking you to react to rotten mango despite her long videos cause it truly does all connect and you are able to make logical connections once you see whats been happening over there in depth of certain cases the details are what truly helps you feel it.
I’ve heard bora has a video on it i will watch Tuesday to see what’s going on from a solid source.
Hi, I was wondering if you ever would be interested in doing The rise of Bangtan series. Its 18 episodes but its really interesting, well made and really good insight in bts journey. Loved the reaction!
@@ic3cre4mguy6 I have stayed but time has not allowed me to finish. There’s some on my yt already and some on the patreon. We will be finishing it though.
im not listenin to music opinion of someone who doesn't know steeve aoki 😂😂 girl was talking out of her ass
as BTS said haters going to hate!
Omgg i love ur reaction they r so real!!!❤
Still mad to me that The New York Times podcast gave platform to... this
They are a money generator who has some respectability clout they can employ.
I love the sarcasm. It makes me giggle every time.
I really think that the reason she did is because a legit USA news agency allowed this podcast to happen, and it was a trainwreck. I no longer consider this a legit news agency, just like all the others that I thought were legit and posted shit against BTS in a very unprofessional way. I won't allow myself to follow or give those agencies any of my attention, because that is what they want, and it just legitimizes it. I'm glad Boracity brought light to this issue. I would not have ever known about it otherwise.
2:03 this person has half of army twitter blocked. I guess they used a blockchain back in the day to block everyone who follows bts 😂
Thank you Jurn, I needed this reaction! You never disappoint, borahae 💜.
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There are so many issues with this podcast. First of all they completely ignored talking about any of BTS Korean songs as a group and as soloists. They made it seem like BTS transitioned to only making fully English songs back in 2020 when in reality they've released a lot more Korean songs since 2020 as opposed to English. And out of the 7 members only Jungkook had a fully English album and that's the only solo album they discussed completely ignoring the other member's albums/songs that were in Korean. BTS as a group and as soloists shouldn't have to limit themselves to the type of music they want to make and should be able to make music in any language they want. Also acting like NewJeans started the trend of combining Korean and English was odd to me. Kpop songs have been doing this for decades, it didn't start with NewJeans. Also all this bs about BTS losing their popularity in South Korea after the release of their English songs. I don't know what metric they are using but didn't Dynamite and Butter (2 fully English songs) win several song of the year awards in South Korea? Also winning Artist of the Year and Album of the Year for Proof- an anthology album and having a successful sold out concert in Busan in 2022. Then they had to be cowards and not mention their names because they didn't want fans hating on them. Well geez maybe if you didn't say dumb crap fans wouldn't feel the need to defend to BTS in such a strong way. If you're going to throw out the negativity don't be shocked when the same negativity hits you back in the face. And a so called music expert didn't know who Steve Aoki was? I don't follow EDM either but I still knew him. And Mic Drop Steve Aoki Remix is a banger.
Again and agin, you are my fave reactor!! 15:00 LAMO🤣🤣🤣🤣
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loved your review!!! preach brother!
35:00 wisdom is chasend you but you are faster 😂😂
To me, their english songs are not kpop. And that's fine. JK's Seven should be in the pop categories and yet everyone puts it in kpop
Should be in both it’s not just one it’s both and that’s okay.
May I recommend..BTS Hardship and Racism 2013-2021 by xCeleste
He already reacted to that about a year ago! You can find it on his channel
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30:08 preach!!!! 🙌🙌🙌
Balance.. i like nonsense as well as I like thoughtful.. the industry has gotten out of balance.
Fact it’s definitely influx.
Jurn, Can you also react to new video of Boracity? please.. It came out yesterday. It's a good one. south Korea has a scandal problem | suga's "controversy" and more.
Will be back home Tuesday. Will get to it then. 💜
@@Jurnalist_ Thanks 💜
I wonder if they ever listen back to what they are saying? Like sometimes, I will be going hard on an issue and then see midway that hey....girl u talking nonsense... shut up. I wonder if they experienced this??? Like for real.
I think some ppl are just confused abt BTS and just wanna make up the most diabolical nonsense to make it make sense....to them. If you dont like a particular genre of music, just dont like it and move on. But to go on this hate train is mind boggling to me.
Your take is always appreciated and enjoyable....."she takes good drugs" 🤣🤣🤣🤣Glad your mic situation is sorted 😊
15:00 33:55 Exactly! I said the same thing 😂
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The so call kpop block 3/4 of army twitter before this podcast came out, people that never interact with her found themselves block. That’s why bora is blocks ,She knew we were gonna come for her so she make sure we couldn’t reach her like that was gonna stop us from dragging her to hell.
6:40 Why no name? NO FREE PROMO!!! hahahahahahaha...that's not Army's style. 😜
Also txt, a 1 trick pony amd not succesful, in what world? They are fine and bighit is auditioning for a new boygroup currently. Almost as if the label wants to have a group in every kpop generation, like every other label ever. Just having one single group under a label is the unusual thing espacially with boygroup when you know enlistment is a thing they have to plan for
Let not put a ceiling on the TXT boys. They deserve the same space to grow ne make mistakes. I’m not in tune with them but I would t say their 1 trick yet. Too early to say.
Mas rápido que el rap de Suga 😂
Aside from politicians, I don't know if I've ever heard two people talk out their ass this much in one media space
Even an amateur like me can see they have no real knowledge of BTS, music in general, or the entertainment industry.... They're just trying to turn their hate/frustration of BTS' success into a pedagogy
I'm actually a 2nd generation fan and a former VIP yet a major difference between me and that guest is that I never treated Asian music as a novelty, I just listened to music in a different language (Japanese & Korean, both languages I started learning as well). She, like many K-pop and J-pop fans exoticize idols & that's why "becoming too Western" is a dorn. If Asian ppl speak, dress, sing, etc like a US American white celebrity, the exoticism vanishes, they realize that they don't actually have interest in foreign acts the moment they aren't exotic, different & weird enough to claim themselves a victim. K-pop fans will elavate their status to martyr by taking credit for being above the average person who rejects foreign songs. I personally never used East Asian music to make myself seem special which is why I never fit into these fan circles to begin with. 2nd generation K-pop & even J-pop had the better music since producers still cared & had a style but I can't use that argument against BTS who have always put out quality production & lyricism. It's pure hate for BTS succeeding without compromises as opposed to the many failed attempts of previous idols.
same as what is happening with Suga and the dui. the news put it the wrong cctv video and wanted to lynch him and force him to leave BTS
I'm so done with all these poor attempts at journalism...
hi jurn.hope u do well with all your schedule.i always waitingfor your reaction.will u checkout sleep deez channel/podcast.he is producer for JK song "my Time"..he also co prod for BTS album map of the soul 7.i think u will like that song,i wish..he is good
I'm always happy when Army makes short versions on twt or give bulletpoints, bc there is no way I would listen to this podcast and give them numbers, not to say it is better for my mental state. This was really dump podcast, it was sooo ignorant that it was almost funny. This women was soo short sighted, living in some 2gen kpop bubble, and never opened door, shit she didn't never ever cracked a window. Ehh
Why this podcast even happened of course bc of money why would they even talk about BTS if it is soo bad, why this title, bc you thought Army would come and make numbers, but yeah sorry we aren't stupid, and tgey say they mahe 3 english songs for money, and what are you doing? You talking about them bc of money, bc for sure it was for selfish reasons abd not to make discusion and have interesting talk. Ehh
It is most stupid..podcast i listen..omg
This is painful to listen to 😅 even her understanding of the kpop industry is rudimentary and kind of rooted in some kind of closeted xenophobia. It sounds like the guest is of the type that likes being edgy for liking "different, weird or foreign" things but just in a fetish-like performative way. Outside of what services her idea of what the industry should look like and what artists should do, it's too much and she has a negative take on it. It's disrespectful.
The media called txt BTS' baby brothers because they're the second group from the label after BTS. It had nothing to do with replacing them. Their sound was always their own and different from BTS . It's crazy to think the company was trying to replace BTS with txt when they've even said there is no replacement for BTS. She is on some good drugs....
Lol i live in korea. Kpop isnt kpop, its more like idol music who are geared towards more younger and foreign audiences. Yes there are some older fans but its not common place. The expert isnt well informed about anything and its very nuts to go on any platform and say youre a journalist or an expert in anything.
Butter and Dynamite falls into the nonsense lyrics category
I could see that
I think you misunderstand generic lyrics and nonsense lyrics. These two are not the same. Dynamite and butter still have a message. They aren’t made up incomprehensible sounds which are very common in kpop.
Dynamite is talking about someone being cool and confident and having a great time
Butter is something similar, also focused about being cool and flirty. They may not have a deep message but they aren’t nonsense lyrics
Nonsense lyrics are rather badabing badaboom, ring ding dong 3x, ratatatata and all that nonsense kpop is fond of