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Don't forget that who we are at any given moment is also heavily reliant on the different neurotransmitters. For example, someone with a bad diet doesnt get folate. Homocysteine skyrockets, anger through the roof, neuron myelination is effected negatively. The way you will react to the world... the person you would be is different there than if you had folate properly working... for example people who have mthf variant and cannot properly metabolize regular folate. They need methylfolate. Or people with MAOA-L variant that makes them produce less of the maoa enzyme that breaks down neurotransmitters like dopamine, norepinephrine, and seratonin. So if for example you get a B2 deficiency you get MAOA deficiency and that build up of neurotransmitters causes psychosis and other psychological disturbances. It is also common that everyone gets some kind of defficiency due to bad nutrition at some point during their life during the year etc. A great cause of poverty and violence that could be eliminated with some observation and supplementation.
Also the universe has been aware of itself for quite a while. Awareness and consciousness can be broken down into several layers. For example, the simplest means that a system has configurations of elements that together trigger a cascade of changes to record the external environment into itself which them propogates action back outward towards to environment. Thats a brain or an atom.
Science needs to find another way indeed, when you get a chance look into wave - particle duality being the personality. Were quantum physicist meets psychology. Psychophysics
About ten years ago I had a major heart attack. I flat lined and they had to jump start me. I very distinctly remember regaining consciousness. I could feel different parts of my various systems coming back on line. No, there were no near death experiences, it just felt like going to sleep. But when I started coming back on line, it definitely felt like a computer booting up. First I could see the faces of the doctors telling me to wake up, but I couldn't understand what they were saying. Then it started to make more sense, but I couldn't understand where I was and what was happening to me. It was like, what are these things? Oh, they're people. Why are they yelling at me? What does it mean? Oh wait...I think I'm starting to understand them... oh, that's right...I had a heart attack...they're helping me... It was a very strange experience.
After having a seizure,it happens the exact same. The image in your eyes starts to boot up,increasing its frames little by little.The mouth is unable to speak yet,all you can do is think or talk in your head.And your muscle memory returns progressively. Basically a brain reset.
If I had to guess, it's different centers in the brain going temporarily off, and then coming back online, for various reasons. After a heart attack, it might be a lack of oxygen when flatlining. Then once your cardiovascular system started working again, adequate oxygenated blood flow starts to flood the various parts of the brain again, but sections at a time. If I had to guess, after a seizure sounds like it's probably more complicated, but it's also parts coming back online one at a time, too?
Thats exactly how i felt on mushrooms. I almost forgot the meaning words, what people were. And even dates didnt make sense, i remember asking myself in my head "why js it sept.9? Who are this people (my friends and tripsitter). Why does my back feel fresh (i was sweating but couldnt interpret it). And who was *ex girl's name* (just broke up with here like a few months prior).
As an epileptic, I've experienced this understanding first hand (the hard way). When coming back from a strong seizure, some part of my brain is trying to hear, some part is just always talking, one part is trying to experiment to gather empirical evidence maybe by talking out loud... But then when one part that's confused about why what's coming out of my mouth is just jibberish, there's another part trying to calm the whole "self" down as the other part starts yelling "red flag! The voice isn't saying the right thing!" Even your smells become memories. Memories become "now". And as you slowly come back together, the memory is still there that you could feel all of the different pieces of the brain separately because they got quite a different juxtaposition from each other for that brief few seconds as the seizure was happening. It's really, really strange.
I know that feeling. You're aware that you are looking for your phone but can't remember where it was and I was still in a dream-like state so I could not go look for it with a normal free will, yet after a while it appears in front of me without knowing how, it's like the other part of the brain knows where it is but cannot tell the conscious part.
As a fellow epileptic although only slightly, I’ve never heard anyone’s description of a seizure quite capture the experience like yours. Thanks for sharing
If you put it this way it makes sense why people with amnesia generally don't lose their personality. In a way, losing their memories is equivalent to losing 1% of themselves. The memories did shape the rest of 99% over their life and built them over all as a person but losing the 1% itself does not affect what was already built.
I have actually had two seizures which affected my memory (saying "Amnesia" always sounded very.. soap-opra)- One only got my experiences, but my skills stayed intact - the more severe of the two got my experiences (again), and some of my skills - neither really affected my personality. BTW, Let me tell you it's an interesting and sometimes scary experience being told about things you did, but can't remember - they might as well have happened to some other person entirely. Some things are on the edge of recollection - and can be brought back, like a book with the table of contents ripped out.
Remember that this is only one field of scientific exploration. If you ask an engineer, a metallurgist, a physicist, and a technician to explain a machine, you will get very different answers based on their understanding not only of the machine, but of a question. The engineer can tell you mechanically how it works, and make a best guess of what job it is meant to perform. The metallurgist will tell you a great deal about the individual components and what the elements and alloys used to form them imply about the larger machine as a whole, the physicist will tell you about how it operates based on existing evidence. The technician who actually uses the machine will tell you what it does and how to use it, even without knowing the deeper complexities of the machine. Looking at the brain only on a biological level, or psychological level, or neurochemical level, any of these are ultimately going to be a mistake and give you an incomplete picture. Saying that the brain is composed of multiple overlapping selves is a statement that one can only reply to with "yeah no shit really? Did you need a phd to work that out?". What that actually translates to in a deeper sense, "what is the self" is something that humanity will likely go extinct before it has a fully formed understanding of the answer to that question. Put it simple. In science you just follow the evidence and make a conclusion based on said evidence, you defend said conclusion only so far as until contrary evidence becomes more compelling, you do not invest in your conclusions, you must be willing to discard them with indifference if a better theory presents itself. If someone tells you they can say with certainty how the universe began and how it got from there to where it is today, that person is setting them selves up for failure. Because certainty is by the very nature of the universe, something that is subjective. Point of fact, recent experiments bring into question if there IS any single objectively accurate interpretation of the universe. And even if you do observe an objective fact of the nature of the universe, you can never be truly certain if it is an observation of something that is objective.... Or something that is objective because you observed it.
i guarantee someone with amnesia will have less anxiety (except about the general situation, logically understanding they don't know what's going on when they should) if their memories are filtered out and therefore do things they normally wouldn't. sorta like a huge dose of alcohol or a head injury.
I was working as a security guard in a hospital in San Francisco. One night a highly intoxicated man staggered into the hospital complaining of a severe head ache. The cause of his headache was very clear, and though I was not at all medically trained I suspected the large kitchen knife sticking out of the top of his head might have something to with with his head ache. I sat him in my char then ran to fetch someone who was medically trained. They got him onto a stretcher and into the hospital. I saw him again a few days later, no longer drunk and no longer with a knife stuck in his head. He came to thank me for the help I gave him and he told me the story. He'd been drinking with his friends and got black out drunk. Later he woke up with a terrible headache and he decided to walk to the ER where I saw him. At some point one of his "friends" stabbed him in the head and he was knocked out or was already passed out. The knife fractured his skull but passed perfectly between the two hemispheres of his brain, causing no brain damage at all. I just remember thinking what it would be like to hang out with friends after that, looking at them wondering, "Which one of you SOB's stabbed me in the head?" As he had no memory of being stabbed no one ever found out who had done it.
@@erictaylor5462 I’m sorry, but I laughed at the way you said that you suspected the knife sticking out if his head had something to do with his headache. You have a good sense of humor!
Epilepsy Patient for 15+ years here. Last year hit my head while having a seizure. Ever since then, every time I have seizure, I find everything new. The first time, all roads appeared new and I felt like tourist and yet I knew the way. Super weird feeling. Adjusted to it. The latest one caused me to remember everything as it was 19 years ago when I was in school. Felt super weird seeing my family grown up and old. Yet there was a part of me rationally thinking knowing I just don't remember. I have a infant daughter whom I love and yet I find her 4 month old photo extremely foreign.
I have a disassociative disorder so sometimes places I've been to hundreds of times suddenly feel strange and unfamiliar like a dream. It's a really strange experience because one part of my brain recognizes we have been here but the other part doesn't remember being there so it gets super confusing. Honestly that explains why I have such a hard time remembering directions to getting places because my brain can't remember correctly
@@lunawolfheart336 This has happened to me on various drugs a few times. It was very common in my early regular marijuana using days too. I'd be walking home or whatever and just sort of forget where I was and felt like a tourist in the place I grew up all my life. It was a fascinating feeling and not really disturbing since I still had my rational brain and senses working fine and could snap myself out of it. Not the most safe when you're cycling though...
Sounds like jamais vu. It's the opposite of deja vu. It is actually known to be caused by seizures, but can occasionally happen normally like deja vu does. I've had it happen once when I looked at my mom. It's very weird how being familiar with someone changes your perception of them because she looked very different to me for a moment.
Some people seem to miss the point that having different hemispheres of the brain perceiving different types of sensory data is not the same as multiple personalities.
lol you didn't listen to what he was actually saying then. He didn't say you have multiple different personalities, he's saying that your two half's of brain that is not connected to eachother has two of the same personality's ( or more) that kind of split. Kind of like a street that forks . That said street is the same street but now has a divider stopping the two from thinking the same thing. lol I probably didn't explain it very well but that's basically what he's saying .
Yes what I stated. Guys thinking this is many you's or some BS. Not at all. Just the brain can't function at 100% and it processing information at like 70% and it is a lot slower also.
@@southface8838 0:30 "As well as evidence that there is not just one "You" living inside your brain, but potentially dozens, if not hundreds of different Yous, always competing for control of your body." You said: "He didn't say you have multiple different personalities". These statements clash. SURE, thats only in the first 30 seconds of a 14 minute video, and he does go deeper to explain a point he's trying to make, but that does not change the opening statement, which like everything in a scientific evaluation, has to be backed and made in a most concise, impossible to misinterpret, way. This opening statement claims that after cutting people's brains in half, scientists healed epilepsy and then found out that everyone has 12-100 different Identities (You's). That's a wild statement that already tells me that, if any scientific method has been used in this video, it has been grossly warped or misused for the purpose of generating views. It already stopped me from watching it further. I'm a student mysel, so I will just use my access to the library and my learned ability on how to properly find out about things, to find out if I truly have 200 Personalities and if its safe to cut my damn brain in half, thank you.
I had my right temporal lobe removed in order to manage epileptic seizures. It has been by far the most difficult life experience to date. This information is very interesting to me, however, it does not reflect the same experiences I've had. Being a medical guinea pig has been a very, very unsettling trip that no one else seems to be able to relate to. I look normal on the exterior. I appear to be able to function in a somewhat reasonable fashion, however, for me life is nothing like I understood it to be before the surgery...
Thanks for sharing this. I am sorry that you have suffered. If possible, can you please say a few things about how you see the world has changed since your surgery. You have had a unique experience and could have some very valuable insights into how Consciousness works.
I had a concussion about 12 years ago. Chain of events led to me dying for some minutes. Thank god the doctors were able to bring me back. I don't remember anything about what happened. Just woke up 4 hours later, heard people talking, couldn't open my eyes or "wake up" for a while until I remembered I could wake up. Crazy stuff. People say I changed a lot, but I was only a child so I don't know if I agree. In any case is an unanimous opinion in my family.
Maybe you are a soul exchanger, do a research on the subject. One of the telltale hints is having barely any memory at all of the years before the event.
The thing that's beyond me, is how did anyone ever think of "hm yeah let's just cut it" without thinking what kind of nightmarish consequences it may have for the poor person, even trumping any grand mal seizure. Luckily that didn't happen, but the idea of actually doing this also needed a pioneering surgeon who had some level of madness.
The history of surgery is the history of torture, and intellectual/egotistical dominism.. I beat cancer in 10 days with curcumen and alpha-lipoic acid, rather than have my squamous cell carcinoma cut out by a skin specialist..
Scott, Great piece. As one Buddhist rinpoche told me (paraphrasing from memory): “When we talk about caring for sentient beings, who are these beings? Realize that we contain within ourselves many sentient beings. We are composed of sentient beings. We can start by caring for these beings.”
@@sgcarney I heard that over twenty years ago when I was first learning about Buddhism and starting to attend teachings. The source is lost to me, which is odd because the statement itself has stuck with me for all these years. I've searched for it in written form for years, but to no avail. It could have been Thubten Zopa. But I'm just not sure. :(
So i once took a large dosage of psilocybin, and during the trip, i could feel my consciousness break down, and feel the different parts of my brain controlling things. I had one voice saying calm down, another voice saying lay down because that would feel nicer, another voice reminding me to breathe, and then i started panicking and all the voices in unison started telling me i was okay and to just keep breathing. What's weirder about that trip is at one point i wondered what death was, and a voice said "come with me" and i was shown what felt like true nothingness. It felt like i was just shut off from the rest of my brain for a minute. Just nothing existing. No thoughts, no awareness. And then i came back to the voices all telling me different things to do to calm myself down. Changed my life after that. Got all my shit together, got a job, got my own apartment. Felt like a whole different person after that.
How did you know that it was just a minute Did you check the time, or did you feel as though it was one minute Could you please elaborate a little more this is very interesting
I took 11G one day experienced something really similar to this. Changed me frl but scared me of death, the trip showed me how I was distancing myself from my family and made me realizing I'm really scared of losing them so yeah more scared of death
Don't you find it interesting that after this experience, you further embedded your ”self” into self imposed conformity, obedience and ultimately back into slave society?, It sounds like you were in the void where all matter is created from...was it peaceful there?..In these meat suits, we are all programmed like hardware software..bit like west-world..and they try very hard indeed to have us totally identify with these bodies..for their unpleasant agenda...Don't cling to this life dude, or be made to feel guilty for being separate from the crowd...Human emotion is how we are easily manipulated and controlled, false human morality that does not exist anywhere else..
I had brain damage seven years ago i was blind for a week and i couldn't recognize my family remember who i was or name things that i did know before like a cup a spoon things you learn as a kid But months after that I heard on tv that the way your brain works can be reshape as you learn a new language so i did that by learning English and the translations of the words in Spanish i got my brain to find new ways to connect my memories and the knowledge i already had also was cool to learn a new language Years after i found that even may way of being my self changed a lot usually i was really depressed and overstressed but now i feel more calm about everything and more creative I love painting again and even if no one watch it i love creating new things I hope that help someone too maybe there is a happier you there inside waiting
Its what we called neuron recovery.. Its a long journey ngl.. There also a tale about someone that their frontal lobe left side get damage and change his personality where before he is a calm and calculated person he become angry and mess person but after many years slowly he coming back to his before hand personality by transfered the left frontal lobe function and jobs to the orher side.. That is his right frontal lobe.. 😊
@@O1iviaWard It's complicated, but the gist of it is that I always pay attention to stories I've heard about other people learning how their mind works or how to take advantage of it, and I've gradually developed a good image of how my mind works. As that image has developed, it has enabled me to invent my own techniques for training my mind or discovering its capabilities, and I always seek out new possibilities wherever I see them. In turn, developing these techniques and making these discoveries also shapes the image of how my mind works and is helping me map out all of its functions and learn to control and harness them.
I study music and cognition, and in cognitive sciences, there's this field called 'embodied cognition' (first proposed by Antonio Varela and Maturana). One of the hypotheses about consciousness is that it is an emergent phenomenon. In other words, we cannot find a physical place where our consciousness resides. Instead, it is something that starts to exist thanks to the interaction of the many parts of our bodies (not just our brains) with each other and with our body's interaction with the environment.
I always wondered how dogs or cats or any other animal are born knowing what to do, at least for the most part. A dogs parents cannot speak to it and tell it how to mate and reproduce. But as it gets older, it just finds itself doing what it takes to perform the act and survive. Humans, on the other hand, are different. *The brain didnt know that it existed, and ended up naming itself.* This to me further proves that the brain is a superorganism.
Taking this concept even further then allows us to think of everything around us as having some level of consciousness relative to the complexity of said object/being. For example, the chair I am sitting on could have some tiny fragments of consciousness, but not enough to consider it aware of itself or even it's surroundings. The more humans manipulate and interact with objects/beings around us, the more consciousness it will have. Part of my brain could have once been a spoon used by an ancient Egyptian, or a leaf on a tree eaten by a dinosaur, or even a planet from another galaxy. Taking this concept even further to the macro level, could planets be more conscious than humans? Stars? Galaxies? Could the entire universe be one large super consciousness? Since there are detectable electromagnetic connections between the planets, stars, and galaxies, these connections could act as neurons operating with different, yet similar, physics than those within our bodies.
This theory can be easily debunked by considering the neural correlates of consciousness. For example, if we tinker with the inputs received by any layer of the neural network other than the last few, but make sure the inputs into the last few layers of the neural network remain unchanged, then we'll clearly see that the patient does not report any conscious change ─ because all higher cognitive processes are controlled by the latter neural layers. It is then easy to conclude that consciousness clearly emerges from these latter layers; all of the others aren't necessary at least when considering any given instant.
@@maxkho00 Wow, that is very interesting information, thank you for sharing. So would the layers prior to the last few be akin to unconscious actions in the brain?
@@cant_stop_pooping No problem! And exactly. Not necessarily "unconscious" but rather subconscious. Many things which you may intuitively assume you produce consciously are actually subconscious creations - such as all of your thoughts. Now, you can definitely influence your thoughts via introspection - i.e. telling your subconsciousness what you want it to output - but ultimately, it's still up to the subconsciousness to generate them. Think of your consciousness as the captain and your subconsciousness as the army. This picture will become a lot clearer if you do mindfulness meditation or even try psychedelics.
This almost brings me to tears. I was diagnosed with focal dystonia years ago, and my guitar playing came to an end for years. One day, I read an article from Michael j fox and he stated that his Parkinson symptoms abated when he played hockey. I don't know why, but I connected that with feelings and emotions to the physical body. It inspired me, and I began meditation and actually realized my body had made physical snap shots in my brain of emotional experiences. I am absolutely free of focal dystonia and have a scary mental control of my body now I didn't know was possible. Focal dystonia is listed as uncurable. What else possible to change with the mind!
That's amazing! I wonder if what you learned could help others with the same condition. Meditation is so much more powerful than I think people give it credit for if you learn how to do it well.
Just read Paramahamsa Yogaananda's book Autobiography of a Yogi. You won't believe what kinda "stunts" a fully enlightened individual can perform, being able to think at or very "near" the most fundamental level of consciousness, called e.g. pure consciousness or transcendental consciousness, in Sanskrit for instance turiiya ([the] fourth [state of consciousness), or aatmaa (for non-linguists: atman, self), draSTaa (lemma: draSTR, [the] seer), puruSa, etc. - Greetings from Finland, the Land of Käärijä (Wrapper).
This is the biggest problem facing AI. We really can't teach AI Consciousness because... we still can't define what it really is or where it even is in the brain. Its fascinating really.
Think ur so smart... explain my psychosis. I have a entity in my head that I hear and can THINK TO, or speak to, mentally or vocally, that I consider my brother. What's going on that my brain has fragmented to the point that a seperate being is within me... it's definitely not me, it's 100% for sure a seperate entity within my brain. It's freaky as fuck. But it's all good. Explain that to me, BET YOU AINT GOT THE ABILITY TO EVEN IMIGINE WHAT ITS LIKE! psychosis is crazy but that's what Moses experienced thinking he hears the word of God comming from the sky, I totally have that experience and a lot of time it sounds like the equivalent of hearing conversations of other people in a restaurant or someone in the next room. It sounds external but it's not. It's weird. I had 34 years of life seemingly normal and the last 3.5 years living in a reality that is unbelievable beyond words. I ha e visual hallucinations and physical side effects like brain zaps or alien hand too. Explain it to me. U cant
@@metabang03 I don't need to explain it, you just explained it yourself. I have suffered from psychotic depression in the past, but never anything that severe. Wish I could help, but I really can't. I did hear of a study which found that psychotic disorders and depression were linked to low levels of zinc in the body. You can buy zinc supplements for pennies in the grocery store, and they have a low potential for toxicity so might as well give it a try I guess? Brain zaps are a symptom of low serotonin, I get those when I forget to take my antidepressants.
@@metabang03 When you say 'explain', what precisely do you mean? What is it? Why do you have it? How do you cure it? I don't think I can answer any of those questions. Though I did hear about a study that found low levels of zinc to be connected to psychotic disorders and depression. I don't know if that's what's causing your problems, but if you're looking for leads, maybe that could help. You can find zinc supplements for pennies at any grocery store, and zinc has low potential for toxicity.
I have always thought about the theory that you are experiencing two separate consciousnesses when your brain is split, but you don't notice it because they are literally separated and there's no way for information to travel to the other side of the brain. Sounds trippy as hell, but it makes some sense.
There's a way for information to go from one part to another, but not in the direct way. You can feel one part of the body with another part, and also hear the same sound with both ears, so you, in fact, could talk to yourself or put the hand over the other hand and so on. It's true it's not gonna to communicate as efficient as before, but still can work together. There are other parts of the body that should be felt by both parts, but we are not consciously aware of them. E.g. gut has some neurons, ~ 500 million, and also they didn't cut the entire brain in half, so two parts are still aware there's a connection between them, just the old pathway of communicating is not.
It's still one consciousness dude, it's just been split because it uses the brain. The man who made this video is deceived or a deceiver or simply ignorant, I 100% realized it when he said "you are the universe experiencing itself." Aka your "ego isn't real" the implication from that would be to discard the ego then, and that is a false spiritual enlightenment, aka a new age philosophical trap based off ancient left path teachings. You are quite literally a unique person, or soul, and your 'ego' or sense of self is 1 person, your sole identity is what distinguishes you from the dirt, it is a literal gift from God to be given your own identity.
@@overPowerPenguinWell the cortex is still intact, and attached to both hemispheres, but the two hemispheres can't communicate through it.. not in the way the corpus callosum allowed, anyway.
This reminds me of how I see sleepwalkers/talkers. The phenomenon has always seemed so bizarre to me that people can perform whole tasks and speak coherent sentences yet their conscious mind is wholly unaware of what's happening.
I tend to talk in my sleep and I have never been aware of it, at all. Only because other people told me. It runs in my family, my brother tends to do the same. It's fascinating
Ah I have a really big habit of sleep talking. Usually it’s when someone comes into my room and asks me something but I’m having a nap and it’s like I’m asleep but can still from basic sentences and even have entire conversations. And when I wake up i barely remember something like that happening and only have a very vague dreamlike memory of it happening.
The number of times i had "woken up" as a kid actively taking a piss in front of the toilet with one of my parents actively talking to me and i was apparently responding, is still an interesting memory. Something in my brain must've rewired as i grew because i don't sleep walk in any way any more according to my wife and past partners. But i will still talk while "half asleep". Me and my wife even have a term for it "sleepy Tim is an asshole. im sorry for what he said" or "Conscious Tim cannot be held accountable for what sleepy tim agreed to." and one of the more interesting things is "waking up" while someone is talking to me actually illicits what i call a "fear-anger" response as i become aware of the fact that im not aware of something i'm saying. I have what i can only describe as a fear of losing conscious control of my actions, it's not a recognized phobia as far as i've read. But it's less paralyzing and more of just an aversion to things like mind-altering substances. For context on that; i was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD as a child in the 90s. I had been on many of the popular mild-meths as i call them (Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, Strattera) over the course of about ~7 years until i was 13 and altogether stopped taking them without telling my parents. Almost failed 8th grade, but eventually got a foundation of coping mechanisms down to where i didn't need them to function. That said i do self-medicate with nicotine (Was cigarettes/vaping, now nicotine gum) and caffeine once per day as an adult. That experience made me so averse to taking medication that i have even happily told my dentist that he's welcome to start drilling a cavity out and i'll let him know if it starts to hurt, simply because the FEELING of lidocane wearing off irritates me so much that the ~5 minutes of mild discomfort is worth not dealing with that for 2 hours. I've personally unpacked a lot of those thoughts/feelings as an adult and came to the conclusion that my willingness to endure pain is slightly above average regarding the point where most people will take an aspirin, i won't unless i am at work and need to eliminate the distracting pain as soon as possible to be functional. TL;DR: I was a sleepwalker/talker as a child, not anymore, but i still talk if i'm talked to while just falling asleep or just waking up. The experience is jarring and i don't like it.
isn't that just people talking and speaking in their dream, just that the body didn't lock itself up after falling asleep so the person starts talking and moves around
The conscious mind *is* aware, because its causing the actions to begin with. Imagine a conversation in your mind. As you speak, youll notice that your throat muscles slightly move as if you were actually speaking. This is because the brainsector responsiuble for speech is actively processing, and sending signals, however faint, to the muscles to create speech. Its not that your brain is causing you to speak on its own, but your consciousness is effectively daydreaming. If you imagine something, it can take over your whole vision.
Having "recovered" from a massive epileptic seizure, and the consequential "rebuild" I understand what you are saying. However recently I underwent two separate cataract eye surgeries. My left eye was the first to be done and the second (right eye)was done 8 years later . I have good eyesight in both eyes, but my brain doesn't accept the right eye vision in the same way as the left. It's almost as if that RH vision is used simply as a back up and isn't really relevant. The oddest part of all this is that my right eye vision was the one I relied on as being the good eye. Now I have conflict. Thank you for this insight it explains a lot. My ophthalmologist is in for a conversation at the next appointment. Another aspect was the loss of being able to play the guitar. The mind says I can do it but the body doesn't do it. It's not a nice place to be in. I'm 71 years old.
That sucks. I hope that you can build up some of your guitar skills again. It might be that some connections to the parts of your brain that let you play guitar got a bit scrambled. You may be able to heal some of those connections a bit if you work on stuff you *can* do related to music. Drumming on the body of the guitar while listening to music? Strumming along to something without using the fret board? That's my first guess of things that might help rebuild those connections
The eye thing you mention is it like amblyopia? Where the vision coming in is just not fully pictured kinda like looking out of your peripheral vision but its all the vision you are getting outta that eye?
What you describe is like my monovision, I’m not sure why it’s called that since I can see fine out of both eyes, but one is nearsighted and the other is normal. So except for reading (which I don’t need reading glasses for though I’m 61), I’m really only using the normal eye most of the time but I don’t notice anything strange.
Your brain got used to not using that eye, especially after such a long time. That's probably exactly how it was working when you couldn't see well out of it, and just hasn't adjusted to being usable yet. I wonder if you covered your left eye for a while if it would even out (not without talking to a doctor first though obviously). Or if there are OT exercises you can do to reinforce the use of both of your eyes together, like playing sports with hand-eye coordination
I had a cosmetic procedure on my eyes which damaged one eye muscle and left me with double vision. I have finally got glasses to correct this but I realize the injured eye muscle is for my dominant eye. This is worse because if I want to look with one eye, I have to close my best eye so the image is not as good. I don't know if I explained this well and I'm so sorry I got that surgery.
As someone who was wrongly prescribed some very hardcore drugs for a problem I never had and then suffered immeasurable dependency and neological disruption as a result after extreme, and I mean extreme difficulty getting off them. I am experiencing my self and consciousness and my sensory input in a fractured and disrupted way, and the amazing thing is, I have insight into how my brain gives rise to experience itself and the oddities it creates when things are not functioning correctly, especially when it comes to visual processing and modelling the physical world.
When I listen to new music I listen to the instruments, then pick out the words later. I had a dream one night that was very confusing, a week or so later I decided to listen to a song I had been listening too off and on and listen to the lyrics this time, to my shock the lyrics described the dream I had. Somewhere in my head some part of my brain was listening to the lyrics even though I personally was not, and it manifested into a dream. That still blows my mind.
Similar thing happened to me but with language learning. In one of my dreams I was speaking in English which is not my native language and in a sentence I couldn’t seem to find the right word to fill the gap and suddenly I chose a word I’ve never heard before and I was confused like how do I know this one? When I woke up I even checked and it was the right way to say it in that sentence. Our brain has a strange way of picking up, processing and learning things sub-conciously
same thing happens when you hear your alarm sometimes you have a dream related to the sound but then you slowly wake up and the alarm starts to sound more clearly
I worked in a psychiatric hospital where one patient was sadly locked up in an isolated confined little room due to a severe aggressive dementia disorder which afflicted the poor man in his 40s.He could be extremely violent due to his illness and frequently suffered from visual hallucinations. Anyway, one evening, while working overnight, i got talking to him during one of his occasional brief moments of lucidity. I spoke with him about music, and he told me he likes the band "Wings" and specifically the song "Band on the Run"... The next morning while driving home, this conversation popped into my head, so I thought I'd listen to the song. The lyrics kicked in after about 30 seconds and as soon as I heard the first couple of lines I got the most unbelievable chill up my spine as I related it back to this poor patient whom I had assumed had no real cognitive awareness of what was happening to him. Without telling you the lyrics, I suggest you listen to the start of the song yourself and imagine being this poor patient with Lewy Body Dementia.
As I study to understand consciousness better, I sometimes ask myself what the purpose is for going down the rabbit hole over and over again. I think because understanding consciousness gives you better control over your navigation through this world, in sickness and in health. Thank you for your research and information!
For me it's soothing. Trying to understand consciousness is helping me to overcome anxieties and existentional crisis. I think I'm existentional nihilist, so this studies and findings are really comforting for me.
@@Unurinen For others it's to escape their problems or make them seem so insignificant compared to the larger scale. Naturally we are 3 dimensional beings. I often wonder what the realms of understanding would be like from a higher dimensional plane. Probably would be even more overwhelming as the the more you know the more you don't know
And it allows each of us to make better decisions to improve our quality and quantity of life. Most people still don't really understand that they're are not monolithic blocks of "me". We are each of us self-mobile, self-aware environments. The cells of each organ live in their own environment in which there are no stars, cultures, or civilizations but each group of cells consists of living organisms that use the environment they're in (the rest of the body) to carry out their own life functions in coordination with the cells around them. Pollute that environment with chemical garbage (drugs, unhealthy food, etc) and that's what the cells will try to assimilate and become. But pretty much everyone ignores that part.
Great video. I have a little personal experience to relate. I have schizophrenia. This mainly results in me nearly always hearing what sounds like 2 or 3 people talking just out of earshot. I can't hear individual words but I get their intonation. I'm fully aware of the fact that it's an auditory hallucination but I would bet my last dollar that the sounds are real due to their quality. What i mean is that it has the correct acoustics and tone. When i first got sick, I would always look so my doctor flipped the context of the scenario by suggesting to me that if there was indeed someone out there, I don't think it has anything to do with me so who cares. I'm not doing anything wrong by being at home. Oddly that worked like a charm. It's like the hum of a computer fan to me now. With that context, my experience. One day I locked myself out of my apartment. I tried to turn the knob and when it didn't turn, my brain already had answers and said "you're being robbed". None of the evidence pointed to that but I implicitly took it as gospel I already knew it. I phone the police and when they talk to me, I realize my brain is feeding me false information. It went like this. "Sir, did you see them go in?" "No, they slipped in when i set my trash out." "How many are there?" This is the first moment i ever thought about it and i said "3 guys and a woman with a baby." "If you didn't see them go in, how do you know how many there are?" I am no longer in control of my answers as i watch myself say "I let them sleep in the living room last" I have a puzzled look on my face because i can't believe what I'm saying and he asks "Sir, have you ever had a history of mental illness?" I regained control of myself right before i could start to say "yes, i do but this has nothing......" and said "yeah, it's probably whats going on here isn't it? Can you call this number for me?". It may seem like your brain is your friend but he is a liar and i got receipts! Lol
@@littlebrother82 Well I suppose you could say that the information is emergent. It comes from nowhere. Your brain spends a lot of power to contextualize external stimuli but it doesn't really know what is and isn't external. In my case, my brain sometimes hands me stories that under the slightest scrutiny fall apart. The thing is that when handed the information, I "already know it" so i don't question the nonsense at first. I guess I'm lucky that I am able to recognize it happening and can catch myself but I can't prevent it from happening. No amount of meds will ever get rid of the voices and I will always have to triple question everything that "I" choose to do. Life is weird sometimes. Edit: I can best describe it like this. In my head the things make sense. When i start to say the words they make less sense and when i hear the words i've said i can't believe it. Oddly it is a though there is a difference in the one thinking, the one speaking and the one hearing. I don't know if that makes any sense but there is sometimes a disconnect between what I think I'm doing and what i am doing. One part of my brain perceives another as if they aren't connected
I passed out once, and it felt like I just dozed off and woke up again in a matter of like 20 seconds, but it was actually about 20 minutes later. I distinctly remember bits and pieces of things coming back online, like I could see first, and then some amount of noticeable time after opening my eyes my hearing came back, and so on. But frustratingly, I struggled to come to terms with the passage of time and I didn't fully regain that ability for about 18 months. I had all the knowledge of time that anyone does, and I knew time was passing but I had no idea how to recognize it happening. It made work super annoying because I was just there, for an amount of time I couldn't reeeally quantify, and I relied heavily on checking clocks to understand how long I'd been anywhere (like when people check the time and go 'oh wow, I've been working on this report for 4 hours!' except it was like that for everything, minus the exclamation point because I started to see it coming). I think I just eventually got better and better at using other knowledge to ascertain time, like I knew an episode of my show was 22 minutes, so if I watched 2 episodes then I was on the couch for 44 minutes, or if I took note of the position of the sun in the sky I could guess that it had been an hour or two. I may have just completely relearned how to experience time. And I've come to the conclusion that time isn't real [in the sense that I used to think it was], it's essentially just the canvas that we lay down our interpretations on the chronology of events; it feels like something we've made up to help us understand sequence and I don't know what, but I think there's some deeper truth about time we haven't figured out yet.
Very very interesting! For what your saying I think I experienced it in very minor doses when in a dream. Lile trance after waking up in rare times. It's like you are in a Car that's moving. You see it move but can't actually feel or tell besides looking foe cues...
yep, I have a vasel vagal response. It has caused me to black out many times and I can attest to both the strangeness of time passage and to the slow quote coming back online sensations… Although I also remember, I was definitely somewhere else while I was out. I couldn't remember where but I wasn't nowhere.
@@MsTasha217 I'm glad you have survived. I felt terrified about this subject. Now I feel a bit better. Even if you forget this comment. I hope that you remember and who you are continues to thrive.
I have a stepson who was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Later, we were informed that the two sides of his brain were not connected. He used the right side, which made it very difficult to maintain a time schedule. An artist once told me that when he used his right brain for creating, he had no sense of time.
@@neodimium It's not that it's deliberate it's just that the right side of the brain is known to handle all the "creative" thought processes while the left is the "logical" one.
This video makes me indescribably happy. You say you’ve left a part of your brain with me. I realized that’s something people do a while ago. We’re all just frankensteins of different past experiences and people, and it makes me happy to hear someone else talk about it, I guess. I’ve felt alone with this feeling for a while, this makes me feel a little better. Thanks.
I don't know man I'm sure there's something science will have to say about this however somebody could be trying to possess you mold your consciousness with theirs pull your strings I feel that way but I've seen it firsthand many times
@@lucasking5376 people have been trying to get in your head your whole life, though. Acknowledging it now doesn’t make a difference. Stuff like advertisements, and snakeoil salesmen. In the same way evil people try and leave seeds of themselves in other people for their own benefit, good people can change you for the better. That’s why it’s important who you associate with. If you want to be better, associate with better people.
Assuming you think Frankenstein monster, what an "amazing" way to think about yourself. This is how people get sad and fucked up in life, when they think about themselves as "frankenstein monster". Please stop this. It does not matter how weirdly our consciousness works or if we are connected. You are ok and you have potential to be great and experience amazing things. Atleast you could be if you plant in your head good thoughts like this, instead of sh!t like "we are freaks of nature".
I would not say Frankensteins. But even before anything like modern neuroscience, these thoughts were discussed by philosophy. Start with Locke in the 17th century, but even earlier the ideas were explored. As for the being many selves, this also was an idea before such evidence, although most talked about layers rather than side by side selves.
Ever since I heard this for the first time many years ago I thought the same thing ... HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT CUTTING THE BRAIN IN HALF WOULD NOT IMMEDIATLY KILL THE PATIENT !?!?!?
People with disabilities have never been taken seriously so what do I tell you. Its like experimenting on criminals sentenced to death - similar remorse to knowing what would happen to these patients if the experiment went wrong
because the sides of the brain do not need to communicate to keep you breathing or your heart beating. that is a task for the medulla which is where the brain meets spinal cord, far from the connection of the two sides of the brain. well im not even sure if they knew that but i sure hope they did lol
Lifelong epileptic and diagnosed with grey matter heterotopia (which causes the seizures). I can tell you that my perception of "reality" is constantly in flux depending on the kind of seizure activity I'm experiencing. Thanks for this video.
One day in residency I was asked to consult on a neurosurgical patient. This patient had an entire hemisphere removed, either due to trauma or malignancy, I cannot remember. I remember looking at their MRI beforehand, and knew to expect an L-shaped skull. I imagined that I would find a patient who could not communicate, who could not really do anything at all. And I was shocked when I discovered the patient was entirely intact, with the exception of the contralateral motor functions. They spoke articulately, and this surprised me immensely. It was not until much later, when I learned about these callosectomy patients, that what I was seeing was normal. Had you spoken with the patient over the phone or text or email, you would have no idea that they lacked anything.
There was another case like this, the strange case of Phineas Gage (cir 1849) who was being researched as a medical anamoly for at Harvard surgical school since he lost a whole half of his brain and survived and remained functional until his death but changed slowly in personality
My mother used to train horses. When she wanted to show them something like a whip or whatever she was trying to get them to see or understand, she would first show/demonstrate it to one side of their face and then the other. The idea was that both hemispheres needed to be directly shown. I dont know if any of that was true but my mom seemed to have great success with that method.
Your mother was right. Horses need to be trained about everything on both the left and right sides. Learning to yield to the bridle to turn right does not teach them to yield to the bridle to turn left. A person typically mounts a horse from the left side. A horse that lets people mount from the left side in a normal, calm way may not let people mount from the right unless it has been specifically trained to do so.
I had a head injury in 2017 and lost my identity for quite some time. I'd been a lifelong journaler, but found i drew pictures now instead of writing sentences... linear structure was awkward for me, and geometric shapes and spatial relationships felt more representative of my thoughts than sentences did. Math (something i'd never studied) worked better than words. All the languages i spoke got jumbled up, i became intermittently ambidextrous and had issues remembering to do things like wear clothes or eat/drink... i still struggle with aspects of identity, but i feel a little comforted by this video, knowing maybe that unified self/fixed personality is a false construct and it's just that everybody else is doing it wrong. ;)
Not to give you hope or anything but I'd say try your hand at memory techniques, I'd recommend going with Andrew Metivier. The key to starting memory techniques is to actually start and start with memorizing genuinely useful and practical information
You might find artistic motion easier to communicate your being than language. If you use language to navigate artistic motions then you may be able to describe with more precision. For instance, the tempo, rhythms, intonations (pitches), timbres, intensities etc. of a voice tell you many contexts to a message. This uses musical motions to extend the language palette. I had three aneurysms and found the maths underlying musical structure to be a nice analogy of movement. Maybe give it a go?
I was a working musician as a kid outside New Orleans actually--after my injury, i didn't remember that for about a year/18mos, but i do access that outlet (tho usually without knowing i've done it... i find recordings later on my computer that have convinced me it's still happening) :) It feels like i've developed Executive Dysfunction or something, so when it comes to using words specifically to formulate my concrete thoughts, i am sometimes incapable of basic, simple linear structure@@tavisashton-bell7216
This reflects what I experience as a dyslexic. I think in images and pictures. I am good with maps but poor with directions. Automated motor functions like touch typing or playing a musical instrument dont automate. Very good at reading diagrams and constructing complex structures. I think in 3-D but cannot add or multiply. Very slow reade. The list is long. Short term memory just evaporates ....
I will be looking at the colour purple but verbalise that it is orange, then suddenly get irritated with myself and correct to purple. It’s so weird, it happens a lot with colours but also with thoughts. I dunno how to describe it
As someone with a PhD in the neuropsychology of musical performance, I know that learning to play a musical instrument engages all parts of the brain. I describe it by comparing the brain to a house with many rooms, each of which has an intercom to all the others. Trained instrumental musicians acquire a changed brain, with a fatter corpus collosum. I would explain to my sight singing students that the reason that singing a melody using the correct solfeggio syllables is difficult at first is because the syllables (words) are processed in the left temporal lobe whereas the melody is in the right temporal lobe. Using them together requires growing new connections across the corpus collosum. The advantage is that one gets a better, more integrated brain as a result, not only for music but for however one wants to use one's brain. The best academic students in the school of the arts where I taught were the instrumental music majors. Musicians tend to recover better from brain injuries as a result. Think of Gabby Giffords, who suffered damage to her left hemisphere but has relearned how to talk (!). She is a hornist. My question is how splitting the brain would affect a musician, at least in the short run.
As a life long percussionist I concur. I’ve often been asked by casual observers how I am able to manage performing a number of different physical movements, rhythmic structures and time signatures simultaneously. In my limited view, I can only surmise that it’s no more than muscle memory, something achieved through years of repetitious, mechanistic training. However, if I stop and consider that muscle contractions are the end product of signals transmitted by the brain, the shear complexity of all these separate movements being executed in an organized manner without any conscious intervention on my part (I don’t have to “think” about what I need my feet and arms and wrists to do in order to create a particular rhythmic pattern), it’s really a phenomenon of brain plasticity as opposed to the musculature system.
One of the hardest things I ever did, was listen to a channel feed in one ear. Plus listen to another in the other ear. Plus listen another over head in both ears. Oh & have to respond to each, while still keeping track of the other channels. Plus run a activity monitor in a war zone. Type responses into the monitor. All them at the same time. Much harder than playing a piano and singing. After 3 hours I was exhausted and had to be relieved. Because at least one task had to go. But all of it was needed to make the right decision. Then I got to do something easy. Reading, sorting, selecting, routing of classified traffic and registering messages and preparing a briefing to the CO. The 2 briefings were the easiest part of the day 12 hours a day, in 6 hour shifts. But did have a minor stroke in the close to the right ear, recently. That effects my balance. Closing my eyes while standing is difficult. Plus the constant 15,000 cycle sound in the right ear in quiet rooms is loud and annoying. Just having the TV or radio on, helps a lot. Don't just love the AI that helps with spelling and grammar.
Just found out that hands can interfere with each other and try to do the same task differently. Like there’s 2 different people, and each person is tied to a different hand. I’m extremely interested in seeing someone with this condition play the guitar for example. Also you said that melody is in right hemisphere, wouldn’t that mean that these people will have problems with intonation?
When there are kids who aren't learning music their parents should have to spend their weekends picking up garbage by the freeway. As a little kid I loved hearing Bach on the woodwinds. Adults are the "No" people. "We know you really don't want to do that". Grammar is interesting when you learn foreign languages but learning English grammar year after year is lightyears beyond boring. Only one time were we taught any music and I remember "Hot Cross Buns" which is not music but a very annoying noise you can make with a musical instrument. Just running your fingers across a guitar or piano makes a nice sound. Must be great to be in a school where you get to learn things instead of an institution ran by drop outs with education degrees instead of at least average accomplished people with a-little passion.
Fascinating. I always viewed consciousness as a bunch of feedback loops of the brain trying understand the context for everything. It's feedback loops upon feedback loops, as are the majority of systems within the body, be it hormonal, immunological, blood pressure etc.
This instantly makes me think of DID. The disconnection between parts of the brain, which then allows for the initiation of diverted consciousnesses. In one case it's a doctor's physical interruption, while the other is a survival strategy when full connection to all of the brain's experiences would compromise the 'ecosystems' willingness to continue living. Consciousness is one of the bigger reasons I wanted to dive into neurobiology, but the specialization was in China and I felt too unstable to chance leaving my security system behind.
Everyone that drinks too much knows that personality changes once parts become incapacitated. It is not the real you that comes out, but a damaged you, which is something else.
this is something I've inherently known for years yet couldn't figure out why I had this knowledge...now I do!!! I have a brain injury and have never been the same since, but have always been grateful for the things it taught me.
i knew about this because one of my inner selves is the one that wakes me up in time when i ask him to wake me up the night before. Like just telling myself i need to wake up at 6am, i will regain consciousness around 5:55. It amazes me how well it can keep track of the time. All i need to give him is a look at the clock before bed so he knows his starting point. Works like clockwork.
All hunters can do that. In C.S. Lewis' "The Chronicles of Narnia" the characters mention casually how that's common for people to do. I myself will always, without fail, wake up 4 hours before my alarm clock, unless I try and trick the system, by setting my alarm 4 hours ahead. Then it will wake me up 4 hours before the time I actually want to wake up from. It makes working a 9-4 hell on earth. X'D
i thought it was just me, it's like an internal backup alarm. it has saved me from being late to shifts when my alarms wouldn't go off, although most of the time it's because i'll turn the last alarm off and go back to sleep without realizing that it was the last one lol. but then it's like something will jolt me awake minutes later, just before i would run out of time to get ready. i don't have a consistent sleep schedule, i rarely go to sleep at a regular hour because i have insomnia, so it absolutely isn't from my circadian rhythm which makes this even weirder
Yea, I feel like everyone accepts that we have an internal clock in our brains that can accurately wake us up with +/- 5 minutes of accuracy and we're randomly surprised by it when our alarms aren't set because we just wake up on time anyways. Something curious about the human brain is specifically what senses and parts of the brain are more or less active during sleep. It seems that while we are unconscious our brains are still scanning for threats and interpreting language. I have answered questions asked to me while I was sleeping with zero recollection of it. Even though the part of my brain that forms memories was not yet active, the part that can interpret and respond to speech was. It made me wonder if the version of me that is dreaming is different from the version of me that constantly stands guard. In our dreams most of us don't smell, hear, or taste anything, just sight and some sense of touch, but that sense of touch is usually just our real sense of touch making through into the dream. We sort of "hear" sounds, but its some black magic our brain is performing where we know what someone said and we know what their voice sounded like, but we never heard them say words to us; our brains just make us falsely remember that we heard it because that's the only thing that would make sense to us. Anyways, point is that our dreams don't actually use any of our senses besides sight. All of the real senses remain active during your dreams, constantly interpreting what's happening around you and deciding whether or not it is worth waking you up. The brain is actually using some thinking in this process, for example someone simply talking is less likely to wake us up than someone saying our name. We unconsciously know that our name means someone needs us to wake up. We are also discerning familiar and unfamiliar voices/sounds, tastes and smells while asleep.
When I was a teen, I was suffering from occasional strong seizures, similar or equivalent in my opinion to a brief but intense grand-mal type. I was put through some tests but there was never any conclusive diagnosis, and ultimately I was slapped with "Micromotor Seizures". Eventually as i got older, my severe malnutrition was self corrected and they went away, although sometimes if I experience enough stress, I'll have a kind of confusion episode where I become disoriented and have to take a moment to figure out what I'm doing and what's going on. Otherwise, I'm all better. BUT, back then, I would get upset, get a sudden sense of "dread" or "doom" or "bad thing coming", a strange phantom sense of "hot wiring" somewhere inside me, and BOOM, my thoughts would disintegrate into a flurry of random bits and pieces of thought and I'd experience a strong muscular jerk as if I'd been electrocuted. Afterward, I'd be very confused about where I was and what I'd been doing, and I'd have to take a moment to re-orient. Also, very tired. This was the norm for several of these episodes, all save one, which was also one of the last I ever experienced: I was about 20 years old at this time. I had been working on a BASIC computer program and was deeply frustrated about a specific failure I couldn't seem to reason my way around, and was pretty much at the yell and slam phase, lol. I remember thinking "Uh oh..." as a strong sense of burning wiring invaded my mind and a little confusion took over my thoughts. BAM. Without any sense of change, or strangeness, or confusion of any kind, I was about 6 years old and dressed for winter cold weather, heavy coat and boots and mittens and all that. It wasn't winter, though, it was fall. My older brother and sister were with me, also dressed for the cold. The sky was typical northern US fall gray, and the trees were mostly bare, but a strong blustery breeze was blowing fallen leaves all around us. It was a fun time outside with my brother and sister, playing in the front yard in the driveway. And then I was back at the computer confused as hell and very rattled, shaky and tired. The experience had only lasted seconds but was absolutely, perfectly real. While "there" in the supposed past, I had no memory what so ever of my adult or even teen life. I was just a kid doing kid things. Now back in the present I was struggling to understand everything, shaken from a hard seizure and given an experience that has left me with deep questions about the nature of reality ever since. I have asked my brother and sister if they remember anything like the place and event I described from that experience, and they don't have anything to offer me. They say it doesn't line up with the house my family lived in before the one I remember as a child, because I was too young, just a toddler. So, I'm afraid I'll never know just exactly what that was. But, it happened, and felt every bit as real as any other part of my life thus far, all some crazy, cosmic gift from a catastrophe of neurological chaos. A gift wrapped in question marks and existential mystery. Some notes: The underlying cause of my seizures, I believe to have been caused by severe malnutrition. My parents turned a blind eye as I caved into consuming ridiculous amounts of sugar in instant iced tea and little else. I was severely underweight and severely malnutrified. D- for parenting and not just for that. I was also being badly physically and mentally bullied at school, something else they turned a blind eye to. The experience of "flurry of random thoughts" during the episodes is something I've found very curious. Picture the inner chatter of your mind, if you're one of the people that has that. Now picture experiencing weeks worth of that chatter but only in split second bits and pieces, in completely random order, at a rate of dozens or more a second. I tend to think of it as "thoughts in a blender" and for good reason. There is no sense of self during this, only the blur of thought fragments. Broken moments in time flying by too fast for me to exist.
@@monad_tcp IDKWTF you're talking about. But I will suggest this: Try merging BASIC with machine code and then interfacing it with external, hand made electronic hardware, circa 1988. That may be why you found it easier than what I was doing. Get your ass out of that "Hello World" rut and take it places that matter.
I just wanted to say that I experienced the same flashback-esque thing, and it's comforting to know I'm not crazy lol. I was 15 years old and getting chewed out by my parents, all of a sudden everything was just wrong. I honestly can't describe it, the closest I can get is that everything just shut down. I kinda gasped out uh oh while I slid down the wall and my vision faded out. Next thing I remember is being a farmer in a field, 26 years old with a wife, 2 daughters and a son. I could remember my entire life, I felt every sensation and emotion. And then I was sitting on the floor and weak, and so confused. I knew my real self right away but I still felt like that other life had been real and I spent months horribly depressed and grieving an entire family. For years I kept looking out for my wife, just in case it was some insane fantasy romance plot but luckily the memories have faded. I don't remember their names or faces anymore, though I know they were all ginger except the boy who had my hair
@@panzeratom695 Omg thank you so much for sharing that. All these many many years since it happened to me and mostly I've just plain been 100% unwilling to discuss it with anyone because, you know how people are. They can't be content with just not believing you, many need to attack outright what they don't understand. Safer to hide it away, right? Spend an entire lifetime with incredible secrets ratting around in your head for having to live in a primitive world full of hate and fear. Anyway, I digress. I find it utterly fascinating that yours is a flip of mine. Whereas mine could be a real childhood memory if only I could trace the past into some direction I'd forgotten long ago, yours is completely impossible to prove real, barring some leap in comprehension in consciousness and the nature of reality. You have no choice but to carry that around with you for life, and though time will fade it, it will never leave you 100%. The only peace you may ever find with it is within deep self exploration or some kind of great revelation of mind or in the final passing from this world. Who knows. But one thing I can tell you is that reality, especially in the context of personal experience, is VASTLY more complex than any of us realize, and the full depth of experience is far beyond comprehension. You're very lucky to have seen past the shell that keeps us rooted so strongly in the moment, even though it may feel deeply unfair and hurtful. I know that feeling from a couple of dreams I had of another reality where I was just beginning to start a full and committed life with someone very special. When I woke up the pain was horrid, and I knew I'd never see her again. Took a long time to forget and move on. Took a long time to care about moving on, to be honest, that's how hurtful that was. Call it just a dream, whatever, but that was a whole life out there, and she was "the one', someone I'd built something real and important with. The pain was real enough for me. A suggestion for you, something I've been doing for a long time now. As you drift off to sleep at night, close your eyes and drift outward into the blackness. Feel yourself moving forward into it, like it's a place. It will take you places. Your experience makes me think you're already a little bit "loose" in your binding to this reality. You can use that, put it to work for you. The harder you push, and the more you explore, the more it will bring you. Push hard enough and your experiences will pile up and your questions about what is possible will become endless. Good luck, my friend. May your path take you to extraordinary places. ♥
Woow 😮 how did you fix your malnutrition? I think I'm on similar lines as I'm extremely thin, so I wanted to know how did your malnutrition, by food or by multivitamins? If multivitamins, in which form? Pls 🙏
@@titfortatt-regionalist This one day I was doing my usual iced tea with WAY too much sugar in it and it just suddenly hit me - this is why I'm having problems. The massive sugar intake was no doubt the most of it, but once I decided to cut back, I had to face the reality of replacing it with actual food. At that time I was also having massive psychological problems from a long history of physical and mental abuse, so I still thought that I was God's Mistake, "The Stain on the World", and so I really wasn't concerned with existing. In fact, I thought if I died, everyone would be happier. Wasn't until I started to develop rage over the abuse that I started to think in any way that my health mattered, so I wasted yet more years just not trying. Anyone that tried to care for me was rewarded with a kind of "What's wrong with you?" attitude, and I was still punishing myself any way possible WHILE being increasingly angry about people punishing me. Wouldn't make sense unless you've been there. After several years I simply started eating and drinking better, and caring about living instead of hating myself so much. I believe it was those things that made the most difference. I gained so much weight that I started to look buff, and I would stare at myself in the mirror like "Who are you?" Took forever to get used to that, like, nearly 20 years. Also, I had moved to a nice place on a farm in the country, which did me wonders, and my then gf was freakishly into supplements of all kinds. Still, I won't tell you it was the vities and such that did it. It wasn't. It was a change in self, in mind, and in spirit. I grew some self worth. When you do that, you heal thyself, despite all the wounds.
It’s late at night and I personally, in my own story, am unsurprisingly on a low dosage of shrooms exploring the universe instead of doing the responsible thing of going to sleep at a reasonable hour for work. I come across this video, and in some way through all the vast means that the world has to offer, it shows me this video as an answer to one of my deepest questions. It hit me like a wave, a sudden and sharp “wait, I just felt like there was someone else here, inside my skin, someone I haven’t seen in a LONG time.” A sense of familiarity from my childhood, full of wonder and clarity that my 26 year old brain is all too alien to understand anymore, but still holds a sense of nostalgia. You answered EVERYTHING, and used all the same paths I used to get to the conclusions. Fantastic video, and super helpful in my own personal journey. Thanks man.
It makes sense to me (non neurologically trained) that we’d have multiple “people” within our mind simultaneously. When we experience massive amounts of trauma our brain is our most essential survival trait is our brain and it must compensate.
The conclusion that there must be multiple personalities or consciousness from this experiment seems like a massive stretch. The brain keeps working as it would but information isn't being passed to both sides. That's literally all they've proven, not that these people now had two consciousness
@@adamdunne6645 in a corpus callosotomy, the hemispheres still have lesser alternative connections through the brainstem and spinal cord, but yeah you're right.
@@adamdunne6645 I can tell that you think very shallowly. The information not passing to both sides can be used to infer other things, and at least bring them into discussion. And no one said anything about multiple conciousness' and thats how i know you didn't understand the video. The idea was that conciousness was a combination of all of these parts of the brain. He said multiple "you's", not multiple personalities or multiple conciousnesses like you seemed to think he said. Please, open up your mind and look at everything from a different point of view because right now you seem very skeptical about something even though it was merely a thoery on this guys behalf involving his book.
My mom had both seizures and multiple personality disorder. I grew up with that as my normal. So I have always referenced my brain as separate from my self. Can have arguments with myself with good responses of opposing ideas. Kinda nice I think most people can do that just some people dont.
Fun fact: some people seem to lack the ability to have an internal monologue. As strange as it sounds the ability to talk to yourself in your head might not be universal.
@@MattH-wg7ouNot THAT rare. A quick Google says 1.5% have DID but lets say it's ene 10th if that. That mean 1200 of the viewers of this video has DID. Or one 100th 120. Secondly a friend of mine have DID due to a mother with Munchausen by Proxy (that is even less common), and it's very interesting to experience. It cripples her life but my bet is that is what kept her alive.
Ive got an internal constant code processor of useless info. I turn words into numbers and then add all the digits to see the words "total" then i ascribe some kind of significance to the number whatever it is. I see my birthday constantly and backward as well. Or i subtract things you normally dont. Like i was born 5 10 84. Subtract 15 from 84 u got 69. So i got a birth total number of 69. Pretty funny. Also nuerotic as hell but ive learned to deal w it.
I remember one time on a acid trip feeling a sense of an "Ununified" self. I could hear all of the trillions of cells in my body firing off and talking to each other. It was like I had a whole galaxy full of stars cheering me on and rooting for our collective benefit. This video makes me feel like that experience wasn't so illusory as it seemed at the time. It's almost like the sensation of schizophrenia where you start to disassociate and experience the other voices as not your own but instead I was hyper aware that all of the voices were indeed coming from what I perceived to be "Me" Single Unified consciousness is an illusion 🤔
I had a similar experience. You feel EVERY part of your body. I remember even feeling the blood pumping through my veins. It was such a beautiful feeling. I think our bodies naturally “silence” all of these voices to help us focus on surviving.
My (many) lsd experiences always made me think i was connecting all my "selves" with all the "selves" of everything else with consciousness, so yes in the singular, unified consciousness seems an illusion, but grand scheme wise, it seems we all link consciously at some higher level than science yet understands, I always referred to it as 6th or 7th senses, 6th being aware of others feelings like they are your own, and 7th being that sense of being many at once, yet still single. (if that made sense to you awesome, cause most ppl i say things like this to look at me as a nut or a demon, when in reality if we knew we were ALL from the same "whole consciousness" at some level, who would ever hurt anyone intentionally?)
Same in shroms, just don't know what's past, future, present, memories, taste, sound, colors, etc. Strange as fuck, every external and internal stimuli change everything at the point that my conscious understand that I died but don't understand why I'm still existing.
Fascinating! I have "Multiple Personality Disorder" aka "Disassociation Identity Disorder". Your video helps me understand how my brain might have built the neurological "walls" it needed to establish in order for me to emotionally survive the trauma of my childhood. In fact, my internal "house" has a structure that looks like rooms where my different personalities each "live" and have their own space. It has been a journey working with my therapist these past 16 years to find my way through the maze of my own mind. The brain is an amazing organ. Thank you.
OH MY GOSH!! SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS IT! Forgive my enthusiasm, I'm just impressed! What is it like? DID/OSDD is so common for kids to fake. I've only ever met one person (two including you) who actually have it. I've always been fascinated by it, but information is so scarce and muddled by 14 year olds faking it to roleplay as a Roblox character or a character from whatever is trending at the moment (Encanto, Hazbin Hotel, etc)... Do you feel comfortable talking about your experiences or elaborating? Again, sorry if this is all a bit too intrusive 😅
I had my first ever seizure 3 years ago whilst in a hospital for something else. I remember waking up and hearing peoples voices. I think one was saying "he's coming round" and saying my name. At first i didn't know what was going on and i couldn't feel anything, and within a few seconds i remember seeing things around me. Someone asked "do you know where you are?". I had one arm free and reached forward into air and studied my environment. It took me a couple of seconds to work out that i was on my side on a floor with peoples legs in front of me. "Im on a floor" i said. All the legs were weird because they were pointing sideways from my perspective. I recognised a pair of shoes and said "oh, ive just seen you" (in the appointment i was in for). After that i became away i was being heavily restrained from behind, with my other arm up my back and a nurses knee bracing my back also. Some sort of recovery position. Anyway, im ok now. Its not quite as good an experience as others on here but it was definitely akin to booting up.
I thought about the "one but divided" consciousness theory, but it's dead impossible to explain. Or just it seemed so. You've managed, I'm so glad to hear more people talk about it!
It's more evidence on the mountain of evidence that proves free will is nothing more than incredible illusion; yet something our brains cook up without our consent.
Neuroscience with FMRI scans and other tests, is starting to show that "consciousness" is an illusion. There is no one "you", it's really a bunch of separate processes that get formed into the illusion of a whole. And it doesn't even happen in real-time, your brain edits your recent memory to insert the illusion! So, you do a thing, without really "intending" to. Then the brain edits your memory to put "I intend to do this thing" just before you actually did it. You still have intent, or at least, it seems you do, but it doesn't work nearly as simply as it seems to. Even without MRI there's tricks scientists can use. And people with severe brain injuries, localised to one or two areas, who survived, have provided all sorts of examples, sometimes shocking.
@@Ardeactlol well if there's another "me" inside of my mind, then he's a total a-hole for insulting me all the time and bringing me down, whichever me that is....
Now the question is how much the personalities of the two halves equal to each other. It's really fascinating and I hope there will be more research about this!
This is hands down one of the coolest things I've seen on RUclips. What I learned here will definitely change the way I look at alot of things. Im so glad when I see actual content on reels and not just stupid skits/trends. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
After studying these split brain cases in college, I came to realize that the sense of self is indeed an illusion. I believe that the self is an ever evolving pattern of information, we are not human beings but rather human becomings. Every moment a distinctly different you emerges defined by unique psychological and physiological states. I’ve had many debates with friends discussing the fundamental question “who am I?” , it’s quite refreshing and validating to see someone else express these same ideas so eloquently in this video. I’m very interested in reading your book, where may I find it?
My feeling is that consciousness or identity is unnecessary therefore likely to be an illusion. As long as I believe I am real, I am real. This to me is somewhat substantiated because we make up entire identity characteristics of others merely upon their appearance. If we without evidence believe our constructs about others, and everyone is constructing these identities for others, then would we not have our self identity confirmed without ever actually having to have one. If nature can perform this short-hand then consciousness is redundant and thus without evolutionary necessity.
...and maybe, as well as being individual human-becomings, (becoming what exactly...?) we are also separate parts of a single life-form called the human race. Every new evolutionary state of each individual is at the same time a small part of the process of an evolving whole...that we may call earth. Or the universe. Or the multiverse. Or god.
Whatever you said in this comment, sire, is indicative of you moving in the right direction, if that's what you found from experience it's all the better...you just have to get the thrust from an appropriate master...trust me it's all you need right now
Good video. Thanks. I recall many years ago seeing a two headed snake in an aquarium. One head had full control the body. Whenever the snake moved the head not in control would drag it’s open mouth in the sand. This disturbed me. I couldn’t help but relate to the snake. That led me on a journey of realizing I was composed of multiple selves, one in conscious control , others occasionally acting out their frustration with that self by various self- sabotaging actions.
I've thought about the possibility of a personality being composed of a "committee" of people in our minds for a long time. But your comment and analogy with the snake really put that idea into words better than I ever managed. It really explains the absurdity of our self-contradictory and self- destructive actions beautifully.
As someone with DID, this was one of my initial thoughts when watching this vid. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
@@single_dad_of3 in my experience it’s not so much as a visual stimuli but a perspective, when “different consciousness do not agree” it’s like having 2 or more perspective options to choose in from in ur brain and it’s up to u which one to follow. DID is like having a body that will peel your face/personality right off and replace it with a new/different one on there without your acknowledging your own will. You have one body but many masks to put on. DID is like you can feel/hear/understanding the world through your own lens that you can adjust based on the perspectives of the version of you at the current state. Though, keep in mind the most prominent thing with people with DID is the fact that we feel like passengers in our own body and free-will is an illusion. Hope this helps n hope it makes sense lmao
The brain is not multiple selves. These experiments show that when they split brains, both brains continue to function independently, but, that doesn't mean there's two consciousnesses. As long as each half of the brain is connected to the nervous system, each half can independently control the rest of the body. This just means there's two independently functioning brains, regardless of whether the consciousness occupies one side or the other, or whether it still controls both sides simultaneously, or whether it alternates between sides if that's a plausible possibility in his situation. I'm assuming that each eye is on a separate, independent circuit to each half of the brain, and same for each ear, but it's not clear that this is the case for the rest of the body. An interesting experiment would be to completely separate the stimuli going into the right half from the stimuli going into the left half, and then seeing if there was any way for that information from the right half to show up in the left half or vice versa, at that time or at a later time, without any physical information sharing going on between the two halves via the body. This experiment would test for whether the man's consciousness has access to both right and left sides of the brain while not being physically limited by the brain's and body's connections.
While I've held these ideas of consciousness before, when it comes to the split brain experiment I never actually thought it ceased information flow between brains. I assumed that since the human body always seemed so interconnected and elaborate that they'd find some way to exchange information.
That's called being sociopathic. The ability to manipulate ones own emotions, turn them off even. It is not the misconceived lack of emotion... Also, people can live full normal lives and never realize. In fact, the Doctor who discovered it... discovered it by accident when his own brain scans got mixed in with the ones he was studying. He himself, being a sociopath. (They can see it on cat scans?) Brain has some sort of pattern. Also if what you said WAS true... I am not a doctor and I can't diagnose you. But you're def most likely a sociopath. The issues stim, when you turn of your emotions to do terrible things. Remember to feel, otherwise you might stop being able too.@@SilverStarFour
@@SilverStarFourignore the commenter above sociopath isn’t a diagnostic criteria and hasn’t been for decades, also anti social personality disorder isn’t quite the same, what you are describing is disassociation, it’s a mental way of protecting ones self, it’s not anything wrong with you but it can cause problems, so maybe talk to a counselor or therapist about it if you have the chance, but you don’t exactly have to stop doing it just don’t let it take over cause it can cause long term emotional troubles down the road (speaking from personal experience)
@@EC-dz4bq sociopath and psychopath are both outdated and not really accurate, what you are talking about is either the physical structure of schizophrenia, or the different development of people with antisocial personality disorder both of which can be seen on brain scans and used to be considered under those older diagnostic criteria, now for the other section, being able to shut off ones emotions is usually a side effect of heavy dissociation.
Back in the 70's I was working on the psychiatric floor of a hospital. A gentleman there was blind but was convinced he could see. He would tell you what he thought you looked like and what you were wearing.
I can't really diagnose him with that info, but he might have Anton syndrome. Usually I think it's seen in patients who have a Posterior cerebral artery stroke. It can be seen in other pathologies too ofcourse.
Incredibly fascinating. I like to believe that people who experience hallucinations are experiencing a version of reality that we just aren't tuned into.
I love the simple question "Who are you?". The answer may seem simple, you're a chef, a construction worker, a technician, or a mom or a dad, you're a celebrity, an influencer or just a nice person. Fine answers, but those are things you do or can do. Then you may start listing up a list of personality traits, calm, energetic, thoughtful, sincere, curious, etc. Again, fine answers, but those are things you outwardly appear, the person I see. "Who are you?" is so much deeper, it's a question you truly can't answer. Who truly is this entity, beyond brain activity and neuros, this "observer"? The one experiencing everything once you remove everything else from the picture and only you yourself can confirm exists and nobody else. It's kinda unsettling, equal when you first ask that question yourself perhaps when you're a kid and realize you can't answer it and it gives you this uncomfortable feeling which nobody else can answer for you either, like you can feel the panic behind it. Once again though, are we truly the person that is panicking? The technician dad who's a calm and sincere person, are we them, or are we the observer sitting behind a 4th wall pretending we are this person and feeling what it is to be something? Where is the illusion drawn? Whether the illusion is consciousness the brain produces to appear whole or the illusion is everything else the brain does to the "you" to think we are what we observe and experience, both are fascinating, or if there's something else or more we don't know.
This reminds me of how some scientists suggest octopuses' have "distributed brains" that all work together. It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the mechanics, for them and us (and all things with brains).
This is so crazy. I’ve always felt like people around me have been engraved in my brain and have become apart of myself/personality. Love to hear someone say this because it makes me feel understood.
As someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), this video really resonated with me. There are similarities in the compartmentalization described in this video with DID. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
Been reading about this the last couple of months. Currently studying a lot about trauma therapy and trauma. The degree to which traumatic experiences can shape the development of the brain is astonishing and scary at the same time.
Love your work, thanks! One technical point… ChatGPT: The right eye itself does not connect solely to the left brain hemisphere. Instead, it’s the right field of vision from both eyes that connects to the left hemisphere of the brain. Here’s how it works: - Each eye's field of vision is divided into two parts: the left visual field and the right visual field. - The left visual field of both eyes is processed by the right hemisphere of the brain. - The right visual field of both eyes is processed by the left hemisphere of the brain. This means that the left half of the retina in each eye (which captures the right visual field) sends signals to the left hemisphere, and the right half of the retina in each eye (which captures the left visual field) sends signals to the right hemisphere. The visual information from each eye crosses over at the optic chiasm, allowing the brain to process visual inputs in a coordinated manner.
Man you are so right. As I was watching the video it reminded me of my first mushroom experience, where I found myself observing "myself" from the outside. Consciousness is really something else
@@Imhotep_DrummerJones Know your substance, be in a nice and secure feeling setting with only a person or people you trust, explore the foothills (dosage wise) to become familiar with the terrain before aiming for the snowy mountaintops, relax and submit to the experience - I hope you find it at least half as helpful for healing as I do. 🥰
5:20 As a software engineer I find this interesting, as it is the exact same behavior those large language model AI’s like ChatGPT display when confronted with information they don’t have: inventing a story to explain the discrepancy instead of realizing that something isn’t right.
@@Сталкер-ь2хI think of it more of like a separate piece than a full half. Our brains do a lot of stuff. We have dedicated parts which handle stuff like recognizing facial expressions or just processing eyesight. Having ChatGPT is likely a lot like splitting a brain in the sense that it's just one piece that would normally have many many other pieces alongside it. But, I think it's a very interesting idea to look at the similarities. I wonder what would happen if you just cobbled together a bunch of different kinds of AI models and tried to wire them similarly to humans. Hard to say, but the future is both terrifying and exciting
@@kneesnap1041 interestingly enough, some people already succesfully used 2 AIs together, for example to teach one AI how to drive in trackmania a second ai was used to scan monitor in-game and transfer decoded monitor data to first ai, who is responsible for actions (hope this was clear enough)
At a young age, I questioned how others had seen me. How I can't see myself outside my body. This was my consciousness questioning my own existence of how the world saw me. Crazy cool to think.
I don't have a split brain and I notice it quite often. For example when I'm High if you tell me something I need some time to be able to reflect on it as if I didn't internalize the information yet but I can instantly respond as if I already did process the information. The part of me that speaks knows what was said and can elaborate a response but the interference of THC makes it take time for the part of me that makes plans to receive the information. When I study I'm not High so there isn't a gap so stark that I can talk about something I have no real understanding of but there is a noticeable gap in time between when I read something and when I understand it and I need to constantly take pauses to let my whole brain keep up the pace, and by the way I am not a slow learner, in fact I am incredibly quick at studying probably because I can understand so clearly when my whole brain is up to speed which massively reduces back tracking, in fact I don't backtrack at all. Moving from information absorption to elaboration I often get micro-feelings connected to superficial insights into my behaviour because a smaller part of my brain hasn't internalized properly why I behaved a certain way, which prompts me to quite literally ask another part of me why I did something so that I can relay it back and assuade those micro-feelings which promptly dissolve into my general consciousness as a result. There aren't multiple parts of us vying for control, I can attest to being all the parts of me, sometimes simply an information doesn't get passed around evenly or there is an issue in communication and that creates a sense of separation but it's not a separation like that between two consciousnesses it's more like getting a cut and feeling it in your left arm but not your right arm only the cut is an information gap and like a cut it tends to heal itself, we are just often too distracted by the outside or our thoughts to notice these silent imbalances.
Well said. THC has given many people a higher quality of life, no pun intended. I smoke recreationally. I don't promote smoking recreationally. I don't condemn those who do. You have incredible self awareness.
That's the problem with cannabinoids (etc.) - they do give so many illusions and delusions that in the end you will most likely end up with the rest of them - not sure of anything, or of 'where the ground lies' and mildly or severely psychotic, in a world where everything becomes subjective. That's only in relation to 'the rest of us', of course, yet many like that are eventually unable to take care of themselves, let alone others. It's a very dangerous game which has become a sport. I can only wish you good luck.
And there you have it, a perfect example of what consciousness is. I believe every single lifeform goes through the same kind of processes you just described, with slight variations of course. One of your variations however is that you are able to verbalize these processes. If they are objectively correct or not does not really matter experiantially because it is all a play from «your» consciousness and what makes you «you». Because you feel that all of these different parts are «you» does not disregard that you are in fact a superorganism that consists of several «you’s». It is important to distinguish between a self and consciousness. We are not talking about several consiousnesses. In this setting that would not make any sense at all because consciousness is not a «thing» that can be measured by any means (as of now at least). Think of consciousness as an infinitely large canvas and all the parts of «you» are the content on that canvas. So, your explanation is just «your» consciousness making sense of it all. In some sense your explanation is a perfect confirmation of what this video brought up. But hey, this is just «my» consciousness trying to make sense of it all.
The multiple personalities is one of the easiest ways to come to grips with why humans are different from AI. The biggest difference between us and AI is that we can ask ourselves questions before we come to any conclusions about answers. However, when we say 'ask ourselves', what we don't usually realize is that we are actually communicating with different parts/personalities within ourselves with each and every interaction that we make. If someone created an AI that was really 2 AI that would confirm and deny different questions within itself before it gave any answer, it would be incredibly close to the way a human thinks.
@@TheMaliciousZephyr This isn't about the AI developing consciousness on it's own. It's about us figuring out how to make an AI conscious in the same way a person is.
My extensive meditation practice has also made me realize this in my own experience. But lately I've had some new insights into the nature of consciousness and its even more baffling. When you descend the layers of perception, removing more and more filters, at some point perception ceases to exist and its all just vibrations and pulses, all the senses start collapsing into the same kind of vibrations and the whole universe is just vibrating into existence along with consciousness. In fact one could say that the universe is made out of consciousness. Not sure what to make of this, I guess its a thing now
@@hellucination9905 Well then let me illustrate my point using this very sentence you're reading: Notice the screen these words are appearing on, the shape and color of the letters. Notice how you are aware of these shapes and colors. Notice the voice in your head, that appears as you read these words. Maybe also notice the image of yourself reading, as you hear them. Now notice that you are also aware of all of these things. See that you are aware of everything you percieve. Of these shapes and colors, the voice in your mind that is making sounds from the letters. You could say that everything you percieve is infused with awareness. But what is awareness? Start focusing on the shared quality of all these perceptions, this awakeness. What is it made of? Do not think about it, just look, feel. Do not focus on the content of experience, focus on the experience of awakeness.
That sounds amazing. I do a section of my meditation where I ask ‘who perceives?’ I’ve noticed I cannot hear a sound without identifying it. This makes me feel I don’t have access to my actual perceptions but only after they’ve been processed by some non conscious part of me.
I know of a lady who had purchased her mother's home, the house where she had gown up and her mother had a little apartment of her own, until her mother developed a brain tumor. The tumor was operable and they were able to remove it, but the woman lost all of her memories of the last 20 years. When they got the diagnosis of the brain tumor, they moved mom back into the house setting her up in what had been the daughter's room. Before the surgery mom even mentioned it was strange situation. But after the surgery her daughter wasn't a successful 33 year old married woman, she was 13 again. Her beardly teenaged daughter had "taken over" her house and was sleeping in *HER* room with an adult man. The woman called the police, and the police were very confused when a grown woman answered the door. It was not easy convincing the mother that she had lost the last 20 years of memories, that it was 2003, not 1983, and her daughter was married and now owned her house, but things did eventually settle down. However, she never regained her lost memories.
I never read about this, never experienced brain abnormalities, and never took heavy drugs, but I had observed exactly this in my own mind. When paying close attention to my consciousness, I noticed distinct signals coming from distinct sources simultaneously and that different parts of "me" take control of "me" in different instances. I noticed this in other people as well, where different sides of their personalities (that appear unrelated or out of continuity) take turns running the show in different moments. Like everything else, parts form (the semblance of) a whole.
@@dinguskong5828 nothing that profound, just meditation/mindfulness techniques, as different thoughts arise and disappear you can observe and recognize they're mixed signals coming from all over the place rather than a neat, stable, singular throughline of conscious intention
It is very interesting how we have sort of these different 'selves' to us which comprise the whole. Even more interesting are the dichotomies between them. This is a huge ramble, but bear with me. I've only bothered because I think you have a perspective that will make what I have to say interesting for you. I'm curious what you think, even if you only touch one stone on my wall. I might be in a unique position to experience that split-mind thing lol. I have ADHD, so I can't get away from how nonlinear my thoughts are. The only time things are linear, I have little perception of thought. I am in hyperfocus and am doing, not thinking. I wrote everything below in one, and although I went back a lot and added more, I still did not have a sense that I was 'thinking.' During hyperfocus, my mind only cares about doing, not the experience of doing or what it means. I do not contemplate a thing. I just type words and after reading them know that I had some thoughts. No hyperbole, that's what it is for me. But I do suspect that everyone else's thoughts are similarly nonlinear. The thing I lack, that they have, is an ability to organize them into a narrative, to make a fully linear presentation of them. Our egos, I think, like to hide the losers in those little dichotomies regardless. They identify more with some parts than others and this leads us to perceive things as being more ordered than they are... as though there is a final sequencing step that smooths it all over on the conscious end. My mind has trouble picking who won and who lost, and even more trouble remembering them. So it's all much more messy in my internal world. But to me that could be just a difference in inner perception more than it is a difference in how the drives ultimately function. I look at regular people, the thought's they express and the ways they act. In some ways they are unarguably more organized, but in no ways are they any more apparently consistent than me in their actual experiencing of things, let alone their accounts. Just ask on a different day and see. Ask later on the same day and see. They are more organized than me with my ADHD, but less irrational and emotionally driven? Ehhh.... mostly just more concise in expressing the ones they recognize in themselves in any given moment. It doesn't strike me as different emotions, or a different overall experience. Just a different ordering of an otherwise very similar mind to mine. To be totally honest, I'm not entirely convinced consciousness is even something that we willingly control, so much as it is a story our own brain tells itself about processes that run deeper down... like an echo... something more communicable that other minds, with their own tangled webs, can then digest and react to with an echo of their own. I think it's *reasonably* self-evident that we are reactive creatures who often don't obey our own conscious rationality in action. We have all of these things in mind about who and what we are, but when the rubber meets the road and we get out there, it changes us in ways we often don't even realize and we have reactions that we ourselves don't fully understand. It makes me wonder if consciousness is really doing what it says on the tin. It's easy to think of it like the manager of your subconscious staff members, but honestly it could just as easily be a quirk in evolution that just so happened to not kill us, just another regular in that group of 'subconscious actors.' Just the only one that can 'talk.' The thing I question is the sense of awareness, and whether that awareness itself COMES from consciousness, or is merely perceived by it. Is it also the awareness, or just the awareness of the awareness? Take emotions. Are emotions even a product of consciousness at all, or something that's already there, that we can experience through consciousness? Biologically, such holdovers are more common than you'd expect. We have entire organs we don't need, as do many others. I doubt if we even need it to process information in more complex ways. More like, when you have a creature with a brain suitably complex in processing, the phenomenon will manifest itself. This doesn't mean it's doing anything, or that it has to be there for advanced problem-solving. Just that the way our problem-solving organ develops, manifests the phenomenon somehow, somewhere along the line of following biological imperatives. All of the problem-solving we do could theoretically be done by all of those little voices, without a bigger one to hear it all and relay it in the conscious realm. I think the only loss is the ability to articulate information that itself is still very abstract in that it's packed up in this construct we call language. Constructs seem to be a strictly conscious thing. A mind that doesn't know it's a mind never thinks to form them, right? It doesn't need placeholders for things in an experience it doesn't know it has (or maybe doesn't have at all.) I wonder what lives in the minds of animals who are seemingly far less communicative, but similarly advanced in terms of smarts. I bet it's very different when you don't have to communicate as many things in as many ways. And yet many animals are startlingly intelligent... and some can't even really think in anything resembling words as far as we know. Yet they solve problems that for us would require conscious reasoning. What if they're as 'smart' as us and just process things so differently that our own minds can't interface with it, can't perceive what's going on, or even backtrace it? I think sometimes we forget how little we know about how minds work, or what they even are in a fundamental, tangible sense. Or maybe it's more like some kind of psuedo-Hegalean synthesis. Whichever impulses win out decide what your consciousness looks like. Sometimes multiple ones align. Other times they tie and you experience dissonance. Again, are these things we control, or echos of things that have already happened? Is consciousness a distinct thing of its own, or simply the way a complex conglomerate of more primitive elements presents? Where does it actually factor into the whole? I've never quite been able to place it. I mean, if it's the final step in our processing, I can't imagine it actually has much left to do. But it definitely thinks it does everything. Why is that? What's the purpose? To suffer and crave a meaning our own minds can't fully define? The quest for meaning, and the lack, is a major killer. I mean, literally. People die for the sake of meaning, in all sorts of ways. I can't imagine survival odds are improved by becoming depressed when you don't have fun, or someone in your tribe passes. But perhaps it is tied to our eusociality. The mind organization that brings us these pains, allows us a further layer of organization as groups, individual minds like cells in a bigger brain. Safe to say, however that's really done, it has advanced us to wildly different levels than other animals. Agriculture and other technological feats are easier done with an experience-of-experiencing things to communicate and build empathy around, and a mind that forms constructs suitable for complex communication. I've thought a lot about pros/cons with our consciousness... still can't figure out what the thing's actually for, why we even have a self-reflective subjective experience to begin with. We could survive fine, or even better as automatons. But instead we got these weird, irrational thingies that shadowbox themselves at the tiniest, least important impasses. I mean, I am grateful. But probably only because I am conscious already and now fear losing it, because the experience has become something that matters to me, something I very strongly don't want to see the end of. I don't know why that is either. Kinda just going with it. I do wonder though, if you gave an intelligent creature lacking our consciousness exactly that... would it even want it? Or maybe the better question to ask is... *could* it want it? Could it know want without the sort of consciousness we have? Would it need to in order for the want to be a factor in what it does? And if so, does that change how want factors in? What actually is the difference between having want and knowing that you have want? I wonder if it's even possible to fully distinguish those things while being conscious. It all sounds bleak, but subjectivity is inescapable due to the very sensory biasing that allows us to so much as see a rock coming at us and dodge it in time. So you can reasonably form a philosophy around the meaning the biases form. Even if consciousness is an echo, it impacts our experience more than anything else. And that experience is the realest thing any of us know. It's not like that stops mattering if things are more deterministic than they seem. If it matters to you, you might as well accept that, as things aren't just going to stop mattering. And when they do you won't be happy. With this sort of determinism the happiness just moves into a slightly newer location. Same game, though. The one insight that has helped me by looking at the mind more deterministically, was seeing change as a function of input. Meaning, if you grow a different garden, it sprouts a different mind. You cannot directly ask the plants to grow faster/better/different, any more than you can think yourself out of who you are. But the experiences you have will change who you are over time. By cultivating the right experiences for yourself, you can change how you think about your own experiences. A big part of managing ADHD is cultivating surroundings that make you think better. Half of the time I don't know why it even works, and I'm puzzled by why it doesn't matter that I don't know what I did to get the right reaction, if consciousness is doing so much for me. TBH, MY conscious mind mostly breeds confusion. The best, most important choices I've ever made were on intuition.
Ran out of words to tell you I blew youtube's character limit on my comment. Sorry for that. If it's any consolation, it speaks well of you that I would. Most things barely engage me at all. I'm inattentive type ADHD. You did a good job coming up with an interesting observation and my mind was like a dog with a nice big rawhide.
The Buddha figued this out himself after meditating for a really goddamn long time. Called it not-self, was big on pointing out how we're just a big pile of thoughts that only last for a moment each, like a river where every drop of water flows away. His only mistake was that he didn't know that consciousness arises from our brain specifically, so he instead leaned on contemporary ideas about reincarnation. The upshot is that the more aware you are of that process, the more you realize that there's no "you" anyways, the easier it is to stop yourself from getting pissed at things, and then getting pissed that you're getting pissed at things. You can just grab that train of thought by the neck and tell it to shut up in the first place. Become the conductor directing it all rather than being conducted.
Consciousness as multiple individual consciousnesses is just one way of looking at it. Listen to the patient, he doesn't feel different. His sense of self is still in tact. Just because you broke something doesn't mean you have a deep understanding of how it works.
I concur. Under normal circumstances the brain is still getting audiovisual parity due to each half still getting an eye and an ear each. They can’t talk to each-other, but there seems to still be one identity the halves maintain. The “cohesive I”has become the “royal I.”
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 The "evidence" is literally just breaking the pathway of info between the 2 hemispheres of the brain and then wondering like mongoloids why the info isnt passing through☠️ its like cutting a cable and then wondering why it doesn't work anymore 😭.
@JM-lv5fu just FYI, my initial comment was agreeing with you. No sure if I did a good enough job expressing that. I would say we can prove that subconscious and consciousness exists, but that's about it. We can evidence one way of viewing it or another, but until we understand consciousness better, proofs are going to be well put of reach.
I think the problem is that we tend to see consciousness as this one binary thing that you can switch on or off. In my experience, it’s more like multiple layers that work together. Just now as I’m writing this, there first was the thought. Then I put it into words. And while I put it into words, I don’t really think about how every word is spelled, and I also don’t really think about where I need to move my fingers on my keyboard. I am aware of my fingers moving to the right keys, and I somehow direct them there, but it’s not really a conscious thought. In fact I can write without looking at my keyboard, but If you asked me where a specific key is, then I would take much longer to answer that question than it would take me to just press the right key. Or think about how you learned to drive a car; after some time you automatically did the right things without really thinking about them, but you are still in control. So I think Consciousness is not a switch that can be turned on and off, but rather like a chain of command with one “boss” at the top, that thing we would normally call our Consciousness, but it delegates most simple tasks to weaker, less complex versions of itself, rather than micromanaging everything.
I immediately thought of Bernardo Kastrup, a contemporary philosopher who proposes a consciousness-only ontology. He appeals to well-established psychology and neuroscience to ground his work in reason and empirical evidence, and his model fits perfectly with what you described here. Would suggest anyone interested to look into his philosophy
My mother was diagnosed originally with schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, and then disassociated personality disorder. (I don't recall the exact terms) She has what she can clearly identify as 9 separate individuals in her mind, she believes she has more, but can clearly identify 9 by name which is wild. Claims they talk to her everyday. She seems pretty normal, has an IQ of 155 as tested many times over the years, and seems for the most part functions just fine. She said she's just learned to live with these "people talking to her". They sometimes point things out to her, tell her things she's not aware of are happening, argue with her, and she will often respond to them verbally. I asked her once if she could answer them in her head and not verbally, and surprisingly she said she doesn't know, she has always just responded to them verbally like they were there in person She's a mystery to me, as she is extremely smart and very intuitive, but at times can also seem a little off, also once diagnosed as bi-polar. It's not like movies, where she start talking in different voices or acting wildly different, she always seems like she's in control and she's herself. As always felt she would be a great study, as if you sit her crazy ass down you can get her to really start discussing things pretty in-depth with good self awareness of it. She knows it's not normal, so it's not like she's unaware that it's a little crazy. I played her this video and she ran out her room screaming "stop!!!!!, what is this?" She was very interested in the topic as she's was dying to find any sort of answer to her lived experience. She had never heard of this and I think just the idea of a lot of conscious experiences living in a single person struck a cord with her. Cool video. Down the rabbit hole I gom
As my mother was dying from covid and lewy body dementia, she began acting completely different, like an entirely different personality had taken her. I could definitely see it in her face, it was terrifying, and she was saying things that only made sense if she was psychic. I'm a firm believer in the spiritual, now. I've seen how my spirit can be twisted into imagining the worst in everything, and the pain that can be inflicted on a soul, I will always stay kind until I can't anymore. God bless all the mysteries of life ❤
I always noticed when I look at people's eyes each person has 2 different eyes. It's hard to explain but in every person the left and right look dramatically different and never knew why. This kind of makes sense
Could this be why, after my husband had a stroke and lost sight in one eye, he became consistently laid- back for the first time in his life? Also, one half of his brain became necrotic, yet he still functions almost as well as he ever did.
I have dissociative identity disorder, and everything this video said about many consciousnesses fighting for control is a perfect description of my everyday life. Luckily though we're all friends, generally being more like a bunch of separate people who are roommates (headmates?) rather than different versions of just one person fighting for control.
this is how someone explained DID to me a couple years ago, and it made much more sense. Everyone has multiple parts of themselves, and they merge together when you get older. But for some people who go through major trauma, it doesn’t. And the brain stays disconnected from each other, all be it some overlap.
Fascinating, this is like having a computer with the same memory then at some point, the partition splits in half and one side has the pictures and the other one the motor instructions. After a long while without them being connected, the information will vastly differ from one another as it keeps collecting data, so in time it also modifies its "personality". But that means, we don't actually have multiple personalities, the phenomenon just happens if we split the brain in different sections who can't cooperate together anymore.
As a 20 year victim of various Transient Global Amnesia experiences I can attest to the fact that when only one of our normal brain functions is altered or impaired, your concept of “self” is drastically changed
I have a form of schizophrenia in where I suffer from sudden bursts of intense emotion completely without context or warning, the current working theory is that I have a " misconection " between the two halves of my brain
@@mks-onefor me It's like having memories but feeling like they're not your own, people you once knew feeling like strangers that you've never met but you still remember them somehow
Let's be real however that having brain injury, psychological disorder doesn't in fact mean anyone has 2 (or more) seperate fully consient beings inside of them fighting for control like this video claims. People may have a disturbed selse of self and reality. Brain functions may conflict but it is an impairment of one single conscious being. Only people with 2 full consiousnesses in 1 body are siamese twins. We should not sensationalize, misinterpret these things further confusing and disturbing vulnerable people. Let alone affirming the schizophrenic in their delusions, disorder. Drawing a hammer and describing a handsaw doesn't mean contain are 2 seperate consiousnesses. It shows a disconnect in your brain function. Just like how cutting off your testicles, penis and dressing like a girl doesn't make you a girl.
I am an avid lucid dreamer and have dream journals going back to 1991. One thing I have no doubt of, there are multiple regions of the brain working together and coordinating on a nearly imperceptible level because our conscious thought and awareness is the end result of the process and takes place as the aftermath of that coordination. Its like trying to the route you drove to get somewhere that you are already at. In dreams we often interact with dream characters. When lucid dreaming especially, there are some people who stand there like mannequins or just move through the background, some are like generic NPCs in a game, ones you can have a conversation with, and others that will challenge your claims of being the dreamer and accuse you of being in their dream. I believe that most, if not all, dream characters, and most everything else, are individual regions of the brain interacting. That bad dream character will ALWAYS be friendly when you approach and accept it. I also think there are at least 3 distinct layers of consciousness running the show and they can interact in a dream as well although the language can be a bit difficult. I assume that is because 1 or 2 of these seats of consciousness don't have direct access to standard communication. Interesting experiments can be done and there are others out there exploring. Many treat it as spiritual, many as simple firing off of random bits, and some are trying to crack consciousness with lucid dreaming and there are some promising results out there.
When i start altering the dream sometimes dream entities become hostile or despawn and new hostile ones spawn like I wasn't supposed to know and i fight them off and or flee with powers like flight telekinesis speed strength and invulnerability to damage or regeneration but still feel pain and fatigue.
I am hella intrigued by what you've written and now I'm wondering about some stuff!! So theoretically, if you would google translate a word into a language you don't yet know in a lucid dream and try to remember it - will it show something accurate or just gibberish? Or let's say you're asking a person to write a random word on a paper, put it in your drawer without looking at it, and in the lucid dream you go to that drawer and look at the word - will it be accurate once you check in reality? Or when you eat a food you've never tasted? Explore down a road you've seen in reality but never actually took the next corner? Will any of that work, or will it just be filled up with familiar and unsensible things? I wanted to learn how to lucid dream years ago, and I tried for a long time and only got one in the end. That was long ago, and I really struggle with dream clarity so I've kinda given up on that. I always wondered if you could communicate with your subconscious in a lucid dream or even go back to relive very old memories like they just happened yesterday - might that be possible?
One mind-changing dream I had. I was in an office meeting, when I realized I've never had a job where I would be in a meeting like that. So I started trying to tell them all that it was a dream. And of course they deny it, acting like I'm crazy. I kept insisting, to the point that I threatened that I could kill them and it wouldn't matter. At that point everyone except the person next to me disappeared, and he admitted it was a dream and told me I wouldn't do something like that because I wanted to know what would happen next. And it was so weird to realize that I didn't know what he would say next, even though I was lucid. Woke up shortly after. I have only had one other conversation with that other part of my brain, when I accidentally got super high, and I was panicking, but he was there to assure me things would be ok.
@@thecrimsonfuckeralucard9500 I think that's just a reoccurring nightmare that happens to be about some kind of matrix-like dream world. You're probably more conscious when it happens, hence why it reoccurs as you begin to recognise and remember the plot developments from last time.
@@elantris-2002 from what ive heard your brain can mimic new experiences in dreams by mashing together things it already has, if you see a new face in a dream it's merely a combination of several faces of people you've seen before.
This makes me think that if we want to promote wellbeing in ourselves, it would be necessary to consider and attempt to make adjustments to the external environment in which we live, the people with whom we connect and interact, and even the internal workings of our body (including the multitude of microorganisms that live inside our bodies). If this is in fact our reality we would all benefit from a much more collective approach to societal organization.
@@loricline1692ah, but the psychedelics let us perceive the profound interconnectedness of Nature which the Abrahamic religions taught us to forget (and now we must remember in order to survive as a species).
Great video. Experiments on human consciousness is always so fascinating. Makes me understand a lot more about how split personality disorder may be working. And also thoughts on why people talk to themselves when in severe isolation. It's like we have multiple people in our brains just trying to make sense of all the information it intakes through sight, touch, taste, smell, and hearing. It's so, so complex.
*"I live in an ecosystem, yet at the same time I AM an ecosystem. And everything together is part of the Great super organism of life itself"* Well worded and quite the reality check... I wonder if the fact that an ecosystem can create consciousness in us, does that mean there may be a higher consciousness above us that WE are part of?? Just 420 thoughts out loud ... lol
To me it's always been kinda intuitive... when you are dreaming, not all of your brain is awake, so things that you see in the dream that you thought had sense, when you wake up you suddently realize that they didn't make sense at all. You still feel like you both in the dream and outside, but you also notice you change, not just logic, but feelings, emotions, desires. This distinction is stronger around logic for me, i can feel sometimes i want to do something instinctually, an intrusive thought, but suddently the frontal cortex analyzes the situation and makes you change idea. Like when i'm about to fall asleep, then stand up, even if you are awake in both scenarios, your personality changes a bit. Who is you? Is it you that had the intrusive thought?, is it you when you prevented yourself from doing it? No it's both. You are an abstract concept not localized in space or time, combining the results of all the calculations made in your neuronal cells and connections.
As a person who was diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, part of my healing process had been learning to openly communicate with my parts inside, sharing information, and parts of me no longer needing to take credit for the roles we play. Instead, it’s understanding that all of it is me as a whole. And working together with the best parts of all of me to be present as much as possible. Your analysis hits me pretty hard in the heart. My favorite joke about my disorder is that there is no I in team but six in Dissociative Identity Disorder 😂 joked aside, the truth is that while there is no I in team, the alphabet isn’t complete without an I. Each piece plays a fundamental role and has played fundamental roles in my survival and my continued growth. The reality is, I’m not me without all of my parts. Now I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like to have my corpus callosum severed or go back to how things used to be. Life would be so different. And I feel like even though I could adapt too, it still would be so hard to miss out on that internal communication. The world would feel so quiet.
If you think a severed brain would make that worse, try high voltage. It turns out cooked brain matter can result in physical compartmentalization. Long story short, I manage executive decisions, language/wit, and base needs/emotions as three seperate parallel "threads" now. Like you say, attempting to synchronize as one "self" helps greatly, but I still find myself having conflicting impulses.
But the part of you that experiences. Is it one? And all these parts like thought, the body, the senses, can they be said to be tools of your (which can break) or would it be more accutate to say that you, (meaning the I who experince) is just another of the above mentioned things?
Scott, I was going through something rough in my life and this video actually cheered me up. I had a friend pass away and they've been etched into my mind ever since. I definitely relate to a few of the commenters who have dealt with epilepsy. I sustained a traumatic brain injury some years back. I had a massive seizure after meeting asphalt with my face. I lost all my memories of anything prior to 2019... or 2018. But weirdly, I can recall my memories in a way that feels like verbal history passed down my village elders for decades or centuries. I don't have any visuals, but i can talk about it like a storybook. In a way, i feel like i can relate to the split brain individuals but it's only memory that's affected. Anyways, thank you for cheering me up and providing insight and theories that definitely gave my brain some food to process.
I have PTSD and my memory recall is exactly the same: I can tell you what happened but nothing other than the barebones facts, maybe some random details but nothing elaborate. So weird how the brain works.
i had a grand mol seizure back in march from benzo withdraw first ever seizure i remember going through horrible withdrawl insomnia in a blink of any eye i was breathing rapidly in pain couldnt catch my breath my back hurt there were 4 nurses above me they told me i just had a seizure.ended up going to the hospital where i found out i fractured my spine. but it was weird like my seizure lasted about 6 minutes. what felt like a blink all that had happened but i cant recall anything other then what i just told you. like where was I for those 6 minutes. i had no thoughts, feelings, awareness no pictures colors no senses it was as if i was gone and didnt exist after i came too my memory was gone. certain life changing events i couldnt remember, i had the years all confused i couldnt remember nothing from 4 months prior couldnt remember my newborns birthday didnt even know i even held her. its some very strange shit man kinda disappointing if thats what its like to not exist and thats what ive always feared and hoped i was wrong.. good luck with you btw wish you a great life
Very glad to hear another plug for unity consciousness!! You're a brother from another mother! Looking forward to reading your book and watching more of your videos!
As someone with adhd and dyslexia, I'm used to my brain shaping my personality, especially with dyslexia being very connected to how the brain communitates between different regions... very intresting to think about...
I really enjoyed this video, as I have been a seeker, a quester of deep spiritual understanding since age 11, when I bought Siddhartha, The Rubiyat, and The Prophet. I was captivated by science as a preschooler, and became a Critical Care RN, a Licensed Acupuncturist, a Certified Dynamic Manual Interface Manual Therapy Practitioner, an Esogetic Colorpuncturist, delving deeply into all aspects of the human mind, body, spirit, and emotion, with numerous other studies interspersed throughout my adult life. I have experienced the telescopic views of both within and without, and believe there is no separation, but a mirroring extending in greater and greater detail. I discovered something I didn’t know in this video about the eyes relating to the sides of the brain. I will definitely be watching further videos, and checking out your book.
I think you are on point in suggesting that consciousness is the 'in-between'. We are so obsessed with looking at micro-mechanisms like the firing of neurons that we tend to lose sight of the overarching resonance body that is our nervous system. I think we would be well off to move this micro-analysis to a macro-perspective where consciousness is not a result of the firing of neural pathways but the music behind it, so to speak.
I don't really have unique experiences, but enjoyed listening. I'm practicing meditation and sometimes trying to be "conscious" of everything I do. It's not easy. I heard someone saying that we can view ourselves as a bunch of low level lifeforms (bacterias) creating a complex mechanism.
Meditation is great and has definitely helped me a ton. Plus it's interesting to learn how to pay attention to your own thoughts and seems to help identify which thoughts are helpful and which ones are not.
The illusion of consciousness is that of a 'self' that somehow 'has' the consciousness....as if the self was some kind of container. But the reality is that the 'self' comes into and out of existence with consciousness itself, and is identical to it.
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CORRECTION: In this piece I stated each eye sent information to alternate hemispheres. This was not correct. Instead, as the diagram shows, the eyes divide the field of view into left and right sides and transmit each side to alternate hemispheres. The net effect is still the same as I explained in the video. Thanks to all the people who pointed out my error.
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Very cool - does something similar happen when people lose sight in one eye?
Don't forget that who we are at any given moment is also heavily reliant on the different neurotransmitters.
For example, someone with a bad diet doesnt get folate. Homocysteine skyrockets, anger through the roof, neuron myelination is effected negatively. The way you will react to the world... the person you would be is different there than if you had folate properly working... for example people who have mthf variant and cannot properly metabolize regular folate. They need methylfolate.
Or people with MAOA-L variant that makes them produce less of the maoa enzyme that breaks down neurotransmitters like dopamine, norepinephrine, and seratonin. So if for example you get a B2 deficiency you get MAOA deficiency and that build up of neurotransmitters causes psychosis and other psychological disturbances. It is also common that everyone gets some kind of defficiency due to bad nutrition at some point during their life during the year etc. A great cause of poverty and violence that could be eliminated with some observation and supplementation.
Also the universe has been aware of itself for quite a while. Awareness and consciousness can be broken down into several layers. For example, the simplest means that a system has configurations of elements that together trigger a cascade of changes to record the external environment into itself which them propogates action back outward towards to environment. Thats a brain or an atom.
Science needs to find another way indeed, when you get a chance look into wave - particle duality being the personality. Were quantum physicist meets psychology. Psychophysics
About ten years ago I had a major heart attack. I flat lined and they had to jump start me. I very distinctly remember regaining consciousness. I could feel different parts of my various systems coming back on line. No, there were no near death experiences, it just felt like going to sleep. But when I started coming back on line, it definitely felt like a computer booting up. First I could see the faces of the doctors telling me to wake up, but I couldn't understand what they were saying. Then it started to make more sense, but I couldn't understand where I was and what was happening to me. It was like, what are these things? Oh, they're people. Why are they yelling at me? What does it mean? Oh wait...I think I'm starting to understand them... oh, that's right...I had a heart attack...they're helping me... It was a very strange experience.
After having a seizure,it happens the exact same.
The image in your eyes starts to boot up,increasing its frames little by little.The mouth is unable to speak yet,all you can do is think or talk in your head.And your muscle memory returns progressively.
Basically a brain reset.
Same thing happened to me after waking up from passing out. Seems like something universal to experience in any brain-shutting-down situations
If I had to guess, it's different centers in the brain going temporarily off, and then coming back online, for various reasons.
After a heart attack, it might be a lack of oxygen when flatlining. Then once your cardiovascular system started working again, adequate oxygenated blood flow starts to flood the various parts of the brain again, but sections at a time.
If I had to guess, after a seizure sounds like it's probably more complicated, but it's also parts coming back online one at a time, too?
Thats exactly how i felt on mushrooms. I almost forgot the meaning words, what people were. And even dates didnt make sense, i remember asking myself in my head "why js it sept.9? Who are this people (my friends and tripsitter). Why does my back feel fresh (i was sweating but couldnt interpret it). And who was *ex girl's name* (just broke up with here like a few months prior).
Thanks a lot for sharing!! It was helpful.
As an epileptic, I've experienced this understanding first hand (the hard way). When coming back from a strong seizure, some part of my brain is trying to hear, some part is just always talking, one part is trying to experiment to gather empirical evidence maybe by talking out loud... But then when one part that's confused about why what's coming out of my mouth is just jibberish, there's another part trying to calm the whole "self" down as the other part starts yelling "red flag! The voice isn't saying the right thing!" Even your smells become memories. Memories become "now". And as you slowly come back together, the memory is still there that you could feel all of the different pieces of the brain separately because they got quite a different juxtaposition from each other for that brief few seconds as the seizure was happening. It's really, really strange.
My goodness. What must you be going through 😞
I know that feeling. You're aware that you are looking for your phone but can't remember where it was and I was still in a dream-like state so I could not go look for it with a normal free will, yet after a while it appears in front of me without knowing how, it's like the other part of the brain knows where it is but cannot tell the conscious part.
As a fellow epileptic although only slightly, I’ve never heard anyone’s description of a seizure quite capture the experience like yours. Thanks for sharing
Sounds terrifying 😮
But you are not 6 different people.
If you put it this way it makes sense why people with amnesia generally don't lose their personality. In a way, losing their memories is equivalent to losing 1% of themselves. The memories did shape the rest of 99% over their life and built them over all as a person but losing the 1% itself does not affect what was already built.
I have actually had two seizures which affected my memory (saying "Amnesia" always sounded very.. soap-opra)- One only got my experiences, but my skills stayed intact - the more severe of the two got my experiences (again), and some of my skills - neither really affected my personality. BTW, Let me tell you it's an interesting and sometimes scary experience being told about things you did, but can't remember - they might as well have happened to some other person entirely. Some things are on the edge of recollection - and can be brought back, like a book with the table of contents ripped out.
Remember that this is only one field of scientific exploration. If you ask an engineer, a metallurgist, a physicist, and a technician to explain a machine, you will get very different answers based on their understanding not only of the machine, but of a question.
The engineer can tell you mechanically how it works, and make a best guess of what job it is meant to perform. The metallurgist will tell you a great deal about the individual components and what the elements and alloys used to form them imply about the larger machine as a whole, the physicist will tell you about how it operates based on existing evidence. The technician who actually uses the machine will tell you what it does and how to use it, even without knowing the deeper complexities of the machine.
Looking at the brain only on a biological level, or psychological level, or neurochemical level, any of these are ultimately going to be a mistake and give you an incomplete picture. Saying that the brain is composed of multiple overlapping selves is a statement that one can only reply to with "yeah no shit really? Did you need a phd to work that out?". What that actually translates to in a deeper sense, "what is the self" is something that humanity will likely go extinct before it has a fully formed understanding of the answer to that question.
Put it simple. In science you just follow the evidence and make a conclusion based on said evidence, you defend said conclusion only so far as until contrary evidence becomes more compelling, you do not invest in your conclusions, you must be willing to discard them with indifference if a better theory presents itself. If someone tells you they can say with certainty how the universe began and how it got from there to where it is today, that person is setting them selves up for failure. Because certainty is by the very nature of the universe, something that is subjective. Point of fact, recent experiments bring into question if there IS any single objectively accurate interpretation of the universe. And even if you do observe an objective fact of the nature of the universe, you can never be truly certain if it is an observation of something that is objective.... Or something that is objective because you observed it.
@@ParadoxEcho ok bro
If you take head injuries it can affect your personality pretty significantly.
i guarantee someone with amnesia will have less anxiety (except about the general situation, logically understanding they don't know what's going on when they should) if their memories are filtered out and therefore do things they normally wouldn't. sorta like a huge dose of alcohol or a head injury.
I was working as a security guard in a hospital in San Francisco. One night a highly intoxicated man staggered into the hospital complaining of a severe head ache. The cause of his headache was very clear, and though I was not at all medically trained I suspected the large kitchen knife sticking out of the top of his head might have something to with with his head ache.
I sat him in my char then ran to fetch someone who was medically trained. They got him onto a stretcher and into the hospital.
I saw him again a few days later, no longer drunk and no longer with a knife stuck in his head. He came to thank me for the help I gave him and he told me the story.
He'd been drinking with his friends and got black out drunk. Later he woke up with a terrible headache and he decided to walk to the ER where I saw him.
At some point one of his "friends" stabbed him in the head and he was knocked out or was already passed out. The knife fractured his skull but passed perfectly between the two hemispheres of his brain, causing no brain damage at all.
I just remember thinking what it would be like to hang out with friends after that, looking at them wondering, "Which one of you SOB's stabbed me in the head?"
As he had no memory of being stabbed no one ever found out who had done it.
@@erictaylor5462 I’m sorry, but I laughed at the way you said that you suspected the knife sticking out if his head had something to do with his headache. You have a good sense of humor!
Epilepsy Patient for 15+ years here. Last year hit my head while having a seizure. Ever since then, every time I have seizure, I find everything new. The first time, all roads appeared new and I felt like tourist and yet I knew the way. Super weird feeling. Adjusted to it. The latest one caused me to remember everything as it was 19 years ago when I was in school. Felt super weird seeing my family grown up and old. Yet there was a part of me rationally thinking knowing I just don't remember.
I have a infant daughter whom I love and yet I find her 4 month old photo extremely foreign.
This would happen to my sister. She was always surprised I was blonde, divorced, and she had 2 children. It was heartwrenching.
@@SpicyGramCracker Just wanted to know for myself if you are okay with it. Were there any issues later on ? I haven't done a full check up after this
I have a disassociative disorder so sometimes places I've been to hundreds of times suddenly feel strange and unfamiliar like a dream. It's a really strange experience because one part of my brain recognizes we have been here but the other part doesn't remember being there so it gets super confusing. Honestly that explains why I have such a hard time remembering directions to getting places because my brain can't remember correctly
@@lunawolfheart336 This has happened to me on various drugs a few times. It was very common in my early regular marijuana using days too. I'd be walking home or whatever and just sort of forget where I was and felt like a tourist in the place I grew up all my life. It was a fascinating feeling and not really disturbing since I still had my rational brain and senses working fine and could snap myself out of it. Not the most safe when you're cycling though...
Sounds like jamais vu. It's the opposite of deja vu. It is actually known to be caused by seizures, but can occasionally happen normally like deja vu does. I've had it happen once when I looked at my mom. It's very weird how being familiar with someone changes your perception of them because she looked very different to me for a moment.
Some people seem to miss the point that having different hemispheres of the brain perceiving different types of sensory data is not the same as multiple personalities.
To a T, this also isn't consciousness. This is sensation. This is a clear mishap on what was presented here
lol you didn't listen to what he was actually saying then. He didn't say you have multiple different personalities, he's saying that your two half's of brain that is not connected to eachother has two of the same personality's ( or more) that kind of split. Kind of like a street that forks . That said street is the same street but now has a divider stopping the two from thinking the same thing. lol I probably didn't explain it very well but that's basically what he's saying .
I dead set thought the thumbnail was a picture of a wall nut
Yes what I stated. Guys thinking this is many you's or some BS. Not at all. Just the brain can't function at 100% and it processing information at like 70% and it is a lot slower also.
@@southface8838 0:30 "As well as evidence that there is not just one "You" living inside your brain, but potentially dozens, if not hundreds of different Yous, always competing for control of your body."
You said: "He didn't say you have multiple different personalities". These statements clash.
SURE, thats only in the first 30 seconds of a 14 minute video, and he does go deeper to explain a point he's trying to make, but that does not change the opening statement,
which like everything in a scientific evaluation, has to be backed and made in a most concise, impossible to misinterpret, way.
This opening statement claims that after cutting people's brains in half, scientists healed epilepsy and then found out that everyone has 12-100 different Identities (You's). That's a wild statement that already tells me that, if any scientific method has been used in this video, it has been grossly warped or misused for the purpose of generating views.
It already stopped me from watching it further. I'm a student mysel, so I will just use my access to the library and my learned ability on how to properly find out about things, to find out if I truly have 200 Personalities and if its safe to cut my damn brain in half, thank you.
I had my right temporal lobe removed in order to manage epileptic seizures. It has been by far the most difficult life experience to date. This information is very interesting to me, however, it does not reflect the same experiences I've had. Being a medical guinea pig has been a very, very unsettling trip that no one else seems to be able to relate to. I look normal on the exterior. I appear to be able to function in a somewhat reasonable fashion, however, for me life is nothing like I understood it to be before the surgery...
I'm both fascinated by your comment and saddened by it. I'm sorry that you are suffering this way.
Zafirodeagua984, I'm sorry, your experience sounds very difficult. Are the seizures gone or better managed? How is life different now?
Thanks for sharing this. I am sorry that you have suffered.
If possible, can you please say a few things about how you see the world has changed since your surgery. You have had a unique experience and could have some very valuable insights into how Consciousness works.
This be true, I was part of the brain cut out. Miss you btw
@@Madferreironot the time man, read the room
I had a concussion about 12 years ago. Chain of events led to me dying for some minutes. Thank god the doctors were able to bring me back. I don't remember anything about what happened. Just woke up 4 hours later, heard people talking, couldn't open my eyes or "wake up" for a while until I remembered I could wake up. Crazy stuff. People say I changed a lot, but I was only a child so I don't know if I agree. In any case is an unanimous opinion in my family.
Maybe you are a soul exchanger, do a research on the subject. One of the telltale hints is having barely any memory at all of the years before the event.
@@pierluigidipietro8097 The only problem with that is there’s no such thing as a soul. Can you demonstrate your claim of dualism?
@@Evolution.1859 just investigate. There is literally a ton of evidence
@@Evolution.1859 bruh its just a hypothetical, relax 😭
@@Evolution.1859 prove there is no soul. You'd be the first to do so.
The thing that's beyond me, is how did anyone ever think of "hm yeah let's just cut it" without thinking what kind of nightmarish consequences it may have for the poor person, even trumping any grand mal seizure. Luckily that didn't happen, but the idea of actually doing this also needed a pioneering surgeon who had some level of madness.
The history of surgery is the history of torture, and intellectual/egotistical dominism..
I beat cancer in 10 days with curcumen and alpha-lipoic acid, rather than have my squamous cell carcinoma cut out by a skin specialist..
@@philipambler3825taken by pill or topic
@@philipambler3825whos' are telling me this?
you beat cancer in 10 days? dang you strong af@@philipambler3825
Because that's what doctors do, duh!
Scott, Great piece. As one Buddhist rinpoche told me (paraphrasing from memory): “When we talk about caring for sentient beings, who are these beings? Realize that we contain within ourselves many sentient beings. We are composed of sentient beings. We can start by caring for these beings.”
That’s a great line. Who was the rinpoche?
@@sgcarney is someting similar to dalai lama for the budist monk from tibet.ithink the budist monks have something to say about consciouness.
Lol. Yes, I get what a rinpoche is. I was wondering which one you were speaking with.
@@sgcarney I heard that over twenty years ago when I was first learning about Buddhism and starting to attend teachings. The source is lost to me, which is odd because the statement itself has stuck with me for all these years. I've searched for it in written form for years, but to no avail. It could have been Thubten Zopa. But I'm just not sure. :(
Who is that who is caring about these other sentients?
So i once took a large dosage of psilocybin, and during the trip, i could feel my consciousness break down, and feel the different parts of my brain controlling things. I had one voice saying calm down, another voice saying lay down because that would feel nicer, another voice reminding me to breathe, and then i started panicking and all the voices in unison started telling me i was okay and to just keep breathing. What's weirder about that trip is at one point i wondered what death was, and a voice said "come with me" and i was shown what felt like true nothingness. It felt like i was just shut off from the rest of my brain for a minute. Just nothing existing. No thoughts, no awareness. And then i came back to the voices all telling me different things to do to calm myself down. Changed my life after that. Got all my shit together, got a job, got my own apartment. Felt like a whole different person after that.
Sounds like we are the singular, outer masks covering many persons beneath.
Heard
How did you know that it was just a minute
Did you check the time, or did you feel as though it was one minute
Could you please elaborate a little more this is very interesting
I took 11G one day experienced something really similar to this. Changed me frl but scared me of death, the trip showed me how I was distancing myself from my family and made me realizing I'm really scared of losing them so yeah more scared of death
Don't you find it interesting that after this experience, you further embedded your ”self” into self imposed conformity, obedience and ultimately back into slave society?, It sounds like you were in the void where all matter is created from...was it peaceful there?..In these meat suits, we are all programmed like hardware software..bit like west-world..and they try very hard indeed to have us totally identify with these bodies..for their unpleasant agenda...Don't cling to this life dude, or be made to feel guilty for being separate from the crowd...Human emotion is how we are easily manipulated and controlled, false human morality that does not exist anywhere else..
I had brain damage seven years ago i was blind for a week and i couldn't recognize my family remember who i was or name things that i did know before like a cup a spoon things you learn as a kid
But months after that I heard on tv that the way your brain works can be reshape as you learn a new language so i did that by learning English and the translations of the words in Spanish i got my brain to find new ways to connect my memories and the knowledge i already had also was cool to learn a new language
Years after i found that even may way of being my self changed a lot usually i was really depressed and overstressed but now i feel more calm about everything and more creative
I love painting again and even if no one watch it i love creating new things
I hope that help someone too maybe there is a happier you there inside waiting
There certainly are. I have been hacking my brain for my whole life and my successes have been amazing.
@@diegomelgar5866 personally would love yo see your paintings.
Its what we called neuron recovery.. Its a long journey ngl.. There also a tale about someone that their frontal lobe left side get damage and change his personality where before he is a calm and calculated person he become angry and mess person but after many years slowly he coming back to his before hand personality by transfered the left frontal lobe function and jobs to the orher side.. That is his right frontal lobe.. 😊
@@TheReaverOfDarkness how have you been doing that
@@O1iviaWard It's complicated, but the gist of it is that I always pay attention to stories I've heard about other people learning how their mind works or how to take advantage of it, and I've gradually developed a good image of how my mind works. As that image has developed, it has enabled me to invent my own techniques for training my mind or discovering its capabilities, and I always seek out new possibilities wherever I see them. In turn, developing these techniques and making these discoveries also shapes the image of how my mind works and is helping me map out all of its functions and learn to control and harness them.
I study music and cognition, and in cognitive sciences, there's this field called 'embodied cognition' (first proposed by Antonio Varela and Maturana). One of the hypotheses about consciousness is that it is an emergent phenomenon. In other words, we cannot find a physical place where our consciousness resides. Instead, it is something that starts to exist thanks to the interaction of the many parts of our bodies (not just our brains) with each other and with our body's interaction with the environment.
I always wondered how dogs or cats or any other animal are born knowing what to do, at least for the most part. A dogs parents cannot speak to it and tell it how to mate and reproduce. But as it gets older, it just finds itself doing what it takes to perform the act and survive. Humans, on the other hand, are different. *The brain didnt know that it existed, and ended up naming itself.* This to me further proves that the brain is a superorganism.
Taking this concept even further then allows us to think of everything around us as having some level of consciousness relative to the complexity of said object/being. For example, the chair I am sitting on could have some tiny fragments of consciousness, but not enough to consider it aware of itself or even it's surroundings. The more humans manipulate and interact with objects/beings around us, the more consciousness it will have. Part of my brain could have once been a spoon used by an ancient Egyptian, or a leaf on a tree eaten by a dinosaur, or even a planet from another galaxy.
Taking this concept even further to the macro level, could planets be more conscious than humans? Stars? Galaxies? Could the entire universe be one large super consciousness? Since there are detectable electromagnetic connections between the planets, stars, and galaxies, these connections could act as neurons operating with different, yet similar, physics than those within our bodies.
This theory can be easily debunked by considering the neural correlates of consciousness. For example, if we tinker with the inputs received by any layer of the neural network other than the last few, but make sure the inputs into the last few layers of the neural network remain unchanged, then we'll clearly see that the patient does not report any conscious change ─ because all higher cognitive processes are controlled by the latter neural layers. It is then easy to conclude that consciousness clearly emerges from these latter layers; all of the others aren't necessary at least when considering any given instant.
@@maxkho00 Wow, that is very interesting information, thank you for sharing. So would the layers prior to the last few be akin to unconscious actions in the brain?
@@cant_stop_pooping No problem! And exactly. Not necessarily "unconscious" but rather subconscious. Many things which you may intuitively assume you produce consciously are actually subconscious creations - such as all of your thoughts. Now, you can definitely influence your thoughts via introspection - i.e. telling your subconsciousness what you want it to output - but ultimately, it's still up to the subconsciousness to generate them. Think of your consciousness as the captain and your subconsciousness as the army. This picture will become a lot clearer if you do mindfulness meditation or even try psychedelics.
This almost brings me to tears. I was diagnosed with focal dystonia years ago, and my guitar playing came to an end for years. One day, I read an article from Michael j fox and he stated that his Parkinson symptoms abated when he played hockey. I don't know why, but I connected that with feelings and emotions to the physical body. It inspired me, and I began meditation and actually realized my body had made physical snap shots in my brain of emotional experiences. I am absolutely free of focal dystonia and have a scary mental control of my body now I didn't know was possible. Focal dystonia is listed as uncurable. What else possible to change with the mind!
Can you explain more? I don’t know about the condition and you didn’t say if you were able to play guitar again?
That's amazing! I wonder if what you learned could help others with the same condition. Meditation is so much more powerful than I think people give it credit for if you learn how to do it well.
Just read Paramahamsa Yogaananda's book Autobiography of a Yogi. You won't believe what kinda "stunts" a fully enlightened individual can perform, being able to think at or very "near" the most fundamental level of consciousness, called e.g. pure consciousness or transcendental consciousness, in Sanskrit for instance turiiya ([the] fourth [state of consciousness), or aatmaa (for non-linguists: atman, self), draSTaa (lemma: draSTR, [the] seer), puruSa, etc. - Greetings from Finland, the Land of Käärijä (Wrapper).
Meditation cured it all?
This is the biggest problem facing AI. We really can't teach AI Consciousness because... we still can't define what it really is or where it even is in the brain. Its fascinating really.
Exactly! AI is 100% conscious or all inert depending on the definition.
No, the biggest problem is that they can't stop it from being every -ism because that's truth, and they have to hamstring it as "woke".
It doesn't hurt to be kind even if it may not be alive or sentient
What makes it spookier is that since we don't exactly know, we also can't specifically avoid doing it by accident.
I think we are the stepping stone to a more advanced AI without physical bodies...the mind seems to be infinite..
We're so amazed by the idea of octopuses having independent brains for each tentacle, yet we're hardly any different.
Think ur so smart... explain my psychosis. I have a entity in my head that I hear and can THINK TO, or speak to, mentally or vocally, that I consider my brother. What's going on that my brain has fragmented to the point that a seperate being is within me... it's definitely not me, it's 100% for sure a seperate entity within my brain. It's freaky as fuck. But it's all good. Explain that to me, BET YOU AINT GOT THE ABILITY TO EVEN IMIGINE WHAT ITS LIKE! psychosis is crazy but that's what Moses experienced thinking he hears the word of God comming from the sky, I totally have that experience and a lot of time it sounds like the equivalent of hearing conversations of other people in a restaurant or someone in the next room. It sounds external but it's not. It's weird. I had 34 years of life seemingly normal and the last 3.5 years living in a reality that is unbelievable beyond words. I ha e visual hallucinations and physical side effects like brain zaps or alien hand too. Explain it to me. U cant
@@metabang03 I don't need to explain it, you just explained it yourself. I have suffered from psychotic depression in the past, but never anything that severe. Wish I could help, but I really can't. I did hear of a study which found that psychotic disorders and depression were linked to low levels of zinc in the body. You can buy zinc supplements for pennies in the grocery store, and they have a low potential for toxicity so might as well give it a try I guess? Brain zaps are a symptom of low serotonin, I get those when I forget to take my antidepressants.
@@metabang03 When you say 'explain', what precisely do you mean? What is it? Why do you have it? How do you cure it? I don't think I can answer any of those questions. Though I did hear about a study that found low levels of zinc to be connected to psychotic disorders and depression. I don't know if that's what's causing your problems, but if you're looking for leads, maybe that could help. You can find zinc supplements for pennies at any grocery store, and zinc has low potential for toxicity.
@@metabang03 hey bro just wondering what type of things this entity said to you?
@@metabang03 what your bro is telling you?
I have always thought about the theory that you are experiencing two separate consciousnesses when your brain is split, but you don't notice it because they are literally separated and there's no way for information to travel to the other side of the brain. Sounds trippy as hell, but it makes some sense.
There's a way for information to go from one part to another, but not in the direct way. You can feel one part of the body with another part, and also hear the same sound with both ears, so you, in fact, could talk to yourself or put the hand over the other hand and so on.
It's true it's not gonna to communicate as efficient as before, but still can work together.
There are other parts of the body that should be felt by both parts, but we are not consciously aware of them. E.g. gut has some neurons, ~ 500 million, and also they didn't cut the entire brain in half, so two parts are still aware there's a connection between them, just the old pathway of communicating is not.
Low iq detected
It's still one consciousness dude, it's just been split because it uses the brain. The man who made this video is deceived or a deceiver or simply ignorant, I 100% realized it when he said "you are the universe experiencing itself." Aka your "ego isn't real" the implication from that would be to discard the ego then, and that is a false spiritual enlightenment, aka a new age philosophical trap based off ancient left path teachings.
You are quite literally a unique person, or soul, and your 'ego' or sense of self is 1 person, your sole identity is what distinguishes you from the dirt, it is a literal gift from God to be given your own identity.
Yes, it may sound like they completely split the brain in half but they actually didn’t, just part of it.
@@overPowerPenguinWell the cortex is still intact, and attached to both hemispheres, but the two hemispheres can't communicate through it.. not in the way the corpus callosum allowed, anyway.
This reminds me of how I see sleepwalkers/talkers. The phenomenon has always seemed so bizarre to me that people can perform whole tasks and speak coherent sentences yet their conscious mind is wholly unaware of what's happening.
I tend to talk in my sleep and I have never been aware of it, at all. Only because other people told me. It runs in my family, my brother tends to do the same. It's fascinating
Ah I have a really big habit of sleep talking. Usually it’s when someone comes into my room and asks me something but I’m having a nap and it’s like I’m asleep but can still from basic sentences and even have entire conversations. And when I wake up i barely remember something like that happening and only have a very vague dreamlike memory of it happening.
The number of times i had "woken up" as a kid actively taking a piss in front of the toilet with one of my parents actively talking to me and i was apparently responding, is still an interesting memory. Something in my brain must've rewired as i grew because i don't sleep walk in any way any more according to my wife and past partners. But i will still talk while "half asleep".
Me and my wife even have a term for it "sleepy Tim is an asshole. im sorry for what he said" or "Conscious Tim cannot be held accountable for what sleepy tim agreed to." and one of the more interesting things is "waking up" while someone is talking to me actually illicits what i call a "fear-anger" response as i become aware of the fact that im not aware of something i'm saying. I have what i can only describe as a fear of losing conscious control of my actions, it's not a recognized phobia as far as i've read. But it's less paralyzing and more of just an aversion to things like mind-altering substances.
For context on that; i was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD as a child in the 90s. I had been on many of the popular mild-meths as i call them (Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, Strattera) over the course of about ~7 years until i was 13 and altogether stopped taking them without telling my parents. Almost failed 8th grade, but eventually got a foundation of coping mechanisms down to where i didn't need them to function. That said i do self-medicate with nicotine (Was cigarettes/vaping, now nicotine gum) and caffeine once per day as an adult. That experience made me so averse to taking medication that i have even happily told my dentist that he's welcome to start drilling a cavity out and i'll let him know if it starts to hurt, simply because the FEELING of lidocane wearing off irritates me so much that the ~5 minutes of mild discomfort is worth not dealing with that for 2 hours. I've personally unpacked a lot of those thoughts/feelings as an adult and came to the conclusion that my willingness to endure pain is slightly above average regarding the point where most people will take an aspirin, i won't unless i am at work and need to eliminate the distracting pain as soon as possible to be functional.
TL;DR: I was a sleepwalker/talker as a child, not anymore, but i still talk if i'm talked to while just falling asleep or just waking up. The experience is jarring and i don't like it.
isn't that just people talking and speaking in their dream, just that the body didn't lock itself up after falling asleep so the person starts talking and moves around
The conscious mind *is* aware, because its causing the actions to begin with. Imagine a conversation in your mind. As you speak, youll notice that your throat muscles slightly move as if you were actually speaking. This is because the brainsector responsiuble for speech is actively processing, and sending signals, however faint, to the muscles to create speech. Its not that your brain is causing you to speak on its own, but your consciousness is effectively daydreaming. If you imagine something, it can take over your whole vision.
Having "recovered" from a massive epileptic seizure, and the consequential "rebuild" I understand what you are saying. However recently I underwent two separate cataract eye surgeries. My left eye was the first to be done and the second (right eye)was done 8 years later . I have good eyesight in both eyes, but my brain doesn't accept the right eye vision in the same way as the left. It's almost as if that RH vision is used simply as a back up and isn't really relevant.
The oddest part of all this is that my right eye vision was the one I relied on as being the good eye. Now I have conflict. Thank you for this insight it explains a lot. My ophthalmologist is in for a conversation at the next appointment.
Another aspect was the loss of being able to play the guitar. The mind says I can do it but the body doesn't do it. It's not a nice place to be in. I'm 71 years old.
That sucks. I hope that you can build up some of your guitar skills again.
It might be that some connections to the parts of your brain that let you play guitar got a bit scrambled. You may be able to heal some of those connections a bit if you work on stuff you *can* do related to music. Drumming on the body of the guitar while listening to music? Strumming along to something without using the fret board? That's my first guess of things that might help rebuild those connections
The eye thing you mention is it like amblyopia? Where the vision coming in is just not fully pictured kinda like looking out of your peripheral vision but its all the vision you are getting outta that eye?
What you describe is like my monovision, I’m not sure why it’s called that since I can see fine out of both eyes, but one is nearsighted and the other is normal. So except for reading (which I don’t need reading glasses for though I’m 61), I’m really only using the normal eye most of the time but I don’t notice anything strange.
Your brain got used to not using that eye, especially after such a long time. That's probably exactly how it was working when you couldn't see well out of it, and just hasn't adjusted to being usable yet.
I wonder if you covered your left eye for a while if it would even out (not without talking to a doctor first though obviously). Or if there are OT exercises you can do to reinforce the use of both of your eyes together, like playing sports with hand-eye coordination
I had a cosmetic procedure on my eyes which damaged one eye muscle and left me with double vision. I have finally got glasses to correct this but I realize the injured eye muscle is for my dominant eye. This is worse because if I want to look with one eye, I have to close my best eye so the image is not as good. I don't know if I explained this well and I'm so sorry I got that surgery.
As someone who was wrongly prescribed some very hardcore drugs for a problem I never had and then suffered immeasurable dependency and neological disruption as a result after extreme, and I mean extreme difficulty getting off them. I am experiencing my self and consciousness and my sensory input in a fractured and disrupted way, and the amazing thing is, I have insight into how my brain gives rise to experience itself and the oddities it creates when things are not functioning correctly, especially when it comes to visual processing and modelling the physical world.
Can you be more specific? How do you think your brain gives rise to experience?
When I listen to new music I listen to the instruments, then pick out the words later. I had a dream one night that was very confusing, a week or so later I decided to listen to a song I had been listening too off and on and listen to the lyrics this time, to my shock the lyrics described the dream I had. Somewhere in my head some part of my brain was listening to the lyrics even though I personally was not, and it manifested into a dream.
That still blows my mind.
Similar thing happened to me but with language learning. In one of my dreams I was speaking in English which is not my native language and in a sentence I couldn’t seem to find the right word to fill the gap and suddenly I chose a word I’ve never heard before and I was confused like how do I know this one? When I woke up I even checked and it was the right way to say it in that sentence.
Our brain has a strange way of picking up, processing and learning things sub-conciously
same thing happens when you hear your alarm sometimes you have a dream related to the sound but then you slowly wake up and the alarm starts to sound more clearly
What was the song?
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I worked in a psychiatric hospital where one patient was sadly locked up in an isolated confined little room due to a severe aggressive dementia disorder which afflicted the poor man in his 40s.He could be extremely violent due to his illness and frequently suffered from visual hallucinations. Anyway, one evening, while working overnight, i got talking to him during one of his occasional brief moments of lucidity. I spoke with him about music, and he told me he likes the band "Wings" and specifically the song "Band on the Run"... The next morning while driving home, this conversation popped into my head, so I thought I'd listen to the song. The lyrics kicked in after about 30 seconds and as soon as I heard the first couple of lines I got the most unbelievable chill up my spine as I related it back to this poor patient whom I had assumed had no real cognitive awareness of what was happening to him. Without telling you the lyrics, I suggest you listen to the start of the song yourself and imagine being this poor patient with Lewy Body Dementia.
As I study to understand consciousness better, I sometimes ask myself what the purpose is for going down the rabbit hole over and over again. I think because understanding consciousness gives you better control over your navigation through this world, in sickness and in health. Thank you for your research and information!
For me it's soothing. Trying to understand consciousness is helping me to overcome anxieties and existentional crisis. I think I'm existentional nihilist, so this studies and findings are really comforting for me.
@@Unurinen For others it's to escape their problems or make them seem so insignificant compared to the larger scale. Naturally we are 3 dimensional beings. I often wonder what the realms of understanding would be like from a higher dimensional plane. Probably would be even more overwhelming as the the more you know the more you don't know
Consciousness is pretty cool
I agree
And it allows each of us to make better decisions to improve our quality and quantity of life. Most people still don't really understand that they're are not monolithic blocks of "me". We are each of us self-mobile, self-aware environments. The cells of each organ live in their own environment in which there are no stars, cultures, or civilizations but each group of cells consists of living organisms that use the environment they're in (the rest of the body) to carry out their own life functions in coordination with the cells around them. Pollute that environment with chemical garbage (drugs, unhealthy food, etc) and that's what the cells will try to assimilate and become.
But pretty much everyone ignores that part.
Great video. I have a little personal experience to relate. I have schizophrenia. This mainly results in me nearly always hearing what sounds like 2 or 3 people talking just out of earshot. I can't hear individual words but I get their intonation. I'm fully aware of the fact that it's an auditory hallucination but I would bet my last dollar that the sounds are real due to their quality. What i mean is that it has the correct acoustics and tone. When i first got sick, I would always look so my doctor flipped the context of the scenario by suggesting to me that if there was indeed someone out there, I don't think it has anything to do with me so who cares. I'm not doing anything wrong by being at home. Oddly that worked like a charm. It's like the hum of a computer fan to me now.
With that context, my experience. One day I locked myself out of my apartment. I tried to turn the knob and when it didn't turn, my brain already had answers and said "you're being robbed". None of the evidence pointed to that but I implicitly took it as gospel I already knew it. I phone the police and when they talk to me, I realize my brain is feeding me false information. It went like this. "Sir, did you see them go in?" "No, they slipped in when i set my trash out." "How many are there?" This is the first moment i ever thought about it and i said "3 guys and a woman with a baby." "If you didn't see them go in, how do you know how many there are?" I am no longer in control of my answers as i watch myself say "I let them sleep in the living room last" I have a puzzled look on my face because i can't believe what I'm saying and he asks "Sir, have you ever had a history of mental illness?" I regained control of myself right before i could start to say "yes, i do but this has nothing......" and said "yeah, it's probably whats going on here isn't it? Can you call this number for me?". It may seem like your brain is your friend but he is a liar and i got receipts! Lol
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
@@littlebrother82 Well I suppose you could say that the information is emergent. It comes from nowhere. Your brain spends a lot of power to contextualize external stimuli but it doesn't really know what is and isn't external. In my case, my brain sometimes hands me stories that under the slightest scrutiny fall apart. The thing is that when handed the information, I "already know it" so i don't question the nonsense at first. I guess I'm lucky that I am able to recognize it happening and can catch myself but I can't prevent it from happening. No amount of meds will ever get rid of the voices and I will always have to triple question everything that "I" choose to do. Life is weird sometimes.
Edit: I can best describe it like this. In my head the things make sense. When i start to say the words they make less sense and when i hear the words i've said i can't believe it. Oddly it is a though there is a difference in the one thinking, the one speaking and the one hearing. I don't know if that makes any sense but there is sometimes a disconnect between what I think I'm doing and what i am doing. One part of my brain perceives another as if they aren't connected
I passed out once, and it felt like I just dozed off and woke up again in a matter of like 20 seconds, but it was actually about 20 minutes later. I distinctly remember bits and pieces of things coming back online, like I could see first, and then some amount of noticeable time after opening my eyes my hearing came back, and so on. But frustratingly, I struggled to come to terms with the passage of time and I didn't fully regain that ability for about 18 months. I had all the knowledge of time that anyone does, and I knew time was passing but I had no idea how to recognize it happening. It made work super annoying because I was just there, for an amount of time I couldn't reeeally quantify, and I relied heavily on checking clocks to understand how long I'd been anywhere (like when people check the time and go 'oh wow, I've been working on this report for 4 hours!' except it was like that for everything, minus the exclamation point because I started to see it coming). I think I just eventually got better and better at using other knowledge to ascertain time, like I knew an episode of my show was 22 minutes, so if I watched 2 episodes then I was on the couch for 44 minutes, or if I took note of the position of the sun in the sky I could guess that it had been an hour or two. I may have just completely relearned how to experience time. And I've come to the conclusion that time isn't real [in the sense that I used to think it was], it's essentially just the canvas that we lay down our interpretations on the chronology of events; it feels like something we've made up to help us understand sequence and I don't know what, but I think there's some deeper truth about time we haven't figured out yet.
Very very interesting! For what your saying I think I experienced it in very minor doses when in a dream. Lile trance after waking up in rare times. It's like you are in a Car that's moving. You see it move but can't actually feel or tell besides looking foe cues...
yep, I have a vasel vagal response. It has caused me to black out many times and I can attest to both the strangeness of time passage and to the slow quote coming back online sensations… Although I also remember, I was definitely somewhere else while I was out. I couldn't remember where but I wasn't nowhere.
Wait... That's not normal?
@@IlamareaI was about to say, that's how I've always experienced time. What other way is there?
@@MsTasha217 I'm glad you have survived.
I felt terrified about this subject. Now I feel a bit better.
Even if you forget this comment.
I hope that you remember and who you are continues to thrive.
I have a stepson who was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Later, we were informed that the two sides of his brain were not connected. He used the right side, which made it very difficult to maintain a time schedule. An artist once told me that when he used his right brain for creating, he had no sense of time.
How that artist deliberately use one side of his brain?!
@@neodimium It's not that it's deliberate it's just that the right side of the brain is known to handle all the "creative" thought processes while the left is the "logical" one.
@@neodimiumright lol
This makes sense. I’ve always been artistic when I was a child, but my teachers constantly complained that I had no comprehension of time passing.
@@tayloremriectx right, lol? Why... that is actually how it works...
This video makes me indescribably happy. You say you’ve left a part of your brain with me. I realized that’s something people do a while ago. We’re all just frankensteins of different past experiences and people, and it makes me happy to hear someone else talk about it, I guess. I’ve felt alone with this feeling for a while, this makes me feel a little better. Thanks.
I don't know man I'm sure there's something science will have to say about this however somebody could be trying to possess you mold your consciousness with theirs pull your strings I feel that way but I've seen it firsthand many times
@@lucasking5376 people have been trying to get in your head your whole life, though. Acknowledging it now doesn’t make a difference. Stuff like advertisements, and snakeoil salesmen. In the same way evil people try and leave seeds of themselves in other people for their own benefit, good people can change you for the better. That’s why it’s important who you associate with. If you want to be better, associate with better people.
Thats odd
Assuming you think Frankenstein monster, what an "amazing" way to think about yourself. This is how people get sad and fucked up in life, when they think about themselves as "frankenstein monster". Please stop this. It does not matter how weirdly our consciousness works or if we are connected. You are ok and you have potential to be great and experience amazing things. Atleast you could be if you plant in your head good thoughts like this, instead of sh!t like "we are freaks of nature".
I would not say Frankensteins. But even before anything like modern neuroscience, these thoughts were discussed by philosophy. Start with Locke in the 17th century, but even earlier the ideas were explored. As for the being many selves, this also was an idea before such evidence, although most talked about layers rather than side by side selves.
Ever since I heard this for the first time many years ago I thought the same thing ... HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT CUTTING THE BRAIN IN HALF WOULD NOT IMMEDIATLY KILL THE PATIENT !?!?!?
Well, it didn't kill the patient, that's how they knew, afterwards of course
you even can remove some parts of the brain and it will have no effect on you. that is known for some time now
I'm sure this was tested on an animal before being conducted on humans
People with disabilities have never been taken seriously so what do I tell you. Its like experimenting on criminals sentenced to death - similar remorse to knowing what would happen to these patients if the experiment went wrong
because the sides of the brain do not need to communicate to keep you breathing or your heart beating. that is a task for the medulla which is where the brain meets spinal cord, far from the connection of the two sides of the brain. well im not even sure if they knew that but i sure hope they did lol
Lifelong epileptic and diagnosed with grey matter heterotopia (which causes the seizures). I can tell you that my perception of "reality" is constantly in flux depending on the kind of seizure activity I'm experiencing. Thanks for this video.
One day in residency I was asked to consult on a neurosurgical patient. This patient had an entire hemisphere removed, either due to trauma or malignancy, I cannot remember. I remember looking at their MRI beforehand, and knew to expect an L-shaped skull. I imagined that I would find a patient who could not communicate, who could not really do anything at all. And I was shocked when I discovered the patient was entirely intact, with the exception of the contralateral motor functions. They spoke articulately, and this surprised me immensely. It was not until much later, when I learned about these callosectomy patients, that what I was seeing was normal. Had you spoken with the patient over the phone or text or email, you would have no idea that they lacked anything.
There was another case like this, the strange case of Phineas Gage (cir 1849) who was being researched as a medical anamoly for at Harvard surgical school since he lost a whole half of his brain and survived and remained functional until his death but changed slowly in personality
Maybe the person removed a hemisphere when he was young and the brain is better at adjusting to these missing pieces while developing 0:06
I am now projecting my consciousness into you. Stage one of world domination has begun
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neuroplasticity was it?
yep@@sekischro5093
My mother used to train horses. When she wanted to show them something like a whip or whatever she was trying to get them to see or understand, she would first show/demonstrate it to one side of their face and then the other. The idea was that both hemispheres needed to be directly shown. I dont know if any of that was true but my mom seemed to have great success with that method.
Your mother was right. Horses need to be trained about everything on both the left and
right sides. Learning to yield to the bridle to turn right does not teach them to yield to the bridle to turn left. A person typically mounts a horse from the left side. A horse that lets people mount from the left side in a normal, calm way may not let people mount from the right unless it has been specifically trained to do so.
I had a head injury in 2017 and lost my identity for quite some time. I'd been a lifelong journaler, but found i drew pictures now instead of writing sentences... linear structure was awkward for me, and geometric shapes and spatial relationships felt more representative of my thoughts than sentences did. Math (something i'd never studied) worked better than words. All the languages i spoke got jumbled up, i became intermittently ambidextrous and had issues remembering to do things like wear clothes or eat/drink... i still struggle with aspects of identity, but i feel a little comforted by this video, knowing maybe that unified self/fixed personality is a false construct and it's just that everybody else is doing it wrong. ;)
Not to give you hope or anything but I'd say try your hand at memory techniques, I'd recommend going with Andrew Metivier. The key to starting memory techniques is to actually start and start with memorizing genuinely useful and practical information
You might find artistic motion easier to communicate your being than language. If you use language to navigate artistic motions then you may be able to describe with more precision. For instance, the tempo, rhythms, intonations (pitches), timbres, intensities etc. of a voice tell you many contexts to a message. This uses musical motions to extend the language palette.
I had three aneurysms and found the maths underlying musical structure to be a nice analogy of movement. Maybe give it a go?
Others aren't doing it wrong...only differently. Wrong and right are also an illusion.
I was a working musician as a kid outside New Orleans actually--after my injury, i didn't remember that for about a year/18mos, but i do access that outlet (tho usually without knowing i've done it... i find recordings later on my computer that have convinced me it's still happening) :)
It feels like i've developed Executive Dysfunction or something, so when it comes to using words specifically to formulate my concrete thoughts, i am sometimes incapable of basic, simple linear structure@@tavisashton-bell7216
This reflects what I experience as a dyslexic. I think in images and pictures. I am good with maps but poor with directions. Automated motor functions like touch typing or playing a musical instrument dont automate. Very good at reading diagrams and constructing complex structures. I think in 3-D but cannot add or multiply. Very slow reade. The list is long. Short term memory just evaporates ....
This reminds me of my dyslexia. I say 'one' but my handwrites 'two' while thinking 'zero'
...and in reality the answer was 'a square hole' all along.
this reminds me of my life. What I want(two), what I think(one), what I do(zero), What will happen(a square hole).
I will be looking at the colour purple but verbalise that it is orange, then suddenly get irritated with myself and correct to purple. It’s so weird, it happens a lot with colours but also with thoughts. I dunno how to describe it
As someone with a PhD in the neuropsychology of musical performance, I know that learning to play a musical instrument engages all parts of the brain. I describe it by comparing the brain to a house with many rooms, each of which has an intercom to all the others. Trained instrumental musicians acquire a changed brain, with a fatter corpus collosum. I would explain to my sight singing students that the reason that singing a melody using the correct solfeggio syllables is difficult at first is because the syllables (words) are processed in the left temporal lobe whereas the melody is in the right temporal lobe. Using them together requires growing new connections across the corpus collosum. The advantage is that one gets a better, more integrated brain as a result, not only for music but for however one wants to use one's brain. The best academic students in the school of the arts where I taught were the instrumental music majors. Musicians tend to recover better from brain injuries as a result. Think of Gabby Giffords, who suffered damage to her left hemisphere but has relearned how to talk (!). She is a hornist. My question is how splitting the brain would affect a musician, at least in the short run.
As a life long percussionist I concur. I’ve often been asked by casual observers how I am able to manage performing a number of different physical movements, rhythmic structures and time signatures simultaneously. In my limited view, I can only surmise that it’s no more than muscle memory, something achieved through years of repetitious, mechanistic training. However, if I stop and consider that muscle contractions are the end product of signals transmitted by the brain, the shear complexity of all these separate movements being executed in an organized manner without any conscious intervention on my part (I don’t have to “think” about what I need my feet and arms and wrists to do in order to create a particular rhythmic pattern), it’s really a phenomenon of brain plasticity as opposed to the musculature system.
One of the hardest things I ever did, was listen to a channel feed in one ear.
Plus listen to another in the other ear.
Plus listen another over head in both ears.
Oh & have to respond to each, while still keeping track of the other channels.
Plus run a activity monitor in a war zone.
Type responses into the monitor.
All them at the same time.
Much harder than playing a piano and singing.
After 3 hours I was exhausted and had to be relieved. Because at least one task had to go. But all of it was needed to make the right decision.
Then I got to do something easy. Reading, sorting, selecting, routing of classified traffic and registering messages and preparing a briefing to the CO.
The 2 briefings were the easiest part of the day
12 hours a day, in 6 hour shifts.
But did have a minor stroke in the close to the right ear, recently. That effects my balance. Closing my eyes while standing is difficult.
Plus the constant 15,000 cycle sound in the right ear in quiet rooms is loud and annoying.
Just having the TV or radio on, helps a lot.
Don't just love the AI that helps with spelling and grammar.
That’s very interesting!
Just found out that hands can interfere with each other and try to do the same task differently. Like there’s 2 different people, and each person is tied to a different hand. I’m extremely interested in seeing someone with this condition play the guitar for example.
Also you said that melody is in right hemisphere, wouldn’t that mean that these people will have problems with intonation?
When there are kids who aren't learning music their parents should have to spend their weekends picking up garbage by the freeway. As a little kid I loved hearing Bach on the woodwinds. Adults are the "No" people. "We know you really don't want to do that". Grammar is interesting when you learn foreign languages but learning English grammar year after year is lightyears beyond boring. Only one time were we taught any music and I remember "Hot Cross Buns" which is not music but a very annoying noise you can make with a musical instrument. Just running your fingers across a guitar or piano makes a nice sound. Must be great to be in a school where you get to learn things instead of an institution ran by drop outs with education degrees instead of at least average accomplished people with a-little passion.
Fascinating. I always viewed consciousness as a bunch of feedback loops of the brain trying understand the context for everything. It's feedback loops upon feedback loops, as are the majority of systems within the body, be it hormonal, immunological, blood pressure etc.
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This instantly makes me think of DID. The disconnection between parts of the brain, which then allows for the initiation of diverted consciousnesses. In one case it's a doctor's physical interruption, while the other is a survival strategy when full connection to all of the brain's experiences would compromise the 'ecosystems' willingness to continue living. Consciousness is one of the bigger reasons I wanted to dive into neurobiology, but the specialization was in China and I felt too unstable to chance leaving my security system behind.
i thought this too!
Everyone that drinks too much knows that personality changes once parts become incapacitated.
It is not the real you that comes out, but a damaged you, which is something else.
this is something I've inherently known for years yet couldn't figure out why I had this knowledge...now I do!!! I have a brain injury and have never been the same since, but have always been grateful for the things it taught me.
i knew about this because one of my inner selves is the one that wakes me up in time when i ask him to wake me up the night before. Like just telling myself i need to wake up at 6am, i will regain consciousness around 5:55. It amazes me how well it can keep track of the time. All i need to give him is a look at the clock before bed so he knows his starting point. Works like clockwork.
Same worked for me for certain amount of time though I said that to my whole self.
I have to start doing that again
All hunters can do that. In C.S. Lewis' "The Chronicles of Narnia" the characters mention casually how that's common for people to do.
I myself will always, without fail, wake up 4 hours before my alarm clock, unless I try and trick the system, by setting my alarm 4 hours ahead. Then it will wake me up 4 hours before the time I actually want to wake up from.
It makes working a 9-4 hell on earth. X'D
Mentally ill
i thought it was just me, it's like an internal backup alarm. it has saved me from being late to shifts when my alarms wouldn't go off, although most of the time it's because i'll turn the last alarm off and go back to sleep without realizing that it was the last one lol. but then it's like something will jolt me awake minutes later, just before i would run out of time to get ready. i don't have a consistent sleep schedule, i rarely go to sleep at a regular hour because i have insomnia, so it absolutely isn't from my circadian rhythm which makes this even weirder
Yea, I feel like everyone accepts that we have an internal clock in our brains that can accurately wake us up with +/- 5 minutes of accuracy and we're randomly surprised by it when our alarms aren't set because we just wake up on time anyways.
Something curious about the human brain is specifically what senses and parts of the brain are more or less active during sleep. It seems that while we are unconscious our brains are still scanning for threats and interpreting language. I have answered questions asked to me while I was sleeping with zero recollection of it. Even though the part of my brain that forms memories was not yet active, the part that can interpret and respond to speech was. It made me wonder if the version of me that is dreaming is different from the version of me that constantly stands guard.
In our dreams most of us don't smell, hear, or taste anything, just sight and some sense of touch, but that sense of touch is usually just our real sense of touch making through into the dream. We sort of "hear" sounds, but its some black magic our brain is performing where we know what someone said and we know what their voice sounded like, but we never heard them say words to us; our brains just make us falsely remember that we heard it because that's the only thing that would make sense to us.
Anyways, point is that our dreams don't actually use any of our senses besides sight. All of the real senses remain active during your dreams, constantly interpreting what's happening around you and deciding whether or not it is worth waking you up. The brain is actually using some thinking in this process, for example someone simply talking is less likely to wake us up than someone saying our name. We unconsciously know that our name means someone needs us to wake up. We are also discerning familiar and unfamiliar voices/sounds, tastes and smells while asleep.
When I was a teen, I was suffering from occasional strong seizures, similar or equivalent in my opinion to a brief but intense grand-mal type. I was put through some tests but there was never any conclusive diagnosis, and ultimately I was slapped with "Micromotor Seizures". Eventually as i got older, my severe malnutrition was self corrected and they went away, although sometimes if I experience enough stress, I'll have a kind of confusion episode where I become disoriented and have to take a moment to figure out what I'm doing and what's going on. Otherwise, I'm all better.
BUT, back then, I would get upset, get a sudden sense of "dread" or "doom" or "bad thing coming", a strange phantom sense of "hot wiring" somewhere inside me, and BOOM, my thoughts would disintegrate into a flurry of random bits and pieces of thought and I'd experience a strong muscular jerk as if I'd been electrocuted. Afterward, I'd be very confused about where I was and what I'd been doing, and I'd have to take a moment to re-orient. Also, very tired. This was the norm for several of these episodes, all save one, which was also one of the last I ever experienced:
I was about 20 years old at this time. I had been working on a BASIC computer program and was deeply frustrated about a specific failure I couldn't seem to reason my way around, and was pretty much at the yell and slam phase, lol. I remember thinking "Uh oh..." as a strong sense of burning wiring invaded my mind and a little confusion took over my thoughts. BAM. Without any sense of change, or strangeness, or confusion of any kind, I was about 6 years old and dressed for winter cold weather, heavy coat and boots and mittens and all that. It wasn't winter, though, it was fall. My older brother and sister were with me, also dressed for the cold. The sky was typical northern US fall gray, and the trees were mostly bare, but a strong blustery breeze was blowing fallen leaves all around us. It was a fun time outside with my brother and sister, playing in the front yard in the driveway.
And then I was back at the computer confused as hell and very rattled, shaky and tired. The experience had only lasted seconds but was absolutely, perfectly real. While "there" in the supposed past, I had no memory what so ever of my adult or even teen life. I was just a kid doing kid things. Now back in the present I was struggling to understand everything, shaken from a hard seizure and given an experience that has left me with deep questions about the nature of reality ever since. I have asked my brother and sister if they remember anything like the place and event I described from that experience, and they don't have anything to offer me. They say it doesn't line up with the house my family lived in before the one I remember as a child, because I was too young, just a toddler. So, I'm afraid I'll never know just exactly what that was. But, it happened, and felt every bit as real as any other part of my life thus far, all some crazy, cosmic gift from a catastrophe of neurological chaos. A gift wrapped in question marks and existential mystery.
Some notes:
The underlying cause of my seizures, I believe to have been caused by severe malnutrition. My parents turned a blind eye as I caved into consuming ridiculous amounts of sugar in instant iced tea and little else. I was severely underweight and severely malnutrified. D- for parenting and not just for that. I was also being badly physically and mentally bullied at school, something else they turned a blind eye to.
The experience of "flurry of random thoughts" during the episodes is something I've found very curious. Picture the inner chatter of your mind, if you're one of the people that has that. Now picture experiencing weeks worth of that chatter but only in split second bits and pieces, in completely random order, at a rate of dozens or more a second. I tend to think of it as "thoughts in a blender" and for good reason. There is no sense of self during this, only the blur of thought fragments. Broken moments in time flying by too fast for me to exist.
@@monad_tcp IDKWTF you're talking about. But I will suggest this: Try merging BASIC with machine code and then interfacing it with external, hand made electronic hardware, circa 1988. That may be why you found it easier than what I was doing. Get your ass out of that "Hello World" rut and take it places that matter.
I just wanted to say that I experienced the same flashback-esque thing, and it's comforting to know I'm not crazy lol.
I was 15 years old and getting chewed out by my parents, all of a sudden everything was just wrong. I honestly can't describe it, the closest I can get is that everything just shut down. I kinda gasped out uh oh while I slid down the wall and my vision faded out.
Next thing I remember is being a farmer in a field, 26 years old with a wife, 2 daughters and a son. I could remember my entire life, I felt every sensation and emotion. And then I was sitting on the floor and weak, and so confused. I knew my real self right away but I still felt like that other life had been real and I spent months horribly depressed and grieving an entire family.
For years I kept looking out for my wife, just in case it was some insane fantasy romance plot but luckily the memories have faded. I don't remember their names or faces anymore, though I know they were all ginger except the boy who had my hair
@@panzeratom695 Omg thank you so much for sharing that. All these many many years since it happened to me and mostly I've just plain been 100% unwilling to discuss it with anyone because, you know how people are. They can't be content with just not believing you, many need to attack outright what they don't understand. Safer to hide it away, right? Spend an entire lifetime with incredible secrets ratting around in your head for having to live in a primitive world full of hate and fear.
Anyway, I digress. I find it utterly fascinating that yours is a flip of mine. Whereas mine could be a real childhood memory if only I could trace the past into some direction I'd forgotten long ago, yours is completely impossible to prove real, barring some leap in comprehension in consciousness and the nature of reality. You have no choice but to carry that around with you for life, and though time will fade it, it will never leave you 100%. The only peace you may ever find with it is within deep self exploration or some kind of great revelation of mind or in the final passing from this world. Who knows. But one thing I can tell you is that reality, especially in the context of personal experience, is VASTLY more complex than any of us realize, and the full depth of experience is far beyond comprehension.
You're very lucky to have seen past the shell that keeps us rooted so strongly in the moment, even though it may feel deeply unfair and hurtful. I know that feeling from a couple of dreams I had of another reality where I was just beginning to start a full and committed life with someone very special. When I woke up the pain was horrid, and I knew I'd never see her again. Took a long time to forget and move on. Took a long time to care about moving on, to be honest, that's how hurtful that was. Call it just a dream, whatever, but that was a whole life out there, and she was "the one', someone I'd built something real and important with. The pain was real enough for me.
A suggestion for you, something I've been doing for a long time now. As you drift off to sleep at night, close your eyes and drift outward into the blackness. Feel yourself moving forward into it, like it's a place. It will take you places. Your experience makes me think you're already a little bit "loose" in your binding to this reality. You can use that, put it to work for you. The harder you push, and the more you explore, the more it will bring you. Push hard enough and your experiences will pile up and your questions about what is possible will become endless.
Good luck, my friend. May your path take you to extraordinary places. ♥
Woow 😮 how did you fix your malnutrition? I think I'm on similar lines as I'm extremely thin, so I wanted to know how did your malnutrition, by food or by multivitamins? If multivitamins, in which form? Pls 🙏
@@titfortatt-regionalist This one day I was doing my usual iced tea with WAY too much sugar in it and it just suddenly hit me - this is why I'm having problems. The massive sugar intake was no doubt the most of it, but once I decided to cut back, I had to face the reality of replacing it with actual food. At that time I was also having massive psychological problems from a long history of physical and mental abuse, so I still thought that I was God's Mistake, "The Stain on the World", and so I really wasn't concerned with existing. In fact, I thought if I died, everyone would be happier. Wasn't until I started to develop rage over the abuse that I started to think in any way that my health mattered, so I wasted yet more years just not trying. Anyone that tried to care for me was rewarded with a kind of "What's wrong with you?" attitude, and I was still punishing myself any way possible WHILE being increasingly angry about people punishing me. Wouldn't make sense unless you've been there. After several years I simply started eating and drinking better, and caring about living instead of hating myself so much. I believe it was those things that made the most difference. I gained so much weight that I started to look buff, and I would stare at myself in the mirror like "Who are you?" Took forever to get used to that, like, nearly 20 years. Also, I had moved to a nice place on a farm in the country, which did me wonders, and my then gf was freakishly into supplements of all kinds. Still, I won't tell you it was the vities and such that did it. It wasn't. It was a change in self, in mind, and in spirit. I grew some self worth. When you do that, you heal thyself, despite all the wounds.
It’s late at night and I personally, in my own story, am unsurprisingly on a low dosage of shrooms exploring the universe instead of doing the responsible thing of going to sleep at a reasonable hour for work.
I come across this video, and in some way through all the vast means that the world has to offer, it shows me this video as an answer to one of my deepest questions.
It hit me like a wave, a sudden and sharp “wait, I just felt like there was someone else here, inside my skin, someone I haven’t seen in a LONG time.” A sense of familiarity from my childhood, full of wonder and clarity that my 26 year old brain is all too alien to understand anymore, but still holds a sense of nostalgia.
You answered EVERYTHING, and used all the same paths I used to get to the conclusions. Fantastic video, and super helpful in my own personal journey. Thanks man.
It makes sense to me (non neurologically trained) that we’d have multiple “people” within our mind simultaneously. When we experience massive amounts of trauma our brain is our most essential survival trait is our brain and it must compensate.
The conclusion that there must be multiple personalities or consciousness from this experiment seems like a massive stretch. The brain keeps working as it would but information isn't being passed to both sides. That's literally all they've proven, not that these people now had two consciousness
@@adamdunne6645 in a corpus callosotomy, the hemispheres still have lesser alternative connections through the brainstem and spinal cord, but yeah you're right.
@@adamdunne6645 I can tell that you think very shallowly. The information not passing to both sides can be used to infer other things, and at least bring them into discussion. And no one said anything about multiple conciousness' and thats how i know you didn't understand the video. The idea was that conciousness was a combination of all of these parts of the brain. He said multiple "you's", not multiple personalities or multiple conciousnesses like you seemed to think he said. Please, open up your mind and look at everything from a different point of view because right now you seem very skeptical about something even though it was merely a thoery on this guys behalf involving his book.
@@o2Hayden Your opening sentence kills the rest of your comment. If you're gonna be a prick, don't expect anybody to read the rest of your comment.
My mom had both seizures and multiple personality disorder. I grew up with that as my normal. So I have always referenced my brain as separate from my self. Can have arguments with myself with good responses of opposing ideas. Kinda nice I think most people can do that just some people dont.
Fun fact: some people seem to lack the ability to have an internal monologue. As strange as it sounds the ability to talk to yourself in your head might not be universal.
MPD/DID is EXCEEDINGLY/excessively rare as far as verified cases go. Enter suspicion here.
@@MattH-wg7ou?
@@MattH-wg7ouNot THAT rare. A quick Google says 1.5% have DID but lets say it's ene 10th if that. That mean 1200 of the viewers of this video has DID. Or one 100th 120. Secondly a friend of mine have DID due to a mother with Munchausen by Proxy (that is even less common), and it's very interesting to experience. It cripples her life but my bet is that is what kept her alive.
Ive got an internal constant code processor of useless info. I turn words into numbers and then add all the digits to see the words "total" then i ascribe some kind of significance to the number whatever it is. I see my birthday constantly and backward as well. Or i subtract things you normally dont. Like i was born 5 10 84. Subtract 15 from 84 u got 69. So i got a birth total number of 69. Pretty funny. Also nuerotic as hell but ive learned to deal w it.
I remember one time on a acid trip feeling a sense of an "Ununified" self.
I could hear all of the trillions of cells in my body firing off and talking to each other.
It was like I had a whole galaxy full of stars cheering me on and rooting for our collective benefit.
This video makes me feel like that experience wasn't so illusory as it seemed at the time.
It's almost like the sensation of schizophrenia where you start to disassociate and experience the other voices as not your own but instead I was hyper aware that all of the voices were indeed coming from what I perceived to be "Me"
Single Unified consciousness is an illusion 🤔
Trinity: the mystery of THREE being ONE, and One being Three...
I had a similar experience. You feel EVERY part of your body. I remember even feeling the blood pumping through my veins. It was such a beautiful feeling. I think our bodies naturally “silence” all of these voices to help us focus on surviving.
My (many) lsd experiences always made me think i was connecting all my "selves" with all the "selves" of everything else with consciousness, so yes in the singular, unified consciousness seems an illusion, but grand scheme wise, it seems we all link consciously at some higher level than science yet understands, I always referred to it as 6th or 7th senses, 6th being aware of others feelings like they are your own, and 7th being that sense of being many at once, yet still single. (if that made sense to you awesome, cause most ppl i say things like this to look at me as a nut or a demon, when in reality if we knew we were ALL from the same "whole consciousness" at some level, who would ever hurt anyone intentionally?)
@BenSmith-jw8zy I felt you bro 🎯
Same in shroms, just don't know what's past, future, present, memories, taste, sound, colors, etc. Strange as fuck, every external and internal stimuli change everything at the point that my conscious understand that I died but don't understand why I'm still existing.
Fascinating! I have "Multiple Personality Disorder" aka "Disassociation Identity Disorder". Your video helps me understand how my brain might have built the neurological "walls" it needed to establish in order for me to emotionally survive the trauma of my childhood. In fact, my internal "house" has a structure that looks like rooms where my different personalities each "live" and have their own space. It has been a journey working with my therapist these past 16 years to find my way through the maze of my own mind. The brain is an amazing organ. Thank you.
OH MY GOSH!! SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS IT! Forgive my enthusiasm, I'm just impressed! What is it like? DID/OSDD is so common for kids to fake. I've only ever met one person (two including you) who actually have it. I've always been fascinated by it, but information is so scarce and muddled by 14 year olds faking it to roleplay as a Roblox character or a character from whatever is trending at the moment (Encanto, Hazbin Hotel, etc)...
Do you feel comfortable talking about your experiences or elaborating? Again, sorry if this is all a bit too intrusive 😅
I had my first ever seizure 3 years ago whilst in a hospital for something else. I remember waking up and hearing peoples voices. I think one was saying "he's coming round" and saying my name. At first i didn't know what was going on and i couldn't feel anything, and within a few seconds i remember seeing things around me. Someone asked "do you know where you are?". I had one arm free and reached forward into air and studied my environment. It took me a couple of seconds to work out that i was on my side on a floor with peoples legs in front of me. "Im on a floor" i said. All the legs were weird because they were pointing sideways from my perspective. I recognised a pair of shoes and said "oh, ive just seen you" (in the appointment i was in for).
After that i became away i was being heavily restrained from behind, with my other arm up my back and a nurses knee bracing my back also. Some sort of recovery position. Anyway, im ok now. Its not quite as good an experience as others on here but it was definitely akin to booting up.
I thought about the "one but divided" consciousness theory, but it's dead impossible to explain. Or just it seemed so. You've managed, I'm so glad to hear more people talk about it!
It's a great way to learn empathy when you realize you may be living the life of the person you are arguing with.
It's more evidence on the mountain of evidence that proves free will is nothing more than incredible illusion; yet something our brains cook up without our consent.
Neuroscience with FMRI scans and other tests, is starting to show that "consciousness" is an illusion. There is no one "you", it's really a bunch of separate processes that get formed into the illusion of a whole. And it doesn't even happen in real-time, your brain edits your recent memory to insert the illusion! So, you do a thing, without really "intending" to. Then the brain edits your memory to put "I intend to do this thing" just before you actually did it.
You still have intent, or at least, it seems you do, but it doesn't work nearly as simply as it seems to.
Even without MRI there's tricks scientists can use. And people with severe brain injuries, localised to one or two areas, who survived, have provided all sorts of examples, sometimes shocking.
read about the brahman
@@Ardeactlol well if there's another "me" inside of my mind, then he's a total a-hole for insulting me all the time and bringing me down, whichever me that is....
Now the question is how much the personalities of the two halves equal to each other. It's really fascinating and I hope there will be more research about this!
This is hands down one of the coolest things I've seen on RUclips. What I learned here will definitely change the way I look at alot of things.
Im so glad when I see actual content on reels and not just stupid skits/trends. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
After studying these split brain cases in college, I came to realize that the sense of self is indeed an illusion. I believe that the self is an ever evolving pattern of information, we are not human beings but rather human becomings. Every moment a distinctly different you emerges defined by unique psychological and physiological states.
I’ve had many debates with friends discussing the fundamental question “who am I?” , it’s quite refreshing and validating to see someone else express these same ideas so eloquently in this video.
I’m very interested in reading your book, where may I find it?
If everything and everyone is part of self can anything truly be called self? There simply is what is. Phenomena
My feeling is that consciousness or identity is unnecessary therefore likely to be an illusion. As long as I believe I am real, I am real.
This to me is somewhat substantiated because we make up entire identity characteristics of others merely upon their appearance. If we without evidence believe our constructs about others, and everyone is constructing these identities for others, then would we not have our self identity confirmed without ever actually having to have one. If nature can perform this short-hand then consciousness is redundant and thus without evolutionary necessity.
You're asking all the right questions!
...and maybe, as well as being individual human-becomings, (becoming what exactly...?) we are also separate parts of a single life-form called the human race. Every new evolutionary state of each individual is at the same time a small part of the process of an evolving whole...that we may call earth. Or the universe. Or the multiverse. Or god.
Whatever you said in this comment, sire, is indicative of you moving in the right direction, if that's what you found from experience it's all the better...you just have to get the thrust from an appropriate master...trust me it's all you need right now
Good video. Thanks. I recall many years ago seeing a two headed snake in an aquarium. One head had full control the body. Whenever the snake moved the head not in control would drag it’s open mouth in the sand. This disturbed me. I couldn’t help but relate to the snake. That led me on a journey of realizing I was composed of multiple selves, one in conscious control , others occasionally acting out their frustration with that self by various self- sabotaging actions.
I've thought about the possibility of a personality being composed of a "committee" of people in our minds for a long time. But your comment and analogy with the snake really put that idea into words better than I ever managed. It really explains the absurdity of our self-contradictory and self- destructive actions beautifully.
It would be interesting to know how this all connects up with the kind of comparmentalisation that goes on in cases of Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Great question...its the 1st thing I thought of when he mentioned the hundred personalities competing for ownership of the body. 👏👍🏻
Have a DID diagnosis and obviously was thinking the same thing while watching this.
As someone with DID, this was one of my initial thoughts when watching this vid. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
I was thinking the same thing. does DID show what happens when these different conciseness do not agree often
@@single_dad_of3 in my experience it’s not so much as a visual stimuli but a perspective, when “different consciousness do not agree” it’s like having 2 or more perspective options to choose in from in ur brain and it’s up to u which one to follow. DID is like having a body that will peel your face/personality right off and replace it with a new/different one on there without your acknowledging your own will. You have one body but many masks to put on. DID is like you can feel/hear/understanding the world through your own lens that you can adjust based on the perspectives of the version of you at the current state. Though, keep in mind the most prominent thing with people with DID is the fact that we feel like passengers in our own body and free-will is an illusion. Hope this helps n hope it makes sense lmao
The brain is not multiple selves. These experiments show that when they split brains, both brains continue to function independently, but, that doesn't mean there's two consciousnesses. As long as each half of the brain is connected to the nervous system, each half can independently control the rest of the body. This just means there's two independently functioning brains, regardless of whether the consciousness occupies one side or the other, or whether it still controls both sides simultaneously, or whether it alternates between sides if that's a plausible possibility in his situation. I'm assuming that each eye is on a separate, independent circuit to each half of the brain, and same for each ear, but it's not clear that this is the case for the rest of the body. An interesting experiment would be to completely separate the stimuli going into the right half from the stimuli going into the left half, and then seeing if there was any way for that information from the right half to show up in the left half or vice versa, at that time or at a later time, without any physical information sharing going on between the two halves via the body. This experiment would test for whether the man's consciousness has access to both right and left sides of the brain while not being physically limited by the brain's and body's connections.
You're right. But most of the people here thinks the brain is one. However it's actually different parts in a unisome.
While I've held these ideas of consciousness before, when it comes to the split brain experiment I never actually thought it ceased information flow between brains. I assumed that since the human body always seemed so interconnected and elaborate that they'd find some way to exchange information.
That's called being sociopathic. The ability to manipulate ones own emotions, turn them off even. It is not the misconceived lack of emotion... Also, people can live full normal lives and never realize. In fact, the Doctor who discovered it... discovered it by accident when his own brain scans got mixed in with the ones he was studying. He himself, being a sociopath. (They can see it on cat scans?) Brain has some sort of pattern. Also if what you said WAS true... I am not a doctor and I can't diagnose you. But you're def most likely a sociopath. The issues stim, when you turn of your emotions to do terrible things. Remember to feel, otherwise you might stop being able too.@@SilverStarFour
@@SilverStarFourignore the commenter above sociopath isn’t a diagnostic criteria and hasn’t been for decades, also anti social personality disorder isn’t quite the same, what you are describing is disassociation, it’s a mental way of protecting ones self, it’s not anything wrong with you but it can cause problems, so maybe talk to a counselor or therapist about it if you have the chance, but you don’t exactly have to stop doing it just don’t let it take over cause it can cause long term emotional troubles down the road (speaking from personal experience)
@@EC-dz4bq sociopath and psychopath are both outdated and not really accurate, what you are talking about is either the physical structure of schizophrenia, or the different development of people with antisocial personality disorder both of which can be seen on brain scans and used to be considered under those older diagnostic criteria, now for the other section, being able to shut off ones emotions is usually a side effect of heavy dissociation.
The hemispheres do (or can) communicate with each other still, through the eyes and ears, just not directly
Back in the 70's I was working on the psychiatric floor of a hospital. A gentleman there was blind but was convinced he could see. He would tell you what he thought you looked like and what you were wearing.
was he ever right?
@@sgcarney Never.
I can't really diagnose him with that info, but he might have Anton syndrome. Usually I think it's seen in patients who have a Posterior cerebral artery stroke. It can be seen in other pathologies too ofcourse.
@@saianvesh3753 That's exactly right. Guys from UBC hospital used to study him. He was something of a hospital celebrity at the time.
Incredibly fascinating. I like to believe that people who experience hallucinations are experiencing a version of reality that we just aren't tuned into.
I love the simple question "Who are you?". The answer may seem simple, you're a chef, a construction worker, a technician, or a mom or a dad, you're a celebrity, an influencer or just a nice person. Fine answers, but those are things you do or can do. Then you may start listing up a list of personality traits, calm, energetic, thoughtful, sincere, curious, etc. Again, fine answers, but those are things you outwardly appear, the person I see.
"Who are you?" is so much deeper, it's a question you truly can't answer. Who truly is this entity, beyond brain activity and neuros, this "observer"? The one experiencing everything once you remove everything else from the picture and only you yourself can confirm exists and nobody else.
It's kinda unsettling, equal when you first ask that question yourself perhaps when you're a kid and realize you can't answer it and it gives you this uncomfortable feeling which nobody else can answer for you either, like you can feel the panic behind it. Once again though, are we truly the person that is panicking? The technician dad who's a calm and sincere person, are we them, or are we the observer sitting behind a 4th wall pretending we are this person and feeling what it is to be something?
Where is the illusion drawn? Whether the illusion is consciousness the brain produces to appear whole or the illusion is everything else the brain does to the "you" to think we are what we observe and experience, both are fascinating, or if there's something else or more we don't know.
Thanks for the existential crisis. Great video! Very thought provoking.
This reminds me of how some scientists suggest octopuses' have "distributed brains" that all work together. It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the mechanics, for them and us (and all things with brains).
This is so crazy. I’ve always felt like people around me have been engraved in my brain and have become apart of myself/personality. Love to hear someone say this because it makes me feel understood.
As someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), this video really resonated with me. There are similarities in the compartmentalization described in this video with DID. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
Same
fascinating.
Also same.
Been reading about this the last couple of months. Currently studying a lot about trauma therapy and trauma. The degree to which traumatic experiences can shape the development of the brain is astonishing and scary at the same time.
I tape one eye or use contacts in one eye only to get some weird effects. Ita like meditation.
Love your work, thanks! One technical point…
ChatGPT:
The right eye itself does not connect solely to the left brain hemisphere. Instead, it’s the right field of vision from both eyes that connects to the left hemisphere of the brain.
Here’s how it works:
- Each eye's field of vision is divided into two parts: the left visual field and the right visual field.
- The left visual field of both eyes is processed by the right hemisphere of the brain.
- The right visual field of both eyes is processed by the left hemisphere of the brain.
This means that the left half of the retina in each eye (which captures the right visual field) sends signals to the left hemisphere, and the right half of the retina in each eye (which captures the left visual field) sends signals to the right hemisphere.
The visual information from each eye crosses over at the optic chiasm, allowing the brain to process visual inputs in a coordinated manner.
Yep. Thanks. I can't tell you how much I want RUclips to allow me to edit the video to correct that. Alas.
@@sgcarney Happens to us all. 😂 No “undo” button in life. 🙂👍
This concept seems so difficult to imagine until you have a psychedelic experience or deeply embrace a meditation practice.
Man you are so right.
As I was watching the video it reminded me of my first mushroom experience, where I found myself observing "myself" from the outside.
Consciousness is really something else
❤
Simulation? Or
Interesting I see this comment as I think I’m preparing myself to take my first trip and”heal” so to speak…
@@Imhotep_DrummerJones Know your substance, be in a nice and secure feeling setting with only a person or people you trust, explore the foothills (dosage wise) to become familiar with the terrain before aiming for the snowy mountaintops, relax and submit to the experience - I hope you find it at least half as helpful for healing as I do. 🥰
5:20 As a software engineer I find this interesting, as it is the exact same behavior those large language model AI’s like ChatGPT display when confronted with information they don’t have: inventing a story to explain the discrepancy instead of realizing that something isn’t right.
So one ai model acts as a separate half of brain?
So ai is currently working like one half of a human brain? And has yet to become fully "sentient"
@@Сталкер-ь2хI think of it more of like a separate piece than a full half.
Our brains do a lot of stuff. We have dedicated parts which handle stuff like recognizing facial expressions or just processing eyesight. Having ChatGPT is likely a lot like splitting a brain in the sense that it's just one piece that would normally have many many other pieces alongside it. But, I think it's a very interesting idea to look at the similarities. I wonder what would happen if you just cobbled together a bunch of different kinds of AI models and tried to wire them similarly to humans. Hard to say, but the future is both terrifying and exciting
@@kneesnap1041 interestingly enough, some people already succesfully used 2 AIs together, for example to teach one AI how to drive in trackmania a second ai was used to scan monitor in-game and transfer decoded monitor data to first ai, who is responsible for actions
(hope this was clear enough)
@@Сталкер-ь2х yup
At a young age, I questioned how others had seen me. How I can't see myself outside my body. This was my consciousness questioning my own existence of how the world saw me. Crazy cool to think.
@@jamesfoxsmith you can it’s a mirror 🪞 lol and if you want third person just use a camera
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 I believe she means to see and judge ones self as others would without their own personal bias.
@@jamesfoxsmithdon’t be sad. Exist a lot of you, as many people live in the world and see you. Don’t care about it, it’s normal and to accept
My son was born missing his corpus callosum. This is definitely a need to watch video!
Woah! Kim Peek is the only person I've ever heard of that was born this way! Amazing. I hope all is well with both of you!
Maby not. Trust your neuro!
I don't have a split brain and I notice it quite often. For example when I'm High if you tell me something I need some time to be able to reflect on it as if I didn't internalize the information yet but I can instantly respond as if I already did process the information. The part of me that speaks knows what was said and can elaborate a response but the interference of THC makes it take time for the part of me that makes plans to receive the information. When I study I'm not High so there isn't a gap so stark that I can talk about something I have no real understanding of but there is a noticeable gap in time between when I read something and when I understand it and I need to constantly take pauses to let my whole brain keep up the pace, and by the way I am not a slow learner, in fact I am incredibly quick at studying probably because I can understand so clearly when my whole brain is up to speed which massively reduces back tracking, in fact I don't backtrack at all. Moving from information absorption to elaboration I often get micro-feelings connected to superficial insights into my behaviour because a smaller part of my brain hasn't internalized properly why I behaved a certain way, which prompts me to quite literally ask another part of me why I did something so that I can relay it back and assuade those micro-feelings which promptly dissolve into my general consciousness as a result. There aren't multiple parts of us vying for control, I can attest to being all the parts of me, sometimes simply an information doesn't get passed around evenly or there is an issue in communication and that creates a sense of separation but it's not a separation like that between two consciousnesses it's more like getting a cut and feeling it in your left arm but not your right arm only the cut is an information gap and like a cut it tends to heal itself, we are just often too distracted by the outside or our thoughts to notice these silent imbalances.
Well said. THC has given many people a higher quality of life, no pun intended. I smoke recreationally. I don't promote smoking recreationally. I don't condemn those who do. You have incredible self awareness.
That's the problem with cannabinoids (etc.) - they do give so many illusions and delusions that in the end you will most likely end up with the rest of them - not sure of anything, or of 'where the ground lies' and mildly or severely psychotic, in a world where everything becomes subjective. That's only in relation to 'the rest of us', of course, yet many like that are eventually unable to take care of themselves, let alone others. It's a very dangerous game which has become a sport. I can only wish you good luck.
And there you have it, a perfect example of what consciousness is. I believe every single lifeform goes through the same kind of processes you just described, with slight variations of course. One of your variations however is that you are able to verbalize these processes. If they are objectively correct or not does not really matter experiantially because it is all a play from «your» consciousness and what makes you «you». Because you feel that all of these different parts are «you» does not disregard that you are in fact a superorganism that consists of several «you’s». It is important to distinguish between a self and consciousness. We are not talking about several consiousnesses. In this setting that would not make any sense at all because consciousness is not a «thing» that can be measured by any means (as of now at least). Think of consciousness as an infinitely large canvas and all the parts of «you» are the content on that canvas. So, your explanation is just «your» consciousness making sense of it all. In some sense your explanation is a perfect confirmation of what this video brought up. But hey, this is just «my» consciousness trying to make sense of it all.
The multiple personalities is one of the easiest ways to come to grips with why humans are different from AI. The biggest difference between us and AI is that we can ask ourselves questions before we come to any conclusions about answers. However, when we say 'ask ourselves', what we don't usually realize is that we are actually communicating with different parts/personalities within ourselves with each and every interaction that we make. If someone created an AI that was really 2 AI that would confirm and deny different questions within itself before it gave any answer, it would be incredibly close to the way a human thinks.
exactly
Interesting POV
@@TheMaliciousZephyr This isn't about the AI developing consciousness on it's own. It's about us figuring out how to make an AI conscious in the same way a person is.
Aren't they already making AI systems that are multiple specialist AI working together?
@@AusJapanyou cant its literally impossible
My extensive meditation practice has also made me realize this in my own experience. But lately I've had some new insights into the nature of consciousness and its even more baffling. When you descend the layers of perception, removing more and more filters, at some point perception ceases to exist and its all just vibrations and pulses, all the senses start collapsing into the same kind of vibrations and the whole universe is just vibrating into existence along with consciousness. In fact one could say that the universe is made out of consciousness.
Not sure what to make of this, I guess its a thing now
That is a fact
Wtf do you mean with vibrations and pulses? Why don't you describe your experience in your own words instead of using this dubious vibrations-talk?
@@hellucination9905 Well then let me illustrate my point using this very sentence you're reading: Notice the screen these words are appearing on, the shape and color of the letters. Notice how you are aware of these shapes and colors. Notice the voice in your head, that appears as you read these words. Maybe also notice the image of yourself reading, as you hear them. Now notice that you are also aware of all of these things. See that you are aware of everything you percieve. Of these shapes and colors, the voice in your mind that is making sounds from the letters. You could say that everything you percieve is infused with awareness.
But what is awareness? Start focusing on the shared quality of all these perceptions, this awakeness. What is it made of? Do not think about it, just look, feel. Do not focus on the content of experience, focus on the experience of awakeness.
That sounds amazing. I do a section of my meditation where I ask ‘who perceives?’ I’ve noticed I cannot hear a sound without identifying it. This makes me feel I don’t have access to my actual perceptions but only after they’ve been processed by some non conscious part of me.
The Bible says the universe was made by the word, so it must be sound vibrations.
I know of a lady who had purchased her mother's home, the house where she had gown up and her mother had a little apartment of her own, until her mother developed a brain tumor. The tumor was operable and they were able to remove it, but the woman lost all of her memories of the last 20 years.
When they got the diagnosis of the brain tumor, they moved mom back into the house setting her up in what had been the daughter's room.
Before the surgery mom even mentioned it was strange situation. But after the surgery her daughter wasn't a successful 33 year old married woman, she was 13 again. Her beardly teenaged daughter had "taken over" her house and was sleeping in *HER* room with an adult man. The woman called the police, and the police were very confused when a grown woman answered the door.
It was not easy convincing the mother that she had lost the last 20 years of memories, that it was 2003, not 1983, and her daughter was married and now owned her house, but things did eventually settle down. However, she never regained her lost memories.
I never read about this, never experienced brain abnormalities, and never took heavy drugs, but I had observed exactly this in my own mind. When paying close attention to my consciousness, I noticed distinct signals coming from distinct sources simultaneously and that different parts of "me" take control of "me" in different instances. I noticed this in other people as well, where different sides of their personalities (that appear unrelated or out of continuity) take turns running the show in different moments. Like everything else, parts form (the semblance of) a whole.
Can you explain how you do this if you can? But thats hardcore
@@dinguskong5828 nothing that profound, just meditation/mindfulness techniques, as different thoughts arise and disappear you can observe and recognize they're mixed signals coming from all over the place rather than a neat, stable, singular throughline of conscious intention
It is very interesting how we have sort of these different 'selves' to us which comprise the whole. Even more interesting are the dichotomies between them. This is a huge ramble, but bear with me. I've only bothered because I think you have a perspective that will make what I have to say interesting for you. I'm curious what you think, even if you only touch one stone on my wall.
I might be in a unique position to experience that split-mind thing lol. I have ADHD, so I can't get away from how nonlinear my thoughts are. The only time things are linear, I have little perception of thought. I am in hyperfocus and am doing, not thinking. I wrote everything below in one, and although I went back a lot and added more, I still did not have a sense that I was 'thinking.' During hyperfocus, my mind only cares about doing, not the experience of doing or what it means. I do not contemplate a thing. I just type words and after reading them know that I had some thoughts. No hyperbole, that's what it is for me.
But I do suspect that everyone else's thoughts are similarly nonlinear. The thing I lack, that they have, is an ability to organize them into a narrative, to make a fully linear presentation of them. Our egos, I think, like to hide the losers in those little dichotomies regardless. They identify more with some parts than others and this leads us to perceive things as being more ordered than they are... as though there is a final sequencing step that smooths it all over on the conscious end. My mind has trouble picking who won and who lost, and even more trouble remembering them. So it's all much more messy in my internal world. But to me that could be just a difference in inner perception more than it is a difference in how the drives ultimately function. I look at regular people, the thought's they express and the ways they act. In some ways they are unarguably more organized, but in no ways are they any more apparently consistent than me in their actual experiencing of things, let alone their accounts. Just ask on a different day and see. Ask later on the same day and see. They are more organized than me with my ADHD, but less irrational and emotionally driven? Ehhh.... mostly just more concise in expressing the ones they recognize in themselves in any given moment. It doesn't strike me as different emotions, or a different overall experience. Just a different ordering of an otherwise very similar mind to mine.
To be totally honest, I'm not entirely convinced consciousness is even something that we willingly control, so much as it is a story our own brain tells itself about processes that run deeper down... like an echo... something more communicable that other minds, with their own tangled webs, can then digest and react to with an echo of their own. I think it's *reasonably* self-evident that we are reactive creatures who often don't obey our own conscious rationality in action. We have all of these things in mind about who and what we are, but when the rubber meets the road and we get out there, it changes us in ways we often don't even realize and we have reactions that we ourselves don't fully understand. It makes me wonder if consciousness is really doing what it says on the tin. It's easy to think of it like the manager of your subconscious staff members, but honestly it could just as easily be a quirk in evolution that just so happened to not kill us, just another regular in that group of 'subconscious actors.' Just the only one that can 'talk.' The thing I question is the sense of awareness, and whether that awareness itself COMES from consciousness, or is merely perceived by it. Is it also the awareness, or just the awareness of the awareness? Take emotions. Are emotions even a product of consciousness at all, or something that's already there, that we can experience through consciousness?
Biologically, such holdovers are more common than you'd expect. We have entire organs we don't need, as do many others. I doubt if we even need it to process information in more complex ways. More like, when you have a creature with a brain suitably complex in processing, the phenomenon will manifest itself. This doesn't mean it's doing anything, or that it has to be there for advanced problem-solving. Just that the way our problem-solving organ develops, manifests the phenomenon somehow, somewhere along the line of following biological imperatives. All of the problem-solving we do could theoretically be done by all of those little voices, without a bigger one to hear it all and relay it in the conscious realm. I think the only loss is the ability to articulate information that itself is still very abstract in that it's packed up in this construct we call language. Constructs seem to be a strictly conscious thing. A mind that doesn't know it's a mind never thinks to form them, right? It doesn't need placeholders for things in an experience it doesn't know it has (or maybe doesn't have at all.)
I wonder what lives in the minds of animals who are seemingly far less communicative, but similarly advanced in terms of smarts. I bet it's very different when you don't have to communicate as many things in as many ways. And yet many animals are startlingly intelligent... and some can't even really think in anything resembling words as far as we know. Yet they solve problems that for us would require conscious reasoning. What if they're as 'smart' as us and just process things so differently that our own minds can't interface with it, can't perceive what's going on, or even backtrace it? I think sometimes we forget how little we know about how minds work, or what they even are in a fundamental, tangible sense.
Or maybe it's more like some kind of psuedo-Hegalean synthesis. Whichever impulses win out decide what your consciousness looks like. Sometimes multiple ones align. Other times they tie and you experience dissonance. Again, are these things we control, or echos of things that have already happened? Is consciousness a distinct thing of its own, or simply the way a complex conglomerate of more primitive elements presents? Where does it actually factor into the whole? I've never quite been able to place it. I mean, if it's the final step in our processing, I can't imagine it actually has much left to do. But it definitely thinks it does everything. Why is that? What's the purpose? To suffer and crave a meaning our own minds can't fully define? The quest for meaning, and the lack, is a major killer. I mean, literally. People die for the sake of meaning, in all sorts of ways. I can't imagine survival odds are improved by becoming depressed when you don't have fun, or someone in your tribe passes. But perhaps it is tied to our eusociality. The mind organization that brings us these pains, allows us a further layer of organization as groups, individual minds like cells in a bigger brain. Safe to say, however that's really done, it has advanced us to wildly different levels than other animals. Agriculture and other technological feats are easier done with an experience-of-experiencing things to communicate and build empathy around, and a mind that forms constructs suitable for complex communication.
I've thought a lot about pros/cons with our consciousness... still can't figure out what the thing's actually for, why we even have a self-reflective subjective experience to begin with. We could survive fine, or even better as automatons. But instead we got these weird, irrational thingies that shadowbox themselves at the tiniest, least important impasses. I mean, I am grateful. But probably only because I am conscious already and now fear losing it, because the experience has become something that matters to me, something I very strongly don't want to see the end of. I don't know why that is either. Kinda just going with it. I do wonder though, if you gave an intelligent creature lacking our consciousness exactly that... would it even want it? Or maybe the better question to ask is... *could* it want it? Could it know want without the sort of consciousness we have? Would it need to in order for the want to be a factor in what it does? And if so, does that change how want factors in? What actually is the difference between having want and knowing that you have want? I wonder if it's even possible to fully distinguish those things while being conscious.
It all sounds bleak, but subjectivity is inescapable due to the very sensory biasing that allows us to so much as see a rock coming at us and dodge it in time. So you can reasonably form a philosophy around the meaning the biases form. Even if consciousness is an echo, it impacts our experience more than anything else. And that experience is the realest thing any of us know. It's not like that stops mattering if things are more deterministic than they seem. If it matters to you, you might as well accept that, as things aren't just going to stop mattering. And when they do you won't be happy. With this sort of determinism the happiness just moves into a slightly newer location. Same game, though.
The one insight that has helped me by looking at the mind more deterministically, was seeing change as a function of input. Meaning, if you grow a different garden, it sprouts a different mind. You cannot directly ask the plants to grow faster/better/different, any more than you can think yourself out of who you are. But the experiences you have will change who you are over time. By cultivating the right experiences for yourself, you can change how you think about your own experiences. A big part of managing ADHD is cultivating surroundings that make you think better. Half of the time I don't know why it even works, and I'm puzzled by why it doesn't matter that I don't know what I did to get the right reaction, if consciousness is doing so much for me. TBH, MY conscious mind mostly breeds confusion. The best, most important choices I've ever made were on intuition.
Ran out of words to tell you I blew youtube's character limit on my comment. Sorry for that. If it's any consolation, it speaks well of you that I would. Most things barely engage me at all. I'm inattentive type ADHD. You did a good job coming up with an interesting observation and my mind was like a dog with a nice big rawhide.
The Buddha figued this out himself after meditating for a really goddamn long time. Called it not-self, was big on pointing out how we're just a big pile of thoughts that only last for a moment each, like a river where every drop of water flows away. His only mistake was that he didn't know that consciousness arises from our brain specifically, so he instead leaned on contemporary ideas about reincarnation.
The upshot is that the more aware you are of that process, the more you realize that there's no "you" anyways, the easier it is to stop yourself from getting pissed at things, and then getting pissed that you're getting pissed at things. You can just grab that train of thought by the neck and tell it to shut up in the first place. Become the conductor directing it all rather than being conducted.
Just when I thought I had my existential crises resolved, I find this. Great, just great.
Same here.
Regardless of what we find, realize, are, become... we’re alright. It’s okay to know, to un-know, repeat.
It doesn't change anything.
Dude be struggling with existential crisis smh. First world problems be like lol
Hahahhhahahahahahababhaba
Consciousness as multiple individual consciousnesses is just one way of looking at it. Listen to the patient, he doesn't feel different. His sense of self is still in tact. Just because you broke something doesn't mean you have a deep understanding of how it works.
All the evidence suggests is that our subconscious and conscious aren't necessarily connected.
I concur. Under normal circumstances the brain is still getting audiovisual parity due to each half still getting an eye and an ear each. They can’t talk to each-other, but there seems to still be one identity the halves maintain. The “cohesive I”has become the “royal I.”
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 The "evidence" is literally just breaking the pathway of info between the 2 hemispheres of the brain and then wondering like mongoloids why the info isnt passing through☠️ its like cutting a cable and then wondering why it doesn't work anymore 😭.
Well, his right brain is now locked away and unable to speak. I’m sure it may disagree with what Joe said, with his left brain.
@JM-lv5fu just FYI, my initial comment was agreeing with you. No sure if I did a good enough job expressing that. I would say we can prove that subconscious and consciousness exists, but that's about it. We can evidence one way of viewing it or another, but until we understand consciousness better, proofs are going to be well put of reach.
Love that you’re insight puts a real exclamation mark in what the advanced mystical and occult teachings have been saying for centuries.
I think the problem is that we tend to see consciousness as this one binary thing that you can switch on or off. In my experience, it’s more like multiple layers that work together. Just now as I’m writing this, there first was the thought. Then I put it into words. And while I put it into words, I don’t really think about how every word is spelled, and I also don’t really think about where I need to move my fingers on my keyboard. I am aware of my fingers moving to the right keys, and I somehow direct them there, but it’s not really a conscious thought. In fact I can write without looking at my keyboard, but If you asked me where a specific key is, then I would take much longer to answer that question than it would take me to just press the right key. Or think about how you learned to drive a car; after some time you automatically did the right things without really thinking about them, but you are still in control. So I think Consciousness is not a switch that can be turned on and off, but rather like a chain of command with one “boss” at the top, that thing we would normally call our Consciousness, but it delegates most simple tasks to weaker, less complex versions of itself, rather than micromanaging everything.
That's perfect
I immediately thought of Bernardo Kastrup, a contemporary philosopher who proposes a consciousness-only ontology. He appeals to well-established psychology and neuroscience to ground his work in reason and empirical evidence, and his model fits perfectly with what you described here. Would suggest anyone interested to look into his philosophy
Absolutely! I had a great conversation with Kastrup a few years ago.
I fascinated by the out of body stories of people whom were in a training centrifuge.
Meh… I’m not convinced.
My mother was diagnosed originally with schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, and then disassociated personality disorder. (I don't recall the exact terms)
She has what she can clearly identify as 9 separate individuals in her mind, she believes she has more, but can clearly identify 9 by name which is wild. Claims they talk to her everyday.
She seems pretty normal, has an IQ of 155 as tested many times over the years, and seems for the most part functions just fine. She said she's just learned to live with these "people talking to her". They sometimes point things out to her, tell her things she's not aware of are happening, argue with her, and she will often respond to them verbally. I asked her once if she could answer them in her head and not verbally, and surprisingly she said she doesn't know, she has always just responded to them verbally like they were there in person
She's a mystery to me, as she is extremely smart and very intuitive, but at times can also seem a little off, also once diagnosed as bi-polar.
It's not like movies, where she start talking in different voices or acting wildly different, she always seems like she's in control and she's herself.
As always felt she would be a great study, as if you sit her crazy ass down you can get her to really start discussing things pretty in-depth with good self awareness of it. She knows it's not normal, so it's not like she's unaware that it's a little crazy.
I played her this video and she ran out her room screaming "stop!!!!!, what is this?" She was very interested in the topic as she's was dying to find any sort of answer to her lived experience. She had never heard of this and I think just the idea of a lot of conscious experiences living in a single person struck a cord with her.
Cool video. Down the rabbit hole I gom
As my mother was dying from covid and lewy body dementia, she began acting completely different, like an entirely different personality had taken her. I could definitely see it in her face, it was terrifying, and she was saying things that only made sense if she was psychic.
I'm a firm believer in the spiritual, now. I've seen how my spirit can be twisted into imagining the worst in everything, and the pain that can be inflicted on a soul, I will always stay kind until I can't anymore.
God bless all the mysteries of life ❤
@@polunusorry for your loss
My mother is also a schizophrenic, I will say something to her then here you talking to herself about what I just said
Fascinating video! Really enjoyed watching this and the way you explained such a hard concept to grasp is incredible.
I always noticed when I look at people's eyes each person has 2 different eyes. It's hard to explain but in every person the left and right look dramatically different and never knew why. This kind of makes sense
Could this be why, after my husband had a stroke and lost sight in one eye, he became consistently laid- back for the first time in his life?
Also, one half of his brain became necrotic, yet he still functions almost as well as he ever did.
I have dissociative identity disorder, and everything this video said about many consciousnesses fighting for control is a perfect description of my everyday life. Luckily though we're all friends, generally being more like a bunch of separate people who are roommates (headmates?) rather than different versions of just one person fighting for control.
Do you?
Doubtful
@@cinemint Yup, I've seen a psychiatrist about it, I have a preliminary diagnosis and am currently in the process of getting a full formal diagnosis
I wouldn't pay too much energy to the cognitive disonance in the chat comments.@@trans_t0luene
So, did "you" type this comment or did the other versions of you. And do they keep updates on things the other "you"s do?
As someone with dissociative identity disorder this video just blew our mind
this is how someone explained DID to me a couple years ago, and it made much more sense. Everyone has multiple parts of themselves, and they merge together when you get older. But for some people who go through major trauma, it doesn’t. And the brain stays disconnected from each other, all be it some overlap.
I just randomed into this vid, but being married to a 5 part system for 22 years, DID was the first thing I thought of.🙂
Best video ever to explain multiple interconnected mini- brains experiencing each other + sensory input = consciousness. 🤯💯
Wow, thank you!
Fascinating, this is like having a computer with the same memory then at some point, the partition splits in half and one side has the pictures and the other one the motor instructions. After a long while without them being connected, the information will vastly differ from one another as it keeps collecting data, so in time it also modifies its "personality". But that means, we don't actually have multiple personalities, the phenomenon just happens if we split the brain in different sections who can't cooperate together anymore.
As a 20 year victim of various Transient Global Amnesia experiences I can attest to the fact that when only one of our normal brain functions is altered or impaired, your concept of “self” is drastically changed
What is it like? How have you had to adapt to that in your everyday life?
I have a form of schizophrenia in where I suffer from sudden bursts of intense emotion completely without context or warning, the current working theory is that I have a " misconection " between the two halves of my brain
@@mks-onefor me It's like having memories but feeling like they're not your own, people you once knew feeling like strangers that you've never met but you still remember them somehow
Let's be real however that having brain injury, psychological disorder doesn't in fact mean anyone has 2 (or more) seperate fully consient beings inside of them fighting for control like this video claims.
People may have a disturbed selse of self and reality. Brain functions may conflict but it is an impairment of one single conscious being.
Only people with 2 full consiousnesses in 1 body are siamese twins.
We should not sensationalize, misinterpret these things further confusing and disturbing vulnerable people.
Let alone affirming the schizophrenic in their delusions, disorder.
Drawing a hammer and describing a handsaw doesn't mean contain are 2 seperate consiousnesses. It shows a disconnect in your brain function.
Just like how cutting off your testicles, penis and dressing like a girl doesn't make you a girl.
@@zteaxon7787Top comment brother
I am an avid lucid dreamer and have dream journals going back to 1991. One thing I have no doubt of, there are multiple regions of the brain working together and coordinating on a nearly imperceptible level because our conscious thought and awareness is the end result of the process and takes place as the aftermath of that coordination. Its like trying to the route you drove to get somewhere that you are already at. In dreams we often interact with dream characters. When lucid dreaming especially, there are some people who stand there like mannequins or just move through the background, some are like generic NPCs in a game, ones you can have a conversation with, and others that will challenge your claims of being the dreamer and accuse you of being in their dream. I believe that most, if not all, dream characters, and most everything else, are individual regions of the brain interacting. That bad dream character will ALWAYS be friendly when you approach and accept it. I also think there are at least 3 distinct layers of consciousness running the show and they can interact in a dream as well although the language can be a bit difficult. I assume that is because 1 or 2 of these seats of consciousness don't have direct access to standard communication. Interesting experiments can be done and there are others out there exploring. Many treat it as spiritual, many as simple firing off of random bits, and some are trying to crack consciousness with lucid dreaming and there are some promising results out there.
When i start altering the dream sometimes dream entities become hostile or despawn and new hostile ones spawn like I wasn't supposed to know and i fight them off and or flee with powers like flight telekinesis speed strength and invulnerability to damage or regeneration but still feel pain and fatigue.
I am hella intrigued by what you've written and now I'm wondering about some stuff!!
So theoretically, if you would google translate a word into a language you don't yet know in a lucid dream and try to remember it - will it show something accurate or just gibberish?
Or let's say you're asking a person to write a random word on a paper, put it in your drawer without looking at it, and in the lucid dream you go to that drawer and look at the word - will it be accurate once you check in reality?
Or when you eat a food you've never tasted? Explore down a road you've seen in reality but never actually took the next corner?
Will any of that work, or will it just be filled up with familiar and unsensible things?
I wanted to learn how to lucid dream years ago, and I tried for a long time and only got one in the end. That was long ago, and I really struggle with dream clarity so I've kinda given up on that. I always wondered if you could communicate with your subconscious in a lucid dream or even go back to relive very old memories like they just happened yesterday - might that be possible?
One mind-changing dream I had.
I was in an office meeting, when I realized I've never had a job where I would be in a meeting like that.
So I started trying to tell them all that it was a dream.
And of course they deny it, acting like I'm crazy.
I kept insisting, to the point that I threatened that I could kill them and it wouldn't matter.
At that point everyone except the person next to me disappeared, and he admitted it was a dream and told me I wouldn't do something like that because I wanted to know what would happen next.
And it was so weird to realize that I didn't know what he would say next, even though I was lucid.
Woke up shortly after.
I have only had one other conversation with that other part of my brain, when I accidentally got super high, and I was panicking, but he was there to assure me things would be ok.
@@thecrimsonfuckeralucard9500 I think that's just a reoccurring nightmare that happens to be about some kind of matrix-like dream world.
You're probably more conscious when it happens, hence why it reoccurs as you begin to recognise and remember the plot developments from last time.
@@elantris-2002 from what ive heard your brain can mimic new experiences in dreams by mashing together things it already has, if you see a new face in a dream it's merely a combination of several faces of people you've seen before.
This effortlessly speaks about my entire experience as a social creature. I'm grateful for you having a point of view.
Yeah, this is pretty obvious during meditation. Love to see the science related to how the brain works and what it means for our sense of self.
I just saw a video of a budhist monk in the cat scan while meditating.....obviously its visible there is much less activity in certain areas
This makes me think that if we want to promote wellbeing in ourselves, it would be necessary to consider and attempt to make adjustments to the external environment in which we live, the people with whom we connect and interact, and even the internal workings of our body (including the multitude of microorganisms that live inside our bodies). If this is in fact our reality we would all benefit from a much more collective approach to societal organization.
You are positively nailing the most important message in my book "The Wedge"
Good vibrations, like kindness and compassion and respect. Have a nice day, even. 🙂 minus the psychedelics, mostly.
@@loricline1692ah, but the psychedelics let us perceive the profound interconnectedness of Nature which the Abrahamic religions taught us to forget (and now we must remember in order to survive as a species).
Collective approach to societal organization.
Such is propaganda, and socialism. We already got it.
Oh shit, another blood bath
Great video. Experiments on human consciousness is always so fascinating. Makes me understand a lot more about how split personality disorder may be working. And also thoughts on why people talk to themselves when in severe isolation. It's like we have multiple people in our brains just trying to make sense of all the information it intakes through sight, touch, taste, smell, and hearing. It's so, so complex.
*"I live in an ecosystem, yet at the same time I AM an ecosystem. And everything together is part of the Great super organism of life itself"*
Well worded and quite the reality check... I wonder if the fact that an ecosystem can create consciousness in us, does that mean there may be a higher consciousness above us that WE are part of?? Just 420 thoughts out loud ... lol
To me it's always been kinda intuitive... when you are dreaming, not all of your brain is awake, so things that you see in the dream that you thought had sense, when you wake up you suddently realize that they didn't make sense at all. You still feel like you both in the dream and outside, but you also notice you change, not just logic, but feelings, emotions, desires. This distinction is stronger around logic for me, i can feel sometimes i want to do something instinctually, an intrusive thought, but suddently the frontal cortex analyzes the situation and makes you change idea. Like when i'm about to fall asleep, then stand up, even if you are awake in both scenarios, your personality changes a bit. Who is you? Is it you that had the intrusive thought?, is it you when you prevented yourself from doing it? No it's both. You are an abstract concept not localized in space or time, combining the results of all the calculations made in your neuronal cells and connections.
As a person who was diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, part of my healing process had been learning to openly communicate with my parts inside, sharing information, and parts of me no longer needing to take credit for the roles we play. Instead, it’s understanding that all of it is me as a whole. And working together with the best parts of all of me to be present as much as possible.
Your analysis hits me pretty hard in the heart. My favorite joke about my disorder is that there is no I in team but six in Dissociative Identity Disorder 😂 joked aside, the truth is that while there is no I in team, the alphabet isn’t complete without an I. Each piece plays a fundamental role and has played fundamental roles in my survival and my continued growth. The reality is, I’m not me without all of my parts.
Now I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like to have my corpus callosum severed or go back to how things used to be. Life would be so different. And I feel like even though I could adapt too, it still would be so hard to miss out on that internal communication. The world would feel so quiet.
Do you have an overly aggressive part thats also very self confident? Like a type 8 in the enneagram, if it helps
I don’t have to comment bc we are all connected on a electrical level! If you went barefooted at any moment in time we are all connected!
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If you think a severed brain would make that worse, try high voltage. It turns out cooked brain matter can result in physical compartmentalization. Long story short, I manage executive decisions, language/wit, and base needs/emotions as three seperate parallel "threads" now. Like you say, attempting to synchronize as one "self" helps greatly, but I still find myself having conflicting impulses.
But the part of you that experiences. Is it one? And all these parts like thought, the body, the senses, can they be said to be tools of your (which can break) or would it be more accutate to say that you, (meaning the I who experince) is just another of the above mentioned things?
Scott, I was going through something rough in my life and this video actually cheered me up. I had a friend pass away and they've been etched into my mind ever since.
I definitely relate to a few of the commenters who have dealt with epilepsy. I sustained a traumatic brain injury some years back. I had a massive seizure after meeting asphalt with my face. I lost all my memories of anything prior to 2019... or 2018. But weirdly, I can recall my memories in a way that feels like verbal history passed down my village elders for decades or centuries. I don't have any visuals, but i can talk about it like a storybook. In a way, i feel like i can relate to the split brain individuals but it's only memory that's affected.
Anyways, thank you for cheering me up and providing insight and theories that definitely gave my brain some food to process.
I have PTSD and my memory recall is exactly the same: I can tell you what happened but nothing other than the barebones facts, maybe some random details but nothing elaborate. So weird how the brain works.
@@eileensnow6153same.
same;!!!! I have a brain injury and it's changed me.
i had a grand mol seizure back in march from benzo withdraw first ever seizure i remember going through horrible withdrawl insomnia in a blink of any eye i was breathing rapidly in pain couldnt catch my breath my back hurt there were 4 nurses above me they told me i just had a seizure.ended up going to the hospital where i found out i fractured my spine. but it was weird like my seizure lasted about 6 minutes. what felt like a blink all that had happened but i cant recall anything other then what i just told you. like where was I for those 6 minutes. i had no thoughts, feelings, awareness no pictures colors no senses it was as if i was gone and didnt exist after i came too my memory was gone. certain life changing events i couldnt remember, i had the years all confused i couldnt remember nothing from 4 months prior couldnt remember my newborns birthday didnt even know i even held her. its some very strange shit man kinda disappointing if thats what its like to not exist and thats what ive always feared and hoped i was wrong.. good luck with you btw wish you a great life
Excellent video.The health mental and physical is tied to how we think of ourselves.
Awesome. Great breakdown for people who have a hard time understanding and accepting these concepts and newer theories of life
Very glad to hear another plug for unity consciousness!! You're a brother from another mother! Looking forward to reading your book and watching more of your videos!
As someone with adhd and dyslexia, I'm used to my brain shaping my personality, especially with dyslexia being very connected to how the brain communitates between different regions... very intresting to think about...
I really enjoyed this video, as I have been a seeker, a quester of deep spiritual understanding since age 11, when I bought Siddhartha, The Rubiyat, and The Prophet. I was captivated by science as a preschooler, and became a Critical Care RN, a Licensed Acupuncturist, a Certified Dynamic Manual Interface Manual Therapy Practitioner, an Esogetic Colorpuncturist, delving deeply into all aspects of the human mind, body, spirit, and emotion, with numerous other studies interspersed throughout my adult life. I have experienced the telescopic views of both within and without, and believe there is no separation, but a mirroring extending in greater and greater detail.
I discovered something I didn’t know in this video about the eyes relating to the sides of the brain. I will definitely be watching further videos, and checking out your book.
I think you are on point in suggesting that consciousness is the 'in-between'. We are so obsessed with looking at micro-mechanisms like the firing of neurons that we tend to lose sight of the overarching resonance body that is our nervous system. I think we would be well off to move this micro-analysis to a macro-perspective where consciousness is not a result of the firing of neural pathways but the music behind it, so to speak.
totally agree. this is the second step of that research
I don't really have unique experiences, but enjoyed listening.
I'm practicing meditation and sometimes trying to be "conscious" of everything I do. It's not easy.
I heard someone saying that we can view ourselves as a bunch of low level lifeforms (bacterias) creating a complex mechanism.
Meditation is great and has definitely helped me a ton. Plus it's interesting to learn how to pay attention to your own thoughts and seems to help identify which thoughts are helpful and which ones are not.
The illusion of consciousness is that of a 'self' that somehow 'has' the consciousness....as if the self was some kind of container. But the reality is that the 'self' comes into and out of existence with consciousness itself, and is identical to it.
Atman, parusha and the gunas