One Piece "Theory 4 Theory" Ft. B.D.A. LAW
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Welcome to Theory 4 Theory! A collab series for the channel where a special guest and I go... theory for theory with ourselves and you in the chat! Join me and special guest @bdalaw for some premium break week One Piece talk on Sunday 07/07/2024 @ 10:30 AM PST/1:30 PM EST.
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Watching this for my second or probably third time. Thinking again on Randy’s discussion on Bonney going Nika mode and how it could be haki related. As well as early on when he mentions Luffy inspiring Bonney as well as potentially others. He, Luffy, is the Warrior of Liberation so it makes sense that could in theory, liberate that part of the spirit. Thanks fellas, always a good listen! 👍🏼
Appreciate the support and thoughts, Oakley! Excited to see what answers, if any, come during Elbaf!
@@RandyTroy Me as well! It’s going to be a fun ride regardless! Best of Luck out there! I can hardly wait for season 2! Thanks to you and everyone that has worked on either season!!!
Love how you guys got the Nika bonney controversy out the way first y’all knew ppl wanted to hear it 😂👏👏
Gotta start strong! It set the tone for the rest of the chat for sure
Great stream foreal there’s no hating on a Randy/Brago collab 🙌
Randy with the "if you would have asked me back in '03 about Gin" put a smile on my face. I remember hating being broke because I couldn't afford to buy homemade bootleg One Piece VHS tapes that went to fund the anime club that introduced me to One Piece back then. Good times. I still like to occasionally go on the Wayback Machine and look at old Kaizoku Fansubs threads.
@dtcharo I used to burn digital disks of the K-F episodes and design elaborate covers for them back then! Good times
This was such a great discussion. I'm glad there are at least 2 other people hoping to see Big Mom on Elbaph
@@thebishna
That idea of Buggy finding the one piece first but letting it go is genius. The man who took credit for everything he didn't do letting go of his greatest achievement, the man obssessed with treasure since the beginning letting go of the ultimate treasure. A one piece theory that takes into account good storytelling, that's how ya do it.
Yeahhh I’m pretty sure each fruit is it’s own fruit. Chopper didn’t know what he ate as a reindeer, but it looks exactly as the human human fruit as documented in the book. It’s another thing to think that the fruits will spawn near people or animals that have a strong desire to have that fruit’s ability
I love how at the beginning of these long streams it looks like Randy is coming online before starting 😂
Acting like he's on that AOL dial up 😂
chilllllllllll lol
Tbh the most plausible explanation for how others go gear 5 is just Bonny turns them into Nika. If she can turn others into their younger or older selves she can for sure turn others into Nika too.
Yeah but the only problem is thats insanly broken/unbalanced unless it’s an awakening ability that earned from decades of training like we see with katakuri doffy and luffy.
@@GroutMobile As Randy said maybe one of the reasons the fruit is so feared because of how it can lead to others going gear 5 too.
4 hours of peak conversation!!! Let’s go ❤🎉
56:34 seeing Luffy and Black beard simultaneously reach their respective goals Finding the One Piece/ dethroning Imu and Becoming king of the world would be cold!
Zoro totally manifested Asura without devil fruit… he literally grew heads and arms and 6 additional swords with haki… some non devil fruit characters early on did some crazy stuff like the noodle guy on the train and miss golden week with the paint… Oda has been planting the seeds all along the path
And the rope dude from galleyLa I think is fruitless as well
My 2 favorite OP RUclipsrs. Great listen while I’m working. Wish I could talk One Piece with you guys. Keep doing what you do! ❤
Ooh a couple of my favs collabing, I love it
“Babe wake up, new discussion from the goats just dropped”
i cant express how excited i am for the back fight live action, its going to be hilarious
WTF YO ITS MY TWO BOYS
Ayyye
I totally have to agree about Luffy's mom being the former empress. What an ironic timeline if the reason the Kuja pirates were targeted was because they were looking for Dragon's kid; thus, making Luffy's birth, existence, is the primary reason that leads Boa Hancock and her sisters into slavery. It's ironic, because she fell in love with the person whose existence is indirectly responsible for leading her to being imprisoned. I wonder if that turns out to be true about Luffy's mom and Boa ever learns about it, does her love for Luffy falter?
Amazing points across the board and exactly the type of connections, stakes, and drama I strike for in the series
@RandyTroy It would be very romanticaly traffic too.
Why did she die when Luffy was 6 though?
@@CelesticCF I go into that in depth in my Luffy's Lineage video!
In all seriousnees thank you both so much. Was having a stressful day at work was able to listen to this and poeer through so kuch work. Appreciate yall both so much. And greag theories!!
@@exitproject
Peak BDA! You and Randy bring the best out of each other!
Always a good time talking with my boy Brago! Thanks for saying that Jeff!
Your creativity knows no bounds. Can't wait to see what you come up with next!
Also I think that with Devil fruited and yonko groups it’s interesting that they have devil fruits with themes the big mom pirates are made of mostly food based fruits and Kaido outside of the smile fruits are mostly zoans. I think that the will of the captain can shape what fruit gravitates towards them.
Oda corrected himself after the interview saying that story ends when Luffy finds the One Piece and clarified it to something like... the exciting lore is over once the one piece is found... can't remember exactly.
Never heard this before would love a citation for it
@@CopingContinuousnah I vaguely remember it being corrected to this. He said that once the one piece is found all the mystery would be unvailed. Sun like that
I really like your devil fruit theory. In terms of the theory about Devil Fruits being limited by imagination, three things I am curious about your take on in the context of this theory.
1. Awakened Zoan fruit users in Impel Down.
2. Smiles.
3. Devil fruits in inanimate objects, like the elephant sword, dog cannon, Smiley. If the devil fruits expression in conscious beings is what they think the fruit does, why would an inanimate object have any notion of what the fruit is supposed to do? Maybe it has something to do with the process and the humans conceptions being put into the object.
This entire stream was fantastic
My guess is Dragon's probably going to have Mary Geoise on the ropes, and Black Beard is going to swoop in and mess that up for everyone.
3 hour podcast time lets gooo
Cooku cooku no mi
i think it makes a lot more sense to learn the ancient history (finding the one piece) before beating the WG cuz then it's so much more meaningful, we would know what we are fighting for and against.
Exactly!
@@RandyTroy tho luffy wouldn't agree with us, so maybe Oda does it in reverse
Assemble! 🎶
Brago wild for those Akainu statements 😂
@@iamlegend2953 facts
@@RandyTroy lmao cause ik you was like “ain’t no way he sayin this rn” in yo head 😭
You’re missing a golden opportunity. Tritoma is the daughter of Rocks and Gloriosa’s child and that’s why the government came after her and captured Boa in the process.
Let’s go been waiting for this collab
Listening to this stream with my heat on feet apron cooking dinner
Ayyye COOK!
This is what legends are made of!!!!
Rocks vs Roger type beat
A character that is long since dead once said that there a 5 flying devil fruits. That maybe was last generation when people were less creative. Everyone wants to fly so now everyone can think that that their fruit helps them adapt to fly. The one piece itself could be creativity. But loved the collab and as always cheese is trash.
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Peak!!
I could see Luffy living like Rayleigh after he becomes Pirate King. We know he can stay at Amazon Lily permanently too
26:33. I gotta have to disagree. In chapter 1, Luffy stretched before he even knew what he ate was a Devil Fruit, let alone the Gum-Gum or the Nika Fruit. But I do agree with the part that each person might use their powers differently. Luffy is a brawler. That's obvious since he was taught by Garp. But what if the person who ate it uses swords or guns? They would be one hell of an opponent to face. How do you fight a swordsman that can reach you from all across town? Or a gunman that can shoot you around the corner without the need to expose their body?
In regards to water being a weakness, again I gotta have to disagree. In all the characters in One Piece Luffy should be the first one to break free from this limitation if that were true. We've seen Luffy fight on even on the verge of death with nothing powering him but his sheer willpower but he has NEVER overcome the weakness of water. If there was even 1% of a chance that he could swim he would've done it long ago. They truly become lethargic when they are submerged. The Gorosei on the other hand are again special cases.
I think of it like this. This is based on Parvision's theory the "Devil Fruits are training wheels to Peak Haki." Tamate pills are to Gear 5 what Devil Fruits are to Haki. And not just haki but just pure skill in general. The Rokushiki techniques are moves that border on being DF-like. If you can use Geppo, then you basically have the Float-Float fruit. Tekkai makes you as hard as iron.
But I get it. This is One Piece. Probably one of the wackiest verses ever. Even if that's the case there are clear rules that MUST be followed. There's a certain level of logic that exists. Not everyone can just do whatever they want whenever they want. By the way you guys are talking it seems like you want the Straw Hats to have unlimited power. I trust that Oda has the restraint and creativity to make things make sense and not just make an incoherent mess where things happen with no rhyme or reason.
1:01:59- maybe patching things up with Yamato by a heroic sacrifice.
This one was a real banger guys.
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There's not enough time to wait for Bonney to grow up to "earn" her Nika form. At this point people should just let it go and accept that she just did it. She's a special character so she gets a pass. On the other hand, I understand the powerscaling side of it. Oda should hold himself back and not just make Bonney the strongest character in existence. If not who's to stop her from just saying "Give me a future where I'm GOD." There will no longer be any stakes if that happens because she would just be an instant win button. Even Gear 5 is not that crazy. I have yet to see Luffy jump in-between panels or like punch the planet in half like Arale from Dragonball. There are still clear limits to his power.
Lmao there’s no walking away or putting down the Croc + SDoffy Two (2)Piece 😮😂❤
Missed with the Yamato stuff
I would want Ussop to wield mjolnir because that ties into the 10 ton hammer and the Ussop hammer from arlong park, the hammer is his mightiest weapon
No basis for this hypothesis (yet); but just maybe the crew gets Uranus (a true Celestial dragon - not the wimpy kind with fish bowls on their head) and after settling the issues on the OP world, they take off into space seeking more adventures…
Maybe the One Piece is just the First Piece! 😳😁
Randy is the luffy of the op Fandom. If I dream It it can come true. The problem is the sea sucks the energy from fruit users. If I was just mental we would have seen jack swimming around
I believe Figarland's sword is an elite blade because of his surname being Figarland and Figg was the name of Odins wife I can see his sword being called Gungnir a spear that never missed its target
1:09:50- We don't need another Demaro Black situation.
my theory been that kidd isnt dead and hes going to end up helping destroy the redline considering he has the magnet fruit
Just an odd thought, maybe the mystery is obvious… Big Mom… Luffy’s Mom! 🤔😂🤣
It could explain Luffy’s inherited appetite and metabolism (factoring in girls like sweets; boys like meats). Maybe Katakuri’s observation lead him to make the realization that Luffy is his little brother! 😳
Wonder what Lin-Lin looked like 20ish years ago and what’s Dragon’s type? Maybe they met after God’s Valley and well… Are there any Charolette kids too close to Luffy’s age? We know most are older, but Pudding and others are younger than Luffy. So it’s biologically possible. 🤔
This thought started as a joke but now I’m actually thinking. 🤣
I cant believe i missed the stream
1. Cross guild is giving “Sinister Six” vibes. I just don’t see law or boa joining but CG is definitely doing something BIG soon
2. Big mom pirates need to find big mom before going for pudding they don’t stand a chance against BB without her
Remember that Luffy has an ulterior motive that we don’t know about. He needs to become Pirate King for a reason. It’s not the end goal
Usopps bounties are not ALWAYS reflections of Luffys. Luffy never had a 200 million berry bounty. He doesnt have to go to 1.5bil next.
You should do a stream with Grand Line Review. Yall look identical and both have wild theories..... but you have better hair
I also think that Buggy may find the One Piece first but instead of him walking away from it because of a growth moment, it will be because the treasure won't have any monetary value. the one piece will be a gag.
What if Leo stitches /ties luffy down?
After Luffy saves the world, he definitely reminds everyone he's not a hero, and he's a pirate, carry's on the adventure and almost eggs them on to keep chasing him... the free-est man in the world needs an adventure!
Like how he saves a town, gives them everything they need, has a party, and then escapes real quick 😂 (but low key everyone smart was expecting that to happen)
I hope oda takes luffy to space looking for the real mysteries the ancient kingdom hadn’t figured out yet, imu/nika are an ancient alien gods and so the crew goes to outer space to find out for them selves, and “one piece shippuden”starts 😎
The straw hats not getting a bounty raise after egghead makes no sense. The world knows he was on Egghead and now they think he killed VP. No bounty raise after just that makes no sense let alone everything else that happened on the island.
I've been leaning blank slate for devil fruits recently. Propaganda book is interesting and would cover Ace and Ope Ope no Mi etc...
Also, I'm late to the party, but it makes me happy with the world maps adorning the volumes to know that Nami achieved her dreams. And maybe that's her map of the past (present)... yknow
Do we ever see Kong do anything?
What is this? Some kind of Nika bargain sale?
It's an episode of Oprah in the 90s!
The iron giant, is just joyboys Amourment haki manifested?
LET ME COOK:
The crew is getting TWO new crew mates:
A cabin girl
A scientist (try telling me the straw hats story doesn’t mirror joyboys crew and don’t tell me joyboy didn’t have a scientist)
Common stream.
Akainu objectively correct at ohara lol
2:54:32 does Randy think Zoro isn't on the ship? Or am I missing something?
@@TheKrigeron until 1120 he wasn't. He was stalling Ethan
@@RandyTroy ah yeah this was before 👍great stream by the way
I don’t think there’s any chance of gear 5 being shared to other people
How does this have so few likes 😮
Great question! Algorithm jail probably
luffy is actually going to take buggy and make him apart of the crew at the back fight, make the right choice unlike last time
Syv has been rubbing off too much on Brago lately. Now he's justifying Akainu killing his own people for ditching the war.😅
Can’t wait till you eat your words about kid
Is brago lit?
I think most people forget or do not actually know what Nika form represent. Nika represent freedom the very thing the WG trying to take away from people and what Nika does is to bring everybody together. Sun God Nika form aint no shit without proficiency in haki Bonney can turn to whatever the fucking future she wants but without proficiency in haki she can't do shit. Bonney turning into a nika form is nothing but a symbolism for freedom because for the very first time she felt free.
You guys have to remember Luffy is the main protagonist here, Oda would never let someone out-shine Luffy especially now we are heading to the end game if there is someone that Oda might portrays better than Luffy it would be Shanks.
1. I believe Hanafuda might be in Cross Guild
2. given Hanafuda's alias of King of Lizards I believe he ate the Ryu-Ryu no mi model T-Rex
3. I believe Empress Tritoma has a child its not Luffy but Vice-Admiral Doll and her father is Blackbeard Pirate Kuzan
4. Hanafuda if not Page 1 and Ulti's dad could be their uncle as we did see siblings captain a pirate crew in the form of Ace's opponent the Decavlan Brothers.
5. Hanafuda might be if not in the Cross Guild their version of Queen
Is it Just me that Brago doesn't seems to be a deep theorists !?
Kid as a character is scum,
But kid comin back and helping the strawhats is worse than scum.
So two dudes talking what-ifs they WANT to come true and just not letting go of the thing they would have like happening that may or may not happen in the story for 2-3 hours. , the rest of the series is of Theory 4 Theory is like this, I think oda is just through the story with no deep meaning at all, just getting to the points he thinks should be introduced, not be Legitimately shown well or not just shown.
2:01:47 too answer the question what luffy Would do if he doesn’t die I think I have an answer.
Ever since the empty throne was revealed with Imu and Vivi was revealed to be a member of the D clan with Cobra asking Sabo to tell Luffy and Vivi they both the share the initial D.
I always thought luffy would end up as the king of the World with all his allies and Vivi supporting him this is kinda reinforced if Blackbeards true aim is to take the empty throne and become ruler of the world and luffy stops him they would need a new ruler to fix all the problems the world nobles and Blackbeard caused.
I believe luffy will become pirate king first then after saving the world all his friends and allies ask luffy and Vivi to rule and change the world government where all the races and humans live together.
It’s been hinted at by multiple peoples dreams
Big mom wants to create a place for all races
Dragon wants to get rid of the celestial dragons Not The government as a whole.
Jimbei wants to end the hatred of fishman and humans and end slavery.
Luffy would accomplish all of those intentionally or unintentionally just because he cares about his friends
I truly believe luffy will become the ruler of the empty throne and king of the world with vivi at the end.
Respectfully, that Usopp being Nika theory is a no for me. I’m sorry. I just don’t believe in it at all
Do you guys think that Yamato can be as strong as her father? She just needs training?
Is Bragg still crying over taking a panel out of context?
Brago repeatedly using she/her pronouns for Yamato is so gross. Can’t believe so many still doing this. Glad Randy’s sticking with not using the wrong pronouns for Yamato
because she is a she. continue to reeeeeee while normal people literally dont care what you think.
Who the fuck care mate
smh, she’s a woman
I love how he throws his bleeding heart white liberal BS in there