Chuck Quarles - Jesus: Lord of All - Colossians
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2019
- Chuck Quarles, Charles Page Chair of Biblical Theology, preaches on Colossians 1:15-20 and passionately proclaims that the central confession of true Christianity is that Jesus is fully God and fully man.
Understanding more clearly what "First born" means in Jewish history and social order. Better now do I embrace that Jesus is TRUE MAN and TRUE GOD. I can see where some replies here need to go back and hear this message again. Thank you Bro. Chuck for this message!
Always enjoy hearing Dr. Chuck Quarles preach. Thank you. First time I recall hearing this testimony of your salvation experience. Appreciate your faithfulness to King Jesus!
Chuck, thank you for your well-thought-out reply. It has really helped me understand where you are coming from. Thanks again. PTLA
Yes, Jesus is YHWH ELOHIM, the Eternal God of all creation! Thank you Chuck for your faithfulness to proclaim the true gospel of Jesus Christ!
I have accept that Jesus Christ is the only Begotten Son of father GOD. I have accepted that Jesus Christ is Almighty God as evidence by Colossians 1:16-17. But in Revelation 5:1-14 it appears that Jesus Christ who is the Lamb of God who takes the book out of the one who sits on the throne.
@@victorstrong7378 Yes, in that passage the Father is the one sitting on the throne. Do you have a problem or question about that?
@@dasdrei5059Well then it shows a distinction between Almighty Most High Father God-YHWH and Jesus Christ-the Lamb of God/Only Begotten Son of God. It would be confusing to conceive that if JESUS IS YHWH, that he would take the book out of his own hands as he sat on the throne in REvelation 5:1-14.
@@victorstrong7378 No, it’s not confusing if you understand how YHWH has revealed Himself in Scripture. YHWH is unlike His creation of mankind, in the sense of His complexity of Personhood.
Yes, Jesus is distinct from the Father in His Personhood, but exactly the same as the Father in His character, Divine nature, and Being. Created human beings are simple and singular in our personhood, YHWH is complex. We differ with God in that aspect of our being. This is what the scriptures reveal and exactly what Jesus revealed about God.
Mr.Quarles said that the deity of Christ is the essential claim of the Christian faith. Not sure what bible he reads. The essential claim of Christianity is not that Jesus is deity, but that He is the long awaited prophesied Messiah and King of Israel, and he was crucified for making those very claims. Jesus is also the one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. Certainly, childlike logic dictates that if Jesus is being described in Colossians 1 as the IMAGE of the invisible God then he is NOT God! If you look in a mirror, the image in the mirror is not the person! It is an image. With all due respect, how did he miss that? In Colossians the question he so sorely misses is was Paul giving a commentary on the first creation? or speaking of the new creation? If Paul was speaking of the first creation, then what was revealed about the first creation in the old testament was not the truth and this would make God a liar.
Jesus is the first angel created by the father
Actually no, Jesus is the Eternal God YHWH. Nowhere in scripture does is say Jesus was “created”, nor ever an “angel”. It actually says just the opposite over and over. You have been deceived by cultish “doctrines of demons”, and I pray that you would repent and believe the gospel and receive eternal life.
@@dasdrei5059 Jesus will never in a million years be God.
@@archangeljesus4369 You will find out very soon.
“It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Hebrews 10:31
@@dasdrei5059 YHWH is my God not that mere angel Jesus.
@@archangeljesus4369 You have NO idea who YHWH is. You are in the same situation the religious Pharisees of Jesus’s day were.
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and sin.”
Matthew 23:27-28
Paul knew exactly what he was taking about in Col 1:15. Jesus the Firstborn of all creation. He even knew what the word preeminence meant as is evidenced by Col 1:18 where he actually uses word the preeminence. Paul is not saying Jesus has preeminence therefore God says he is the Firstborn of all creation. No! Paul said he is the Firstborn of All Creation therefore he has preeminence. Firstborn means firstborn in all cases throughout the Bible, and each has been appropriately placed within its context and should be reviewed within its context. The secret to Col 1:15 is about the belly button. Jesus had a mother. Adam did not. Stay with me.
The first Adam did not have a belly button, but he did have life. Genesis 2:7-8 And God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life/blood and man became a living soul. And God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Leviticus 17:11For the life (God’s Life) of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.
As we can see the first Adam was created and not born,thus no belly button.
The last Adam. (Jesus Christ)
God placed his blood/ seed into Mary/mankind (virgin birth).
Acts 20;28 Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He (God) purchased with His own blood.
Creation/Mankind after the fall of Adam/Creation.
Everyone after the fall of mankind/first Adam were born into sin. We were of our father the devil. This is why we needed a new life/new Father.
For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “ Abba! Father!”
Romans 8:15
(We were dying as our blood/life was tainted by sin and we were no longer part of the living/God’s creation/life.) My words not the Bible.
”God did not create the fall of man. Nor did God create the results thereof. The fall of man was not part of the six day creation.
1John 3:8-10 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who has been born of God practices sin, because His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin continually, because he has been born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother and sister.
So with that said Jesus was the first person of all creation who was born alive unto God, since the creation of the first Adam. Jesus was the only person to be Born without sin in his life/blood after the fall of Adam. Thus Jesus had a belly button as he was born of mankind/virgin birth after the fall of Adam. Jesus was the Firstborn of all creation. A new creation.
Gal 6:15 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
Both the first Adam and the last Adam we're of the unblemished blood/life from God. Follow the blood.
Thank you.Enjoy the Word.
You have absolutely been deceived by “doctrines of demons”. Jesus is YHWH ELOHIM.
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Colossians seems to be another comparison of Adam vs Jesus
Old creation can New creation
Old creation
Adam was the image of God
Adam was the firstborn
Adam was given authority to rule over the old creation
Adam disobeyed
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New creation
The risen Jesus is the image of God
He is the firstborn from the dead
He is given all authority
Jesus obeyed
It’s talking about an authority structure
Thrones principalities powers
Not “trees birds and mountains”
The context is also the RISEN Jesus
Not Jesus before his exaltation
Jesus can’t be the firstborn from the dead before he died?
Also God can’t be the firstborn from the dead, God can’t die
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Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead
Jesus will return and rule the nations with believers in the kingdom of God on the earth
Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
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Acts 3
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him.
14 But ye denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted unto you,
15 and killed the Prince of life; whom God raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
You are deceived. Jesus is YHWH ELOHIM.
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That’s not true
Jesus is not YHVH if YHVH is his God
Micah 5:4
And he shall stand and feed his flock in the strength of the LORD,
in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God.
And they shall dwell secure, for now he shall be great
to the ends of the earth.
@@mitchellc4 Jesus is God who took on human nature at the incarnation.
“Have this same attitude in yourselves which was in Christ Jesus [look to Him as your example in selfless humility], who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes-the entire nature of deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it]; but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man]. After He was found in [terms of His] outward appearance as a man [for a divinely-appointed time], He humbled Himself [still further] by becoming obedient [to the Father] to the point of death, even death on a cross.”
Philippians 2:5-8
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Philippians 2 is may be a comparison with Adam
Modern scholars acknowledge this
Adam was in the image of God
Instead of humbling himself
He grasped at equality with God by eating the fruit (you will be like God!)
Because of this he was kicked out of the garden and died
Jesus was in the image of God
Instead of grasping at equality with God he humbled himself as a servant
And obeyed all the way to the point of death
Because of this God has highly exalted him
This is from the University of St. Thomas:
“A second group of biblical scholars argues that in Phil 2:6-11 Paul (or whoever authored the hymn) was not describing a pre-existent, divine being but rather the earthly Jesus of Nazareth. These scholars generally interpret the periscope as exhibiting a "Second Adam" Christology. According to this Christology, the earthly Jesus described in the hymn did not have equality with God. Christ made a choice - unlike the Adam of Genesis - not to grasp at equality with God, but to be obedient to God by accepting death.”
There are many more scholars who will say this doesn’t say anything about a pre existing person transforming into a human
Who is Jesus’s God?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Rev 1
6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 3
12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
John 20
17 Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
Jesus has a God
@@mitchellc4 You have no idea who Jesus is. The scriptures say He is YHWH ELOHIM over and over...
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From ETERNITY.
Micah 5:2
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:1,10,14
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then they took up stones to throw at Him.....I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
John 8:56-59,10:30-33
But although Jesus had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke: “Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again: “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with their eyes, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.” These things Isaiah said when he saw His(Jesus) (YHWH) glory and spoke of Him(Jesus)(YHWH).
John 12:37-41
Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
John 20:27-29
looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:13
But to the Son(Jesus) He(the Father) says: “Your throne, O God(Elohim) is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” And: “You, LORD(YHWH)( Jesus), in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the LORD(Jesus), “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,”......Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, And when I saw Him(Jesus), I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
Revelation 1:8,11-12,17-18,2:8
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:12-13,16