Kamil Jablonski vs Tobias Sporrong East vs West 12

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  • @JukkaPalme100
    @JukkaPalme100 Месяц назад +386

    This is a bad joke. Kamiya starts from the go with a 100% shoulder press. How is that fair? Worst refereeing ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @brokenarm6575
      @brokenarm6575 Месяц назад +12

      please look kamil vs devon and than tell where you see more the early start

    • @MikeB-fu1df
      @MikeB-fu1df Месяц назад +10

      You said exactly what I came here to say. All Kamil had to do was fall down with his weight at the go. No way in hell he should have gotten to start that far forward. Not sure why Tobias wasn't complaining.

    • @Powergodz
      @Powergodz Месяц назад +2

      @@MikeB-fu1df i would say he wasn complaining cause that looks like its the rulebase cause they didn´t call that

    • @UncleTermite
      @UncleTermite Месяц назад

      He was actually pinned once doing that he won when he started square ,you got look closer bc the angle change is very fast on go .

    • @Niboh
      @Niboh Месяц назад +1

      This modality needs a VAR..

  • @Dizzle72
    @Dizzle72 Месяц назад +429

    Worst refereeing I’ve seen. Kamiya shoulder was way inside.

    • @SauronKarratt
      @SauronKarratt Месяц назад +25

      that's good, because it's the same way Larratt defeated Cadorette in WAL, with his shoulder 2 meters forward

    • @mansik4545
      @mansik4545 Месяц назад +25

      ​@@SauronKarrattThis is not WAL

    • @SauronKarratt
      @SauronKarratt Месяц назад +22

      @@mansik4545 this is SPARTA!!!

    • @user-kt9gkkdkdkd
      @user-kt9gkkdkdkd Месяц назад +5

      Win = win 🤷
      it's called armwrestling

    • @jerrodtham
      @jerrodtham Месяц назад +7

      True. Well spotted. That’s why Larratt needs his wife to shout for fouls.

  • @gaming_x08
    @gaming_x08 Месяц назад +71

    10:17 this is the 'ONLY' time when kamil's shoulders were perfectly squared and he lost that round

    • @gaming_x08
      @gaming_x08 Месяц назад +9

      you gotta do something with kamil's shoulder man otherwise he'll rip everyone apart except alizhan

    • @SkinShowcase-zm3rs
      @SkinShowcase-zm3rs Месяц назад +2

      @@gaming_x08 I know him from Poland. He has to much EGO, hope ref will change his start position soon....

  • @LagiaArm
    @LagiaArm Месяц назад +157

    27:29
    This is... not a fair starting position

    • @GiorgiGersamia.
      @GiorgiGersamia. Месяц назад +4

      WTF was that

    • @Juxtax6802
      @Juxtax6802 Месяц назад +3

      What is the rule on that? Isn’t it legal as long as his shoulder not crossing or on the center?

    • @Juxtax6802
      @Juxtax6802 Месяц назад

      @@TheIvan434 can you elaborate more on the shoulder square i can’t find any details or video and thanks for explaining.

    • @UweEatsWorld
      @UweEatsWorld Месяц назад +3

      27:27 and put the speed on 0,25 or 0,5 !This is just disgusting . Even worse than full blown kings move 😅

    • @simongiguere2390
      @simongiguere2390 Месяц назад

      both ?

  • @gabrieltan8267
    @gabrieltan8267 Месяц назад +238

    I don’t understand why the Refs let kamil’s shoulder be set even before the GO….. Smh

    • @middle-agedclimber
      @middle-agedclimber Месяц назад +15

      The refs are not complaining, commentators are not complaining, yet you - a random viewer - know better.😂 It was a great match showcasing 2 opposites.

    • @SergiuNw
      @SergiuNw Месяц назад +41

      @@middle-agedclimber I think the whole comment section is complaining, buddy, wake up..

    • @middle-agedclimber
      @middle-agedclimber Месяц назад +3

      @@SergiuNw read my comment again, I dgaf about random comments when the people in the know are not saying a thing. How was Tobias not complaining then? He should be the first one. Complain about sitting on your ass with whole body below the table like some do. That looks f..g ridiculous.

    • @armwrestle6331
      @armwrestle6331 Месяц назад +1

      When he pull devon,his shoulder ready into press position,😅

    • @seekthe9
      @seekthe9 Месяц назад +2

      @@middle-agedclimber this logic makes no sense. Why would the commentators bring light to something that might make the organization that pays them look bad? Tobias is ALWAYS the type to focus on what HE is doing, not his opponent, and that is to his detriment- he should have complained

  • @benn3819
    @benn3819 Месяц назад +199

    Kamil starting already with flop wrist ist not fair, the wrist has to be strait at the start.

    • @tanmaydubey5012
      @tanmaydubey5012 Месяц назад +19

      He's a one trick pony, and that trick being getting into a false-start shoulder press position, that's how he beat Dave Chaffe, and the fact that refereeing in that match also was terrible.

    • @ruslan7782
      @ruslan7782 Месяц назад +11

      It's allow to bend your wrist back. IT should not be curled tho

    • @benn3819
      @benn3819 Месяц назад +14

      @@ruslan7782It's not allowed, the wrist has to be strait at the start.

    • @tagsan3834
      @tagsan3834 Месяц назад +9

      ​@@benn3819 no, the wrist CANNOT be cupped, but it CAN be flopped

    • @Lindaaa99
      @Lindaaa99 Месяц назад +9

      @@tagsan3834 That is just not true. The wrist has to be strait not cupped or flopped, both is against the rules.

  • @Guresz
    @Guresz Месяц назад +187

    Poor Tobias was robbed. Incompetent referee. 😡

    • @jonasf4065
      @jonasf4065 Месяц назад

      another coper. Translation of this gibberish = whaaaaaaaaa

  • @NeilAC78
    @NeilAC78 Месяц назад +67

    The shoulder needs to be square. This guy was starting half way across the table.

  • @lukeduke3738
    @lukeduke3738 Месяц назад +88

    That shoulder already so committed…

  • @shkotayd9749
    @shkotayd9749 Месяц назад +115

    Reffing wasnt clean here at all. They literally let Jablonski put his shoulder right forward and get his upper arm behind his lower arm.
    He was already set to to press immediately. Sporrong was already at start at a huge disadvantage.

  • @AlexQQable
    @AlexQQable Месяц назад +115

    Это позор, судейство вообще похер на то что Камил вставляет плечо, какой же бред

    • @elhungirat
      @elhungirat Месяц назад +15

      Не только плечо но и кисть у него уже заранее согнутая для борьбы в трицепс судейство на мыло

    • @Will-Ch
      @Will-Ch Месяц назад

      ABSOLUTLY

    • @user-dx6xp2uv6j
      @user-dx6xp2uv6j Месяц назад +9

      Грязная борьба, судейство ноль

    • @justhuman1681
      @justhuman1681 Месяц назад +1

      Спасибо, я не особо шарю, теперь понятно что меня смутило, я еще подумал "а что так можно?"

    • @bekmirzatursunboyev5705
      @bekmirzatursunboyev5705 Месяц назад

      Nogami toje jablonski

  • @user-yt7tf7rs6f
    @user-yt7tf7rs6f Месяц назад +41

    After this there will be less complaints about Sagov setup, because Kamil's is even more ridiculous

  • @Ferdilly2220
    @Ferdilly2220 Месяц назад +49

    Jerry cadoret Jr.

  • @dustin502p
    @dustin502p Месяц назад +21

    Let’s let low hand top roll guys start in a low hand top roll. Like what in the world is this set up man he is already set up in a press horrible look for a fair match

  • @emax5264
    @emax5264 Месяц назад +33

    Outragous the position they let Kamil start!

    • @jonasf4065
      @jonasf4065 Месяц назад

      another coper. Translation of this gibberish = whaaaaaaaaa

  • @owiyn6604
    @owiyn6604 Месяц назад +34

    10:01 Jamil got left hanging

  • @MT_ArmWrestling
    @MT_ArmWrestling Месяц назад +18

    14:40 who the hell will square up the shoulders ?

  • @wideman8942
    @wideman8942 Месяц назад +43

    Kamil= brock Lesnar+ schoolboy..a hybrid

  • @ithought_so6438
    @ithought_so6438 Месяц назад +12

    We need jerry Caddorette and Jablonski to battle it out now.

  • @callisto537
    @callisto537 Месяц назад +22

    Are you kidding me!?!?!???!? Kamil shoulder is in Tobias jaw already before go lol

    • @jonasf4065
      @jonasf4065 Месяц назад

      another coper. Translation of this gibberish = whaaaaaaaaa

  • @xdoomcannonx
    @xdoomcannonx Месяц назад +4

    Travis cant say anyone's name right. He called my guy sporelong....LOL

  • @mariuszh9230
    @mariuszh9230 Месяц назад +13

    No nareszcie ile można czekać Panie Engin . Dziękuję za możliwość obejrzenia .

  • @smokeykick
    @smokeykick 16 дней назад +2

    Wow, love this match!🤩 Thanks to these 2 arm wrestlers and thank you Engin!👍

  • @tojizenin7574
    @tojizenin7574 Месяц назад +18

    wtf is this match. the reff need to recheck both shoulder

  • @unknownsinger5433
    @unknownsinger5433 Месяц назад +7

    I hope engin is readi g the comments

  • @irvingdelahoz9390
    @irvingdelahoz9390 Месяц назад +7

    Travis himself said Kamil will start at the pin pad lmaaaao

  • @MiSTeRJoKe96
    @MiSTeRJoKe96 Месяц назад +5

    @Engin, did you agree with the refereeing? I would like to know your opinion

  • @user-te6zu4qm6q
    @user-te6zu4qm6q Месяц назад +33

    Яблонски все время нарушал правила...судей на мыло

  • @unknownsinger5433
    @unknownsinger5433 Месяц назад +6

    What is the purpose of touching their shoulder if it is not going back?

    • @eddys9311
      @eddys9311 Месяц назад

      It's called incompetent ref

  • @darkarpit
    @darkarpit Месяц назад +5

    what type of armwrestling is this, even before the start his frame is already behind his hand

    • @armwrestle6331
      @armwrestle6331 Месяц назад

      That happen when he pull devon,his shoulder and elbow ready to flop press😂

  • @iamfiqi
    @iamfiqi Месяц назад +4

    Kamil need to test a flop press of jerry cadorrette

  • @Kisami31
    @Kisami31 Месяц назад +14

    Why the handshake disrespect at 10:02 ?

    • @vildjuret6591
      @vildjuret6591 Месяц назад +8

      Probably didn't see it.

    • @LagiaArm
      @LagiaArm Месяц назад

      Super a lot

    • @Kisami31
      @Kisami31 Месяц назад

      I'm not really sure, looks to me like he just shrugged it of, since Kamil lifted his arm pretty close to Tobias, but hell, maybe he really just didn't see it :')

    • @preslaviliev6843
      @preslaviliev6843 Месяц назад +1

      @@LagiaArm he looked at him and skipped on purpose , since he was winning then . Went to Kamil when he lost.

    • @LagiaArm
      @LagiaArm Месяц назад +2

      ​@@preslaviliev6843
      Lmao it really does look like it actually...

  • @toddwyndham7009
    @toddwyndham7009 Месяц назад

    By the way I want to thank you Mr. Engin for all you do for this sport. I’ve recently become hooked and seeing how you’re involved and the work you do is amazing.

  • @IK99999
    @IK99999 Месяц назад +20

    Square Kamil up and straighten his wrist! 😂

  • @Carefaceeeee
    @Carefaceeeee Месяц назад +2

    Welcome Kamil ,such force. Great job from my swe brother too ,great mach

  • @joyesh950
    @joyesh950 Месяц назад +2

    Not a fair match for Tobias.. Kamil do this shit evertime

  • @ChrisJones-vt2rz
    @ChrisJones-vt2rz Месяц назад +7

    Having a match this close when your DEFINITELY getting the better positioning everytime is wild let’s go Tobias

  • @GoldStarCoffee
    @GoldStarCoffee Месяц назад +1

    Very close match. Incredible. 💯

  • @MaSQaraD-ws6dm
    @MaSQaraD-ws6dm 26 дней назад +2

    Если бы они Яблонскому выравнивали кисть, не давали её проваливать на старте, то у него бы и не было возможности так заряжать плечо на старте. Судья должен следить чтобы кисть была ровная - ни согнутая, ни разогнутая. А то следят за сгибанием и не обращают внимания на разгибание.

  • @lemuelboko6560
    @lemuelboko6560 Месяц назад +1

    Kamill vs jerry would be hilarious 🤣

  • @balabakau
    @balabakau Месяц назад +1

    Didnt skip anything cause we have 2 comentator that really knows their stuff

    • @Larrypint
      @Larrypint Месяц назад

      both overacting with typical American showevent voices which sounds fake.

  • @bitrage.
    @bitrage. 11 дней назад +1

    Blows my mind how the ppl watching the matchs, and not his opposition, refs, different organizations are the ones complaining... Jerry has a similar style, like just because yall dont understand it dont mean its "cheating", Even devon lost on left hand and didn't say Kamil was cheating or bs.... Not only is it disrespectful to Kamil but also disrespectful to the refs, event holders, competitors...

  • @badcid1362
    @badcid1362 Месяц назад

    T y Engin starting every new day with east vs west keep them rolling

  • @user-mb2cv2js5m
    @user-mb2cv2js5m Месяц назад

    I am your so big fan please tell me that which 5 main exercise i shoul do to become best 😢😢😢😢😢anyone else can also tell me

  • @argeurasia
    @argeurasia 19 дней назад +1

    The humerus of Jablonski is vertical when he starts...what happened with the shoulders square rule?

  • @florkiler6242
    @florkiler6242 Месяц назад +5

    so proud of my fellow Polander! not only achieving such greate hights and a big win in arm wrestling and lots of prize
    but he even SOMEHOW he managed to learn ENGLISH and believe me I know how hard that can be

    • @bendybruce
      @bendybruce Месяц назад

      I have to agree. Always impressed when guys can speak English as their second language. I wish I could speak two languages.. Well I can speak pretty good bs when I set my mind to it :)

  • @samjay1256
    @samjay1256 Месяц назад +1

    What a great match!

  • @PawelJablonski
    @PawelJablonski Месяц назад +2

    Kamil 🔥

  • @alex-wv7co
    @alex-wv7co Месяц назад +1

    Quel match !!! Un régal !

  • @official_remzz5844
    @official_remzz5844 Месяц назад +2

    Tobias can easily speed Kamil with a fair start

  • @alchmag1297
    @alchmag1297 12 дней назад

    Kamils press is incredible, I don’t understand why everyone keeps trying to top roll him, only a low hook close to the wrist will work. Ermes did it to Jerry. You can’t let a flop pressers wrist get under your hand.

  • @josephbach1
    @josephbach1 Месяц назад +1

    I guess since jerry retired i am now cheering for kamil I love the flop press.

  • @diegorodriguez8910
    @diegorodriguez8910 24 дня назад +1

    Kamil is the poland Jerry Cadorette

  • @user-tf3hb2wb6m
    @user-tf3hb2wb6m Месяц назад +1

    Exelent match😊

  • @lemuelboko6560
    @lemuelboko6560 Месяц назад +1

    Guys JERRY VS KAMILLLL

  • @ds.winner6319
    @ds.winner6319 27 дней назад +1

    Kamil, look at yourself from the outside in this video! And then read the comments!

  • @armwrestle6331
    @armwrestle6331 Месяц назад +1

    That happen when he pull devon,his shoulder almost ready to flop press from starting..😅

  • @velko2433
    @velko2433 Месяц назад +1

    Mr.Bagent -" ... listen ... "

  • @jacobsmith4753
    @jacobsmith4753 21 день назад +1

    This is so stupid. How can kamil be given so much inside shoulder movement and help him setup for a press time and time again. This isn’t a win at all.

  • @fishingthesoutheast5404
    @fishingthesoutheast5404 19 дней назад +1

    Kamil was able to set up preloaded for the press...same way he did with devon larrat. Bad refing

  • @iitzinsane4565
    @iitzinsane4565 29 дней назад +1

    Tobias was robbed. Kamil had his shoulder in ready for the press every time. horrible job from the referees.

  • @GiorgiGersamia.
    @GiorgiGersamia. Месяц назад +2

    Kamil starting for flop wrist , come on how can you miss that

  • @kolnidur_
    @kolnidur_ Месяц назад +1

    22:30 insane from Tobias

  • @user-ig6eu6um4t
    @user-ig6eu6um4t Месяц назад +1

    Os caras são muito forte

  • @thedrew24
    @thedrew24 27 дней назад +1

    RUclips algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... i think people don't understand about how the shoulders are squared up, u can be squared up AND leaning to one side same time, that's ok. and then u look at 15:10 where they are both have their left shoulder twisted in, at the same time too, so maybe that makes it equal? seems like it's maybe an issue that should be clarified? and if something isn't being enforced, then that should be addressed as well.
    otherwise a very close match!

  • @LionPrideArmwrestling
    @LionPrideArmwrestling Месяц назад +1

    26:02 Neil we love You!

  • @Ha6JLIoDYH
    @Ha6JLIoDYH Месяц назад +1

    Еблански посильнее оказался и связки более мощьные.

  • @frederico9288
    @frederico9288 Месяц назад +1

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @toddwyndham7009
    @toddwyndham7009 Месяц назад +1

    Wow that Joblonski is way way over the middle of the table how can that be legal according to the rules??

  • @allurisiddarth1481
    @allurisiddarth1481 Месяц назад

    This is by far the best setup i ever seen...give this referees a rise

  • @jonyleproso90
    @jonyleproso90 Месяц назад

    I can see everybody agrees about Kamil unsquare shoulder. Tobias diserves an apology

  • @TetragrammatonMan
    @TetragrammatonMan 25 дней назад +1

    Square jablonski up! These refs are scared of him or something. Can’t start coiled in like that

  • @minhhale
    @minhhale Месяц назад +12

    While there are legitimate issues with Kamil getting an unfair start, it is hard to deny his side pressure power. He pinned Tobias out of strap, and at 22:32 we can see Tobias struggling hard to get out of Kamil side pressure. This dude is no joke, he is a threat to any outside pullers.

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin Месяц назад +9

      He’s in a straight up flop wrist press hrrr what are you talking about

    • @NeilAC78
      @NeilAC78 Месяц назад +5

      What do you mean 'side pressure'? He's using his body weight as a leverage advantage before the match even starts.

    • @minhhale
      @minhhale Месяц назад

      ​@@NeilAC78 It was side pressure that keeps Kamil's hand inside his shoulder. Without immense side pressure , Tobias would have ripped Kamil's hand open from his shoulder.

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin Месяц назад

      @@minhhale weirdo

  • @user-it6ug4ex3z
    @user-it6ug4ex3z Месяц назад

    If the referees didn't see the wrist or shoulder, it's not on the wrestler

  • @robertlukaszek2576
    @robertlukaszek2576 15 дней назад +1

    Brawo Kamil

  • @SauronKarratt
    @SauronKarratt Месяц назад +9

    The new Jerry Dadorette 🎉

  • @user-fw5ks5hy3y
    @user-fw5ks5hy3y Месяц назад +1

    💪💪💪💪

  • @Seeker7
    @Seeker7 Месяц назад

    Scoreboard was not updated same time so it was bit confusing

  • @piotrgwizdala5338
    @piotrgwizdala5338 16 дней назад +1

    Polska górą 👍💪

  • @ServenRiantoResantika
    @ServenRiantoResantika Месяц назад +1

    Engin better hire better referees and implement VAR, because this is unacceptable. This makes the sport ugly

  • @sakteapachuau
    @sakteapachuau Месяц назад

    I would like to see this guy with alizhan it will be interesting match

  • @MuhammadAliAbdulQayum
    @MuhammadAliAbdulQayum Месяц назад

    Referees just need to be told they have the final say in the set up, and not get intimidated by the arm wrestlers. But everyone going to take as much as they can.

  • @Buzz1756
    @Buzz1756 Месяц назад +1

    Everyone knows what kamil is going to do. All it takes is a good hook press to stop him. Ivan did it absolutely perfectly. If you top roll a flop wrist presser, you’re pulling right into his power. Of course Tobias lost this match because he’s a top roller. Muratov and Morozov would destroy kamil because they can actually hook. It’s not a secret. Everyone knows what’s coming 😂

  • @Raubgraeber
    @Raubgraeber Месяц назад +1

    looks like father and son.

  • @MrBadbaron
    @MrBadbaron Месяц назад

    These events needs to sharpen their rule sets. Thats ridiculous 🫤

  • @Seeker7
    @Seeker7 22 дня назад

    The good for his match with Vitaly is that Kamil doesn't need to slip it will be Vitaly wanting to slip!

    • @Foraster96
      @Foraster96 16 дней назад

      If the judges are just as stupid and incompetent, then Vitali has more chances than Tobias, but still not enough. This "armwrestler" puts all his weight on his arm before the start. And the referee just pokes me in the shoulder, but it doesn't change anything.

    • @Seeker7
      @Seeker7 16 дней назад

      @@Foraster96 you can go and check the latest live of voice of Armwrestling with kamil there he has said that if you look from the top it looks square and his shoulders are already big so being in a tilted position it looks he has engaged his shoulder but it's actually not!

  • @jurajura9858
    @jurajura9858 Месяц назад

    Very good for Tobias Sporrong

  • @damnbadger8242
    @damnbadger8242 Месяц назад

    The 'young man' Travis Bagent himself should be competing here, but okay, I dig his commenting..

  • @samakshuppal
    @samakshuppal Месяц назад

    There should be clear rules laid for inside pullers, especially with their shoulder and tricep press. Nonetheless, Tobias did give Kamil a good run for his money 💰💯
    Calling out Vitaly at this point might be a tall order for Kamil as he ran over Tobias with ease 💪
    Rooting for Vitaly in that matchup

  • @Zaratustra-V
    @Zaratustra-V 16 дней назад

    Again Yablonski's shoulder wining the match! Great job from ref....sarcasm

  • @TheZoinxtorque
    @TheZoinxtorque Месяц назад +1

    For me, Tobias is better..clearly..Kamik is a presser...he has very.few assets, I don't see him in the armwrestling future....Congrats Tobias..!!

  • @shashishekharsingh4652
    @shashishekharsingh4652 Месяц назад +3

    Kamil shoulder were relatively squared. His forearm was always out of shoulder line and clearly visible.
    It has more to with such a big man being able to get so tight and bring his arm so close and infront of his chest.

  • @Cosmic_Punch06
    @Cosmic_Punch06 Месяц назад

    In the next East vs West 13 will fight
    Devon vs Genadi
    Levan vs Ermes
    Vitaly vs Kamil 😊

    • @freethinker9240
      @freethinker9240 Месяц назад

      If Dennis defeats Ermes he will face Levan

  • @KrisxMoon
    @KrisxMoon Месяц назад +1

    Good job Kamil!!! Tobias too weak for you❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @drpatrykrodziewicz744
    @drpatrykrodziewicz744 22 дня назад

    Tobias Sporrong didnt shake a hand. what a prick....

  • @bigmike913
    @bigmike913 Месяц назад

    That sholder moves before go every match i guess there's so much to watch for in that moment they just miss it idk.

  • @giacomozanetti2077
    @giacomozanetti2077 Месяц назад

    Kamil vs alizhan
    Tobias vs dzheranov
    Devon vs the checen 100 backpressure curl iso
    This would be good

  • @vlahell
    @vlahell Месяц назад

    Shoulder isn't in position. Bad referee, it's amazing how at this level you can have such a terrible people imparting justice at the table.

  • @leonidasonelove3
    @leonidasonelove3 Месяц назад +5

    Thats not even fair

  • @Orhan-uf1os
    @Orhan-uf1os Месяц назад +1

    Kamil vs alizhan