I use an old IRR Shortback bergen in Khaki. Rarely do i put a 58 bottle in the one outside pouch. I have a US Natmrines 3lt camelback bladder and bag. It has 2 corresponding size buckles that fit where rocket pouches do. Or i just leave it in top of the collar and hold it doemwn with my lid works fine. On thos pack. Because it has a 2way zip on top pocket, you could just use 1 end so it zips to back and just leave a bladder in there and run your hose to the front.
I got the mk 1 version about a year ago in OD green. I tend to agree with your experience of it : the materials, buckle, zips etc are good quality, the pouches and organisation they afford are brilliant and the carrying capacity is huge however, there are a few downsides. Due to size of the main pack it effectively places the 3 pouches and poncho pouch further away from your back. You mentioned that you needed to keep weight in this area down and that is certainly true but even with relatively light weight items it’s still a problem as the mass is still far away from your back and impacts on your centre of gravity. I found with a full pack it constantly felt it was pulling me backwards. The back length is also too short and the belt is around my middle rather than on my hips and there is little adjustment available. I know it’s designed for the military and would sit on top of the belt kit (the pack belt is removable for this reason) however, long gone are the days when I was wearing belt kit and I find not being able to take the weight of the pack on my hips properly means it’s all on the shoulders. The side pouches are huge, so much so that when fully packed it’s impossible to walk through a standard doorway wearing it which is a pain getting it out of the house in the first place plus it’s a bugger walking through dense woodland as it catches on trees and branches. I bought the yoke harness separately and use the side pouches as a day pack and either leave them empty or just shove them in the main pack until needed. All in all, if you are parachuting behind enemy lines for extended periods and need to carry food, water, ammunition, batteries, radios, NVGs, and all the other kit you need then this pack is what you need. For civy use / bushcraft, personally I find it a bit too big and I’d rather look for smaller, lighter kit options to fit in a smaller pack. For me, probably around 100 litres is enough.
Thanks for watching mate really appreciate your comment and you have a lot of good points on this pack especially agree with it not being long enough and the depth is too much I have the Commanders Patrol Pack and it's perfect I will try this pack a few more times before I decide to move it on or keep it if you haven't seen my video on the Patrol pack check out my video same setup as this but smaller atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Nice one Jimmy 👍. I like the way you include everything. The things you like and the small bits you're not too impressed with 🙂👍. A good and fair review. Cheers mate , atb Rick n Billydog
Thanks for watching Rick appreciate it mate ye it's got to be a honest review I can't say it's perfect if there's things I don't like I spoke to the company and they were happy with the review and the honesty and will be looking into the things I picked up atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Great video wanting one for some time so thanks for the review appreciate it And I’m guessing you took the bladder idea from me on your other kitpimp bregan review
Thanks for watching James yes I did mate it's a better option for carrying water it's a canny pack but can be a bit heavy and pull back a bit atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi mate, great vid. I’ve contacted kitpinp and dpm would be nearer the £400 mark. Not sure about mtp. But myself and a mate who I served with have both just got an olive green mk2 version. 👍👍 She’s a beast 😂
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft I’m finding the chest strap is a bit high up with waist belt sitting on hips, Might fit another strap a bit lower. we were royal artillery reserves too. Navel Gunfire Support troop.
@@1972andyb ye I found that problem with the sternum strap but fitted ok when using webbing my Reg had the MLRS I preferred when we had the FH70 and the 105 Light gun before that
Nice one Jimmy, great overview as always. Thats a tank of a bergen, looks great too despite the minor niggles. Its a bit too big for my liking if im honest, but this video has just prompted me to go back and watch your other video on the smaller commanders patrol pack and I like that a lot!! Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching Barney appreciate it mate ye it's a big pack possibly a tad to big for myself that commander's patrol pack is a excellent pack atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I've been looking at this bergan for a while now, however lots of reviews have stated that the shoulder straps are poorly designed and very uncomfortable, how have you found this?
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's a cracking pack but I'm not a fan of the shoulder straps the lifting straps at the top are no good to be honest and it feels like the pack pulls you back a bit if you don't load it correctly otherwise I really like the design it just all depends on what you need to take with you it's definitely better when using webbing hope that helps atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@LundysWildcampBushcraft Thanks for the prompt reply, most of my issue bergans had the same issue tbh, you tighten them right up but they never really pull the bergan in close like a dedicated hiking pack
@@Nick-ei5yj thanks for watching mate appreciate it I'm 5.10 it's comfortable if you pack it correctly it can fit a lot of kit but I would say using webbing with it makes it more comfortable if your looking for a smaller version check out the commander's patrol pack by kitpimp it's a fantastic pack ruclips.net/video/tXNVTB5KRII/видео.html atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I use the good old Berghaus Vulcan personally. That back system just looks a bit off to me, the load lifter straps like you say really dont look to do anything. Also its very short that back system. Soldier '95 and the old Berghaus cyclops systems come with i think 4 sizes? That looks even shorter than the small offering by them.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's definitely a bit too short and the load lifters don't work at all I mainly use the Warrior X300 assault pack it's the most comfortable pack I've ever had from a military system type pack I will be passing on a lot of issues to the company atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi, is based on the shortback bergen, is designed mainly for sitting above a soldiers belt kit, Re the back system generally not really had any feedback about it so far but we've taken Lundys feedback on board :)
@@kitpimp I served In the British Infantry so have experience in the packs I mentioned on a professional level. What you are saying is correct but only to a margin. It's recomended to size down on a PLCE for instance but only in some cases to allow for webbing. I'm 6ft 2 so fairly tall. I would most certainly not want to yomp a 60lb + bergen on a short back as the belt strap would be way too high and very uncomfortable. I've tabbed 1000's of miles in the set up with a long back ;)
So yeah your pack shows really great potential i think. Some cracking features with the pouch set up and other stuff. A blatent copy of the cyclops or PLCE for the load lifters and offer it in a longer option for us more lanky types and I think you'll have a big winner. 👌
damn Jimmy , that is one hell of a Bergen. what you had in it was how heavy was it? I know it's too big for me. but I was curious how much weight you had in it today? well my brother, you take care and have a great one and I will catch you on the next one. Dwayne
Thanks for watching Dwayne appreciate it mate ye it's a big pack and can carry a lot of kit and sometimes you can pack too much if the pack is that big I think I was carrying around 28kg in total its very well made atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Even though it looks a solid bit of kit. I'm not a fan of it, it looks way too big and cumbersome. A decent bag for back at the FOB and living out of, or for sticking in the back of a vehicle in Helmand. But for mooching about the hills in the UK for a few days, what on earth are you carrying in, where you would need a 150l? To even fill a normal 120l PLCE bergen takes an awful lot of gear. So unless you're carrying in loads of specialist gear, like video recording equipment or bales of cocaine. I'm failing to see why anyone (civilian) would need so much space. Now if the did a 3/4 size one, where the bergen was 60l, with zip on side pockets at 10l each. That would be ideal.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it some good points from yourself that I agree with ye it's a massive bit of kit I would prefer it to be long back and around 100 litres as I said in the video it pulls back too much I do carry a lot of camera and lightning equipment but I filled it up with as much kit as I could to see how it preformed and how it felt when carrying it on a decent walk and it wasn't good I have a commander's patrol pack from KitPimp same design as this and it's perfect you can find that video on my channel if interested atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft Nice one. I'll check out the patrol pack vid. 👍 Yeah, all that weight so far from your back, can't be comfortable. Totally agree it should be a long back too. I have an OG long back and I find it more comfortable than the short backs that I have, especially with the side pockets on. End up too wide and bashing off of things, and with no belt kit on to help support it either. the short backs are just less comfortable. Cheers, mate.
@@kitpimp Yeah, I definitely get this is for military use and a solid bit of kit. I'm totally looking at this with civvy eyes and mindset. No belt kit on and no need to hump a Javelin tube and a bunch of link for the GPMG. etc. A smaller version would be ideal, as I really do like the basha pouch and utility pouches. Around 90 - 100l with the pockets on. Somewhere in between the NI pack and this, with a padded waist belt. That for me would be perfect.
Hi Richard, appreciate the comment, we've set the price far below what other brands offer in the UK and the feedback we've had is fantastic, you may not be a serving soldier but this is a system that takes all the modifications most squaddies asked for in tailoring and puts them together, yes it is "fussy" but that's what soldiers want in a pack, as for being expensive, materials and fabric etc are pricey and for what your getting compared to other brands is a complete system
@@kitpimpI have been wanting the mk2 Bergen for some time but I don’t have the money to get it yet I think it is a fantastic price for a fantastic product a I can’t what to gat it
Hi Jason, appreciate the comment, please do remember the materials used themselves are expensive, this is not cheap fabric but military grade 1000D, it;s designed for soldiers, you should see the price from other brands for things of even smaller capacity, especially with the additions
Agreed m8 also just pay bit more and buy the beast Bergen from jay jays and your getting the real deal from company who understands what Bergens and webbing should be built like
Awesome video per usual and a fair review. That’s one Tardis of a pack. Though it might be able to fit your rations for a cheeky overnight according to Forest Stump.🥸🍺🫵🤟🇨🇦🫡🇬🇧🤟🫵🍺🥸
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I use an old IRR Shortback bergen in Khaki. Rarely do i put a 58 bottle in the one outside pouch.
I have a US Natmrines 3lt camelback bladder and bag. It has 2 corresponding size buckles that fit where rocket pouches do.
Or i just leave it in top of the collar and hold it doemwn with my lid works fine.
On thos pack. Because it has a 2way zip on top pocket, you could just use 1 end so it zips to back and just leave a bladder in there and run your hose to the front.
Thanks for watching David appreciate it mate ye I prefer to use a blader and put it in the side net pouch atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I got the mk 1 version about a year ago in OD green. I tend to agree with your experience of it : the materials, buckle, zips etc are good quality, the pouches and organisation they afford are brilliant and the carrying capacity is huge however, there are a few downsides. Due to size of the main pack it effectively places the 3 pouches and poncho pouch further away from your back. You mentioned that you needed to keep weight in this area down and that is certainly true but even with relatively light weight items it’s still a problem as the mass is still far away from your back and impacts on your centre of gravity. I found with a full pack it constantly felt it was pulling me backwards. The back length is also too short and the belt is around my middle rather than on my hips and there is little adjustment available. I know it’s designed for the military and would sit on top of the belt kit (the pack belt is removable for this reason) however, long gone are the days when I was wearing belt kit and I find not being able to take the weight of the pack on my hips properly means it’s all on the shoulders. The side pouches are huge, so much so that when fully packed it’s impossible to walk through a standard doorway wearing it which is a pain getting it out of the house in the first place plus it’s a bugger walking through dense woodland as it catches on trees and branches. I bought the yoke harness separately and use the side pouches as a day pack and either leave them empty or just shove them in the main pack until needed. All in all, if you are parachuting behind enemy lines for extended periods and need to carry food, water, ammunition, batteries, radios, NVGs, and all the other kit you need then this pack is what you need. For civy use / bushcraft, personally I find it a bit too big and I’d rather look for smaller, lighter kit options to fit in a smaller pack. For me, probably around 100 litres is enough.
Thanks for watching mate really appreciate your comment and you have a lot of good points on this pack especially agree with it not being long enough and the depth is too much I have the Commanders Patrol Pack and it's perfect I will try this pack a few more times before I decide to move it on or keep it if you haven't seen my video on the Patrol pack check out my video same setup as this but smaller atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
That's some great feedback @slippery99 but when people need to carry alot this is what it's for
Nice one Jimmy 👍. I like the way you include everything. The things you like and the small bits you're not too impressed with 🙂👍. A good and fair review.
Cheers mate , atb Rick n Billydog
Thanks for watching Rick appreciate it mate ye it's got to be a honest review I can't say it's perfect if there's things I don't like I spoke to the company and they were happy with the review and the honesty and will be looking into the things I picked up atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft Nice one Jimmy 👍
Great video wanting one for some time so thanks for the review appreciate it
And I’m guessing you took the bladder idea from me on your other kitpimp bregan review
Thanks for watching James yes I did mate it's a better option for carrying water it's a canny pack but can be a bit heavy and pull back a bit atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Nice kit Jimmy, Florida, USA
Thanks for watching Daniel appreciate it mate atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi mate, great vid. I’ve contacted kitpinp and dpm would be nearer the £400 mark. Not sure about mtp. But myself and a mate who I served with have both just got an olive green mk2 version. 👍👍
She’s a beast 😂
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's definitely a beast and can fit a canny bit kit in it what Reg you serve I was Royal Artillery reserves
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft I’m finding the chest strap is a bit high up with waist belt sitting on hips, Might fit another strap a bit lower.
we were royal artillery reserves too. Navel Gunfire Support troop.
@@1972andyb ye I found that problem with the sternum strap but fitted ok when using webbing my Reg had the MLRS I preferred when we had the FH70 and the 105 Light gun before that
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft I went on a few weekends with 105
Nice one Jimmy, great overview as always. Thats a tank of a bergen, looks great too despite the minor niggles.
Its a bit too big for my liking if im honest, but this video has just prompted me to go back and watch your other video on the smaller commanders patrol pack and I like that a lot!!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching Barney appreciate it mate ye it's a big pack possibly a tad to big for myself that commander's patrol pack is a excellent pack atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Great Review James 😊 Very Useful Info and looking forward to the Operational Assessment 👍 🇬🇧
Thanks for watching mate really
appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Beast of a rucksack that Jimmy and the thing is you can carry that fully loaded for miles, i dunno how you do it pal. Top review mate
Thanks for watching Ant appreciate it mate ye it's a big pack and can get canny heavy not sure how my knees will hold up 🤣🤣 atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I've been looking at this bergan for a while now, however lots of reviews have stated that the shoulder straps are poorly designed and very uncomfortable, how have you found this?
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's a cracking pack but I'm not a fan of the shoulder straps the lifting straps at the top are no good to be honest and it feels like the pack pulls you back a bit if you don't load it correctly otherwise I really like the design it just all depends on what you need to take with you it's definitely better when using webbing hope that helps atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@LundysWildcampBushcraft Thanks for the prompt reply, most of my issue bergans had the same issue tbh, you tighten them right up but they never really pull the bergan in close like a dedicated hiking pack
@@bravogolfoscar this is my go to pack very comfortable and I carry around 28kg
ruclips.net/video/0BZeEyoBm1U/видео.html
Best pack I've ever bought
Beast of a bergen mate
I must admit I do like an external pocket great for keeping stuff organised hey
Cheers mate
Des
Thanks for watching Des appreciate it mate the poncho pouch is a favourite of mine atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
thanks jim.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Another honest review. I’d struggle with a 100L pack never mind that beast! 😂
Thanks for watching Chezza appreciate it mate ye it's a big one 🤣🤣 atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Informative. Cheers.
@@PaulKelly-ke8od thanks for watching Paul appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi,
How tall are you and is it long enough in the back to be comfortable? Cheers
@@Nick-ei5yj thanks for watching mate appreciate it I'm 5.10 it's comfortable if you pack it correctly it can fit a lot of kit but I would say using webbing with it makes it more comfortable if your looking for a smaller version check out the commander's patrol pack by kitpimp it's a fantastic pack ruclips.net/video/tXNVTB5KRII/видео.html
atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Great review. It is for sure a big backpack. 😊😊😊
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's definitely a big Bergen possibility too big 🤣 atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Bloody hell mate, that's a beast.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it definitely is atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I use the good old Berghaus Vulcan personally. That back system just looks a bit off to me, the load lifter straps like you say really dont look to do anything. Also its very short that back system. Soldier '95 and the old Berghaus cyclops systems come with i think 4 sizes? That looks even shorter than the small offering by them.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it ye it's definitely a bit too short and the load lifters don't work at all I mainly use the Warrior X300 assault pack it's the most comfortable pack I've ever had from a military system type pack I will be passing on a lot of issues to the company atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi, is based on the shortback bergen, is designed mainly for sitting above a soldiers belt kit, Re the back system generally not really had any feedback about it so far but we've taken Lundys feedback on board :)
@@kitpimp I served In the British Infantry so have experience in the packs I mentioned on a professional level. What you are saying is correct but only to a margin. It's recomended to size down on a PLCE for instance but only in some cases to allow for webbing. I'm 6ft 2 so fairly tall. I would most certainly not want to yomp a 60lb + bergen on a short back as the belt strap would be way too high and very uncomfortable. I've tabbed 1000's of miles in the set up with a long back ;)
So yeah your pack shows really great potential i think. Some cracking features with the pouch set up and other stuff.
A blatent copy of the cyclops or PLCE for the load lifters and offer it in a longer option for us more lanky types and I think you'll have a big winner. 👌
damn Jimmy , that is one hell of a Bergen. what you had in it was how heavy was it? I know it's too big for me. but I was curious how much weight you had in it today? well my brother, you take care and have a great one and I will catch you on the next one.
Dwayne
Thanks for watching Dwayne appreciate it mate ye it's a big pack and can carry a lot of kit and sometimes you can pack too much if the pack is that big I think I was carrying around 28kg in total its very well made atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
hahahah Jimmy 150 LITERSSS you nutter!! Leave the kitchen sink at home!! ❤
🤣🤣🤣 thanks for Eze mate ye it's something I leave at home the wife wouldn't be happy 🤣🤣🤣 joking aside it a bit big atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
🤣🤣🤣🤣 such a joker, always having a good time!! love it@@LundysWildcampBushcraft
@@EzeAdventurerhe certainly is a positive guy! 😋
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Do they have a model with wheels?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 pmsl thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Great video buddy looks great
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Great video Jimmy 👍👍⛺️⛺️⛺️👍👍👍👍⛺️⛺️👍👍
Even though it looks a solid bit of kit. I'm not a fan of it, it looks way too big and cumbersome.
A decent bag for back at the FOB and living out of, or for sticking in the back of a vehicle in Helmand.
But for mooching about the hills in the UK for a few days, what on earth are you carrying in, where you would need a 150l?
To even fill a normal 120l PLCE bergen takes an awful lot of gear. So unless you're carrying in loads of specialist gear, like video recording equipment or bales of cocaine. I'm failing to see why anyone (civilian) would need so much space.
Now if the did a 3/4 size one, where the bergen was 60l, with zip on side pockets at 10l each. That would be ideal.
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it some good points from yourself that I agree with ye it's a massive bit of kit I would prefer it to be long back and around 100 litres as I said in the video it pulls back too much I do carry a lot of camera and lightning equipment but I filled it up with as much kit as I could to see how it preformed and how it felt when carrying it on a decent walk and it wasn't good I have a commander's patrol pack from KitPimp same design as this and it's perfect you can find that video on my channel if interested atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
@@LundysWildcampBushcraft Nice one. I'll check out the patrol pack vid. 👍
Yeah, all that weight so far from your back, can't be comfortable. Totally agree it should be a long back too. I have an OG long back and I find it more comfortable than the short backs that I have, especially with the side pockets on. End up too wide and bashing off of things, and with no belt kit on to help support it either. the short backs are just less comfortable.
Cheers, mate.
@@Section20Ul appreciate that mate 😎😎👍👍
We can look into that, certainly a smaller version, but for people who NEED to carry alot I.e support weapons etc this is what we offer
@@kitpimp Yeah, I definitely get this is for military use and a solid bit of kit. I'm totally looking at this with civvy eyes and mindset. No belt kit on and no need to hump a Javelin tube and a bunch of link for the GPMG. etc.
A smaller version would be ideal, as I really do like the basha pouch and utility pouches. Around 90 - 100l with the pockets on. Somewhere in between the NI pack and this, with a padded waist belt.
That for me would be perfect.
Top review !
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I'm giving that bergen new name.... Kitchen sink....
🤣🤣🤣 thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
We could rename it that... the "Kitchen Sink" bergen Lol 😂
Thankyou
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
I feel that it's too fussy and too expensive..
Thanks for watching Richard appreciate the comment mate atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi Richard, appreciate the comment, we've set the price far below what other brands offer in the UK and the feedback we've had is fantastic, you may not be a serving soldier but this is a system that takes all the modifications most squaddies asked for in tailoring and puts them together, yes it is "fussy" but that's what soldiers want in a pack, as for being expensive, materials and fabric etc are pricey and for what your getting compared to other brands is a complete system
@@kitpimpI have been wanting the mk2 Bergen for some time but I don’t have the money to get it yet
I think it is a fantastic price for a fantastic product a I can’t what to gat it
@@kitpimpwhat’s the back length of this please?
I may have to visit your store for a try😊
Ridiculous pice
Mind you...I would have one.. j hate being a pauper
Thanks for watching mate appreciate it atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Hi Jason, appreciate the comment, please do remember the materials used themselves are expensive, this is not cheap fabric but military grade 1000D, it;s designed for soldiers, you should see the price from other brands for things of even smaller capacity, especially with the additions
@kitpimpuk7949 I know. .just quality gear has always been out of reach for me.
i find these videos boring mate they only ones of yours i dont watch are these
Agreed m8 also just pay bit more and buy the beast Bergen from jay jays and your getting the real deal from company who understands what Bergens and webbing should be built like
Thanks for you honesty mate just watch the camping videos if you don't like review video's atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
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Awesome video per usual and a fair review. That’s one Tardis of a pack. Though it might be able to fit your rations for a cheeky overnight according to Forest Stump.🥸🍺🫵🤟🇨🇦🫡🇬🇧🤟🫵🍺🥸
Thanks for watching Ian appreciate it mate ye unfortunately I couldn't fit in the pudding then I realised he was walking next to me 🤣🤣 atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍