Mr. Driscoll nailed the Ahab I know on every point. It was freaky. I had never heard a sermon about Ahab. They are often driven by a Jezebel (work, family, spiritual. financial life) Jezebel can be a family member, a boss, etc. Ahabs are passive and unaccountable, which spells disaster for their families. It's like they never have to grow up and face any reality or consequences for their evil because, after all, it was passivity.
21 Things Ahab avoids: 1. Headship 2. Conflict 3. Overt Living 4. Leading at Home 5. Learning 6. Healthy Spirituality 7. Leading at Work 8. Picking a Church 9. Joy 10. Difficult Decisions 11. Sacrifice 12. Generosity 13. Correction/Confrontation 14. Caring 15. Dirty Work 16. Family 17. Hard Work 18. Rejection 19. Discomfort 20. Initiative 21. Reality
My God this is good teaching. As a woman, I wish Grace would teach submission and femininity and do videos we can learn from. At my church, we have shallow women's groups, but us ladies need the meat of the Word and wisdom of our elders. Especially in our evil culture. God bless you. 🙌
Amen ! I wish I would have known this early in life by the many pastors I have listened to in my whole entire life ! Amazing how The church today is so soft and politically correct instead of teaching Gods way Correctly. God help us ! Thank u for this video God bless all of us and God bless these pastors that are speaking truth ! Protect Them in Jesus Name Amen
I am not a Jezebel. I have chosen Ahab males as partners "nice guys nerds" who betrayed me for aggressively sexual ex females who were obsessively competitive with me. They were domineering females, who used flattery and lust, while I don't flirt and I don't entertain weakness of character and I don't give empty flattery. Very emotional men who wanted me to be their mothers who assumed that gifting me things would stop me from remembering glaring issues that needed THEIR attention. They let everyone into our relationship. I thought I was doing something good by not choosing blatantly rude men but Weak men are even worse, it seems.
LOL - Perfectly said. I just escaped a relationship like this! This is exactly what I just experienced! Praise God We are FREE! My Doors are SHUT! Halleluia
I’m just realizing what an Ahab my dad is. It’s taken me years to realize just what he put my mother through, but she stayed with him for the sake of her kids. So much has happened to us because he refused to lead. Lord don’t let me grow bitter towards him.
I heard several teachings about this, because there are some cases in my family and ancestors, I was very worried about being myself a jezabel narcissist as I struggled with wounds (through abuse and violence those people work to make you be like them) , and your teaching is very complete., thank you.
What a ultimate paradigm shift this fully understood with clarity and transparent teaching a major level of encounter just for me at this season!!! This confirmed my Threapy and spiritual counseling
I had both spirits in me, because of trauma. My mother was (still is) a typical Jezebel spirit and my father the Ahab spirit…… I was damaged because of this… But I received guidance from god since 2002 after surrendering to god. I did my inner child work and shadowwork for 20 years. I am healed from childhood wounds now. And I have the Elijah spirit now……. My mission in life and service to god. is now to help men and women with childhood wounds. ❤️ Thanks for your video’s! 😇
Just because a man is an Ahab, does not mean his wife is a Jezebel. In my experience, women or men, that flatter or tell my husband what he wants to hear, end up controlling him AND how he treats me and our children. But that is NOT myself. Even though, I long for his leadership, I will not step into his role. I’ve seen this happen too many times with other couples. It’s not of the Lord, and it never ends well.
You're dishonoring your husband right now... I suggest you get off RUclips and talk to your Pastor. And YES.... AHABS ARE ALWAYS WITH A JEZEBEL.... it's a codependent relationship... and Jezebel speaks poorly of her husband without thought of holding her tongue
If you've ever said... "I'll do it myself" Described or referred to your husband as a "child" or "just a big kid" ....or public dishonor of him... then yes... you're acting like a Jezebel
@@shenanigansofmannanan yes, they are with a Jezebel- but it can be their boss, their sister… that doesn’t mean it’s their wife. It’s whomever has the loudest voice in their life.
My reaction to the war between our parents was to side with the underdog, my dad. I despised the way my mother treated him & vowed never to treat my husband that way. Unequipped & resentful I handled abuse the way my dad did, as an Ahab - a co-dependent, abused wife & mother.
Me too. I identified with too many of the character flaws in that message. I really never even thought about those aspects of my character, and if I had I wouldn't have thought of them as evil. I avoid confrontation but that just means I'm peaceful, right? It's a virtue, not a flaw. That's how I would think. It's opening my eyes to some things watching this sermon.
Once you stand up like Elijah. Jezabels will feel it run and try to use others to attack. Their new supply avoids you or looking you in the eyes. Pastor states the truth.
This is a great sermon but I’m having a bit of an issue withy the assumption that an Ahab is typically married to a Jezebel. Ahabs, I contend, might also just as frequently be married to an Elijah because the covert narcissist Ahab disguised himself at the onset of the relationship. “Elijah” believed that Ahab just needed encouragement, maturity, etc
Oh my, someone help. My husband is so passive and emotion. As a wife I am so tired sometimes, as I have to play the lead role, even though I don't want that. As my pastor says Lord will use us in the future, the evil spirit just try to separate us on when I told my husband that God might call us. Last night, the spirit of Jezebel visit me in my dream and I rebuke by the name of Jesus Christ. I told my husband has to lead by the Holy Spirit but he is just not willing to believe the gift of tongues. I am so tired and need a place to speak, may Lord help me......
This message is not just for men Your teaching is vital for women, too! I have a lot to share on this subject, but I don’t think here and now is the place and time I appreciate your strong voice I want to be a woman with a strong voice I want the assertive spirit I am tired of the controlling and passive spirits Not just in others but within myself, too Thank you
Is it possible for someone to have both spirits operating in the same person? I feel like I see both spirits alternating back and forth in someone I know and they talk about being at war with themselves. Is this possible or can you explain what is happening here, Paster Mark?
Ok my husband has this…now that I know, what can I do and how should I treat him to not encourage this Spirit? My husband won’t do the work or even believe this is his issue, so right now it’s all on me
Great Teaching Even as I stand in front of the mirror 🪞 Grew up in a Christian ✝️ home 🏡 of Jezebel mother 👩 and Ahab father 👨 I have thru reading 📚 and counseling and life self reflection slowly 🐌 learned and removed the back and forth in my life The spirits of Ahab and Jezebel Kinda like an onion 🌰 Onions 🌰 taste good in the right portion or food dish Straight onion 🌰 is not overly tasty So am continuing to peel away the dead/wrong onion 🌰 leaves to become a better man 👨 Removing the bitter as well Growing up in Christ Become Salt 🧂 Become Light ❤ Unfortunately have to have very strong high healthy boundaries with people that want to control, manipulate, dominate and suck you back in to the dysfunction The healthier we become the easier it should be to spot dysfunction and unhealthy habits and people Blessings to You All on Your Journey 😊❤😊
@@harumiayame8586 it took me a long time. My pacifism eroded over time. I just didn't want to be alone. Ultimately, i figured out it wasn't about me, but the glory of God.
I would like to add this (mid message). I doubt in the Garden of Eden that the costly 'Take a bite' was the first encounter between Eve and the tricky possessed reptile. I'm sure they 'danced' before, so she was charmed and thought nothing of this also apparently verbal creature. Where oh where was Adam while this was developing? Don't you guess she would have mentioned 'the reptile there speaks to me blah blah blah. It seems odd to just not be frightened AND to also trust a speaking creature on the first meet and greet. Then do as the lowly creature suggests.
It doesn't make sense to me that a sense of victimhood is the Ahab spirit. It seems more Jezebel to me. If you are passive and avoid confrontation, then you're likely to accept blame and not fight back. People who see themselves as victims give themselves an excuse to fight. If you look around our society, the people protesting and looting and assaulting people and committing vandalism and such are always excusing it by claiming they deserve to do that because they've been victimized.
Google this: real faith mark Driscoll elijah study Should be the first or second link. YT has a new auto mod system that deletes comments with links in it to help prevent bot scams otherwise I'd just post the direct link
How man I need a teaching on how to live like this, church for example the church we went to for 10y I knew we were going knowwhere then when the new pastor came I picked it up immediately he was a Jezebel and I had to get out, suffocating and I knew I could never grow, read the book law of the lid by John Maxwell anyway we left and for the last 5y my husbands been mad at me we don’t go to church, I have asked him which one, I have said let look at all the points they have and see which one is good, nothing, I told him which one frm over the years I have liked best and why, still nothing and no decision but it’s still my fault and I don’t support him..
Very interesting preach overall but @ 14:20 you said "and for you single men, hear me in this, and let me put the father hat on. If you meet a gal and she's just really good in bed, so you sort of overlook everything else, that is not your wife, that is your witch." Not sure what you mean by "in bed" but I've always taken that to mean the act of sex. The warning in this passage seems to centre around overlooking concerning traits outside of the sexual pleasure the woman brings. Shouldn't you be saying to these single men that they shouldn't be in bed with prospective women at all? Perhaps you could say: "...If you meet a gal and she's just sexually attractive, so you sort of overlook...". The way you worded it seems ambiguous as to the sin of premarital sex in the first place.
His stance is not ambiguous. He frequently tells men and women to break up if they're having sex. His topic here is about the Ahab spirit, so a foolish, weak man without self control. Such a man wouldn't wait to get into bed with a woman who was weaponizing sexuality. He's not talking to men who haven't slept with the girl yet. He's talking to the men who have slept with the girl and spend their time trying to validate their choice. Him speaking to the men who are already sleeping with the woman also encapsulates the men who haven't yet but wanted to sleep with the woman. Driscoll telling men who've slept with her that she's a witch simultaneously tells men who haven't slept with her that she's a witch. However since the men who've had enough self control to not sleep with her aren't the topic this week it's even further fitting that he's speaking directly to the weaker men. Topic: passive men Speaking to: passive men If you're a frequent watcher then you know how often Driscoll hammers about not having sex before marriage, how damaging it is, and how foolish it is. If you're relatively new or very new then welcome! Driscoll is almost always blunt.
@@bufficliff8978 Oh okay, thanks for that context. It is definitely reassuring and makes sense as far as the audiences he is speaking to. I suppose it's to be noted that he actually speaks to men that have already slept with their girlfriend. These listeners/church goers are seeking to follow God's will and mark is acknowledging that's where some of these guys are at. He is bold and blunt and I suppose I'm used to a speaker that adds in a qualifier for the sake of that preach taken in isolation from other preaches. But again, i think it is commendable and rare that he speaks to men in the audience that have already had sex with their past or current girlfriends. It's just a reality for these people.. I haven't seen a ton of teaching from Mark over the years but my mind goes to the famous soundbite/clip many people define Mark by. The "who in the hell do you think you are!" clip with the most views has no context and many have never bothered to actually watch the entire message, not to mention follow the sermon series. Seeing that years ago, I was curious about the clip and actually sought out context and in doing that, realised it was called for. It was also a rebuke that many evangelical speakers will never do, or certainly not so direct and forceful. And when he says there are some in the congregation who fit the bill of an emotionally abusive boyfriend/husband, I one hundred percent agree given the size of the church and the large proportion of those who are new to the faith and have perhaps less Christian formation (though not exclusively that demographic as plenty of "life long" Christians behave in this way. Anyway, all that rambling to say, I appreciate the context and thank you for filling me in. A side note too that I appreciate Mark preaches the reality of the demonic in our world today. And he preaches how to recognise and how to address and fight back. Again, many contemporary "bigger name" evangelical preachers may not speak much, if anything, about the reality and influence of the demonic upon believers today. They may talk about the interaction Jesus had with them in his ministry but as far as practical teaching, may be limited. Anyway, God bless and protect Mark as he delivers these words. Thanks again for filling me in.
What should one do when a Jezebel woman pastor has a hypnotic influence with another woman’s husband who has an Ahab spirit? The pastor (who is older and married) is coming between their marriage. Prayers please.
omission more than commission -won't stop harm and evil avoid difficulty, don't like conflict, responsibility allow evil to progeny compassion and liked but cowardly and indifferent passive emotional whiney tolerating Jezebel
love -1-fear of man, avoids man, hiding -2-entitlement soft, spoiled, self-indulgent, appetites (my word) -3-victim hood Elijah is the troubled of Israel blameshifts -4-coddling over mothered and under fathered Jezebel was a controlling and dominating mother, she flatters, she gets the land -5-emotionalism yelled, cried, not healthy emotionally if you think you can get control, you'll whine or yell NOT others focused sulk -6-love flattery, insecure know they aren't strong and impressive live for approval of others "you are of great authority and you govern well" -7-perversion manipulation through seduction
What he meant by Ahab spirit is a spirit that makes a man behaves or act like the way Ahab behave in the bible. The spirit working behind a man apart from the Holy Spirit.
Once an Ahab but now I have been redeemed into a Jesus man! Loved this sermon. I could see old me in this everywhere. Grateful for God's grace!
Excellent teaching. Every man in America needs to hear this message.
I used to be an Ahab/codependent in so many ways. Lord have mercy. Thank you, Lord, for freeing me. Thank you, Lord Jesus. AMEN. ❤❤❤
Mr. Driscoll nailed the Ahab I know on every point. It was freaky. I had never heard a sermon about Ahab. They are often driven by a Jezebel (work, family, spiritual. financial life) Jezebel can be a family member, a boss, etc. Ahabs are passive and unaccountable, which spells disaster for their families. It's like they never have to grow up and face any reality or consequences for their evil because, after all, it was passivity.
21 Things Ahab avoids:
1. Headship
2. Conflict
3. Overt Living
4. Leading at Home
5. Learning
6. Healthy Spirituality
7. Leading at Work
8. Picking a Church
9. Joy
10. Difficult Decisions
11. Sacrifice
12. Generosity
13. Correction/Confrontation
14. Caring
15. Dirty Work
16. Family
17. Hard Work
18. Rejection
19. Discomfort
20. Initiative
21. Reality
Oh poop...add controlling, domineering and aggressive and it perfectly describes someone I know.
AMEN! Thanks for sharing. God bless. ❤❤❤
Thank you❤️🙏🏼!
@@Dalcar.avotreestudiothose sound like Jezebel but can the two exist in one person?
My God this is good teaching.
As a woman, I wish Grace would teach submission and femininity and do videos we can learn from. At my church, we have shallow women's groups, but us ladies need the meat of the Word and wisdom of our elders. Especially in our evil culture.
God bless you. 🙌
Same here. In my church there was just a acceptance for the alphabet community group 😳😵💫🤦🏻♀️🥺 slowly surrounded by woke
Go look at the bible studies of Susan Heck. She memorised 26 books of the bible by heart and she only teaches women. Such a blessing
Amen ! I wish I would have known this early in life by the many pastors I have listened to in my whole entire life ! Amazing how The church today is so soft and politically correct instead of teaching Gods way Correctly. God help us ! Thank u for this video God bless all of us and God bless these pastors that are speaking truth ! Protect Them in Jesus Name Amen
Did you know taking God's name in vain is a huge sin? Like one of the ten commandments?
@@sassycat6487don’t worry, she wasn’t
Some men have been destroyed and become passive due to abuse from their parents. Many are going through trauma and needs healing and deliverance .
I am not a Jezebel. I have chosen Ahab males as partners "nice guys nerds" who betrayed me for aggressively sexual ex females who were obsessively competitive with me. They were domineering females, who used flattery and lust, while I don't flirt and I don't entertain weakness of character and I don't give empty flattery. Very emotional men who wanted me to be their mothers who assumed that gifting me things would stop me from remembering glaring issues that needed THEIR attention. They let everyone into our relationship. I thought I was doing something good by not choosing blatantly rude men but Weak men are even worse, it seems.
LOL - Perfectly said. I just escaped a relationship like this! This is exactly what I just experienced! Praise God We are FREE! My Doors are SHUT! Halleluia
I’m just realizing what an Ahab my dad is. It’s taken me years to realize just what he put my mother through, but she stayed with him for the sake of her kids. So much has happened to us because he refused to lead. Lord don’t let me grow bitter towards him.
God sent me exactly what I needed to hear today...
I heard several teachings about this, because there are some cases in my family and ancestors, I was very worried about being myself a jezabel narcissist as I struggled with wounds (through abuse and violence those people work to make you be like them) , and your teaching is very complete., thank you.
What a ultimate paradigm shift this fully understood with clarity and transparent teaching a major level of encounter just for me at this season!!! This confirmed my Threapy and spiritual counseling
This message is such a BLESSING. So many revelations. Bless you , your family , your calling & ministry man of GOD😇
I had both spirits in me, because of trauma. My mother was (still is) a typical Jezebel spirit and my father the Ahab spirit……
I was damaged because of this…
But I received guidance from god since 2002 after surrendering to god. I did my inner child work and shadowwork for 20 years.
I am healed from childhood wounds now. And I have the Elijah spirit now…….
My mission in life and service to god. is now to help men and women with childhood wounds. ❤️
Thanks for your video’s! 😇
Thank you! Very eye-opening, convicting and encouraging!
Thank you pastor Mark, this is what I want to hear . Thank you for preaching the truth .
Just because a man is an Ahab, does not mean his wife is a Jezebel. In my experience, women or men, that flatter or tell my husband what he wants to hear, end up controlling him AND how he treats me and our children. But that is NOT myself.
Even though, I long for his leadership, I will not step into his role. I’ve seen this happen too many times with other couples. It’s not of the Lord, and it never ends well.
You're dishonoring your husband right now... I suggest you get off RUclips and talk to your Pastor.
And YES.... AHABS ARE ALWAYS WITH A JEZEBEL.... it's a codependent relationship... and Jezebel speaks poorly of her husband without thought of holding her tongue
If you've ever said... "I'll do it myself"
Described or referred to your husband as a "child" or "just a big kid" ....or public dishonor of him... then yes... you're acting like a Jezebel
@@shenanigansofmannanan yes, they are with a Jezebel- but it can be their boss, their sister… that doesn’t mean it’s their wife.
It’s whomever has the loudest voice in their life.
@@shenanigansofmannananfacts
You are right ❤
Great sermon. A little convicting
Excellent teaching. Thank you. God bless!
My reaction to the war between our parents was to side with the underdog, my dad. I despised the way my mother treated him & vowed never to treat my husband that way. Unequipped & resentful I handled abuse the way my dad did, as an Ahab - a co-dependent, abused wife & mother.
Your mother might also gone through abuse herself. Pray for her .
WOW. This is REALLY good teaching too.
NEEDED to hear that. ❤️
Me too. I identified with too many of the character flaws in that message. I really never even thought about those aspects of my character, and if I had I wouldn't have thought of them as evil. I avoid confrontation but that just means I'm peaceful, right? It's a virtue, not a flaw. That's how I would think. It's opening my eyes to some things watching this sermon.
AMEN. THANK YOU, LORD JESUS. THANK YOU, LORD. AMEN. ❤❤❤
It’s very hard with this spirit , because you don’t want to go coddle them or flatter them because ITS NOT CUTE!! Then you get accused for not caring…
Once you stand up like Elijah. Jezabels will feel it run and try to use others to attack. Their new supply avoids you or looking you in the eyes. Pastor states the truth.
Excellent teaching! Subscribed.
This is a great sermon but I’m having a bit of an issue withy the assumption that an Ahab is typically married to a Jezebel. Ahabs, I contend, might also just as frequently be married to an Elijah because the covert narcissist Ahab disguised himself at the onset of the relationship. “Elijah” believed that Ahab just needed encouragement, maturity, etc
EXCELLENT MESSAGE WELL BALANCE
Oh my, someone help. My husband is so passive and emotion. As a wife I am so tired sometimes, as I have to play the lead role, even though I don't want that. As my pastor says Lord will use us in the future, the evil spirit just try to separate us on when I told my husband that God might call us. Last night, the spirit of Jezebel visit me in my dream and I rebuke by the name of Jesus Christ. I told my husband has to lead by the Holy Spirit but he is just not willing to believe the gift of tongues. I am so tired and need a place to speak, may Lord help me......
We have the same thing we always get told God has such huge plans for us!!
wwow amazing teaching
Death to the old man and life in the new man is the answer. The Gospel destroys the old man and resurrects the person to the new life in Christ.
This message is not just for men
Your teaching is vital for women, too!
I have a lot to share on this subject, but I don’t think here and now is the place and time
I appreciate your strong voice
I want to be a woman with a strong voice
I want the assertive spirit
I am tired of the controlling and passive spirits
Not just in others but within myself, too
Thank you
Is it possible for someone to have both spirits operating in the same person? I feel like I see both spirits alternating back and forth in someone I know and they talk about being at war with themselves. Is this possible or can you explain what is happening here, Paster Mark?
Great video
Ok my husband has this…now that I know, what can I do and how should I treat him to not encourage this Spirit? My husband won’t do the work or even believe this is his issue, so right now it’s all on me
In the immortal words of Arsenio Hall...."He ain't lyin"......Wish at times I still worked in AZ. I would be going here.
Great Teaching
Even as I stand in front of the mirror 🪞
Grew up in a Christian ✝️ home 🏡 of Jezebel mother 👩 and Ahab father 👨
I have thru reading 📚 and counseling and life self reflection slowly 🐌 learned and removed the back and forth in my life
The spirits of Ahab and Jezebel
Kinda like an onion 🌰
Onions 🌰 taste good in the right portion or food dish
Straight onion 🌰 is not overly tasty
So am continuing to peel away the dead/wrong onion 🌰 leaves to become a better man 👨
Removing the bitter as well
Growing up in Christ
Become Salt 🧂
Become Light ❤
Unfortunately have to have very strong high healthy boundaries with people that want to control, manipulate, dominate and suck you back in to the dysfunction
The healthier we become the easier it should be to spot dysfunction and unhealthy habits and people
Blessings to You All on Your Journey 😊❤😊
I used to be an Ahab...
Ok, never 100% Ahab spirit 😅
How did you change?
@@harumiayame8586 it took me a long time. My pacifism eroded over time. I just didn't want to be alone. Ultimately, i figured out it wasn't about me, but the glory of God.
And, as i watch this sermon again, i was maybe 50% Ahab...
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!
Where can I find the real women videos
I would like to add this (mid message). I doubt in the Garden of Eden that the costly 'Take a bite' was the first encounter between Eve and the tricky possessed reptile. I'm sure they 'danced' before, so she was charmed and thought nothing of this also apparently verbal creature. Where oh where was Adam while this was developing? Don't you guess she would have mentioned 'the reptile there speaks to me blah blah blah. It seems odd to just not be frightened AND to also trust a speaking creature on the first meet and greet. Then do as the lowly creature suggests.
❤❤❤
Amen.
It doesn't make sense to me that a sense of victimhood is the Ahab spirit. It seems more Jezebel to me. If you are passive and avoid confrontation, then you're likely to accept blame and not fight back. People who see themselves as victims give themselves an excuse to fight. If you look around our society, the people protesting and looting and assaulting people and committing vandalism and such are always excusing it by claiming they deserve to do that because they've been victimized.
Isn’t victimhood more like self pity? I know how destructive that is.
Where there is one in a marriage is there always the other also?
No. Sometimes Esthers choose Ahabs trying to partner with a sweet quiet guy. His passivity becomes evil for sure
Pastor Mark, where can I receive a study guide?
Google this: real faith mark Driscoll elijah study
Should be the first or second link.
YT has a new auto mod system that deletes comments with links in it to help prevent bot scams otherwise I'd just post the direct link
Satan wouldn’t be unless Satan chipped his way down with scriptures, to tear the door off the fools’ frames.
Do you have a podcast
Yes
Never go full Ahab 😂
Strong spirit dont know how possible to overcome is the curse todays society
Can a husband has some of both and a wife have some of both?
It is so subtle that Ahab dumps responsibility on his wife but the wife also have to be submissive. But this is not submissive on to the lord
I find that an ahab man also has the jezebel working in him
I have seen the spirit of Ahab and Jezebel in one man.
How man I need a teaching on how to live like this, church for example the church we went to for 10y I knew we were going knowwhere then when the new pastor came I picked it up immediately he was a Jezebel and I had to get out, suffocating and I knew I could never grow, read the book law of the lid by John Maxwell anyway we left and for the last 5y my husbands been mad at me we don’t go to church, I have asked him which one, I have said let look at all the points they have and see which one is good, nothing, I told him which one frm over the years I have liked best and why, still nothing and no decision but it’s still my fault and I don’t support him..
Just remember, Arab was evil BEFORE he married Jezebel. She made him worse,yes. But he was evil looking for evil and controlled by his own lust.
“In addition”
So Jezebel is overt narcissist and Ajab is covert narcissist?!
Very interesting preach overall but @ 14:20 you said "and for you single men, hear me in this, and let me put the father hat on. If you meet a gal and she's just really good in bed, so you sort of overlook everything else, that is not your wife, that is your witch."
Not sure what you mean by "in bed" but I've always taken that to mean the act of sex. The warning in this passage seems to centre around overlooking concerning traits outside of the sexual pleasure the woman brings. Shouldn't you be saying to these single men that they shouldn't be in bed with prospective women at all? Perhaps you could say: "...If you meet a gal and she's just sexually attractive, so you sort of overlook...". The way you worded it seems ambiguous as to the sin of premarital sex in the first place.
His stance is not ambiguous. He frequently tells men and women to break up if they're having sex.
His topic here is about the Ahab spirit, so a foolish, weak man without self control. Such a man wouldn't wait to get into bed with a woman who was weaponizing sexuality.
He's not talking to men who haven't slept with the girl yet. He's talking to the men who have slept with the girl and spend their time trying to validate their choice.
Him speaking to the men who are already sleeping with the woman also encapsulates the men who haven't yet but wanted to sleep with the woman. Driscoll telling men who've slept with her that she's a witch simultaneously tells men who haven't slept with her that she's a witch.
However since the men who've had enough self control to not sleep with her aren't the topic this week it's even further fitting that he's speaking directly to the weaker men.
Topic: passive men
Speaking to: passive men
If you're a frequent watcher then you know how often Driscoll hammers about not having sex before marriage, how damaging it is, and how foolish it is. If you're relatively new or very new then welcome!
Driscoll is almost always blunt.
@@bufficliff8978 Oh okay, thanks for that context. It is definitely reassuring and makes sense as far as the audiences he is speaking to. I suppose it's to be noted that he actually speaks to men that have already slept with their girlfriend. These listeners/church goers are seeking to follow God's will and mark is acknowledging that's where some of these guys are at. He is bold and blunt and I suppose I'm used to a speaker that adds in a qualifier for the sake of that preach taken in isolation from other preaches. But again, i think it is commendable and rare that he speaks to men in the audience that have already had sex with their past or current girlfriends. It's just a reality for these people.. I haven't seen a ton of teaching from Mark over the years but my mind goes to the famous soundbite/clip many people define Mark by. The "who in the hell do you think you are!" clip with the most views has no context and many have never bothered to actually watch the entire message, not to mention follow the sermon series. Seeing that years ago, I was curious about the clip and actually sought out context and in doing that, realised it was called for. It was also a rebuke that many evangelical speakers will never do, or certainly not so direct and forceful. And when he says there are some in the congregation who fit the bill of an emotionally abusive boyfriend/husband, I one hundred percent agree given the size of the church and the large proportion of those who are new to the faith and have perhaps less Christian formation (though not exclusively that demographic as plenty of "life long" Christians behave in this way. Anyway, all that rambling to say, I appreciate the context and thank you for filling me in. A side note too that I appreciate Mark preaches the reality of the demonic in our world today. And he preaches how to recognise and how to address and fight back. Again, many contemporary "bigger name" evangelical preachers may not speak much, if anything, about the reality and influence of the demonic upon believers today. They may talk about the interaction Jesus had with them in his ministry but as far as practical teaching, may be limited. Anyway, God bless and protect Mark as he delivers these words. Thanks again for filling me in.
L.O.L. Got to learn alot of shit, cause their anxiously dissatisfied and refuse to live of, nor under the 1 1st true YesUs I Am light + veil Creator.
An Ahab husband will blame his wife of being a jezebel just because she calls him out on it.
What should one do when a Jezebel woman pastor has a hypnotic influence with another woman’s husband who has an Ahab spirit? The pastor (who is older and married) is coming between their marriage. Prayers please.
Leave that church if it has a female pastor
Beta pastors would call this "machismo" and "women-controlling".
Fun game… every time Pastor Mark says “in addition”, you have to pray for a neighbor or family member who needs Jesus
I agree. But I think in women, its because they are spoiled brats who had weak fathers, not abuse in background.
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This is Definitely todays Men 😂😂😂
omission more than commission
-won't stop harm and evil
avoid difficulty, don't like conflict, responsibility
allow evil to progeny
compassion and liked but cowardly and indifferent
passive emotional whiney
tolerating Jezebel
love
-1-fear of man, avoids man, hiding
-2-entitlement
soft, spoiled, self-indulgent, appetites (my word)
-3-victim hood
Elijah is the troubled of Israel
blameshifts
-4-coddling
over mothered and under fathered
Jezebel was a controlling and dominating mother, she flatters, she gets the land
-5-emotionalism
yelled, cried, not healthy emotionally
if you think you can get control, you'll whine or yell
NOT others focused
sulk
-6-love flattery, insecure
know they aren't strong and impressive
live for approval of others
"you are of great authority and you govern well"
-7-perversion
manipulation through seduction
No where in the Bible does it mention an Ahab spirit. Not even in the book of Enoch.
King Ahab is in the Old Testament
No where in the Bible does it say the word ‘Trinity’ or ‘ Rapture’ but we all know it’s true
What he meant by Ahab spirit is a spirit that makes a man behaves or act like the way Ahab behave in the bible. The spirit working behind a man apart from the Holy Spirit.
That sounds horrible, good thing I dwell at the shores of the Gerasene.
Hmmmpt 😒
l.O.l. …….
The average American man
A-ha-b is as good as B🖤🌑💩