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Guys, don't give thumbs down because you don't like the pulls. That's not Packman's fault. He's opening things that many of us cannot afford so that we can get a glimpse as to what it offers. He did that well.
The guy took 4 minutes to get started!!! I hate box breakers...they think we actually care to hear them speak...we came to see the cards...get the fuck to it already!!!! Fuckin geeks
that is precisely my issue with panini, aint nobody paying 2500 to get charlie ward auto's... like the dude never even averaged over 9 points per game for a season
This Holiday is legit not a bad pull. Imagine how many people did pull nothing from a regular NT Box for wich they paied way more. I know this is FOTL. But even tho it's Holiday. The look of the card itself is top! And the patch is one of the sickest o've seen in all NT this year
The thing for me is it really isn’t about making money or making money back on these boxes. If you ever get the chance, they are legit tons of fun to break. Not to mention you go on an emotional roller coaster on each card. Think about this: we all buy hobby boxes. How often do you come close to making money back on them? If I buy a hobby boy for $150 I know I’m usually down $125 buy the time I finish opening packs. Again, not always about making money. It’s just fun to break and if you do get that giant hit, ohhhh look out lol
Pat hey don’t hate my bro don’t even collect cards I spent $20 and only got a trey young rookie.My bro spent $10 and pulled a yellow rated rookie Luca Donruss dollar tree pack ls are legit
NT wow! It was a little disappointing that no huge names were in that box. Prices are just beyond insane lol! Thanks for ripping it for us, just wish you pulled a huge card.
This is no longer a hobby or considered collecting. This is straight up gambling. The hobby died as soon as the started cutting up relics and putting them on cards.
For THAT price, you should be GUARANTEED at LEAST ONE card that is worth 500$. If not, then its literally a waste of money. I remember back in the day, you could spend 20$ for a card that was already graded by Beckett and Guaranteed a 9 or a 10. So spending that 20$ you were pretty damn sure to get your money back and THEN some if you sold the card. People were getting 10 grade Kobe rookies/ Lebron rookies/ I got a peyton manning rookie graded 9 ....all for 20 fukn dollars... that was literally the best deal I ever came across... now people paying 1000$ + for a pack of card you MIGHT BARELY get your money back on? The card collecting scene is totally fucked now... I just stick to basic panini prizm packs and I always end up with good shit.
Well don't be too disappointed, because just about every box break I'm seeing is completely underwhelming. Legit the biggest DOGSHIT OVERPRICED PRODUCT IVE EVER SEEN. Not worth $1000 a box in any universe. Hooray for sticker autos & old-time players that were good, but not stars. If you don't get a big RPA you're losing a lot of money in EVERY BOX.
That Mark Jackson is a whopping 2.00 atm on eBay. Finding that in a 2500$+ box shouldn't be possible honestly. Charlie Ward, 13$. Sean Elliot like 10$. De'aaron fox 20$ Even that AD piece I see similar for 20$. Yikes
The value of those cards is never even remotely close to what these boxes are selling for. What are the odds of getting any kind of return at all on a $15,000 box of random cardboard? He would have better luck and a hell of a lot more entertainment just dropping $15k into a slot machine.
Holiday will get a big bump in mins this coming season at backup pg, so he'll have an opportunity to prove himself. I'm a Pacers fan so hopefully the value of that card skyrockets!
suup packman,i think your favorites r saquon barkley optic purple rated rookie auro/35, baker mayfield select rpa 6/23 ,mo bamba prizm red shimmer/7 , n from packs in paradise I would say the Collin Sexton jojo/25prizm!!!!
I’ve been in a few groups that have gone through cases of these. And one group refuses to break it anymore. The quality of the jerseys and sticker autos for the price point is sickening. Any boxes you have left I would sell
Thank you for the video !! I am just getting back into the basketball card collecting game with my 4 year old son.... something I did with my dad. I am trying to get some boxes of whatever cards but the budget is tight. You are giving me something to look forward to when I can afford boxes!
I wouldnt buy these boxes if i had millions of dollars. Theyre literally the biggest ripoff on the market. If you have money, just buy the cards you WANT on EBAY. Or your best bang for your buck is to buy the panini box sets when they drop. Grab like 10 of them. Sell 5 of the at over double the price on ebay, then open the other 5. Way more fun, better chance to get great cards for low money, and it keeps that wallet happy.
Pete Hagado Uhhhhh the man was averaging 23 24 ppg before the coronavirus, thats almost superstar stuff, he is too underrated coming from a fan of him since his second year
Open up some packs of 1961 Fleer basketball. That would be a lot more exciting to pull out a perfectly centered mint Wilt Chamberlain or Jerry West rookie card
hey I had a question about a card i have i think i asked you before but forget but its the court kings trae young rookie level 3 card I always see it for sale with the courtkings logo being gold and the one I have is silver. were there less out there where the logo is silver and was that a special release if you have know?
I always enjoy your videos....The intensity is turned up due to the outlandish pricing on the product .....My take on it is that Panini continues to put out skyrocket priced product with the chance of getting a couple of Big name RPA’s and a possible shot at a Logoman....But do we really want a Reggie Jackson Logoman?? The stuff is loaded with Various size napkin cards....Sticker autos and a slew of Old Timer Scrub autographs that I don’t want....I am glad I pre ordered Spectra at 280.00 per box and I will have fun with that....I am sure there will be plenty of Leftover sticker autos to glue on those cards as well...Looking forward to better products in the future.....
0:11 you said that u ripped a 400 dollar immaculate football and said that was one of the most expensive thing you ripped Now that’s like a average of a blaster box 🤣
Very Exciting Video ! You did good , seemed to be quite calm for a Exquisite Box with lots of SPs and Usp's like that 1/1 Plate & Holiday ! 6/20 & will go up in value . Cant wait for all the new 2021/ Panini Variety of New Collections . Keep ripping @packman
What's the best way to get my hands on any FOTL boxes?? Everything is new one is coming out i hear about it too late & I think panini doesn't have the app anymore.
This is my favorite video on your channel packman I have been a subscriber for awhile and love your videos I’ve been collecting for awhile too and you helped influence it 🔥🔥
This product is a let down every single time I watch it being opened. Best case scenario i've seen is someone getting close to making there money back. The cards are really nice and all but putting /99 Hits in a product this expensive is kind of underwhelming.
So, for the record, once the 1/1s are removed and publicly known, do the prices drop from the series as the most expensive rare cards are no longer available?
"bought two on release day and you're now selling them" damn with those price increases you're in the money for sure. going to fund some nice box breaks.
I'm watching videos of you opening up cards like my grand nieces watch videos of Minecraft... lol I really enjoy watching your videos thank you very much
Whew crazy price on this stuff. I salute you for taking the jump man most of us can't or wouldn't give NT a shot. No joke that's my rent, utilities, car payment all together. I'll just have to live vicariously through you lol. If this stuff is going for $2500 I can't imagine what Flawless would bring.
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Haha nobody cares that was a terrible joke
high end boxes are always btte to flip 3 years later if they have a hot rookie. You a much braver man than me.
So you changed the name of the video to up the views because you lost
You got 3 hits not 9..
Yes that deAaron fox was a hit
Guys, don't give thumbs down because you don't like the pulls. That's not Packman's fault. He's opening things that many of us cannot afford so that we can get a glimpse as to what it offers. He did that well.
Thanks! It’s all good!
Shut up tool he stinks and so do you thumbs down to you
The guy took 4 minutes to get started!!! I hate box breakers...they think we actually care to hear them speak...we came to see the cards...get the fuck to it already!!!! Fuckin geeks
Packman Thanks for opening.
@@philmiyagi522 damn no one loves you
Turned $2600 into $400. RIP
$200
The holiday is looking like at least 450-500 from what I see so far but yea still not too good
200 at best
$400... more like $200... $250 max.
Not even 400
that is precisely my issue with panini, aint nobody paying 2500 to get charlie ward auto's... like the dude never even averaged over 9 points per game for a season
Yea too many small names
ah that made me laugh cuz its so true
BUT: Charlie Ward was on-card and strictly limited to only 99.... oh my...
I know Charlie wards son we used to go to the same school
Heisman trophy winner tho :)
Wow, so painful to watch. Kept waiting for the monster hit to show up, but it never did. Thanks for the vid!
Yea oh well. It was fun to rip! Thanks for watching!
This Holiday is legit not a bad pull. Imagine how many people did pull nothing from a regular NT Box for wich they paied way more. I know this is FOTL. But even tho it's Holiday. The look of the card itself is top! And the patch is one of the sickest o've seen in all NT this year
The thing for me is it really isn’t about making money or making money back on these boxes. If you ever get the chance, they are legit tons of fun to break. Not to mention you go on an emotional roller coaster on each card.
Think about this: we all buy hobby boxes. How often do you come close to making money back on them? If I buy a hobby boy for $150 I know I’m usually down $125 buy the time I finish opening packs.
Again, not always about making money. It’s just fun to break and if you do get that giant hit, ohhhh look out lol
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@@dan-b-gone6557I wish hobby boxes were $150! 😂😂😂
Next video:opening dollar tree packs. Haha
Pat hey don’t hate my bro don’t even collect cards I spent $20 and only got a trey young rookie.My bro spent $10 and pulled a yellow rated rookie Luca Donruss dollar tree pack ls are legit
@@eskimojoe6564 i agree 100% bro.... ill take a $50-$75 Luka from a buck tree pack ANY day of the WEEK !!!
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Hahaah yea we broke now lol so no More breaks 😂 jkjk
Thats shit is funny cause I am broke and I buy cards at dollar tree! Lol 😆
For that price i'd want a 0/0
Me too
NT wow! It was a little disappointing that no huge names were in that box. Prices are just beyond insane lol! Thanks for ripping it for us, just wish you pulled a huge card.
Thanks a lot! I wish that too but I still had fun!
ant is nice..
This is no longer a hobby or considered collecting. This is straight up gambling. The hobby died as soon as the started cutting up relics and putting them on cards.
Hobby has changed a lot
Best comment finally someone sees it clearly. Its pure gambling now
Gambling is fun
@@nzbegone5419 NOT WHEN U LOSE MONEY ITS NEVER GOOD TO GAMBLE YOU'LL LOSE MONEY WHAT'S FUN ABOUT THAT
It is gambling ugh
$4,999.+ per case? Wow! Next time buy a PSA 9 Jordan rookie.
Costs more than that for a case
For a set like this sticker autos are just laughable. On card autos, game-used patches and at least one big name should be a minimum in this set
For real man...insanely high price for the quality of stuff you get. Panini has officially lost their minds.
its rip off
I agree 100%
For all the suckers and desperates!
Which is what the card companies pray on!
The value for price compared to quality is laughable!
100% agreed.
Crazy how old this video is but it seems like these cards were out just yesterday
for that price I think all the auto's should be on card....stickers just shouldn't be in the highest end products.
I agree
For THAT price, you should be GUARANTEED at LEAST ONE card that is worth 500$. If not, then its literally a waste of money. I remember back in the day, you could spend 20$ for a card that was already graded by Beckett and Guaranteed a 9 or a 10. So spending that 20$ you were pretty damn sure to get your money back and THEN some if you sold the card. People were getting 10 grade Kobe rookies/ Lebron rookies/ I got a peyton manning rookie graded 9 ....all for 20 fukn dollars... that was literally the best deal I ever came across... now people paying 1000$ + for a pack of card you MIGHT BARELY get your money back on? The card collecting scene is totally fucked now... I just stick to basic panini prizm packs and I always end up with good shit.
Thanks for opening stuff that I wouldn’t ever pay for! Like you said I rather buy singles! Keep up the great work
Thanks a lot!
best line, "ohh this is a cute little box" :) Keep rippin' man!
Hahaha thanks!
Gotta risk it for the biscuit. I salute u for going for it!!
I was blessed with this third box so I had to do it for the channel!
Well don't be too disappointed, because just about every box break I'm seeing is completely underwhelming. Legit the biggest DOGSHIT OVERPRICED PRODUCT IVE EVER SEEN. Not worth $1000 a box in any universe. Hooray for sticker autos & old-time players that were good, but not stars. If you don't get a big RPA you're losing a lot of money in EVERY BOX.
That’s the truth. But everyone wants the top rpas cuz they’re big money
You should get them graded 100%. It increases value and protects the cards.
👍🏼👍🏼
Holy they're going for 2,500 that's Flawless price.
Yup it’s nuts
I think ChrisG got 2 of them and flipped them.
Me watching in 2021: “Ha! I payed that for a pack!”
I loved this opening!
I just got 2 FOTL in today as well
Unfortunately I don't have the balls to open either
Hahaha I was only expecting 2 so I said F it and ripped this third one
Don't!!!
I can barley open a lower end hobby box. This is mind blowing.
Haha yea it was crazy lol
Absolutely the biggest L I’ve seen in a minute. A bunch of $20 relics and a couple $5 autos and a Aaron Holiday RPA LMFAOOO
Yea big oof. The holiday should make some $ back tho
15k, every card should at the very least be a patch auto.
Thanks for opening one man. I wouldn't be able to do that lol. Sell sell sell, vacation vacation vacation.🤣
Haha a vacation sounds amazing rn!!
Sean Elliot was a 2 time all star averaging 20 ppg in prime and more than 14 in his career
Big ups to you on breaking this box! I get nervous breaking a $50 Star Wars box lmao
Haha gotta risk it for the biscuit! I haven’t ripped any Star Wars since rogue one
Same with a 60$ hobby box 😂
The best way to bust that stuff is buy the case . Nothing is guaranteed but you are most likely going to get one or two really high end ones.
Yea that’s why having 2 more sucks haah
That Mark Jackson is a whopping 2.00 atm on eBay. Finding that in a 2500$+ box shouldn't be possible honestly. Charlie Ward, 13$. Sean Elliot like 10$. De'aaron fox 20$
Even that AD piece I see similar for 20$. Yikes
The value of those cards is never even remotely close to what these boxes are selling for. What are the odds of getting any kind of return at all on a $15,000 box of random cardboard? He would have better luck and a hell of a lot more entertainment just dropping $15k into a slot machine.
@@darklordojeda he spent $700 on the packs
Thanks for ripping this for us giving us a first hand look at these cards.
“Aww that’s a cute little box” 😂
😂
NT is the perfect break product the price per box is insane
The srp is 750 but the resale prices are nuts
Holiday will get a big bump in mins this coming season at backup pg, so he'll have an opportunity to prove himself. I'm a Pacers fan so hopefully the value of that card skyrockets!
I hope so!
Me: *gets one in one* OMG IM BOUTTA PASS OUT NO WAY
Pack man: pretty nice
😂👍🏼
suup packman,i think your favorites r saquon barkley optic purple rated rookie auro/35, baker mayfield select rpa 6/23 ,mo bamba prizm red shimmer/7 , n from packs in paradise I would say the Collin Sexton jojo/25prizm!!!!
Tough box but it happens...prices for these are ridiculous! Good luck if you open the others!!
I know, those prices better go down lol
They are! And they’ll only go up!
I’ve been in a few groups that have gone through cases of these. And one group refuses to break it anymore. The quality of the jerseys and sticker autos for the price point is sickening. Any boxes you have left I would sell
where do you buy and find packs or boxes what websites do you purchase them from thanks I luv ur content its amazing
Thanks! I get my stuff from my local shops and online
Even though it wasn't a great box, personally I think Aaron Holiday has a lot of potential.
I think he’s solid. I need to see more
His career averages so far 8 pts, 2 rebs, 2 asts/game 👍
this is probably the best box you can get of all time
national treasures 2018-19 FOTL
Thank you for the video !! I am just getting back into the basketball card collecting game with my 4 year old son.... something I did with my dad. I am trying to get some boxes of whatever cards but the budget is tight.
You are giving me something to look forward to when I can afford boxes!
Np! Good luck when you start breaking!
I wouldnt buy these boxes if i had millions of dollars. Theyre literally the biggest ripoff on the market. If you have money, just buy the cards you WANT on EBAY. Or your best bang for your buck is to buy the panini box sets when they drop. Grab like 10 of them. Sell 5 of the at over double the price on ebay, then open the other 5. Way more fun, better chance to get great cards for low money, and it keeps that wallet happy.
Man ur starting to grow pretty fast! Thanks for all of the amazing vids.
Thank you for watching!
Imagine the return today!!! this box is like $35K!!!
Is it that much now??!!
On the bright side this became your most popular video
True that haha
beautiful cards and box.....just no way I could lay down 750 for that.....I wouldn't even do 350....but nice cards
I’d do 750 and 350 cuz the big hits go for thousands
And now think about today’s prices, Daniel 😂😂. Costs wayyy more since Covid 😂😂
Ouch you took a bath on these but it’s fun to open and too watch! Wondering what you did with the other two boxes?
Sold those after ripping this one haha
Who’s watching after Wiggins is now playing like a #1 overall pick 😂
He’s been balling!
For sure
Nice vid btw it’s so cool that you open these boxes even though you could have turned it into a profit
Wiggins playing like a number #1 draft pick don't know who you're watching
Pete Hagado Uhhhhh the man was averaging 23 24 ppg before the coronavirus, thats almost superstar stuff, he is too underrated coming from a fan of him since his second year
Takes guts to open these boxes, tough luck. Gotta take chances in life
Facts!
That’s a very nice box you’ve purchased.
👍🏼
Open up some packs of 1961 Fleer basketball. That would be a lot more exciting to pull out a perfectly centered mint Wilt Chamberlain or Jerry West rookie card
Wow I actually feel bad for ya man. Totally underwhelming but that's part of the game.
Yup oh well
hey I had a question about a card i have i think i asked you before but forget but its the court kings trae young rookie level 3 card I always see it for sale with the courtkings logo being gold and the one I have is silver. were there less out there where the logo is silver and was that a special release if you have know?
One is retail and one is hobby I think
@@PackmanCards ok thank you appreciate you always answering back your a good guy thanks again
Just started watching your channel. Can you imagine the resell on this box today or how much a group break would be?
I recently saw one sell for 23k 😳
So to get stuff at the cheapest we have to get it from like panini when it first comes out ? Or else the price will be higher on sites right ?
Correct
Sheeeeeeeshhh, gonna be a hard pass on NT from me. Thanks for breaking this, though.
Yea big hit or miss... Thanks for watching!
I thought the Rodney Hood was a slap in the face and then you pulled the holiday lol
the quality of ur vids are really good, besides the nasty hits!!
Thanks!
I always enjoy your videos....The intensity is turned up due to the outlandish pricing on the product .....My take on it is that Panini continues to put out skyrocket priced product with the chance of getting a couple of Big name RPA’s and a possible shot at a Logoman....But do we really want a Reggie Jackson Logoman?? The stuff is loaded with Various size napkin cards....Sticker autos and a slew of Old Timer Scrub autographs that I don’t want....I am glad I pre ordered Spectra at 280.00 per box and I will have fun with that....I am sure there will be plenty of Leftover sticker autos to glue on those cards as well...Looking forward to better products in the future.....
0:11 you said that u ripped a 400 dollar immaculate football and said that was one of the most expensive thing you ripped
Now that’s like a average of a blaster box 🤣
Very Exciting Video ! You did good , seemed to be quite calm for a Exquisite Box with lots of SPs and Usp's like that 1/1 Plate & Holiday ! 6/20 & will go up in value . Cant wait for all the new 2021/ Panini Variety of New Collections . Keep ripping @packman
Sorry about that box bro, nice bid keep em coming
Thanks a lot!
What's the best way to get my hands on any FOTL boxes?? Everything is new one is coming out i hear about it too late & I think panini doesn't have the app anymore.
I’d follow them on social media and get their emails cuz they give all the info. All the apps are in one app now
So many Rain Man vibes from this guy's videos. Is he on the spectrum?
He fucking sucks
That dearon fox is actually rly good
It’s nice!
How much for the spurs cardz
Sorry they’re sold
15 gs for cards dam. Pac man is balling. I have a hard time paying 30 for a blaster lol.
This is my favorite video on your channel packman I have been a subscriber for awhile and love your videos I’ve been collecting for awhile too and you helped influence it 🔥🔥
I want in on the break
Sorry it’s closed!
You’re dope packman really enjoy the content
Thanks a lot!
This product is a let down every single time I watch it being opened. Best case scenario i've seen is someone getting close to making there money back. The cards are really nice and all but putting /99 Hits in a product this expensive is kind of underwhelming.
Yea it definitely is. Panini let us down
So, for the record, once the 1/1s are removed and publicly known, do the prices drop from the series as the most expensive rare cards are no longer available?
Very rough box. Thanks for sharing though
Can’t win em all! Thanks for watching!
Man you got sum serious balls for rippin that box.Big time money spent on those just for your viewers.You deserve way more subs my friend.
Haha thanks!
Definitely can't justify it, thank you panini for ruining autograph values
These are awesome to watch you open way out of my price range but maybe one day
Damn. I would be sick spending $750 for those “hits”. But that’s collecting.
What’s crazy is I pretty much made my 750 back with the cards
My new favorite channel keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot!!!
And that, kids, is why you don’t spend $2500 on a box of cards :)
Better luck next time.
Facts haha
Is their a specific name or company that produces the thick cards? i saw WWE had some and was interested, thanks.
Cant win them all.. all the cases I have seen have been brutal...I would sell them
Yea I’ll sell the other two
Luv your videos bro, just curious how much is NT cost right now, cuz luka is playing like a god right now:D
Thanks! This box is like 5-6k rn lol it’s crazy
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I was pulling for you to pull a monster! It would scare me to break open a NT box! Thank you for opening it!
I was terrified haha
This isn’t worth it and I say it to myself every time I watch someone open this box
More like when someone opens any box lol. Nothing’s worth it anymore tbh
"bought two on release day and you're now selling them"
damn with those price increases you're in the money for sure. going to fund some nice box breaks.
Absolutely!!! Can’t wait to sell the others
Panini has ruined the sport card collecting hobby they are worse than drug dealers.
Yea they’re pretty bad
At least with drugs you know your getting what you paid for. With panini you pay $400 for a box of garbage.
@@Decade_of_the_Dawg This is all brands, not just Panini, You almost never will receive more value than you paid.
Very true put people keep buying it
Where do you find these FOTL boxes? Everytime I check Panini's website for FOTL products it says there are none available.
There isnt one card in the whole set worth a damn
There’s several actually that sell for several thousand plus
I'm watching videos of you opening up cards like my grand nieces watch videos of Minecraft... lol I really enjoy watching your videos thank you very much
Thanks for watching!
Big oof for the bank account. 😬
BIG
My guy I want to get there when my subscribers go up! Keep killin it
Sorry dude😿
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Bro you were at 10k subs. You have grown so much. Congrats 🎉
Thanks!!
Whew crazy price on this stuff. I salute you for taking the jump man most of us can't or wouldn't give NT a shot. No joke that's my rent, utilities, car payment all together. I'll just have to live vicariously through you lol. If this stuff is going for $2500 I can't imagine what Flawless would bring.
Yea haha it’s nuts. I got blessed with this box so I decided to share it with you guys!
hi! when do these FOTL NT boxes usually drops?? Thanks in advance. Hope i can buy 1 retail
A week or two before the release. Panini tells you when
Nice break. You’ve gotta try it at some point, but this wasn’t the box. The Fox is nice,
Thanks! Win some lose some!
You will have a breakers mat one day you’ll love it
You are my fav RUclipsr pack an keep it up
Thanks! ❤️
Tbh they look way better than all the years
Yea I liked this year a lot
Luv ur videos.that boxes wasn't good at all but im pretty sure u have a luka rpa in one of ur other boxes
Thanks! If I do, that’s be amazing
Charlie ward signs for free thru the mail. Bummed for you on that box.
Yea haha not the best