I feel like out of all of the mysteries in the video that one didn’t have any intention behind it. Just an easter egg. Maybe to indicate the fact that they made the hd remake for the wii u around the same time as wind waker
I pretty sure they had the whole story thought out since the 80's, boys. 😜 The lore of Legend of Zelda is neither convoluted or contradictory: it is exactly what it is supposed to be 😆
two more interesting things about the song of storms 1: it is a piece of music where the end is the beginning 2: it is constructed to pair with waltz dances where typically two people join and dance in a circle both of these things are aspects that reflect the shape and nature of hurricanes
Believe it or not, the toilet hand is a monster from Japanese folk tales! I think it might be called a kurote. It does live down the toilet and it belongs to a rather dangerous monster!
SongoftheLute yep, They kill you in different ways depending on what color you say, they give you 2 options red or blue, you can confuse them by saying a certain color, but I can’t remember what color that is.
Now that Tears of the kingdom is out, I believe this would be the best time to revisit the Zonai ruins mystery, as we have MUCH more information on the zonai as a whole!
Yet we still don't know why the Zonai disappeared. I mean how does an immensely advanced civilization just disappear like that? Was there a fierce war? Did an event of catastrophic level drop their numbers severely? Or did they just leave the world and only select few decide to stay?
@@superaleksibros2 Its loosely explained in one of the teardrop cutscenes in Totk. Those cutscenes also explain how the the dragons came to be, and there are theories that the 3 dragons in botw/totk are actually other Zonai Sages that swallowed their sacred stones to serve as guardians of their domains and springs eternally.
Maybe Snowpeak Mansion is where Zelda and Impa ran away to in OOT, that’s why it’s in a remote place, has a lot of the royal family symbols, and why there’s a lot of armor (for guards that protected the mansion)
@@chelsealopez8641 I was going to correct you, but you are right. To clarify to others, the events of OoT belong to the Adult Timeline UNTIL, the end of Ocarina of time, when young link warns Princess Zelda about the upcoming betrayal of Ganondorf, thus giving him the Ocarina and parting to search for Navi. In Children Timeline Ganondorf never attacked the Kingdom, so Zelda and Impa did not have the necessity to hide, and Ganondorf was imprisoned and executed as we saw in TP. Still, that fact does not exclude that the building already existed in OoT era, yet unused.
The Song of Storms is an infinitely recursive Stable Time Loop. The man teaches it to Link so that Link can teach it to him for him to in turn teach it to Link. It exists as a temporal recursion with no beginning or end.
it could've been another kid with an ocarina who first played it but with time travel, link learned it and taught it to the man before the ocarina kid, therefore creating the loop
The guy would’ve eventually figured it out himself, played it, realized it made the windmill turn and then adult link asking about it would make the player go back in time and teach the guy the song before he ever knew it, then that’s where the “kid with the ocarina” story started. It all came from one reality where he taught himself the song
The Lizalphos armor in the Mansion connects to a fan theory that I haven't seen get a lot of traction, but that I think has a fair bit of merit. That "monsters" (Lizalphos, moblins, bokoblins, lynels etc.) aren't actually inherently evil creatures, and have thoughts and feelings much like the more respected races of Hyrule. They clearly make clothes and weapons, speak to each other, and have sort of a basic culture. This is best seen in BotW, but you get hints in other games. It might not be a stretch to imagine that these "lesser races" of Hyrule were once subjugated and used by the higher races, and might have sold their very beings to Ganon in exchange for false promises of freedom and revenge. That would at least explain why a Hylian fortress would have Lizalphos armor, and why numerous locations in BotW are guarded by "monsters" that reasonably have no right being used as guardians in man-made structures.
Calamity Ganon’s blood moon spawns them tho. The trope of morally grey/relatable villains is usually interesting, imo. In Japanese culture however, stories of evil entities are usually just inherently evil at their core - no redemption, just purely bad from day one. If I had to guess, I’d say that despite their characteristics, these monsters are just the same. Speaking of relatable enemies, something I’d be interested in seeing personally is potentially seeing Ganon without the Triforce of power. In the same way Link and Zelda have had their respective Triforce powers awakening over the spans of previous games, imagine seeing that happening to Ganon. Being a regular albeit rare male Gerudo, gradually corrupted by power as the game’s story progresses could super cool/creepy to watch, imo. :)
This theory doesn’t make much sense, but what if the image of Link fighting a bird is actually Link saving his Loftwing at the start of Skyward Sword. Perhaps Demise saw that as the moment the hero started his journey, so if that moment didn’t happen, he wouldn’t have been stopped. He then engraved it on his armor as Ganondorf to remember that fateful moment.
I suspect that the engraving on Ganondorf's armor was simply a design made up by one of the artists working on the remaster, and nothing more. Just like the one depicting Link and the bird man in Castle Town.
@@HerrZeus I mean, there's another engraving added in the HD remaster that seemed significant, but was then discovered to just be the personal touch of one of the artists at Tantalus. I don't see any reason to believe the one on Ganondorf's armor isn't another example.
Twilight princess was the first Zelda I obsessed over, it still feels so mysterious and amazing.. it's been about 10 years since I played it. I think it's time to go back
It was the first Zelda game I ever played, actually! For some reason before that, growing up, I had never played ANY of the others as I was very sheltered so I wasn’t aware of a lot of popular things, but also didn’t have any gaming systems for awhile besides a DS. I adored it so much when I got TP that I played a bunch of the others as soon as I could 💖 I remember I had a huge crush on Zelda when I played it, one of the first times I had an actual crush on a girl character ☺️ before I later realized I’m bi. That game still remains my favorite along w Ocarina of Time!!
Doesn't make sense to me -Ganon is from Gerudo -Sheikas were there when Hylia was still a god (Zelda before she lost her divinity) and she is a Sheika herself (Sheik) -Link isn't from Zonai. The games and manuals never mentioned him being there so it just doesn't make Sense
@@levyata8964 that's true, but the hero from the hero's legend shown on the tapestry when you speak to kass in botw, shows the hero with red headdress on, much like the zonai helm. This could indicate a connection?
Zelda was Sheik, and is tied to the triforce of wisdom... Ganon is gerudo, and is tied to the triforce of power... Link has the whole red head dress theory going around with the barbarian armor and the ancient hero wearing a red head dress found in the zonai barbarian armor and what not... kinda makes sense...
The song of storms being a time paradox is actually a hint of where it comes from. Its invention is caused by the Goddess of Time, in order to allow her hero to fulfill his task.
It’s likely that the song of storms is part of a stable time loop, meaning learning that song is an inevitable point in time, no matter what. It’s fairly similar to what I believe is called the Bootstrap Paradox
I don't think it's a coincidence, I think the Song of Storms is a little reference to the bootstrap paradox idea. The writers were possibly showing us through a joke that they're aware of the inherent problems in time travel-fiction. It will never be fully resolved because this is a fantasy series and not sci-fi (and because it can't be resolved, it's a paradox).
"Wait a moment... where did you learn the Song of Storms?" "Someone played it to you earlier." "But that someone was me!" "I know!" "But where did I learn it?" "From me!" "Yes, but where did you learn it?" "Someone played it to you earlier." "But that someone was me!" "I know!" "But where did I learn it?" "From me!" "Yes, but where did you learn it?" "Someone played it to you earlier." *_"BUT THAT SOME-"_*
Paradoxes are fun because if you think of it in a non-linear loop like that you'll go mad. If you think of it in a linear timeline way, like which point comes first on a line, it's a lot easier. That's the inherent problem with being the time traveller, your timeline is different from everyone else's. Line 1: World timeline. A stranger appears and teaches a song to a man in a windmill, speeding things up and draining the well. Seven years later the windmill man teaches that song to a stranger. Line 2: Personal Timeline (mental flow, the order of events as you experience the in the game) You go to a grumpy man in a windmill and learn a song. You then travel and teach the song to a happy man in a windmill, which upsets him. Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey.
or since you learn (or hear) the song itself the first time in the future, why couldn't it be another child with an ocarina that tought him the song. why does it have to be Link?
supersonic I just accepted the paradox as an aspect of time travel since the spirit temple is the similar. You go there and learn the warp song as an adult then beat it as a child.
My top mystery: In Majora’s Mask, how does the postman deliver a letter to a missing person (Kafei) the next day? If someone knows his address, they could find him.
@@sentient07 I dont think the postman knows. Everyone knew Kafei as an adult. The only person who knows about Kafei is the Curiosity Shop owner. The hideout Kafei is in is right behind the Curiosity Shop. I'd say that's the address for the Curiosity Shop owner.
@@josebuenaventura1558 see the weird thing is that nobody recognizes Kafei with the Keaton mask on, despite Kafei having literally the most unique haircut in Termina and it's extremely recognizable
I mean not much of a mystery. You can trigger a conversation between Anju and the postman where she's grilling him for the address but he won't give it up because he takes his job seriously.
@@thecraigadile1494 I've actually found an image perhaps linking the Zonai and the trailer. It's not much, but it's two pillars, one with the red used in the trailer, and another withe blue. The blue has an eye on it, and I can't really tell what's on the red one.
@@thecraigadile1494 the eye is blue and strongly resembles the sheikah, even though it's zonai architecture. This kinds confirms the theory the sheikah and zonai are linked, as many have said.
It would be cool, but keep in mind botw takes place like a bajillion years after all the events of TP, and well every other LoZ game. I mean yeah maybe the shiekah built the guardians before all those games, closer to the events of skyward sword, and everything between that and BotW is just middle ground, but still after even just a thousand years there wouldn't be anything left of the mansion spare some scattered rotten wood and shards of metal.
I think the reason why there's armor like from the mini boss is because it could have been actually a lizard army because one in breath of the wild there are lizards in the cold wintery places so it could have been possible the fortress was actually home to some kind of advance lizard soldiers
@@sagehanson190 Well, if there's a OoT reference (Ranch Ruins), why can't there be a TP reference when TP happened after OoT. Also, the guardians were made after all the other games because Ganon was sealed the entire time between when he was sealed with the help of the Sheikah tech and the great calamity.
Honestly, I love listening to the lost woods theme from Twilight Princess. It’s so relaxing in a tired way, and the notes give the listener this melancholy feeling. The mystery with the skull kid summoning the puppets in the similar sections of the forest is mysterious, and I always remember my childhood when I played this game with my father.
I've always wondered about the Happy Mask Salesmen, specifically in Majora's Mask, where he seems to know more about the fate of the Moon falling, saying he has to leave in 3 days time before the end of the world.
He wears a purple cloth and golden ornaments. Kinda like the Garo Master. Maybe he's a Garo ? They were sent to spie upon the Ikanians which were apparently trying to penetrate the Stone Tower. Maybe they were guarding the Seal of Majora ?
Except you encounter Garo spirits in the game, and they don't seem worried about the mask or anything related. It's worth noting that Shigeru Miyamoto was specifically asked about the Happy Mask Salesman, and he might as well have said that it's his self insert. Look at a photo of each of them smiling and tell us what you think.
He obviously knows although how is never explained. He's a quasi godly being that carried the remains of a demon. There are many mysteries with that character but they may be explained with "It's just a Miyamoto self insert". There are many many mysteries with Majora's Mask's world left unexplained.
Ikr? Me too! But I think talking about the salesmen would be too long for this video, because It's so mysterious and you can analyze alot. It should be a separate video
I really loved the design to snowpeak, i love how you could escape to the warmth of the cabin, make some soup and go back to brave the cold dangers of the courthouse.
To be fair, just because his sword is drawn and facing the bird, it doesn't mean he's fighting it. It could just be attractive posing, hence Loftwing makes sense. If so, it being on Ganondorf's armour could be a reminder from his original incarnation, Demise, to never forget the aspect who defeated him.
Hearing about the Song of Storms paradox and Snowpeak Ruins made me wish VortexxyGaming was still around. It's great that the RUclips Zelda-theory community has continued to go strong.
I just played the Snowpeak Mansion for the first time last week! (owned the game 3 years now, but didn't get this far until now). I seriously thought the soup he was preparing was to put Link in, an ironically Link was being told by the wife to get the ingredients (pumpkin, cheese) for the soup they planned to boil him alive in, and Link would have to fight back. Wasn't sure though why they would be trying to lure him to the bedroom though for them to finally finish the deed. Fortunately that wasn't the case (yet it is still a yeti you must fight), as that would make sled racing with them a bit awkward later! lol
Pretty sure the mansion was owned by Ashei's family I want to say she mentions something about it in the game she wields a rapier and she is part of the questline for the mansion
That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think of it. She talks about snow and the peaks when you meet her, and then she has that weird yeti, mask thing. Also she uses a rapier, and she learned it from her father, probably her family was into dueling or something, ense the crest
If I had to guess, it was probably an outpost created by the royal family, and managed by the knights or Hyrule, probably with Ashei family, or at least a member of it in charge. If I had to guess, its propose was to act as a secure base where to move the royal family in case Hyrule castle became an unsafe or fell to enemy forces. It wasn't well known, as shown by Ashei not knowing about it, its location, hard to access location, and highly defensive location, makes it perfect as a secret base to secure or command a war. It was probably used to protect the royal family after the Gerudo attack to Hyrule castle in the child timeline, and probably attacked at some point before Ganondorf troops fell, and was abandon after the war ended because it either was the repair/maintenance cost was too great or the Knights suffered too many loses to be capable of wasting many operatives in an outpost in the middle of nowhere, causing it to be left and eventually forgotten.
Maybe it's a Loftwing, perhaps showing the downfall of the era of Hylians living in the skies, breaking off their ties with the big birds and moving properly to the ground
I was thinking the same thing! What if it was a loftwing and they went against the people for leaving the sky and as punishment for attacking the hylians the gods turned the loftwings into cuccos. But they still get angry sometimes when attacked by Link and they go crazy and swarm him?
I love the mystery about that mansion in Twilight Princess. It makes you wonder if at one point the Lizalfos were another allied kingdom of Hyrule, like the Zora, Kokiri, or Goron.
One of my personal favorite mysteries was the blacksmith's well in Link to the Past. Jumping into the well takes you to what looks like a little shrine with a bowl held out. If you sprinkle magic powder into it it will summon a little bat creature who talks tough but will double your magic meter. The design and architecture of the shrine though are unlike anything anywhere else in either the light and dark world and the bat creature never show up again. Always made me wonder who it was and how it got sealed up down there.
maybe the depiction on Ganondorf's armor is Link fighting a Phoenix? representing how Demise will continually come back as Ganon to fight the hero? @Zeltik
It would more likely be a Roc then a phoenix, as the Zelda games are littered with Roc's Feathers and a few Roc's Capes. As well Helmaroc isn't the only giant bird you face in the games, at least one other comes to mind as the boss for the Eagles Tower in Link's Awakening, and think of the name Helmaroc as Helmet Roc. Take all that in with Roc of myth not being fairly friendly creatures, while Phoenixes are more likely to run from people that would pose a danger, but flock to gentle/kind souls in myth.
@@truekurayami if you look at the shield in the depiction it looks exactly like the shield from wind waker so I believe it is actually depicting the fight between the helmaroc King and Link
There is also a painting of Rauru the sage of light, which if I remember correctly, Hyrule Historia points out that the Snowpeak Mansion originally belonged to him and he gave it to the Knights of Hyrule to use as a training grounds and last defense against Ganondorf should he return
Guru-Guru: _"I'll never forget the song that kid played in my windmill! The one that I've been sitting here and playing on my gramophone, non-stop, for over seven years now. Curse that child for disrupting the windmill by playing a song that had hitherto been completely unknown to me, somehow...! Grr... 😤"_ (continue to play song)
I think it's supposed to be that the first time Link enters is as an adult, but it doesn't explain why he plays the song in the past. Frankly, the whole thing gives me headaches, and thinking about it doesn't help.
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The Song of Storms paradox is all about destiny and self-fulfilling prophecy. The hero of time was destined to teach the song to the windmill man, so in the future, the windmill man already knew the song, which then allowed the hero to travel back in time to teach it to him to ensure he learned it in the future. it would be like if you were supposed to invent a new type of lighter. You find out in the future about this cool lighter that revolutionized the lighter industry, find out how it works, and then take the design back to the past to fulfill the future you've already seen.
I'd love to have a Botw-stylied game set during that ancient period before Hyrule was ever a thing, to explore the untapped mystery of ancient civilizations, and to see a world that was truly primal and not fully tamed, despite the empire they once had... To truly become as one with the Wild more than even Botw ever did...
I actually had a Lorule theory before LBW came out. When Link wishes on the Triforce at the end of LTTP, the dark world is recreated to reflect what's in his heart: a better light world. People that were dead come back to life, and peace returns to the kingdom. But what happens to the original light world? Well, the master sword and the triforce no longer exists in its realm, so there's no essence of divinity remaining in that dimension. I always figured that Lorule was just the old light world, eons later, and it's all in decay. Edit: I was going to leave it at that, but I think that further explains your mystery. In LTTP, travelers could only go from the light world to the dark world. There was no way back without the magic mirror. That rift that allowed Yuga to get to the new light world could have been related to the same magic that allowed the dimensional travel in LTTP. Yuga being a sorcerer very likely could have created a way to travel both ways like the mirror did. Either that, or the decay of Lorule weakened the barrier between worlds and Yuga was able to take advantage of that.
On Ganondorf's armor, the bird could also be the Thunderbird from Zelda 2, but, again, that's in a different timeline. But Helmaroc King makes sense. Wind Waker HD came out on the same system so it could just be an easter egg.
@@samuelhatlestad6676 There is also the giant bird in Link's Awakening at the end of Eagle Tower, which I can only assume is another Roc or Thunderbird, for the series.
MAD-DOG_JOKEY the timelines are canon. The games even address them. Wind Waker pretty blatantly said the hero never arrived, because that timeline no longer had a hero.
@@coyraig8332 That was more to point out the the different instances of such birds, so it isn't to much of a stretch for one to be seen in a different timeline
I love how interconnected Zelda lore is. I've just recently started BOTW for the first time and I was pleasantly surprised at the references to previous games in one of the cutscenes.
Theory: Lorule's rift was created by Demise, as he used the Lorulian triforce to gain godly powers, saw there was another world, Hyrule, created the rift and poured forth with his army of Demons.
The song of storms is one of my favorite mysteries for it's casual loop. After playing Ocarina of Time I thought, who taught Link the song? And I agree it's a bit satisfying to know that, he knew the song, so he could play the song, so he could be taught the song, so he could play the song. Then learning it in Majora's Mask was interesting, though the game is supposed to take place after the events of Ocarina of Time, and that just opened up more mysteries. Love it.
Legend of Zelda Lore says Snowpeak Mansion was occupied and used by the Knights of Hyrule for training and strategic planning during a war that required the Gorons, Zoras, and Humans to unite to form one army.
That makes sense. If you look around snowpeak Manor you can see portraits of different people, and one I noticed was Queen Rutela the Zora queen you got the armor from.
But against who? The gerudos? Theyre on the other side of the map, and you dont train soldiers far from both theyre home bases and the frontlines, where most would be unable to even traverse (zoras would freeze, gorons would likely be unable to eat due to the rocks being frozen over). Maybe it was a last refuge for the royal family and elite soldiers in case of the kingdom being taken over. Plus, the lizalfos armor is strange. Theyve always been enemies, seemingly ganondorfs minions in some way shape or form. But, it may be simpler. The royal family had both the zonai ruins and snowpeak, as evidenced by the shrine and imagery. Perhaps the zonai WERE lizalfos, as they inhabit the ruins and have carvings of themselves, much like ancient egypt had heiroglyphs picturing humans. Perhaps the lizalfos were once allies, and they stored armor in the cold since lizalfos seem to be able to adapt to the cold (breath of the wild snow lizalfos). Or, they were what the combined armies were fighting, and the armor of high ranking lizalfos were kept as trophies. This would explain why lizalfos seem to be in every region in the games, across all the games, and why the symbols of their empire span the entire kingdom of hyrule.
a theory stated that the gerudos were a very powerful army that ganondorf used to attack Hyrule Castle after OOT link came back as a child and prevented the king's death by telling him of the events of the future. The Zoras and the gorons were allies of the king of Hyrule , so them getting trained at the snowpeak to become more powerful and useful on the frontlines isn't that far off. Also, during that time perhaps the snowpeak area had a warmer climate and so the gorons and the Zoras were capable of traveling from the training base to the frontlines . And after the war ended and the training base wasn't needed anymore it slowly became forgotten, and top of that, the climate started to change drastically
I definitely think the song of storms having no beginning is perfect for a game with a time travel theme. I think they saw an opportunity and made something fun with it. Great video as always! Thank you!
The same curiosity you had for the Snowpeak Mansion I've always had for Ocarina of Time's Forest Temple. It's a dungeon, but designed somewhat like an old mansion and it makes me curious about what it was like when it was newly built, and who inhabited it.
Ganondorf having Link on his armor could be a sign of respect. It's their destiny to do battle and it's likely that ganon has great respect for link, and it would be foolish not to. Link is the only person who can ever stand in his way and defeat him.
I feel like Ganondorf has never really shown respect for Link though outside maybe two or three occasions. In fact he usually looks down on him & disrespects him, because of his own ego and pride. Doesn’t seem like the type of guy that would do that. 😂
8:00 Link was never confirmed to be the "kid" that made the windmill go crazy. It's easy to believe that, but it's just as likely that there was another unseen kid who knew the song, came in, and played the Song of Storms. Maybe they did this before yoing Link arrived and played the song or maybe even after he arrived and caused an even bigger problem. It would be a weird coincidence, but still technically plausible, leaving out the foolish "bootstrap paradox".
@@AtomDarkheart well technically, it could've been another kid that came and played it and when link time traveled, he rewrote the chain of events by teaching it first, thus the loop is born
@Melvil DE CASTRO Actually no, this "Other kid" would have came in either before young Link played the song or after he did causing a bigger ruckus than before. Both theories are highly coincidental, but nonetheless plausible.
Probably because they're linked as probably they were made by the same goddesses: Din, Farore and Nayru. So it wouldn't be strange that the dimensions are linked by the triforce itself and the absence of the second end point made an actual rift in the dimensional tissue. Probably even would have made a terrible disaster happen in Hyrule when Lorule collapsed completely as they seem to be linked in many ways.
I have yet to play Link Between Worlds, but isn't Lorule modeled off of Link to the Past's Dark World? And the game is a direct sequel to LTTP, so I wonder if the rifts might've had anything to do with Link going there.
My favorite mystery of Zelda, How the hell did the champions on Breath of the Wild lose to the blight Gannons? The Linels and Wizrobes was more of a challenge
Here's a theory, Mipha was caught off guard while healing troops Urbosa was helping Zelda stay safe while she got cornered by a bunch of enemies including thunderblight Daruk did not have remote bombs for that phase of the fireblight boss Rivali actually said that he was only defeated because he was winging it so we just have to believe him
Truthfully I could see them getting beat by a linel faster now something that could happen that does make sense is that they was attacked by the blight Gannons using the devine beast against them
@@amandabergsten8918 All of those are plausible except fro Urbosa's. Zelda was with Link when Ganon returned, while Urbosa was in the desert with Narboris. But good thinking.!!
The champions were almost certainly ambushed within their Divine Beasts while preparing to annihilate Ganon. Though all of them were said to be skilled warriors so at first it would seem weird that they’d lose to the Blights simply because they were caught off guard. Until you realized that they also had no weapons. Each champion has their own unique weapon that they’re skilled with, and Link can get each of them in game to use. However it’s who you get them from that matters. You aren’t given them directly from the champions themselves, but rather from the rulers of each respective area as a reward for freeing the Divine Beasts. If the champions had their weapons with them when died inside the Divine Beasts, then they would likely still be there 100 years later, but they aren’t. For this reason I believe that when Ganon reappeared they went to their Divine Beasts unarmed, and to be fair given their roles they had no real reason to prepare for combat. Even if the plan worked they’d be so far from Hyrule Castle that by the time they got there the fight would already be over. If the champions had their weapons I think they could’ve survived the sudden attack, but it seems more likely that they didn’t.
one explanation for the song of storms paradox is to consider a second ocarina user. Where "year 1" is Young link's current year: year 2: kid plays song year 8: adult link learns song year 1: young link plays song triggering the effects a year earlier.
but why need a explanation? its just a stable time loop this happens many times throughout zelda and is a very very common trope of time travel storys. i mean just look up the goron vase in oracle of ages, its just one of many examples just in that one game
You can say the same thing about John Connor in terminator. It’s just a closed loop. The song always exists because young link will play it so future link can learn it. It’s just casuality.
Zonai are probably what people did before Hylia made a push for top dog. It's interesting to think of the story told in Skyward Sword: "... gathered the 5 tribes together..."
I always believed it a given that the Song of Storms would be etched in some tomb in the graveyard, just like the Song of Sun. Since the two musician brothers rest there and both songs were composed by them, Link probably found it around off-screen in the initial time sequence. Then he taught it as an adult to Guru-Guru and etc.
Thank you for making these videos! It inspires me to not only learn more about Hyrule's history and replay the games, but also makes me appreciate fantasy world building so much more. Keep up the good work!
You just blew my mind..... Many Worlds Theory?.... Schrodinger?.... It's definitely A Bootstrap Paradox... I wasn't expecting some hard-core physics ideas in a Zelda game...
The song of storms was actually how I learned about the Bootstrap paradox, I played through it, thought it was cool, and told my mom. She then educated me about time paradoxes.
Maybe at one point there was a random boom of male Gerudo. There were so many that the women began to treat them like any other voe. They got mad and left to create their own tribe and fought against the Gerudo. They could have even been led by the last Ganondorf. The Gerudo were able to get help from the other races and wiped out this new tribe.
That's a castle (designed for war and fortification to hold off invaders) not a pallace (a show of power and beauty, the same place you find Kings and Queens)
Me: Watching video about Zelda This video's notification pops up, *as I'm just happening to be watching that Zelda-related video* Zeltik: No, you watch me for Zelda, remember? Me: Ok. *closes other video for this one.*
I feel like Snowpeak was a place for an order of Hyrulian Knights that has been there for a long long time. They have a chapel, weapons, cannons, and living quarters. The mansion was probably owned by someone with a lot of power as you mention.
One of the people you meet in hyrule town tells you how she use to go there with her father or something like that, the chick you talk to before ypu head out to the mansion itself
@@juniormii Yeah I remember! Ashei I think her name is. I feel like I remember seeing her picture or something like her father's picture in the mansion somewhere
Ok, here's an old theory by Macintyre productions. The Snowpeak ruins were originally constructed by the royal family of Hyrule as a fortress to protect themselves. The ruins are in a remote location and can be easily defended, since there is only one way in and is well stocked with weapons and artillery. The coat of arms seen throughout the ruins could be the sigil of the royal guard since we see the same sigil in Hyrule Castle. The ruins likely served as a fortress where the royal family and their court would hide during times of crisis, such as a war. It is likely that it was used during the Guerodo-Hylian war. While the war rages on, the royal family would be hiding in the fortress, far away from the front and safe if the war ever reached Castle Town. It could be that after the war, the Hylians were so busy with reconstruction that the fortress was abandoned and left to rot. It could also be that, with the Guerodo wiped out, the Hylians no longer saw the need for it, based on the state of Hyrule's military. All the soldiers are cowards, and weren't prepared for the Twilight invasion. It could also explain why we don't see the royal guard, they were likely disbanded after the war.
I believe that the Snowpeak Ruins belonged to the royal family. It's not a fortress or outpost, it's too elaborately decorated and appears to have offered many comforts. It's clear that this was a manor for someone both wealthy and worth protecting. Also, since there are symbols and decorations connected to the royal family, it more than implies that the Snowpeak Ruins were built for them. Perhaps it served as a vacation getaway or second home for the royals during better times.
In the Wind Waker, why does the cabana on Private Oasis have a basement reminiscent of the game's Earth Temple, full of Re-deads, with a triforce treasure chart in it? I've always wondered this.
I agree. Maybe the next game could take place when Calamity Ganon was first resurrected, before the events of Botw. Maybe that could dwell more on the Sheikah and Zonai races. I for one would love to see that, either in the next Zelda game or the one after. It could show Hyrule before it was fully developed and destructed in Botw's events...
Hufflepuff Of Time Branching out on that thought. What if the trailer for the botw sequel is actually... a flashhhh back :;))) to when malice was released? Eh idk pfffft
@@samuelhatlestad6676 Wow, that's creepy that I wrote about botw 2 a month before the trailer got out! Yeah, I for one thinks it take place in the past, that Zelda and link are going to go back in time before the first Great Calamity and do things to stop him
LieThePenguin also he’s not necessarily fighting it. That’s a pretty iconic image of him with sword and shield, facing a bird that looks a lot like the ones in skyward sword. Facing, not fighting. The sword is angled down, not raised in combat.
my fave is the identity of the ghost collector in Ocarina. I'd like to think it's the kid from the graveyard, but I'd rather it be a mystery forever. Also just... everything about Majora's Mask.
The Song of Storms is what's known as a "Predestination Paradox", in which the attempt to change the past creates what you know already as the present. It also goes toward disproving the idea of multiple timelines that Nintendo put out (Really, it's all one timeline, and I had it all figured out until Tears of The Kingdom).
Another thing to think about: if the snowpeak ruins were built by the royal family, who where they protecting themselves from, and if the place wasn't built by the royal family, then who else could afford to build that place, and who was dangerous enough to warrant the place existing with all that armour.
Every royal family or leader of a nation has some kind of bunker somewhere for the worst case scenario. So it is no surprise if the mansion belongs to them.
I’m really surprised you didn’t mention any of the pictures that can be found at Snowpeak Ruins! It really adds to the mystery even further, as it should be impossible for some of those pictures to exist at all. There are pictures of both the Sky Temple and the Temple of Time ruins, which during the events of Twilight Princess were supposed to have been completely lost to the ages for centuries. But it’s clear that these are recent pictures as they are identical to how they look in-game. Also there is a picture of the recently deceased Zora Queen and another of an unidentified man, which I’m guessing is Snowpeak’s owner. Clearly the owner was in the know on a lot of things going on in Hyrule that were considered mysteries themselves. There are people who theorized that same man is Rauru as they look very similar if I remember right, but I’m not really certain on that one way or the other. In any case ! feel like this stuff really should’ve been in the video though!
The Forgotten Temple in BoTW is pretty mysterious. All those guardians there, its clearly a key location and got hit hard during the calamity, but what is it?
It is the sealed temple from Skyward Sword, the last room bears great resemblance to the temple. If you look at the statue of the goddess and the overall layout of the room you can see it.
Conclusion: The monster races are the ones who made the ruins. They’ve repeatedly been shown to be highly intelligent and social (and various incarnations of the Zora are enemies, and the Yetis themselves are apparently hunted to near extinction-I kinda threw up once I realized Ashei was wearing a Yeti corpse...and moments later you befriend yetis.) So, Snowpeak could easily be where various races attempted to make a last stand, while the BotW ruins could be what these monster civilization(s) were like at their peak (personally I think the BotW ones fit Lizalfos eerily well. It makes sense for “little dragons” to worship a BIG dragon...and they’re everywhere in the City of the Sky...as is yet another (evil) dragon) ...and so far my brother claims that lynels leave Link alone in BotW unless he provokes them. Intelligent “monsters”, siding only with Ganondorf out of desperation to not be hunted anymore, and finding a sort of kinship on occation with Gerudo and Sheikah who often suffer similar prejudice.
Yeah while seeing the part about the arnours in the mansion my idea was that lizalfos probably were a sentient working class type and that they were also used as guardians for the royal family. At some point they may have been corrupted or just joined the side of evil and they underwent a devolution of sorts causing the savages we see in games.
One mystery I like is who were the dark tribe that created Majora's Mask? I also like the mystery of who were the Dark Interlopers who eventually became the Twili from the Realm of Twilight?
I believe one and the same. it makes sense that they made the mask and were then banished to the twilight realm for making something so uncontrollably powerful. not to mention their art is all the smae, I think that was the idea. even the armor midna wears has the majora looking art on it.
The tribe that created Majora's Mask could be the ones that created the Zonai ruins. They have the same tribal motif going on though the city where they lived always being covered in darkness seems too on the nose.
ViviSectia not to mention they haven’t really made a strong sequel to a zelda game since majoras mask and the trailer so far looks dark or i at least heard it would be a dark game.
I saw a meme for Did You Know Gaming that claimed the Majora Mask was inspired by South American tribes. I had a weird dream experience (bare with me if you will) where I wad in a Zelda game or something and i wss in a tropical jungle or something and there were ruins of a civilization and straw like hats on the structures like the Skull Kid’s hat. Majora was there. After i had that dream at some point infound the meme of the dupposed fact about the inspiration and I was very tripped out. I’ve always loved Majoras Mask the most for its deep complex mysterious psychedelic and dark themes. Ive had other dreams that related to the game as well.
I would feel bad for everyone who hasn't played BOTW yet. But I'm actually jealous because they still have the opportunity to experience that amazing game for the first time. A must play
I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion. I bought that game on its release day & have regretted it. I tried to keep an open mind & wanted to like it, but being an oldschool Zelda player from the NES games, it just didn't do it for me. It brought back, and even worse, magnified too many things from Skyward Sword (a game I also didn't like at all) that I disliked---things breaking (shields only in SS vs. everything in BotW), collecting all kinds of stuff for crafting (I just hate collectathons & loved how A Link Between Worlds limited it to just 3 things---horns, guts & claws), brought back the stamina meter from SS that I hated (which closes the world), didn't like the lack of dungeons in proportion to the size of the world, hated the shrines (they felt like they were lazy attempts to make up for the lack of dungeons & many were too similar), didn't like the lack of music, the lack of any meaningful reason for me to want to explore the world (no lasting items or heart pieces/containers to find, just stuff that all breaks ultimately), the size of the world vs. meaningful stuff filling it up like the 2d games & Majora's Mask had much more of, more than half of the deaths I took were by things the camera didn't even allow me to see, the damn Koroks as lazy fillers for actual secrets, the horrible horse controls when Twilight Princess (Wii version at least) had perfect horse controls...I could go on. I never played one of these Skyrim type games before since I'm mostly a retro gamer so it was a new experience & one I just didn't like. I would've probably been ok with it had it not been a Zelda game, but it being a Zelda game brings certain expectations and the game just didn't deliver on any of the key expectations for me. The one thing I actually liked a lot about the game---the cliff scaling---was ruined by the rain that fell making it too slippery to climb. Or other times it was ruined by the stamina gauge. As much as they pretend the game is "open world", these things closed it quite a bit & forced the player to upgrade to be able to reach certain areas. The first Zelda game still remains the most open Zelda game as you can reach Level-9 (enter it but you'll need the 8 ToW pieces to advance beyond the 2nd room) without anything other than bombs that certain enemies in the overworld can drop. It's like they wanted to add elements of realism to BotW, but that to me is ridiculous. It's incomprehensible to me why the latest installment of the series which started its 1st game with the subtitle of "The hyrule Fantasy" would want to include elements of realism in it (and those weren't even entirely real as the moment it stops raining, you can climb cliffs again in the game, which would never happen if trying to scale a wet cliff after rain stops in real life). I also liked the less linearity it had (the freedom it gave the player where to go), but that too was compromised by upgrades & stuff you needed to collect to reach or survive certain areas & the glider thing you needed that closed up the opening part of the game. So it depends on the person & what their preferences are, whether this game is a must-play. It's definitely not for everyone. I have friends online who like it & those who don't, so I know I'm not the only one. I think the best thing Nintendo could do is maintain the traditional Zelda formula & make a new IP featuring a series of games with the gameplay that BotW has. It would've been nice had they released 2 games the day BotW was released---one that played like a traditional 3D Zelda game and one that would be what BotW was and have their worlds interact/combine like the Oracle games, but in far greater depth using the current technology at hand. The traditional Zelda game could've been set in hyrule & the BotW style game could've been set in Lorule & been tied to the Zelda IP as the pilot game in the series to make more people want to buy it but later on get disconnected to Zelda & become its own thing with its own characters. That would've given players the option to play the games seperately or together, allowing for multiple experiences/replayability. I'd hate to wash my hands off a series that I first played 30+ years ago & have enjoyed more than any other because the general formula was dumped in favor of a modern fad, but unfortunately that's how I see it happening. I can see why Nintendo would want to do that though---because making a game that plays like BotW (minimal dungeons, mostly empty world considering its size other than fighting enemies, shrines, some towns, Koroks, and collecting tons of material) takes a lot less effort than it takes making a game that has 6-10 dungeons that are all completable without softlocking with different visual themes, puzzles, etc. plus an overworld full of secrets.
Piggy backing off the Song of Storms time loop...I think its also implied that Link is the one who weakened the seal beneath the well, eventually resulting in Bongo Bongo's escape. After all, playing the Song of Storms as a kid drained the well in the past, and the well remains drained 7 years in the future too. Perhaps the act of draining the well was the first domino in a long sequence of events that caused the seal to break?
I've always wondered where all of those extremely powerful magic items came from and went. The only ones with that kind of info in the games (that I know of) are the various magic/sacred swords
It's possible but this could also be a dead end because it is unclear whether the Wind Waker exists at the time of OoT - or whether it was created under the rule of King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule - or perhaps even later than that to help traverse the Great Sea.
The bird on Ganondorf's armor is obviously Links eternal enemy, and secret agent of evil, the Cucco!
yep ,theory SOLVED
Right!? Totally. First thing I do in any Zelda game is get murdered by chickens.
I feel like out of all of the mysteries in the video that one didn’t have any intention behind it. Just an easter egg. Maybe to indicate the fact that they made the hd remake for the wii u around the same time as wind waker
@@samuelhatlestad6676 That's a cool idea..
Honestly i think it's an Easter egg to skyward sword. Link isn't fighting the bird,the bird is his loftwing
Ganon: Who am I supposed to kill?
*Looks at armor*
Ganon: Oh, yeah. Him.
xD
damn, that hurt my sides.
SOLVED
🤣🤣🤣your profile pic matched your comment
Idk why but i read that in a kronk way (only true ogs kno)
I feel like most of these can be answered with the developers saying "I dunno. Thought it was cool."
Lol yup, Nintendo aren't Fromsoft ffs....
@@acolddarkgentlebruh8205 Kirby games: excuse me?
@@acolddarkgentlebruh8205 FromSoft never thought about that stuff that hard either
I pretty sure they had the whole story thought out since the 80's, boys. 😜 The lore of Legend of Zelda is neither convoluted or contradictory: it is exactly what it is supposed to be 😆
@@isaacdavis4108 I'm pretty sure they didn't, and only in recent iterations began connecting them.
two more interesting things about the song of storms
1: it is a piece of music where the end is the beginning
2: it is constructed to pair with waltz dances where typically two people join and dance in a circle
both of these things are aspects that reflect the shape and nature of hurricanes
Agan Mardrus but even weirder it can heal spirits
Song of Storms and Serenade of Water are my favorite songs in the Zelda series.
As well as the fact that it's origin is an impossible paradoxical time loop.
@@godofthecripples1237 You might say it's a perfect paradox.
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I might be in the wrong game again...
@@Caztendo ok not gonna destroy u but thats the song of healing buddy not the song of storms. dw tho they do sound similar
But Zeltik, I think we’re all glossing over a very important unsolved mystery.
The Toilet Hand
Scrumplet out here asking the real questions
Believe it or not, the toilet hand is a monster from Japanese folk tales! I think it might be called a kurote.
It does live down the toilet and it belongs to a rather dangerous monster!
SongoftheLute yep, They kill you in different ways depending on what color you say, they give you 2 options red or blue, you can confuse them by saying a certain color, but I can’t remember what color that is.
Remoteislandgamer maybe purple? Because that’s a mix of red and blue.
Ahh man brilliant. I forgot about the hand.😂😂
Now that Tears of the kingdom is out, I believe this would be the best time to revisit the Zonai ruins mystery, as we have MUCH more information on the zonai as a whole!
Yet we still don't know why the Zonai disappeared. I mean how does an immensely advanced civilization just disappear like that? Was there a fierce war? Did an event of catastrophic level drop their numbers severely? Or did they just leave the world and only select few decide to stay?
@@superaleksibros2 I think it’s actually explained in part of a cutscene in the totk! They honestly just left.
@@superaleksibros2 Its loosely explained in one of the teardrop cutscenes in Totk. Those cutscenes also explain how the the dragons came to be, and there are theories that the 3 dragons in botw/totk are actually other Zonai Sages that swallowed their sacred stones to serve as guardians of their domains and springs eternally.
My favorite unsolved mystery is the aliens in majoras mask
Yes!!! The fun side mission!!!
Haha, that was so weird! Loved it though. Actually, Majoras mask had so many fantastic quest ideas. What a game that is!
It should have been in the video!!
Thats an easter egg referencing a similar situation happening to a real family in america. Spooky
it was explained in majora's mask tho it was really the Ingo brothers stealing the sheep.
Maybe Snowpeak Mansion is where Zelda and Impa ran away to in OOT, that’s why it’s in a remote place, has a lot of the royal family symbols, and why there’s a lot of armor (for guards that protected the mansion)
True
Different timeline
@@chelsealopez8641 I was going to correct you, but you are right. To clarify to others, the events of OoT belong to the Adult Timeline UNTIL, the end of Ocarina of time, when young link warns Princess Zelda about the upcoming betrayal of Ganondorf, thus giving him the Ocarina and parting to search for Navi. In Children Timeline Ganondorf never attacked the Kingdom, so Zelda and Impa did not have the necessity to hide, and Ganondorf was imprisoned and executed as we saw in TP.
Still, that fact does not exclude that the building already existed in OoT era, yet unused.
Yeah it could been kinda like that one stronghold in Akkala that has a sheikah tower on it. Can’t remember what it was called though
@@alyssarussell145 Akkala citadel
The Song of Storms is an infinitely recursive Stable Time Loop. The man teaches it to Link so that Link can teach it to him for him to in turn teach it to Link. It exists as a temporal recursion with no beginning or end.
it could've been another kid with an ocarina who first played it but with time travel, link learned it and taught it to the man before the ocarina kid, therefore creating the loop
Koji Kondo wrote "The Song of Storms." Duh. Why is the original video acting like its origin is a mystery?
The guy would’ve eventually figured it out himself, played it, realized it made the windmill turn and then adult link asking about it would make the player go back in time and teach the guy the song before he ever knew it, then that’s where the “kid with the ocarina” story started. It all came from one reality where he taught himself the song
to be fair, he was playing it before Link played it on a magical instrument, so... he already knew it, irregardless.
Classic case of the Bootstrap Paradox.
The Lizalphos armor in the Mansion connects to a fan theory that I haven't seen get a lot of traction, but that I think has a fair bit of merit.
That "monsters" (Lizalphos, moblins, bokoblins, lynels etc.) aren't actually inherently evil creatures, and have thoughts and feelings much like the more respected races of Hyrule. They clearly make clothes and weapons, speak to each other, and have sort of a basic culture. This is best seen in BotW, but you get hints in other games. It might not be a stretch to imagine that these "lesser races" of Hyrule were once subjugated and used by the higher races, and might have sold their very beings to Ganon in exchange for false promises of freedom and revenge. That would at least explain why a Hylian fortress would have Lizalphos armor, and why numerous locations in BotW are guarded by "monsters" that reasonably have no right being used as guardians in man-made structures.
Or it's just a game and they thought it'd look cool to put armor on creatures and needed somewhere to put loot. But that theory's kinda boring
Banana Tim way to kill the atmosphere
Oracle series Moblins.
Banana Tim also on retrospective what loot?
Calamity Ganon’s blood moon spawns them tho.
The trope of morally grey/relatable villains is usually interesting, imo. In Japanese culture however, stories of evil entities are usually just inherently evil at their core - no redemption, just purely bad from day one.
If I had to guess, I’d say that despite their characteristics, these monsters are just the same.
Speaking of relatable enemies, something I’d be interested in seeing personally is potentially seeing Ganon without the Triforce of power.
In the same way Link and Zelda have had their respective Triforce powers awakening over the spans of previous games, imagine seeing that happening to Ganon. Being a regular albeit rare male Gerudo, gradually corrupted by power as the game’s story progresses could super cool/creepy to watch, imo. :)
This theory doesn’t make much sense, but what if the image of Link fighting a bird is actually Link saving his Loftwing at the start of Skyward Sword. Perhaps Demise saw that as the moment the hero started his journey, so if that moment didn’t happen, he wouldn’t have been stopped. He then engraved it on his armor as Ganondorf to remember that fateful moment.
Theo
I suspect that the engraving on Ganondorf's armor was simply a design made up by one of the artists working on the remaster, and nothing more. Just like the one depicting Link and the bird man in Castle Town.
@@LonelySpaceDetective bruh that’s so boring you can explain literally every single theory of every game like this
@@HerrZeus I mean, there's another engraving added in the HD remaster that seemed significant, but was then discovered to just be the personal touch of one of the artists at Tantalus. I don't see any reason to believe the one on Ganondorf's armor isn't another example.
@@LonelySpaceDetective let us dream :c
Twilight princess was the first Zelda I obsessed over, it still feels so mysterious and amazing.. it's been about 10 years since I played it. I think it's time to go back
It was the first Zelda game I ever played, actually! For some reason before that, growing up, I had never played ANY of the others as I was very sheltered so I wasn’t aware of a lot of popular things, but also didn’t have any gaming systems for awhile besides a DS. I adored it so much when I got TP that I played a bunch of the others as soon as I could 💖 I remember I had a huge crush on Zelda when I played it, one of the first times I had an actual crush on a girl character ☺️ before I later realized I’m bi. That game still remains my favorite along w Ocarina of Time!!
@@hommefataltaemin midna singlehandedly shaped what I'm attracted to in a partner LOL
@@ralkia I lusted over both her and Zelda in that game.
When you showed Ganon's armour at 4:37 my first thought was that the symbol on his collar looked like the dragon statues you were just talking about.
Same!
@@Nico97fr Hey, I like your theories
I would also like to know more about his armor and symbols
And here I was wondering if I was thinking the same thing. Maybe, if these people were warriors, they made many sets of armor?
The serpent-like patterns in Wind Waker Ganondorf's cape are also very similar!
Triforce of wisdom = shiekah tribe
Triforce of power = gerudo tribe
Triforce of courage = zonai tribe?
Doesn't make sense to me
-Ganon is from Gerudo
-Sheikas were there when Hylia was still a god (Zelda before she lost her divinity) and she is a Sheika herself (Sheik)
-Link isn't from Zonai. The games and manuals never mentioned him being there so it just doesn't make Sense
@@levyata8964 think about it for a few seconds and get back to me
@@levyata8964 that's true, but the hero from the hero's legend shown on the tapestry when you speak to kass in botw, shows the hero with red headdress on, much like the zonai helm. This could indicate a connection?
@@ChewTheWires
Or maybe that's the fire armor Link finds
Zelda was Sheik, and is tied to the triforce of wisdom...
Ganon is gerudo, and is tied to the triforce of power...
Link has the whole red head dress theory going around with the barbarian armor and the ancient hero wearing a red head dress found in the zonai barbarian armor and what not... kinda makes sense...
The song of storms being a time paradox is actually a hint of where it comes from. Its invention is caused by the Goddess of Time, in order to allow her hero to fulfill his task.
Who is the goddess of time?
@@loki4807Hylia
@@cheskalumanog8859 Thank you Glory to Hylia!
It’s likely that the song of storms is part of a stable time loop, meaning learning that song is an inevitable point in time, no matter what. It’s fairly similar to what I believe is called the Bootstrap Paradox
Fuck you for causing me a mental breakdown after watching a video on it
I don't think it's a coincidence, I think the Song of Storms is a little reference to the bootstrap paradox idea. The writers were possibly showing us through a joke that they're aware of the inherent problems in time travel-fiction. It will never be fully resolved because this is a fantasy series and not sci-fi (and because it can't be resolved, it's a paradox).
The memories of the yeti wife breaking her neck 180° and becoming a monster
I always thought she had another face in the back of her head, which in hindsight it's so much worse
bo mg nah I think the 180 is worse XD, but that’s just my opinion.
Another memory I have of this place is Zant growing huge, getting his foot crushed by a steel ball, and shrinking to a tiny size ! xD
It's make me surprise that the yeti wife become a monster of that dungeon
I had nightmares for weeks. Oh, fond memories
"Wait a moment... where did you learn the Song of Storms?"
"Someone played it to you earlier."
"But that someone was me!"
"I know!"
"But where did I learn it?"
"From me!"
"Yes, but where did you learn it?"
"Someone played it to you earlier."
"But that someone was me!"
"I know!"
"But where did I learn it?"
"From me!"
"Yes, but where did you learn it?"
"Someone played it to you earlier."
*_"BUT THAT SOME-"_*
VizardJeffhog who’s on first base? Lol
Paradoxes are fun because if you think of it in a non-linear loop like that you'll go mad. If you think of it in a linear timeline way, like which point comes first on a line, it's a lot easier. That's the inherent problem with being the time traveller, your timeline is different from everyone else's.
Line 1: World timeline.
A stranger appears and teaches a song to a man in a windmill, speeding things up and draining the well. Seven years later the windmill man teaches that song to a stranger.
Line 2: Personal Timeline (mental flow, the order of events as you experience the in the game)
You go to a grumpy man in a windmill and learn a song. You then travel and teach the song to a happy man in a windmill, which upsets him.
Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey.
The guy probably made the song himself, taught it to you, And you went back and taught it to him before he can invent it
WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CLOTHES AT A SOUP STORE?!?!
Good old bootstrap paradoxes!
What if the music box geezer already knew the song of storms, and he’s been messing with us the whole time.
I'm mean he does cuz he's playing it on his music box, it's probably the magic of the ocarina of time that's required to actually summon a storm
or since you learn (or hear) the song itself the first time in the future, why couldn't it be another child with an ocarina that tought him the song. why does it have to be Link?
Because Link is the only one with the magical ocarina of time
That paradox hurt my brain as a child and still does today lol
supersonic I just accepted the paradox as an aspect of time travel since the spirit temple is the similar. You go there and learn the warp song as an adult then beat it as a child.
Time paradox windmill man is my favorite Zelda character
It's a windmill of peace
@@Im_33_years_old it's a windmill of torment lol
His name’s Guru-Guru, in case you wanted to know.
Brah he looks like he fuckin da jukebox
This made me laugh and wdf first time round
My top mystery: In Majora’s Mask, how does the postman deliver a letter to a missing person (Kafei) the next day? If someone knows his address, they could find him.
the postman is in on Kafei's mystery. the place behind the store is just his hideout, not his official address...
@@sentient07 I dont think the postman knows. Everyone knew Kafei as an adult. The only person who knows about Kafei is the Curiosity Shop owner. The hideout Kafei is in is right behind the Curiosity Shop. I'd say that's the address for the Curiosity Shop owner.
@@josebuenaventura1558 see the weird thing is that nobody recognizes Kafei with the Keaton mask on, despite Kafei having literally the most unique haircut in Termina and it's extremely recognizable
I.... *stares* oh my god
I mean not much of a mystery.
You can trigger a conversation between Anju and the postman where she's grilling him for the address but he won't give it up because he takes his job seriously.
The Zonai mystery may be answered in the botw sequel!
c egg Yeah, that will be interesting to see exactly who they are.
Fuck im excited
Fingers crossed
@@thecraigadile1494 I've actually found an image perhaps linking the Zonai and the trailer. It's not much, but it's two pillars, one with the red used in the trailer, and another withe blue. The blue has an eye on it, and I can't really tell what's on the red one.
@@thecraigadile1494 the eye is blue and strongly resembles the sheikah, even though it's zonai architecture. This kinds confirms the theory the sheikah and zonai are linked, as many have said.
I think Nintendo missed an opportunity with not putting the snow peak mansion in the hebra region in botw
Edit: Damn thanks for all the likes
@@nonoctoro4933 ikr, and it would be an amazing Easter egg
It would be cool, but keep in mind botw takes place like a bajillion years after all the events of TP, and well every other LoZ game. I mean yeah maybe the shiekah built the guardians before all those games, closer to the events of skyward sword, and everything between that and BotW is just middle ground, but still after even just a thousand years there wouldn't be anything left of the mansion spare some scattered rotten wood and shards of metal.
I think the reason why there's armor like from the mini boss is because it could have been actually a lizard army because one in breath of the wild there are lizards in the cold wintery places so it could have been possible the fortress was actually home to some kind of advance lizard soldiers
@@sagehanson190 I mean they did put what was left of Arbiters Grounds in BoTW
@@sagehanson190 Well, if there's a OoT reference (Ranch Ruins), why can't there be a TP reference when TP happened after OoT. Also, the guardians were made after all the other games because Ganon was sealed the entire time between when he was sealed with the help of the Sheikah tech and the great calamity.
Honestly, I love listening to the lost woods theme from Twilight Princess. It’s so relaxing in a tired way, and the notes give the listener this melancholy feeling. The mystery with the skull kid summoning the puppets in the similar sections of the forest is mysterious, and I always remember my childhood when I played this game with my father.
If only Zeltik had a 20 minute conference with Eiji Aonuma...
Tomforce Gamer ikr
We would get all the answers of zelda games
A french youtuber have got a conference but i'm not sure but I think it was just for botw
@@mangolie21 Yes, he did ! I think you are speaking about Siphano! ( I love his videos and his Zelda botw let's play)
Nobody is going to buy a game with all the mysteries solved, so Aonuma won't even bother with answering questions.
@@vasafeasdas6183 Aounuma ain't even bothering about knowing the answers
I've always wondered about the Happy Mask Salesmen, specifically in Majora's Mask, where he seems to know more about the fate of the Moon falling, saying he has to leave in 3 days time before the end of the world.
He wears a purple cloth and golden ornaments.
Kinda like the Garo Master.
Maybe he's a Garo ? They were sent to spie upon the Ikanians which were apparently trying to penetrate the Stone Tower.
Maybe they were guarding the Seal of Majora ?
Except you encounter Garo spirits in the game, and they don't seem worried about the mask or anything related. It's worth noting that Shigeru Miyamoto was specifically asked about the Happy Mask Salesman, and he might as well have said that it's his self insert. Look at a photo of each of them smiling and tell us what you think.
He obviously knows although how is never explained. He's a quasi godly being that carried the remains of a demon. There are many mysteries with that character but they may be explained with "It's just a Miyamoto self insert".
There are many many mysteries with Majora's Mask's world left unexplained.
Not only that but the kids in the moon at the end of the game look weirdly similar to him and they ask you if you want to be a mask salesman.
Ikr? Me too! But I think talking about the salesmen would be too long for this video, because It's so mysterious and you can analyze alot. It should be a separate video
I really loved the design to snowpeak, i love how you could escape to the warmth of the cabin, make some soup and go back to brave the cold dangers of the courthouse.
The bird on Ganondorf's Armour could be a loftwing, being a nod or slight teaser for skyward sword.
That's what I was thinking.
Why is Link facing it, sword drawn?
@@josiahcmiller
because he can
Maybe Ganondorf has/had a Hylian son who dressed up like the hero to mock him.
To be fair, just because his sword is drawn and facing the bird, it doesn't mean he's fighting it. It could just be attractive posing, hence Loftwing makes sense. If so, it being on Ganondorf's armour could be a reminder from his original incarnation, Demise, to never forget the aspect who defeated him.
Hearing about the Song of Storms paradox and Snowpeak Ruins made me wish VortexxyGaming was still around. It's great that the RUclips Zelda-theory community has continued to go strong.
I miss her as well. One of the best Zelda theorists.
Who is that? I dont think I've heard that name before
@@christiancasaverdepertica1802
ruclips.net/user/VortexxyGaming
@Kefla Oh. I didn't know about that
@Kefla
Stop making things up or claiming what you don't know for sure.
The Yeti's slaughtered everyone in Snowpeak Mansion... that's what's in the soup!! D:
"This tastes like victory, but whose?"
That’s what I thought, it’s so obvious
I just played the Snowpeak Mansion for the first time last week! (owned the game 3 years now, but didn't get this far until now). I seriously thought the soup he was preparing was to put Link in, an ironically Link was being told by the wife to get the ingredients (pumpkin, cheese) for the soup they planned to boil him alive in, and Link would have to fight back. Wasn't sure though why they would be trying to lure him to the bedroom though for them to finally finish the deed. Fortunately that wasn't the case (yet it is still a yeti you must fight), as that would make sled racing with them a bit awkward later! lol
What about the big ass red fish? Isn't the soup made out of that?
JP Serrano It is, you can even see the fish in the pot
Pretty sure the mansion was owned by Ashei's family I want to say she mentions something about it in the game she wields a rapier and she is part of the questline for the mansion
Was thinking the same thing
Could be ...
However, the mansion seems to be old enough to have a portrait of Rauru within it.
It was a mansion used by the Knights for sure ...
That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think of it. She talks about snow and the peaks when you meet her, and then she has that weird yeti, mask thing. Also she uses a rapier, and she learned it from her father, probably her family was into dueling or something, ense the crest
But the building would have been the family's mansion many generations prior.
If I had to guess, it was probably an outpost created by the royal family, and managed by the knights or Hyrule, probably with Ashei family, or at least a member of it in charge.
If I had to guess, its propose was to act as a secure base where to move the royal family in case Hyrule castle became an unsafe or fell to enemy forces. It wasn't well known, as shown by Ashei not knowing about it, its location, hard to access location, and highly defensive location, makes it perfect as a secret base to secure or command a war.
It was probably used to protect the royal family after the Gerudo attack to Hyrule castle in the child timeline, and probably attacked at some point before Ganondorf troops fell, and was abandon after the war ended because it either was the repair/maintenance cost was too great or the Knights suffered too many loses to be capable of wasting many operatives in an outpost in the middle of nowhere, causing it to be left and eventually forgotten.
what if the picture of link on ganons armor showing link fighting a chicken? cause that's links most powerful enemy in any zelda game XD
imagine zooming in on ganon's armour to see an image of link running away from a hundred angry chickens!
@@kloggmonkey Lol exactly XD
Maybe it's a Loftwing, perhaps showing the downfall of the era of Hylians living in the skies, breaking off their ties with the big birds and moving properly to the ground
I was thinking the same thing! What if it was a loftwing and they went against the people for leaving the sky and as punishment for attacking the hylians the gods turned the loftwings into cuccos. But they still get angry sometimes when attacked by Link and they go crazy and swarm him?
Did anyone else notice that the shield that the link on his armor is using is the hero shield from wind waker?
I love the mystery about that mansion in Twilight Princess. It makes you wonder if at one point the Lizalfos were another allied kingdom of Hyrule, like the Zora, Kokiri, or Goron.
Love your vids, great job putting this together. Can you make a top ten proven Zelda theories?
Robin McCormack thats a great idea
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@@JG-pv9qo timeline
If it can be proven,it is then in fact not a theory
He used to be the "British guy who never uploads". Now he is the man who is back with incredible Zelda videos.
Correct
One of my personal favorite mysteries was the blacksmith's well in Link to the Past. Jumping into the well takes you to what looks like a little shrine with a bowl held out. If you sprinkle magic powder into it it will summon a little bat creature who talks tough but will double your magic meter. The design and architecture of the shrine though are unlike anything anywhere else in either the light and dark world and the bat creature never show up again. Always made me wonder who it was and how it got sealed up down there.
maybe the depiction on Ganondorf's armor is Link fighting a Phoenix? representing how Demise will continually come back as Ganon to fight the hero? @Zeltik
It would more likely be a Roc then a phoenix, as the Zelda games are littered with Roc's Feathers and a few Roc's Capes. As well Helmaroc isn't the only giant bird you face in the games, at least one other comes to mind as the boss for the Eagles Tower in Link's Awakening, and think of the name Helmaroc as Helmet Roc. Take all that in with Roc of myth not being fairly friendly creatures, while Phoenixes are more likely to run from people that would pose a danger, but flock to gentle/kind souls in myth.
@@truekurayami Skyward Sword has phoenix enemies in it.
@@truekurayami if you look at the shield in the depiction it looks exactly like the shield from wind waker so I believe it is actually depicting the fight between the helmaroc King and Link
@zambekiller this could be true, but the two games are in different timelines. This whole detail might just be an Easter egg.
@@larkeyfake that's what I think
Inside of the Main Hall of the Snowpeak Ruins, one can see a painting of (what's supposed to be) Impa.
Ah so it's yet another mystery revolving around the Sheikah?
There is also a painting of Rauru the sage of light, which if I remember correctly, Hyrule Historia points out that the Snowpeak Mansion originally belonged to him and he gave it to the Knights of Hyrule to use as a training grounds and last defense against Ganondorf should he return
It’s sharps an flats old place. Fits the bill.
@@kylebarber3664 what page?
Guru-Guru: _"I'll never forget the song that kid played in my windmill! The one that I've been sitting here and playing on my gramophone, non-stop, for over seven years now. Curse that child for disrupting the windmill by playing a song that had hitherto been completely unknown to me, somehow...! Grr... 😤"_
(continue to play song)
I think it's supposed to be that the first time Link enters is as an adult, but it doesn't explain why he plays the song in the past. Frankly, the whole thing gives me headaches, and thinking about it doesn't help.
Haha, yes! Well over seven years
I'm currently sick in bed, just discovered your channel and now i'm binge watching Zelda Theory Videos. This makes me feel so much better and really helps to forget about my sickness!! Thanks.
feeling better?
@@aliali-ce3yf Ha, thanks for asking. Haven't really been sick in a long time.
I love the Snowpeak Ruins. The way you acquired the ball and chain is so unique and interesting compared to how you normally acquire dungeon items.
The Song of Storms paradox is all about destiny and self-fulfilling prophecy. The hero of time was destined to teach the song to the windmill man, so in the future, the windmill man already knew the song, which then allowed the hero to travel back in time to teach it to him to ensure he learned it in the future.
it would be like if you were supposed to invent a new type of lighter. You find out in the future about this cool lighter that revolutionized the lighter industry, find out how it works, and then take the design back to the past to fulfill the future you've already seen.
I'd love to have a Botw-stylied game set during that ancient period before Hyrule was ever a thing, to explore the untapped mystery of ancient civilizations, and to see a world that was truly primal and not fully tamed, despite the empire they once had...
To truly become as one with the Wild more than even Botw ever did...
Wow yeah me to. I think that would be a better game than botw
Skyward Sword but BOTWrized ?
and you also mean before skyward sword? because that was the game to start the whole timeline
Only problem is you couldnt play Link in this game because Hyrule already existed when there was no Hero
Dynomyte 12 BOTW is not in a separate timeline from skyward sword. No canon Zelda game is.
I actually had a Lorule theory before LBW came out. When Link wishes on the Triforce at the end of LTTP, the dark world is recreated to reflect what's in his heart: a better light world. People that were dead come back to life, and peace returns to the kingdom. But what happens to the original light world? Well, the master sword and the triforce no longer exists in its realm, so there's no essence of divinity remaining in that dimension. I always figured that Lorule was just the old light world, eons later, and it's all in decay.
Edit: I was going to leave it at that, but I think that further explains your mystery. In LTTP, travelers could only go from the light world to the dark world. There was no way back without the magic mirror. That rift that allowed Yuga to get to the new light world could have been related to the same magic that allowed the dimensional travel in LTTP. Yuga being a sorcerer very likely could have created a way to travel both ways like the mirror did. Either that, or the decay of Lorule weakened the barrier between worlds and Yuga was able to take advantage of that.
Woah dude. Good shit with the "hero on Ganondork's armor", I've never seen that before. Great video!
Ganondork. Wow good job
Did you all notice that on Ganondorf's Armor (from twilight) is the symbol of the dragon of the Zonia culture?
Leonardo Rodriguez I thought that’s what he was about to mention! And then it was a little link haha
@@benforth5486 Right!? Haha plot twist *Mind Blow*
On Ganondorf's armor, the bird could also be the Thunderbird from Zelda 2, but, again, that's in a different timeline. But Helmaroc King makes sense. Wind Waker HD came out on the same system so it could just be an easter egg.
Snowmanly7 That was my best guess... but i gotta say do timelines really matter if they’re just theories?
@@samuelhatlestad6676 There is also the giant bird in Link's Awakening at the end of Eagle Tower, which I can only assume is another Roc or Thunderbird, for the series.
MAD-DOG_JOKEY the timelines are canon. The games even address them. Wind Waker pretty blatantly said the hero never arrived, because that timeline no longer had a hero.
@@truekurayami The same timeline issue
@@coyraig8332 That was more to point out the the different instances of such birds, so it isn't to much of a stretch for one to be seen in a different timeline
I love how interconnected Zelda lore is. I've just recently started BOTW for the first time and I was pleasantly surprised at the references to previous games in one of the cutscenes.
The snow peak mansion is the impenetrable wall of Briggs
Hopefully there isn't a giant homunculus beneath the mansion
Nah, just a couple of huge Yeti’s living in it.
I’m so happy I understand this comment
Theory: Lorule's rift was created by Demise, as he used the Lorulian triforce to gain godly powers, saw there was another world, Hyrule, created the rift and poured forth with his army of Demons.
That's what I was just thinking.
For some reason I thought this was confirmed. Was it not? I guess I read a theory a long time ago and just thought it was the truth 😂😂
I've ALWAYS wanted to know more about snow peak ruins and have more lore behind it. It's one of the coolest mysteries in the zelda series.
The song of storms is one of my favorite mysteries for it's casual loop. After playing Ocarina of Time I thought, who taught Link the song? And I agree it's a bit satisfying to know that, he knew the song, so he could play the song, so he could be taught the song, so he could play the song. Then learning it in Majora's Mask was interesting, though the game is supposed to take place after the events of Ocarina of Time, and that just opened up more mysteries. Love it.
Legend of Zelda Lore says Snowpeak Mansion was occupied and used by the Knights of Hyrule for training and strategic planning during a war that required the Gorons, Zoras, and Humans to unite to form one army.
V1DE0 it’s where Ashei used to live and train with her father
That makes sense. If you look around snowpeak Manor you can see portraits of different people, and one I noticed was Queen Rutela the Zora queen you got the armor from.
But against who? The gerudos? Theyre on the other side of the map, and you dont train soldiers far from both theyre home bases and the frontlines, where most would be unable to even traverse (zoras would freeze, gorons would likely be unable to eat due to the rocks being frozen over). Maybe it was a last refuge for the royal family and elite soldiers in case of the kingdom being taken over.
Plus, the lizalfos armor is strange. Theyve always been enemies, seemingly ganondorfs minions in some way shape or form.
But, it may be simpler. The royal family had both the zonai ruins and snowpeak, as evidenced by the shrine and imagery. Perhaps the zonai WERE lizalfos, as they inhabit the ruins and have carvings of themselves, much like ancient egypt had heiroglyphs picturing humans. Perhaps the lizalfos were once allies, and they stored armor in the cold since lizalfos seem to be able to adapt to the cold (breath of the wild snow lizalfos). Or, they were what the combined armies were fighting, and the armor of high ranking lizalfos were kept as trophies. This would explain why lizalfos seem to be in every region in the games, across all the games, and why the symbols of their empire span the entire kingdom of hyrule.
What page?
a theory stated that the gerudos were a very powerful army that ganondorf used to attack Hyrule Castle after OOT link came back as a child and prevented the king's death by telling him of the events of the future.
The Zoras and the gorons were allies of the king of Hyrule , so them getting trained at the snowpeak to become more powerful and useful on the frontlines isn't that far off.
Also, during that time perhaps the snowpeak area had a warmer climate and so the gorons and the Zoras were capable of traveling from the training base to the frontlines .
And after the war ended and the training base wasn't needed anymore it slowly became forgotten, and top of that, the climate started to change drastically
I definitely think the song of storms having no beginning is perfect for a game with a time travel theme. I think they saw an opportunity and made something fun with it. Great video as always! Thank you!
The same curiosity you had for the Snowpeak Mansion I've always had for Ocarina of Time's Forest Temple. It's a dungeon, but designed somewhat like an old mansion and it makes me curious about what it was like when it was newly built, and who inhabited it.
The first time I played OoT like 10 years ago I got a Celtic/Druid like vibe from the forest temple.
@@wtcvidman same... Especially the druid part. It would fit in with the forest vibe as well
Ganondorf having Link on his armor could be a sign of respect. It's their destiny to do battle and it's likely that ganon has great respect for link, and it would be foolish not to. Link is the only person who can ever stand in his way and defeat him.
Ok cute theory
I feel like Ganondorf has never really shown respect for Link though outside maybe two or three occasions. In fact he usually looks down on him & disrespects him, because of his own ego and pride. Doesn’t seem like the type of guy that would do that. 😂
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Link was never confirmed to be the "kid" that made the windmill go crazy. It's easy to believe that, but it's just as likely that there was another unseen kid who knew the song, came in, and played the Song of Storms.
Maybe they did this before yoing Link arrived and played the song or maybe even after he arrived and caused an even bigger problem.
It would be a weird coincidence, but still technically plausible, leaving out the foolish "bootstrap paradox".
Yeah, but then when he goes back to the past, he’s the one who first plays it for him. It’s a legitimate paradox. It’s called the Bootstrap Paradox.
The Windmill taught me that time paradoxes cause headaches.
@@MyBestFriendRyanJones technically it would be a causal nexus.
@@AtomDarkheart well technically, it could've been another kid that came and played it and when link time traveled, he rewrote the chain of events by teaching it first, thus the loop is born
@Melvil DE CASTRO
Actually no, this "Other kid" would have came in either before young Link played the song or after he did causing a bigger ruckus than before.
Both theories are highly coincidental, but nonetheless plausible.
Maybe the crack was made by Hyrule's Triforce? Maybe it could sense the absence of its twin so made that rift? Idk, it's just a thought.
I like that !
Probably because they're linked as probably they were made by the same goddesses: Din, Farore and Nayru. So it wouldn't be strange that the dimensions are linked by the triforce itself and the absence of the second end point made an actual rift in the dimensional tissue. Probably even would have made a terrible disaster happen in Hyrule when Lorule collapsed completely as they seem to be linked in many ways.
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@@TheNezharMC Probably.
I have yet to play Link Between Worlds, but isn't Lorule modeled off of Link to the Past's Dark World? And the game is a direct sequel to LTTP, so I wonder if the rifts might've had anything to do with Link going there.
Your videos are very well put together, they are also very informative
I've always loved the Song of Storms paradox. It's so brilliant.
My favorite mystery of Zelda, How the hell did the champions on Breath of the Wild lose to the blight Gannons?
The Linels and Wizrobes was more of a challenge
Here's a theory,
Mipha was caught off guard while healing troops
Urbosa was helping Zelda stay safe while she got cornered by a bunch of enemies including thunderblight
Daruk did not have remote bombs for that phase of the fireblight boss
Rivali actually said that he was only defeated because he was winging it so we just have to believe him
Truthfully I could see them getting beat by a linel faster now something that could happen that does make sense is that they was attacked by the blight Gannons using the devine beast against them
They might've been stronger back then considering that Zelda has basically been fighting and weakening Calamity Ganon all this time
@@amandabergsten8918 All of those are plausible except fro Urbosa's. Zelda was with Link when Ganon returned, while Urbosa was in the desert with Narboris. But good thinking.!!
The champions were almost certainly ambushed within their Divine Beasts while preparing to annihilate Ganon. Though all of them were said to be skilled warriors so at first it would seem weird that they’d lose to the Blights simply because they were caught off guard. Until you realized that they also had no weapons. Each champion has their own unique weapon that they’re skilled with, and Link can get each of them in game to use. However it’s who you get them from that matters. You aren’t given them directly from the champions themselves, but rather from the rulers of each respective area as a reward for freeing the Divine Beasts. If the champions had their weapons with them when died inside the Divine Beasts, then they would likely still be there 100 years later, but they aren’t. For this reason I believe that when Ganon reappeared they went to their Divine Beasts unarmed, and to be fair given their roles they had no real reason to prepare for combat. Even if the plan worked they’d be so far from Hyrule Castle that by the time they got there the fight would already be over. If the champions had their weapons I think they could’ve survived the sudden attack, but it seems more likely that they didn’t.
one explanation for the song of storms paradox is to consider a second ocarina user. Where "year 1" is Young link's current year:
year 2: kid plays song
year 8: adult link learns song
year 1: young link plays song triggering the effects a year earlier.
but why need a explanation? its just a stable time loop this happens many times throughout zelda and is a very very common trope of time travel storys. i mean just look up the goron vase in oracle of ages, its just one of many examples just in that one game
@@weq150 true...
You can say the same thing about John Connor in terminator. It’s just a closed loop. The song always exists because young link will play it so future link can learn it. It’s just casuality.
Zonai are probably what people did before Hylia made a push for top dog. It's interesting to think of the story told in Skyward Sword: "... gathered the 5 tribes together..."
Zeltik, u r on fire recently. REALLY enjoying your content on all things Zelda. Without a shadow of a doubt, u are my favorite Zelda YT'er currently
Thanks so much!
mine too
I always believed it a given that the Song of Storms would be etched in some tomb in the graveyard, just like the Song of Sun. Since the two musician brothers rest there and both songs were composed by them, Link probably found it around off-screen in the initial time sequence. Then he taught it as an adult to Guru-Guru and etc.
Thank you for making these videos! It inspires me to not only learn more about Hyrule's history and replay the games, but also makes me appreciate fantasy world building so much more. Keep up the good work!
Game Theory: When Link plays the song of storms is when the Zelda timeline splits.
You just blew my mind..... Many Worlds Theory?.... Schrodinger?.... It's definitely A Bootstrap Paradox...
I wasn't expecting some hard-core physics ideas in a Zelda game...
@@RogueBoyScout Who wrote Beethoven’s fifth
So in other words the Song of Storms is an example of The Bootstrap Paradox.
it is one of a few time travel paradoxes in the series, most of them though are tied to the Oracle games from what I can remember
Who wrote Beethoven’s fifth
The song of storms was actually how I learned about the Bootstrap paradox, I played through it, thought it was cool, and told my mom. She then educated me about time paradoxes.
It’s so funny watching this and seeing people not knowing who the zonai are after totk has come out
4.38 - on Ganondorf’s armor is the same dragon head design from the Zonai ruins. Could there be a connection between the Zonai and the Gerudo?
Maybe at one point there was a random boom of male Gerudo. There were so many that the women began to treat them like any other voe. They got mad and left to create their own tribe and fought against the Gerudo. They could have even been led by the last Ganondorf. The Gerudo were able to get help from the other races and wiped out this new tribe.
Nina Sampson Wow
Always a good day when zeltik uploads
That's a castle (designed for war and fortification to hold off invaders) not a pallace (a show of power and beauty, the same place you find Kings and Queens)
Me: Watching video about Zelda
This video's notification pops up, *as I'm just happening to be watching that Zelda-related video*
Zeltik: No, you watch me for Zelda, remember?
Me: Ok. *closes other video for this one.*
Same
You forgot the biggest mystery of all:
Why the hell does Robbie keep a living guardian outside his lab?
I wondered that too.
BECAUSE HES A CRAZY MADMAN
Catching that detail on Ganon's armor was incredibly sharp. You all are some talented, astute detectives! Great video and excellent points
I feel like Snowpeak was a place for an order of Hyrulian Knights that has been there for a long long time. They have a chapel, weapons, cannons, and living quarters. The mansion was probably owned by someone with a lot of power as you mention.
I like that !
One of the people you meet in hyrule town tells you how she use to go there with her father or something like that, the chick you talk to before ypu head out to the mansion itself
@@juniormii Yeah I remember! Ashei I think her name is. I feel like I remember seeing her picture or something like her father's picture in the mansion somewhere
Ok, here's an old theory by Macintyre productions. The Snowpeak ruins were originally constructed by the royal family of Hyrule as a fortress to protect themselves. The ruins are in a remote location and can be easily defended, since there is only one way in and is well stocked with weapons and artillery. The coat of arms seen throughout the ruins could be the sigil of the royal guard since we see the same sigil in Hyrule Castle. The ruins likely served as a fortress where the royal family and their court would hide during times of crisis, such as a war. It is likely that it was used during the Guerodo-Hylian war. While the war rages on, the royal family would be hiding in the fortress, far away from the front and safe if the war ever reached Castle Town. It could be that after the war, the Hylians were so busy with reconstruction that the fortress was abandoned and left to rot. It could also be that, with the Guerodo wiped out, the Hylians no longer saw the need for it, based on the state of Hyrule's military. All the soldiers are cowards, and weren't prepared for the Twilight invasion. It could also explain why we don't see the royal guard, they were likely disbanded after the war.
I believe that the Snowpeak Ruins belonged to the royal family. It's not a fortress or outpost, it's too elaborately decorated and appears to have offered many comforts. It's clear that this was a manor for someone both wealthy and worth protecting. Also, since there are symbols and decorations connected to the royal family, it more than implies that the Snowpeak Ruins were built for them. Perhaps it served as a vacation getaway or second home for the royals during better times.
In the Wind Waker, why does the cabana on Private Oasis have a basement reminiscent of the game's Earth Temple, full of Re-deads, with a triforce treasure chart in it?
I've always wondered this.
And who was the real owner or first owner of it
@@ernshaw78 and why is the door sentient?
@@FrahdChikun And why has the sentient door been eagerly awaiting "Master Link" for such a long time?
I don’t entirely know the Zelda timeline but I do know that the song of storms is in oracle of seasons if that clears up the paradox a bit
Thurstenator but that was after oot
That possibly makes it more confusing.
I think it's about time to introduce a new LoZ race and the Zonai would be a very interesting and cool to introduce into the next game.
I agree.
Maybe the next game could take place when Calamity Ganon was first resurrected, before the events of Botw. Maybe that could dwell more on the Sheikah and Zonai races. I for one would love to see that, either in the next Zelda game or the one after. It could show Hyrule before it was fully developed and destructed in Botw's events...
Hufflepuff Of Time Branching out on that thought. What if the trailer for the botw sequel is actually... a flashhhh back :;))) to when malice was released? Eh idk pfffft
@@samuelhatlestad6676 Wow, that's creepy that I wrote about botw 2 a month before the trailer got out!
Yeah, I for one thinks it take place in the past, that Zelda and link are going to go back in time before the first Great Calamity and do things to stop him
I wonder who those Zonai guys were
The song is like Beethoven's 5th in that doctor who episode. It doesn't have a point of origin, it exists in a closed time loop
Zeltik: The only time we've seen link fight a bird like such would be the Helmrock king in Windwaker.
ThunderBird: Am I a joke to you?
LieThePenguin also he’s not necessarily fighting it. That’s a pretty iconic image of him with sword and shield, facing a bird that looks a lot like the ones in skyward sword. Facing, not fighting. The sword is angled down, not raised in combat.
Honestly, that was my first thought, as well. Still wrong timeline, but it could just be an Easter egg.
Helmrock King is also in Four Swords Adventures.
Cucco: YOUR TIME AS THE HERO WILL END IN MY INSANE WRATH I AM THE ULTIMATE BIRD
my fave is the identity of the ghost collector in Ocarina. I'd like to think it's the kid from the graveyard, but I'd rather it be a mystery forever.
Also just... everything about Majora's Mask.
The most common theories about Ghost Collector is either the kid, like you said, or the guard that wished there were more troubles in the world.
The Song of Storms is what's known as a "Predestination Paradox", in which the attempt to change the past creates what you know already as the present. It also goes toward disproving the idea of multiple timelines that Nintendo put out (Really, it's all one timeline, and I had it all figured out until Tears of The Kingdom).
Now do an in-depth look at the Spiderhouses.
The Oceanside Spiderhouse alone is stuffed to the gills with unsolved mysteries and questions.
Why was it built as an underground shelter in the first place?
Another thing to think about: if the snowpeak ruins were built by the royal family, who where they protecting themselves from, and if the place wasn't built by the royal family, then who else could afford to build that place, and who was dangerous enough to warrant the place existing with all that armour.
Every royal family or leader of a nation has some kind of bunker somewhere for the worst case scenario. So it is no surprise if the mansion belongs to them.
I’m really surprised you didn’t mention any of the pictures that can be found at Snowpeak Ruins! It really adds to the mystery even further, as it should be impossible for some of those pictures to exist at all. There are pictures of both the Sky Temple and the Temple of Time ruins, which during the events of Twilight Princess were supposed to have been completely lost to the ages for centuries. But it’s clear that these are recent pictures as they are identical to how they look in-game. Also there is a picture of the recently deceased Zora Queen and another of an unidentified man, which I’m guessing is Snowpeak’s owner. Clearly the owner was in the know on a lot of things going on in Hyrule that were considered mysteries themselves. There are people who theorized that same man is Rauru as they look very similar if I remember right, but I’m not really certain on that one way or the other. In any case ! feel like this stuff really should’ve been in the video though!
The Forgotten Temple in BoTW is pretty mysterious. All those guardians there, its clearly a key location and got hit hard during the calamity, but what is it?
It is the sealed temple from Skyward Sword, the last room bears great resemblance to the temple. If you look at the statue of the goddess and the overall layout of the room you can see it.
Conclusion:
The monster races are the ones who made the ruins. They’ve repeatedly been shown to be highly intelligent and social (and various incarnations of the Zora are enemies, and the Yetis themselves are apparently hunted to near extinction-I kinda threw up once I realized Ashei was wearing a Yeti corpse...and moments later you befriend yetis.)
So, Snowpeak could easily be where various races attempted to make a last stand, while the BotW ruins could be what these monster civilization(s) were like at their peak (personally I think the BotW ones fit Lizalfos eerily well. It makes sense for “little dragons” to worship a BIG dragon...and they’re everywhere in the City of the Sky...as is yet another (evil) dragon)
...and so far my brother claims that lynels leave Link alone in BotW unless he provokes them.
Intelligent “monsters”, siding only with Ganondorf out of desperation to not be hunted anymore, and finding a sort of kinship on occation with Gerudo and Sheikah who often suffer similar prejudice.
I agree!
this a very good theory u should make a video about it
tanisha -
...my tech skills are deplorable, and I was building off of Zeltik’s video. But if anyone wants to instead? YES PLEASE! 😁
To a Lynel "Making eye contact for too long" counts as provocation, as is "wandering too close."
Yeah while seeing the part about the arnours in the mansion my idea was that lizalfos probably were a sentient working class type and that they were also used as guardians for the royal family. At some point they may have been corrupted or just joined the side of evil and they underwent a devolution of sorts causing the savages we see in games.
Zeltik: the zonal ruins are very mysterious
Also zeltik: get to play ToTK for 65 minutes
One mystery I like is who were the dark tribe that created Majora's Mask? I also like the mystery of who were the Dark Interlopers who eventually became the Twili from the Realm of Twilight?
I believe one and the same. it makes sense that they made the mask and were then banished to the twilight realm for making something so uncontrollably powerful. not to mention their art is all the smae, I think that was the idea. even the armor midna wears has the majora looking art on it.
The tribe that created Majora's Mask could be the ones that created the Zonai ruins. They have the same tribal motif going on though the city where they lived always being covered in darkness seems too on the nose.
ViviSectia not to mention they haven’t really made a strong sequel to a zelda game since majoras mask and the trailer so far looks dark or i at least heard it would be a dark game.
I saw a meme for Did You Know Gaming that claimed the Majora Mask was inspired by South American tribes. I had a weird dream experience (bare with me if you will) where I wad in a Zelda game or something and i wss in a tropical jungle or something and there were ruins of a civilization and straw like hats on the structures like the Skull Kid’s hat. Majora was there. After i had that dream at some point infound the meme of the dupposed fact about the inspiration and I was very tripped out. I’ve always loved Majoras Mask the most for its deep complex mysterious psychedelic and dark themes. Ive had other dreams that related to the game as well.
I would feel bad for everyone who hasn't played BOTW yet. But I'm actually jealous because they still have the opportunity to experience that amazing game for the first time. A must play
I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion. I bought that game on its release day & have regretted it. I tried to keep an open mind & wanted to like it, but being an oldschool Zelda player from the NES games, it just didn't do it for me. It brought back, and even worse, magnified too many things from Skyward Sword (a game I also didn't like at all) that I disliked---things breaking (shields only in SS vs. everything in BotW), collecting all kinds of stuff for crafting (I just hate collectathons & loved how A Link Between Worlds limited it to just 3 things---horns, guts & claws), brought back the stamina meter from SS that I hated (which closes the world), didn't like the lack of dungeons in proportion to the size of the world, hated the shrines (they felt like they were lazy attempts to make up for the lack of dungeons & many were too similar), didn't like the lack of music, the lack of any meaningful reason for me to want to explore the world (no lasting items or heart pieces/containers to find, just stuff that all breaks ultimately), the size of the world vs. meaningful stuff filling it up like the 2d games & Majora's Mask had much more of, more than half of the deaths I took were by things the camera didn't even allow me to see, the damn Koroks as lazy fillers for actual secrets, the horrible horse controls when Twilight Princess (Wii version at least) had perfect horse controls...I could go on.
I never played one of these Skyrim type games before since I'm mostly a retro gamer so it was a new experience & one I just didn't like. I would've probably been ok with it had it not been a Zelda game, but it being a Zelda game brings certain expectations and the game just didn't deliver on any of the key expectations for me. The one thing I actually liked a lot about the game---the cliff scaling---was ruined by the rain that fell making it too slippery to climb. Or other times it was ruined by the stamina gauge. As much as they pretend the game is "open world", these things closed it quite a bit & forced the player to upgrade to be able to reach certain areas. The first Zelda game still remains the most open Zelda game as you can reach Level-9 (enter it but you'll need the 8 ToW pieces to advance beyond the 2nd room) without anything other than bombs that certain enemies in the overworld can drop. It's like they wanted to add elements of realism to BotW, but that to me is ridiculous. It's incomprehensible to me why the latest installment of the series which started its 1st game with the subtitle of "The hyrule Fantasy" would want to include elements of realism in it (and those weren't even entirely real as the moment it stops raining, you can climb cliffs again in the game, which would never happen if trying to scale a wet cliff after rain stops in real life). I also liked the less linearity it had (the freedom it gave the player where to go), but that too was compromised by upgrades & stuff you needed to collect to reach or survive certain areas & the glider thing you needed that closed up the opening part of the game.
So it depends on the person & what their preferences are, whether this game is a must-play. It's definitely not for everyone. I have friends online who like it & those who don't, so I know I'm not the only one. I think the best thing Nintendo could do is maintain the traditional Zelda formula & make a new IP featuring a series of games with the gameplay that BotW has. It would've been nice had they released 2 games the day BotW was released---one that played like a traditional 3D Zelda game and one that would be what BotW was and have their worlds interact/combine like the Oracle games, but in far greater depth using the current technology at hand. The traditional Zelda game could've been set in hyrule & the BotW style game could've been set in Lorule & been tied to the Zelda IP as the pilot game in the series to make more people want to buy it but later on get disconnected to Zelda & become its own thing with its own characters. That would've given players the option to play the games seperately or together, allowing for multiple experiences/replayability. I'd hate to wash my hands off a series that I first played 30+ years ago & have enjoyed more than any other because the general formula was dumped in favor of a modern fad, but unfortunately that's how I see it happening.
I can see why Nintendo would want to do that though---because making a game that plays like BotW (minimal dungeons, mostly empty world considering its size other than fighting enemies, shrines, some towns, Koroks, and collecting tons of material) takes a lot less effort than it takes making a game that has 6-10 dungeons that are all completable without softlocking with different visual themes, puzzles, etc. plus an overworld full of secrets.
It's so cool to find out BotW was hinting at the setup for TotK with the Zonai
The paradox about the song of storms is called the Bootstrap paradox! It's also explained/featured in Doctor Who, for those interested
Hope we’ll find more about the Zonaï in the sequel of BotW
Piggy backing off the Song of Storms time loop...I think its also implied that Link is the one who weakened the seal beneath the well, eventually resulting in Bongo Bongo's escape. After all, playing the Song of Storms as a kid drained the well in the past, and the well remains drained 7 years in the future too. Perhaps the act of draining the well was the first domino in a long sequence of events that caused the seal to break?
nothing from majora's? how about the hand coming out from the toilet also in skyward sword?
And in oracle of seasons
That is a Japanese horror story. Red paper blue paper is another name for it.
Maybe anjus mother put it there as a prank for Link
Its just a common Japanese urban legend they put in there for fun
@@Agaettis I just thought anjus mother put it there as a prank for Link because she doesn't like him
1:18 WELL GUESS WHAT
I dunno if it helps, but the crossed rapiers on the coat of arms at Snowpeak look like the Wind Waker.
I've always wondered where all of those extremely powerful magic items came from and went. The only ones with that kind of info in the games (that I know of) are the various magic/sacred swords
I see a lion in the crest so maybe its a reference to The King of Red Lions giving you the Wind Waker
It's possible but this could also be a dead end because it is unclear whether the Wind Waker exists at the time of OoT - or whether it was created under the rule of King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule - or perhaps even later than that to help traverse the Great Sea.
That's called an anomaly in time my dude
Something that manifested in a closed time loop
Same with the Goron Vase in in Oracle of ages