Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 06 February 2024

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Комментарии • 242

  • @Adjudicator246
    @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +19

    In the early days Sibiya's version was not clear to his lawyers and the court. Mngo had to keep going to Sibiya to get clarity. Between them, Sibiya and Mngo, they kept tweaking the version as witnesses and new evidence came in. It is being re-tweaked by Sibiya as a solo effort now. This could prove detrimental to Sibiya's main trail as well as his trial-with-in-a-trial. What prosecution is doing now is placing Sibiya's new version on record. This will limit further tweaking of the version going forward.

    • @beewest5704
      @beewest5704 11 месяцев назад +3

      Is it tweaking or different versions because he is not truthful. Only lies change.

    • @johnnymohane4494
      @johnnymohane4494 11 месяцев назад +8

      I agree . From the outset there was no proper consultation between the accused and the defending lawyers . Criminal cases require too much of consultation and research. The defense relied on what they heard from the accused and seems not have scrutinized it in depth. There are many loopholes on the defense side . There is still a long journey to cross exam the accused . The defense paid more attention on the assault ignoring that there is no medical evidence or report to substantiate the alleged assault . Furthermore the answers of the Mr Sibiya are inconsistent with the questions of the defense . Several times the defense stated that the accused will say that , but now we don't hear that from the accused .

    • @vhahangwelerammbuda92
      @vhahangwelerammbuda92 11 месяцев назад +3

      The only different is if someone spoke to you can't capture all what you said and the only truths is on you , I don't blame the accused

    • @pholobian
      @pholobian 11 месяцев назад +5

      I so wish I could put this in my home language but let try King Charles language. Sibiya and Mngomezulu are not contradicting one another, it's Sibinda whose putting a wrong version to the accused. For example Gininda said he was not on a particular place, where Muzi said Gininda was also present. So Sibanda he read the last part of Mngomezulu and Gininda Cross examination. Where he said, Mngomezulu said to Gininda he must not answer for what happened in that particular place in question which I forgot, that's regards as a hearsay. Why Mngomezulu said that it is because Gininda refused to be in that place. But what was put to him is that the accused person said he was there. So for me Sibanda his the one that is putting the wrong narrative to fit his version.

    • @gino3mapodise216
      @gino3mapodise216 11 месяцев назад

      M L

  • @mightramases6895
    @mightramases6895 11 месяцев назад +8

    Sibiya thinks that he’s smart,he is against everything that his lawyer said

    • @johnledwaba8551
      @johnledwaba8551 11 месяцев назад

      He is lying bro

    • @Sibongumusantshangase
      @Sibongumusantshangase 11 месяцев назад

      Yhoooh it's painful to hear him throw Adv Mngomezulu's efforts straight into the dust bin 🚮. There are instances where he even denies what he told Advocate🤔🤔🤔

  • @keikantsengjoan9614
    @keikantsengjoan9614 11 месяцев назад +15

    Sibande is not only dull but very disrespectful especially when he addressed the judge and the fellow learned friends he is a professional and knows the court protocol😮😮

  • @brianmazorodze4860
    @brianmazorodze4860 11 месяцев назад +4

    I am not a lawyer or a judge but if i were to hear that the arrested person at some point rather requested to be kept in prison (away from police) rather than the police station, it would be ridiculous to come to a conclusion that whatever confession he made in the presence of police (which he wanted to stay away from) was made freely and voluntarily. Just logic.

    • @tradingcoach523
      @tradingcoach523 11 месяцев назад +1

      at least you confirmed you are not a lawyer, we will take your opinion as that of a lay person. At law, things are not in black & white or too obvious as you may presume...

  • @rita_TM
    @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад +4

    this is why Rams can’t object:
    If lawyer “A” is conducting a direct examination of witness “X”, then lawyer “B” (representing the same client as lawyer “A”) can't ask questions or object during cross-examination of that witness.

  • @rita_TM
    @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад +6

    Guys these questions are from a form, but come on he already said that they made him sign but did not read out what was on the form, why is it difficult to understand this. A fair question to ask Muzi is if Mbotho read the proForma to him before asking him to sign

  • @rita_TM
    @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад +6

    1:32:25 this feels like déjà vu, didn’t Sibanda ask these questions yesterday, why is the judge not saying kuthi this witness already said this yesterday

  • @Dzhambila
    @Dzhambila 11 месяцев назад +4

    The guy doesn’t remember anything except what favors his version of events. He is definitely going down

  • @johnledwaba8551
    @johnledwaba8551 11 месяцев назад +4

    This boy is lying and he has selective ammensia. He only remembers only been beaten and forced to sign a written statement. He and his defense lawyer are saying something different. First sign of lying

    • @BabongileNcube-k2b
      @BabongileNcube-k2b 11 месяцев назад

      Other states witness were forgetting but when it comes to this witness he lying,this witness waz not recording to the not book like other witness

    • @BabongileNcube-k2b
      @BabongileNcube-k2b 11 месяцев назад

      Who's not lying coz all the cops were fabricating the story,when there were asked about recoding book there were talking differ,but this witness waz not recording anywhere

  • @thokozanimbuyisa-ld8hf
    @thokozanimbuyisa-ld8hf 11 месяцев назад +10

    Police brutality is serious problems in South Africa especially against black people.

  • @seantowanda8702
    @seantowanda8702 11 месяцев назад +20

    When Tumelo zungu could not remember or estimate time it was not a problem

    • @Adjudicator246
      @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +3

      This guy is over doing it. It is at his own peril.

    • @beewest5704
      @beewest5704 11 месяцев назад

      One or 2 questions but selective memory is suspicious.

    • @thetad1242
      @thetad1242 11 месяцев назад +1

      They are not in the box. They are not accused in this case

    • @mthokozisihappyndlovu586
      @mthokozisihappyndlovu586 11 месяцев назад

      Not that he don’t remember but those questions where not asked and meaning they act as if they asked him but they didn’t and hence he says those questions where not asked and means he signed something that he didn’t write and the question where nothing to do with the statement he signed 2:21:39

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад

      True that and the defense would be told to be fair to the witness please while frowning and throwing hands

  • @reubenmpilombangatha7841
    @reubenmpilombangatha7841 11 месяцев назад +15

    If the state did not take the accused to a district surgeon to be examined whether they were assaulted or not as they alleged then the accused evidence shall stand and it will be extremely difficult for the state to prove confessions. I believe that the pathetic evidence of the dentist is going to discarded by the court..

    • @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em 11 месяцев назад +5

      In short, are you saying the state must take each and every person who makes a confession to the doctor? This guy is contradicting himself, everyone around him doesn't know how to do his job including his own representative. You think the court won't take that into account?

    • @reubenmpilombangatha7841
      @reubenmpilombangatha7841 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      The contradictions made by the accused are not material such that the court could definitely rule in favour of the state.. there are serious material defects in the state case like the issue of assault which the state did not prove beyond doubt that the accused were never assault...that's a very serious defect in the state case...if the police were honest that the accused were never assaulted why they did not take them to a district surgeon..that evidence stand and counts heavily in favour of the accused..

    • @reubenmpilombangatha7841
      @reubenmpilombangatha7841 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Adjudicator246 let me correct you my friend...the onus of proof lies with the state to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt...that is not the duty of the accused by law...the accused did lay charges against themselves..the state did therefore the onus of proof lies with the state...

    • @noxolosabulela340
      @noxolosabulela340 11 месяцев назад

      Danko. Most of these people that comment here knows nothing about the law. ​@@reubenmpilombangatha7841

    • @Adjudicator246
      @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +3

      In the trial within a trial, it is the defence that is accusing the state of assault, so the burden of proof lies with the party making the accusation - the defence
      In the main trial, it is the state that is accusing the defendents of murder, so the burden of proof lies with the party making the accusation - the state

  • @noxolosabulela340
    @noxolosabulela340 11 месяцев назад +11

    Ratha uthule ngathi akekho eCourt. Sibande is literally going nowhere with his questions

    • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
      @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 11 месяцев назад +2

      Sis Noxolo I disagree...the prosecutor is spot on here tearing apart the witness...(Sibiya)...6/2/2024

    • @malfan
      @malfan 11 месяцев назад +2

      Are we watching the same proceedings? He is doing an impressive job of destroying this witness's testimony.

    • @GUDANIMasibigiri
      @GUDANIMasibigiri 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us tearing accues by asking stupid questions 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 11 месяцев назад +21

    This prosecutor is well prepared and he takes the witness thru properly covering highly relevant aspects and m 99'9'9'9'% that the judge will find the confession to be admissible....he (prosecutor)'is causing a big division between the witness and his lawyer...6/2/2024

    • @loydisto
      @loydisto 11 месяцев назад

      Well said sir

    • @noxolosabulela340
      @noxolosabulela340 11 месяцев назад +4

      😂😂😂But his job is to prove the state's case beyond reasonable doubt. Not you cause conflict between Muzi n Mngo😂😂

    • @leeta28
      @leeta28 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@noxolosabulela340his job now is to get those confessions admitted and so far he’s doing well with Muzi’s selective memory

    • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
      @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 11 месяцев назад +2

      Even there Sis Noxolo the state will succeed... remember once the confession is admitted...the next thing is to wait for the sentence...6/2/2024

    • @johnledwaba8551
      @johnledwaba8551 11 месяцев назад

      Well said, and most people don't see it

  • @Ms_Mankotham
    @Ms_Mankotham 11 месяцев назад +6

    1:28:00 I was just waiting to hear why is the Judge not intervening to this line of questioning

  • @king7324
    @king7324 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is it not a must to take a recording when taking a confession from a accused? So that you don't leave anything behind when writing a statement

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад

      The recordings done by the white judge were not accepted by defence aftetlistening to it and said it was taken unlawfully

  • @KennyMulaudzi
    @KennyMulaudzi 11 месяцев назад +2

    Even the other accused can see this guy is selling himself to the state advocate 😂😂😂😂

  • @msebenzi_lajobe
    @msebenzi_lajobe 11 месяцев назад +2

    Is this Sibiya guy okay? He is not only contradicting with the court and his attorney with himself also😮😮😮😮😮Khuluma lokwatiko bhuti uphendvule kahle hhayi lokubuyela emuva utiphikise

  • @BhekaniPhewa-nn4qx
    @BhekaniPhewa-nn4qx 11 месяцев назад +1

    Will resume at 11:00, not 10 :00. They miss leading us

  • @YTL-hi5ll
    @YTL-hi5ll 11 месяцев назад +1

    2:13:49 can defence be granted similar treatment by the Judge

  • @thulanithulzmbele
    @thulanithulzmbele 11 месяцев назад +1

    Stupid questions from this prosecutor and this biased judge is doing nothing about it,
    How irritating 🤷😡😡😡🚶

  • @maryanndiamond1690
    @maryanndiamond1690 11 месяцев назад +6

    The country is watching and this we shall not pass!!!! Mark my words the state must fall. Send you vibrations out people.

  • @sindiswazwane9095
    @sindiswazwane9095 11 месяцев назад +4

    What happened to Baloyi?

  • @zanelexulu4541
    @zanelexulu4541 11 месяцев назад +14

    Sibanda Musa ukuhlukumeza Sibiya ngoba niyalazi iqiniso.Niyamazi owabulala Senzo

    • @Smilekeeperwabo
      @Smilekeeperwabo 11 месяцев назад +3

      And bazi.kahle

    • @Smilekeeperwabo
      @Smilekeeperwabo 11 месяцев назад +7

      Uyaphapha lo ngoba bayazi ukuthi akambulalanga uSenzo bona nje bazifonela imali ka Chico

    • @sbusisoguajie4007
      @sbusisoguajie4007 11 месяцев назад

      En bayamazi Bahama kumuvikela😢

    • @gladysmkhize4085
      @gladysmkhize4085 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Smilekeeperwabo u rich kangakanani loChicco ongakhokhela abantu abaningi kangaka I billioners

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад

      Nanikona kutetwa nge evidenceu hearsay akangen eNkanolo

  • @BonganiMncube
    @BonganiMncube 11 месяцев назад +3

    Witness is sinking

  • @thulanithulzmbele
    @thulanithulzmbele 11 месяцев назад +1

    ...By the way, How can an experienced prosecutor forget two (only 2) lines😂😂😂
    This is ridiculous 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Dzhambila
      @Dzhambila 11 месяцев назад

      It’s not the two lines , it the page where the lines can be located.

  • @rita_TM
    @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад

    If police ask you to sign after they had beat you up can you say " No I don't want to sign without my lawyer"? Please legal people, can one do that?

    • @NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps
      @NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps 11 месяцев назад +1

      Aslong usafuna induku more .wen police want u to do something they will make sure they get it.

    • @rita_TM
      @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад

      @@NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps exactly

    • @takalaniterencekhakhu3489
      @takalaniterencekhakhu3489 11 месяцев назад

      Now the problem is sibiya denying signing those documents. If he was saying yes he signed but under the duress and for the fear of being assaulted

    • @rita_TM
      @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад

      @@takalaniterencekhakhu3489 but he did say he signed it

  • @Adjudicator246
    @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +7

    It is highly improbable the Sibiya cannot remember most events.
    This is less the four years ago and he is a young man. His memory is at its prime!

    • @thandicindi6413
      @thandicindi6413 11 месяцев назад +5

      I agree, being tortured physically, mentally or emotionally brings trauma and if one torture after the other, certain things can escape one’s mind. Anyone who has given evidence in court will know this. It becomes even more difficult if the witness is a layman. Barristers, Advocates however you want to call them, twist questions and that would irritate anyone. It does not matter how calm a person is but answering the same questions will end up irritating.

    • @Adjudicator246
      @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@thandicindi6413 Agreed. Under such durress, one might not remember verbatim or with clarity. One would at least remember the gist of the questions or conversations.

  • @ingridnthau4448
    @ingridnthau4448 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder how did Mgo feel when his client testify the opposite of his version

  • @Champ_Samaritan
    @Champ_Samaritan 11 месяцев назад +3

    This prideful small prosecutor with his shoulders high like feathers of peacock even calling his learned friends by name without respect

    • @takalaniterencekhakhu3489
      @takalaniterencekhakhu3489 11 месяцев назад +1

      But that what the defense was doing to Baloyi. Is it fair on others but not to others, hmmmmm

  • @lindabenedictmdlalose8530
    @lindabenedictmdlalose8530 11 месяцев назад

    When are the Khumalos coming in? When is the 2nd docket coming in? Why did the police request Chicco Twala's gun for testing? Why was there a squabble in the house between Llongwe and Zandi Khumalo? Was Llongwe Twala ever invited to that gathering at the Khumalos? If not, why wasn't he invited? At what stage did he come in? How come he left the house when his so called girlfriend was in danger after the arrival of the so-called intruders? So when he went pass the intruders carrying a gun, they just relaxed like that, not knowing whether he's going to call for help, mobilize the community to fight the two intruders, or call the cops? How did he run at disappeared, and not use one of the cars in the yard? Did he arrived at Khumalos with the car or he used public transport? When he managed to ran outside, whom did he call for help as he was not robbed of anything by the intruders? At what stage did he come back? How did he know that it was safe to come back to the Khumalos? Now second person also went pass the intruders and went outside and jumped the fence and lended up at Ncashe's yard, and the intruders allowed that to happen with no injuries sustained for defying the order to hand in all their cellphones and valuables? And he's unsure as to how many gunshot he heard while he was outside, but certain that it was two, but the third sound was not clear enough as to whether it was a gunshot or what. And Kelly Khumalo standing in the passage doing nothing to assist Senzo who was fighting with the intruder carrying the gun. And 2nd intruder with a knife/gun allowed people to went pass them to go outside, others bedroom or bathroom. And the 3rd male what happed to him did he eventually ran outside like others leaving one male against 2 male intruders. And Kelly Khumalo calling Chicco Twala to inform him about the incident while Chicco's son ran outside unharmed. And the family of the harmed, wounded and deceased are not told first. And now Tumelo Madlala telephoning Senzo's family to inform them about the incident telling them who did it and that it was a mistake, is now singing a different tune now. There's a 1000 of unconnecteddots here. Sale usubuya Nkosi Jesu.

  • @MjoePta
    @MjoePta 11 месяцев назад +7

    Sibiya is lying through his teeth.... now he is making it as if Mngomezulu came up with his own versions that are not the same as his

    • @HarryMzwane
      @HarryMzwane 11 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @theodorahmpunga7350
      @theodorahmpunga7350 11 месяцев назад +1

      Mngomezulu was telling his side of his story,I knew that I will be here telling my own side.😂😂😂😂 Kuningi kwaba ababini

    • @johnledwaba8551
      @johnledwaba8551 11 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed he is lying, there is no way that a advocate can say this and his clients says the opposite. Something does not add up

    • @MjoePta
      @MjoePta 11 месяцев назад

      @@johnledwaba8551 exactly!!! so according to him now his advocate has been fabricating some of the things

    • @johnledwaba8551
      @johnledwaba8551 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MjoePta it seems so

  • @naledzanimudau586
    @naledzanimudau586 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sibanda is asking the same question he asked yesterday u Judge naye okare o tshweri ke stroke, he is no quite. NPA is wasting our time lana

  • @nkosimkho2854
    @nkosimkho2854 11 месяцев назад +5

    The fact that this lawyer is using pen and paper to record and quote events that happened in the past is pathetic when looking at the fact that the accused is expected to record the past events accurately using his medulla oblongata, it raises questions as to who drafted this pathetic roman law?

    • @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em 11 месяцев назад +3

      You cannot under any circumstances compare a lawyer to the accused!! In case you are not aware even the defense counsels used pen and paper throughout cross examination!!!

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад +1

      Futhermore you will neverforget the details when something very bad that turned your life around but again people are not the same

    • @lubabalotshitshi2106
      @lubabalotshitshi2106 11 месяцев назад

      Both of you are contradicting yourself here, all state witnesses had they testimony or statements to refer too, some were even given chance to read certain things while Sibiya has no documents and its easy to say if it's the truth you will remember yet some events took place 3 years and 5 months back. You lot are hypocrites

    • @lupeacekangelani7347
      @lupeacekangelani7347 11 месяцев назад

      @@MahlapeShabangu-jm7emsometimes one would wonder if really understand & follow court procedures and proceedings yhaz

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад +1

      I still repeat myself when a painful experience happen to you, you never forget unless you made it up, lies and foction can be eadily forgotten

  • @lindabenedictmdlalose8530
    @lindabenedictmdlalose8530 11 месяцев назад +1

    Waze wabhatyaza ummeli wombuso fiddling with a lot of paperwork

  • @tradingcoach523
    @tradingcoach523 11 месяцев назад

    Please bring back Baloyi... that man is the best in articulation, conduct & reason...

  • @sylviaramatsoele
    @sylviaramatsoele 11 месяцев назад

    This case is so difficult 🤔🤞🤞

  • @segamogotlha5290
    @segamogotlha5290 11 месяцев назад

    *"**5:18:22** A CLEAR VIEW THAT ONE HAS TO ACCOMMODATE MR SIBIYA QUESTIONING: HOW DID YOU TRAVEL? SIBIYA REPLIED "I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE TAKING ME TO" COZ SIBIYA DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CLEARLY*

  • @Wele1012
    @Wele1012 11 месяцев назад +3

    Sibiya kodwa out of 100% of questions asked you only agreed to 12% of them, 88% uyaphika you are digging own grave bhuti

    • @wandisilekajolinkomomphank5333
      @wandisilekajolinkomomphank5333 11 месяцев назад

      Sibiya is right or even anyone who is on the stand, you say something that you are not sure of because you might incriminate yourself

    • @MjoePta
      @MjoePta 11 месяцев назад +1

      when u telling the truth its easy to remember everything but when u lying ull end up not answering

    • @Wele1012
      @Wele1012 11 месяцев назад

      @@wandisilekajolinkomomphank5333it’s a pity because he is not doing himself a favour and worse he is debunking all what advocates Mngomezulu put to the court

    • @braeemmaa
      @braeemmaa 11 месяцев назад

      So you expect him to agree even if it's not what happened so that he can match the story of Vaseline and Ginyimbila????

  • @cyrilbaloyi1668
    @cyrilbaloyi1668 10 месяцев назад

    Are you ready

  • @YTL-hi5ll
    @YTL-hi5ll 11 месяцев назад

    1:18:34 Rams was not involved in Trial within Trial

    • @ERT-rt2rt
      @ERT-rt2rt 11 месяцев назад

      He was. Remember around the time he introduced Adv Mngo. Also, he didn't deny it when it was mentioned in court today?

  • @thandicindi6413
    @thandicindi6413 11 месяцев назад +2

    How are the layman witnesses expected to know that they supposed to oppose everything said by the police? Is this clout chasing Advocate ok?

    • @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em 11 месяцев назад

      This clout chasing advocate is on his way to getting a conviction! Those who know, know this!!!

    • @MjoePta
      @MjoePta 11 месяцев назад

      why did he oppose to some of the other things and chose not to oppose to others?? thats being very selective. whenever he had an objection he kept raising his hand all the time

    • @thandicindi6413
      @thandicindi6413 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MjoePta he would have to raise his hand for everything he did not agree with and that would have caused a problem for him. He would be told off, as he says that he was waiting for his time to elaborate on every evidence. Given that he is a layman, he assumed because he is not trained.

    • @gladysmkhize4085
      @gladysmkhize4085 11 месяцев назад +1

      Layman or killer hitman he know everything about court cases

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад

      Cloud chaser enje

  • @seantowanda8702
    @seantowanda8702 11 месяцев назад +9

    This small baloyi is badgering the witness and is very disrespectful

    • @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em 11 месяцев назад +6

      So far you are the only one who thinks he is disrespectful! Everyone who is not doing what you guys want is bought or disrespectful! This guy is maintaining the court decorum and by far he is not even using emotions like the defense

    • @khanyilekhanyile436
      @khanyilekhanyile436 11 месяцев назад

      He is disrespectful I agree with you

  • @ingridnthau4448
    @ingridnthau4448 11 месяцев назад

    I like how Mtanzi is laughing at Sibiya

  • @mphomokgatle8243
    @mphomokgatle8243 11 месяцев назад

    Lol...Ratha not impressed with Sibande...he says: how can you forget two lines...looking irritated 😅

  • @thulanidngubane8603
    @thulanidngubane8603 11 месяцев назад +9

    That's a problem when you go to court to expect the accused persons to make sense of your senseless case. That's why Baloi 😂 ran away from X examining accused. Sibiya has won this case fair and square. Prosecutor is now asking questions that are incriminating senior police. Prosecutor admitting crime being commited😂

    • @macmandla3582
      @macmandla3582 11 месяцев назад +2

      U must be watching a different case

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад +2

      Looool

    • @BabongileNcube-k2b
      @BabongileNcube-k2b 11 месяцев назад

      Really that's why make any excuse,Baloi he's trouble coz on this case,since from reginal court the pay him to miss lead the case

  • @gabisilemabuza4099
    @gabisilemabuza4099 11 месяцев назад

    This prosecutor seems to "not make sure"

  • @segamogotlha5290
    @segamogotlha5290 11 месяцев назад +1

    *"IMAGINE SIBIYA HAS TO MAN-UP ON HIS OWN WHILE BEING PTSD BY moloyi, gininda, rotha AND "A FET SO NEED A COMFORT BREAK!!!!"*

  • @mxolisidladla9267
    @mxolisidladla9267 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ratha is biases judge

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад +2

      More than the word it's so evident

  • @siphacshi9764
    @siphacshi9764 11 месяцев назад +1

    U Sibiya uyalazi iqiniso lento ka Angisakhumbuli kodwa ngiyakhumbula ayikho u cannot forget what questions u were asked but when specific questions that are on a document you signed without knowing what you signing u suddenly certain that those set of questions were not asked. And his got questions that he just choose not to answer. This man did confess but his legal representatives advised him wrong to deny everything and claim to be assaulted without a proof against a mountain of evidence that no where Muzi Sibiya was ever assaulted

    • @mduduzimhlongo5976
      @mduduzimhlongo5976 11 месяцев назад +3

      Me and you remember that we answered questions on a question paper sometimes at school but neither of us remember those questions. But if I can ask you what was never on a question paper you will remember that the questions were not on a question paper

  • @SiphoHerbertDlamini
    @SiphoHerbertDlamini 11 месяцев назад

    Evidence of the dentist will be accepted bc he is a profession in his work rather than a layman

    • @rita_TM
      @rita_TM 11 месяцев назад

      But his evidence is neither here nor there, all he had to do was check if he had a gold tooth or not. Anything else there is no proof

    • @braeemmaa
      @braeemmaa 11 месяцев назад

      That was nonsense, how can you accept a dentist report when a surgeon or a GP report was meant to be, why choose to take a specialty of dentistry only to substantiate a possible assault yet the dentist is not qualified to examine and report on other body organs, for instance, how will teeth examination find or establish soft tissue injury and myalgia from crush injuries from the assault. People really are not educated I see😅😅😅😂

  • @dorcasmotsepe2288
    @dorcasmotsepe2288 11 месяцев назад +3

    Mr procecutor you are confused,you taking statements from accused 1 instead accused 2.

    • @Adjudicator246
      @Adjudicator246 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think he is trying to trap Sibiya into unwittingly showing that Sibiya remembers more that what he pretend he does. Its a vary precarious position for Sibiya.

    • @noxolosabulela340
      @noxolosabulela340 11 месяцев назад

      Confused nje lo.. Ayikho indaba yakhe

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад

      He is craving fat cakes (amagwinya)

    • @dorcasmotsepe2288
      @dorcasmotsepe2288 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@noxolosabulela340He's trying to be famous.

  • @ontiretsemokubetsi9963
    @ontiretsemokubetsi9963 11 месяцев назад

    This, I don't remember, doesn't help him

  • @johannamaseko6644
    @johannamaseko6644 8 месяцев назад

    Kwenzakalani guys

  • @salocalnews
    @salocalnews 11 месяцев назад

    Cellphone 📱 location can be proven, they do not need to rely on car tracker. Lawyers are slow in this matter. The prosecution is using Cellphone records against the accused.

  • @thulanidngubane8603
    @thulanidngubane8603 11 месяцев назад +3

    There is logic in what accused number one testimony. He is not going to validate or rely on Gininda testimony. Sibiya is sticking to his guns . Whether right or wrong. Sibiya is relying on Sibiya testimony, Sibiya is relying on Sibiya not Swanepoel 😂

    • @Mazungu1
      @Mazungu1 11 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂mxm Sibande naye.. kwezinye izindawo uya phulwa umthetho akazi yen🚮

  • @mamkhwa8286
    @mamkhwa8286 11 месяцев назад

    Sibanda forgets two lines.

  • @Sanele_Cruz
    @Sanele_Cruz 11 месяцев назад +3

    Sibanda didn't get enough attention as a child probably...I'd be fcking annoyed with these nonsense questions asking the same thing again and again...akezwa yin kanti????

  • @leboganglebogang6981
    @leboganglebogang6981 11 месяцев назад

    Ths guy is asking 1 question 10 times

  • @SiphoHerbertDlamini
    @SiphoHerbertDlamini 11 месяцев назад

    Sibiya is in trouble by denying everything and also not remember. He must know is there to prove his innocence.to say he was assaulted is base less bc he never opened the case and no J88 supports that. No entries in OBs supports his allegations .The man is out hau can sign the documents without knowing what is contained

    • @gertrudemabunda4105
      @gertrudemabunda4105 11 месяцев назад

      He was beaten he even said he was scared of his life that is why he signed n how can he open a case while they where beating him

  • @ncumisandondo6901
    @ncumisandondo6901 11 месяцев назад +8

    Ejele kulapho eyakhona uSibiya

  • @mamkhwa8286
    @mamkhwa8286 11 месяцев назад

    I warmed up to Rams today.

  • @darkness_bros_69
    @darkness_bros_69 11 месяцев назад

    Wiiiiii Nsibande, unescefe

  • @zodwadlamini4213
    @zodwadlamini4213 11 месяцев назад

    Wena judge khohlakele kabi

  • @sushelarajkumar367
    @sushelarajkumar367 11 месяцев назад +3

    Yes very arrogant yoh WHY RATHA IS KEEPING QUIET NOW ....ALL ALONG HE WAS JUMPING AND SIDING WITH THE WITNESSES...

    • @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em
      @MahlapeShabangu-jm7em 11 месяцев назад +1

      This guy is not a witness. He is the accused and so far everyone who is doing their job is either lying or incompetent including his own defense 😂

    • @amukelanindindani2166
      @amukelanindindani2166 11 месяцев назад

      The moment he ascends to the witness box, he becomes a witness not the accused.

  • @Champ_Samaritan
    @Champ_Samaritan 11 месяцев назад +6

    weak prosecutor but prideful

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ngobubi

    • @SisTkitchen
      @SisTkitchen 11 месяцев назад

      He's trying to push performance bethuna 😂😂😂😂

    • @Bubu521
      @Bubu521 11 месяцев назад

      Very weak indeed

  • @Ms_Mankotham
    @Ms_Mankotham 11 месяцев назад

    Poor microphone. Motshwareng microphone a run 😂😂😂

  • @samkeloluthuli8153
    @samkeloluthuli8153 11 месяцев назад +2

    This procecutor is too weak, n going in circles

  • @ncumisandondo6901
    @ncumisandondo6901 11 месяцев назад +2

    USibiya uthi uMngomezulu uthethe into engekho and amaphoyisa nawo athethe amanga nguye kuphela othetha inyani😂😂😂

    • @gladysmkhize4085
      @gladysmkhize4085 11 месяцев назад +2

      Uucabanga ukuthi uhlakaniphile

    • @siphacshi9764
      @siphacshi9764 11 месяцев назад +3

      Nami ngihleli ngicabanga leyonto coz uphikisa izinto ezashiwo ummeli wakhe uphikisa okwashiwo amaphoyisa, i guess naleli Judge if limthola enecala uzothi iyabheda uyena osho into e right

  • @awethuzanga1631
    @awethuzanga1631 11 месяцев назад +4

    Not bad at all sibiya, He knows you on track, keep it that way bafo

  • @segamogotlha5290
    @segamogotlha5290 11 месяцев назад

    *"A QUESTION OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATION" SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO SIBIYA. (ADV MSHOLOLO)"*

    • @ntombikaysedanisa8645
      @ntombikaysedanisa8645 11 месяцев назад

      Noba zange uye eskolweni, inyo ebuhlungu eyehla kuwe ingakumbi utyholwa ngokubulala umntu owayebaluleke kangaka. Iminyaka emingaka ndihleli ngenxa yobuxoki bamapolisa i would remember everyone who separated me from my family, the pain the inflicted on me, ukulibala kangaka maar asifani. Okwesbini i consultation with his lawyer is not make sure.

  • @NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps
    @NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sibiya sinawe mfethu. Qina nje.

  • @thulanidngubane8603
    @thulanidngubane8603 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sibiya is spot on in his answers regarding the assault 😂 and trauma 😂

  • @Senzo_916
    @Senzo_916 11 месяцев назад

    VOUS SA Vai que je mapai senzo

  • @gumbitm7080
    @gumbitm7080 11 месяцев назад

    With this judge, all accused r guilty,

  • @ethalmathula4142
    @ethalmathula4142 11 месяцев назад

    Sibiya's thinks more than the graduates. Yes a picture IA lighter than the original. Why do they want marks on a picture while the assaulted is there

    • @LeevyMessiah6848
      @LeevyMessiah6848 11 месяцев назад

      Which minute was that moment?

    • @lesegokgotlhang6434
      @lesegokgotlhang6434 11 месяцев назад +1

      How do even prove that the current marks are due to that purppoted assault? Sibiya is a carrier criminal eho gets handcuffed time and again

  • @lindiignatius3912
    @lindiignatius3912 11 месяцев назад

    The version of been beaten up is very true police do that and even if u report u will not be taken seriously I have seen that happening to someone I know and when they bit u it will never be on the face cause that would be evident. So I believe the assault version the rest will have to be proven. Police assault it is a fact. When they ask u to show them where the incident happened they will bit u up till u confess. U will point out they tube them even. To report them it's a fruitless exercise

  • @JosephMoremi-c5h
    @JosephMoremi-c5h 11 месяцев назад +6

    A very weak prosecutor

  • @thandwayinkosidube-lc4mn
    @thandwayinkosidube-lc4mn 11 месяцев назад

    Sibiya usegcine wakwazi ukuphendula imibuzo yalezi khohlakali...

  • @nokuthuladladla8411
    @nokuthuladladla8411 11 месяцев назад +3

    Nabo Tumelo Madlala kwakunjalo bakhumbula abathandayo nawe Sibiya do the same

  • @diphapangmofokeng2709
    @diphapangmofokeng2709 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sibanda is asking stupid questions...how can you ask if Sibiya is not scared in court when seeing the cops. His save than in the police sells

  • @SmangeleDladla-y5g
    @SmangeleDladla-y5g 11 месяцев назад +3

    AI BO USIBANDA UZOZIZWA AMANDLA NGO SIBIYA, ULOKHU EBUZANA NENTO EYODWA.

    • @sarahvilane3789
      @sarahvilane3789 11 месяцев назад

      Basebenza kanjalo inhloso ukumdida ngemibuzo

    • @thandikote878
      @thandikote878 11 месяцев назад

      What a disgrace

  • @YTL-hi5ll
    @YTL-hi5ll 11 месяцев назад

    1:28:59 Thanks to the Judge. Defence not doing their Job

  • @mbuleloyilo6984
    @mbuleloyilo6984 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sibiya contradicted himself

  • @JosephMoremi-c5h
    @JosephMoremi-c5h 11 месяцев назад +1

    is true

  • @ravitalb1443
    @ravitalb1443 11 месяцев назад

    Sibiya is very rude he needs to come down and answer the questions

    • @lindabenedictmdlalose8530
      @lindabenedictmdlalose8530 11 месяцев назад

      My girl have you forgotten the arrogant and rude state witnesses who who are employed by govt but disrespected the court and the defence team, witnesses who who occupies higher position, calling male advocates "bafo" that Constable Zungu - devil is a liar.

  • @gladysmkhize4085
    @gladysmkhize4085 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ngamxoxela ummeli kusho.inkabi🤣

  • @sbonelondlela9348
    @sbonelondlela9348 11 месяцев назад

    So Mbotho answered the handcuff question after the he completed the document, or somehow he new about the swelling before he saw the injuries 😂😂😂😂

  • @thandwayinkosidube-lc4mn
    @thandwayinkosidube-lc4mn 11 месяцев назад

    Imibuzo iyacika straight

  • @keikantsengjoan9614
    @keikantsengjoan9614 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very weak prosecutor indeed

  • @danngobeni6260
    @danngobeni6260 11 месяцев назад +1

    😅😢

    • @lindiignatius3912
      @lindiignatius3912 11 месяцев назад

      Police always assault the accused in South Africa and even if they report it it's never taken that's why they never bit u on the face they use lower parts. And sometimes if u were badly hurt they don't bring u court. They make up a story that there was no transportation

  • @ncumisandondo6901
    @ncumisandondo6901 11 месяцев назад

    Mngomezulu is fired by Sibiya 😂😂😂

  • @Smilekeeperwabo
    @Smilekeeperwabo 11 месяцев назад

    Izizwana azihloni nje