Kudos to Christoper Passi for having the guts to play Ozma in full female regalia. I can't think of too many boys his age who would be that brave. And he actually does a pretty convincing job.
@@h193013 Ive seen that done. But the audience could tell from the start that this "boy" was a girl, so for those who didn't know the story, it sort of gave the game away.
@@briancooley8777 this one doesn’t fit what i remember perfectly either but i chalked it up to misremembering since i was like 5/6 last time i saw it lol. But it was a boy who in the end turned into a princess and it looked like it was made and acted bu a theater group. I found it because they had a vhs of it at the local blockbuster in northern Massachusetts lol what was yours like? I’m curious!
@@briancooley8777 It's probably RETURN TO OZ. There's a lot of scary stuff in that movie, which is a mash-up of this play's story, based on the second OZ book, and the plot of OZMA OF OZ, the third in the book series.
This storyline will be heavily criticized today if it ever gets made into a movie. I can already see Elon Musk's reaction if Hollywood will try to adapt the character of Tip/Ozma.
@@crixxxxxxxxx The whole "Glinda as villain" folderol started with Maguire's twisted parody of Oz. Before that, people took the film on its own merits and didn't question the blinking obvious.
@@MaskedMan66 But they have a point. Glinda sets Dorothy off on a dangerous quest to go meet a Wizard who ends up being a complete fraud while being pursued by the Wicked Witch. She could’ve spared her the entire ordeal and sent her back to Kansas instantly. And the 1939 film has had a lot more of a cultural impact than the original book.
I just read the chapter where Tiop turns back into a girl, and the line is not there that Tip says to Glinda, and her response is from the MGM film but to tip. So I think that and the Tin Woodman costume are nods to the MGM film placed in the second Oz book of the series, unless its in the stage production of the Woggle Bug which then turned into the book The Marvelous Land of oz. And Glinda in Wicked isn't horrible and defeatful in the book, she does tell Elphaba at her sisters funeral that the shoes had to get out of Munchkin Land or a civil war would start over them, she did what she had to do for the people of Oz and munchkin land not to be a bitch to Dorothy in Danger on Purpose. The only sad thing that has wanted this musical for me and their Alice in Wonderland is all the stuff about the company of teachers and directors who abused the boys and girls who are part of their season and even some of the adults in their shows. So its become hard to watch these now due to my own abuse as a kid and thinking how could they give great performances while under those conditions. But this stage adaptation of the second Oz book should be performed more regularly than it has been. The score is Great and fun and the book its as close to the book as possible. I was also a VHS kid with this film as well. lol
Maybe I missed this, who's the girl with red hair who hugs Tip? I see the Wogglebug, Scarecrow, Tin Woodsman, Jack, but I have no idea who the girl in green is? Is it Dorothy?
@@MaskedMan66 that's what I figured, I did read the book and thought it was cool how Ozma just rolled with it... My comment was more of a joke in that aside from the gender swap, she took this poor kid and wiped her mind clean and stuck her in the middle of the woods...
@@matthewweng8483 What woods? There was an anime series in Japan which covered the first, second, third, and sixth books, and in that version, Ozma took a while to shake off the "scamp" personality she'd acquired as Tip. She still wore pantaloons, climbed trees, and slid down banisters. It was a combination of Dorothy teaching her to be ladylike and a secret chamber in the Palace with an inscription only Ozma could read that finally brought her back to herself.
The audience are laughing at how ludicrous it is. It would have been so much mor sensible to have a girl play Ozma. The plot is already hard to swallow (much more so now) but having that boy in a dress was such a wrong headed decision.
You do know that the original book was written in 1904, right? Not to mention that transformations are frequently used in tales of fantasy. And by the way, if you can't handle the strange and bizarre, then you shouldn't be reading/watching fantasy in the first place.
@@MaskedMan66 I've read the book many times over. In the book, Tip is transformed from a boy to their original form as a girl. This is a young boy in a dress, so the audience laugh. The theatrical choice of having the child drag up, rather than having a girl play the role undermines the transformation and makes it seem comedic. The issue I refer to is the choice in this particular adaptation, not the source material. It's also not necessary to tell people how they should and should not live their lives because you feel you disagree with something they said (although you actually misunderstood) kindness and empathy go much further than being unpleasant. You can put forward an opinion without being unkind or rude, only those who can't converse resort to such tactics.
@@bigred8432 You mean *her* original form. You claim to hear people laughing. Did it occur to you that it might be Mr. Passi's friends? And what's any weirder about a boy playing a girl (especially if he's a delicately-featured boy as Mr. Passi was) than a girl playing a boy? It's pantomime tradition either way. Also, don't forget that it wasn't until a little over 300 years ago that anyone had even heard the term "actress." Men and boys used to play all roles in stage productions. It ain't no big thang. How did you perceive me as being "unkind or rude?"
Kudos to Christoper Passi for having the guts to play Ozma in full female regalia. I can't think of too many boys his age who would be that brave. And he actually does a pretty convincing job.
I liked the boy in this role but they could have also had Tip played by a girl and then become Ozma
@@h193013 Ive seen that done. But the audience could tell from the start that this "boy" was a girl, so for those who didn't know the story, it sort of gave the game away.
This show should come back I remember watching all of it on RUclips as a kid and loved the music. Also ozmas story was always very interesting
L. Frank Baum wrote the book in 1904.
This is just like the book
This is a very close adaptation indeed; the only major change is that Jellia goes along on the journey to the Tin Woodman's domain.
Omg i thought my memory of this was a fever dream i couldn’t find this anywhere
I still can’t find the fever dream oz movie I’m thinking of. I’m starting to think it really was a fever dream lol
@@briancooley8777 this one doesn’t fit what i remember perfectly either but i chalked it up to misremembering since i was like 5/6 last time i saw it lol. But it was a boy who in the end turned into a princess and it looked like it was made and acted bu a theater group. I found it because they had a vhs of it at the local blockbuster in northern Massachusetts lol what was yours like? I’m curious!
@@briancooley8777 It's probably RETURN TO OZ. There's a lot of scary stuff in that movie, which is a mash-up of this play's story, based on the second OZ book, and the plot of OZMA OF OZ, the third in the book series.
@@shannonbeaulieu3216 You may be thinking of the 1969 kiddie matinee _The Wonderful Land of Oz._
ruclips.net/video/lC--dPel-4o/видео.html
@@ChrisMaxfieldActs You missed where Chris said, "it looked like it was made and acted bu (sic) a theater group." RtO was a big-budget movie.
This storyline will be heavily criticized today if it ever gets made into a movie. I can already see Elon Musk's reaction if Hollywood will try to adapt the character of Tip/Ozma.
“It doesn’t hurt to be a girl” except when giving birth lol
Ozma is only ten.
and periods
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa429 Ozma is only ten, and an immortal fairy to boot.
Glinda with that, "you wouldn't have believed me" bullshit once again. She's the real villain of Oz.
Will you get out of there with that "Wicked" crap? This Glinda never met Dorothy until Dorothy's last day in Oz.
@@MaskedMan66 Wicked? Have you not seen the 1939 film?
@@crixxxxxxxxx The whole "Glinda as villain" folderol started with Maguire's twisted parody of Oz. Before that, people took the film on its own merits and didn't question the blinking obvious.
@@crixxxxxxxxx And again, this has nothing to do with the movie.
@@MaskedMan66 But they have a point. Glinda sets Dorothy off on a dangerous quest to go meet a Wizard who ends up being a complete fraud while being pursued by the Wicked Witch. She could’ve spared her the entire ordeal and sent her back to Kansas instantly. And the 1939 film has had a lot more of a cultural impact than the original book.
Omg I feel bad for jack pumkin head XD
I feel bad for the boy that had to play this part (tip)
Why?
@@briancooley8777 Why?
I never knew that Davros had a sister!
This could be seen as a pretty decent trans allegory. Man, L Frank Baum was really ahead of his time, eh?
Except for when he advocated the complete genocide of all Native Americans in his newspaper.
@@crixxxxxxxxx Well, he wasn't completely progressive it seems. Unfortunately, that kind of sentiment was normalized at the time...
I didn’t see it as that but it very well could be
If you actually want to see a version of Oz that tackles the trans angle of Ozma/Tip, Emerald City on NBC did it in a very interesting way.
@@blueestarr16 I believe I've heard of that show. Is it any good?
Father's are overrated Jack. You'll like your mother more.
Sexist.
I’ve watched this movie before on HBO. I think 💭 5 Times
It's not a movie; it's a video recording of a stage play.
When I first whacht it I had no idea what kids gender that plays tip and ozma was
His name is Christopher Passi.
I just read the chapter where Tiop turns back into a girl, and the line is not there that Tip says to Glinda, and her response is from the MGM film but to tip. So I think that and the Tin Woodman costume are nods to the MGM film placed in the second Oz book of the series, unless its in the stage production of the Woggle Bug which then turned into the book The Marvelous Land of oz. And Glinda in Wicked isn't horrible and defeatful in the book, she does tell Elphaba at her sisters funeral that the shoes had to get out of Munchkin Land or a civil war would start over them, she did what she had to do for the people of Oz and munchkin land not to be a bitch to Dorothy in Danger on Purpose. The only sad thing that has wanted this musical for me and their Alice in Wonderland is all the stuff about the company of teachers and directors who abused the boys and girls who are part of their season and even some of the adults in their shows. So its become hard to watch these now due to my own abuse as a kid and thinking how could they give great performances while under those conditions. But this stage adaptation of the second Oz book should be performed more regularly than it has been. The score is Great and fun and the book its as close to the book as possible. I was also a VHS kid with this film as well. lol
"Wicked" is unrelated rubbish. What's this "abuse" jazz?
Maybe I missed this, who's the girl with red hair who hugs Tip? I see the Wogglebug, Scarecrow, Tin Woodsman, Jack, but I have no idea who the girl in green is? Is it Dorothy?
Jellia Jamb i guess
Jelia Jamb. Fun fact: She was in the first book, as the girl who served Dorothy while she was in the Emerald City.
That's Jellia Jamb, who is given much more to do in this stage adaptation than she did in the book.
@@revengeofbcraig5755 She was in many of the books, and played a major role in the events of "Ozoplaning with the Wizard of Oz."
What the fuck
Oh, that’s not going to cause any psychological trauma…
It didn't.
@@MaskedMan66 I didn't mean to the actor...
@@matthewweng8483 Nor did I.
@@MaskedMan66 that's what I figured, I did read the book and thought it was cool how Ozma just rolled with it... My comment was more of a joke in that aside from the gender swap, she took this poor kid and wiped her mind clean and stuck her in the middle of the woods...
@@matthewweng8483 What woods?
There was an anime series in Japan which covered the first, second, third, and sixth books, and in that version, Ozma took a while to shake off the "scamp" personality she'd acquired as Tip. She still wore pantaloons, climbed trees, and slid down banisters. It was a combination of Dorothy teaching her to be ladylike and a secret chamber in the Palace with an inscription only Ozma could read that finally brought her back to herself.
jack:thinking what gender even is his dad is
jacks final conculsion:my dad is a trans male
(this is an joke;-;)
Nope. Ozma is a girl who was transformed into the likeness of a boy by a magic spell. Nothing more, nothing less.
gurl, this is just an joke@@MaskedMan66
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa429 I'm a man, and your "joke" isn't funny.
Jack has a trans-parent
@@Emlyn_w No, he has a mother.
The audience are laughing at how ludicrous it is. It would have been so much mor sensible to have a girl play Ozma. The plot is already hard to swallow (much more so now) but having that boy in a dress was such a wrong headed decision.
Eh, something tells me the boy playing Tip didn’t need much convincing getting into that dress.
You do know that the original book was written in 1904, right? Not to mention that transformations are frequently used in tales of fantasy. And by the way, if you can't handle the strange and bizarre, then you shouldn't be reading/watching fantasy in the first place.
@@crixxxxxxxxx How do you figure?
@@MaskedMan66 I've read the book many times over. In the book, Tip is transformed from a boy to their original form as a girl. This is a young boy in a dress, so the audience laugh. The theatrical choice of having the child drag up, rather than having a girl play the role undermines the transformation and makes it seem comedic. The issue I refer to is the choice in this particular adaptation, not the source material.
It's also not necessary to tell people how they should and should not live their lives because you feel you disagree with something they said (although you actually misunderstood) kindness and empathy go much further than being unpleasant. You can put forward an opinion without being unkind or rude, only those who can't converse resort to such tactics.
@@bigred8432 You mean *her* original form.
You claim to hear people laughing. Did it occur to you that it might be Mr. Passi's friends? And what's any weirder about a boy playing a girl (especially if he's a delicately-featured boy as Mr. Passi was) than a girl playing a boy? It's pantomime tradition either way. Also, don't forget that it wasn't until a little over 300 years ago that anyone had even heard the term "actress." Men and boys used to play all roles in stage productions. It ain't no big thang.
How did you perceive me as being "unkind or rude?"