We Figured Out MIGHTY HEALING & Its INSANE! Rise of Kingdoms

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024

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  • @OmniarchOfficial
    @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +11

    EDIT: After more consideration, there's almost guaranteed to be a cap on mighty healing because BABA for example has 105M+ units, which would scale insane with this garrison. Thanks to Speckoh for figuring out the Mighty Healing formula! Do YOU think it'll be broken? 🤔 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! :) 🚨 SUPPORT SPECKOH - www.patreon.com/speckoh/

    • @pound4pound380
      @pound4pound380 Месяц назад +1

      Can Ramses elimate the heal all together? If so all you have to do is add him and Saladin to your swarm package and that Garrison is destroyed correct?

    • @pound4pound380
      @pound4pound380 Месяц назад +1

      I wonder if you elimate the heal with Ramses does that elimate the damage too? If so this commander will be totally fucked and a waste of money

    • @ahmed_bomba
      @ahmed_bomba Месяц назад

      We all know that there is cap hoe many units can def city

    • @janihaavisto79
      @janihaavisto79 Месяц назад

      I hate this already. Because some of upcoming Mighty healing /shielding commanders will be must have commanders.

    • @r.alexander9075
      @r.alexander9075 29 дней назад

      Why wasnt this tested with a rally? For higher troop counts...

  • @woutgaming9685
    @woutgaming9685 Месяц назад +23

    Imagine baba using this as city garruson and it doesnt have a cap 💀 i think that will be like instant death to rally

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +5

      LMFAOOOOO omg I didn't think about that, that's gonna be broken

    • @TheMightymo05
      @TheMightymo05 Месяц назад

      Then don't rally his city. Simple.

    • @lukas4228
      @lukas4228 Месяц назад +2

      @@TheMightymo05 yea just swarm

  • @Lukeyyypookie
    @Lukeyyypookie Месяц назад +8

    Omniarch you are a w for taking the time to look into this! I appreciate it.

  • @viettoanle9831
    @viettoanle9831 14 дней назад +1

    Such a great work, appreciate the video much Omniarch!

  • @levan4226
    @levan4226 28 дней назад

    The important thing is that it heals lightly wounded soldiers to add more heavily wounded soldiers to the hospital like RC so healing is not appreciated

  • @sky3fall866
    @sky3fall866 Месяц назад +3

    Can someone explain how Richard’s heal to death works? Wouldn’t healing be good since it brings slightly wounded troops back into the fight so you don’t need to reinforce as much?

    • @xDread
      @xDread Месяц назад +1

      Healing is the exact same as reinforcing for garrison. You can cast a heal on the garrison any time you want by reinforcing, but Richard's heal replaces an active skill in the garrison. So rather than having an active skill to help you trade better, he just reloads more troops into the garrison for the enemy rally to hit.
      Imagine the enemy rallies with YSG vs your Richard garrison.
      Enemy YSG deals 10k deads to your garrison.
      Your Richard heals the garrison to almost full.
      Enemy team reinforces their YSG rally to full.
      Your team reinforces the Richard garrison to full.
      Your team has taken 10k more deads than the enemy team after 1 skill cycle.
      Repeat x100 skill cycles, and your team has taken 1M more deads than the enemy team.
      Once the enemy runs out of troops on the field to reinforce the rally, they can cancel the rally, reload and start again. Only difference is your team now has 1M fewer troops left to defend against all the rallies in the future.
      If you instead used YSG in the garrison, you would trade at least 1:1 with the rally, and the enemy team would have also taken 1M more deads.

    • @sky3fall866
      @sky3fall866 29 дней назад +1

      @@xDread I see! So basically since healing is the same as reinforcing, having a skill that only heals is the same as not having a skill. You'd rather just reinforce manually and have another skill instead. Thanks for the explanation!

  • @zkx2417
    @zkx2417 Месяц назад +2

    Bro i am always waiting for your uploads it’s something I look forward to everyday. No rok RUclipsr does it like u.

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      I really appreciate that, thank you!!

    • @Mujisu5102
      @Mujisu5102 Месяц назад

      True... the best guides and explanations for Rok ever

  • @callmebeanos1321
    @callmebeanos1321 Месяц назад +8

    Now that you invested all those stars into GM you may as well level his skills and get Cordoba to 5511 for an extra march. My mate got 21m kp with one GM Cordoba march this KvK

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah might have to! Will wait until I see the next ranged march release!

    • @Mr.sebas08
      @Mr.sebas08 29 дней назад

      @@callmebeanos1321 21m kp is not that much 😅

    • @HermesMartinez-o9n
      @HermesMartinez-o9n 29 дней назад

      @@callmebeanos1321 yo obtuve a gajah Mada 5511 + Gonzalo 5555 y empecé en 96M KP cuando abrió el primer altar de la oscuridad, ya terminó Kingsland y ahora mismo tengo +220M KP, soy un jugador casual F2P, uso tropas T4 y mi tecnología base es 6/10 y tecnología de cristal 1/10, la mayoría de mis kills son tropas T5 enemigas

    • @callmebeanos1321
      @callmebeanos1321 29 дней назад

      @@HermesMartinez-o9n He’s insane! My buddy and I did some testing and GM Cordoba with T1 siege can trade positive against T5

    • @callmebeanos1321
      @callmebeanos1321 29 дней назад +1

      @@Mr.sebas08bro he traded 146K to 1.126m sev wounds with 21m KP in a single march without returning to his city. I’ve never seen anyone do that without using siege. What march are you using to get those trades?

  • @terrybridges6561
    @terrybridges6561 Месяц назад +5

    Playing ceroli with you the other day was the highlight of ny afternoon..

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +2

      LETS GOOOO thank you! Glad we crossed paths then!

    • @terrybridges6561
      @terrybridges6561 Месяц назад

      @@OmniarchOfficial it was shocking actually to play the game with u.. I watch your videos so it wad almost like a celebrity moment haha

    • @terrybridges6561
      @terrybridges6561 Месяц назад

      My in game name is omega red..

  • @evil_apple_of_doom6409
    @evil_apple_of_doom6409 Месяц назад +2

    The assumtion with Richard is wrong. He is not bad bcs of his healing, he is bad bcs his dmg output is to low. Richard is not able to kill the enemy troops, just healing back the slightlys wounded troops. So you generate a automatic refilling Pinata.

    • @moaazahmad5058
      @moaazahmad5058 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah you are absolutely right

    • @ramos_pinho117
      @ramos_pinho117 Месяц назад +2

      Zeno was meta guarrison for a big time.
      Healing is not bad.
      But only healing is trash.
      Heal and deal damage than is strong guarrison

  • @Nicko0
    @Nicko0 Месяц назад +3

    I think the healing factor will be pretty low, because you both heal and deal damage at the same time when some commanders for example only do healing.

  • @_Didas_
    @_Didas_ Месяц назад +2

    What's your advice about formations ? We can pick 3 between all of them and it's hard to know what 'will be' used : wedge, circle, arch, etc ?

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      Arch for infantry, Wedge for everything else in the field. Only rally and garrisons will probably have to think about the others

    • @WildlifeFAQ
      @WildlifeFAQ Месяц назад +1

      @@OmniarchOfficial Might not be a bad idea to work on Circle if the other Archer commander is also mighty heal/true damage, we can always slap a Zhuge behind anything and hope for the best.

  • @jimibones178
    @jimibones178 Месяц назад

    I feel like this new garrison will be the go to garrison for any kd punching up at a kvk. Liliths attempt to balance power between new and old players. I mean, they did it in Ceroli so it shows it's on their mind

  • @anonyverse9349
    @anonyverse9349 29 дней назад

    After all this work, watch them tweak Mighty Healing for both Gaja and the new commander entirely 😂😂

  • @r.alexander9075
    @r.alexander9075 29 дней назад

    This is probably the only game where the developers don't explain much needed mechanics, especially considering how much of gameplay is dependant on correctly understanding it. It's insane they try to hide this, and make people have to fogure it out on their own. I know lots of people who have differing opinions on tons of stuff in the game, just because there is no unifying explanation given by the devs. F that!

  • @Rorsch34
    @Rorsch34 29 дней назад

    Another AOO Commander, just like Beli... but this time for Garrison.

  • @degreatautismo
    @degreatautismo 29 дней назад +1

    Bro, We CAN test the Max Cap on the healing. Use AOO Test match.

  • @zeldazelda197
    @zeldazelda197 Месяц назад +1

    There will definitely be a top cap, there has to be. If there is not then Gajah would be among the best garrisons in the game, which in theory could be tested with using him as a city garrison for a test or in a AOO practice match. Great work.

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      Unfortunately Gajah only heals with ranged attacks so he doesn't heal in garrisons otherwise I would have tested 🥲 but thanks! Yeah see the pinned comment, there has to be a cap!

    • @zeldazelda197
      @zeldazelda197 Месяц назад

      @@OmniarchOfficial You could in theory test by having him do a rally in AOO and have a bunch of range attacks (even with non-range commanders using V formation) hitting him, but I would never suggest that is practical for the theory crafting done in this video. It is a good topic to test with the actual garrison once that commander is released, but again - obviously there has to be a cap =).

  • @34-DTAJizargo74
    @34-DTAJizargo74 28 дней назад

    If mighty healing becomes a thing, will this make gilgamesh viable option? Hmm

  • @mattmattah7740
    @mattmattah7740 Месяц назад

    The issue of richard garrison is not the healing, its the lack of damage. All garrisons do heal through reinforcement.
    That new commander should be seen as a dps that scales off something new: healing bonuses. And on the side note, he/she requires less reinforcement.
    Do you think you could test if mighty healing is immune (or resistant to some degree) to healing cut ?

  • @shphu
    @shphu 29 дней назад

    Zenobia does about 1400 healing factor and 1800 damage. The new archer commander must be better than her for players to be interested.

  • @BA-Gaming
    @BA-Gaming Месяц назад

    Put Gaja in an expedition garrison test... you will see the heal numbers for the amount of troops... maybe able to work out any cap from that...

  • @KNNY61
    @KNNY61 Месяц назад

    Well then. I see two strayegies.
    1. Put that new commander with the highest garrison-compatible dps commander available or
    2. Put that new commander with the tankiest garrison-commander possible.
    Already I think swarming WOULD take a hit, because individual marches might melt rather quickly.
    There is one issue: garrisoning in the city of a whale. Will that mechanism be limited by the same limiter for normal heroes? Skill damage appears to not be limited by the troops that actually fight. Will this damage be thus limited? It will need testing, or there may be no more zeroing of certain cities. 🤔

  • @mandyfieldings6863
    @mandyfieldings6863 27 дней назад

    Thanks for the good content❤ my number 1 ytber

  • @gmoney845
    @gmoney845 Месяц назад +4

    I would have given a thumbs up even without the stars investment 😂

  • @realjohnlove
    @realjohnlove 29 дней назад

    Mighty Healing would be good for a gathering march.

  • @Kieselsteo
    @Kieselsteo Месяц назад +1

    20 sec ago is crazy. Gonna watch it later though. Wish me luck on my Barber visit :D

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      Hahaha thank you! I'm sure the cut will come out clean 😎

  • @Infsimp1226
    @Infsimp1226 Месяц назад +2

    Taking deads and sevs winning kvk > not taking deads and sevs and losing

  • @richiearagonjr2981
    @richiearagonjr2981 Месяц назад +1

    What's going on Omni, cheers 🍻

  • @Chucklgeist
    @Chucklgeist Месяц назад

    Question here: When you're in a garrison situation like holding a pass, doesn't the number of slightly wounded increase all the time, while also fresh marches try holding the garrison to its maximum? So if the dmg is based on the healing potential, even if it doent heal that much bc the garrison is full, shouldnt the dmg of the skill get higher and higher the longer the fight goes on?

  • @L4zyC47
    @L4zyC47 Месяц назад +2

    Instead of equal to the actual unit you can heal, it will based on the enemies' health number for true damage. Just replace your troop health in healing formula with enemies' health and put it as damage to enemies, then you should get true damage. It is stupid to think that since your health is lower cuz using t1, you deal more damage to enemies T5. We are all assuming that damage = how many troop enemy is losing, but infact, damage is not. How many troop enemy is losing = damage/enemy's health. So damage is only the top portion.
    So no, T1 wont do more true damage than T5. By what you come up with formula, we can heal like 500k on full t1, so you can actually burst any swarming army with just that AoE...which does not make any sense if "true damage = number of unit you heal".
    Her skill of decreasing enemies Health would support the calculation based on enemies' health instead.

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +1

      The skill specifically says that the amount of True Damage you deal will be a percentage of how much you heal. I think your analysis is great, but I also think Lilith needs to reword their skill 🤣🤣

    • @L4zyC47
      @L4zyC47 Месяц назад +1

      It says "capable of healing", so it varies between different types of unit. T1 could be 5x more than T5 in number of unit, but the exact limit on capacity of your "heal strength" are number of unit, and the healing factor. The health of the unit it is applied to is different story. It is like I can shoot an arrow that fly 100m/s, with a weight of 1kg. I can calculate the kinetic energy from it. That will be my damage. However, if I hit a wooden surface, a steel surface, a rabbit, a person, the damage show will be entirely different. The damage/heal strength in this game is like the total kinetic energy I put in the arrow. And the actual outcome on troops is like a surfaces i choose to shoot.

  • @greenknight4847
    @greenknight4847 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video, it’s helpful and thanks for effort, to both of you. And yea, your thoughts on new graphic less green than previously?

  • @CaptainLegionary
    @CaptainLegionary Месяц назад

    Can we get some Fs in the chat for those tomes and stars that Omniarch had to sacrifice by putting into Gajah?
    F

  • @Fowlaarr
    @Fowlaarr Месяц назад +1

    Can you do an interview with speckoh. Dunno if you’ve done it but he seems a math god. Curious if he’s math phd or something and just does this on the side and why he got into that side of rok. Does he play as well?

    • @otalgebra4436
      @otalgebra4436 Месяц назад

      Bro this is like 5th grade math lmao

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      I certainly can! And he does play!

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад +2

      Deriving formulas from raw data is definitely not 5th grade math lmao

    • @Fowlaarr
      @Fowlaarr Месяц назад

      @@otalgebra4436haha the original battle formula seemed pretty tech. If it’s right

    • @Fowlaarr
      @Fowlaarr Месяц назад

      @@OmniarchOfficialyeah reverse calculating it seems high level for me. Out of my league

  • @DonkeyKong7493
    @DonkeyKong7493 Месяц назад +2

    W video and i havnt even watched it yet

  • @cmlcml415
    @cmlcml415 Месяц назад +1

    *Happy Archer Simp Noises* (from me as well 😂)

  • @12bigredd
    @12bigredd Месяц назад +1

    so what your saying is we need 45% more archers then :):)

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      Yeah I'm really hyped to see how well this performs lol

  • @korisnickoime571
    @korisnickoime571 Месяц назад +1

    Hopefully they buff zeno over this

    • @DaddyDavid294
      @DaddyDavid294 Месяц назад

      i hear chisgule will max the new archer garrison for the troops changer

    • @korisnickoime571
      @korisnickoime571 Месяц назад

      @@DaddyDavid294 what would you say is the best city garrison for cavs ?

    • @DaddyDavid294
      @DaddyDavid294 Месяц назад

      @@korisnickoime571 when i watch Ploto intreview wardaddychad acc, chad said said, cav need defense

  • @Mujisu5102
    @Mujisu5102 Месяц назад

    Interesting....guess my Scipio Aenilianus gonna have a hard time lol

  • @JoaquinIFS
    @JoaquinIFS Месяц назад

    I’m fairly new to the game so I don’t undress something, how to special troop focused garrison commanders work? Don’t you defend a rally with all types of troops inside your city?

  • @ahmadeis2059
    @ahmadeis2059 Месяц назад +1

    Dose that make Ragnar meta rally?

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      LOL imagine?

    • @ahmadeis2059
      @ahmadeis2059 Месяц назад

      Why not his relic reduce smite damage and now second skill is available 55 states pretty mid 10% bigger rally.
      Yes doesn't have skill damage But increase all damage.

  • @rezopolis
    @rezopolis Месяц назад

    I'm upset with Lilith's support 😡
    I'm upset with Lilith's support 😡
    I'm upset with Lilith's support 😡
    edit: btw Omni the GOAT helped me to figure out which 3rd auxiliary skill for my Gaja Mada will be, in Orlean... +15% unit capacity 😎

  • @WildlifeFAQ
    @WildlifeFAQ Месяц назад +1

    This is scaling out of control, either the healing factor is going to be low like really low but the damage is 2x of that or the healing factor is high but the damage is 25% of that.

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      I anticipate a cap on the ratio between regular healing and mighty healing, or something similar.

  • @lxvking
    @lxvking Месяц назад +1

    Greetings from 2335 great vid omni

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      Greetings! THank you!

    • @lxvking
      @lxvking Месяц назад

      @@OmniarchOfficialno problem! Hope all is going well

  • @tardis24K
    @tardis24K Месяц назад

    Mighty healing aside, it's the true damage that is worth considering. This is what most of healing commanders missing to be good.

  • @raoulblackburn5237
    @raoulblackburn5237 Месяц назад

    Excluding the healing and defence artifacts also

  • @RoyalRaji-s3c
    @RoyalRaji-s3c Месяц назад

    Hear me out… Saladin Nevsky rally against this garrison

  • @danbernardes1726
    @danbernardes1726 29 дней назад

    Discipline priests from wow now in rok

  • @alioltify
    @alioltify Месяц назад

    just make AOO practice match with Gaja as garrison, and you will see if it has healing cap.

  • @kukkaisjumala
    @kukkaisjumala 29 дней назад

    I HATE Maintenances. yes yes they are must have but still it always hits very bad time :P won my first soc and every kvk i have 353 consecutive days an thats the day i installed it 352 days ago. academy shows 9/10 on most stuff i just need books for castle 😢 but we won soc aand cease fire is on for rest 15 days so just farm stuff and getting ready. woopwoop

  • @ahmed_bomba
    @ahmed_bomba Месяц назад

    Why u think heal make u take more sev like he will deal dmg and heal so he keep garni high troops and crack swarmers

  • @IzabelMorrisBella
    @IzabelMorrisBella Месяц назад

    Will it have the same effect/ disadvantage as Richard 1?

  • @kritischemasse3131
    @kritischemasse3131 Месяц назад

    comeback of richard with archer artifact? 😅

    • @moaazahmad5058
      @moaazahmad5058 Месяц назад

      No I don't think so .. his damage is too low

  • @Crazyplaysss
    @Crazyplaysss Месяц назад

    Huo tambien cura

  • @perathion
    @perathion Месяц назад

    this whole thing is stupid, imagine you cant fill up fort or flags just because you need it to have space to heal, you literally need to stay at 80% of max capacity which will have negative effect, also imagine not having a single good pair for it among archers, they could easily bring a cutie to pair with artemisia with a disram skill and silence imunity,every one would have been happy :D

  • @endofexistence2149
    @endofexistence2149 Месяц назад

    like for the sacrifice

  • @ryannelson2565
    @ryannelson2565 Месяц назад

    You forgot to read the first blip on the first skill after doing the calculation it’s says that it is doing damage based on the amount it can heal not the amount is has healed so I’m not sure if that 98,000 would be the damage in the case

    • @OmniarchOfficial
      @OmniarchOfficial  Месяц назад

      It's stating that it will essentially always be the max heal equivalent

    • @moaazahmad5058
      @moaazahmad5058 Месяц назад

      ​@OmniarchOfficial there are many factors for this .. like for example .. if you are fighting t1 .. is the number gonna be 98000 ? .. so there must be another factors

  • @Buzzwole3478
    @Buzzwole3478 Месяц назад +1

    Finally a new archer garrison

  • @DaddyDavid294
    @DaddyDavid294 Месяц назад

    EW archer, I hate archer lmao

  • @lestatdelincourt426
    @lestatdelincourt426 28 дней назад

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @sharbandarrimau8448
    @sharbandarrimau8448 Месяц назад

    😂 Wow ❤❤❤

  • @akademi1215
    @akademi1215 29 дней назад

    Somewhat much talk and little showable.

  • @Helen_Harrison7875
    @Helen_Harrison7875 Месяц назад +1

    Interesting
    🥰🥰

  • @AzzamAbuJbara
    @AzzamAbuJbara 29 дней назад

    If they give combo damage for cav next time aint that making skill damage useless in future form city skin to wedge formation!!!
    What they trying to do by making something 90% of players invested in useless 🫢

    • @realjohnlove
      @realjohnlove 29 дней назад

      They need to make Combo Mixed Troop exclusive. I don’t see why single troop types would do Combo attacks. I would think Combining different troop types = combo attack.
      But Liu already has combo damage so its not gonna be Cav specific. The next Archer wheel commander might have combo damage