The 5075e is the base model. The 5075m would be a more appropriate comparison in my opinion. The massey 4707-4710 are all the exact same tractor just with different engine power.
The 4707 has no emissions and a different turbo so there are differences. The M is definitely a more appropriate comparison for feature but we’ll smoke it in price.
I ran the build and price tool on both tractors this morning. The John Deere 5075E with standard cab, 1 remote, 4x4, power shuttle and 520M non self leveling loader came out to $70,700 To add Premium Cab(closer to Massey’s deluxe cab) and a second remote to the 5075E it’s another $6,000 The Massey 4707 with deluxe cab, FL3522 mid spec loader with soft ride, 2 remotes air ride seat etc is $71,870 And after all that the Massey is still 2500lbs of more tractor. Seems like a pretty fair comparison dollar wise which was exactly my intention!
@@prequipmentsales now, one more thing? All the massey dealers where i live keep going out of business or quit selling massey’s saying that agco makes demands on them that are impossible to accomplish. How long have you guys been a massey dealer? Just curious. I once owned 5 massey’s and 3 dealerships went out of business within 6 years of each other. I now own a kubota and a john deere.
@@dannyboy6332 so we’ve been with Massey for 3 1/2 years. However prior to opening my dealership I worked for Agco(Massey) corporate so I’ve seen things from both sides and probably visited half the dealers in the country. Therefore, I knew what I was getting into and I still chose Massey. No it’s not as easy as being a Mahindra dealer or Kioti dealer but if you build your dealership on a solid foundation of parts and service, I think you could be very successful with it.
The "Massey" is a "little Big tractor"& the "Deere" is a "Big little tractor". The 75e is an "entry-level" 75hp tractor. The Massey-Ferguson 4707 is a small horsepower "Professional Tractor. The price point probably determine's what tractor they will chose& verses ligjt-duty to heavey-duty. Would like to know the prices on both-even "if" it's just by percentages. The Massey-Ferguson IS REALY 40% more "tractor" than the John Deere in this "series" comparison. Thank you Sir for the great Vidio comparison.
I bought an MF1835M last year and am in absolute love with it. I have been a Massey guy my entire life. We have 11 of them. I have been seriously looking at the 4707 to help modernize our fleet. I test drove one the other day at our local dealership. It was already sold before delivery. It was very nice to get to touch one and drive it if even for a few minutes. I test drove a JD 5075E a few days later just to compare and was underwhelmed by it. I have never understood the love of JD. They are expensive and don't deliver more in the class that I shop in. They might be in others but I have not seen it. I do have one JD and it is the same age and HP as some of my MF so I felt at the time it was a good comparison.
I’ve been a Ford guy for life. I love my old blues, but I needed a 100 hp tractor on this frame size. I went on a DEEP dive back in spring. Fast forward and I found a 2020 MF 4710 with 239 hours on it for $57,000 at a Deere dealer. I haven’t truly run it yet (cleaned up around the barn with a little 6’ rotary) but I really like it so far.
Pound for pound, inch for inch, cost for cost Massey is the Winner. I love my 2607H plus i don't have worry about the dealer saying they won't give software info to the customer like john deer does.
I’m interested in a Massey 4700 series but prefer to not have def. But need closer to 100hp in the next few years. Could I buy the 4707 and after the warranty tune it to match the 4710? I just want the most tractor for the money but also don’t wanna trade up in 5 years
Glad we could help! We have lots more info on our RUclips channel. Also don’t hesitate to reach out to one of our sales professionals with any questions. 903-270-0877
Found your videos searching for a MF 4707. Great videos and good info. The steel and iron size doesn't lie, no question in my mind the Massey is the right choice. Wish you were closer, would buy from you for sure.
Thanks for watching! bummer you’re not closer we’d love to be your dealer.I’m not sure where you’re located but I know some dealers all over the country that we know will take care of you if you need a recommendation.
Massey should really be compared to the Deere 5075M, not the E. The Deere holds its own there, especially when it comes to overall weight. The E is just too light. The problem with a similarly spec'd M is the extra $20,000 they want for green paint. When you add aTDI tuner to the 4707 youget bout 93 egin HP and 75ish at the PTO, for only another $600
Completely agreed that the M is a better comparison spec for spec.. We chose the E because it’s closer in price. The point we were trying to make was how much more you get for a similar price tractor.
I am a Massey guy. I have a 4607 now but I grew up driving an 1150, and 1155, and the monster in its day, the 2805. But this comparison really isn't fair. The E is the Economy series of the JD. Why didn't you compare it to the R series?
We don't offer a cab version of the 2600 which is what were trying to showcase here. In the future I'll try to round up an open station Deere and compare. Thanks for watching.
Everyone already knows about the Deere and Kubota tax. Masseys compare much more with New Hollands as far as bang for buck. Both very good brands that really mostly care about the meat and potatoes sizes of tractors (60+ hp). CNH and AGCO tractor frames all seem to be a little larger hp for hp compared to other brands. They are both global conglomerates though, so you never know which country made which model. It could be France, Italy, Britain, Turkey, China, Korea, Canada, or here in the US. They also are massive equipment manufacturers too. Case is to New Holland as Fendt is to Massey, or in a fashion, how GMC is to Chevy. They are about 90% the same. There are more notable differences in the Monster class 9 units though, especially the tracked ones.
I like the Massey but you can’t find one in Oklahoma and I can find 20 John Deere dealers in Oklahoma. I would have liked to compare them both in person.
@@billwright6800 bummer. We’re a couple hours away but we do have inventory and we’re in Oklahoma fairly often. Sending 3 balers to Shawnee next month. Let us know if we can help.
Wouldn’t a Massey 4707 be a better match up for a Deere 5075”M” not “E”. The Deere “E” series is purpose built lighter and not as feature rich…. The price for these two tractors would reflect that. Compare the “M” and see where they stand….
Your comparing apples to oranges the John Deere e series is there lighter duty entry level tractor. Not that it’s a bad tractor they are excellent tractors but they are on the lighter side. The 4707 is not that for Massey it should be compared to a 5075m or actually a 5085m
If you look at previous comments I’ve answer that question many times. The intent of this video was to compare the Deere that was closest in price to the Massey. I agree the M stacks up better but then the Deere would be at a much higher price point so that wouldn’t be fair either. Thanks for watching.
Price point are not correct. You'd have to at least get a 5075e with the premium which would still be cheaper than the MF. a 5075M is more of a correct comparison. What this proves is that the Deere is a better option for someone trying not to spend as much.
We price against the Deere's all day long. Bring your Deere premium quote and yeah I'll bet I can beat it and give you a lot more tractor. Thanks for watching.
A tape measure does not tell me what i need to know to compare two tractors. If you were trying to convince me to buy a Massey then you did a good job, but the comparisons made were of no value to a farmer.
Search RUclips. I see a LOT of negative vids on the 4707. I want to like it since I’m in the market and looking for a utility tractor and have been researching it a lot. The last straw: 4707 is China made!
You do realize most of John Deere are manufactured overseas? Hell, up until a couple years back their excavators were all made by hitachi in Japan. John Deere don’t even make the engines for their compact tractors, they’re all Yanmar. The price to buy Deere ain’t worth it. It was between Massey and Kubota, I went Kubota as the dealer is by my house about 3 miles away, Massey is 150, but I’d own a Massey in a heartbeat.
If you look back through previous comments I’ve answered this questions a few times. Yes based on specs the M is more comparable, however, they’re way more money. I was trying to compare the closest model in terms of price.
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The 5075e is the base model. The 5075m would be a more appropriate comparison in my opinion. The massey 4707-4710 are all the exact same tractor just with different engine power.
The 4707 has no emissions and a different turbo so there are differences. The M is definitely a more appropriate comparison for feature but we’ll smoke it in price.
@@prequipmentsales can't wait to get mine. Still a ways out but so excited getting the upgraded 1535 loader I believe it is.
Thoughts on a Case 75A
Exactly !! Do this video over with a 5075M john deere . Then put MSRP with dates on both tractors .
@@ryantucker5903 run!! Got three friends and a bunch of videos on that model case and it has a lot of issues with bad dealer support.
Don’t you love how they always compare their premium tractor to an economy built john deere?! lol. It never fails.
Exactly!!
"Let's talk about THIS raw measurement of the three point." Yet not talk about differences in steel density.
I ran the build and price tool on both tractors this morning. The John Deere 5075E with standard cab, 1 remote, 4x4, power shuttle and 520M non self leveling loader came out to $70,700
To add Premium Cab(closer to Massey’s deluxe cab) and a second remote to the 5075E it’s another $6,000
The Massey 4707 with deluxe cab, FL3522 mid spec loader with soft ride, 2 remotes air ride seat etc is $71,870
And after all that the Massey is still 2500lbs of more tractor.
Seems like a pretty fair comparison dollar wise which was exactly my intention!
@@prequipmentsales now, one more thing? All the massey dealers where i live keep going out of business or quit selling massey’s saying that agco makes demands on them that are impossible to accomplish. How long have you guys been a massey dealer? Just curious. I once owned 5 massey’s and 3 dealerships went out of business within 6 years of each other. I now own a kubota and a john deere.
@@dannyboy6332 so we’ve been with Massey for 3 1/2 years. However prior to opening my dealership I worked for Agco(Massey) corporate so I’ve seen things from both sides and probably visited half the dealers in the country. Therefore, I knew what I was getting into and I still chose Massey. No it’s not as easy as being a Mahindra dealer or Kioti dealer but if you build your dealership on a solid foundation of parts and service, I think you could be very successful with it.
The "Massey" is a "little Big tractor"& the "Deere" is a "Big little tractor". The 75e is an "entry-level" 75hp tractor. The Massey-Ferguson 4707 is a small horsepower "Professional Tractor. The price point probably determine's what tractor they will chose& verses ligjt-duty to heavey-duty. Would like to know the prices on both-even "if" it's just by percentages. The Massey-Ferguson IS REALY 40% more "tractor" than the John Deere in this "series" comparison. Thank you Sir for the great Vidio comparison.
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos just subscribed! Love how fair you try to make your comparisons a lot better than everyone else.
Thanks for watching!
I bought an MF1835M last year and am in absolute love with it. I have been a Massey guy my entire life. We have 11 of them. I have been seriously looking at the 4707 to help modernize our fleet. I test drove one the other day at our local dealership. It was already sold before delivery. It was very nice to get to touch one and drive it if even for a few minutes. I test drove a JD 5075E a few days later just to compare and was underwhelmed by it. I have never understood the love of JD. They are expensive and don't deliver more in the class that I shop in. They might be in others but I have not seen it. I do have one JD and it is the same age and HP as some of my MF so I felt at the time it was a good comparison.
Glad you're liking the M and thanks for watching!
I’ve been a Ford guy for life. I love my old blues, but I needed a 100 hp tractor on this frame size. I went on a DEEP dive back in spring. Fast forward and I found a 2020 MF 4710 with 239 hours on it for $57,000 at a Deere dealer. I haven’t truly run it yet (cleaned up around the barn with a little 6’ rotary) but I really like it so far.
Pound for pound, inch for inch, cost for cost Massey is the Winner. I love my 2607H plus i don't have worry about the dealer saying they won't give software info to the customer like john deer does.
Glad to hear you’re happy with your Massey!
How much cost a 4707 with loader like this?
what about the single point loader hydraulic release
Could you have found any smaller tires for e model JD
They had these same tires on every 5075E on the Deere lot. I checked
I’m interested in a Massey 4700 series but prefer to not have def. But need closer to 100hp in the next few years. Could I buy the 4707 and after the warranty tune it to match the 4710? I just want the most tractor for the money but also don’t wanna trade up in 5 years
As a dealer we can’t recommend any modifications to the tractor beyond manufacturer specs. That being said……..you wouldn’t be the first.
what is the volume of the hydraulic tank?
Power reverse tractor can use agriculture propose or only commercial use
Either.
@@prequipmentsales can I use in agriculture like plough
Great video. Really need this kind of information as I’m in the market for a new tractor.
Glad we could help! We have lots more info on our RUclips channel. Also don’t hesitate to reach out to one of our sales professionals with any questions.
903-270-0877
Could you get me a quote on a 4707 & 4708?
Could you shoot us a text @903-270-0877 and we'll get you over those quotes.
The Massey sure looks stouter than the Deere and love more ground clearance is better for us!
As always thanks for watching!
thanks for sharing the video I really like both tractors but the Massey looks to be the best buy
If you haven’t seen our other videos comparing these two you should check them out.
Found your videos searching for a MF 4707. Great videos and good info. The steel and iron size doesn't lie, no question in my mind the Massey is the right choice. Wish you were closer, would buy from you for sure.
Thanks for watching! bummer you’re not closer we’d love to be your dealer.I’m not sure where you’re located but I know some dealers all over the country that we know will take care of you if you need a recommendation.
Massey should really be compared to the Deere 5075M, not the E. The Deere holds its own there, especially when it comes to overall weight. The E is just too light. The problem with a similarly spec'd M is the extra $20,000 they want for green paint. When you add aTDI tuner to the 4707 youget bout 93 egin HP and 75ish at the PTO, for only another $600
Completely agreed that the M is a better comparison spec for spec.. We chose the E because it’s closer in price. The point we were trying to make was how much more you get for a similar price tractor.
@@prequipmentsales That's a fair reply and it makes sense.
I am a Massey guy. I have a 4607 now but I grew up driving an 1150, and 1155, and the monster in its day, the 2805. But this comparison really isn't fair. The E is the Economy series of the JD. Why didn't you compare it to the R series?
So I’ve answered this question many times. I was trying to compare the closest in price not the closest in features.
My apologies. I must not have heard that.
@@prequipmentsales
A Massey 2607H would be a better comparison to the Deere 5075e
We don't offer a cab version of the 2600 which is what were trying to showcase here. In the future I'll try to round up an open station Deere and compare. Thanks for watching.
Everyone already knows about the Deere and Kubota tax. Masseys compare much more with New Hollands as far as bang for buck. Both very good brands that really mostly care about the meat and potatoes sizes of tractors (60+ hp). CNH and AGCO tractor frames all seem to be a little larger hp for hp compared to other brands. They are both global conglomerates though, so you never know which country made which model. It could be France, Italy, Britain, Turkey, China, Korea, Canada, or here in the US. They also are massive equipment manufacturers too. Case is to New Holland as Fendt is to Massey, or in a fashion, how GMC is to Chevy. They are about 90% the same. There are more notable differences in the Monster class 9 units though, especially the tracked ones.
I demoed a new Massey 4710 open station a few days back and I thought it wasn’t a bad tractor for the price
Hard to beat feature to feature, spec to spec and price to price.
I like the Massey but you can’t find one in Oklahoma and I can find 20 John Deere dealers in Oklahoma. I would have liked to compare them both in person.
Definitely check out all three videos comparing the two. Where in Oklahoma you out of?
@@prequipmentsales Mcloud. East of Oklahoma City about 30 miles. I haven’t been able to even find a dealer with a Massey In stock.
@@billwright6800 bummer. We’re a couple hours away but we do have inventory and we’re in Oklahoma fairly often. Sending 3 balers to Shawnee next month. Let us know if we can help.
@@prequipmentsales what model does Massey offer in a 55-65 horse cab tractor?
Wouldn’t a Massey 4707 be a better match up for a Deere 5075”M” not “E”. The Deere “E” series is purpose built lighter and not as feature rich…. The price for these two tractors would reflect that. Compare the “M” and see where they stand….
The price for the M is significantly higher than the Massey.
How about the resell value? I know the Deere will hold its value
Dang good. I’ve traded for several and there’s plenty of demand.
Your comparing apples to oranges the John Deere e series is there lighter duty entry level tractor. Not that it’s a bad tractor they are excellent tractors but they are on the lighter side. The 4707 is not that for Massey it should be compared to a 5075m or actually a 5085m
If you look at previous comments I’ve answer that question many times. The intent of this video was to compare the Deere that was closest in price to the Massey. I agree the M stacks up better but then the Deere would be at a much higher price point so that wouldn’t be fair either. Thanks for watching.
My takeaway was that the Massey is a bigger underpowered tractor. Like comparing a F-350 vs F-150 but with the same horsepower engine
Pay $400 to have it tuned and you'll get 90hp out of it problem solved
Price point are not correct. You'd have to at least get a 5075e with the premium which would still be cheaper than the MF. a 5075M is more of a correct comparison. What this proves is that the Deere is a better option for someone trying not to spend as much.
We price against the Deere's all day long. Bring your Deere premium quote and yeah I'll bet I can beat it and give you a lot more tractor. Thanks for watching.
A tape measure does not tell me what i need to know to compare two tractors.
If you were trying to convince me to buy a Massey then you did a good job, but the comparisons made were of no value to a farmer.
Search RUclips. I see a LOT of negative vids on the 4707. I want to like it since I’m in the market and looking for a utility tractor and have been researching it a lot. The last straw: 4707 is China made!
There currently made in South America. Haven’t seen a Chinese one in a few years
You do realize most of John Deere are manufactured overseas? Hell, up until a couple years back their excavators were all made by hitachi in Japan. John Deere don’t even make the engines for their compact tractors, they’re all Yanmar. The price to buy Deere ain’t worth it. It was between Massey and Kubota, I went Kubota as the dealer is by my house about 3 miles away, Massey is 150, but I’d own a Massey in a heartbeat.
Not a true comparison use a 6105 E to compare
You're probably right it'll take a 105hp Deere to compare to the 75hp Massey!!!
Should be compared to the 5075m not the 5075e
If you look back through previous comments I’ve answered this questions a few times. Yes based on specs the M is more comparable, however, they’re way more money. I was trying to compare the closest model in terms of price.
@@prequipmentsales that makes sense didn't think of pricing
Un po di parte x Massey Ferguson vedo
MASSEY: ONE
DERRE: ZERO
Thanks for watching!
John deer is cheap made
Thanks for watching!
jd hater
Facts don’t lie. Honestly though JD makes some good lines of equipment. The E series isn’t one of them.