‘Oppenheimer’ is Harrowing | Movie Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Dave, Devindra and Jeff discuss the newest film from director Christopher Nolan with guest Patrick H. Willems.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
1:24 - Viewing Format
11:38 - Patrick’s Thoughts
14:17 - Devindra’s Thoughts
18:22 - Jeff’s Thoughts
26:39 - Dave’s Thoughts
45:23 - Spoiler Discussion
1:37:07 - Outro
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Patrick needs to be a guest on more episodes!
having listened to this show for years, it's become pretty easy to guess where they're going to land on a film. poor jeff just needs "OPPENHEIMER BAD" on the screen for 3 hours or else he's going to walk away thinking the movie redeems him. i just don't understand how anyone can come away thinking this movie mythologizes or redeems him or what he did in any way. especially the ending. i honestly feel kinda bad for patrick because he's just operating at a way higher level with film analysis than any of the 3 other guys are.
I went with two people to see this. There wasn't one moment (except the bomb going off) where any of us could whisper or even lightly ask the other for the popcorn because there was such loud music playing the whole film.
I'm with Patrick. The movie takes on a completely different feel/experience when you watch it a second time. I'm convinced that Jeff, Devindra, and Dave would have a slightly different (more positive) perspective upon repeat viewings.
You just can't make something and expect a second viewing to make it enjoyable. I had an unpleasant experience with Oppenheimer, and have no intention of ever watching it again. I'm utterly bored with Nolan's timeline shenanigans he insists of twisting every one of his films through. It was amazing with Memento. It was incredible with The Prestige (a film in my Top Ten of all time), and it was stunning with Inception. But now, every one of his films seems insistent on confusing the audience with what is happening when, like it's a feature not a bug. And I'm totally over the WALL-TO-WALL blaring, droning music that we have in every Nolan film now. PLUS, no one speaks like a human anymore in Nolan films. Every line of dialogue is a ponderous, portentous pronouncement. Tenet was even worse in all aspects of this, but Oppenheimer leans all the way into every one of Nolan's recent tropes.
@@VictorDiGiovannithose are all troll accounts that praise the movie no matter what and bully anyone that doesn't. It's all part of a shady marketing scheme called PAYOLA. Pathetic they have to do that to sell this trash movie😂
Gotta say I’m pretty shocked that all three of David, Devindra, and Jeff were down on this more than expected. Based on what was said during the review it sounds like they way oversimplified this movie (especially the comp to walk hard biopic formulaic approach) and didn’t really appreciate the overall message or reason for existing. So glad Patrick was on though to talk some sense!
Better Call Saul used the black & white technique for the future scenes and color for the present/past
The moment splitting of the atom was discovered, the cat was out of the bag. It was just a question of time of who got the bomb first.
Yea it’s like the reviewers thought that if they stoped right there it would never of been invented?!?
Devindra’s opinion about this movie when it comes to the women shows that he clearly has no clue what the movie was about. The movie was about the life of J. ROBERT OPPENHEIMER and how the development of the atomic bomb affected his life. This movie isn’t about the women in his life, it is about Oppenheimer and his work on physics and the atomic bomb
Can you imagine how much weaker the movie would have been if they focused on the women more? Jesus
Devindra won’t be happy unless everything is dominated by DEI
@@DeltaAssaultGaming eh I’ve been following these guys for years. He complains about lack of women way more than race. And yes, it’s insufferable. Barbie will be a headache to listen to (and I liked Barbie lol)
He's a parody of himself at this point. You could replace him with an algorithm and wouldn't know the difference.
@@gordoncutter9241 hey it’s you from the Mission Impossible review episode. I told you the Oppenheimer review will be as annoying if not more so lol
This movie never felt like a typical biopic at all. I disagree with that criticism.
I can only recommend reading "American Prometheus". Then there are pretty much no questions about the why? and how? when it comes to Nolan's artistic choices. Besides Oppenheimer was already mythologised as a figure long before Nolan's film. I think Nolan did great job in providing a glimpse into Oppenheimer's psyche, which is a very complicated thing to do. The film is very fast-paced and at times overwhelming, but in no way it is your straightforward, ordinary biopic.
A movie should be able to stand on its own.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming It's able to stand on its own but at the same time reading the book really helps to enhance the experience of viewing. It's always like this when it comes to adapting books to movie screens. This is a massive biography of Oppenheimer which has been researched and written by its authors for 25 years. Of course it's not an easy task to make it work in a 3Hr movie. I think Nolan did everything he could to do it: highlighting pivotal moments of Oppenheimer's life and creating a fascinating complex character on screen. For me the movie was fantastic but of course I am telling from a perspective who knows the whole story very well.
Normally I really enjoy these guys' reviews but this was just cringe-worthy to listen to. It's like they left all their critical thinking skills at the door and went in with a quota of things to take offense to. The only one with any sense here is Patrick, who is clearly the only one mature enough to understand and not be rustled by the complicated ethics and gray areas this movie is operating on
Great episode guys! I could be wrong but I spotted two Asian faces at the feet stomping rally where Oppie has visions of the bomb's effects.
These takes that the movie attempts to redeem Oppenheimer as a figure are just the most media illiterate shit I've seen, as is that what the movie is doing are biopic tropes. Please show me a biopic that makes the viewer think about half of the things this movie does, politically, scientifically, morally, and philosophically.
Couple of points - saw the movie in 15 perf 70mm at the IMAX at the Science Museum in London (the projector managed 2.5hrs before stopping). FYI amazing image until that moment. Reminds me the you can hear the projector roaring in the back in the quiet scenes - but the image was spectacular. Just to point out although most sound is on the film - so no film moving no sound, IMAX 15perf the sound is separate and stored on a server (and synced in some clever way). I was very disappointed that they didn't have a backup DCP to play and had to see the last 30 minutes of the film in a separate screening a day later - normal DCP - could certainly see and feel the difference and certainly there is no doubt that the IMAX 15 perf (if they can project it) is a different experience. Keep up the great work.
I remember watching Interstellar on film and the entire end sequence when Copper is in the Black Hole was silent! I thought it was the greatest and boldest move anyone ever made only to find out the sound died! 🤣 I still believe without sound, the last sequence is way more powerful.
Story idea. So there would be two men each are attached to some machine in between them. It one of them dies they both do. I haven't though of what the machine is, but the townspeople will come and see them on this hill each day. And over time these two men just really hate each other and spend a lot of their time being vindictive. In the end they die at the same time , preventing the machine from going off. The story would basically end that if the two men didn't actually need to die. They just need to stop hating each other and actually work together to disassemble the machine. It woudl be a metaohor for mutually assured destruction.
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Thanks, Patrick. I am completely on your wavelength when it comes to the movie "Oppenheimer".
All of Nolan's movies have humor in them. Memento, Prestige, Interstellar... all the Batman movies...
Emotionless is a terrible criticism that he gets. It doesn't make sense.
All the complaints are basically, "This movie about Oppenheimer should have been about anything other than Oppenheimer!" Smh. Silly and ignorant.
You joke about Malek being cast because of his eyes... but when using IMAX cameras in a film about people talking, casting interesting looking people is hugely important.
Two incredible limericks from Jeff. And Dave's absolute (but muted) cackle at 18:54 is phenomenal.
Agreed. It’s such a shame we can’t hear it in all its glory, but I’m so glad we get to hear it at all. Thank goodness the mute didn’t fully work. 🙏🏽
Regarding the question of whether this movie is worth seeing in IMAX - I would say "Nolan Doesn't use IMAX to capture the explosion, he uses it to capture Cillian Murphy's face" and if that sounds pretentious to you you can save your money.
It's does. And I did
The black-and-white sequences represent Lewis Strauss' point of view, while the color sequences represent J. Robert Oppenheimer's perspective. The movie is a masterpiece. Murphy's performance is the best I ever witnessed, ever. Cillian is killing it!
Hyperbole much? You sound like a 3 year old who just went to the zoo. "This is the best day ever", then the next week he goes to the water park "this is the best day ever" then his uncle buys him a pony "this is the best day ever"
Jeff's Oppenheimer puns had me HOWLING throughout the whole episode
Would you consider the Oppie bomb drop better or worse than the bomb drop at the opening of The Wolverine?
JEFF'S BEST LIMERICK SO FAR.
Excellent movie. Glad I saw it on the big screen.
Jeff’s delivery of that hilarious limerick, as well as Dave’s reaction to it, is possibly the greatest moment in this podcast’s history.
Maybe besides the money horse/cash cow incident. (Those that know, will agree). 😂
Great movie. Total cinema baby 🎉
Did any of you read American Prometheus?
I think this is one of those reviews where everyone on the filmcast had something they wanted to see the movie discuss vs reviewing what the movie was. It feels like everyone also had a bad time getting or sub standard way to watch it, not sure if that affected the review. But regardless of their thoughts, it was unanimous that this is a must watch Movie which I agree. Also to all the people getting offended by the review get over it.
Are Ya'll covering Barbie next week? I'm surprised you didn't cover both
I hope so let's see what they say about it hating on men
Could it be that the 2nd sex scene was an homage to the MacGruber cemetery scene? 🤔
Haven’t listened yet, but I’m gonna guess: Devindra is down on this film and finds little ways to nitpick it because of the lack of diversity representation and because the female characters don’t have a big enough part.
Bingo.
He's always pretty predictable
He’s the worst
The guy just prefers stories with more women than a good story. 80% of his “what we’ve been watching” is female driven. I’m all for equality but sometimes he comes across as “anti-man” for real. Like criticizing that MEN are talking in meetings? No shit. That is what happened.
"ChatGPT, do a Devindra review"
i kind of hatewatch these guys at this point. they've really fallen off
This was brutal and has made me given up on the filmcast. Was expecting the comments from Devindra but not Jeff and wasn’t sure about Dave. Overall awful reviews/critiques from even except Patrick.
Unfortunately for Jeff, Oppenheimer isn't a Marvel superhero
These guys lean left and they sure want us to know it
And their channel has 7k subscribers. Tells you everything doesn’t it?
I loved the lack of diversity equity and inclusion in this movie. Felt really refreshing.
Top three nolan tho i don't like nolan very much (inception sucks, after all).
thank you for explaining clearly nice and early here as part of your film review that weapons of mass destruction are, in fact, Bad. like, it's 2023 & we've got that boys...
and the final hour is incredible. maybe see it in better conditions and re visit? perhaps your collective flawed viewings have led the three of you to being particularly sanctimonious here - which in turn just comes off as thick.
After seeing it, I feel like I have the same reaction as a lot of people, which is that there’s a great chunk of movie in the middle there, but it’s surrounded by a lot of boring stuff. I really wish the movie had just focused on the building the bomb part at Los Alamos. I don’t care about his crazy commie lover. And all the stuff after the bomb goes off with RDJ. It’s just not interesting.
Also got confused with how many characters they introduced. That’s why most movies will amalgamate multiple real life people into a single character. It’s so the audience can keep track of them.
Just seems a little silly to me that Nolan is all about the cinematic experience, but he spends the third act of his movie in this ridiculously small room with three wooden tables doing the board inquiry. Just about the least cinematic thing I can think of.
I also think that Chernobyl did a better job of building the relationship between the scientist and the political strongman. You could see that Nolan was going for the same thing with Oppenheimer and Groves, but there weren’t enough scenes between the two of them to make it feel as satisfying as what Chernobyl had. If he had cut out all that extraneous stuff with Strauss, he could’ve devoted more screentime to that.
One of Nolan’s middling efforts. I did not like Interstellar at all, and skipped out on Tenet. Seems to me that his best movies are now behind him.
Lousy movie - way too long.
Great discussion. There's a real IMAX theater in King of Prussia Pennsylvania 20 miles from where I live in Philadelphia. However at just over $26 dollars per ticket I decided to see it at a standard theater for $12 bucks. Sucks that it's so expensive to see in its best format. I'm low income and need to watch my spending.
I’m seeing it at King of Prussia on Monday! Already saw it at a standard (but still great!) IMAX theater on a DCP in Wilmington this past weekend. Still great!
Devindra: Why aren’t you seeing it at the Queen of Prussia?