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Please get Rick Doty on, and also Luigi Vendetteli.. who is making a new film about Bob Lazar with a a VR experience of area S4 it's gonna be most incredible.. project graviture is his company \ website. ok thanks.
@@markymark5281was thinking the same thing! and I would looove to see it. I wonder if she is still in Chile, idk her situation but traveling to the U.S. just for the podcast, it could be a prohibitive element. Though i know it would break the consistency of in person, if she live streamed in, it would be worth it.
The netfix gig was the absolute best produced, written, directed story I think I've ever experienced, can't wait for the other 4 episodes and possibly even, I might actually also find myself reading the book, thanks so much lads...
I have studied this case for years, and I really appreciate the discussion on it. One of the small details that I found compelling was the fact that one of the last people to see Danny alive was a gas station attendant, who brewed him a fresh pot of coffee before he went back to his hotel room. I don’t think anyone who is about to kill them self wants to be awake for it.
@@EthNick16 I’m not making a claim of legal proof of anything. I made a RUclips comment about a “small detail that I found I compelling.” If you are interested in the court case there is a huge amount of documentation you could look an instead of doing this. I recommend Eliot Richardson’s (former Attorney General) Rebuttal to the Bua Report and the addendum.
Watched the Netflix doc. Incredibly well done. As the story develops, its INEVITABLE Danny would be unalived. Danny was looking into matters that could have disrupted the order of things in the US at that time in the 90s. The idea that he unalived himself by slicing his wrist over 12 times is LUDICROUS!
Loved this interview. Warning for all listeners: it works fantastically as supplemental material to their Netflix documentary, but will be confusing if you haven't yet seen it, due to the incredible intricacy and depth of material.
Well, I haven't seen the documentary and this interview/discussion did nothing to draw me to it. They spent more than 3 hours vomiting unrelated stories. I had to bail out after an hour.
@@Nashvillain10SE I recommend watching all 4 episodes of the documentary, it's laid out in a way that's much easier to follow than this podcast episode and it's super interesting/entertaining. + you can come back and watch this podcast and believe it or not it will actually make sense 😂
lol the documentary basically says at the end that it’s impossible to know if anything is true because everyone is involved is either knowingly making things up or mentally ill. Only the beginning?? Nothing even started..
This was such a great conversation. American Conspiracy is PHENOMENAL. The most mind blowing thing I’ve ever watched, and so well-presented. This podcast was perfect to follow it up with.
Agreed. If it's someone's introduction to the story. Myself being well versed kept up with it. So I understand. I would go to Dark Journalist interview w Dr Joseph Farrell and his cousin who met Casolaro twice before he got got
Danny's face when he was introduced to the concept of for profit prisons.....Lol can totally tell he had no concept of that prior to this interview. Love the show great work!
For real. When I was working my way through college I was offered a prison guard job with Wackenhut. Turned it down because it paid half what state guards got paid and they wouldn’t guarantee my schedule. To guard prisoners, which is a dangerous job. It was like applying for a government job, and the whole thing had an odd fed/spook vibe, down to the nondescript office in an unassuming and sort of run down office building. Really weird company.
See for me, it highlighted why he’s way out of his depth in these interviews and is wasting opportunity to have profound conversations if he did the most basic homework and took a Masterclass on interviewing 😣
So, basically Wackenhut started a prison business, then the Cabazon Indians made bullets for third world guerillas, then somehow, related or not, a guy who had a funeral got a medal from some mysterious army officer, then the CIA killed a few people, throw in Bob Lazar's hand scanner....and guess what? Yup, Wackenhut made the scanner. BOOM!
This is sooo good. I've been dying to hear from the creators of the enthralling docu series. The story seems so far fetched and convoluted they did an amazing job of making it make sense. I was hooked! Hearing about their journey into make the doco was fascinating. Answered many unanswered questions I was left with after watching documentary. Great work koncrete!
I have followed this since I read Cheri Seymour’s book, “The Last Circle” when it came out. We shouldn’t even be talking about suicide, it would have been physically impossible for him to do so after severing his tendons and muscle on each arm. Just impossible. He was murdered, plain and simple. I think I know why he was murdered, and it wasn’t child trafficking.
Yeah good call! He said plutonium 10mm that might stop a bear. I am sure just walking around he would set some dirt bomb sensor off. Maybe even with depleted uranium which would make more sense.
This is a great point I know someone who was set up for gun trafficking in this way. He never had sold guns in his life but bc he happened to mention how easy it was in his state to walk in a store and get one, they set him up, repeatedly asking for more and more and more until they caught him on a big charge. The sad part is, he wasn’t the brightest to begin with, he genuinely didn’t think it was gun trafficking he was a bit slow. He was hit by a bus prior to all this and legitimately had defects in his thinking.
My grandfather took me to the very first tax free cigarette operation on the Cabazon rez in Indio around 1981. It was in a small construction trailer with nothing else around. WAAY before gambling etc.
WOW, I started watching (American Conspiracy. The Octopus Murders) Yesterday on UK Netflix , got 30 mins in, was gripped but had to leave for a prior engagement, Thanks guys
It’s already out been done “conspiracy of silence” banned by Discovery Channel, and like Christian said he can’t really speak on any other conspiracy besides this because it’s the only thing he’s looked into
@@ericte2400it was a sex trafficking ring in I think Washington (strong emphasis on the “I think”. I don’t know for sure if that’s where it was or not but I think it was). I forgot where it took place. It involved high government officials and many others. I would encourage you to watch nick bryant on it. He is a journalist who has covered the Epstein case and the Franklin scandal, and he is a true expert in both matters.
All right I thought that might have just been me, good to know... I feel like these guys just wanted to hear themselves talk and the way they interrupt each other is so awkward.
I spent the weekend watching and rewatching this documentary. There were times that I became concerned for Christian's safety, seeing the similarities between Danny's drive for the story and Christian's drive for answers. Wonderfully done, great interview as always. Thanks for the engaging and thought-provoking content!
Holy shit, I've been seeing this documentary on Netflix and couldn't find the willpower to actually get myself to watch it. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Great talk! Shedding light on this story is huge for the public at large to understand. That 13 part series on ghost stories for the end of the world is like a masters degree in the octopus!
Reading and learning so much in so little time probably got his mind running like a crack head. You say hi and 3 mins later they've told you about every conspiracy they know rapid fire and you feel like you got flash banged after
I remember that even as a young child in 1980 the timing of the release of the hostages appeared obviously orchestrated to benefit Reagan, and that it was criminal as hell to do that to the poor hostages.
I was born in 1950 and it was absolutely fascinating to hear the back story of what I lived through! So many dots connected. I lived in DC during the Reagan years as a hairdresser near DuPont Circle and was following history unfold before my eyes. What a lot of people don’t know is that Reagan emptied St. Elizabeth’s hospital and put all the crazy people on the streets of DC, without their meds and made it impossible to sit in the parks because the homeless were sleeping on the benches. I moved to Charlottesville in 1988 because DC wasn’t livable any longer.
Come on dude, the reason all the crazies are on the streets is because the government lost a law suit brought by the ACLU. They accuse the government of violating their rights by locking them up without a trial.
I was in So CA during covid lockdowns. The LB harbor had shipping container ships were lined up along the coast for miles for weeks. I wondered what was happening in the empty sea, sea lanes, empty oceans while all commerce ships were parked on the coast of the world.
Nobody mentioned that Danny was found with his wrists cut and A BAG OVER HIS HEAD. Who puts a bag on their own head before cutting themselves? I'll wait...
During the early 80s there was a boy who committed s by putting a plastic bag over his head. He did nothing more than the bag. It was a few weeks before he was to enter the 9th grade. We knew his uncle well. I only say this because it can happen. Am listening to this interview now so have no opinion yet on the death of DC
Allied actually recently purchased G4S which had purchased Wackenhut. Which also had obsolved blackwater… They all have roots in the Pinkertons and the secret service. All parts of the treasury department.
Honestly I cannot believe no one has brought up the similarities between Bill Benny when he was working at NSA and the guy who made the promise software it's like the exact same thing I mean not exactly because Bill Benny was a government employee but still they made his life hell because he wanted to make his software follow like the law you can't just spy on anyone you want who is a United States citizen for any reason u want & Bill Benny was a very distinguished NSA employee the guy is a freaking genius and they railroaded him the same way. They turned down his project because it came in too far under budget if I remember correctly they said what can you do with a few billion dollars well I think we can do it for a couple hundred million yeah but what can you do for a few billion dollars we don't need a few billion Bill Bernie was one of a handful of good people who worked at NSA we gotta get rid of that guy and investigate him knock down his door and bastards in a wheelchair he is dangerous.
I watched the documentary and it was amazing. I had no idea what any of this was so I stuck with it and I was not surprised that things like this are done. I’m sure there’s any more stories like this.
Also worth noting, Danny’s suicide note doesn’t say he committed suicide explicitly. It apologized for “what [he] did”, and it also says not to worry, that he’d be welcomed into heaven’s gates. At that time, the Catholic Church had not yet changed their stance on suicide. Also very well possible he was writing cryptically to indicate he was forced to write that letter and was trying to tell his family he did not commit suicide but was sorry he ever got involved in the whole thing.
@abbetteful I can't remember if she mentions it in her books but I'm sure she would. Other than that she's made a decent few podcast interviews talking about a bunch of different interesting things and PROMIS is mentioned in at least one of them. I'm sorry that's the best I can give you. Listen to one of them and see if if fascinates you I guess and if it does, go deeper. Most or all of it is related to what these guys are talking about.
Watching this podcast made me want to go watch the documentary; after I was done with that, I came back and finished the pod. Good stuff - Personal story - IDK why but watching this documentary actually gave me nightmares. Weird I watch all kinds of crazy stuff and never had that happen before.
Gambling was not the first time native Americans were financially independent. A native American tribe were the richest people on earth from extracting oil until that was also stolen from them.
Wakenhut has history and connections with the Pinkertons and the secret service. Wakenhut after this scenario was bought by G4S which had also purchased blackwater. Now at present time G4S was purchased by Allied Universal. Fun fact…. Pinkertons and secret service were originally commissioned by the Treasury Department which is closely related with the Justice Department 😊
1:21:22 .. "we're in good hands here". .. yes.. fascinating story.. with so many moving parts you really just have to start laying out details .. connections .. Danny's skills allow this to happen without losing us .. incredible conversation. thank you.
Alright I just watched the series and came back. Because this interview was confusing me lmao. But that was a good mini series. I’m ready for some more. Good interview Danny Jones
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This was absolutely amazing. Every single plot needs its own podcast. I didn't know half the shit now I want to know all. Great chemistry nerds 🤓 jk a lot of passion. You can tell. Great episode. Bring them back!
This is a gold mine of information, well done to both interviewer and interviewees. I imagine it is very hard to follow without having seen the series, but that must be difficult to avoid, given the subject matter
I’m 4:30 in and I can’t. Why is his guy conducting interviews? what adult doesn’t know prisons are privately owned?! He’s missed the mark at least a dozen times on middle school level knowledge. He should be embarrassed, completely unprepared
The interview has hardly anything to do with private prisons. Some of the major companies in the story had there hand in private prison among many other things but they could have just not mentioned that and it would take away nothing from the story 🤷🏼♂️
@@maxwellkrigbaum6852oh I understand it didn’t relate to the story but it’s common knowledge for anyone who’s at all interested in understanding America especially if you want to be an “edgy” podcaster “exposing the truth”
@@maxwellkrigbaum6852might want to figure out the difference between “there” and “their.” Then, maybe we can take your opinion seriously. Not knowing about private prisons as an adult is indicative of the overall understanding that someone has of the world around them. It’s like the easiest litmus test possible.
She copies cats' other people stories. People didnt give people the rights to their work she didnt do any work on capturing Epstein or anyone else these grifters need a new idea for book they should start a biography.
Yes, please. Her research in the national archives is an incredible piece of scholarship. She more than anyone has identified the power nexus that rules over us.
Missing fingernails - he was tortured. So what he wrote a suicide note. He warned his family he would not suicide. Paper in his shoe. Framed with booze cans and bottles, but no blood alcohol. Murder.
Ppl complaining about being confused are too simple to grasp it even if they watched the documentary. This is too complicated for even the brightest around.. Christian spent 12 years of non stop, everyday investigating to get to the point he’s at. It’s octopus murders btw
It is crazy how you relate the feeling of chasing the story to addiction. It sounds like how someone would describe a gambling addiction. These people being chased are master engineers of manipulation thru dopamine hits and understanding of human chemical systems. What master game have they constructed to ensure the truth is never found
Incredible doco guys. I usually can keep up well with reasoning within the episode or hour of whatever I’m watching, but this one had me scratchin ma head for ages still am. Proper shocking stuff yet not surprising as it to an extent confirms a lot of assumptions of what the intelligence acronym fellas carry out. Nothing is ever as it seems, ever. 🤓
These guys seemingly have a lot to say, but I have no idea who they are, what they are trying to explain, where their story comes from, or who they are even talking about. I watched from the very beginning but felt the entire time that I had missed out on the 5w’s and H. Totally confusing, and it is a shame because I would like to have found any form of coherence from these guys who seem otherwise interesting
That was a hard watch/listen. These dudes were jumping from thing to thing like crazy and they knew it too. Giving stupid replies to Danny’s questions, seemingly big noting themselves about nothing, fumbling their responses to questions immediately into the interview. The “oh I have a funny anecdote about submarines” then proceeds to go on about some submariner at some wedding that had absolutely nothing to do with the main plot story? NOT putting the dude with the medals on the coffin in the doco? I’m certainly not watching whatever garbage they’ve produced. Who’s vetting these guests? Lmfaooo
I'm not sure about "terrible" but these two guys are well-articulated, have great podcasting cadence and have a great order to things. I'd throw in some context bits and bobs throughout the video for those who haven't seen any of their content like myself. Certainly a baseline Danny Jones episode, which is good! Good vibes
Danny… you have to do better. I’ve listened for two hours and have no clue what’s going on. Sounds like it could be an interesting story, but still absolutely clueless as to what’s happening, who’s who, where’s what, etc. I know it’s a complicacted story, but you HAVE to do a better job navigating the listener and directing the guest. Come on man, be better! At least they’ll probably end up on Julian Dorey’s podcast, so hopefully we’ll actually be able to figure out what happened.
They all over the place hard to keep up,I'm familiar with the story of the Octopus ,Inslaw corp,Promi program,the program allow the user backdoor access to any computer on the planet.This is why Bill Hamilton was bankrupt, the program can track any person on the planet .The Netflix documentary is intriguing
@@Memphis901Production Yeah, but I shouldn’t HAVE to watch the documentary. There’s plenty of podcasts that do it right; Danny is just consistently bad at interviewing and moderating. If that was the case, he should’ve made a statement at the beginning of the podcast recommending to watch it before listening.
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Please get Rick Doty on, and also Luigi Vendetteli.. who is making a new film about Bob Lazar with a a VR experience of area S4 it's gonna be most incredible.. project graviture is his company \ website. ok thanks.
You really should look into doing an interview with Whitney Webb. She is very knowledgeable on the whole "octopus" and shadow government.
I was already taking Cordyceps and Lyons Main so Mud water is interesting to me. I'll try it out.
@@markymark5281was thinking the same thing! and I would looove to see it. I wonder if she is still in Chile, idk her situation but traveling to the U.S. just for the podcast, it could be a prohibitive element. Though i know it would break the consistency of in person, if she live streamed in, it would be worth it.
The netfix gig was the absolute best produced, written, directed story I think I've ever experienced, can't wait for the other 4 episodes and possibly even, I might actually also find myself reading the book, thanks so much lads...
I have studied this case for years, and I really appreciate the discussion on it. One of the small details that I found compelling was the fact that one of the last people to see Danny alive was a gas station attendant, who brewed him a fresh pot of coffee before he went back to his hotel room. I don’t think anyone who is about to kill them self wants to be awake for it.
Would this argument hold up in a court of law, in front of a judge?
@@EthNick16 That’s a great question for someone who would make such a claim.
Say what? Be awake for it? People drink coffee cause they enjoy it, not necessarily to stay awake. This doesn't say anything really.
@@kirknelson407 you are literally the person who made a claim. Would your claim hold up in court of law?
@@EthNick16 I’m not making a claim of legal proof of anything. I made a RUclips comment about a “small detail that I found I compelling.” If you are interested in the court case there is a huge amount of documentation you could look an instead of doing this. I recommend Eliot Richardson’s (former Attorney General) Rebuttal to the Bua Report and the addendum.
Watched the Netflix doc. Incredibly well done. As the story develops, its INEVITABLE Danny would be unalived. Danny was looking into matters that could have disrupted the order of things in the US at that time in the 90s. The idea that he unalived himself by slicing his wrist over 12 times is LUDICROUS!
What's the name of doc?
What’s the name of the documentary?
Check description i believe its american conspiracy something about an octopussy @@Dinofood117
American conspiracy: The Octopus Murders
@@joshbergman6217 thx!
Loved this interview. Warning for all listeners: it works fantastically as supplemental material to their Netflix documentary, but will be confusing if you haven't yet seen it, due to the incredible intricacy and depth of material.
Well, I haven't seen the documentary and this interview/discussion did nothing to draw me to it. They spent more than 3 hours vomiting unrelated stories. I had to bail out after an hour.
@@Nashvillain10SE I recommend watching all 4 episodes of the documentary, it's laid out in a way that's much easier to follow than this podcast episode and it's super interesting/entertaining. + you can come back and watch this podcast and believe it or not it will actually make sense 😂
Thank you. I’m coming back after I watch the documentary on Netflix. I was thinking just about that so I came to the comments for a clue. 😅
The Octopus is Thee Tip of the Iceberg Disclosure Doc! Christian & Zach made something incredible. This is only the beginning…. Great podcast Danny!!
lol the documentary basically says at the end that it’s impossible to know if anything is true because everyone is involved is either knowingly making things up or mentally ill. Only the beginning?? Nothing even started..
This was such a great conversation. American Conspiracy is PHENOMENAL. The most mind blowing thing I’ve ever watched, and so well-presented. This podcast was perfect to follow it up with.
I need to smoke a big fat joint and drink a sixer to follow this one, and I've been sober for 16 years now.
Agreed. If it's someone's introduction to the story. Myself being well versed kept up with it. So I understand. I would go to Dark Journalist interview w Dr Joseph Farrell and his cousin who met Casolaro twice before he got got
I mean it's common knowledge they even showed it alot In cartoons lol
I recommend against this approach.
Don't do it! ❤
Danny's face when he was introduced to the concept of for profit prisons.....Lol can totally tell he had no concept of that prior to this interview. Love the show great work!
For real. When I was working my way through college I was offered a prison guard job with Wackenhut. Turned it down because it paid half what state guards got paid and they wouldn’t guarantee my schedule. To guard prisoners, which is a dangerous job. It was like applying for a government job, and the whole thing had an odd fed/spook vibe, down to the nondescript office in an unassuming and sort of run down office building. Really weird company.
See for me, it highlighted why he’s way out of his depth in these interviews and is wasting opportunity to have profound conversations if he did the most basic homework and took a Masterclass on interviewing 😣
@@GenericScreenName808 He’ll get there
for sure as thats not really something that should exist.
Danny faces at things are priceless.
Watching the series may be the only way to understand this conversation
So, basically Wackenhut started a prison business, then the Cabazon Indians made bullets for third world guerillas, then somehow, related or not, a guy who had a funeral got a medal from some mysterious army officer, then the CIA killed a few people, throw in Bob Lazar's hand scanner....and guess what? Yup, Wackenhut made the scanner. BOOM!
It isn’t though. It’s equally convoluted and confusing
This is sooo good. I've been dying to hear from the creators of the enthralling docu series. The story seems so far fetched and convoluted they did an amazing job of making it make sense. I was hooked! Hearing about their journey into make the doco was fascinating. Answered many unanswered questions I was left with after watching documentary. Great work koncrete!
I have followed this since I read Cheri Seymour’s book, “The Last Circle” when it came out.
We shouldn’t even be talking about suicide, it would have been physically impossible for him to do so after severing his tendons and muscle on each arm. Just impossible.
He was murdered, plain and simple. I think I know why he was murdered, and it wasn’t child trafficking.
The guy trying to send them crazy weapons sounds like an agent trying to set them up with a charge.
Yeah good call! He said plutonium 10mm that might stop a bear. I am sure just walking around he would set some dirt bomb sensor off. Maybe even with depleted uranium which would make more sense.
This is a great point I know someone who was set up for gun trafficking in this way. He never had sold guns in his life but bc he happened to mention how easy it was in his state to walk in a store and get one, they set him up, repeatedly asking for more and more and more until they caught him on a big charge. The sad part is, he wasn’t the brightest to begin with, he genuinely didn’t think it was gun trafficking he was a bit slow. He was hit by a bus prior to all this and legitimately had defects in his thinking.
My grandfather took me to the very first tax free cigarette operation on the Cabazon rez in Indio around 1981. It was in a small construction trailer with nothing else around. WAAY before gambling etc.
WOW, I started watching (American Conspiracy. The Octopus Murders) Yesterday on UK Netflix , got 30 mins in, was gripped but had to leave for a prior engagement,
Thanks guys
These guys need to do a documentary treatment of the Franklin Scandal
It’s already out been done “conspiracy of silence” banned by Discovery Channel, and like Christian said he can’t really speak on any other conspiracy besides this because it’s the only thing he’s looked into
What's that?
@@ericte2400 Check out Nick Bryant
@@ericte2400it was a sex trafficking ring in I think Washington (strong emphasis on the “I think”. I don’t know for sure if that’s where it was or not but I think it was). I forgot where it took place. It involved high government officials and many others. I would encourage you to watch nick bryant on it. He is a journalist who has covered the Epstein case and the Franklin scandal, and he is a true expert in both matters.
One of the best documentaries ever. Opened up so many doors closed none. Want more so much more to know.
What a clusterfuck of a conversation. I'm 2 hours in and still none the wiser
I’m 20 mins in and I feel like I would fail a 5th grade math test, right now. My brain can’t handle the impulsive back n forth dialogue
All right I thought that might have just been me, good to know... I feel like these guys just wanted to hear themselves talk and the way they interrupt each other is so awkward.
Fucking accurate 😂
Never been so confused after a podcast 😂😂
Same! Two hours in, and I’m still just as confused as before I started it. Sounds like it could be an interesting story if I knew what was going on!
Had no idea where they were going...
I spent the weekend watching and rewatching this documentary. There were times that I became concerned for Christian's safety, seeing the similarities between Danny's drive for the story and Christian's drive for answers. Wonderfully done, great interview as always. Thanks for the engaging and thought-provoking content!
Holy shit, I've been seeing this documentary on Netflix and couldn't find the willpower to actually get myself to watch it. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Its all here say and fiction so its not that serious.
@@PeterGibbonns How much do they pay you Mr. Gibbons? Lol
What’s it called? Why is that info not easy to find in this post?
@@scottzigart3138let me know when you find out
Great talk! Shedding light on this story is huge for the public at large to understand. That 13 part series on ghost stories for the end of the world is like a masters degree in the octopus!
Danny seems to learn so much in every interview, and apparently is disabused of that info by the time the next pod is filmed
Lmfao Buddy is fried and probably doesn’t even smoke pot
Either he’s a complete dumbass or he’s a decent actor trying to play a Joe Rogan.
Reading and learning so much in so little time probably got his mind running like a crack head. You say hi and 3 mins later they've told you about every conspiracy they know rapid fire and you feel like you got flash banged after
@@Bandobenz18 its the smelling salts
The look on his face sometimes you can almost see him struggling to hold onto the information in the moment real time
"Between the idea & the reality, Between the motion, And the act, Falls the Shadow
I remember that even as a young child in 1980 the timing of the release of the hostages appeared obviously orchestrated to benefit Reagan, and that it was criminal as hell to do that to the poor hostages.
I was born in 1950 and it was absolutely fascinating to hear the back story of what I lived through! So many dots connected.
I lived in DC during the Reagan years as a hairdresser near DuPont Circle and was following history unfold before my eyes.
What a lot of people don’t know is that Reagan emptied St. Elizabeth’s hospital and put all the crazy people on the streets of DC, without their meds and made it impossible to sit in the parks because the homeless were sleeping on the benches.
I moved to Charlottesville in 1988 because DC wasn’t livable any longer.
Wow😢
Come on dude, the reason all the crazies are on the streets is because the government lost a law suit brought by the ACLU. They accuse the government of violating their rights by locking them up without a trial.
I was in So CA during covid lockdowns. The LB harbor had shipping container ships were lined up along the coast for miles for weeks. I wondered what was happening in the empty sea, sea lanes, empty oceans while all commerce ships were parked on the coast of the world.
You mean that they could've been parked out of the way of traffick for something like construction?
They were moving money.
Chris & Zach are truly 2 of the most double-minded, flakey people I’ve listened to. That’s saying quite a lot since I’ll be 69 this year.
They don't seem to realize that they are supposed to be taking to the Utube audience. I had no idea what they were even talking about. Bye.
Whitney Webb talks about this in her 2 volume book One Nation under Black Mail. You should try and get her on
She’s a smart, accomplished young woman. No way Danny’s team would know how to treat her.
@@MartineReeda woman who has had kids at her age is more accomplished than a careerist.
I always said that J.C. Penny was up to something and people just said i was paranoid.
IDK how my local one is still open. There's fiends constantly boosting stuff and hardly anyone actually buying stuff in rhere
@@itsme7570 Then store is just a front. They make their real money in other ways.
@@itsme7570what's the JC Penny story?
@@nonmups9973 what are you talking about?
@itsme7570 right? Nice try, fed. Lol
The octopus murders is AMAZING!!
Nobody mentioned that Danny was found with his wrists cut and A BAG OVER HIS HEAD. Who puts a bag on their own head before cutting themselves? I'll wait...
You do it after
Wait who?
They told that in documentary
Sounds kinky
During the early 80s there was a boy who committed s by putting a plastic bag over his head. He did nothing more than the bag. It was a few weeks before he was to enter the 9th grade. We knew his uncle well. I only say this because it can happen. Am listening to this interview now so have no opinion yet on the death of DC
Once I heard the shrimp and silencer story about 52 mins in, I was like I have to watch this.
Danny!
You shows are consistent the best RUclips chats around!
Wackenhut was also doing airport security before TSA, if I'm not mistaken.
Allied universal too
Allied actually recently purchased G4S which had purchased Wackenhut. Which also had obsolved blackwater… They all have roots in the Pinkertons and the secret service. All parts of the treasury department.
@@lorenkoski2714G4S was involved in a lot of the questionable events since a smith mindt was repealed. Pulse "shooter"/actor worked for them
So crazy Danny straight up every interview you’re doing is getting actually better and better every time
Honestly I cannot believe no one has brought up the similarities between Bill Benny when he was working at NSA and the guy who made the promise software it's like the exact same thing I mean not exactly because Bill Benny was a government employee but still they made his life hell because he wanted to make his software follow like the law you can't just spy on anyone you want who is a United States citizen for any reason u want & Bill Benny was a very distinguished NSA employee the guy is a freaking genius and they railroaded him the same way. They turned down his project because it came in too far under budget if I remember correctly they said what can you do with a few billion dollars well I think we can do it for a couple hundred million yeah but what can you do for a few billion dollars we don't need a few billion Bill Bernie was one of a handful of good people who worked at NSA we gotta get rid of that guy and investigate him knock down his door and bastards in a wheelchair he is dangerous.
Don’t believe Bill Binney offed himself!
Binney*
I feel like the guy on the left represents cough syrup while the guy on the right is adderall and Danny is Gary Busey's son
You fking nailed it dude 😂
Rofl. Ha ha. I cant unsee it now.
Lmao garey buseys son...wheres he been since starship troopers??
@user-vn1di4oq4w he's been in quite a bit he's pretty good actor as his father
LMFAO ... Yooo I just died soooo fucking funny.
I watched the documentary and it was amazing. I had no idea what any of this was so I stuck with it and I was not surprised that things like this are done. I’m sure there’s any more stories like this.
Also worth noting, Danny’s suicide note doesn’t say he committed suicide explicitly. It apologized for “what [he] did”, and it also says not to worry, that he’d be welcomed into heaven’s gates. At that time, the Catholic Church had not yet changed their stance on suicide. Also very well possible he was writing cryptically to indicate he was forced to write that letter and was trying to tell his family he did not commit suicide but was sorry he ever got involved in the whole thing.
Always thought this too !!
Grateful for brave independent journalists
PROMIS was the precursor of Pegasus.
👏🏼👏🏼this guy 🫡
Whitney Webb has some interesting things to say about PROMIS.
Promis = US
Pegasus = Isreal
Petya = Russia
Derived from wannacry
jews as always
@abbetteful I can't remember if she mentions it in her books but I'm sure she would. Other than that she's made a decent few podcast interviews talking about a bunch of different interesting things and PROMIS is mentioned in at least one of them. I'm sorry that's the best I can give you. Listen to one of them and see if if fascinates you I guess and if it does, go deeper. Most or all of it is related to what these guys are talking about.
Watching this podcast made me want to go watch the documentary; after I was done with that, I came back and finished the pod. Good stuff -
Personal story - IDK why but watching this documentary actually gave me nightmares. Weird I watch all kinds of crazy stuff and never had that happen before.
Gambling was not the first time native Americans were financially independent. A native American tribe were the richest people on earth from extracting oil until that was also stolen from them.
Mate I’m in Scotland and your guests are always dope AF 🏴
Wakenhut has history and connections with the Pinkertons and the secret service. Wakenhut after this scenario was bought by G4S which had also purchased blackwater. Now at present time G4S was purchased by Allied Universal. Fun fact…. Pinkertons and secret service were originally commissioned by the Treasury Department which is closely related with the Justice Department 😊
nuh uh
@@samhndrds believe what ya like, but you can look it up and make the connections yourself... And more lol
Loved every second appreciate yall
Danny J. Making Monday’s better.
Twice now I opened this , thought I’d try again , but I can’t do it .
Nick Bryant interviewed this creative duo as well. Worth a listen.
I think it’s funny how all of these podcasts pass around guests like they’re whores.
1:21:22 .. "we're in good hands here". .. yes.. fascinating story.. with so many moving parts you really just have to start laying out details .. connections .. Danny's skills allow this to happen without losing us .. incredible conversation. thank you.
Keep up the great work Danny! Love your content! Shout out from Lake Elsinore California
Make sure you stay in mexifornia, jose
Alright I just watched the series and came back. Because this interview was confusing me lmao. But that was a good mini series. I’m ready for some more. Good interview Danny Jones
John Tower and John Heinz were allegedly on the October suprise bribe plane. They both died in plane crashes on consecutive days in 1991.
Great guests great interview! I'm going to watch all the Danny Jones Podcasts! You're one great interviewer Danny Jones!
Big fan here in Beautiful Gorgeous Bangkok Thailand 🇹🇭 🙏 🌺 Thank you for your awesome work. These Dudes are absolutely fascinating and amazing. Excellent interview and incredibly eye opening for the sheeeple. Keep on ROCKIN and STOMPIN and staying healthy happy and safe😊 🙏🌺🇹🇭...
This was absolutely amazing. Every single plot needs its own podcast. I didn't know half the shit now I want to know all. Great chemistry nerds 🤓 jk a lot of passion. You can tell. Great episode. Bring them back!
definitely should watch the documentary before watching this to really understand whats being discussed here
This is a gold mine of information, well done to both interviewer and interviewees. I imagine it is very hard to follow without having seen the series, but that must be difficult to avoid, given the subject matter
9❤
We are so serious, seriously
The funniest shit ever is when he goes... "those assasins go to much bigger targets than us... uhh right?!?!" Bahahaa 😂 oh man that had me rotfl
Another banger, Danny you have improved so much yhr past 2-3 yrs, keep it up ace
I’m 4:30 in and I can’t. Why is his guy conducting interviews? what adult doesn’t know prisons are privately owned?! He’s missed the mark at least a dozen times on middle school level knowledge. He should be embarrassed, completely unprepared
The interview has hardly anything to do with private prisons. Some of the major companies in the story had there hand in private prison among many other things but they could have just not mentioned that and it would take away nothing from the story 🤷🏼♂️
@@maxwellkrigbaum6852oh I understand it didn’t relate to the story but it’s common knowledge for anyone who’s at all interested in understanding America especially if you want to be an “edgy” podcaster “exposing the truth”
@@maxwellkrigbaum6852might want to figure out the difference between “there” and “their.” Then, maybe we can take your opinion seriously. Not knowing about private prisons as an adult is indicative of the overall understanding that someone has of the world around them. It’s like the easiest litmus test possible.
Another great show
HAVE WHITNEY WEBB ON!
Why Whitney Webb? What does she do??
She copies cats' other people stories. People didnt give people the rights to their work she didnt do any work on capturing Epstein or anyone else these grifters need a new idea for book they should start a biography.
Same thoughts 😃
@@dakG347 she goes into all of this plus way more. Plus, she is written a book that is amazing.
Yes, please. Her research in the national archives is an incredible piece of scholarship. She more than anyone has identified the power nexus that rules over us.
Missing fingernails - he was tortured. So what he wrote a suicide note. He warned his family he would not suicide. Paper in his shoe. Framed with booze cans and bottles, but no blood alcohol. Murder.
watched the doc last night and am fascinated
Absolutely love these types of interviews keep it up Danny you the man
Ppl complaining about being confused are too simple to grasp it even if they watched the documentary. This is too complicated for even the brightest around.. Christian spent 12 years of non stop, everyday investigating to get to the point he’s at.
It’s octopus murders btw
Im almost all the way done with this pod and still have no clue what the hell is going on. My ADD isnt as strong to keep up information splatter
My wife's family was directly cut from this exact location in Campbellsville Kentucky in 1997.. wild
20:14 these guys are giving me bad vibes BYE
You think these guys are being paid to cover for the "shadow government" 😕 could absolutely be 100%.
Cool sweatshirt and love hearing your perspective on everything that is happening in your life. 🙂🧡
thank god its not another ancient aliens one
😂😂 wym? This is where I come to hear all of the ridiculous conspiracy theories lmao
Sean Ryan’s even worse
Excellent job having these guys on...can't wait to see the Netflix documentary.
Its called the Je....*gets assassinated*
exactly
*Cough cough* 9.11.01
@@ImGairBair "pull it"
...suits.....
the....Jesuits.....*cough*
😂😂😂😂
Eeeegghh… [Squints]
Congrats guys really well done documentary, Danny deserves justice ❤
That’s what they do these days, they say murders were suicide
Totally caught me off guard when he said Kentucky. That's where I'm from.
Me too, I wanted to go to WKU but ended up at UofL, didn't graduate lulz.
The Bluegrass Conspiracy ties in as well...
The NYC techies assimilated him.
@@Saerwen_Celeste yea I live in Louisville 🙄 lol
I'm surprised that Wilson and Terpil didn't come up in the discussion.
Really good interview. It helps when the host is well researched, nice job.
After listening to his whole conversation I only have one thing to say, “huh?”
'Like" "Ummmm" "Yaknow?" "Right?" ....I had to shut it off after 20 mins. I can't take it.
It is crazy how you relate the feeling of chasing the story to addiction. It sounds like how someone would describe a gambling addiction. These people being chased are master engineers of manipulation thru dopamine hits and understanding of human chemical systems. What master game have they constructed to ensure the truth is never found
This is an extremely disorganized interview.
It’s a supplementary discussion of their Netflix docco
@@Piperdreams It's possible to have an organized discussion regardless of the purpose.
I feel like danny jones turned the documentary off before it finished 😂
The Gen Z lone gunmen
Iykyk
Incredible doco guys. I usually can keep up well with reasoning within the episode or hour of whatever I’m watching, but this one had me scratchin ma head for ages still am. Proper shocking stuff yet not surprising as it to an extent confirms a lot of assumptions of what the intelligence acronym fellas carry out.
Nothing is ever as it seems, ever. 🤓
Wackenhut. From South Florida?
Explains why Fla has the most Private Prisons 🤔
Wackenhut is a deep hole. G4S. Mateen ( Pulse Shooter ).
@@BobRosselli G4S also do the security for our prisons & courts here in the UK
So thats how 305s are so cheap 😂
Huh @@user-vn1di4oq4w
@BobRoIsselli I think also the Boston Firecracker, pressure cooker Marathon show
These guys seemingly have a lot to say, but I have no idea who they are, what they are trying to explain, where their story comes from, or who they are even talking about. I watched from the very beginning but felt the entire time that I had missed out on the 5w’s and H. Totally confusing, and it is a shame because I would like to have found any form of coherence from these guys who seem otherwise interesting
Same here, 20 min in and no clue what we’re talking about
their talking about the documentary on netflix
Same here I watched for 10 minutes then went and watched the documentary. Now I'm back
Google is for you guys...ffs
it doesnt help that neither one can speak clearly there obviously nervous drove me nuts cause want to kno the story
This shits blowing my mind my dad worked for wackenhut for 27-28 years I knew some stuff but dam this is a wild podcast for me
Why is it I can listen to a Lex Friedman podcast and not have to listen to any ads and your podcast seems to have an ad every few minutes? I'm out!!!
Lex Friedman is a robotic podcaster. Perhaps you can upgrade to YT Premium.
Why would you admit you listen to Lex?
If the ads don't play, they don't get paid, and then they're out. Stop being a child
Odd I’m 40 mins in an saw one ad. 🤔
Lex has an actual job, whether he gets paid from RUclips or not is moot he’s doesn’t need revenue he’s just doin podcast because he wants to.
I love this podcast but this one makes no fucking sense lol, like genuinely at all
They had an office in Birmingham, AL next to CNC Corporation for a long time. But, I wanna say they did Security.
I’m glad I came here after watching the docuseries 😂 this was a great listen
Dude looks like Jeff dahlmer
He looks like Danny
My uncle Billy Capshaw was in the military with Jeffrey Dahmer Google him
The Dr. Jon character reminds me of John Perkins Confessions of An Economic Hit Man
That was a hard watch/listen. These dudes were jumping from thing to thing like crazy and they knew it too. Giving stupid replies to Danny’s questions, seemingly big noting themselves about nothing, fumbling their responses to questions immediately into the interview. The “oh I have a funny anecdote about submarines” then proceeds to go on about some submariner at some wedding that had absolutely nothing to do with the main plot story? NOT putting the dude with the medals on the coffin in the doco? I’m certainly not watching whatever garbage they’ve produced. Who’s vetting these guests? Lmfaooo
I'm not sure about "terrible" but these two guys are well-articulated, have great podcasting cadence and have a great order to things. I'd throw in some context bits and bobs throughout the video for those who haven't seen any of their content like myself. Certainly a baseline Danny Jones episode, which is good! Good vibes
Danny… you have to do better. I’ve listened for two hours and have no clue what’s going on. Sounds like it could be an interesting story, but still absolutely clueless as to what’s happening, who’s who, where’s what, etc. I know it’s a complicacted story, but you HAVE to do a better job navigating the listener and directing the guest. Come on man, be better! At least they’ll probably end up on Julian Dorey’s podcast, so hopefully we’ll actually be able to figure out what happened.
Terrible episode
Or you could just watch the documentary.
lol 😂😂😂😂😂
They all over the place hard to keep up,I'm familiar with the story of the Octopus ,Inslaw corp,Promi program,the program allow the user backdoor access to any computer on the planet.This is why Bill Hamilton was bankrupt, the program can track any person on the planet .The Netflix documentary is intriguing
@@Memphis901Production Yeah, but I shouldn’t HAVE to watch the documentary. There’s plenty of podcasts that do it right; Danny is just consistently bad at interviewing and moderating. If that was the case, he should’ve made a statement at the beginning of the podcast recommending to watch it before listening.
If you’ve seen their faces- you haven’t seen the rulers- soon to fall
Thanks, Danny. FJB.
If you can't make a simple online statement without having a meltdown about politics, you need to get serious help or a get a hobby.
@@QueefMcGeesHouseyou are, and you constantly cry here about rogan... baby
@@QueefMcGeesHouse you are lost and defending Joe, kettle meet pot.
@@dertythegrower Oh ok............
Baby
That Zapruder film bit is almost word for word from a Bil Hicks comedy special