Which to buy? 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance v Hyundai Ioniq 5N
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Which one do I buy?
The new 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance (“Highland” refresh)
Or
Hyundai Ioniq 5N
Both are serious performance cars but with everyday usability and the very low running costs you get with an EV.
Note that one of my main concerns is that the Tesla is far more expensive in the UK than it is in other countries. It makes the price gap between the two much closer than it is in other countries.
Given that, which would you go for?
In my opinion the Tesla probably has better efficiency and real world range (they’re good like that!), better software and I get free supercharging. Pair that with super low overnight electricity tariff and for 10,000 miles of driving it will probably only cost about £100 in “fuel”.
The Hyundai looks to be more fun, more character, more aggressive looking, better practicality, proven on track, more practical (hatchback).
Even though the Hyundai is more expensive, if I were to add enhanced autopilot to the m3p it would make them much the same (the Ioniq includes assisted driving).
First world decisions for sure, a very fortunate position to be in! Or maybe I do t buy either…
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Only Tesla is fixed at the top. What is the reason?
I read that 0 to 100 is 3.2
Where is the other comment 😂 def the Ioniq!!!!
Where I live the model 3 performance is 20000£ cheaper than the ioniq 5n
To me it is a no brainer
I care a lot about the sound system so I’d go with the Tesla
5N all day, every day. It's a rare EV with looks, performance and character.
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N all the way.
I personally buy the M3P, but its just because I like the simplicity of it, no engine fake noise, nice daily driver and a beast on the track. BUT for you guys, you should go for the 5N, it would create more content, also you could compare it to tesla after 1000 miles or smth, compare battery charge also, and would you still excited about the fake engine noise after a few months.
@@pindot787 Do you think people choose the Ionic 5n because of the fun of the fake sound? If you think so, you are an idiot. The reason people choose the IONIQ 5n is because of its excellent driving performance.
@@pindot787 If you haven't tested the Ionic 5n, just keep your mouth shut.
Pindot787 You can turn the sound off. Try again.
I drove the N at Fully Charged North. It was incredible.
Driven the Ioniq 5N it’s another level!!
Yeah it sure is another level of gimmickery, when it comes to actually driving it's far worse. SUV with a high CoG and 400kg heavier.
Every review I’ve seen of the Ioniq 5 N proclaims it to be the most fun EV on the road. I haven’t seen any reviews of the M3P that are negative, but I also haven’t seen a single one claim it’s the most fun EV on the road. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Hyundai just can’t compete. If it was purely a track car it might be comparable, but it’s not. Tesla echo system is untouchable.
@@DM-lc6pp charging network sure but everything else I highly disagree
@@i.d.6492 Once you have a Tesla why ever leave, they last for a very long time, are reliable, mostly more affordable yet punch way above its category. The Hyundai has many better specs like faster charging, but I charge at home maybe 5 times a year for 5min at supercharger to get home. Much more cluttered layout screens but some may like that about Hyundai not me. Even tho it may have some higher spec they have a hard time competing.
If all you want is fun then a Porsche or miata might do the trick. You can’t compare unreliable Hyundai to Tesla. Way to many negative reviews on hiunday having to replace entire battery because no one knows how to fix it. Etc… Tesla is king for a reason even tho the HY… has some cool party tricks
@DM-lc6pp I'll take all of the reviews raving about the Ioniq 5 out there over an obvious tesla fan boy that's never driven the N.
I think these comparisons are tricky because these cars are different sizes - sedan vs small SUV. The Ioniq 6N is supposed to come out in September 2025 and it is a sedan. I have little doubt that it will mop the floor with the Tesla with respect to performance and trackability. And the Model 3 performance may be great but I’ve seen many reviews for both cars and the reviewers uniformly gush about what Hyundai has achieved in creating such an engaging EV. That doesn’t happen in the Tesla videos nearly to same extent.
I’m getting the N. In performance blue. M3P was never in the running for me. Good luck with your choice
Same for me only with the M3P
@@jezza6575yup. The 5N is great but I’d still take the M3P.
Tesla if you buy with your head, 5N if you buy with your heart as it's definitely a better drivers car.
Have you driven both?
Definitely this!
@@MarkXHollandJason camisa has and stated the ioniq 5 N just humiliated all other EV manufacturers. Just give it time once they’re in “Car Enthusiasts” hands. Not people who never owned a “drivers car”.
The one that's nearly 1,000 pounds heavier is a better drivers car? I seriously doubt it...but I haven't had the chance to drive one yet (the Ioniq)
@@OneWheelMan doubting and the facts are 2 different things.
FACT IS, the N is a more engaging and fun drivers car.
You’ll start to see and hear more of this. This thing is barely out and so few people have them of course it might not seem like it. Especially to folks who own teslas.
Tesla is just like any other car, while Ioniq is unique, maybe hence the name. And you get all the cool sounds with it, definitely the way to go.
Cool name, shit car.
Hahahahahaha
Drove the 5N at Hyundai head office in Germany this week. Very impressive and to see others that have never driven electric genuinely falling for the car. I had a Model 3 Performance for 4 years and loved it but swapped for a Taycan GTS earlier this year. Charging isn’t as easy but it has more character. I would be tempted by the 5 N if I hadn’t just plumped for the Porsche. I think you may regret going Tesla again but I am sure it will be just as easy to live with as all model 3s are. I think the 5 N could be a real game changer with the virtual gear shift and configurations. Wish my Porsche had it as it really adds to the experience. It is the only thing missing from the Taycan Sport Turismo.
I would get the Ioniq. It’s so fun and it’s unique. One of the best electric cars. Yes I wish the range was system but tbh idgaf. Ioniq for sure
I received my M3P Highland ten days ago and have been driving it satisfactorily. It's perfect for daily commutes, road trips, and enjoying the speed with quick acceleration. While it's not perfect yet, being able to commute solely with FSD is something you can't understand until you've experienced it.
However, from a performance and driving fun perspective, the best electric car at the moment is the Ioniq 5 N. As a Tesla owner, I have to admit this.
If I could have convinced my wife, I might have purchased the Ioniq 5 N. In a few years, when the Ioniq 5 N matures or the Ioniq 6 gets a redesign with an N version, I'll buy it as a track car.
I can’t afford either but if I could I would go Hyundai. It’s still a great ev but looks infinitely better in my opinion. Plus Apple CarPlay is something I use everyday
you use apply carplay because the OEM system in your car is horrible... they all are except for the the system in the Tesla. I had an LC500 and used android auto because the Lexus system sucked. I don't miss android auto/apply carplay in my Tesla.
The Ioniq 5n is also the ultimate super EV, but I am waiting for the higher-end Ioniq 6n and Genesis Magma.
Just collected my 2024 M3P in the US and it's big improvement from my 2022 M3 Long Range. It's better in every way and it looks great in person!
Same old same old Tesla? Don’t want.
5N please!
Had multiple Tesla’s as other EV’s also, I’ve drove an N and it’s a different league. You gotta laugh at Tesla fanboys slating something they’ve yet to drive. Not really comparable cars to be honest either.
Remember USA prices exclude sales tax, vs UKs 20% VAT.
I have had 15 electric vehicles since 2007. I would go for the Hyundai. I have had 3 tesla and love them and the charging network- but the charging network is expanding quickly.
15? lol
The Hyundai is still a Gameboy on wheels. There is no way I would sick that over an iPad.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726Spoken by a true nonenthusiast nerd who rather date a computer than a real woman. 😂
@@JohnLee-db9zt ha ha. A real modern woman won't put up with a kid playing Gameboy.
@@JohnLee-db9zt I rather drive a car making noise from my mouth than the car doing it 💀
Had m3p for 3 years driven a few replacement ideas ex30 lotus electric myp m3p been trying to get hyundai test for 10 weeks had 5 mins in car immediately sold can't wait for lease to end on current .felt like rr evoke on eco audi rs4 in sport plus . Couldn't stop smiling . Dealerships are terrible no unaccompanied test drive 5 dealers no demo vehicle . All the best with your new m3p
I5N is a midsize SUV, and M3P is a compact sedan. If you want fun and practicality of SUV, pay more and choose I5N. If you want to save money and do not want extra fun and SUV practicality, choose M3P.
Should you not compare the Hyundai to the Model Y since that is a crossover like the Hyundai?
@almac9203 I agree. But some people compare I5N with M3P despite its size difference and class difference (SUV vs sedan). They are comparing apples and oranges.
I've had 5 Teslas and wouldn't consider changing to another manufacturer, a) supercharger network (3rd party chargers cost 85p per KW/h, the most expensive Tesla supercharger is 55p per KW/h) and b) software updates are just excellent
I got the first M3P delivery in Scotland. Its absolutely incredible!
Id definitely say its faster than the old car but i too was a bit disappointed compared with the US spec, but as soon as you touch the pedal, it makes no difference. Its staggerly fast!
The suspension is so impressive. Standard deals with the horrendous Edinburgh roads very well. The sports is more is a step stiffer for sure.
The new seats are also superb. I'm fairly broad so i wasnt sure if i would feel pinched, but not so.
I love what Hyundai have done with the i5 but as an everyday car, there was only one winner.
Cool to hear, thanks for that.
The M3P is the clear winner - Hyundai have done a great job - but the crown is still comfortable for Tesla
Not for long. And certainly not for performance.
@@georgevigil7001 I mean tesla could easily make a plaid+ or roadster but they habe bigger fish to fry RN
Clear winner? Hardly. Gearheads will prefer the i5N. It’s not always about the #s, i5N offers so much more that the Tesla would never offer.
@@ApexClubRacer all it dose is give you fake geara and sound other than that its pretty much the same as thee tesla
@@mcsike7264 my comment would basically be what the guy above said.
This is just not something that’s in Teslas DNA.
The Hyundai is a Drivers Car. The Tesla is a nerds car that’s not built for FUN in the way the N is. Completely different.
Sorry Richard, but a lot of what I heard was old(er) man thinking. Efficiency, range, comfort, free supercharging etc.
640hp!
Great looks instead of same old boring Tesla looks!
Great handling around the track, including drift mode and all those sounds (which have been perfectly worked out)!
The feeling when you're driving down the road that everyone can see you're in something special rather than a somewhat generic Tesla!
That's what you'll be missing out on!
I can't afford either car - I had to scrimp and save just for my 3 yr old E-Niro, but if I could, I'd have the Ioniq 5 N! For virtually the same cost as a base spec Taycan and all that poser credit knowing the car has got what its looks says it has!
The videos in this video show it in an okay light, look at Charoudin's test of the thing and it might sway you some more!
Ioniq5 N is going to give you more to talk about, Tesla has been done to death.
You mean like what a piece of shit it is compared to the Tesla?
but the ioniq5 n looks like shit😂
Best selling cars in the world for a reason.
When you vote with your wallet you always make the right decision
In many ways, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N gives more value for money (price vs. quality, features, technology and so on), Tesla, on the other hand, sells at a loss, which increases the price reductions and reduces margins!.
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N has only been on sale in the world's electric car market for less than a month, and the Tesla Model 3 Performance for longer (even though it has received a new facelift update), so the sales have been better in this regard (maybe 🤔), so let's follow this market for only 5-6 months later and let's see the situation regarding the sales statistics again!.
I had an older m3P, I now have an I5N. For your purposes, you’ve made the right choice 100%. I love the N, for me it was better (low mileage, home charging only, one driver) but everything you describe about your usage 100% M3P. Good choice!!
Tesla's Supercharging network alone makes this a no-brainer.
For those that can’t charge at home.
For everyone else 5 N.
You can charge non Tesla's at Tesla superchargers.
@@stevenjones916 this! 💯🙌🏽💥
@@georgevigil7001 love the 5n but I don't fully agree with the sentiment. It also matters if you plan on driving anything more than medium distance in areas where you don't want to miss the charging infrastructure. It's region dependent too. Where I live every charger that isn't Tesla is straight ass.
@@user_z01Tesla is opening their chargers to all non Tesla manufacturers
How can you possibly make the decision without test driving each?
If you're a Tesla fan, you don't need to take a test drive because the result could erode your beliefs.
My choice would be the 5N.
It’s more unique and special - Tesla M3’s are two a penny on the road now. Also, the Perf looks bland and no different from the RWD.
I just my 3 performance. It is a pinnacle of engineering
Teslas are now looking stale, boring and dated!
Tesla “Pinnacle of engineering” 🤔…… 🤣
Nowhere near 'pinnacle'. Christ, theyve practically strapped a bigger motor to standard M3 and called it performance. Jeeezaz. Not a chance.
@@SteYoung - exactly.
They haven’t got the auto-wipers working properly since December 2022 😬🤦🏼♂️
@@SteYoungdifferent interior / seats, different suspension and brakes different front and rear and vastly different drive train from base M3… hardly similar
100% Richard the Hyundai. They have created something totally unique and special here and easily stands out from anything recently thats been released . The M3P is nice but sorry albeit quick I definitely because of the uniqueness I would go for the N. By the way it does have matrix. I have an EV6 GT and that does and I am looking to change to the Ioniq5N in red. Track wise Hyundai’s N division are one of the best in the business and just look at what Hyundai have done around the Nurburg and pikes peak. It will leave the m3p for dead on a track. To have a car that does what it does and how it foes it with the almost unlimitless options you can have in settings is new and refreshing. I understand the sounds are fake, but from what many say it is as realistic as you get in an EV. And let’s be honest even a BMW M3 pumps artificial sound through the speakers. And who doesn’t want to hear you bouncing off a “rev limiter” in an EV. Regarding charging I totally understand, but in Europe certainly most Tesla superchargers are now open to all vehicles. So appreciate the free Tesla supercharger miles and efficiency most definitely. But as you have had loads of Teslas, I would have thought something different would have been nice and certainly for the channel. Also you and all of us know Elon will do a crazy price cut soon as he always does and especially as Tesla shares have taken a hit recently. But good luck with the new M3P and it does look better than the old one and look forward to the content on it. 👍👍
The Tesla is 1,000 % better than a shit Hundai.
@@MrUpscalemanI have driven the 5N, it’s not shit! It’s head and shoulders above anything Tesla have produced
@@MrUpscaleman Tell me what you found shit after driving one ?
Will be interesting to revisit this after the first track comparisons come out. I suspect the Tesla will be faster around a track, it's a fiat bit quicker to 60mph and 300kg lighter, which makes a massive difference around any track with a reasonable number of slow speed corners, but will be interesting to see either way
You can tell the folks that don't actually understand cars fall for the N marketing hype. Ioniq5N is significantly heavier and with a higher cog. You may like the fake sounds but the actual driver's car is the Model 3P.
Its just great that Hyundai have developed this car... I welcome the choice. Where is Toyota, Honda. Nissan..--Leading the EV selection is HYUNDAI---KIA---TESLA. For me, like you, driving Tesla's since 2017 ---i would go for the Tesla...I unlike petrol heads don't need the noise. For those who like track cars its the N... I'm writing this prior to the end of video.. looking forward to your choice.
Throughout that video I was hoping you were going to say "so I've switched my order and are getting a 5N". I'm sure both are great but for me the 5N is totally unique at the moment and I feel the first car to really show what can be done with an EV. If I had 10x my current budget I'd be straight down my local Hyundai dealer.
Richard like a load of us you’re a Tesla fan through & through.
Either way us subscribers will enjoy your review of the new performance & as you said if it doesn’t work out then look at the Hyundai 😉
Thanks for that!
You know exactly which one you gonna get. The same one as 99% of all buyers who’s trying to choose between these 2 will be getting and for many reasons
If I was spending my own money and I suspect I wouldn't shell out £60K plus anyway. But if I did I would try and get an idea of depreciation of both. My feeling is the M3P would loose more- it will be more common, it doesn't look radically different to the old M3P whilst the 5N would be less common which might help retained value and it does look more striking. The articfical sounds in the 5N might fun for a week or two bit like the farts etc in the Tesla. A good sound system is important to me.
The 5N might charge quicker witht the right ultra charger. but it might be close if one looks at miles per minute added as the M3P will be more efficient. I don't like the old school servicing requirements of the legacy makers which is a way of extracting more money for not doing much. So in summary a close call . I say this as a pretty happy M3LR owner.
Having driven one at Everything Electric I'd go for the Ioniq 5 N as its a hatch, looks more interesting and is by far the most engaging fun EV I've ever driven. Yes the Tesla will be more efficient but due to cheap electric it won't make a big difference and charging a non Tesla is getting easier by the day (I have an Ioniq 28 and can now do all my charging on Tesla Superchargers and that is with just 100 miles of range).
ionic better charging speed
But it cold/heat gates due to its typical terrible OEM HVAC system (3 radiators!).
Easily the 5N. 0-60s is all the M3P has.
Never has a quick machine lacked so much fun or soul. Stands in the shadow of the 5N.
The 5N is a real game changer. Thank god for the 5N. There is a future in fast EVs afterall and it starts with 5N..
Seen too many reviews and videos to know its one the best all round fast EVs. The M3P is just quick. Thats it. #Boreoff and buy the LR Model 3 if u must have M3.
He’s literally just told you that the M3P is 5k cheaper, has much better tech, is faster and has the supercharger network. Sorry Hyundai fanboy lol.
But the software. You want something future proof that isn't just a car. Guaranteed Elon will be shoehorning Grok AI into Teslas at some stage and other cars will feel like Nokias compared to a smartphone with internet. Also since when is it ho hum to have 0-60 under 3 seconds for that price? I think people are getting jaded with the insane acceleration/price ratio we now have
From everything I've heard and seen on the I5, I would pick that. The tech in that car is unmatched, and I am a big fan of the M3P. I've driven one and was blown away. There's so much more to driving than straight line performance though, hence my choice.
But the Hyundai will get left on the shade on software and I also bet Elon puts Grok AI into Teslas pretty soon as a software upgrade
@@GraftonPrimaryvideoNerd 😂. You just don’t get it. You want a fancy laptop, not a driving machine.
Tech? The Tesla will always beat the I5 for tech.
Your second statement implies the Tesla is only good for straight line performance.
Conclusion: You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@sgrb11Actually he does. I’ve driven every Tesla model. I’ve driven the Plaid and M3P on track and they both suck. Vehicle dynamics is nonexistent around twisty corners, has brake fade galore, and prone power derating due to battery overheating after a few short laps. Recently did test drive of the 5N around track. I was in awe. No EV out there that’s so much fun and good around the corners as the 5N, and I’ve driven the Taycan Turbo. The virtual shifting and sound are addicting. I thought I’d hate them. No production Tesla can do one full lap, let alone two like the 5N, around the Nurburgring without special modifications. So you don’t even know your own Tesla. But I expect that from a typical brainwashed Tesla fangirl.
@@JohnLee-db9zt We're not talking about fun factor though. The 5N has almost the same Nürburgring lap time as the old M3P. The new one will be a lot quicker.
Putting "Performance" to one side we have an Ioniq 5 and a Tesla MSLR. Simply the Ioniq 5 is a great family car, loads of room and very comfortable. The two things I don't like is the lane keeping - can't be permanently turned off, and the many buttons and switches. Also software is not as good as the Tesla and it has a maintenance schedule. Low speed driving returns about the same as the Tesla but higher speed the miles/ KW drops away.
The Tesla has a simplicity that after a year I really appreciate, software is great and updates with ease. The big one is the Tesla charging network.
If I wanted a larger family car I would by a.....Model Y.
What I like about this channel is that although Richard likes Tesla he does notice its faults , lights, ride ,WIPERS! , it’s nice to see the realistic view, and as I have driven over 100k in my m3 I agree with them also with the positives. Good balanced view in my opinion.
I think for your circumstances you have made the right call. You want a sensible car with some extra sparkle as opposed to an ASBO wearing "herbert" number.
Hyundai 5 N is $20k more than M3P if you go grey and get $7500 instant rebate here in US.
M3P is nearly 20k cheaper than a i5N in Switzerland..so i ordered the Tesla at the release date🎉 clear decision
Same in USA, m3p is no brainer.
You make no sense. It’s like saying a Mustang is $20k cheaper than a Corvette ZO6, so the Mustang is clearly a winner. The ZO6 performance and driving dynamics are on different level.
@@JohnLee-db9zt yeah but unlike the ZO6 the hyundai will prob be the same or slower then the model 3P
@@JohnLee-db9zt In this case your paying more for less, model 3 is faster and has better range.
I just bought a Ioniq 5N did 3000 km in less than two weeks and I really love this car
I don't know about the M3P, but yesterday I took the RWD for a test drive and found the braking to be very weak, I had to put a lot of pressure on my foot to brake in an emergency, something that never happens in my current Mercedes where the brake pedal is super sensitive.
Picked my m3p up 2 days ago, first in the uk according to the delivery team. It’s amazing 🤩
The Tesla is the sensible choice ( if there is one). Better suited to your requirements. And let's face it, you're going to get an Ioniq eventually anyway! 😂
Tesla is a good A to B-car with good acceleration. Ioniq is the BEV you bring to a track day.
My personal vote would be the M3P. Thousand pounds lighter, bit smaller footprint, somewhat more proven reliability. Not like it isn't a tough fight though, the 5N is brilliant and a rather special vehicle for sure.
hyundai will be more rare compared with Tesla
I’m in Australia, I have an i30 Fastback N, an amazing car on the road and track. I drove very the Ioniq 5 N at N Festival at Sydney Motorsport Park last December. I had 2 flat out laps and really felt like an ICE car with all the sounds a gear shift emulation. It’s a quite a chunky beast and even with the suspension on the hardest setting, it felt quite soft even with the Hyundai sports bucket seats (Which I love and are in my N) Having said that, I will take delivery of a Tesla M3P in a few weeks. In Australia the N is $122,000 and the M3P is $87,000 - so quite a difference. I really love the tech and silence of the Tesla and the sound system is superb. The Tesla is smaller than the N (I hate SUV’s) and The Tesla is 400Kg lighter. The sports seats in the M3P are very soft compared to the Hyundai, and there are are no belt pass throughs in the Tesla seats. I think the N’s are more track focussed and the Tesla more daily driver focussed with track capability. I will certainly miss my Fastback, but I wont miss paying for fuel or the lousy sound system and headlights.
5N
The Hyundai looks too boy racerish with its styling, going to need some new baseball caps if you get one.
Exactly!
If you want to have real fun, giggle and smile, then ioniq
If you want to destroy almost anything you come across, Model 3 performance.
If you want best of both, Model 3 Standard range for £40k
And if you want a hatchback, polestar 2
lol, you lost me at ‘Polestar 2’
I'd buy the M3P every day of the week.
Get them both!
I got a Tesla because it's cheap to run, quick, and quiet. Who the hell wants an EV that sounds like a petrol engine. If I want sounds I go for a E Type Jag , or a motorbike. Norton Dominator. One thump per lamppost. Tesla is software that a car is built round. All others are, cars with software.
In Denmark the 5N are 38% more expensive, i would choise the Kia 6GT if i was buying that kind of car, mainly because the can tow and you can get them 2.hand. The 5N is the most fun, but i think the sound and man.shift will be fun for a week or two and then not being used but more usefull than fart sounds. You have made the sensible choice of the two.
As someone that has a 5N, honestly its hard not to pick the new m3p with the price difference in the states. m3p is probably the best bang for buck car out there. I really dont think you can go wrong with either.
Definitely, a Tesla Model 3 Performance is hands down a good choice since the car is better than the Ioniq 5 in terms of software, charging network, battery efficiency, and ease of use of the infotainment system.
Model 3 wins my vote 👍😉💪
Problem is lack of Tesla supercharging network with the Hyundai.
I will not buy a M3 performance, the excessive price in the U.K. means I will not buy. Cheaper in Ireland where import duty is the same, VAT is higher. It’s inexcusable. We are being ripped off. People need to send Tesla a message and not buy.
Yes, tempting… and tomorrow is due to be collection day
I've got a test drive booked for the M3P on Monday. The Ioniq has clearly had a lot of development and very impressive upgrades. But for me, the every day practicality and long trips (I go to southern Italy) the Tesla has it licked. Even without free charging, Tesla's superchargers are comfortably cheaper than the rest. As for the fake noises etc, I think Porsche have done it well (although I'm very happy with no fake sounds), I know in the Ioniq I'd be switching all that off. Having said that, its clearly a great drivers car. Maybe when the whole of the supercharger network is open to all, it will be a closer contest for me. Although I'm still struggling to part with the comfort and practicality of my Model S. If Tesla were to do an Audi Avant sports hatch type version of the M3P, that would be game over for the rest.
Ioniq 5 N, chewing over pressing the order button at the moment, but more as a 2nd car for fun - expensive toy
If I could I would!
If you want to buy a fun weekend car…buy a gas car….
At the time of this post, in the States, the Tesla Model 3 Performance is 54,990. Then, with the 7500 instant rebate tax credit, it is 47,490, and NO extra for white interior.
However, only Stealth Gray is free, the other colors (white, blue, and black) cost 1k and the red is 2k extra. To top it off, there is 1.99 APR financing (in spite of the sky-high interest rates)
We are being totally ripped off in the U.K.
Charging and Software alone, I would go Tesla, Hyundai probably get 1 update in 5 years.
Really comes down to how much people value the simulated ICE features and the daily driving aspects which includes the software and so on.
For me, if I really need the drama of ICE, I would rent one for a day and fet my fill. The Tesla app and vehicle software works very well. The amount of updates and quality of the over the air updates is something no other builder mayches yet.
Kudos to The Hyundai Motor Group for the great EVs they have brought to market. They are in general, the best alternative to Tesla for those who refuse to buy something related to Musk.
From a mercanary pov, the Hyundai would get more RUclips attention. And it's a hatch - the whole point of that 70s-80s revolution was they were hot hatches. More practical. And if you're picking performance - on real roads it's mainly about fun not outright speed. And in any case, how long would you keep either? Less than 10k miles? So 2-6 months at most? Get the M3 Perf next, have your fiill of the Ioniq 5N. IMO
Yeah I think one will follow the other
5n is a clear winner the Tesla is boring and looks same old same old
But it’s not though.
@@shou635 Tesla are shit
Who in the world would choose anything other than Ioniq 5N, there aint even a comparison. First interesting electric car that really seams fun to drive. + it looks like a grown up Delta Integrale, no competition.
Model 3 all the way! Deep red!!! Come on, white? NNOOOO!
Has to be the new deep red with carbon fiber bits to be added here and there!! Yes man!!!
Don’t forget about Australia and how much the value of new (and used) Tesla’s have dropped recently amid the floodgates of other Chinese electric cars considering we are a country that no longer makes cars and therefore doesn’t impose super high import tariffs like USA and Europe to protect their industries. We now get them for less $’s.
Ioniq 5N is definitely more fun to drive but the pricing difference here in Australia is approx 30k difference between the model 3P and 5N. I've test driven both (also seal performance) , and I don't think it's worth spending that extra 30k just for the fake engine sounds, and better build quality overall (for Hyundai). Tesla has come a long way, the new 3P suspension is so good for the daily, and also for track use. I think Tesla hit a sweet spot in terms of pricing, performance, daily usage, and finally in terms efficiency and the charging network.
Tesla please bring on some fake exhaust sounds too 😊
For track use, you will need extra mods for M3P.
Not necessarily (atleast for majority of people)who takes the car to track once or twice a year... Tesla has a built in track mode, where you can tweak how to distribute the power, and the new OG brakes, and dampers are decent enough for a part timer..
Different story if you track on a regular basis
In Australia, the gap is even bigger between the two
Both cars are awesome, but everyday life I think the model 3 wins.
The Ionic 5 N in the States is 67,810.. a substantial amount more than the Tesla. I used to own a Hyundai, and although they have come a long way, they ain't no Tesla.
Nearly half the Tesla supercharger network is now open to other EVs. Except that they've limited 800V charging to 93kW max. I can't imagine why!
It's easy, the Supercharger can supply 500 Amps and 400 Volts, the 800V cars can only handle 230 Amps when they also have to convert 400V to 800V
don't forget you're paying about 30-50% more to charge your non-Tesla at a supercharger
@@TheMadmax0609 but its still cheaper than charging at a non-tesla supercharger like Instavolt
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@@TheMadmax0609 Why isn't this mentioned more? I get somewhere and there's say a BP Pulse that costs 85p/kWh or I can drive 20 miles up the road and be charged 34p/kWh. I know it's totally hypothetical but say you use public charging 100 times a year to charge 50kw a time. That's £4250 vs £1700 at an SuC. I've noticed that when an SuC moves in next door to a non-Tesla site, the price magically drops a little too. I assume an SuC is profitable but they don't take the urine.
It had to be the Tesla.
I’m convinced that Hyundai/Kia are the best non-Chinese competitor to Tesla, and it would be a good car, but the Tesla will be better all things considered.
Here in Belgium we usually get charged top wack. But the M3 performance comes out at 48k. If you are getting charged 60k, that price difference cannot last long. But we only get 6k in superchargering credits.
I would definitely choose the Tesla Model 3 Highland, if you buy before July 1st in the UK you get 15,000 miles of FREE supercharging.
Ionic 5 n all day long
Got my M3P last Friday and I can say it’s one special car…So happy I chose it over the 5N!
Did you testdrive the 5N?
Like you actually drove a 5N for comparison. You’re just another Tesla fan girl.
@@JohnLee-db9ztYou just feel threatened by Tesla, and no doubt can't afford one. Definitely a boomer 😂
You’re comparing two different class of EVs. Nerds (Tesla) Vs enthusiasts (5N).
It probably shows that I'm getting old but I prefer the more stealth look of the M3P. The Ioniq looks very aggressive. When you are in that I imagine every boy racer on the road will be challenging you. It would just be too tiring having to respond to them 😊
Tesla Model 3 as a saloon doesn't fit my family needs. As both of these are massively expensive to insure... Insurance isn't a factor. However, paying £65,000 for a Hyundai puts me off also. So this purchase would only be made if I won the lottery.
I am confused by the M3 and Ioniq 5 comparison here. The Ioniq 5 is a Model Y competitor and not a Model 3 one. This comparison seems quite stupid to be honest.
Nah, it's the Tesla. Especially here in the U.S, for me it's a no-brainer. Also, fits my style more
Hi Richard, I’ve just had an email from Tesla about a new promotion here in UK. 15000 free supercharger miles and an improved part exchange offer!
5n will beat the Tesla hands down we owned a normal 5 and my mate has the m3 and the 5 is better, electric seats v manual come on that’s not an factor
sorry but i had laugh when i heard:
cons - tesla: no lights by the door handles 🙃
pro - ionic: has got rev counter. 😝
but love the video, keep it up!
Haha I know! Sorry but if that is considered a ‘gripe’, then clearly he’s clutching at straws a bit. I work for Tesla and I can honestly say I have never heard a single customer complain about the lack of handle lights on their 3/Y. Only people I’ve seen moaning are (shock horror) RUclipsrs.
Tesla, Hyundai and Kia plagued with unreliability
Nah, Tesla have been the most reliable cars I’ve had
@@RSEV I meant I’d choose the Tesla, owned an M3P for 3 years and 75k with no issues. Drove an I5 and an EV6 and both let me down with 12v and iccu issues. Will get another Model 3 when my company lease expires as can no longer trust the Kia/Hyundai brand
UK always more expensive
Has nobody watched the Chris Harris, Matt Farah & other reviews
These two cars are not even in the same league.
I can’t believe that people would choose the M3P over an N.
We run a M3P for one of our sales guys, another runs an Ionic 5. Notwithstanding the N variant, I’d go Ionic 5.
I’d like to like Tesla, but just I just dont.
Tesla is really starting to lag behind with the lack of 800v architecture too.
What the Tesla does have on its side is efficiency. Though, for most efficiency of an EV is a tiny proportion of ownership.
I’m sure the 5 N will have much more appeal to the younger driver than the model 3 does if only in styling and kerb appeal but surely the insurance premiums are going to be crippling with so much power and speed available.
We in the UK just get screwed by Tesla. While other EU countries have seen reasonable price cuts, we get 15k miles (valid for a limited period I believe). W T F ?
The way they treated those who ordered the Model S Plaid was disgusting.
Great video Richard. Could you please confirm validity period of the 15k miles when you get it? Thank you