Assembling the NA HOLY GRAIL - 9.0L V10 Stroker | Part 4
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Prefix 9.0L Xtreme stroker build (825hp/750tq)
Check out Part 1 "Viper motor blew up, why it happened", here: • Viper motor BLEW UP! |...
Check out Part 2 "$30 part nukes $30k V10", here: • $30 Part NUKES $30K V1...
Check out Part 3 "Why I chose NA over TT for my Viper", here: • Why I chose NA over TT...
In this modern era it's rare to see naturally aspirated street builds like this. I admire this
PUT TWO HUGE ASS PLANE TURBINES ON IT
@@TheRobertChannel 330hp Naturally Aspirated from a K24???
@FuFu AMG Nguyen why isnt it a drivers car? 330whp from N/A k series is straight up fun
@FuFu AMG Nguyen yeah, 300whp daily civic is awesome,
@FuFu AMG Nguyen well we will find out, haha, right now its at 200 whp n/a, rbc intake and some other goodies should be here soon,
Glad you went with that build instead of the turbo one. 780 -800whp n/a will be killer and plenty to crush most 900-100 whp boosted cars
I absolutely agree with you. There's nothing impressive about making gobs of power with boost unless we're talking about a 1.3liter making 1100 whp. Allmotor is true power.
Truth! This thing is gonna punch well above its weight!
I believe he made 800 crank so about 700 rwhp
@SneakySnakes exactly most people don’t understand power under the curve and displacement only peaky dyno queen numbers . This car with 700+ whp will our trap many boosted ricers making 900+ whp why because of tq, power under the curve and no heat soak. Most 750-800 whp vettes our trap 1000whp Supras because of a wide power curve. Your viper should trap 144-150 in good weather on e85z. Most boosted cars don’t trap that. Most people don’t understand power for power n/a is faster than boost and boost needs 100 more hp to run with a strong n/a carof similar weight and power.
@@TheBb6prelude lol there's nothing impressive about this either. A 6400rpm redline? What are we back in 1968? If you want to see impressive NA power Checkout Sasha and his 4.2L VQ 6-cylinder making over 600hp.
Are you an engineer by profession? Your word choices and descriptions are spot on. Very smart they way you built this. Most people don't understand torque and the area under the Dyno curve. Great job! You have earned a subscriber.
Thanks for the extremely detailed breakdown of your thought process. Very enjoyable
I have a 88 fox with the same swap everyone else has and a little boost. But if these cars had came out back in my younger days I'd have lived in a box to get one. This is probably one of the best builds ever. Great car and the best motor porn ever.......
Watched all 5 parts and definitely learned a lot. Appreciate you making these vids and the cogent commentary. ✌
I've been following your channel for some time now. I've never been a Mopar guy, but I really dig your Viper. I'm really thinking about get one now. This from a Ford guy. Keep the content coming.
The momentum and anticipation are building with each video. Tired of your rambling? Bro we are here for it!
I'm so excited😆 so few all motor monsters out there. This is awesome, congrats
That torque curve explains the videos.. damn. Great video series thank you!
A good power band is what makes a car fast
Very nice torque curve. I'm also a fan of doing everything right from the ground up and not taking shortcuts. Very nice car.
This was my dream build. Just as the SRT engineers intended. Preach Sneaky!
Really impressed and appreciate the granular breakdown of the build out.
WHAT A BEAST!!! Great stuff... Love it! N/A all the way! You earned my sub!
Can't wait for those kills!
Nice nice nice nice. I have been watching you for years but this is the first time I seen this tech vid. Awesome!
Love this motor more than the LS, it's just so right. Idk how to describe it but it scratches so many itches for me
What I love about the graph is how HIGH the tq is at such a low rpm.. and how linear it goes.. now I want this for my SRT10 truck LOL.. maybe one day. great overview of your decision making etc so far. keep up the fun vids etc. cheers.
Why did 14 Corvette owners dislike this video? 🤣🤣 I respect the hell out of this build. I want to do a Viper engine swap soon and I'm using a lot of your videos for reference. This thing is Nasty!
I love building motors, can't wait to see some runs. Keep these videos coming 🤟🏾👍🏾🤟🏾
So late at night to be dropping the video. Great idea of the 4 Dyno overlays. Hope there is a solid gain with the stroker. Also should be fun to see even more FI cars struggling now.
Easily my fav channel you articulate sob. This car is gonna riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip!!!!!!!!
Prefix is right down the street from me. I have them scheduled to install my BBG headers and VE Ti exhaust at the end of next week on my 5th gen. Final goal is to get a 9.0L extreme, but it’ll be a while before then.
Can't wait to hear and see your Viper back on the road.🙌
There are a couple of really smart young guys building a 4-valve Ford V10 (the YT channel is called Build It Yourself). I'm thinking the Viper may have some competition.
Glad to see everything going well man been loving ur viper for a while now was probably more sad than You maybey not lol when it broke but glad u in the position go get her to strike again.
I seen 9.0L and assumed “it’s not a Viper engine then” but I got to the part where you said Gen 4 block and felt better
love these series man!
Average power is gonna be like 90% of peak!!!! The kinda curve only a big displacement, high-compression proper NA setup can produce! No matter where in the power band, it's gonna be a beast and shift recovery?! What shift recovery, this thing is gonna be on kill all the time! Can't wait to see the kills!
Avg power is everything. Wish people would brag about average power the way they do about peak (a mostly meaningless number).
People don’t really understand power under the curve is most important not peaky laggy inconsistent power from a dyno queen import motor .power for power n/a is faster than boost and I don’t know why people try to argue me down on that. Shows they don’t race and or have no clue about how things really work.
Having 9.0 liters of v10 business under the hood means you could probably start in fifth from a dig and beat most cars on the road. Torque everywhere and so satisfying!!
@SpeedLife301 @SneakySnakes Truth! Witness why many centrigufal blower cars put out HUGE peaks, but don't run that hard outside of the last 500 rpm before the shift! Each time they shift they can lose 200hp, that's insane! This motor is going to lose like 30 on a shift, ha ha. It’s gonna just live near peak power the entire time you’re racing, just insane! You've built a rocket!!
Driving one of yhese Beast s currently ....
Plus with the Supercharger ,headers
New 3 fuel pumps 2 auxiliary oil pumps
Larger fuel injectors
All forged internal parts rockers I beam
Pushrods pressure plate. All aspects handled .......
You just killed Hutch and those goddamned little. Dogs .
550 ci.
1000hp.
Just a goddamned Viper freak .
Also this exact car was written up in car and
reinforced with a do it all...heads with all intake manifold
Yo I love all your videos! Love the Viper! Cant wait to see it back on the road killing thangs! I got a Srt8 not a challenge for this Viper but I'd still race you! It would be an honor to lose to you and the Viper!
Thanks for the update!
I could listen to you talk for hours.....no homo
Now we need a carbon body in that sneaky snake blue
I was going to procharge my Viper but im all for the 9.0L
800 WHP with a 200 shot and booyah!
I would love to see different heads on this bottom end. Are there any 16 valve heads that could fit?
Now i need that 9,0L conversion also 🤣👍
Sure you could've done what everybody else does and twin turbo it and make 1000hp easy but you went with the better choice i think going n/a, everything that goes into plumbing and wiring to twin turbo it is just another thing that can and eventually will go wrong
How about a 10 liter V10? :)
Just done all 4 build videos, great information and lots of engineering porn with shiny metal. 😎
how much for a new (BRAND NEW) 9.0L V10 ?
im coming
How much this viper engine weights? Block and overall weight also with turbos cylinder head?
The house I just moved into has a Ram SRT10 parked down the street that hasn’t moved in 2 years.
Is it worth it to see if I can buy the truck cheap to build the motor and sell the shell, or should I look at a different generation block?
My goal is 8k rpm
really surprised V.E. could not meet your expectations . i know they are a smaller shop . but i thought they were pioneers and they were best for N/A guess not. i knew there was issues with gen 5 in 2017.. good to know gen 4 is a more reliable build. i am not a fan of stoker motors . i hope this build changes my mind .
VE doesn't do internal engine assembly, nor do they have an in house machine shop.
@@SneakySnakesthanks for the info. also thanks for the updates on your car if you can give us detail on how this motor is different in performance ,gas economy , parts ect ect compared to the previous motor and build it would be much appreciated . also thanks for your time and effort with your videos.
Ball park, what does the entire motor project cost? I ride motorcycles because they are very fast for the cost. No worries if you are not comfortable sharing that detail.
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Will you do a cost breakdown on everything? Great video
It's such varied thing because of the different options and upgrades that one can do. To build a turnkey 9L Xtreme with heads/cam will likely be around 35-40k (if you bring a stock gen 5 viper motor).
@SneakySnakes thank you! Can’t wait to see this beast hurt some feelings
@SneakySnakes 40k? Y dont u just turbo at that price? The car is only worth 90k & u spending 40k for stroker engine??
@@narbehshahinian8813 turbos are going to run you 6 figures
Love to see a 100 shot or a 200
hemiyacht charger that’ll really help her on the top end
awesome
Very very nice 600ft lbs at redline looking forward to part 5. What clutch you have hold the power?
9 liter v10.. should be above 1k hp mark.. so maybe some cams.. more revs.. i see 6.3k rpm... not very high... a lot of room for gains! :)
So you upgraded from an xv block to a zbii block
Do you have belst on the engine ? if you have you can try to remove them by using altenator...engine without belts will give more power and more insta respons..
Camshaft selection? Any porting of the intake manifold?
can you please add in the description where you got your components like stroker crank, lifters, etc?
thanks.
interested in doing "this" to a 1st gen, stroking it that is, thanks.
www.prefix.com/performance/
Did you get any of your internals cryo-treated? Just curious.
00:13 fml the entire thing is huge...
I got tricked to but it's a semi engine in the picture
I have a gen 2 ,, is there a 9L kit for it
I hope so I want to 9.0 my 2000
Wanna sell your old block?
nice vid well you can forget selling it as original now homie
Selling it to my kids? Cause that's the only people in line for it
Quick Question: Why no ported heads? Is there not a lot to be had with ported heads on these Viper motors? I'm not super familiar with these motors.
?? Heads are fully CNC ported
@@SneakySnakes Ah, OK. I somehow missed that! Thanks! Your car has always punched well above its weight, all that average power is only going to be elevated now. Gonna be hilarious how many cars with higher peak power you're gonna be able to take down! Can't wait to see and hear it run in anger!
at 11:07 I can see the CNC finish in the intake ports, but the exhaust ports look stock as I mentioned previously. I have Stryker race heads on my TT Viper and both sides are clearly ported. I wonder why they didn't do the exhaust side on yours, unless it's just an optical illusion?
@@ssoffshore5111 I think it's an illusion of the photo
its a stroked viper engine
i'm asking mid-way through the vid, but did you go with a standard compression ratio or something higher or lower?
Stock compression, 10.5:1, pump gas build. The quench and stack actually made it a hair shy of stock, it was around 10.48:1
@@SneakySnakes I see. I figured it was around stock when you stated pump gas later in the vid. Was there any talks of bumping compression to like 11.5:1 give or take? I'd assume you'd gain a few digits with a 9liter motor and mild compression bump.
@@Themayseffect this is was an engineered and warrantied turn-key package from Prefix and I didn't really care to stray from their very well r&d build just to pick up a few hp. Esp since I have no interest in running anything but pump gas, as the car can find itself on the west coast (again) and in areas where only 91 is available. The only things I upgraded from their base package was valvetrain, but there are the crazies among us who go full send with 13:1 comp and race gas. Those cars make an honest 800whp+
@@SneakySnakes completely understand. Cant ask for much more than a screaming 9l v10. Thanks for the build vlogs. Lots of good info included!
so why is the red line so low? build that thing, let it rev
It’s 9 liter motor bro you know how big those pistons are lol plus it’s a pushrod. It’s a torquey engine
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You should rev that thing out to a minimum of 7000 rpm, it's just peaking at 6400, shifting it around 7000-7200 would make it a lot faster.
Love the build. NA engines are just he best!
Ever consider some nitrous? You can have the driveability you want with another 100-300hp on tap for those pesky 1000rwhp coyotes 😆
Idk, 800-850ish whp n/a 9.0L with no lag and 400 less pounds than a mustang, might be pretty close.
8oo whp n/a big displacement will beat 900-1000whp boost all day and every more in the heat
SpeedLife301 depends on altitude and static compression ratio too.
@@speedlife301 But it dynoed at 800 at the crank, so probably closer to 700 to the wheels.
SS OFFSHORE with the stroker kit he’s in the process of installing right now?
"my new motor on engine dyno" is a hilarious sentence. If you call it a motor, its a motor dyno, if its an engine dyno, you put engines in it.
Does this bother you ?
Hell yes a 1,000 crank horsepower 9.0 viper is my dream track car.
Samson Reynolds You’re going to have to go forced induction or nitrous if you want a 1000hp motor. You’d never get that kind of power out of an N/A motor, especially not a 9.0L.
ORL Mitch ruclips.net/video/kvr0mw_ckEU/видео.html
ORL Mitch calvo sells basic 9.0 kits that make 800whp without a lot of compression or super trick modifications for induction or oiling. It could be done with high compression, dry sump, maybe itb’s or custom sheet metal intake, and a lot of tuning can definitely add more to that.
Samson Reynolds That’s 900bhp, or about 750-765whp, which is close to what Sneaky’s Gen V makes. Nobody has made a Gen V push out those kinds of numbers NA yet, but I’m sure with race gas and a shit ton of money (or nitrous) it could be possible. But 9.0L is about the most displacement you’re going to get out of the Viper block, so it’s going to take a lot of effort to get there.
Samson Reynolds It might be possible, but I think there’s probably a reason why neither Calvo or NthMoto have done anything like that. I’m no expert, but I would guess that it’s either way too expensive to even look at trying or it’s not possible. I think you’re best bet would be to go with a 9.0L striker package that makes about 800 wheel on race gas and then add maybe a 75 or 100 shot of nitrous.
Can you make actual videos and voice over em ? Or you can’t ?
He isn't doing the work himself he is paying a shop to do it . And they take pics of the progress
Please give us updates on the car lounge. We miss your threads especially you cleaning various parts of your car.
Hmmm, thanks for the reminder. I will get off my lazy butt and update that thread
Very cool and detailed video, I really enjoyed the info👍🐍👍
Awesome video! Looking forward Tp the install.
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