Tim seely handled the they/thems perfectly. no fear, no anger. nothing for them to glom on to for fake outrage. it seemed to work. maybe more people should go beige mode when being set up for cancelation on social media.
The difference between the Divorced Dentists and the They/Thems? The Divorced Dentists pay for the comics they read but are too busy to spend all their time on social media causing problems. The They/Thems pirate their comics and are more trouble than they're worth.
If anything the idea of Rogue ripping her suit on purpose can be linked to her personality and power set, teasing people with a bit of eye candy, while knowing that touching her could potentially be fatal.
@@bradleysmit1842 Also knowing her powers were CANCELLED (even the Ms Marvel ones which is beside the point). She's finally able to express herself without risking other people. Really inclusive if you think about it.
@@bradleysmit1842 I disagree. It TEMPORARILY takes away a defining trait, but just to highlight how important that characteristic IS. Claremont was ALL ABOUT THIS towards the end of his run. Wolverine's long recovery from his crucifiction, Storm becoming de-powered and then a child, Colossus a pacifist artist. Rogue got a similar treatment. Its important to her character and so is the romance.
@@SuperSaiyanGuyver If you're talking about the run Zack mentions in the video, I wasn't referring to it, I thought Marvel in the 616 has done away with that power flaw, unless they haven't.
Origins comic the Wolverine over a century old now. Twilight is less creepy visually, but also creepy when you consider he's an ancient man experience wise with a teen girl.
I was quite unimpressed Disney brushed the real explanation how Rogue and Magneto were able to get physically close together in X-Men'97. Heck, they got close enough to have a son together in the Age of Apocalypse timeline due to Rogue absorbing Polaris's powers!
Lord forbid a fuckin HOLOCAUST survivor whose entire family was exterminated have a connection with someone else that dealt with trauma. He's not Roman Polanski.Magneto seems the type to be attracted to strong individuals who have endured despite past traumas, the fact Rogue is also hot is just a plus
I think this as been the Degradation Age or maybe just the Ugly Age. The only reason they injected gayness into everything was because they thought it was transgressive-- that it would repulse the audience and drive them off. Everything from She-Hulk's "I want to be ugly" to "Captain America is actually a Nazi" to the endless parade of fat, ugly characters has been about degradation.
Has Marvel ever dealt with Magneto's aging problem? Since his origin is tied to an actual historic event, his age becomes a problem the farther away we get from WWII. Does his magnetic power somehow slow his aging like Nick Fury's Infinity Formula?
Yes. After he got depowered post House of M, he went to the High Evolutionary to get his powers back. Whatever the High Evolutionary did also de-aged him and he got his powers back ,or a semblance of them.
I always felt that X Men Evolution did a good job handling that issue. In the show he uses the Super Soldier process that turned Captain America into a super soldier to make himself younger. In that universe the serum has negative side effects on humans but not on mutants so he can use it freely as a result.
I’ve been rereading Uncanny, and I just read issue 185, in which Rogue is explicitly said to be 18. Ninety issues later, she’s got to be at least 21. She also intentionally showed some skin in that issue, when she went swimming in the Mississippi, so I wouldn’t put it past her to do the same in the Savage Land.
I'm not a feminist and many people I know that aren't either are not happy with this run, for different reasons. She's already married to Gambit. Why keep pushing the romance with Magneto that nobody liked and that was quite, erm, "polemic" considering the context created in X-men 97? For what I've read, Gambit fans have been waiting for years for a new Gambit solo (we haven't got once since 2012), and the ones with Rogue are just Rogue solos disguised as "and Gambit" where she's the main protagonist. And yet, Marvel pushes this. If they really want a run with Rogue and romance, why not using her own husband who's also a cool mutant? I'm afraid the reason is that they just don't like Gambit for the same political reasons they are pushing a Rogue solo. So far, Gambit's written quite badly in only TWO numbers of Simone's UXM on behalf of Rogue. I guess she's just not an interesting character unless she's paired with male leads.
Back in the day when I saw that relationship I just thought "good for them". I saw nothing wrong with it, and it makes a lot of sense for two people with traumatic pasts to bond with each other.
I was never fond of the Rogue-Magneto pairing, but THIS reaction is nuts. Rogue was in her early 20s, and I could see how they had things in common. These are people who only know Rogue from the movies and animated series, THAT'S why they think she's a teenager.
I love when dinosaurs are drawn well without looking exactly like a Jurassic Park iteration. Everyone learns to draw people and develop a unique style just from spending so much time doing it. There isn’t as much demand to draw dinosaurs, so when someone develops a cool new style for them, it stands out.
Two steps forward Tim steps back we got together cause opposites attract....and you know🎶 Rogue and Magneto are two VERY damaged people. And in the original Claremont/ Lee stories Rogue is the CONSCIENCE. ERIK is in the wrong because he's about to become a villain again. Anna is BEGGING him at the end to NOT kill Zaladane. SHE is right HE is wrong. This is modern feminism. Claremont wrote great, empowered women 40 years ago. But because they show some skin, they make modern "audiences" on X (formerly Twitter have we mentioned that yet?) uncomfortable. And we all suffer for it.
I'd kind of say the two of them along with Jason Aaron kind of have the same flavor to me. They know how to make a story fun but there's rarely any depth beyond that
Okay for posterity's sake gonna point out the Rogue being 18 thing probably stems from issue #182 (published 1984) where she's having trouble with Carol Danvers taking over. Actual line "I enlisted when I was 18... Ah'm 18 now how can that be?" So almost 100 issues and 5 years before the Savage Land Rogue was 18. However that works in comic book time. Also Magneto was de-aged and re-grown so his physical age is anyone's guess. In case somebody needed that.
I never liked this pairing, but not to this degree of insanity. I never really liked her with Gambit, either, but that's mostly because I never liked Gambit. Rogue is still my favourite Marvel character, but that's because they can't erase the classic comics that made her that. I think the best I've seen her written in recent years was when Jim Zub was writing Uncanny Avengers. That was also just a genuinely solid comic for the most part, from the tail end before Marvel dove nose first deep into the morass of IdPol.
You can tell by his "bleh" responses that even he's getting a little tired of the they/thems, the natural next step is to just ignore them completely. Also everyone loved Savage land Rogue then and they still do now, anyone trying to say otherwise is outing themselves as a know nothing.
At this point I'm going back through Warren Ellis back catalog from the last couple decades...now I need the Planetary ultimate HC... RIP John Cassaday
If you recall, towards the end of Uncanny 274, Rogue was pissed about having to wear the SHIELD uniform & armor after meeting w/ Fury. There’s definitely something to that ‘Naked Rouge’ theory.
Jim Valentino never gets the X-Men in the ‘90s after the Image guys all leave even if he stayed, not at as artist anyways. Not with Adam Kubert, Joe Madureira, Chris Bachalo, John Romita Jr., Greg Capullo, Jae Lee, Joe Quesada, Larry Stroman, Steve Epting, Liam Sharp, Alan Davis, Lee Weeks, and Andy Kubert all at Marvel. I find it kind of odd that there seem to be people at Marvel (and from the sound of it some people that weren’t even at Marvel when it happened) that are still pissed off about the Image guys leaving, because it’s not like it was a bad thing for Marvel. Outside of Spawn sometime being the best selling comic of any given month, the X-Men titles were still largely on top, and the artist that replaced the Image guys were largely all better. Marvel was easily able to replace all the Image guys with new hot artist.
Not only do modern writers, writers who only write, not matter, I’m not even sure why Marvel and DC think they need them. Almost none of the writers they can get still are even names. If it was me, I’d just get some artist and let them write their own stuff. It’s not like it’s going to be worse than what most modern writers do anyways, and even if it’s bad it’ll probably be a hell of a lot more dynamic then when comic writers now have characters just sitting around doing nothing for pages on end. Like if I was rebooting X-Men like Marvel just recently did, I’d be going to guys like Daniel Warren Johnson and asking them if they wanted to write and draw the X-Men. Here’s the X-Men, do whatever you want. To me it’s nuts Daniel Warren Johnson hasn’t had X-Men (or Star Wars) at all. Daniel Warren Johnson, the 2012 Prophet guys (Brandon Graham, Simon Roy, Giannis Milonogiannis), Adam Kubert, Chris Bachalo; these are all artist that could be writing their own stuff. Like to me it’s fucking insane Alex Ross came to Marvel with a pitch for a Fantastic Four title he’d do for them and he got turned down for Dan Slott’s Fantastic Four. It’s insane that Marvel gets guys like Tradd Moore and Kaare Andrews and then they just kind of don’t even promote their stuff. In the ‘90s Kaare Andrews, Tradd Moore, Daniel Warren Johnson, Giannis Milonogiannis, and Filipe Andrade would’ve all been doing X-Men titles; in today’s Marvel they’re barely used and then it seems like they just drift off. Marvel now gets someone like Tradd Moore doing Doctor Strange and Marvel Comics isn’t even treated it like the main “import” Doctor Strange title; and lot of comic fans have this weird thing where if the title isn’t seen as “import” they just aren’t getting it. This isn’t to say there aren’t any good writers working now, but as things are at the moment, you’d probably get more interesting comics out of Marvel and DC if they just let the artist write their own stuff. Even if they turned out bad...I’ll take a badly written art driven comic over a badly written writer driven comic where characters just sit and eat any day of the week.
Magneto x Rogue needs to be removed from canon, but harlivy is just fine despite the fact that the ship only exists so comic writers can have an excuse to write lesbian p**n. Lookin' at you, Tee Franklin.
Two of those covers are simple Contrapposto - a pose used in art for at least least 2.4k year, them Greeks really knew how to chisel marble. The one with the trex is just 'background leg lifted to accentuate the butt' which is very common on instagram. So we're wasting time on people getting angry on outfits that cover up more than an average day at the beach.
One aspect about this that I find interesting is that Tim Seeley is a sex positive feminist while the people complaining about him seem to be sex negative feminists. So, it's like two factions going against one another. I honestly hope the sex positive ones win out. I'm tired of the prudishness in "nerd culture" nowadays.
For all these weirdos voicing their disdain, if this was what you were thinking about at the age of 13 about the Rogue and Magneto hookup, you have serious problems.
The only Donny Cates book that was of interest to me was Atomahawk from Image Comics. Everything I read from him at Marvel showed he had a very limited in terms of writing style. They all had the same premise. On Rogue being twenty? You can tell these people never read anything prior because Rogue, Storm and Psylocke all came off as mid to late 30’s. Just because Jim Lee drew her young and hot people get up in arms about it. And why is every writer describing themselves as a feminist hex witch practitioner?! Everyone wants to be Grant Morrison and Alan Moore, but come off as posers. The gay era? Yeah I am ok with that. The Letter People era? The Cucked Era? The Twit Era? 😅😅😅 Enjoyed the commentary.
If they are giving the comic crap now, wait until they see the artist, Zulema Scotto Lavina. She's a great artist, and she's also beautiful, and she's straight. They''ll try and cancel her and/ or possibly make her the next Ed Piskor.
I don't think the rogue and magneto thing is as bad as they think. It would be worse if it was professor x and her. God, now I'm getting vietnam flashbacks of the "batgirl/batman rooftop scene".
Old fans can go back and read decades of all good old stuff and old fans can recommend decades of good old stuff to new fans. The fans are the trend setters right? Not the Rich Johnston types.
Tim Seeley is a very competent writer that is very good at keeping heroes in character. I've read through his Nightwing run and while I did have complaints that was the last time Dick Greyson felt like Dick Greyson to me. If he is given a great artist, he might easily outperform big names like Snyder and King imo. I think he is a step in the right direction and hope that they keep him in the X line.
The reaction I saw to this was almost entirely driven by the Rogueneto distaste, which is just driven by people's fear of Marvel's hatred of stable healthy relationships (see: Amazing Spider-Man). This was only fueled by Rich's misleading headline. Once Seely started saying this wasn't actually about them, people were basically fine.
You can't please some people at all and those people are speaking up on social media. IMO Tim Seeley did a good job with Vault's Vampire: The Masquerade.
I love the Savage Land Rogue but they lost me with Tim Seeley writing it. His Nightwing comics were completely horrible and made me avoid anything that he wrote afterwards.
I often visit an alternate reality where the Image dudes get the DC British writers to leave with them. Also, I can't be the only Jim Valentino fan? GG? What If?
Hear me out: Magneto have the Captain America problem, their origins are tied to real historical events so they get progresovely older to us, in real time. So having Rogue and Magneto have "a thing" is ... Well, not so pleasant and also we are talking about a murderous hypocritical menace and a beloves reformed heroine.
I also enjoy looking at attractive women, but they would have to be DAMN hot for me to make it through 2+ hours of a dogshit movie. Just speaking generally here - I can't judge The Eternals because I haven't seen it. Gemma Chan is very pretty though.
rogue in that torn savage land outfit....yeah rogue was in hertwenties in 81 when she was making out with captain America and stealing other avengers powers if you can look at that picture of her from what was it annual 10 ? and see a teenager I'm lost...well wait it was the 80s ....so maybe
in Mike Carey's X-men run Magneto and Rogue were dating. The teenager-thing and that she was 18 I heard it from a youtube channel where the girl was freaking out about that storyline from X-Men 97. I think it's because she's a huge fan of X-Men Evolution where Rogue IS a teenager. they're mixing everything up
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Tim seely handled the they/thems perfectly. no fear, no anger. nothing for them to glom on to for fake outrage. it seemed to work. maybe more people should go beige mode when being set up for cancelation on social media.
@@warewuffdupree Or just ignore them. They have no real power.
The difference between the Divorced Dentists and the They/Thems? The Divorced Dentists pay for the comics they read but are too busy to spend all their time on social media causing problems. The They/Thems pirate their comics and are more trouble than they're worth.
They're confusing Rogue with her cinematic counterpart, who was aged down by Brian Singer. Because he likes male beauty.
100000%!
If anything the idea of Rogue ripping her suit on purpose can be linked to her personality and power set, teasing people with a bit of eye candy, while knowing that touching her could potentially be fatal.
@@bradleysmit1842 Also knowing her powers were CANCELLED (even the Ms Marvel ones which is beside the point). She's finally able to express herself without risking other people. Really inclusive if you think about it.
@@SuperSaiyanGuyver That's true, but it also takes away something that was very unique to her as a character.
@@bradleysmit1842 I disagree. It TEMPORARILY takes away a defining trait, but just to highlight how important that characteristic IS. Claremont was ALL ABOUT THIS towards the end of his run. Wolverine's long recovery from his crucifiction, Storm becoming de-powered and then a child, Colossus a pacifist artist. Rogue got a similar treatment. Its important to her character and so is the romance.
@@SuperSaiyanGuyver If you're talking about the run Zack mentions in the video, I wasn't referring to it, I thought Marvel in the 616 has done away with that power flaw, unless they haven't.
@@bradleysmit1842 If its the same run Zach mentions, that's the one. Rogue loses ALL her powers for that couple issues but the point remains.
I love that "fan service" is a bad thing now.
It's 2024, everything is considered bad now.
Unless it's involving male characters. Then it's OK, apparently
Wolverine is older then them all do they complain when he is with someone.
They certainly didn't complain about the age gap in that one comic where Wolverine and Cyclops were smashing. Funny that, huh?
Origins comic the Wolverine over a century old now. Twilight is less creepy visually, but also creepy when you consider he's an ancient man experience wise with a teen girl.
I was quite unimpressed Disney brushed the real explanation how Rogue and Magneto were able to get physically close together in X-Men'97.
Heck, they got close enough to have a son together in the Age of Apocalypse timeline due to Rogue absorbing Polaris's powers!
The idea is Magneto can negate her powers. Came up when he was "Joseph" too.
Lord forbid a fuckin HOLOCAUST survivor whose entire family was exterminated have a connection with someone else that dealt with trauma. He's not Roman Polanski.Magneto seems the type to be attracted to strong individuals who have endured despite past traumas, the fact Rogue is also hot is just a plus
I think this as been the Degradation Age or maybe just the Ugly Age. The only reason they injected gayness into everything was because they thought it was transgressive-- that it would repulse the audience and drive them off. Everything from She-Hulk's "I want to be ugly" to "Captain America is actually a Nazi" to the endless parade of fat, ugly characters has been about degradation.
The word is demoralization. It's their number one trick. Convince society that existence isn't worthwhile, then seize power.
Still waiting for that Emily in Paris side channel.
Has Marvel ever dealt with Magneto's aging problem? Since his origin is tied to an actual historic event, his age becomes a problem the farther away we get from WWII. Does his magnetic power somehow slow his aging like Nick Fury's Infinity Formula?
Yes. After he got depowered post House of M, he went to the High Evolutionary to get his powers back. Whatever the High Evolutionary did also de-aged him and he got his powers back ,or a semblance of them.
@@arcanask Ah, thanks. :}
I always felt that X Men Evolution did a good job handling that issue. In the show he uses the Super Soldier process that turned Captain America into a super soldier to make himself younger. In that universe the serum has negative side effects on humans but not on mutants so he can use it freely as a result.
Wasn't he at one point turned into a baby?
I’ve been rereading Uncanny, and I just read issue 185, in which Rogue is explicitly said to be 18. Ninety issues later, she’s got to be at least 21.
She also intentionally showed some skin in that issue, when she went swimming in the Mississippi, so I wouldn’t put it past her to do the same in the Savage Land.
If I had to choose between the two, I’d rather be friends with Tim Seeley than the SJW assholes.
I always remember AoA being a huge deal that most people really enjoyed.
Though at least Tim is smart enough to try to shill as people attack him lol
I'm not a feminist and many people I know that aren't either are not happy with this run, for different reasons.
She's already married to Gambit. Why keep pushing the romance with Magneto that nobody liked and that was quite, erm, "polemic" considering the context created in X-men 97? For what I've read, Gambit fans have been waiting for years for a new Gambit solo (we haven't got once since 2012), and the ones with Rogue are just Rogue solos disguised as "and Gambit" where she's the main protagonist. And yet, Marvel pushes this. If they really want a run with Rogue and romance, why not using her own husband who's also a cool mutant? I'm afraid the reason is that they just don't like Gambit for the same political reasons they are pushing a Rogue solo. So far, Gambit's written quite badly in only TWO numbers of Simone's UXM on behalf of Rogue. I guess she's just not an interesting character unless she's paired with male leads.
Back in the day when I saw that relationship I just thought "good for them".
I saw nothing wrong with it, and it makes a lot of sense for two people with traumatic pasts to bond with each other.
I was never fond of the Rogue-Magneto pairing, but THIS reaction is nuts. Rogue was in her early 20s, and I could see how they had things in common.
These are people who only know Rogue from the movies and animated series, THAT'S why they think she's a teenager.
Ohh. You mean X-men Evolution right? Yeah. In the OG series she was a grown ass woman.
Guess we still got people carrying that "pretty women bad" torch. Even the comics are starting to move away from that now
Beauty Bigots.
🤘🏿I hope you’re having a great day, Zack!🤘🏿
All the people complaining bout Rouge-Magneto ship r fine wit drag story time and Steven Universe.
Bring back the Marvel swimsuit edition
Nobody objected back in the 90’s.
Really? That book was shunned for decades? I still see fan art of it.
By the way, I could see Magneto redeeming himself and becoming a hero. NOT a superhero, more like Nick Fury with magnetic powers.
It kinda feels like that's what krakoa era was trying to do before Hickman left and the story just started to spin its wheels
I love when dinosaurs are drawn well without looking exactly like a Jurassic Park iteration. Everyone learns to draw people and develop a unique style just from spending so much time doing it. There isn’t as much demand to draw dinosaurs, so when someone develops a cool new style for them, it stands out.
Two steps forward Tim steps back we got together cause opposites attract....and you know🎶
Rogue and Magneto are two VERY damaged people. And in the original Claremont/ Lee stories Rogue is the CONSCIENCE. ERIK is in the wrong because he's about to become a villain again. Anna is BEGGING him at the end to NOT kill Zaladane. SHE is right HE is wrong.
This is modern feminism. Claremont wrote great, empowered women 40 years ago. But because they show some skin, they make modern "audiences" on X (formerly Twitter have we mentioned that yet?) uncomfortable. And we all suffer for it.
Oh, so this is a .... checks title.... Tim Seely reaction channel now? lol
Donny cates and Scott Snyder are the same type of boring writer to me .
The only thing by Donny Cates I've ever read (that I know of) is Cosmic Ghost Rider.
Edit: And some of his venom series.
I'd kind of say the two of them along with Jason Aaron kind of have the same flavor to me. They know how to make a story fun but there's rarely any depth beyond that
Magneto was also de aged. Turned into a baby and then aged back up but not to his actual age.
Rogue's 1st 3 appearances she easily looked in her early 30's at least.
Okay for posterity's sake gonna point out the Rogue being 18 thing probably stems from issue #182 (published 1984) where she's having trouble with Carol Danvers taking over.
Actual line "I enlisted when I was 18... Ah'm 18 now how can that be?" So almost 100 issues and 5 years before the Savage Land Rogue was 18. However that works in comic book time. Also Magneto was de-aged and re-grown so his physical age is anyone's guess.
In case somebody needed that.
I never liked this pairing, but not to this degree of insanity. I never really liked her with Gambit, either, but that's mostly because I never liked Gambit. Rogue is still my favourite Marvel character, but that's because they can't erase the classic comics that made her that. I think the best I've seen her written in recent years was when Jim Zub was writing Uncanny Avengers. That was also just a genuinely solid comic for the most part, from the tail end before Marvel dove nose first deep into the morass of IdPol.
You can tell by his "bleh" responses that even he's getting a little tired of the they/thems, the natural next step is to just ignore them completely. Also everyone loved Savage land Rogue then and they still do now, anyone trying to say otherwise is outing themselves as a know nothing.
At this point I'm going back through Warren Ellis back catalog from the last couple decades...now I need the Planetary ultimate HC... RIP John Cassaday
hahahah. I just bought the replica of Uncanny X-Men 274 they released last week. Thank you woke weirdos for upping its value.
If Rogue didn't rip her own costume, intentionally... _SOMEONE_ did.
Presumably she paid for alterations down at the Savage Land tailor shop.
Ugh......I hate when Cancel Pigs pretend that they're also paying customers.
WWE did the same thing as Marvel where no one was above the brand itself.
Gambit: "You dated that old dude? Gross!"
Not a fan of Rouge/Magneto.
But I am a self admitted Gambit fan.
If you recall, towards the end of Uncanny 274, Rogue was pissed about having to wear the SHIELD uniform & armor after meeting w/ Fury. There’s definitely something to that ‘Naked Rouge’ theory.
Jim Valentino never gets the X-Men in the ‘90s after the Image guys all leave even if he stayed, not at as artist anyways. Not with Adam Kubert, Joe Madureira, Chris Bachalo, John Romita Jr., Greg Capullo, Jae Lee, Joe Quesada, Larry Stroman, Steve Epting, Liam Sharp, Alan Davis, Lee Weeks, and Andy Kubert all at Marvel. I find it kind of odd that there seem to be people at Marvel (and from the sound of it some people that weren’t even at Marvel when it happened) that are still pissed off about the Image guys leaving, because it’s not like it was a bad thing for Marvel. Outside of Spawn sometime being the best selling comic of any given month, the X-Men titles were still largely on top, and the artist that replaced the Image guys were largely all better. Marvel was easily able to replace all the Image guys with new hot artist.
Not only do modern writers, writers who only write, not matter, I’m not even sure why Marvel and DC think they need them. Almost none of the writers they can get still are even names. If it was me, I’d just get some artist and let them write their own stuff. It’s not like it’s going to be worse than what most modern writers do anyways, and even if it’s bad it’ll probably be a hell of a lot more dynamic then when comic writers now have characters just sitting around doing nothing for pages on end.
Like if I was rebooting X-Men like Marvel just recently did, I’d be going to guys like Daniel Warren Johnson and asking them if they wanted to write and draw the X-Men. Here’s the X-Men, do whatever you want. To me it’s nuts Daniel Warren Johnson hasn’t had X-Men (or Star Wars) at all. Daniel Warren Johnson, the 2012 Prophet guys (Brandon Graham, Simon Roy, Giannis Milonogiannis), Adam Kubert, Chris Bachalo; these are all artist that could be writing their own stuff. Like to me it’s fucking insane Alex Ross came to Marvel with a pitch for a Fantastic Four title he’d do for them and he got turned down for Dan Slott’s Fantastic Four. It’s insane that Marvel gets guys like Tradd Moore and Kaare Andrews and then they just kind of don’t even promote their stuff. In the ‘90s Kaare Andrews, Tradd Moore, Daniel Warren Johnson, Giannis Milonogiannis, and Filipe Andrade would’ve all been doing X-Men titles; in today’s Marvel they’re barely used and then it seems like they just drift off. Marvel now gets someone like Tradd Moore doing Doctor Strange and Marvel Comics isn’t even treated it like the main “import” Doctor Strange title; and lot of comic fans have this weird thing where if the title isn’t seen as “import” they just aren’t getting it.
This isn’t to say there aren’t any good writers working now, but as things are at the moment, you’d probably get more interesting comics out of Marvel and DC if they just let the artist write their own stuff. Even if they turned out bad...I’ll take a badly written art driven comic over a badly written writer driven comic where characters just sit and eat any day of the week.
I don't know what "gold filamead?" is, but where else is it going to be referenced?
Magneto x Rogue needs to be removed from canon, but harlivy is just fine despite the fact that the ship only exists so comic writers can have an excuse to write lesbian p**n.
Lookin' at you, Tee Franklin.
Two of those covers are simple Contrapposto - a pose used in art for at least least 2.4k year, them Greeks really knew how to chisel marble. The one with the trex is just 'background leg lifted to accentuate the butt' which is very common on instagram. So we're wasting time on people getting angry on outfits that cover up more than an average day at the beach.
One aspect about this that I find interesting is that Tim Seeley is a sex positive feminist while the people complaining about him seem to be sex negative feminists. So, it's like two factions going against one another. I honestly hope the sex positive ones win out. I'm tired of the prudishness in "nerd culture" nowadays.
Tío Zack, go to see Transformers One. There are 2 post credit scenes. The movie is amazing. Roll out!
ah man I always hated that story line because Gambit is my favorite man.... Got no issue with anything else though! lol
For all these weirdos voicing their disdain, if this was what you were thinking about at the age of 13 about the Rogue and Magneto hookup, you have serious problems.
The only Donny Cates book that was of interest to me was Atomahawk from Image Comics. Everything I read from him at Marvel showed he had a very limited in terms of writing style. They all had the same premise.
On Rogue being twenty? You can tell these people never read anything prior because Rogue, Storm and Psylocke all came off as mid to late 30’s.
Just because Jim Lee drew her young and hot people get up in arms about it.
And why is every writer describing themselves as a feminist hex witch practitioner?!
Everyone wants to be Grant Morrison and Alan Moore, but come off as posers.
The gay era? Yeah I am ok with that. The Letter People era? The Cucked Era? The Twit Era? 😅😅😅
Enjoyed the commentary.
If they are giving the comic crap now, wait until they see the artist, Zulema Scotto Lavina. She's a great artist, and she's also beautiful, and she's straight. They''ll try and cancel her and/ or possibly make her the next Ed Piskor.
I don't think the rogue and magneto thing is as bad as they think. It would be worse if it was professor x and her. God, now I'm getting vietnam flashbacks of the "batgirl/batman rooftop scene".
Old fans can go back and read decades of all good old stuff and old fans can recommend decades of good old stuff to new fans. The fans are the trend setters right? Not the Rich Johnston types.
i will 100% buy a rogue comic in savage land...also in little clothes
Tim Seeley is a very competent writer that is very good at keeping heroes in character.
I've read through his Nightwing run and while I did have complaints that was the last time Dick Greyson felt like Dick Greyson to me.
If he is given a great artist, he might easily outperform big names like Snyder and King imo.
I think he is a step in the right direction and hope that they keep him in the X line.
Someone needs to make a popular comic that aims to piss off the wokes. It would sell out completely
The reaction I saw to this was almost entirely driven by the Rogueneto distaste, which is just driven by people's fear of Marvel's hatred of stable healthy relationships (see: Amazing Spider-Man). This was only fueled by Rich's misleading headline. Once Seely started saying this wasn't actually about them, people were basically fine.
You can't please some people at all and those people are speaking up on social media. IMO Tim Seeley did a good job with Vault's Vampire: The Masquerade.
I love the Savage Land Rogue but they lost me with Tim Seeley writing it. His Nightwing comics were completely horrible and made me avoid anything that he wrote afterwards.
I often visit an alternate reality where the Image dudes get the DC British writers to leave with them. Also, I can't be the only Jim Valentino fan? GG? What If?
I think perhaps the circumstances around their departures might have something to do with peoples’ interest or lack there of.
Hear me out: Magneto have the Captain America problem, their origins are tied to real historical events so they get progresovely older to us, in real time. So having Rogue and Magneto have "a thing" is ... Well, not so pleasant and also we are talking about a murderous hypocritical menace and a beloves reformed heroine.
What does it say about the comic book industry as a whole when they get a GOOD artist for the cover other than the interior artist??
I also enjoy looking at attractive women, but they would have to be DAMN hot for me to make it through 2+ hours of a dogshit movie. Just speaking generally here - I can't judge The Eternals because I haven't seen it. Gemma Chan is very pretty though.
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rogue in that torn savage land outfit....yeah rogue was in hertwenties in 81 when she was making out with captain America and stealing other avengers powers if you can look at that picture of her from what was it annual 10 ? and see a teenager I'm lost...well wait it was the 80s ....so maybe
it also would suggest the avengers were depicted as beating a child
Donny who?
in Mike Carey's X-men run Magneto and Rogue were dating. The teenager-thing and that she was 18 I heard it from a youtube channel where the girl was freaking out about that storyline from X-Men 97. I think it's because she's a huge fan of X-Men Evolution where Rogue IS a teenager. they're mixing everything up
Meh. Much ado about nothing