I Played Without Aim Assist for 7 Days (Apex Legends)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @xJustJoeyx
    @xJustJoeyx Год назад +57

    "If it was so easy, everyone would do it."
    They are. In every game that has AA.

    • @GaaraFPS
      @GaaraFPS Год назад +8

      It’s so easy and everyone is doing it…

    • @priyadarsihalder9242
      @priyadarsihalder9242 7 месяцев назад +1

      Well yeah everyone is doing it. I am doing best of both world. Keyboard and mouse for movement then switch to controller for that aim hack. Before I used to get 5 to 6 kills a match with only mouse and keyboard. Now I sometime get 20 kills. Well now I won't go back.

  • @pyrusmasterdan1
    @pyrusmasterdan1 Год назад +39

    I love it. Missing shots like you’re supposed to be. Raw aim

    • @nikobello8918
      @nikobello8918 Год назад

      U dumb bro? Console players cant do "flicks" like on mouse

    • @StruckbyPuncakes
      @StruckbyPuncakes Год назад +4

      I actually turned off aim assist today after not playing for a month. It sucked at first but then I adapted and it’s actually not bad to feel your exact inputs. Just wish we, console and controller could tap strafe if we turn off aim assist

    • @pyrusmasterdan1
      @pyrusmasterdan1 Год назад

      @@StruckbyPuncakesa fair trade off in my opinion. i’m more than okay with that

    • @justthere845
      @justthere845 Год назад

      ​@@nikobello8918playstation and Nintendo players actually can flick in certain games.

    • @Honest_Slowpoke
      @Honest_Slowpoke 10 месяцев назад +3

      its sad how bad u guys are, fantasizing over controller missing shots screams im not good

  • @TobaccoStrongBoy
    @TobaccoStrongBoy Год назад +85

    how can one say that aim assist is not op when the motto is: "don't do much, let it pull for you"?

    • @Juicygamingnews
      @Juicygamingnews Год назад +12

      its kine that said this right? if it is, he litterally told mande if they didn't have aim assist he would get 30-0 destroyed by some mnk pros, but aim assist isn't strong lol.

    • @chaos6329
      @chaos6329 8 месяцев назад

      He said that because mnk is better for aiming than some sticks. It's a thumb compared to an arm which is why aim assist is a thing in the first place.​@@Juicygamingnews

    • @Juicygamingnews
      @Juicygamingnews 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@chaos6329 so people get coding to aim for them for an attempt at artificial equality? if you cant hang with raw skill go to the minor leagues. hes booting great raw aim players and skill players that could have his spot if coding wasn't aiming for him. he said if aim assist didn't exist he would be applying for a job at a gas station in that same clip and people with better raw skills than him get to apply to that gas station now instead because of the aiming software he gets. i feel for the people with true skill they should get his spot.

    • @scottthesmartape9151
      @scottthesmartape9151 6 месяцев назад

      @@Juicygamingnewsagainst pros no but against your average pc player yes

    • @Lynxee3004
      @Lynxee3004 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Juicygamingnews while you do bring up a great point, you are drastically misunderstanding how aim assist works. Yes, it pulls for you, but that also comes with drawbacks. Say if you're in a room with multiple people, then aim assist is going to fuck you over just as much as it helps. When you keep dipping in and out of 3m range, it keeps turning on and off. If you're at medium range (25m) that is where it helps the most with tracking and whatnot.
      I've turned off aim assist, and I've noticed my shots don't feel like they're being interfered with, and my movement as well. It definitely takes a lot to get used to, but it's highly rewarding. I've played both inputs and I can definitely say that MnK is easier to get used to in the aiming department.

  • @g_hutchey
    @g_hutchey Год назад +17

    The production in this video is immaculate! love ur work man. keep this up and you'll be full time in no time

  • @D4LL4S214
    @D4LL4S214 Год назад +4

    That’s all I play on any game that has the option to turn off enemy tracking I’ve gotten decent but man does it get annoying when people with aim assist beam tf outta you

  • @bobaktxl06
    @bobaktxl06 15 дней назад

    8:26, is what I've been telling people nonstop about AA on controllers. I went from an xbox kiddie to MKB and when people asked me in the past how to "aim better" I always just say aim with your movement stick rather than the right stick. It's the most underrated form of aiming for controllers.

  • @RoboJut
    @RoboJut 4 месяца назад +2

    I play Overwatch 2 with a controller on PC, there is no aim assist.
    I am currently Masters 2 in open queue, and Diamond 4 on DPS. I play all heros.
    The best way to get good on no aim assist is trying to setup your sensitivity to be as low as possible while still maintaining good movement to keep your accuracy as high as possible, and also trying to keep your acceleration as linear as possible while keeping micro movements slow enough to hit long range shots.

    • @ChouChouFish
      @ChouChouFish 2 месяца назад

      What are your settings

    • @RoboJut
      @RoboJut 2 месяца назад

      @ChouChouFish On overwatch 2, I was running 40-40 sens with 0 aim smoothing and 0 aim ease in on linear ramp. I have 0.02 deadzone (lowest i can go without stick drift) and I play with a short skull & co analog stick rubber cap on left stick and a tall one on right stick.
      Not exactly positive what that equates to in Apex tho. But I run that with all heros without any issues. Took a bit of time to get used to linear but it was completely worth it.
      I mainly play with trackballs now though. Im using a kensington orbit wireless but I ordered a Xkeys Ltrac recently as an upgrade. Sometimes swap back to controller depending on mood/situation lol

    • @theblurredgamer9617
      @theblurredgamer9617 27 дней назад +1

      You are a life saver. I recently turned off aim assist for all games, and there are no videos that give you tips on this. Your comment is so helpful. 🔥👌🏾

    • @RoboJut
      @RoboJut 27 дней назад +1

      @@theblurredgamer9617 Np. I can honestly keep up pretty well with kbm now after playing a while with it. I also noticed there are no youtubers who cover no AA much, so Im planning on doing some videos on it soon. Just havent gotten around to it yet.

    • @theblurredgamer9617
      @theblurredgamer9617 26 дней назад +1

      @RoboJut You really should. You'd help so many people who want to try this out for a change.

  • @orionizaqt
    @orionizaqt Год назад +3

    Truth is that if good controller players didn't need aim assist, they'd play on MnK. It's just better, but aim assist keeps good players using controllers. That's not to say that good controller players wouldn't still be good without aim assist, they clearly would still be good, but without aim assist, they'd be better off using MnK and that's not an argument anyone can win. That's just how it is. I don't actually want aim assist turned off as an MnK player, just tuned down a bit. Going down to .3 from .4 sounds about right to me, that and removing or turning down things like aim punch and sway that more negatively impact MnK players than controller players. Aim assist also can track through certain visual clutter like thermite grenades for example, so it could also help if they could turn it off when a player has that clutter blocking their view, since it's a huge advantage for controller players to have aim assist track through that clutter. Overall, I think just a bit a of tuning would really help to bring things in line and make for the most fair and balanced experience for everyone. I'd actually also be totally cool with removing a bit of movement tech that's exclusive to MnK to make things more fair as well, or even better, just letting controller players be able to do the same movement. Anyway, no disrespect to controller players, I just want the game to be fair and fun for the most people possible.

  • @itszaque
    @itszaque Год назад +11

    Honestly this makes me want aim assist nerfed even more, you just showed that aim assist isn’t necessary for controllers to keep up/dominate mnk, so why shouldn’t it get adjusted?
    Lol I mostly kid, but still I gotta say this is a great video. It sounds like the devs are starting to acknowledge that the game is leaning towards controller dominance, so acknowledging that aim assist doesn’t make/break a players skill on the input is super relevant.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +5

      they said they're taking a look at it, i don't think they'll nerf it, if anything they'll nerf what they like and that's SMGs, but i don't think they'll remove it comepletely and if they do i'd just go back to MnK cause there is no reason to use roller withouth it's benefits. I'll say this tho, majority of people who complain about aim assist in Apex haven't experienced aim assist in cod, now THAT it's actually broken, every pro knows it and they're not afraid to admit that that's why they're using it.

    • @qtsuneudon123
      @qtsuneudon123 Год назад +5

      i agree with COD aa being broken in comparison to apex.
      that said COD has such a different system in regards to pro-play though, since in COD official competitive ruleset (not ranked or warzone) /every/ pro is input locked to controller ONLY. so even if the AA is broken in a way it's still "balanced" because there are no uneven level playing field vs mnk like in apex, everyone always has the same set of advantages and disadvantages consistently to their disposal.

    • @Spiriton10-zi9tr
      @Spiriton10-zi9tr Год назад

      I agree with you but the problem is that there’s people who are making macro for controller players to give mnk movement. But if we don’t talk about that it isn’t too unfair compared.

    • @Astelch
      @Astelch Год назад

      AA wouldnt be so broken if TTK in this game would be fast. Like 175 shield for red armor. Longer the TTK the better AA will be.

    • @rb9951
      @rb9951 Год назад

      @@itsroguely lol
      >not so bad
      My dude had to pick the most extreme example to say it could be worse, kek.
      4-3 linear 4-4 classic is an aimbot. It's not long range aim bot but it is for close:mid. Which hey, majority of fights in the game. Wdyk.
      I've played gm-top 100 on console and pc for over a decade. Done thousands of hrs on both inputs. You really are cappin if you think the AA in general hasnt gotten stronger over time. AA's problem is sheer consistency on said distances. If you have 95% accuracy, at all times, for most ranges where it matters, then there really is nothing else to say. You dont need to worry about recoil punch, visual clutter, detacting from track target, real hard readjusting, etc. Only mechanic you need to consider is recoil control. That's it.
      When you dont have AA on, suddenly, you lose consistency. Which is the biggest problem with AA existing in the first place. But it's not a big deal, right? So why are you so hardstuck on dickriding it if you know you can handle without? Is it maybe for the fact that maybe consistency is really powerful in general and that lil voice in your head knows you are full of shit saying you're fine without?

  • @zerocore_
    @zerocore_ Год назад +4

    If only Xbox also had a gyro like PS5. Respawn could implement native gyro input as a replacement for AA and call it a day.

  • @hyperblox77
    @hyperblox77 4 месяца назад +1

    I thought he was gonna ask extessy he definitely has more experience without aim assist so he’s the better coach for controller

  • @sed46
    @sed46 Год назад +12

    What happened when you turned aim assist back on afterwards? I feel like that is an important piece of info as well. Would doing this improve overall skill with aim assist back on or is it just improving your no AA skill?

    • @IxhazeGT
      @IxhazeGT Год назад

      100% I turn aa off when i warm up! Try it out

    • @jeremyariche4332
      @jeremyariche4332 Год назад +1

      It improves overall thumb control when playing without aim assist. But it won't lead to you becoming a controller demon

    • @Ready2win-l7q
      @Ready2win-l7q Год назад

      @@jeremyariche4332what if you turn it off like he did then after a week or two of consistent playing won’t you get massively better. ?

    • @jeremyariche4332
      @jeremyariche4332 Год назад

      @@Ready2win-l7q the point of controller is to figure out how to abuse aim assist. You need to have it on so you can figure that out obviously

  • @219ghoulish9
    @219ghoulish9 8 месяцев назад +1

    8:08 This hits different now LMFAOOOOOOO

    • @biggiecheese2004
      @biggiecheese2004 5 месяцев назад

      Ikr Roller players are so delusional 😂

    • @makotomurazakieng6219
      @makotomurazakieng6219 4 месяца назад

      @@biggiecheese2004 not really if you want to be the best you still need practice but what he voided is the fact that aim wise you need less practice to have a great aim on controller, literally the 1st accuracy controller player is 51.47% while the 1st accuracy mouse players is only 37% something, huge gap ngl

  • @Tangowastaken
    @Tangowastaken 10 месяцев назад +1

    2:58 No aim assist and also no pulling down to control recoil. Turn your scripts off and see how well you play lmao

  • @OverWatchMenVid
    @OverWatchMenVid Год назад +14

    Comment for the algorithm!! 😮😮😮

  • @skeley6776
    @skeley6776 Год назад +14

    Ngl seeing u struggle and calling this a challenge is pretty funny to me because thats just normal for every MnK because we actually have to aim with our own hands 100% and not just 60% xD.

    • @magnacrushersart572
      @magnacrushersart572 11 месяцев назад +2

      The problem is that sticks are worse at aiming but I've been playing splatoon on my friends switch maybe we could use the joystick + motion controlls as an option but i need to test that out.

    • @ViciouzMigz
      @ViciouzMigz 11 месяцев назад +1

      Try no aim assist on a controller tho. You only have a small stick that you use with your thumb. It’s difficult

    • @Honest_Slowpoke
      @Honest_Slowpoke 10 месяцев назад +6

      sticks is not equal to aiming with your hand, lol stop complaining

    • @zapmando
      @zapmando 9 месяцев назад +1

      Argument ends if devs would implement gyro more often

  • @NaroInDaKut
    @NaroInDaKut Год назад +2

    No ones talking about the production of this video

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      some people are, and it makes me really happy hahaha, took sometime making this

  • @01_Rogue
    @01_Rogue 7 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone else think this video format was different than expected? I was hoping to actually see the gradual progression from day 1 to day 7 (which i assumed the video was about because of the thumbnail and title) but most of the video is talking about playing with no aim assist With no actual gameplay progression.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  7 месяцев назад +1

      yeah that's the main thing i took from this, I like the format of story telling BUT I did end up cutting a bunch of gameplay parts to make the vid under 20 mins but it did ruin the gameplay part of the video a lil bit. I appreciate the feedback, will take it into consideration for future videos

    • @01_Rogue
      @01_Rogue 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@itsroguely good to know you are on the same page, I understand not wanting to make a 40 minute video just wish there was more gameplay. Explaining how you contacted other players and got advice to help progress isn't bad content, I just was expecting more gameplay

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@01_Rogue yee yee, i'll focus on that more for the next one

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@01_Rogue yee yee i'll focus on that more for the next vid

    • @01_Rogue
      @01_Rogue 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@itsroguely despite my criticism towards this video, I did subscribe and was going to look at your other videos, where have you been at? Haven't uploaded in 9 months?
      Edit: you made a video on the SBMM problem if you have been playing, how has the SBMM been since the retired the old SBMM and developed an updated one in season 20?

  • @innovance3788
    @innovance3788 Год назад +6

    Not convinced a normal person would achieve that level of competency in that short a period of time.
    Dope Production/Editing and dope vid overall though!!

  • @Nought_8
    @Nought_8 Год назад +1

    Your aim without aim assist at the beginning is like me with aim assist no cap

  • @chrisrogers5890
    @chrisrogers5890 Год назад

    Hey, whats the song that you're using at 13:00?

  • @fishywtf
    @fishywtf Год назад +1

    Lol I used to play no AA, but the issue is. What's the point you just get shit on by level 40s with AA. And then when you run into a person who can actually strafe, it's hard af. The amount of hours you have to put in is a lot too

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      well yeah, playing with no AA against other that do it's gonna put you in a great disadvantage, I just did it as an experiment.

    • @xJustJoeyx
      @xJustJoeyx Год назад +1

      You just described playing on mouse and keyboard. Lol How does it feel bro? Sucks huh? 😂😂
      *edit for spelling im high AF boi*

    • @liamratliff3824
      @liamratliff3824 Год назад

      ​@@xJustJoeyxit sucks even worse against mnk. Controllers have a massive deficiency compared to mnk movement.

  • @Haintly
    @Haintly 7 месяцев назад

    I had a very similar experience when I turned off aim assist for a while. My mid/long range was still okay. Micro adjustments weren't terribly hard to make. But tracking up close with any smg or the wingman was.. not good. I only played mixtape the first day and it was hell. Around hour 7 was when i could really start to feel myself tracking better and was finally on par with the top players in the lobbies again. All the days after were significantly better. But those first few hours suckedddddd. I almost gave up.

  • @bigboar0074
    @bigboar0074 Год назад +2

    This video is so well made. Editing and pacing are amazing

  • @chicknlittl3348
    @chicknlittl3348 Год назад +1

    Video is so good! Deserves way more views keep grinding

  • @enderbrahhd5149
    @enderbrahhd5149 10 месяцев назад +4

    Bro, watching you play without aim assist made me realize that if they removed the aim assist everything would be more enjoyable, honestly.

  • @Nick-us1wt
    @Nick-us1wt Месяц назад

    dude I can see the RAA pulling your crosshair you sure it's off?

  • @sheeshgt7075
    @sheeshgt7075 Год назад +7

    I feel like seeing this in a video is not as accurate as if you did this on stream. We can't see all the games, this could've been the 1 good game you had without AA - it's not a good portrayal having 1 good game out of 10 games, gives the wrong impression that controller doesn't need it. But in fact it does.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +2

      if I include every game i got, it would make the video longer than it had to be. Of course I had bad games here and there, I had games where I didn't do much due to rng/ died off drop and had other games where I got 6 kills but didn't win and other good ones but i didn't like the flow. the point of the last game wasn't "hey look how insane i am, check this baanger game" it was all about the progress of getting used to not having AA. I get your point, i really do, but imo that would apply if the final game was about getting a high kill game without aim assist, which it wasn't the point
      but also I agree, doing this on stream would've been better, but I don't stream as of rn unfortunately

  • @Sora-vj8nc
    @Sora-vj8nc Год назад +2

    This video is sooo underrated ,I'm sad it only got 200 likes in 2 weeks :(

  • @AceAevior
    @AceAevior Год назад +2

    Your sprays be looking like M&K sprays lmao

  • @RogueWraith
    @RogueWraith Год назад +1

    So freaking dope my dude!!

  • @petrtitera4660
    @petrtitera4660 Год назад +2

    When I saw this video, so motivated me to improve in Apex.
    and good video👍

  • @akumafuhen
    @akumafuhen 10 месяцев назад

    Good vid, one think about no aim assist is that disengaging from fights is alot easier, meaning you get all you yaw speed right away vs first breaking from the aa grip then you get full speed. And i think all they need to do is remove rotational aim assist but keep the slow down.

  • @blackb1rd
    @blackb1rd Год назад

    "my pk and wingman were below average"
    Literally hits the same amount of shots as I would on mnk : ' )

  • @awsome14619
    @awsome14619 Год назад +18

    You proved your point on the first day. You have hundres if not thousands of hours in apex. You are a good player. Then when AA is off, you lost all your games. The game is aiming for you.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +4

      My first 2k hours were on mnk, i switched in october of last year

    • @polish9017
      @polish9017 11 месяцев назад +10

      If you have a bit of common sense, you would realize that aim assist is really strong, but you still have to aim, when you remove AA suddenly, you wouldn't be used to it. So of course it would take days to get used to (coming from an mnk player)

    • @amarrados226
      @amarrados226 9 месяцев назад +5

      bro how do you even come to that conclusion? its called muscle memory if you are used to aiming a certain way bc of aim assist now its completely off muscle memory throws you off. he just proved that without any aim assist he improved a lot in a week. bc his brain had to relearn a new pattern

    • @HS-ts5wf
      @HS-ts5wf 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@amarrados226 Yeah and still people are complaining or scared about AA getting nerfed. Cause they would finally have to actually practice with their aim lol.

    • @yub5892
      @yub5892 6 месяцев назад

      @@itsroguely Way late of a reply, but as someone going from about 3k hours on MnK Masters to switching to controller, I have found playing without aim assist to be pretty easy to get the hang of when I decide to do it. Obviously not performing as well with AA on, but I think since we are already used to raw input, this type of raw input on controller feels pretty natural to us.

  • @skeley6776
    @skeley6776 Год назад +1

    All this could easily be fixed if MnK and Controller simply had different lobbies but than again u might need to wait for an hour with the amount of MnK players left in this community

  • @nbainsonia
    @nbainsonia Год назад +1

    Nice vídeo, well edited and a good idea

  • @kageekao5524
    @kageekao5524 Год назад +1

    Once you turn it back on...

  • @riskyumbrella4874
    @riskyumbrella4874 Год назад

    0:38 yes that is you, aim assist doesn't do that for you

  • @variant_420
    @variant_420 Год назад +1

    This is the quality content we need

  • @alejandroalf729
    @alejandroalf729 7 месяцев назад

    3:47 this is me even with aim assist, yeah.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  7 месяцев назад

      Gotta keep practicing then brother 🫡

  • @dordorica100
    @dordorica100 Год назад +4

    define normal player....a work all day dad like me that can only play like 2 hrs or normal player that plays 8 to 12 hrs? im not saying it cant be done i know it can but for guys like me it will take a lot

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +3

      that's more of a casual player i believe, which is fine. "Normal player" here is referring to someone who's comparing himself to someone in the high level/semi pro level. I'm a normal player compared to them, they're the "good" controller players who have worked on their mechanics a lot more than i have, if that makes sense? I'm working towards that level but i'm not there yet (not comp, just mechanics) just gotta keep learning

  • @apacheslays1674
    @apacheslays1674 Год назад +1

    controller is so easy and op thats why everybody switched at the pro level ....i started on controller grew up on consoles than switched to pc during covid decided to learn kbm because i enjoy apex movement but my 1 clips and ability to 1v3 hasnt been the same and ive mastered kbm now....aim assist is needed for those casual players but becomes way too op in the hands of any consistent player

  • @WAZTEDPANDA
    @WAZTEDPANDA Год назад

    "everybody would be doing it" oh look with every season we have more and more players switching from mnk to controller... yeah......

  • @catscatsonlycats1148
    @catscatsonlycats1148 Год назад +1

    did you re enabled aim assist?? how it went

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      it felt great, smoother but what i noticed the most was that my centering improved a lot more. I still play without AA in the range to warm up tho

    • @catscatsonlycats1148
      @catscatsonlycats1148 Год назад

      @@itsroguely well i might give that a try for a week

  • @7arooofps
    @7arooofps Год назад +1

    Funny how you looked like an actual MnK player with aim assist turned off. Troller die hards are just too lazy to actually get better at the game.
    Enoch saying that it takes a lot of skill to be great at troller is exactly the same with MnK. The thing with troller is that the skills floor is much higher vs MnK and the skill ceiling is much more lower vs MnK. Heck this is why most pros are switching to the inferior input.

  • @joshuaannakie2333
    @joshuaannakie2333 Год назад +22

    SO THANKS FOR CONFIRMING THAT THEY CAN JUST TAKE AIM ASSIST AWAY AND ITS DO-ABLE TO PLAY WITH OUT IT. EA TAKE IT AWAY

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      hahahaha, at least now i know if they nerf it i'll be ok

    • @treyjeffery9605
      @treyjeffery9605 Год назад +4

      If they take AA away it's only right that they take the ability to tap strafe away

    • @FemboyGamer496
      @FemboyGamer496 Год назад +2

      ​@@treyjeffery9605and looting while moving and configs and jitter aiming lmao

    • @Spooder050
      @Spooder050 8 месяцев назад

      Ok take away all the advantages mnk has aswell then cuz mnk will always be better at everything. Aiming and movement would be dominant on mnk

    • @DillanWilliams-c8j
      @DillanWilliams-c8j 7 месяцев назад

      If you've played enough, then there's no need to use aim assist. I tend to play without aim assist at least twice a week and it's doable.

  • @roastinpeace2320
    @roastinpeace2320 Год назад +4

    as many people have said.. if the game removed aim assist, a vast majority of "pro" players would lose their jobs.
    EDIT: And it seems you can manage just fine without aim assist. You literally can have same level of aim as on MnK after few days of training So why the hell is the auto aim even a thing? It's just like if they enabled it on MnK.. I had to train for months 8 hours a day in training range to even have a half decent aim on PC and still barely at 0.5 KD (and i'm not some PC newbie.. i've been rocking mouse and keyboard for 20 years 8 hours a day.) Console players just enable their aimbot and can just laser beam everything.

    • @Icycrackedpanda
      @Icycrackedpanda Год назад

      Turning on aim assist doesn’t not make you a better player and it doesn’t just improve your aim to the point your 1 clipping everything that moves you still have to practice aiming those people that are really good at controller I guarantee have put in the hours to get to where they are which is why they can produce similar results with a bit of practice after turning it off. Yes it takes time to adjust when it’s off your use to the crosshairs slowing down when you’re close to or on target when you take that away it’s almost like increasing your sense and you over shoot your target “ I know this because I’ve done it” so with time you adjust to the non slow down and you get back to or very close to what you were before. Now when a good player goes back and turns it on they go through another adjustment period where now they’re undershooting targets and they feel slow but this is short lived because now that the muscle memory is there for little micro adjustment “which is way harder on control than a mouse “I know this because I play both” that’s when the demons come out because now it’s slow they have the mechanics to adjust with in the range that’s assisted and life becomes way harder for everyone that’s within their crosshairs. Your average player isn’t doing that these are people that get on talk shit and go to sleep they’re not putting in the hours it takes to adjust to that level and unless they got full on aimbot they’re not competing with nobody that’s put those kinda hours in controller or MNK period

    • @roastinpeace2320
      @roastinpeace2320 Год назад

      @@Icycrackedpanda Agreed that turning on Aim assist isn't everything.. configuring it well is. My friend followed a few guides on how to completely remove recoil on controller and since then he's laser beaming everything. He literally has to move his thumb for not even an inch to completely nullify the recoil..

  • @val.3171
    @val.3171 6 месяцев назад

    At least they have to make some delay or leave only slow down thing 🤔

  • @LAN-w-
    @LAN-w- Год назад

    you didnt use extra yaw and pitch?

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      Extra yaw and pitch are only good if u have AA on tbh

    • @LAN-w-
      @LAN-w- Год назад

      @@itsroguely oh, so turning those off is better for overall performance and consistency?

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      so basically what they do is they increase the speed of your yaw and pitch a bit, so you can turn left and right faster but once your crosshair is on a target it's mad sticky, that's the best way i can explain it@@LAN-w-

    • @LAN-w-
      @LAN-w- Год назад +1

      @@itsroguely Thank you for responding, I'm aware of this, but what what I meant and sorry for not being clear was turning off the extra yaw and pitch might be better for consistency when playing without Aim assist is what I'm assuming since you said that the biggest benefit you would get out of that is when you have aim assist turn on.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      @@LAN-w- ohhhh Gotcha, yeah I did turn it off. I experimented with it a lil bit but it wasn’t working for me

  • @strkerd
    @strkerd Год назад

    Aside from ranked, in pro league, I believe people should be contending with their own abilities 100%. That's what a competitive player is supposed to be. Why would people go for a pro who is assisted 40~60% by aimbot?

  • @Raptorz413
    @Raptorz413 Год назад +2

    controller having to practice aim and skill say it ain’t so

  • @vivou5465
    @vivou5465 Год назад

    The solution wouldn't be to just delete aim assist but to also add gyroscope functions. They are true controller demons who use gyro functions on games like Team Fortress 2, Splatoon or even CSGO. The solution is here but it would honestly scare most casual players because they'll have to seriously train and run routines to master their inputs like it's commonly done on mnk.

    • @cremator-2fort
      @cremator-2fort Год назад

      I would love to use something like fli k sti k on roller, but my Xbox controller doesn't have gyro and Apex doesn't support it natively.

    • @justarandomperson3700
      @justarandomperson3700 Год назад

      @@beansworldlive
      yeah it is. It just takes some getting used to if you already have controller muscle-memory built up. Once you get past that barrier your controller potential will shoot up.

  • @laxg64
    @laxg64 Месяц назад

    ihardscope is proof roller players can be good without AA. Guy rolls dudes on cs on roller. The thing that makes AA broken is consistency. The other problem is rotational AA. The alow down is good and fine but a computer has better reaction times than a human which also is a huge problem. I get why AA is in games, it makes sense for the average dudes who just wanna relax and game. Just let there be an option for mnk to play with only mnk loke console players get

  • @Evelynyr
    @Evelynyr Год назад +5

    love hearing controller players trying to downplay how OP aim-assist is, Love how he points out "In order to be come the best controller player" that it involves an immense amount of skill, Just like every PC fucker out there has only his input and that´s it, while controller player corssair will slow down to almost a full stop if a enemy gets in frame and then if he's 30-35m away the aim-assist can just kill the target for you, its stupid to downplay aim-assist - plus the start of the video you did super good without it on, I´d call that pure skill and it looks like most PC players out there, few shots off here and there - Example, if i got into Control game mode as Juckrat and i´ll get beemed in secounds i change to Bangalore and soon as a smoke the enemy i never get beemed, its super strange.

    • @Evelynyr
      @Evelynyr Год назад +1

      Your doing insane by the end of the video, Nice seeing how you totally overcame this challance.

    • @ukoi9534
      @ukoi9534 Год назад +2

      Fr. When he was taking around 3 clips to kill a dummy I immediately thought to myself "what? isn't that the average effort you take to kill someone on mnk?"

    • @Evelynyr
      @Evelynyr Год назад +1

      @@ukoi9534 yeah, it looked so normal - beeming everything is what looks unreal

    • @Icycrackedpanda
      @Icycrackedpanda Год назад +1

      1 it doesn’t slow down to almost stop that’s an exaggeration people playing on slow sens you literally can run out of their frame and aim assist does nothing … and the people that have a high sens have a slow ADS they still have to get on target for it to do anything..
      Turning on aim assist doesn't not make you a better player and it doesn't just improve your aim to the point your 1 clipping everything that moves you still have to practice aiming those people that are really good at controller I guarantee have put in the hours to get to where they are which is why they can produce similar results with a bit of practice after turning it off. Yes it takes time to adjust when it's off your use to the crosshairs slowing down when you're close to or on target when you take that away it's almost like increasing your sense and you over shoot your target " I know this because I've done it" so with time you adjust to the non slow down and you get back to or very close to what you were before. Now when a good player goes back and turns it on they go through another adjustment period where now they're undershooting targets and they feel slow but this is short lived because now that the muscle memory is there for little micro adjustment "which is way harder on control than a mouse "I know this because I play both" that's when the demons come out because now it's slow they have the mechanics to adjust with in the range that's assisted and life becomes way harder for everyone that's within their crosshairs. Your average player isn't doing that these are people that get on talk shit and go to sleep they're not putting in the hours it takes to adjust to that level and unless they got full on aimbot they're not competing with nobody that's put those kinda hours in controller or MNK period

    • @zee8166
      @zee8166 9 месяцев назад +1

      I play without aim assist and I thought my aim was just bad or something but it turns out I was playing against people who use aim assist

  • @billybob-fw3vr
    @billybob-fw3vr Год назад +1

    Aim assist is busted it needs a fat nerf

  • @lilshizie0072
    @lilshizie0072 Год назад

    Anyone know the song at the end?

    • @lilshizie0072
      @lilshizie0072 Год назад

      i found it, Are You Ready? - Castle Heist

  • @drewzle837
    @drewzle837 Год назад +3

    The editing and pacing of this video are incredible, excellent work🤌🏽

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      thanks brotha i appreciate that a lot

  • @RoxxeeeTV
    @RoxxeeeTV Год назад

    Nice work 😊

  • @emersiv5631
    @emersiv5631 11 месяцев назад

    Wow missing shots like a normal human would....imagine that. I've seen a bunch of controller demons that don't use aim assist its definitely not needed. I feel like .2 would be the most reasonable place for pc and .3 for console.

  • @rdaxphantom2240
    @rdaxphantom2240 Год назад +3

    This inspires me to get better at the game

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      appreciate that a lot. Apex did that to me in general, ruined any other FPS game for me

  • @doxxero
    @doxxero Год назад

    Great video!, But i think you should watch this other video to understand AA vs MnK from another perspective. I would link it if you want, i don't want to be disrespectful a link a video to another creator.
    BTW: The quality for your videos.... Amazing...

  • @rekondaddy8109
    @rekondaddy8109 10 месяцев назад

    You without AA is better than me with AA😂

  • @ashofwhackbat6426
    @ashofwhackbat6426 Год назад +2

    This is what 4-3 linear is in ALC if you need it for future reference.
    Yaw: 240
    Pitch: 200
    Turning Extra Yaw: 220
    Turning Extra Pitch: 0
    Turning Ramp-up time: 30%
    Turning Ramp-up delay: 0%
    Ads Yaw: 110
    Ads Pitch: 75
    Ads turning extra yaw: 30
    Ads turning extra pitch: 30
    Ads Turning Ramp-up time: 100%
    Ads Turning Ramp-up delay: 25%
    No Deadzone: 0
    Outer threshold: 2%
    Response Curve: 0

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      that actually would've helped aa lot when I did this hahaha, I looked up the values on reddit and it felt slow af so i turned it up a bit

    • @ashofwhackbat6426
      @ashofwhackbat6426 Год назад +1

      @@itsroguely I have the whole conversion chart if you need it

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      @@ashofwhackbat6426 yeah DM me on twitter itsroguely_

    • @ashofwhackbat6426
      @ashofwhackbat6426 Год назад +1

      @@itsroguely I don’t have a Twitter account but I do have Reddit

    • @norimg6372
      @norimg6372 Год назад

      ​@@ashofwhackbat6426bro I need too you have discord ?

  • @Karter-z5w
    @Karter-z5w 3 месяца назад

    If you don’t got aim assist you stay back

  • @FireKnightGaming
    @FireKnightGaming Год назад +1

    How do you feel your aim is now going back to aim assist?

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      it feels 10x better now, I still warm up in the range without it to improve a lot more. once i turn it on it feels so smooth

    • @FireKnightGaming
      @FireKnightGaming Год назад +1

      @@itsroguely started today without aimasisst not as bad as I thought. Close up is the struggle.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      @@FireKnightGaming yeah close up will be like that for a while

  • @rShira
    @rShira Год назад +5

    What an amazing video!! Enjoyed watching it for sure and might try the challenge out aswell

  • @MarioMario-vy4bi
    @MarioMario-vy4bi 5 месяцев назад

    Controller players wouldn’t need aim assist if they used gyro

  • @fernandosouza0308
    @fernandosouza0308 11 месяцев назад

    MnK players really complaining bout aim assist when they literally use the movement of their whole arm to aim precisely versus players that are aiming with their thumb 💀

  • @ajr4878
    @ajr4878 11 месяцев назад

    Should've asked snip3down and genburten about how op AA is 😂 absolutely wild how much people think they are the ones doing the aiming. It's not op when you're aiming for yourself and fighting it AA's control lmfao

  • @LAN-w-
    @LAN-w- Год назад

    I'm not a great player by any means I'm just throwing it right there now, I can sometimes win 1v3's but thats rare, 1k damage is not hard as long as team mates go together. As a non aim assist controller player for more than a year, I definitely agree that controller players need some form of aim assist. Preferably a slowdown aim assist rather than magnetism, I think apex both has those which is why it's so good at close range. I dabble a little bit on the aim assist on apex at firing range and a little bit on control mode and oh boi they weren't lying when they said it aims for you at close range and as said in the video it hurts you more when you try to compensate at close range better to let the aim assist work(I was playing max sens linear when I tested this). Mid range however is I think is pretty decent, long range feels like u dont have aim assist at all. Also tap strafers is one of the main reason why I think aim assist is needed, I mean these monkey strafers going bananas and you expect us controller players to track that without aim assist? I don't use aim assist but still. But I agree that close range is pretty hmmm for aim assist. Again this is just my perspective, I don't have a vast knowledge or experience regarding aim assist on apex.

    • @daemon_fpv7693
      @daemon_fpv7693 Год назад +1

      Like if 100% of the mnk players could do all the crazy superglide tap strafe bullshit….
      I play mnk, I know how to do those stuff, so I exactly know when I see enemy players using them, and belive me less than 5% of players can actually use those techniques correctly and effectively.

    • @LAN-w-
      @LAN-w- Год назад

      @@daemon_fpv7693 Well yeah, thats why I suggest nerfing AA.

  • @JCho133
    @JCho133 Год назад +1

    🔥🔥🔥 video

  • @joelrigaux7566
    @joelrigaux7566 Год назад +1

    I've allways liked to deactivate aim assist so mk player could not say that it aims for me, it also feel way more rewarding getting a kill this way and it help a lot for when u get back to using it.
    Definitely something everyone should try at least a bit !

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      it does feel way more satisfying when I got kills without it, and yeah they can't say it aims for us. Back when I was on Mnk I never understood the hate towards roller players, so weird to me

  • @zapmando
    @zapmando 9 месяцев назад

    Gyro players are waiting, for game devs to stop making the meta AA, Nintendo are the only ones who care about skill

  • @kuhgs
    @kuhgs Год назад +1

    Banger video

  • @bonekill6782
    @bonekill6782 Год назад

    Sucks to be me I can aim mid to long range but in close I’m worse than a senile grandma and I play controller

    • @bonekill6782
      @bonekill6782 Год назад

      I don’t know how to fix close range I just miss every shot even with aim assist

  • @testtube173
    @testtube173 11 месяцев назад

    Such a funny video. Stacking in pub games. The irony that you are both saying aa is not completely necessary and that this challenge of playing in public matches for 1 week without it is the hardest thing you've ever done is icing on the cake. People act like a great player isnt great solely because of aim assist meanwhile not a single solitary pro player would ever dream of competing without it really says all that needs to be said. Its not really worth discussing if its overpowered or not when the sample size for people that don't utilize it in competitive play is 0. Its like asking if using a mouse with your keyboard helps. You could play without it and just use keyboard to aim (literally how fps shooters started) but literally nobody would do that.

  • @dark_rule03
    @dark_rule03 Год назад

    15:44

  • @vespenevapor1348
    @vespenevapor1348 5 месяцев назад

    Wow turning it off makes it easy like Mnk

  • @Klipukai
    @Klipukai Год назад

    The song on day 7 sounds the fortnite chapter 2 thing

  • @tahj2981
    @tahj2981 Год назад +1

    Good vid

  • @silverfox945
    @silverfox945 5 месяцев назад

    Hey look. 0.2 on pc now

  • @buffpath
    @buffpath Год назад +1

    The best apex creator

  • @nikobello8918
    @nikobello8918 Год назад

    Bring back old AA

  • @cezarstietot2417
    @cezarstietot2417 Год назад

    Rarahrah lifeline where are you ?!?!? Heal meeeeee

  • @Rvez999
    @Rvez999 Год назад +4

    turn off aim assist =)

  • @OblivixnFPS
    @OblivixnFPS 9 месяцев назад

    You don't even have aim assist disabled in this video LMAO.

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  9 месяцев назад

      it was off so i'll take this as a compliment, appreciate u

  • @liggerstuxin1
    @liggerstuxin1 Год назад

    So basically, you’re remaking the video moose made

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад

      same concept yeah, but both our formats are different so no carbon copy of his vid, plus he didn't invent the no aim assist challenge, no idea who did

  • @1RGX
    @1RGX 5 месяцев назад

    30% higher accuracy on average than m&k, turn off the aim assist and u can't land a shot lmao

    • @ynwexecutioner
      @ynwexecutioner 5 месяцев назад

      Because m n k have a whole arm to aim while we only have a thumb make it make sense

    • @1RGX
      @1RGX 5 месяцев назад

      @@ynwexecutioner 30% MORE ACCURACY IS 30% MORE ACCURACY, IDC IF U'RE USING YOUR TONGUE TO AIM, 30% HIGHER ACCURACY IS INSANE. If aim assist wouldn't be such an advantage pro's wouldn't switch to controllers. Plus YOU can turn off crossplay if u don't want to play against pc players, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

    • @ynwexecutioner
      @ynwexecutioner 5 месяцев назад

      @@1RGX LMAO OK REMOVE TAP STRAFFING THEN AT THAT POINT MAYBE THEN AIM ASSIST CAN BE REMOVED IDC M N K HAS MOVEMENT SO AIM ASSIST IS THERE FOR Compensation

    • @1RGX
      @1RGX 5 месяцев назад

      @@ynwexecutioner "MNK has movement" No it fucking doesn't you need to learn the movement. Remove skill based movement, that you need to learn, if you think that skill based movement is a problem, and a program aiming for you isn't, in a game about shooting people, then u're just braindamaged.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales 4 месяца назад

      @@1RGXLMAOO

  • @hockeyplayer39
    @hockeyplayer39 5 месяцев назад

    roller players cope so hard...no its not you hitting one clips and no you wouldnt stand a chance at the competitive level without AA

  • @sidoubino6873
    @sidoubino6873 Год назад

    his name still aim assiste 40% aim bot with 60% skills
    🙃🙃🙃

  • @AlexAims
    @AlexAims Год назад

    Banger

  • @Icesweats
    @Icesweats Год назад

    idk why ppl call this no aim assist when your just turning off target compensation, the slow down is still their so why is it called no aim assist when its clearly not

    • @itsroguely
      @itsroguely  Год назад +1

      there is no slow down at all. I tested it and once you turn target compensation off you get no slowdown, no rotational, nothing

  • @Honest_Slowpoke
    @Honest_Slowpoke 10 месяцев назад

    its so pathetic the amount of mnk crybabies in your comments trying to use someone who has thousands hours + combined in apex semi-mastering no aa into taking aa away and not accounting for the majoritiy casual fanbase who use controller
    half the time the same ppl complaining abt controller get shit on by better mnk players and blame aa regardless, if controller is so good switch to it or get better at the game

  • @GMon_21
    @GMon_21 Год назад

    I am surprised they did not talk about the high ping console player have to deal with.

  • @patricklindberg6851
    @patricklindberg6851 Год назад +4

    Yes, delete aim assist from the game

  • @Hyqua
    @Hyqua Год назад

    🎯🔫

  • @urprise
    @urprise Год назад

    When you see how good he is without aim assist, this proof for me that controllers don't need aim assist and that this shit give an advantage against pc players.

  • @see2remember
    @see2remember Год назад

    I suck , i admit , and aim assist makes me a god , i say aim assist should be off at LEAST on ranked

  • @dark_rule03
    @dark_rule03 Год назад

    I’m a good controller player I didn’t even know aim assist existed in apex lol and I’m prestige

    • @skeley6776
      @skeley6776 Год назад +2

      how do u not notice ur Aim moving on its own xD.

    • @vivou5465
      @vivou5465 Год назад

      @@skeley6776 That's my story before i switched to mnk back in 2015 i didn't realise how much aim assist helped me, one day I hopped on Battlefield 3 with my controller on my freshly new pc... and i sucked ass. I didn't know why i was aiming so bad to the point i thought my inputs were broken, i realised then that they were no aim assist on the pc version of Battlefield 3 lmaooo