@@jasonhenninger8220 8x in a PCIe Gen 3 system has little impact on performance. It's isn't like 4x (Cough RX 6500XT), we have shown this on the channel before.
@@TechLabUK I'm from the US and at $300 it not bad but I don't see any advantages upgrading it from my 3050. I'm jumping to a big boy GPU after the 50 series is released, hopefully they offer something worth upgrading to.
@@racoonchief Maybe right now but in three months I would say so. Intel has released the new xess upscaling and its better then fssr. The dollar value of the card is growing although only for experienced users, Rtx 4060 all the way for people just entering the market.
It's definitely not that bad but it's a hard card to justify. The used price is a little higher than a 3060Ti which it doesn't offer a whole lot more than, I know people are struggling to move them at the price they want (£250+) but the truth is they're worth £200. It's that 8GB of VRAM, if they had just given it 16GB it would be flying off the shelves since it would offer something genuinely worth paying for. Also your table suggests RTX 3060 is an 8GB card but really you'll struggle to find the gimped 8GB/128bit version, it's a 12GB/192bit card and these are still the strong sellers.
Upgraded from my old workhorse gtx 1060 6gb to the rtx 4060 8gb and its a beast for FullHD gaming - paid around 270€ for the asus variant. Runs very quiet as well. Even 120 Fps at very high settings are possible thanks to dlss. I mostly play games that where released before 2021 so i couldnt care less for high end cards.
The 4060 in on itself is not s bad card, on a vacuum. The main issues comes down to pricing, generational performance and VRAM. The price of the 4060 is way to high for what it does since you could get a 3060 12GB, brand new, for less and get the same performance on most games if not more performance thanks to its extra 4GB buffer. Hell, even if they had the same VRAM the memory ingerface was downgraded from 192-bit to 128-bit, which is hughe. This is why the 4060 ti 16GB still struggles on some games even when having enough VRAM. The 4060 feels like a scam because it behaves like a 4050 succesor, not a 4060. Nvidia has build its brand imparting some meaning on their peoduct stack. The 80-90 class are high end, 60-70 class are midrange and 50 and below is entry level. However it now feels like they want the 70 class to be the whole of the midrange whith the 60 being barely entry level. Feels lazy. More so because while the 4060 performans ok for most of today's game's it still struggles with some new releases like Alan Wake and even Horizon Forbidden West. Most of these issues is due lack of VRAM and lower VRAM bit-bus. Hell, even the previous gen can perform better, this is why it feels like a scam. If you can find it cheap and there are no other options or you want/need some of the nvidia software suit like cuda or AV1 or NVencode/decode then it is not a bad option, but otherwise you would be better of with AMD or even Intel.
The hardest part for me when choosing between Rx 6700 xt or 4060 Is theres barely any export times benchmark On youtube. Ppl say go nvidia for productivity(adobe, davinci) But i just wanna know how much i sacrifice When choosing AMD for productivity apps.
I think for streaming, recording and rendering amd is not the option to choose but other things amd is fine. I do game development and have rx6600 it is just working fine. Nvidia is better but the price is the cons.
@@zilverman7820 i actually bought 4060 a week after that comment. export times in adobe apps definitely improved from my 1070 lol but i havent tried blender render times but i think Vex"s 4060 video has results comparison in that shows it's a beast for its price. i can say the my problem for this gpu is that is has ONLY 8gb VRAM so to compensate i have to use optimize guides from youtube channels like Benchmark King to make game look ultra settings while lowering vram usage and of course setting DLSS quality FG with reflex on does work especially in Cyberpunk 2077 1080p High 120-160 fps at all times and the "input lag" is unnoticeable
@@Vince-pm5dn 8gb vram is fine on 1080p what's important is 4060 is fast. That stigma that 8gb vram is not enough started only on un optimized games last year. Also 8gb cards are there for budget gamers.
@@iitzfizz you should review latest benchmark data using latest ARC drivers. ARC drivers keep getting better with triple digit performance improvements while AMD drivers are fully matured and don’t bring any more improvements with updates. A770 has caught up to 6700xt and 6750xt and is still cheaper. Even still, if even slightly less performant, A770 is a far better value at $279 and is still being a relevant product and not a cancelled product no longer in production like the 6700xt and 6750xt. Not to mention ray tracing on those cards is total dogshit!t while the A770 it’s actually decent. Last 16gb of VRAM in the A770 at $279…. Those AMD cards don’t have it and can’t touch it at that price. So Radeon is no from me
the problem is vram, if rtx 4060 had 12gb... it would be the perfect 300€ gpu. but ofc nvidia had to set that stupid limit even when we thought they understood with the release of rtx 3060 12gb
When you drag out upgrades everything is a good price to performance ratio. My 4060ti was basically $7 per percent performance. The no RGB was great I like updating at night and the lights bug me
@@racoonchiefso you love having and paying for 8gb vram in 2024 and to also get 20% worse performance. Power isn't everything, the most important is vram and price
I upgraded from a GTX 950 to the RTX 4060. This is a major upgrade for me. I only play old games so it not being the best at modern triple A title does not matter to me.
rx6800/7700xt is the minimum even for 1080p if you want to play new games on native resolution and high settings. 8gb GPUs i wouldnt pay more than 250$ for any of them, it hurts to much when you ran out of vram on more expensive gpu.
and people are crying its expensive when in fact its not. its actually better than the 3060 with 12 gb and cheaper than 3060 at release . like for 299 dollars that plays everything on 1080p and at 1440p, i don't really get where the hate came from. like for 299 dollars hahaha.
i will say, at 2:20, you pulled up the specs for the wrong 3060, the original 3060 is the 12gb version, the 8gb version is cut down in specs and vram, making it more like a 2060 super for performance
If nvidia realised that the 13% of gamers that arent picking up their gpus are due to price and they adjusted the price of their lower end cards to reasonable prices, they would have 98% of the market share by now. for now though, keep buying intel and AMD
Can you test the A310? although it's not 6GB I've seen it performs above fast iGPU's. It's not made for gaming but it supports all the API's in the synthetic Benchmark tests I've ran.
I've had this gpu about 7 weeks now and I'm getting rid of it next week. Good card but the 8gb of vram is absolutely garbage. The card struggles or can't handle most ultra settings. Sure i can turn on the 9000 a.i settings to fake my image or i can just buy a real gpu.
100 DKK (£11) more expensive in Denmark, over the RX7600. Not exactly a bad deal. And on techpowerup, RX7600 and RTX4060 are neck-a-neck. Wonder how it would look in a multi-game versus. If general raster performance are the same, then 4060 wins by general features, such as DLSS, RT and more non-gaming support, thanks to CUDA.
"Budget" offering... with 8GB of VRAM, the official minimum requirement for a couple 2023 games already. And all of that for 300 bucks. A current-gen Ryzen 5 can be had for the same price tag as a Phenom II in 2009. Storage hasn't become massively more expensive either. Nor screens. Nor anything. But GPU makers are on a different level. Even various tech channels have been doing their PR work, in adjusting historical GPU prices for inflation, 1:1. Comparing those prices far more favorably than they have any right to be.
RTX3060 was initially launched with 12GB vram and 192 bit bus speed, I believe its better than the cut down version with 8gb you have comparing here. Hence, 4060 is seen as a downgrade/side-grade outside Frame generation.
outside Frame generation? yeah and outside DLSS3 and outside much lower Power consumption and outside AV1 Encoding and outside Cuda cores for People that wanna play around with AI stuff. and outside that its newer and will be supported longer and it doesnt need 192 bus speed, but thats a bit technical. but it was a disspointing release, especially because the Jump from the previous Card wasnt big, and i would like it to have 12 GB VRAM but it has much more to offer than just Framegen. Im not a Fan of this Card but i would take it over the 3060 12 GB, and People mostly just jumping on the hate Train. The 4060ti is a bit harder to defend, especially the 16GB Version.
All this "not bad but too pricey blabla" Yeah we know. And it's the exact same with the rx7600, 4060 vs 7600 is a tie in performance but 4060 can do rt better. But I don't get why run this card at higher than 1080p in modern games. the price of the rtx4060 and the rx7600 is the same (in my part of the world at least) also don't believe the 3060 12gb can keep up with these cards. It can't in the many tests I have seen.
@@TechLabUK I admit the difference is small but the 4060 still takes the lead in multiple tests. This was without using upscaling. it's only like 8% better than 3060 12gb so it's mostly about what older card people got. Like is it worth an upgrade or not
@@The.Crawling.Chaos. I wouldn't say any direct generational upgrade is worth it anymore. Anyone on an older GTX 1060 though would have to weigh them both up together though.
ada is a 60 to 70% ish improvement over ampere in performance and the 4060 is just 18% faster than the 3060 thats why its bad. the 1060 was 70% ish faster than the 960 making it around the 980's performance soo gen on gen the 1060 was great and the 4060 simply is not. its faster than the 3060 but slower than the 3060ti ie not even a tier up in performance. pretty obvious that nvidia decided to take the ada gains to shift tiers by selling weaker gpus for more.
i would pay 40% Extra to get Nvidia Drivers, they alone are worth it. i got the RX 6600 after having 2 Nvidia Cards. I sent the 6600 back because it ran ass. In RE4 it wad more frames than my 1060 but it had stutters that made it worse than my 1060, in ROcket League i had hologram effects on my Screen, and other problems. Friend of mine has a 5700XT, and says AMD has bad drivers and his games are Crashing. yeah i would pay the 40% extra.
It beats the 3060 up to 20% besides in the few Games that need 12 GBVram. but then you reduce the Texture Settings a bit and its good to go. People are overly dramatic. 4060 comes with many benefits. i agree that it should have 12 gb Vram and the Jump could be a bit higher but you are very dramatic.
When looked at in a vacuum, NO card is terrible. We don't live in a vacuum and this card is HORRENDOUSLY out-classed by Radeons in the same price neighbourhood.
Correction: The RTX 4060 has a Bus Interface of PCIe Gen 4 x 8 not PCIe Gen 4 x 16.
As it is only x8 if you try to drop this in as an upgrade to an older PC that has gen3 PCIe, it will cripple the card.
@@jasonhenninger8220 8x in a PCIe Gen 3 system has little impact on performance. It's isn't like 4x (Cough RX 6500XT), we have shown this on the channel before.
I never hated the 4060, it offers good performance but just a tad pricey.
Yup, the price is where they need to make changes. Even if it met the RX 7600 at £250 it would be better.
@@TechLabUK I'm from the US and at $300 it not bad but I don't see any advantages upgrading it from my 3050. I'm jumping to a big boy GPU after the 50 series is released, hopefully they offer something worth upgrading to.
8GB VRAM GPU in 2024 ?@@urluelhurl
Extra price is for Dlss its worth it.
If you get a Prebuilt PC on sale that has a 4060 in it. You actually get it for a lower price . Like $100 dollars lower for me.
Was gonna go for 4060 originally, then found a Arc750 for less than 200. The 4060's a better performer but the dollar/fps ratio isn't so hot.
The Arc isn't a bad card, great performance and has continued to improve so was a good buy for that.
Yeah the arc, performs closer to 3060 sometimes, sometimes it's a 1060 definitely better dollar/fps than 4060
@@racoonchief Maybe right now but in three months I would say so. Intel has released the new xess upscaling and its better then fssr. The dollar value of the card is growing although only for experienced users, Rtx 4060 all the way for people just entering the market.
The 3050 eclipses this as worst card😂
True, True 😆
It's definitely not that bad but it's a hard card to justify. The used price is a little higher than a 3060Ti which it doesn't offer a whole lot more than, I know people are struggling to move them at the price they want (£250+) but the truth is they're worth £200. It's that 8GB of VRAM, if they had just given it 16GB it would be flying off the shelves since it would offer something genuinely worth paying for.
Also your table suggests RTX 3060 is an 8GB card but really you'll struggle to find the gimped 8GB/128bit version, it's a 12GB/192bit card and these are still the strong sellers.
the 3060 was a 12gb cards with 192bit bus. the 8gb card was the gimped one they released later. also the 4060 doesnt have pcie x16 its x8.
Oh yeah I forgot that gimped 3060 even existed, nobody bought them hopefully! 3060 12GB is still a pretty strong seller.
Upgraded from my old workhorse gtx 1060 6gb to the rtx 4060 8gb and its a beast for FullHD gaming - paid around 270€ for the asus variant. Runs very quiet as well.
Even 120 Fps at very high settings are possible thanks to dlss.
I mostly play games that where released before 2021 so i couldnt care less for high end cards.
2:46 Small correction, the 4060 has PCIe Gen 4 x 8 (same as the RX 7600, 7600 XT and the 4060 Ti).
Yes, you are correct, my pull of data from Techpowerup has done a wobbly. Will add an update in a pinned comment. Thanks
The 4060 in on itself is not s bad card, on a vacuum. The main issues comes down to pricing, generational performance and VRAM. The price of the 4060 is way to high for what it does since you could get a 3060 12GB, brand new, for less and get the same performance on most games if not more performance thanks to its extra 4GB buffer. Hell, even if they had the same VRAM the memory ingerface was downgraded from 192-bit to 128-bit, which is hughe. This is why the 4060 ti 16GB still struggles on some games even when having enough VRAM. The 4060 feels like a scam because it behaves like a 4050 succesor, not a 4060. Nvidia has build its brand imparting some meaning on their peoduct stack. The 80-90 class are high end, 60-70 class are midrange and 50 and below is entry level. However it now feels like they want the 70 class to be the whole of the midrange whith the 60 being barely entry level. Feels lazy. More so because while the 4060 performans ok for most of today's game's it still struggles with some new releases like Alan Wake and even Horizon Forbidden West. Most of these issues is due lack of VRAM and lower VRAM bit-bus. Hell, even the previous gen can perform better, this is why it feels like a scam.
If you can find it cheap and there are no other options or you want/need some of the nvidia software suit like cuda or AV1 or NVencode/decode then it is not a bad option, but otherwise you would be better of with AMD or even Intel.
I got the Rog Strix 4060 TI 16Gb at launch, and I don't care what anyone says...it's a BEAST....that SIPS the power.
Although I disagree, but at the end of the day as long as your happy with your purchase and it does what you need that's all that really matters. 👍
The hardest part for me
when choosing between Rx 6700 xt or 4060
Is theres barely any export times benchmark
On youtube.
Ppl say go nvidia for productivity(adobe, davinci)
But i just wanna know how much i sacrifice
When choosing AMD for productivity apps.
I think for streaming, recording and rendering amd is not the option to choose but other things amd is fine. I do game development and have rx6600 it is just working fine. Nvidia is better but the price is the cons.
@@zilverman7820 i actually bought 4060 a week after that comment. export times in adobe apps definitely improved from my 1070 lol but i havent tried blender render times but i think Vex"s 4060 video has results comparison in that shows it's a beast for its price.
i can say the my problem for this gpu is that is has ONLY 8gb VRAM so to compensate i have to use optimize guides from youtube channels like Benchmark King to make game look ultra settings while lowering vram usage
and of course setting DLSS quality FG with reflex on does work especially in Cyberpunk 2077 1080p High 120-160 fps at all times and the "input lag" is unnoticeable
@@Vince-pm5dn 8gb vram is fine on 1080p what's important is 4060 is fast. That stigma that 8gb vram is not enough started only on un optimized games last year. Also 8gb cards are there for budget gamers.
the A770 for $279 to $290 destroys the RTX4060/RTX4060TI and 7600/7600XT cross the board
300 can get you a 6700 XT/6750 XT which is even better
Haha what a joke lmao.
@@racoonchief your mom is a joke
@@iitzfizz you should review latest benchmark data using latest ARC drivers. ARC drivers keep getting better with triple digit performance improvements while AMD drivers are fully matured and don’t bring any more improvements with updates. A770 has caught up to 6700xt and 6750xt and is still cheaper. Even still, if even slightly less performant, A770 is a far better value at $279 and is still being a relevant product and not a cancelled product no longer in production like the 6700xt and 6750xt. Not to mention ray tracing on those cards is total dogshit!t while the A770 it’s actually decent. Last 16gb of VRAM in the A770 at $279…. Those AMD cards don’t have it and can’t touch it at that price. So Radeon is no from me
the problem is vram, if rtx 4060 had 12gb... it would be the perfect 300€ gpu.
but ofc nvidia had to set that stupid limit even when we thought they understood with the release of rtx 3060 12gb
When you drag out upgrades everything is a good price to performance ratio. My 4060ti was basically $7 per percent performance. The no RGB was great I like updating at night and the lights bug me
These numbers are useless if you are hitting texture swap issues, and I guarantee you are with games like Hogwarts Legacy
6700 XT/6750 XT is king in this ~£300 price bracket imo
Definitely, if you can snatch up either of those for £300 or less you are winning. Would totally destroy this thing.
@@TechLabUK Yup, the good XFX QICK 3 fan model was on clearance sale at Ebuyer recently for £299
Those cards are trash and consume twice the power.
@@racoonchiefso you love having and paying for 8gb vram in 2024 and to also get 20% worse performance. Power isn't everything, the most important is vram and price
@@kamgaming4454I don't play those pretty walking simulators at ultra settings. Check the most played games, 4060 is for those.
I upgraded from a GTX 950 to the RTX 4060. This is a major upgrade for me. I only play old games so it not being the best at modern triple A title does not matter to me.
That’s a huge upgrade and even though you don’t play them, the 4060 will play them so good all round.
rx6800/7700xt is the minimum even for 1080p if you want to play new games on native resolution and high settings. 8gb GPUs i wouldnt pay more than 250$ for any of them, it hurts to much when you ran out of vram on more expensive gpu.
and people are crying its expensive when in fact its not. its actually better than the 3060 with 12 gb and cheaper than 3060 at release . like for 299 dollars that plays everything on 1080p and at 1440p, i don't really get where the hate came from. like for 299 dollars hahaha.
Lol they want it to be 100 usd, like forget pc gaming hahaha.
thanks for including 4k resolution
i have 4k monitor
helps a lot
No problem. On new cards we generally include all three resolutions (1080p, 1440p and 4K) and sometimes on high end older cards too.
i will say, at 2:20, you pulled up the specs for the wrong 3060, the original 3060 is the 12gb version, the 8gb version is cut down in specs and vram, making it more like a 2060 super for performance
If nvidia realised that the 13% of gamers that arent picking up their gpus are due to price and they adjusted the price of their lower end cards to reasonable prices, they would have 98% of the market share by now.
for now though, keep buying intel and AMD
Can you test the A310? although it's not 6GB I've seen it performs above fast iGPU's. It's not made for gaming but it supports all the API's in the synthetic Benchmark tests I've ran.
I've had this gpu about 7 weeks now and I'm getting rid of it next week. Good card but the 8gb of vram is absolutely garbage. The card struggles or can't handle most ultra settings. Sure i can turn on the 9000 a.i settings to fake my image or i can just buy a real gpu.
100 DKK (£11) more expensive in Denmark, over the RX7600.
Not exactly a bad deal.
And on techpowerup, RX7600 and RTX4060 are neck-a-neck.
Wonder how it would look in a multi-game versus.
If general raster performance are the same, then 4060 wins by general features, such as DLSS, RT and more non-gaming support, thanks to CUDA.
Could be better, but a perfect 1080p card.
It's a great 1080p card. I am interested in how it performs against the AMD cards at this price range mostly in 1440p tbh
"Budget" offering... with 8GB of VRAM, the official minimum requirement for a couple 2023 games already. And all of that for 300 bucks.
A current-gen Ryzen 5 can be had for the same price tag as a Phenom II in 2009. Storage hasn't become massively more expensive either. Nor screens. Nor anything. But GPU makers are on a different level. Even various tech channels have been doing their PR work, in adjusting historical GPU prices for inflation, 1:1. Comparing those prices far more favorably than they have any right to be.
RTX3060 was initially launched with 12GB vram and 192 bit bus speed, I believe its better than the cut down version with 8gb you have comparing here. Hence, 4060 is seen as a downgrade/side-grade outside Frame generation.
outside Frame generation? yeah
and outside DLSS3
and outside much lower Power consumption
and outside AV1 Encoding
and outside Cuda cores for People that wanna play around with AI stuff.
and outside that its newer and will be supported longer
and it doesnt need 192 bus speed, but thats a bit technical.
but it was a disspointing release, especially because the Jump from the previous Card wasnt big, and i would like it to have 12 GB VRAM but it has much more to offer than just Framegen.
Im not a Fan of this Card but i would take it over the 3060 12 GB, and People mostly just jumping on the hate Train.
The 4060ti is a bit harder to defend, especially the 16GB Version.
3 coolers for 115W card is wastage of money.
It's over the top really but as it was the same price as the dual fan seemed worth it.
All this "not bad but too pricey blabla" Yeah we know. And it's the exact same with the rx7600, 4060 vs 7600 is a tie in performance but 4060 can do rt better. But I don't get why run this card at higher than 1080p in modern games.
the price of the rtx4060 and the rx7600 is the same (in my part of the world at least) also don't believe the 3060 12gb can keep up with these cards. It can't in the many tests I have seen.
I need to get an RTX 3060 12GB to really see what, if any, difference there is.
@@TechLabUK I admit the difference is small but the 4060 still takes the lead in multiple tests. This was without using upscaling. it's only like 8% better than 3060 12gb so it's mostly about what older card people got. Like is it worth an upgrade or not
@@The.Crawling.Chaos. I wouldn't say any direct generational upgrade is worth it anymore. Anyone on an older GTX 1060 though would have to weigh them both up together though.
ada is a 60 to 70% ish improvement over ampere in performance and the 4060 is just 18% faster than the 3060 thats why its bad. the 1060 was 70% ish faster than the 960 making it around the 980's performance soo gen on gen the 1060 was great and the 4060 simply is not. its faster than the 3060 but slower than the 3060ti ie not even a tier up in performance. pretty obvious that nvidia decided to take the ada gains to shift tiers by selling weaker gpus for more.
I paid 40% less for a new RX6650xt and it matches a 4060 in all but MS Flight Simulator.....for $299 the 4060 sucks.
It would be better if the price was lower. Just glad it actually performed ok otherwise it would be a total sham.
i would pay 40% Extra to get Nvidia Drivers, they alone are worth it.
i got the RX 6600 after having 2 Nvidia Cards. I sent the 6600 back because it ran ass. In RE4 it wad more frames than my 1060 but it had stutters that made it worse than my 1060, in ROcket League i had hologram effects on my Screen, and other problems.
Friend of mine has a 5700XT, and says AMD has bad drivers and his games are Crashing.
yeah i would pay the 40% extra.
You pay more in your electric bill over time. Look up the power usage of you card during a month.
A card that barely beats the 3060 and has vram is pretty terrible. Is it the worst card they make? No but it is god-awful.
It beats the 3060 up to 20% besides in the few Games that need 12 GBVram. but then you reduce the Texture Settings a bit and its good to go.
People are overly dramatic.
4060 comes with many benefits.
i agree that it should have 12 gb Vram and the Jump could be a bit higher but you are very dramatic.
Garbage
I went from a 1660 super to a 4060ti 16gb for 399 about 6-8 months back and I have zero complaints
When looked at in a vacuum, NO card is terrible. We don't live in a vacuum and this card is HORRENDOUSLY out-classed by Radeons in the same price neighbourhood.
Yeah if you blend out everything beside Rasterization performance.
It's trash when compared to a RX 6700xt with 12gb VRAM that you can pick up for £300
Most definitely yes.
@@TechLabUK 6700 xt is not that great either tbh as it lacks a bunch of stuff, rather get 4060 at this price range.