Absolutely. Platform 10 was the perfect place to spend Saturday morning in 1960-62 and if you knew the way it was possible to bunk 34A via the door by the coal drops. Thanks for producing such an evocative film.
I can’t tell you all the emotions, memories and reminiscences this has given me. Born in 1950, the son of a GER and the LNER signalman, inevitably I had steam in my blood and my dad’s annual allocation of free passes and privilege tickets at my disposal. Short trousers, Ian Allen books, 2 sandwiches and a tuppeny-happeny platform ticket saw me from about the age of 7 or 8 until I was 16, land via Liverpool Street onto the platforms of all the major London termini, my favourite (somewhat biasly in truth) being Kings Cross. Can you imagine an 8 yr old travelling on his own 117 miles from Oulton Broad South (nr Lowestoft) today, including tube travel? For the entire day I’d sit at the platform ends and watch the famous named expresses depart, with my Ian Allen books never closing and with the hope I would be given the chance of being able to ‘cab’ the odd loco. A4s were a joy as they were never seen on the East Anglian lines, unless I ventured as far afield as Peterborough, which I did occasionally. I would relive this period of my life again given the chance, in a heartbeat, irrespective of the short trousers and smut covered clothes and face.
I look back like yourself 1959 at Southall age 10 travelling to Paddington, or in the sheds at Southall climbing on 9f locos no doubt wanting to be scraped , despite seeing the Evening Star pulling passenger trains at 90mph brand new !also Warship class Diesel D800 some times double headed with a steam loco, I also traced on my own to Ashford Kent , I still don’t remember much about the journey, went to see an Aunt and my gran, I don’t know if my mother knew , but remember we had no mobile phones or even phone at home, I cannot think of my grandson doing that today, we must have been very mature for our age, but great memories, my only regret is I could not afford a camera from good old Woolworth at the time, my travel money was raised by returning pop bottles to the local shop for the deposit,we lived in Osterley Park people used to jut dump them , the old soapbox cart was useful for that.fun times, Watford Junction was also another trip out A4s flying down the track! We certainly got around for our age, great video thanks!
Great video to watch, wondered if I would get a 'starring role' standing at the end of platform10! My Grand father was a steward on the Flying Scotsmen & one of my earliest memories was going with him, 1953?, to Kings Cross to walk through the corridor tender on Mallard. My Mother used to commute from Bowes Pk to Farringdon and always called the Hotel Curve tunnel "The Hole" and woe betide any passenger as the N2 climbed up to the sloping platform at Kings X who had left the window down.
Oh, such happy days on platform 10. It was pure drama seeing the departures with wheel spin and gushing steam and smoke. So glad I lived through those times.
Wonderful, I have a particular interest in the Widened Lines so it was fantastic to see footage of N2s and quadarts at Moorgate, complete with the turnover locomotive manoeuvre
As a child watching at the end of platform 10 it puzzled me to see goods traffic emerge from Gasworks Tunnel east and then immediately disappearing into another next to York Way.
A fantastic film, it brought back loads of memories of the early sixties for me when I was a service engineer on both Class 40s and Deltics running there from Leeds Central. A great time !
A great film. I am especially interested in the N2 hauled eight coach suburban trains. These steam suburban services had not been covered at all in the many films I have watched on Kings Cross. Timestamp for the rarely filmed suburban services starting around 7:35.
There's a good video on RUclips where you can see N2s getting cut for scrap at Stratford works in the 1960s. It's called scrapping the old iron horses by Pathe News. Great steam loco recycling action.
Its amazing how watching film like this bring back memories I had long forgotten. Seeing all the smoke brought back traveling in the sash windowed non-corridor carriages and as a boy I would lower the window so I could stick my head out. Inevitably there would be a rebuke "close the window you're letting the smuts in"! Either that or the window would be closed for me. As a boy very frustrating 🤣
I saw these N2's on the underground lines around Kings Cross. Note the large pipes that indicate that these were condensing locos, preventing deterioration of the tunnels through moisture from the chimneys.
Of course, the vantage point at the end of platform 10 was excellent. However, it could be accessed without a platform ticket which added its popularity
As you would expect the vintage views are so much more interesting than the contemporary railway. But you do notice the extraordinary amount of smoke and steam which won't be missed by the neighbours. Of course the modern railway is supposed to be so much more efficient, but who ever wanted an epitaph that read "He led an efficient life"?
Regarding approaches to KIngs X & departures, I remember seeing the former Arsenal Stadiun with its painting of a latge Gun on the side elevation of one of the stands 1966 -
41:49 This Deltic Diesel Locomotive DP1 Is A Bit Like BoCo The Diesel Engine From Thomas The Tank Engine And Friends. Thanks Mate. PS Old School Times Man. XXxxx 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
Great film. O think Train spotting must have been better then. Not just because of steam. But back then they didn't know what locos they'd see. These days they know what locos hauling what train and where it is.
Speaking of standing on a platform at Kings X station, I remember 60 years ago boarding a train there and suddenly there was great activity, porters appeared from everywhere. Why? Harold Wilson, then PM appeared with his entourage and porters in toe, his intenetion to board the same train
Very Interesting but I think 60036 Columbo was Leeds Neville Hill based which usually worked north of , to see it King's Cross would have been a "kop" for many ?
As records go one of the best and well segmented. Peter Townend's book was publ. by Ian Allen and reprinted t least once in 1977. It has many excellent B & W pictures .Film stock and 8mm cameras did not do justice in the 1950s to the clear reality of the scenes once the London Clean Air Act was enforced.
I believe this film was made circa 2004 as it mentions the recent introduction of class 222 on ECML and this was 31st May 2004. The most recent number plate on vehicles shown in the "present" Kings Cross is an "04" plate which rather endorses this. It's a very interesting and professionally produced record of probably our most iconic station.
They lost all the parcels traffic! A major source of revenue for British Railways then, I used to like the vehicles used for this traffic as well, very business like with their four windows aside, the grills over them on the inside
Um are you sure. The inside cylinder ran hot which is why it came off at Peterborough. The bearings were remettaled at New England and it spent a week at Doncaster works being examined further. It was back in traffic 9 days after the record breaking run. Not exactly needing rebuilding?
The main thing i recall was the grime and the deafening sound, even after steam finished it remained fithy for years, it wasn't a very pleasent place to be in all honesty, the romance of steam is really a misnomer, in reality it was disgusting
Although born in 1954, I only saw a limited amount of steam but productions such as this really stir the emotions!! Does anyone else feel this way?
Plenty of people I think!
Brilliant film a testament to are once great country how did we get into the mess we’re in to day so sad !!!!!!!
An unbelievable film of this most sacred place, I enjoyed every minute of it.
Best film of Kings Cross steam days i have seen.
Absolutely. Platform 10 was the perfect place to spend Saturday morning in 1960-62 and if you knew the way it was possible to bunk 34A via the door by the coal drops. Thanks for producing such an evocative film.
I can’t tell you all the emotions, memories and reminiscences this has given me. Born in 1950, the son of a GER and the LNER signalman, inevitably I had steam in my blood and my dad’s annual allocation of free passes and privilege tickets at my disposal. Short trousers, Ian Allen books, 2 sandwiches and a tuppeny-happeny platform ticket saw me from about the age of 7 or 8 until I was 16, land via Liverpool Street onto the platforms of all the major London termini, my favourite (somewhat biasly in truth) being Kings Cross. Can you imagine an 8 yr old travelling on his own 117 miles from Oulton Broad South (nr Lowestoft) today, including tube travel? For the entire day I’d sit at the platform ends and watch the famous named expresses depart, with my Ian Allen books never closing and with the hope I would be given the chance of being able to ‘cab’ the odd loco. A4s were a joy as they were never seen on the East Anglian lines, unless I ventured as far afield as Peterborough, which I did occasionally. I would relive this period of my life again given the chance, in a heartbeat, irrespective of the short trousers and smut covered clothes and face.
Great recollections. Glad you enjoyed it!
I look back like yourself 1959 at Southall age 10 travelling to Paddington, or in the sheds at Southall climbing on 9f locos no doubt wanting to be scraped , despite seeing the Evening Star pulling passenger trains at 90mph brand new !also Warship class Diesel D800 some times double headed with a steam loco, I also traced on my own to Ashford Kent , I still don’t remember much about the journey, went to see an Aunt and my gran, I don’t know if my mother knew , but remember we had no mobile phones or even phone at home, I cannot think of my grandson doing that today, we must have been very mature for our age, but great memories, my only regret is I could not afford a camera from good old Woolworth at the time, my travel money was raised by returning pop bottles to the local shop for the deposit,we lived in Osterley Park people used to jut dump them , the old soapbox cart was useful for that.fun times, Watford Junction was also another trip out A4s flying down the track! We certainly got around for our age, great video thanks!
Loved seeing this video ? Would go back to those times in a heartbeat 😂 💓
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Socially, yes I agree. Healthwise, no way!!!
No thanks!
An incredible video of my favorite line and its southern terminus. Oh i wish I could spend one more day watching these fine locos on the ECML.
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Kings cross excellent footage thanks Tony Simpson
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What a fabulous historical account. There are so many comments that could be made - better simply to enjoy it. Thank you for posting.
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Great video to watch, wondered if I would get a 'starring role' standing at the end of platform10! My Grand father was a steward on the Flying Scotsmen & one of my earliest memories was going with him, 1953?, to Kings Cross to walk through the corridor tender on Mallard. My Mother used to commute from Bowes Pk to Farringdon and always called the Hotel Curve tunnel "The Hole" and woe betide any passenger as the N2 climbed up to the sloping platform at Kings X who had left the window down.
Wow, great memories.
Incredibly enjoyable. One of the best "steam age" films I've seen. Thanks for making and sharing it.
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Amazing film. Not normally invested in British railway documentaries. But this is a really good one, thanks for sharing .
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Excellent and informative video, really enjoyed seeing Kings Cross steam again. Thank you very much
Great memories from my serious train spotting days from Jonny happily abiding for many years in Australia.
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Oh, such happy days on platform 10. It was pure drama seeing the departures with wheel spin and gushing steam and smoke. So glad I lived through those times.
Absolutely Brilliant
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Wonderful, I have a particular interest in the Widened Lines so it was fantastic to see footage of N2s and quadarts at Moorgate, complete with the turnover locomotive manoeuvre
Quaint arts.
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@@John900C There's a quad arts set on the North Norfolk Railway in normal service.
As a child watching at the end of platform 10 it puzzled me to see goods traffic emerge from Gasworks Tunnel east and then immediately disappearing into another next to York Way.
Great terrific to see the older days.
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Excellent! Many thanks for sharing this 🚂🎥🙏👍🇬🇧🐈⬛
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what an amazing video, thank you so much for sharing
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Thank you for posting. A wonderful piece of film.
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A fantastic film, it brought back loads of memories of the early sixties for me when I was a service engineer on both Class 40s and Deltics running there from Leeds Central. A great time !
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A great film.
I am especially interested in the N2 hauled eight coach suburban trains. These steam suburban services had not been covered at all in the many films I have watched on Kings Cross.
Timestamp for the rarely filmed suburban services starting around 7:35.
There's a good video on RUclips where you can see N2s getting cut for scrap at Stratford works in the 1960s. It's called scrapping the old iron horses by Pathe News. Great steam loco recycling action.
@@PreservationEnthusiast close, those were N7s, the Great Eastern cousin to the Great Northern N2
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31:09 GREAT SCOTT. It's Mallard. Happy Christmas Mate. XXxxx 🎄 🇬🇧🇦🇺🇺🇲
And to you!
Its amazing how watching film like this bring back memories I had long forgotten. Seeing all the smoke brought back traveling in the sash windowed non-corridor carriages and as a boy I would lower the window so I could stick my head out. Inevitably there would be a rebuke "close the window you're letting the smuts in"! Either that or the window would be closed for me. As a boy very frustrating 🤣
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This is great stuff. Interesting to see Moorgate not built over and the platforms in the open air.
I loved this film
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Very nice. Brings back memories.
30:52 This LNER Gresley Streamlined A4 Pacific Sliver Fox Is A Bit Like Mallard. Thanks Mate. XXxxx 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
You're welcome.
The Mallard and the Silver Fox are part of the A4 class of locomotives
I saw these N2's on the underground lines around Kings Cross.
Note the large pipes that indicate that these were condensing locos, preventing deterioration of the tunnels through moisture from the chimneys.
57:55 Great Scotland Yard. It's LNER Gresley A3 Pacific No.4472 Flying Scotsman. Thanks Mate. XXxxx 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
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I used to go train spotting at Kings Cross so wonderful memories for me.
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Of course, the vantage point at the end of platform 10 was excellent. However, it could be accessed without a platform ticket which added its popularity
Excellent+
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Excellent
Thank you!
Amazing film there. Like the Brit No. 70040 Clive of India, a Immingham based loco, departing from the Cross bound for Cleethorpes
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As you would expect the vintage views are so much more interesting than the contemporary railway. But you do notice the extraordinary amount of smoke and steam which won't be missed by the neighbours. Of course the modern railway is supposed to be so much more efficient, but who ever wanted an epitaph that read "He led an efficient life"?
Just a reminder Mrs Wilberforce house above Gasworks Tunnel in The Lady killers was a prop.
Regarding approaches to KIngs X & departures, I remember seeing the former Arsenal Stadiun with its painting of a latge Gun on the side elevation of one of the stands 1966 -
41:49 This Deltic Diesel Locomotive DP1 Is A Bit Like BoCo The Diesel Engine From Thomas The Tank Engine And Friends. Thanks Mate. PS Old School Times Man. XXxxx 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
Metrovick type 2s did briefly make an appearance at Kings Cross while covering the Moorgate services during a delay on Sulzer type 2 availability
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Great film. O think Train spotting must have been better then. Not just because of steam. But back then they didn't know what locos they'd see. These days they know what locos hauling what train and where it is.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Speaking of standing on a platform at Kings X station, I remember 60 years ago boarding a train there and suddenly there was great activity, porters appeared from everywhere. Why? Harold Wilson, then PM appeared with his entourage and porters in toe, his intenetion to board the same train
The engine shed master is great .
Very Interesting but I think 60036 Columbo was Leeds Neville Hill based which usually worked north of , to see it King's Cross would have been a "kop" for many ?
As records go one of the best and well segmented. Peter Townend's book was publ. by Ian Allen and reprinted t least once in 1977. It has many excellent B & W pictures .Film stock and 8mm cameras did not do justice in the 1950s to the clear reality of the scenes once the London Clean Air Act was enforced.
Glad you enjoyed it!
42:09 Which muppet in the sound department put Class 40 engine sounds over a bloody Deltic?! 😂
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Mrs Wilberforce sent me... 🙂
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She who outwits Alec Guinness and co.
When was this program made? I could not see a date.
Early 1990s I think.
@locoshed1977 Thanks. I really enjoyed it.
I believe this film was made circa 2004 as it mentions the recent introduction of class 222 on ECML and this was 31st May 2004. The most recent number plate on vehicles shown in the "present" Kings Cross is an "04" plate which rather endorses this. It's a very interesting and professionally produced record of probably our most iconic station.
They lost all the parcels traffic! A major source of revenue for British Railways then, I used to like the vehicles used for this traffic as well, very business like with their four windows aside, the grills over them on the inside
Yep, I remember them well!
…’ it flew down Stoke Bank at 126 miles per hour’….it needed rebuilding afterwards though, and it was going downhill!!
Um are you sure. The inside cylinder ran hot which is why it came off at Peterborough. The bearings were remettaled at New England and it spent a week at Doncaster works being examined further. It was back in traffic 9 days after the record breaking run. Not exactly needing rebuilding?
The main thing i recall was the grime and the deafening sound, even after steam finished it remained fithy for years, it wasn't a very pleasent place to be in all honesty, the romance of steam is really a misnomer, in reality it was disgusting
And now they want electric cars too... mtfkrs