It's been decades since I last soldered anything, but seeing that soldering furnace took me right back to the early 70's & Jr High metal shop. We has the same furnaces & it feels like just yesterday that I was learning all those skills that aren't revered as they once were. I think that the skilled from metal shop, wood shop, & drafting are more important than ever, now that these classes aren't being offered as much as they once were. Not just for the skills, but the life lessons that we got alone the way.
It's been a long time since I've soldered galvanized. My introduction to metal was when I was 5... we were visiting a friend/relative who owned a heating and air-conditioning shop. Naturally they had rollers, box and pan brake, cutters, etc. I walked in and didn't know what everything was. He taught me how to make a funnel... with handle... soldered on. I mean... he had ME make it... every piece. I learned more that day than most people learn in a week... got me started making things.
Another blast from the past. I learned to solder from my Dad when I was 11 years old. In his case he was a radio and T repair guy so soldering with him was wires on terminals. Then in the mid 1980's as a carpenter we would occasionally solder our roof flashings when we had a particular risky spot trying to keep water out. In that case we used a very mild muriatic acid and a bar of solder. Instead of an iron we used a propane torch while clinging to a roof on a house. Great video Mr. Pete.
Mr. Pete, Thank you for the flash back. I made a galvanized pan in shop class in high school some 30+ years ago. I still have it and use it. I keeps parts in it when I'm repairing vehicles, etc. It's because of the shop classes in school and the teachers like yourself that I am able to do all the many things that I can do. Thank you! Larry
When in Jr. high school shop class one phase of it was sheet metal shop. We used the little furnaces to heat the irons and we too used Salammoniac. The mention of it in your video was the first I've heard anyone talk about it since those days.
Your "rambling on" is both entertaining and educational. I enjoy hearing your rants and side notes. Being 40 something I have a lot I can learn form someone of your age and experience. Thank you.
Great flash back! All the skills I learned 50 years ago starting in 7th grade industrial arts class soldering, welding, drafting, wood working as you have shown I have used all my life personally and in my job as a heavy equipment mechanic. Most all the projects I did in school I still have and use to this day. Even my daughter learned skills in Industrial arts and made me a custom tool box I used in every mechanic's truck I ever had. Kids, put away the cell phones and learn the basics, they'll be with you a life time and you won't be embarrassed when you have to call and pay someone to do basic repairs and projects. Thanks Mr. Pete Ed K. Cleve. Oh. Class of 1970
What a great detailed videos on soldering. It has been more than 40 years since I soldered but the lessons my Dad and Uncle taught me all came back watching.
Don't worry for running long or for going off topic. I just love that :-) Your videos are VERY informative. Even if I don't have to do the exact same thing, I pick up a lot from your methods and approach alone. I can't thank you enough for sharing your huge knowledge with us all. Big greetings from Soren, Denmark, Europe.
No we haven't left. We are watching the complete video. I know this is one of your older videos you published, but its new to me. I'm 42 years old so i'm old enough to remember some of the techniques you demonstrate. I'm a field construction Boilermaker with 20 years in the field in the NW Indiana/Chicago land area. i remember soldering with the irons and the small furnace you showed at the beginning of your video. Man o man does that bring back memories. I took metal shop class and 2 years of vocational welding class in high school. Those classes and gentlemen like yourself taught guys like me the beginnings of the trade and others that i'm currently in. THANK YOU for that. Don't think that your videos are not being watched because they are. As silly as it sounds i was dissapointed when you said you were not going to show the soldering of the other corners. I'm glad you showed them. Keep it up Mr Pete. haha you remind me of my high school shop class teacher and him hollering at me when i deserved it. These kids nowadays are in trouble. No desire to learn a trade that has giving me so much in life. I'm a high school grad with no college degree making 100k+ a year just because i listened to guys like yourself in those shop classes. Those kids don't realize there being handed a opportunity of a lifetime, and all they have to do is shut up and listen. Keep up the good work Mr. Pete you have an audience. Bless You Sir!
Thank you very much. I am glad you like the videos. I'm glad you liked your high school shop classes. It really paid off for you. You are right the kids do not want to learn any of that.
Always enjoy your video's. Don't put yourself down because of rambling. Makes for a more interesting video. Thanks for sharing information like you do.
Thankyou for that bit on soldering acids. My father was a third generation plumber/sheetmetal worker. Working with him i learned how to make Copper roof pans and we actually did a lot of lead coated copper. He rarely soldered steels, only for small home repair. Galvy is something he never showed me. I do not believe one ever really understands his fathers knowledge till he isn't around to ask, we lost him 5 years ago. In regards to the present problem of these "smart" devices; I believe many young people will not discover the rewards associated with repairing, re-purposing, and creating useful items for everyday. This too shall pass, unfortunately at the cost of ones independence. When used appropriately this technology helps me solve problems every day, combined with our past knowledge one can truly accomplish a tremendous amount these days. The best way to combat this is exactly what you are doing, thanks and be well!
Rambling on or reminiscing is one of the things we tune in for mrpete so please keep it up. I can understand why your going back to school was a culture shock. Its the same in the UK schools. I doubt if we will produce another scientist of any note from the bunch of miscreants in education these days. regards from the UK
I work with high school kids in the Robotics club. They're incredible, hard working and smart, and the seniors are very excited to move on to engineering. Our kids from the last 5 years are everywhere from working in machine shops to graduating and getting jobs in engineering fields. Like any other group of people, you only tend to see the bad ones. There have always been bad ones and there always will be. The good ones are there, they're just not calling attention to themselves.
John Ridley While you have a need for engineers, they just simply don't have the practical experience to cut chips off to the correct dimensions. As much as we need engineers, we need machinist to to produce the products created by engineers.
So you missed the part where I said that some of our students went on to work in machine shops. Robotics teams trains people in everything from marketing to using a lathe. One student tried welding for the first time in robotics, loved it, and he's now in trade school for a career in welding. The big problem is not the students but the adults. Look at any new school built recently. Even here in SE Michigan where manufacturing has been king for decades, they're not building shops. They say "our kids are all going to be white collar 'knowledge workers' so we don't need to build shops." Then the kids who want to do things like that with their lives don't have the opportunity to learn and they get bored and idle.
Mr. Pete, when I was teaching, I had a big bucket of water and written down rule. If you leave your cell phone on the bench and it rings and I get to it first, it's going for a swim. Funny thing, I only every had one 'swimmer'. Keep sharing, it's always a joy to watch and listen.
I enjoyed that Mr. Pete. I've made a good number of sheet metal items over the years. Even made my living at it for about, 20 of those years. Glad to see you tucked the tabs under the folds. Looks much neater. Galvalume, is hard to spot weld too. It tears little bits of copper off of the welder tips.
Thanks Mr Pete, Sheet metal class was one of my favorite in general metals, back in the 70"s. My shop teacher always insisted on us quickly wiping the solder joint with a wet rag. It always steamed. He wanted us to clean all the acid off with the rag. One day I cut myself with some sheet metal and the shop teacher excitedly ran me over to the sink and applied green soap to the wound before he sent me to the school nurse.
In the mid '50s, I watched a new house getting its galvanized eavestrough. All they used was gutter and downpipe. All corners and downjoints were cut and made- no prefab stuff. There was a gas fired furnace bigger than yours, and the irons were big. Full runs with corners were measured, fabricated and hoisted up in one piece. Very few joints were made at height. Ends were made from flatstock. One fellow, perhaps amused at my intent interest explained that when nailing the trough, the spike and ferrule must be angled UP from the front to back(fascia) to prevent rain from running along the fastener to rot the wood. I liked your Bass autopsy video- trying to kill it was lol. Thank you for your video work!
Great video Mr Pete. Brought back memories of shop class back in the 60's when I made a dust pan and funnel for my dad. No chaos from the kids back then. Anarchists would first get it from the teacher and then really get it from father. How depressing, those little mutations with the cell phones will be running the country in a few years. Hard to believe we will be looking back to today as the good old days.
Thanks, Mr. Pete. Your skills are most definitely not waning. Your subscribers, like night school students, are way more motivated to learn than most kids. Five years from now, some of those kids will be banging their heads trying to remember what they never listened to. If they develop any brains in the interim, they'll be sitting right next to us "in class". Tom
Love your videos Mr Pete! You have found your calling as a teacher right here my friend. Your class room has nearly 100,000 people in it and all of them are on the edge of their seat eager to learn!
Lyle, Thanks for a great video, and trip down memory lane. We soldered galvanized in metals class back in the 80's, if i remember correctly we made a funnel and perhaps another project. Back then I believe that the industrial arts were considered preparation for real life trade work that would support a family. Today I am sure all the kids are convinced they are far above such work. How times change!
Thicker galvanized steel (10ga. and above) can be easily and safely welded using 7014 rod or 211 flux core wire. As with any welding, have good ventilation and avoid the welding fume plume. We have made thousands of these welds in the construction of solar power plants. Thanks Mr. Pete for the great videos.
I have a galvanized drip pan leaking under my attic air conditioner condenser. In order to slip it under two sides have to be flat, unsoldered, then the corner has to be soldered in the attic, otherwise I have to jack up the condenser etc.. So this video is FANTASTIC and fortuitous for me and I thank you for keeping knowledge of craft alive!
I worked for a commercial roofer 20ish years ago. I worked in the shop cutting and forming whatever they needed for the roof they were working on. I made a lot of scuppers for flat roofs that would need soldered and we used muriatic acid to clean and then draw the solder into the joint. Great video and content. I too like the banter.
Interesting soldering lesson. I am 70 and never have tried to solder galvanized as far as I can remember. I have soldered lots of other things. I remember back when they made automobile radiators from metal that was most often the thing I would solder. One of the hazards of second hand cars. Thanks for the video.
I wish you wouldn't be concerned about reminiscing about the past. It's one of the major reasons I enjoy watching your Channel so much. Not to mention all that I've learned from you. Don't change a thing! P.S. I also enjoyed watching the dismemberment of the fish.
I remember my father soldering galvanized eaves trough for our old house when I was a boy. He used a blow torch to heat the iron. Not too many years later we were taught sheet metal work and soldering in our high school Industrial Arts class. Thanks for the refresher.
I remember making a toolbox similar to the one you shown but the handle was still galvanized folded some way for more strength. However, it was soldered. And we used the copper tipped irons that were placed in the furnace for heating. I started typing this midway through the video and was going to ask about the white blocks that we used to clean the tips with... and you covered it. This was in high school so yeah, furnaces, hot copper irons and a white block that creates lots of smoke was a situation ripe for hijinks!
I loved your video! I also enjoy the commentary that sometimes ventures into thinly related areas... such as today’s classroom. I retired from the Marines 10-years ago and immediately started teaching JROTC at a public high school. I pride myself on adapting and overcoming to accomplish a mission.... needless to say, it takes a lot of both!!! Heck, I’m still adapting! I am so happy you have these videos! I watch and learn from them daily. Keep up the great work! Mark
Hi Lloyd, I worked a lot with Galv. in both sheet and pipe. I have arc welded untold pounds or 7013 rod attaching 5/16" and 3/8" plates to the bottom of sch40 galv pipe over the last 42 years. I have also soldered a lot of galv sheet much like you have done in your video. I do like to wash the galv off the part where I am forming my joint with muriatic acid and then a neutral wash afterwards. a shallow plastic pan just large enough to dip the end of the pipe into works quite well or and acid brush also. when dipping the acid works quite fast on the galv. The area will foam for a few seconds and that's all it takes and the galv is gone. After arc welding the part will be plenty hot even after removing the flux and a quick wire brushing that I can still melt zink over the weld for protection. There is also cold galv that can be sprayed or brushed on like paint. I hear you loud and clear about the kids in school today. Well thank for another fine video. Joe
Thanks for another instructional and entertaining video. The 200 watt soldering iron is surely easier to use than the old type that was heated with a blow torch. We oldsters had a good time with tools and making useful items while the youngsters of today spend so much of their time staring into their phones. Please keep the videos coming.
I really enjoy and learn from your videos, thanks for the effort. Your so called rambling and topic excursions adds to my learning experience. I don't know any young people that have interest in the trades and one day we will have lost the skills.
Mr Pete, I've soldered steel but never galvanized. Thanks for demonstrating the difference. I work part time in a BOCES school and I know just what you mean about the chaos. If today's kids showed up at my high school, they wouldn't have let them in the door.
One point that I didn't see you make is that the solder will flow *towards* the heat... Very useful in conjunction with the capillary action in "sweating" a joint. Another technique that is useful in difficult joints - use it all the time with copper water pipe - is to tin the surfaces to be joined with a thin film of solder first, make the dry fit - with a thin layer of flux - then heat the joint... That 40/60 solder has more tin and less lead than the more common 60/40 - the numbers correspond to the rough values for the % by weight of lead first, then tin. Lead melts at a lower temperature, which is nice for assembly, but is weaker mechanically. The other trick with the differing compositions is that you can do an assembly in stages, working from higher melting alloys to cooler melting. Also - I'm rambling as well! - I still remember the "fun" we had plumbing a new water supply for my house, using the first generation of lead-free solders. Even with a MAPP gas torch, that stuff wouldn't "wet" like the old lead solders... The newer solders and fluxes aren't quite so bad... Those big old soldering irons are neat, but not so readily available these days. The good news is that you can get propane and MAPP gas torches at the hardware store... The bad news is that you need to be even more careful when using a torch to not set something on fire or create unsafe fumes in your working area. Finally, it must be the relatively high humidity in your region which leads to so *much* corrosion from the acid fluxes... I've seen some messy, rusty old stuff out here, but evidently Southern California is a relative desert - more so than I knew... Thanks for an interesting fabrication video! Eric
Reminds me on the summer I spent working for a sheet metal company that made dust collection systems. I must have riveted and soldered about a mile of pipe, elbows and ductwork. I still have a #2 Pexto rivet set in one of my toolboxes that I run across from time to time. Watching your show brought back the smell of the hot sal ammoniac. If the solder crystallizes, it might be a little cold, as I recall it should be shiny or glossy. Might be from old galvanizing too, all our sheet metal came in fresh. Takes lots of heat to keep all that metal hot enough and long enough. Thanks!
Great video; I've not soldered like this for a few years, but we were taught at college and it has come in handy a couple of times. I totally agree with you about the distractions students have today, we would never have been allowed purely on safety grounds and I'm only going back to the 80's here.
Always a pleasure to hang out in the shop with you,, like learning from a master,, someday I hope to be able to afford the courses you offer as I was not smart enough to take them in school i have acquired an old atlas lathe 9 inch and slowly getting to the point where i can try making chips, and hope to someday after bring my son up to speed on some shop arts,, Thank You for everything you do for for the community in the way of videos!
Thanks Mr. Pete...I really learned a lot with this. As a High School teacher, I KNOW what you mean with how things have changed! Makes me want to retire sooner than I anticipate. JI watched Billy Bass too. H
Most excellent presentation. So little information is presented on soldering. Great addition to provide realistic way to create leak proof tray for the shop. Thank you!
I worked in an architectural sheet metal shop for 10 years and probably soldered tens of thousands of feet of galv flashings. All you need is plain old muriatic (swimming pool) acid. We used old propane solder pots and 4 lb coppers. They came in pairs (2lb each) so you always had one in the fire ready to go. To keep the sal-amoniac block from crumbling we made a casing out of sheet lead, soldered the corners & left the top open. When you cleaned your coppers on it and the block wore away, so did the lead. Dissolved sal-ammoniac in water makes a great dip to clean the copper right after you pull it from the fire to solder. A quick dunk of the tip leaves the tinned surface bright & shiny, that is, unless you left it in the fire too long & burnt it. Then you had to let it cool, file to bare copper & re-tin. To solder plain steel, stainless, copper or brass you make killed (or cut) acid by adding small pieces of zinc to the muriatic until it won't dissolve any more. Love your vids!
I work in the maintenance shops of a steel mill now & I'm the only sheet metal journeyman. Don't do much soldering anymore but when I do I get a big crowd of mechanics watching as I fire up the old Clayton & Lambert gasoline blowtorch and go to town with my coppers. I get a kick looking at their befuddled expressions! One more tip… always keep a wet rag handy in a bucket of water so you don't have to wait forever for the solder to harden. Plus the water will rinse off the acid right away. Hope this helps. Keep up the excellent videos!
Great video sir. I feel your pain when dealing with the younger generation.lol. I wonder if my dad or former teachers felt frustration..lol My comment is directed towards the Weller 8200 gun. I was a tv service tech for 20 yrs in my former life. This was back in the days of Zenith ( and everyone else ) featured hand wired chassis. Back then TVs were actually tested,diagnosed,disassembled and repaired, instead of changing out 300 parts on a board. The copper loop tip assembled upside down was very handy to keep heat from burning insulation,plastics,Bakelite,etc. I maintained a couple of guns with tips in both positions. I loved the gun since I could make custom tips like small gage wire for tiny projects like jewelry....ahhh....the memories.......Alas...I too digress and blather,,,but I'm harmless,,,good day sir.
Great video Mr P, I read the comments and like me they all reflect my thought, which is the rambling and off the cuff rants are why I like the videos so much. I worked in a car bodyshop in the 70s and we had a box folder - I spent so many lunchtimes making things we also had a spot welder which was a great tool for bare steel - haven't used one in forty years so would love to see a video when you have time. Kind Regards Garry from the UK (The English Bit)
Good stuff. I haven't done anything like that since I was in 8th grade shop class and made a galvanized steel dust pan My mother still uses it, and she's 92. So I guess you could say that both of them (mom and the pan) have held up well. And I did see your tear-down of the carp, but I'm glad you haven't torn down Woody. Keep an eye on him, he can be a real help in the shop.
Great video as always. I always learn something new. I wish there were garage sales in Scotland like you have in America. Keep the videos coming, especially the lathe/ mill projects.
I'm so glad you posted this video. I had no idea you could solder galvanized steel. I'm sorry some of your videos don't get many views. I like them all.
Another entertaining video. I never knew the name of that white stuff I used in 1968-1969 High School Electricity and Electronics shop class to clean off the carbon and tin the tip of the soldering Iron. It worked very well but I never ran across the stuff again in my 40 plus year career in electronics. Well now I know the name, Sal Ammoniac, thanks.
I started high school in 1961 and the first thing we did in metalwork, was to make a cake cutter out of tin plate. Bending, rolling and soldering. I did OK at this, as my grandfather was a welder and had already started to teach me these skills. We used to use a soldering flux, called Baker's Fluid, which was basically Zinc Chloride, which was made bu adding Zinc to Hydrochloric Acid, until it would take no more. This was also called "Killed Spirits of Salts". Later in life, we would solder galvanised iron, using diluted Hydrochloric acid, which converted to Zinc chloride and fluxed the surface. Hope this is of interest to people.
Always a treat to get into the coffee fueled way back machine and see you do things that are not very commonly done today. As a kid I remember seeing galvanized gutters installed. Fairly exciting seeing the hot irons or gasoline fired blow torches going up the ladder. Sorry that the substitute teaching was not enjoyable. Just can't expect the kids to have the maturity to understand that they had a very special teacher from whom they might learn some very interesting things in what we might call "real time."
I am also among those that enjoy your "rambling"! I think I may have one of those old soldering coppers around the house somewhere, no stove to go with it, though. I remember my dad telling me that his father would put the copper in the water heater burner to heat it up. I would've never thought to use an electric iron on sheet metal, I'd have probably used a small propane torch.
Great video! ...and don't hold back on your commentary on modern education. More folks need to hear that things are far different than from when they were in school.
Rekindle memory's , I tried to remember the last thing i used solder on, other than wire, I believe it was a radiator that had a seam leak on a crawler i used to work on ! Thank for the memory's !
Top stuff again Mr Pete, you can paint galvanised as long as you nuetralise the galvanising with vinegar, mixed 5 to 1 with water, works quite well for me. Cheers, keep up the good work.
I used to fix gas tanks by soldering a penny over the hole left by rust. After thorough cleaning, of course. We ran car exhaust through the tank to purge the air, other wise... KABOOM!
it sure is good to see the basic's I'm glad I was taught these skill's in school way back in 76-77 keep um coming there all good PS loved the FORD tour
My sheet metal/soldering project in HS (1971) was making a funnel. Used a formula for layout, then cut and rolled the metal, then soldered the joints. Remember the soldering being the most difficult operation. Still have the funnel by the way.
I learned just like that people now days don't know how to do anything like that anymore. I've got to build a chip pan for my Atlas QC42 I just brought back to life.
I love soldering! I discovered Ruby Fluid at a yard sale years ago. That’s some strong flux and when you put the iron to the joint, I could feel my eyes burn from the fumes.
Enjoyed the video; Thanks. The clear soldering liquid is Zinc Chloride which is made by reacting zinc with hydrochloric acid. Excess zinc is reacted to make sure that all the acid is reacted. Also the Sal Ammoniac when dissolve in water makes a good flux for soldering galvanized steel and plain steel.
A slight crease on each diagonal will give the sheet metal extra rigidity The soldering iron works best to heat the part, the solder will flow to the heat
right...heat the part.....I learned how to solder when I was about 5......my Dad was Electrical engineer in the Army....so I learned all kinds of stuff at a young age....and.....I still see 'experts' here on youtube that put a lot of solder on the iron...then try to 'carry' it to the work....both electronic and sheet metal stuff....
Hello Mister Pete: Your video on soldering galvanized reminds me that it's been over 50 years since my last bottle of acid flux hit the trash can. I now use "Nokorode" paste for ungalvanized steel, brass, etc. Rosin core for electronics, of course. If we'd had cellphones, iPods, etc. when I was a kid going to school, we'd have been slapped silly. As it was, even without the gadgets, I got slapped silly a LOT! I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work! :-)
+mrpete222: I remember using Nokorode when I was a kid when I helped Dad when he did electrical wiring. My job was to keep the blowtorch pumped-up and keep the irons hot and tinned. I ran out a couple of years ago and thought the stuff was unobtanium. Took a chance in McMaster-Carr and there it was! I'm now set for life.
2 thumbs up Mr. Peterson...I have a South Bend 10 K Gag Bed bench lathe I bought new from the factory in the early 70's (machinist 42+ years)...I never got around to making a chip pan...so now I will.....My only complaint about the lathe is that South Bend could not offer me hardened bed-ways because of problems with the heating/hardening accuracy with the gap section..Oh well, I still love working it...again thanks....LYLE 4 PRESIDENT !!!!!.....jm
The reason people tell you not to file soldering iron tips is many tips today are plated with iron. They're plated so they do not erode so quickly. So when you file those tips you remove the protective plating. But if your tip is pure copper then file away to your hearts content. Great video BTW I stayed until the end.
+mrpete222 you bet, He was my woods and drafting instructor. He also was a personal friend of my fathers. Carol Doerner was the metals and welding instructor.
Another useful video, thanks! I'll add - when you read "instructions" for soldering, they often say apply solder to the joint, not the iron. True but apply some to the iron while on the joint first, because it transfers heat better. Also try flux or acid core solder, works a trick.
Nice job on the chip pan! Ive learned alot from your videos as I did this one! I really hope you decide to dissect Woody because I thought the Billy The Big Mouth Bass video was hilarious!!! Cant wait for the next video! Thanks Tubalcain!
Those of us without access to large sheet metal brakes use baking sheets for pull-out drip pans. Another useful idea is to cut one side of a driveway drip pan and sandwich it between the lathe bed and the lathe bench or stand (drilled for through-bolting.) My Logan is set up this way, and it makes it easy to clean oil and chiips that miss the removable drip pan.
Thanks for this video ! Old time techniques work wonders but the unfortunate problem is ; they get forgotten ... Therefore, your tutorial is precious ... as well as your old time humour btw ;P Great stuff, Y
G'day Lyle, I just purchased one of those brass gasoline/kerosene blowtorches 2 days ago, it came with a set of the wooden handle coppers, I'd never seen one before, when I got it home I repaired the plunger with a new leather cup. it burns fantastic and puts out a lot of heat
I have used a spot welder for years on galvanized. And I only use rosin core solder but I usually flux with ruby fluid. My mentor had adapted his spot welder years ago with replaceable tips long before they were commercially made. BTW, ruby fluid is available from McMaster Carr with a plastic lids now. I always rinse the solder joint with hot soapy water and a little baking soda to neutrallize the acid.
I used to use Rwby fluid quite often. I do not remember if I showed it in the video you are watching. And yes, it was very corrosive, which made it work well. I tried to neutralize it best I could in the manner you suggested.
Hi, Lyle I quit teaching in the public schools almost twenty years ago, hear in California. The main reason that I quit was because there was no discipline in the school, and the least disciplined people there, were the administrators !!! They won't follow the district or their own rules, and when I would enforce them, I was criticized by everyone, parent student, and principal alike. I came into teaching from the metalworking, and automotive trades, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that our country will suffer because of a lack of industrial education. It already is, because of the lack of qualified technicians in all the trades. I returned to the trades, and I still feel like I abandoned the students that really wanted to get an education. It was simply a case of my mental health, and professionalism. We know what is right, and we can not do anything less. Keep on doing just what you are doing, it's perfect. I refer a lot of young folks to your channel, and they are learning from you. Just remember, were not old, just well seasoned !!! Yes !!! I am still the Shop Teacher at heart . Tim
Thanks for the vid! I have Mig welded galvanized material with good results. Just need to be careful, don't breath it in, and have good ventilation. Also have to clean the weld area very good. Basically your taking most of the zinc off in those spots. Again, you have to think about safety but it's more than doable.
I've learned that zinc and Iron builds a alloy on the contact surfaces. That alloy has a very high melting point. Higher than iron if I'm correct. This makes it nearly impossible to weld. I've soldered may boxes from galvanized steel plates and in my experience the best way is to use soldering paste with solder in it. It's a gray paste. Put it on, press the parts together and heat it up gently with a small blowtorch then use a little bit of Solder to fill up gaps. Worked great for me. The liquid flux stuff is hard to get to the places you want it to go if you have complex shapes put together.
It sounded as if you were intimidated by those kids. If so I know how older people feel being around youngsters today. I do not think it was this way years ago, I really wish you would relay these experiences you had. Thanks for all your videos.
I love your videos and especially the side-tracking. I'm all for watching you operate on Woody! I use Sal Ammoniac in making stained glass windows and a similar looking liquid to that flux so as to blacken the leading on Tiffany-style stained glass. Keep on entertaining us with more videos like these please! All the best from Hertfordshire, UK.
It's been decades since I last soldered anything, but seeing that soldering furnace took me right back to the early 70's & Jr High metal shop. We has the same furnaces & it feels like just yesterday that I was learning all those skills that aren't revered as they once were. I think that the skilled from metal shop, wood shop, & drafting are more important than ever, now that these classes aren't being offered as much as they once were. Not just for the skills, but the life lessons that we got alone the way.
It's been a long time since I've soldered galvanized. My introduction to metal was when I was 5... we were visiting a friend/relative who owned a heating and air-conditioning shop. Naturally they had rollers, box and pan brake, cutters, etc. I walked in and didn't know what everything was. He taught me how to make a funnel... with handle... soldered on. I mean... he had ME make it... every piece. I learned more that day than most people learn in a week... got me started making things.
Another blast from the past. I learned to solder from my Dad when I was 11 years old. In his case he was a radio and T repair guy so soldering with him was wires on terminals. Then in the mid 1980's as a carpenter we would occasionally solder our roof flashings when we had a particular risky spot trying to keep water out. In that case we used a very mild muriatic acid and a bar of solder. Instead of an iron we used a propane torch while clinging to a roof on a house. Great video Mr. Pete.
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Mr. Pete,
Thank you for the flash back. I made a galvanized pan in shop class in high school some 30+ years ago. I still have it and use it. I keeps parts in it when I'm repairing vehicles, etc. It's because of the shop classes in school and the teachers like yourself that I am able to do all the many things that I can do.
Thank you!
Larry
When in Jr. high school shop class one phase of it was sheet metal shop. We used the little furnaces to heat the irons and we too used Salammoniac. The mention of it in your video was the first I've heard anyone talk about it since those days.
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Your "rambling on" is both entertaining and educational. I enjoy hearing your rants and side notes. Being 40 something I have a lot I can learn form someone of your age and experience. Thank you.
Great flash back! All the skills I learned 50 years ago starting in 7th grade industrial arts class soldering, welding, drafting, wood working as you have shown I have used all my life personally and in my job as a heavy equipment mechanic. Most all the projects I did in school I still have and use to this day. Even my daughter learned skills in Industrial arts and made me a custom tool box I used in every mechanic's truck I ever had. Kids, put away the cell phones and learn the basics, they'll be with you a life time and you won't be embarrassed when you have to call and pay someone to do basic repairs and projects. Thanks Mr. Pete Ed K. Cleve. Oh. Class of 1970
What a great detailed videos on soldering. It has been more than 40 years since I soldered but the lessons my Dad and Uncle taught me all came back watching.
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Don't worry for running long or for going off topic. I just love that :-) Your videos are VERY informative. Even if I don't have to do the exact same thing, I pick up a lot from your methods and approach alone. I can't thank you enough for sharing your huge knowledge with us all. Big greetings from Soren, Denmark, Europe.
Nice Job Mr Pete how many people didnt know how it was done till you took the time and effort to educate all of us Thanks Mr Pete!
No we haven't left. We are watching the complete video. I know this is one of your older videos you published, but its new to me. I'm 42 years old so i'm old enough to remember some of the techniques you demonstrate. I'm a field construction Boilermaker with 20 years in the field in the NW Indiana/Chicago land area. i remember soldering with the irons and the small furnace you showed at the beginning of your video. Man o man does that bring back memories. I took metal shop class and 2 years of vocational welding class in high school. Those classes and gentlemen like yourself taught guys like me the beginnings of the trade and others that i'm currently in. THANK YOU for that. Don't think that your videos are not being watched because they are. As silly as it sounds i was dissapointed when you said you were not going to show the soldering of the other corners. I'm glad you showed them. Keep it up Mr Pete. haha you remind me of my high school shop class teacher and him hollering at me when i deserved it. These kids nowadays are in trouble. No desire to learn a trade that has giving me so much in life. I'm a high school grad with no college degree making 100k+ a year just because i listened to guys like yourself in those shop classes. Those kids don't realize there being handed a opportunity of a lifetime, and all they have to do is shut up and listen. Keep up the good work Mr. Pete you have an audience. Bless You Sir!
Thank you very much. I am glad you like the videos. I'm glad you liked your high school shop classes. It really paid off for you. You are right the kids do not want to learn any of that.
Always enjoy your video's. Don't put yourself down because of rambling. Makes for a more interesting video.
Thanks for sharing information like you do.
Thankyou for that bit on soldering acids. My father was a third generation plumber/sheetmetal worker. Working with him i learned how to make Copper roof pans and we actually did a lot of lead coated copper. He rarely soldered steels, only for small home repair. Galvy is something he never showed me. I do not believe one ever really understands his fathers knowledge till he isn't around to ask, we lost him 5 years ago. In regards to the present problem of these "smart" devices; I believe many young people will not discover the rewards associated with repairing, re-purposing, and creating useful items for everyday. This too shall pass, unfortunately at the cost of ones independence. When used appropriately this technology helps me solve problems every day, combined with our past knowledge one can truly accomplish a tremendous amount these days. The best way to combat this is exactly what you are doing, thanks and be well!
Rambling on or reminiscing is one of the things we tune in for mrpete so please keep it up. I can understand why your going back to school was a culture shock. Its the same in the UK schools. I doubt if we will produce another scientist of any note from the bunch of miscreants in education these days. regards from the UK
I work with high school kids in the Robotics club. They're incredible, hard working and smart, and the seniors are very excited to move on to engineering. Our kids from the last 5 years are everywhere from working in machine shops to graduating and getting jobs in engineering fields. Like any other group of people, you only tend to see the bad ones. There have always been bad ones and there always will be. The good ones are there, they're just not calling attention to themselves.
Thanks for watching
John Ridley While you have a need for engineers, they just simply don't have the practical experience to cut chips off to the correct dimensions.
As much as we need engineers, we need machinist to to produce the products created by engineers.
So you missed the part where I said that some of our students went on to work in machine shops. Robotics teams trains people in everything from marketing to using a lathe. One student tried welding for the first time in robotics, loved it, and he's now in trade school for a career in welding.
The big problem is not the students but the adults. Look at any new school built recently. Even here in SE Michigan where manufacturing has been king for decades, they're not building shops. They say "our kids are all going to be white collar 'knowledge workers' so we don't need to build shops." Then the kids who want to do things like that with their lives don't have the opportunity to learn and they get bored and idle.
YES--the whole thnig saddens me
Mr. Pete, when I was teaching, I had a big bucket of water and written down rule. If you leave your cell phone on the bench and it rings and I get to it first, it's going for a swim. Funny thing, I only every had one 'swimmer'. Keep sharing, it's always a joy to watch and listen.
+Joe McIntyre The liberal officials would make me pay for them
I enjoyed that Mr. Pete. I've made a good number of sheet metal items over the years. Even made my living at it for about, 20 of those years. Glad to see you tucked the tabs under the folds. Looks much neater. Galvalume, is hard to spot weld too. It tears little bits of copper off of the welder tips.
Thanks Mr Pete, Sheet metal class was one of my favorite in general metals, back in the 70"s. My shop teacher always insisted on us quickly wiping the solder joint with a wet rag. It always steamed. He wanted us to clean all the acid off with the rag. One day I cut myself with some sheet metal and the shop teacher excitedly ran me over to the sink and applied green soap to the wound before he sent me to the school nurse.
In the mid '50s, I watched a new house getting its galvanized eavestrough. All they used was gutter and downpipe. All corners and downjoints were cut and made- no prefab stuff. There was a gas fired furnace bigger than yours, and the irons were big. Full runs with corners were measured, fabricated and hoisted up in one piece. Very few joints were made at height. Ends were made from flatstock. One fellow, perhaps amused at my intent interest explained that when nailing the trough, the spike and ferrule must be angled UP from the front to back(fascia) to prevent rain from running along the fastener to rot the wood. I liked your Bass autopsy video- trying to kill it was lol. Thank you for your video work!
Great video Mr Pete. Brought back memories of shop class back in the 60's when I made a dust pan and funnel for my dad. No chaos from the kids back then. Anarchists would first get it from the teacher and then really get it from father. How depressing, those little mutations with the cell phones will be running the country in a few years. Hard to believe we will be looking back to today as the good old days.
Nope, still watching. Good instruction. Never to old or to smart to learn something new. Thanks Mr. Pete.
Thanks, Mr. Pete.
Your skills are most definitely not waning. Your subscribers, like night school students, are way more motivated to learn than most kids. Five years from now, some of those kids will be banging their heads trying to remember what they never listened to. If they develop any brains in the interim, they'll be sitting right next to us "in class".
Tom
+awhs1964 Thanks & you are so right
Love your videos Mr Pete! You have found your calling as a teacher right here my friend. Your class room has nearly 100,000 people in it and all of them are on the edge of their seat eager to learn!
+tomswonderfulworld Never thought of it that way--thanks
Lyle, Thanks for a great video, and trip down memory lane. We soldered galvanized in metals class back in the 80's, if i remember correctly we made a funnel and perhaps another project. Back then I believe that the industrial arts were considered preparation for real life trade work that would support a family. Today I am sure all the kids are convinced they are far above such work. How times change!
Thank you for taking the time to record and show this. Brings back memories. I was taught and practiced these skills 34 years ago.
Thicker galvanized steel (10ga. and above) can be easily and safely welded using 7014 rod or 211 flux core wire. As with any welding, have good ventilation and avoid the welding fume plume. We have made thousands of these welds in the construction of solar power plants. Thanks Mr. Pete for the great videos.
I have a galvanized drip pan leaking under my attic air conditioner condenser. In order to slip it under two sides have to be flat, unsoldered, then the corner has to be soldered in the attic, otherwise I have to jack up the condenser etc.. So this video is FANTASTIC and fortuitous for me and I thank you for keeping knowledge of craft alive!
I worked for a commercial roofer 20ish years ago. I worked in the shop cutting and forming whatever they needed for the roof they were working on. I made a lot of scuppers for flat roofs that would need soldered and we used muriatic acid to clean and then draw the solder into the joint. Great video and content. I too like the banter.
Thanks
Interesting soldering lesson. I am 70 and never have tried to solder galvanized as far as I can remember. I have soldered lots of other things. I remember back when they made automobile radiators from metal that was most often the thing I would solder. One of the hazards of second hand cars. Thanks for the video.
I wish you wouldn't be concerned about reminiscing about the past. It's one of the major reasons I enjoy watching your Channel so much. Not to mention all that I've learned from you. Don't change a thing! P.S. I also enjoyed watching the dismemberment of the fish.
i realize it is pretty randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to stream new series online?
I remember my father soldering galvanized eaves trough for our old house when I was a boy. He used a blow torch to heat the iron. Not too many years later we were taught sheet metal work and soldering in our high school Industrial Arts class. Thanks for the refresher.
I remember making a toolbox similar to the one you shown but the handle was still galvanized folded some way for more strength. However, it was soldered.
And we used the copper tipped irons that were placed in the furnace for heating.
I started typing this midway through the video and was going to ask about the white blocks that we used to clean the tips with... and you covered it. This was in high school so yeah, furnaces, hot copper irons and a white block that creates lots of smoke was a situation ripe for hijinks!
I loved your video!
I also enjoy the commentary that sometimes ventures into thinly related areas... such as today’s classroom. I retired from the Marines 10-years ago and immediately started teaching JROTC at a public high school. I pride myself on adapting and overcoming to accomplish a mission.... needless to say, it takes a lot of both!!! Heck, I’m still adapting!
I am so happy you have these videos! I watch and learn from them daily. Keep up the great work!
Mark
Thank you very much
Hi Lloyd,
I worked a lot with Galv. in both sheet and pipe. I have arc welded untold pounds or 7013 rod attaching 5/16" and 3/8" plates to the bottom of sch40 galv pipe over the last 42 years. I have also soldered a lot of galv sheet much like you have done in your video. I do like to wash the galv off the part where I am forming my joint with muriatic acid and then a neutral wash afterwards. a shallow plastic pan just large enough to dip the end of the pipe into works quite well or and acid brush also. when dipping the acid works quite fast on the galv. The area will foam for a few seconds and that's all it takes and the galv is gone. After arc welding the part will be plenty hot even after removing the flux and a quick wire brushing that I can still melt zink over the weld for protection. There is also cold galv that can be sprayed or brushed on like paint.
I hear you loud and clear about the kids in school today.
Well thank for another fine video.
Joe
Thanks for another instructional and entertaining video. The 200 watt soldering iron is surely easier to use than the old type that was heated with a blow torch. We oldsters had a good time with tools and making useful items while the youngsters of today spend so much of their time staring into their phones. Please keep the videos coming.
I really enjoy and learn from your videos, thanks for the effort. Your so called rambling and topic excursions adds to my learning experience. I don't know any young people that have interest in the trades and one day we will have lost the skills.
Babble away, Mr. Pete. Loved the video! Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Mr Pete, I've soldered steel but never galvanized. Thanks for demonstrating the difference. I work part time in a BOCES school and I know just what you mean about the chaos. If today's kids showed up at my high school, they wouldn't have let them in the door.
One point that I didn't see you make is that the solder will flow *towards* the heat... Very useful in conjunction with the capillary action in "sweating" a joint.
Another technique that is useful in difficult joints - use it all the time with copper water pipe - is to tin the surfaces to be joined with a thin film of solder first, make the dry fit - with a thin layer of flux - then heat the joint...
That 40/60 solder has more tin and less lead than the more common 60/40 - the numbers correspond to the rough values for the % by weight of lead first, then tin. Lead melts at a lower temperature, which is nice for assembly, but is weaker mechanically.
The other trick with the differing compositions is that you can do an assembly in stages, working from higher melting alloys to cooler melting.
Also - I'm rambling as well! - I still remember the "fun" we had plumbing a new water supply for my house, using the first generation of lead-free solders. Even with a MAPP gas torch, that stuff wouldn't "wet" like the old lead solders... The newer solders and fluxes aren't quite so bad...
Those big old soldering irons are neat, but not so readily available these days. The good news is that you can get propane and MAPP gas torches at the hardware store... The bad news is that you need to be even more careful when using a torch to not set something on fire or create unsafe fumes in your working area.
Finally, it must be the relatively high humidity in your region which leads to so *much* corrosion from the acid fluxes... I've seen some messy, rusty old stuff out here, but evidently Southern California is a relative desert - more so than I knew...
Thanks for an interesting fabrication video!
Eric
Reminds me on the summer I spent working for a sheet metal company that made dust collection systems. I must have riveted and soldered about a mile of pipe, elbows and ductwork. I still have a #2 Pexto rivet set in one of my toolboxes that I run across from time to time. Watching your show brought back the smell of the hot sal ammoniac.
If the solder crystallizes, it might be a little cold, as I recall it should be shiny or glossy. Might be from old galvanizing too, all our sheet metal came in fresh. Takes lots of heat to keep all that metal hot enough and long enough.
Thanks!
Great video; I've not soldered like this for a few years, but we were taught at college and it has come in handy a couple of times. I totally agree with you about the distractions students have today, we would never have been allowed purely on safety grounds and I'm only going back to the 80's here.
Always a pleasure to hang out in the shop with you,, like learning from a master,, someday I hope to be able to afford the courses you offer as I was not smart enough to take them in school i have acquired an old atlas lathe 9 inch and slowly getting to the point where i can try making chips, and hope to someday after bring my son up to speed on some shop arts,, Thank You for everything you do for for the community in the way of videos!
Thanks Mr. Pete...I really learned a lot with this. As a High School teacher, I KNOW what you mean with how things have changed! Makes me want to retire sooner than I anticipate. JI watched Billy Bass too. H
Most excellent presentation. So little information is presented on soldering.
Great addition to provide realistic way to create leak proof tray for the shop.
Thank you!
I worked in an architectural sheet metal shop for 10 years and probably soldered tens of thousands of feet of galv flashings. All you need is plain old muriatic (swimming pool) acid.
We used old propane solder pots and 4 lb coppers. They came in pairs (2lb each) so you always had one in the fire ready to go.
To keep the sal-amoniac block from crumbling we made a casing out of sheet lead, soldered the corners & left the top open. When you cleaned your coppers on it and the block wore away, so did the lead.
Dissolved sal-ammoniac in water makes a great dip to clean the copper right after you pull it from the fire to solder. A quick dunk of the tip leaves the tinned surface bright & shiny, that is, unless you left it in the fire too long & burnt it. Then you had to let it cool, file to bare copper & re-tin.
To solder plain steel, stainless, copper or brass you make killed (or cut) acid by adding small pieces of zinc to the muriatic until it won't dissolve any more.
Love your vids!
I work in the maintenance shops of a steel mill now & I'm the only sheet metal journeyman. Don't do much soldering anymore but when I do I get a big crowd of mechanics watching as I fire up the old Clayton & Lambert gasoline blowtorch and go to town with my coppers. I get a kick looking at their befuddled expressions!
One more tip… always keep a wet rag handy in a bucket of water so you don't have to wait forever for the solder to harden. Plus the water will rinse off the acid right away.
Hope this helps.
Keep up the excellent videos!
+57cpdvl Thanks--put on a nice show for those boys at the mill
+57cpdvl Thanks for some great tips. The safety nazis would kill me if I mentioned acid.
Great video sir. I feel your pain when dealing with the younger generation.lol. I wonder if my dad or former teachers felt frustration..lol
My comment is directed towards the Weller 8200 gun. I was a tv service tech for 20 yrs in my former life. This was back in the days of Zenith ( and everyone else ) featured hand wired chassis. Back then TVs were actually tested,diagnosed,disassembled and repaired, instead of changing out 300 parts on a board. The copper loop tip assembled upside down was very handy to keep heat from burning insulation,plastics,Bakelite,etc. I maintained a couple of guns with tips in both positions. I loved the gun since I could make custom tips like small gage wire for tiny projects like jewelry....ahhh....the memories.......Alas...I too digress and blather,,,but I'm harmless,,,good day sir.
+Mike Davis Thanks-I laways wondered the reason for the upside down tip
I watched to the end Mr Pete. You are a wealth of experience/information. Thanks for making videos.
Hi Pete I'm still watching and enjoying all your video's and haven't gone anywhere. 👍👍👍
Great video Mr P, I read the comments and like me they all reflect my thought, which is the rambling and off the cuff rants are why I like the videos so much. I worked in a car bodyshop in the 70s and we had a box folder - I spent so many lunchtimes making things we also had a spot welder which was a great tool for bare steel - haven't used one in forty years so would love to see a video when you have time. Kind Regards Garry from the UK (The English Bit)
Good stuff. I haven't done anything like that since I was in 8th grade shop class and made a galvanized steel dust pan My mother still uses it, and she's 92. So I guess you could say that both of them (mom and the pan) have held up well.
And I did see your tear-down of the carp, but I'm glad you haven't torn down Woody. Keep an eye on him, he can be a real help in the shop.
Thanks for the video, soldering is a good test of patience, and I think you did a great job considering the week you had. Thanks again.
Great video as always. I always learn something new. I wish there were garage sales in Scotland like you have in America. Keep the videos coming, especially the lathe/ mill projects.
I'm so glad you posted this video. I had no idea you could solder galvanized steel. I'm sorry some of your videos don't get many views. I like them all.
I would like to hear you tell stories. You should tell us some of your favorite teaching stories sometime.
Another entertaining video. I never knew the name of that white stuff I used in 1968-1969 High School Electricity and Electronics shop class to clean off the carbon and tin the tip of the soldering Iron. It worked very well but I never ran across the stuff again in my 40 plus year career in electronics. Well now I know the name, Sal Ammoniac, thanks.
Thank you! this has open up so many new possibilities for me! I never knew galvanize sheet could be solder.
I also am an old school machinist and think your videos are great. Keep up the good work. 👍
I started high school in 1961 and the first thing we did in metalwork, was to make a cake cutter out of tin plate. Bending, rolling and soldering. I did OK at this, as my grandfather was a welder and had already started to teach me these skills. We used to use a soldering flux, called Baker's Fluid, which was basically Zinc Chloride, which was made bu adding Zinc to Hydrochloric Acid, until it would take no more. This was also called "Killed Spirits of Salts". Later in life, we would solder galvanised iron, using diluted Hydrochloric acid, which converted to Zinc chloride and fluxed the surface. Hope this is of interest to people.
Always a treat to get into the coffee fueled way back machine and see you do things that are not very commonly done today. As a kid I remember seeing galvanized gutters installed. Fairly exciting seeing the hot irons or gasoline fired blow torches going up the ladder. Sorry that the substitute teaching was not enjoyable. Just can't expect the kids to have the maturity to understand that they had a very special teacher from whom they might learn some very interesting things in what we might call "real time."
I am also among those that enjoy your "rambling"! I think I may have one of those old soldering coppers around the house somewhere, no stove to go with it, though. I remember my dad telling me that his father would put the copper in the water heater burner to heat it up. I would've never thought to use an electric iron on sheet metal, I'd have probably used a small propane torch.
Great video! ...and don't hold back on your commentary on modern education. More folks need to hear that things are far different than from when they were in school.
Rekindle memory's , I tried to remember the last thing i used solder on, other than wire, I believe it was a radiator that had a seam leak on a crawler i used to work on ! Thank for the memory's !
Top stuff again Mr Pete, you can paint galvanised as long as you nuetralise the galvanising with vinegar, mixed 5 to 1 with water, works quite well for me. Cheers, keep up the good work.
I used to fix gas tanks by soldering a penny over the hole left by rust. After thorough cleaning, of course. We ran car exhaust through the tank to purge the air, other wise... KABOOM!
+Doug Rundell Kept a bar of Ivory soap in my Mustang for emergency gas tank repairs.
it sure is good to see the basic's I'm glad I was taught these skill's in school way back in 76-77 keep um coming there all good PS loved the FORD tour
My sheet metal/soldering project in HS (1971) was making a funnel. Used a formula for layout, then cut and rolled the metal, then soldered the joints. Remember the soldering being the most difficult operation. Still have the funnel by the way.
Still interesting to watch. Old school ways are still good. Thanks for sharing.
I learned just like that people now days don't know how to do anything like that anymore. I've got to build a chip pan for my Atlas QC42 I just brought back to life.
Learned how to solder galvanized Thanks Mr. Pete... Your the bestest.....
Thanks for the informative video. I would never have even considered soldering galvanised metal.
I have always wondered how to solder sheet metal, now I know! Thanks Mr Pete.
No, Pete. I watched the whole thing... Very interesting seeing a Master!
I love soldering! I discovered Ruby Fluid at a yard sale years ago. That’s some strong flux and when you put the iron to the joint, I could feel my eyes burn from the fumes.
Man i love to spend a summer with you and just soak up all the information you have to offer.
He is filled with a wealth of information and sounds like jimmy Stewart, it doesn't get better then that.:-)
Enjoyed the video; Thanks. The clear soldering liquid is Zinc Chloride which is made by reacting zinc with hydrochloric acid. Excess zinc is reacted to make sure that all the acid is reacted. Also the Sal Ammoniac when dissolve in water makes a good flux for soldering galvanized steel and plain steel.
A slight crease on each diagonal will give the sheet metal extra rigidity
The soldering iron works best to heat the part, the solder will flow to the heat
right...heat the part.....I learned how to solder when I was about 5......my Dad was Electrical engineer in the Army....so I learned all kinds of stuff at a young age....and.....I still see 'experts' here on youtube that put a lot of solder on the iron...then try to 'carry' it to the work....both electronic and sheet metal stuff....
Great upload. Always entertaining and educational, Mr. Pete.
Hello Mister Pete:
Your video on soldering galvanized reminds me that it's been over 50 years since my last bottle of acid flux hit the trash can. I now use "Nokorode" paste for ungalvanized steel, brass, etc. Rosin core for electronics, of course.
If we'd had cellphones, iPods, etc. when I was a kid going to school, we'd have been slapped silly. As it was, even without the gadgets, I got slapped silly a LOT!
I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work! :-)
+Elden DuRand I think I have some nokorode in the garage
+mrpete222:
I remember using Nokorode when I was a kid when I helped Dad when he did electrical wiring. My job was to keep the blowtorch pumped-up and keep the irons hot and tinned. I ran out a couple of years ago and thought the stuff was unobtanium. Took a chance in McMaster-Carr and there it was! I'm now set for life.
Enjoyed as always Mr. Pete, thanks for the education!
(And the coffee-fueled humor!)
2 thumbs up Mr. Peterson...I have a South Bend 10 K Gag Bed bench lathe I bought new from the factory in the early 70's (machinist 42+ years)...I never got around to making a chip pan...so now I will.....My only complaint about the lathe is that South Bend could not offer me hardened bed-ways because of problems with the heating/hardening accuracy with the gap section..Oh well, I still love working it...again thanks....LYLE 4 PRESIDENT !!!!!.....jm
The reason people tell you not to file soldering iron tips is many tips today are plated with iron. They're plated so they do not erode so quickly. So when you file those tips you remove the protective plating. But if your tip is pure copper then file away to your hearts content. Great video BTW I stayed until the end.
Great video as always Mr. Pete. Have a great day.
Lyle, enjoyed this greatly. brought back memories of making wheel chocks and tool totes and MHS. Mendota. Mark
+Henry Carr Did you ever know Bob Lewis the shop teacher
+mrpete222 you bet, He was my woods and drafting instructor. He also was a personal friend of my fathers. Carol Doerner was the metals and welding instructor.
Another useful video, thanks! I'll add - when you read "instructions" for soldering, they often say apply solder to the joint, not the iron. True but apply some to the iron while on the joint first, because it transfers heat better. Also try flux or acid core solder, works a trick.
Thanks for watching
I just love my "older than me" giant 200w iron. I've built many a guitar amp, using it to solder to chrome plating on thick steel chassis.
Thanks for watching
Great video. Thanks for sharing. You are an awesome teacher! Thanks for all of your video's Mr. Peterson.
and a free breakfast.........classic. Not only will I have a new level of knowledge after watching these videos, my humor toolbox will be chock full.
I'm glad you liked
I enjoyed the video. Would like to hear some of the substitute teaching stories someday.
Very informative thank you sir. I wish we had teachers such as yourself when I was in school.
Nice job on the chip pan! Ive learned alot from your videos as I did this one! I really hope you decide to dissect Woody because I thought the Billy The Big Mouth Bass video was hilarious!!! Cant wait for the next video! Thanks Tubalcain!
Those of us without access to large sheet metal brakes use baking sheets for pull-out drip pans. Another useful idea is to cut one side of a driveway drip pan and sandwich it between the lathe bed and the lathe bench or stand (drilled for through-bolting.) My Logan is set up this way, and it makes it easy to clean oil and chiips that miss the removable drip pan.
+misfitsailor Yes-I am replacing a baking sheet on that lathe
Thanks for this video ! Old time techniques work wonders but the unfortunate problem is ; they get forgotten ...
Therefore, your tutorial is precious ... as well as your old time humour btw ;P
Great stuff,
Y
another interesting video, could listen to you for ages. thanks mr pete.
G'day Lyle, I just purchased one of those brass gasoline/kerosene blowtorches 2 days ago, it came with a set of the wooden handle coppers, I'd never seen one before, when I got it home I repaired the plunger with a new leather cup. it burns fantastic and puts out a lot of heat
+Ned's Head The Modern Black Smith just made a video about the old blowtorches. You might want to check it out .
Thanks Bob, I'll check him out, I found a good series on repairing the old blowtorches at Old Sneelock's Workshop, well worth a look
I have used a spot welder for years on galvanized. And I only use rosin core solder but I usually flux with ruby fluid. My mentor had adapted his spot welder years ago with replaceable tips long before they were commercially made. BTW, ruby fluid is available from McMaster Carr with a plastic lids now. I always rinse the solder joint with hot soapy water and a little baking soda to neutrallize the acid.
I used to use Rwby fluid quite often. I do not remember if I showed it in the video you are watching. And yes, it was very corrosive, which made it work well. I tried to neutralize it best I could in the manner you suggested.
Hi, Lyle
I quit teaching in the public schools almost twenty years ago, hear in California.
The main reason that I quit was because there was no discipline in the school, and the least disciplined people there, were the administrators !!!
They won't follow the district or their own rules, and when I would enforce them, I was criticized by everyone, parent student, and principal alike.
I came into teaching from the metalworking, and automotive trades, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that our country will suffer because of a lack of industrial education. It already is, because of the lack of qualified technicians in all the trades.
I returned to the trades, and I still feel like I abandoned the students that really wanted to get an education. It was simply a case of my mental health, and professionalism.
We know what is right, and we can not do anything less.
Keep on doing just what you are doing, it's perfect.
I refer a lot of young folks to your channel, and they are learning from you.
Just remember, were not old, just well seasoned !!!
Yes !!! I am still the Shop Teacher at heart .
Tim
+MrTIGERH1752 Thanks-I felt discipline was lacking my whole 40 yrs at school.
Principals were never any help!! But there is still a need for shop.
Thanks for the vid!
I have Mig welded galvanized material with good results. Just need to be careful, don't breath it in, and have good ventilation. Also have to clean the weld area very good. Basically your taking most of the zinc off in those spots.
Again, you have to think about safety but it's more than doable.
I've learned that zinc and Iron builds a alloy on the contact surfaces. That alloy has a very high melting point. Higher than iron if I'm correct. This makes it nearly impossible to weld.
I've soldered may boxes from galvanized steel plates and in my experience the best way is to use soldering paste with solder in it. It's a gray paste. Put it on, press the parts together and heat it up gently with a small blowtorch then use a little bit of Solder to fill up gaps. Worked great for me. The liquid flux stuff is hard to get to the places you want it to go if you have complex shapes put together.
It sounded as if you were intimidated by those kids. If so I know how older people feel being around youngsters today. I do not think it was this way years ago, I really wish you would relay these experiences you had. Thanks for all your videos.
I love your videos and especially the side-tracking. I'm all for watching you operate on Woody! I use Sal Ammoniac in making stained glass windows and a similar looking liquid to that flux so as to blacken the leading on Tiffany-style stained glass. Keep on entertaining us with more videos like these please! All the best from Hertfordshire, UK.
Youthful exuberance that turned to chaos made me laugh!Love your videos!