Nord Stage 3 vs Nord Stage 4 - Comparison Review
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- In this video I compare the Nord Stage 3 to the Nord Stage 4 and talk about the functionality differences between the two. While the Nord Stage 3 is a very powerful keyboard, the Nord Stage 4 expands and improves on some areas such as the synth section and the effects to add even more features and functionality.
As I was editing this video I realized I missed the physical drawbars. On the Nord Stage 4, physical organ drawbars are now included on all versions of the keyboard instead of just the compact!
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As I was editing this video I realized I missed the physical drawbars. On the Nord Stage 4, physical organ drawbars are now included on all versions of the keyboard instead of just the compact! I'm sure I'll realize other things I missed as time goes on and if so, I'll reply to this pinned comment!
I just can't get past the song mode thing. There are definitely some novel ways of organizing things on the Stage 4, some of which (like scenes) I think I'd really like working with. But the Stage 3 is absolutely perfect for me as someone who plays in a variety of projects, many of them on the prog-ish side, with basically the same 20-ish patches that are arranged in completely different orders for different songs amd which I can move through with the simple push of a footswitch on the Stage 3. If they ever implement song mode on the 4 I'd be sold. I'll probably end up with one eventually anyway because there's a lot there I like regardless, but the lack of including song mode on the thing still boggles my mind a bit.
I sold my good old NS 2 some months ago when the NS 4 was announced, and it is really a big game changer... at least vs NS2.... watching you video, I understand that NS3 users do not really feel the envy or need to move to NS4... but when coming from NS2, it really brings you to another dimension.. Is it over-priced? yes, probably... but if you can afford it, go for it
Got my Stage 4 a couple days ago, I really love the piano sounds on it. Love the videos, and looking forward to more!!
Hi! He mentioned the stage 4 having light action. Is yours fully weighted and does it feel good and weighted?
@@robwhaling633 I have the 88 key version, and personally i love the feel of the action, it feels pretty good and weighted, I’ve played on a Yamaha Montage 8 and a DGX-640 , and comparing the actions to those i really enjoy playing on the stage 4 (i don’t like the montage 8 action)
Nice rundown of key features and differences. I have the Stage 3 HP76 and love it, but the lure of 88 keys, physical drawbars, and the triple sensor keybed--in addition to the layer effects and preset library, have me seriously considering an upgrade. However, I play in a Tribute band and have lots of layers/split sound programs, and currently use Song Mode as the key ingredient to organize my songs/sets for quick recall and implementation of the programs I need. While I suppose there's a workaround for the lack of Song Mode in the Stage 4, I would need to be very sure that, even over a long period of setting up, that I could get to the same spot as far as live gigs--Song mode is something I'd be lost without, unless there was an easy substitute way of getting the same thing accomplished on the Stage 4. In fact, I will suggest on the Nord user forum that someone who is a Song Mode diehard like me create a video showing us how to use the Stage 4 in the same way without having the exact Song Mode button/feature--perhaps by setting up programs by song/set, or with Live Mode, or with the preset library feature. Right now I can't think of an easy way to do this on Stage 4, which is a shame, because it's otherwise a really great upgrade.
I'm liking the sound of the Stage 4 but the price is a showstopper for me so my Stage 3 can relax. The reason I like the Stage 4 is the new sound of the pianos and EPs they are brighter from a new DAC and the change in the file format. The new sound is more like the competitors who have a brighter sound to cut thru when playing with a band. People wanting to use a Stage for solo piano work might prefer the sound of the Stage 3.
If you want plastic bright buy Roland :))). In terms of piano sounds Nord have hit perfection.
But the sounds from stage 4 are all also available for the stage 3 so you wouldn’t need to upgrade ;)
Very poor that they didn’t include song mode. This makes the Stage 3 much more flexible in a live situation
Exactly
For me the coolest update in Stage 4 is that they finally ditched those legacy a & b panels and put faders for each part + the ability to assign individual effects to sounds. However I think they've missed 2 major things:
1. switching between sounds (e.g. piano) while the previous sound is sustained (kind of like the program switches are done now)
2. poly glide!!!
Bro this video is such a gift. As is this new version of the Stage series. I feel like all the stuff that drove me nuts about previous versions were addressed. Thanks for your hard work on this. What church do you play at?
I prefer the 3 over the 4, better sounds for me
Comparison is between Nord Stage 3 Compact and Nord Stage 4 88.
I think the dynamic response, on certain types of sounds, is too different to make an effective comparison 😊
... If we can't make an effective comparison of the same instrument, from the same manufacturer, of two consecutive models of the same line-up then what in the world can even be effectively compared?
This how it is on the Yamaha YC61 and yc73. The dynamics are lost in the yc73 where as on the YC61 the dynamics are amazing
@@itsmaistrohey my friend how would you compare the yc61 to the Nord 6d ? Think the yc61 is worthy? I’m looking at either one. But also want the stage 4 but to much $
@jeffhayesexperiment if budget is an issue go YC61. If you can handle the yc61 keys then go for it and save up for the stage 4 compact
@@noone-ld7pt I wrote that, in my opinion, it is not useful to compare two instruments that have different types of keys.
This observation is a matter of fact.
If you are not aware that a Nord Stage Compact and a Nord Stage 88 have different dynamic responses, it may indicate a lack of familiarity with the topic.
I find your intervention curious.
I'm surprised they kept the name "Stage" in this new board. Doesn't make sense. Stage 3 is great for live playing, but this video fortifies my belief that the Stage 4 should have been called "Studio" because it's not "Stage" friendly. It's a great keyboard, but not for live playing of cover songs where you easily use 90 - 160 different sounds/programs/patches whatever you want to call it in a 3 hour gig. The loss of Song Mode killed the brand. The Stage 5 coming out next will have Song Mode.
I think you are taking our argument a little bit far. But I do agree with you that the loss of song mode is almost a show-stopper for me, and I think it was a terrible desicion by Nord.
Thanks for the review. The red instrument cables, which are they? Thank you
Great presentation. Thank you! Is the HA73 action a TP40? Or lighter?
GREAT video... please forgive me in advance for such a question, but all feautres aside, does the 4 sound any better than the 3? Thank you
I think the pianos sound the same, as the Nord piano library is mostly shared across several generations of Stage/Piano/Electro.
I am considering an 88-key Nord Stage 2, 3, or 4. I would use it to play 90% piano but still need organ and EP. Any recommendations?
If you can swing it I would go for the Nord Stage 4. Works great for piano and the weighted keybed still works well for organ and EP. The same could probably be said for the 3 and 2, but the 4 has some improvements make it the best of the bunch. If not, I'd try to find a used 3.
would you use the two keyboards for worship like piano on the Stage 4 and Pads on the Stage 3
You could, but it’d be overkill. Short of the synth section, the sounds are very similar. I’d be more apt to pair the Nord Stage with the YC or a different synth, but even so, the Nord Stage 4 in it of itself is powerful enough to cover all the bases of what I need during a worship set. I found the Nord Stage 3 Compact for synth sounds and the Yamaha YC88 for piano to be a pretty nice combo at our Easter service this year though!
I really Love the sound, its imagine.
amazing video, thank you very much! You have very harhs vocal on hi end (listening on studio speakers). I would lower eq around 4k-10k, or you added too much some saturation plugin
your review are excellent !
Overall quite an improvement! Great that they are using physical drawbars. Never should have used digital. Also, extra buttons and physical sliders for each zone is much better than panels A and B. This kind of accessibility is something Nord needs to continue building on in future models. Let’s be honest here that this is not the most accessible instrument. It takes a lot to learn and dig into.
I do not get why, for the number of samples-we’re talking hundreds-Nord continues to use such small digital screens. It takes a lot of work to dig into all the features. In general, and in my opinion, there are more features than most people will likely ever use in the studio or live. At church, we have a Nord at all four locations. And I can definitely say, usage is probably 5% of full capability-moostly the piano samples, pads, and organ. Making all the samples much more accessible should be a goal. A huge touch screen in the center would be helpful. But not crammed and with tiny font like the Yamaha Montage and MODX8+.
Getting rid of song mode probably could be a dealbreaker. Why would they do this?
I had a Stage 3 and I returned it because for me, for now, it was too complex. However, I certainly miss the piano samples, as they are superior to most or maybe all others.
I’ve been considering the Yamaha Montage or MODX8+ but from videos I’ve watched the piano samples and key action, while excellent, do not seem to be up to par with Nord. I would have to actually play both of the Yamahas to know for sure. But Yamaha is definitely becoming a leader now.
For now I’m back to my Roland FP3, which I’ve had for 20+ years, until I decide what piano/synth I want. Also, not opposed to a Roland synth. Roland has been my goto for years.
I would consider a Stage 4. We’ll see.
Just because you see many smart devices having “a huge touchscreen” doesn’t mean it’s easy to build such instrument like that. Only big corporates have the capability and accessibility of all the hardware materials and software development to do it in mass production.
You were also saying you could only use “5% of full capability” of a Nord Stage instrument but at the same time saying it was too complicated tha you had to return it?
Maybe the Nord stage isn’t the right instrument for you and your church from the beginning.
Good stuff
Do you have the same acoustic and electric piano sounds for you or is there a difference?🤔
Not much differtlent between the 4 and the 3 ....but hey its a game of preference and if this is what one likes, this is what one shoild buy. The kost important thing is to know your sound and what i strument makes you happy and unique. I personally dont really care for organ which is one of the major sales of a stage 3. Im of a piano synth guy
which nord should i get if im a piano synth guy too cuz idc for organ
@@mitchell3.517get the piano 5. It doesn't have as much synth stuff though.
@@jord_ibeIt doesn’t have a mod wheel either. Still wonder why it still doesn’t have one after 5 generations lol
@@A106 hence justifying the name, Nord Piano.
@@jord_ibe Eh makes sense, still think they should have added that since they have a whole on synth engine. Otherwise just sell a board with only pianos lol.
Amazing video 👏
So I am a church keyboard player... I am contemplating a Nord Stage 3 88 key version 2nd hand but barely used... for $5600 Australian dollars... verses buying a brand new Nord Stage 4 which retails in Australia for $8199... its really church use only. So $2599 cheaper to get me a Stage 3. What is your advice? I am more likely to use preset sounds including the worship program packs of sounds you sell for church rather than sit and develop my own... Would love your advice and thoughts...
Sorry I missed this! I have the NS3 along with the NS4 and still choose to use the 3 sometimes at church! Still a very capable and powerful stage piano and while the NS4 has some nice bells and whistles that the NS3 doesn’t have, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with the 3! Especially with the program packs I have, I still use those in my church whenever I play the 3!
May I ask what cameras you use?
I mainly use an iPhone 14 pro max for the overhead and a Canon R6 for the other angle.
How I wish I could afford one
Por favor amigo faz um comparativo dos timbres deles para ver se ouve mudança
Hey there, thanks for sharing. I recently pulled the trigger on my first Nord, and got a Stage 4 88. Love just about everything about it, it's so far beyond any other keyboard I've played. Feels like I've been driving a Honda for so many years and now I've got a Ferrari.
Wanted to ask for your input on the Volume Offset function. It seems to behave inconsistently, as demonstrated here. Any ideas?
ruclips.net/video/G9SJTGF4KsM/видео.html
In my book they dropped the ball with the 4, they should have added a panel C instead and kept the setlist.
I'd like to add to that.. they also dropped the ball by not allowing expandable external memory ONCE AGAIN!!😤
It’s ashame the nord stage 4 is a 5000 dollar keyboard. If you aren’t affected by inflation and have that kind of money laying around more power to you. Most of us can’t afford it. Nord is just over priced. It can get a montage or a Kawai that can do just as good but great playing man. Why is every product with the brand name just way to out of reach!
Got 13 min in and had to stop.
Too much flicking, layering and nothing going on.
Are you interested in selling your stage 3?
Possibly, but not for a little bit. Shoot me an email at douglasjmoore@gmail.com if you’re interested!
@@DSoundman for sure
Just to be honest with you all, I never bother turning On the Organ Panel of the nord stage. It's just not an organ. I stay where the nord shines, piano engine and synth engine. Yamaha organs is not the real thing but sounds better than the nord organ.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
yea Yamaha definitely did their research when they made the YC!💪🏿💯🤘🏿 The latest os update made it even more a standout
talking talking talking
clearly 1 of your worst videos...listen to your audience in the comment section...im not the only 1. too much talking and too much touching
The difference is that the Stage 3 is overpriced garbage, while the Stage 4 is a ridiculously overpriced piece of garbage. Get a Yamaha Montage 8x. It's actually worth $4500. A Nord Stage 4 would have to be around $800 for me to even consider it. Nord actions are trash. Notice how they will never say WHICH ACTION it is. They keep saying "triple sensor." My old Casio Privia PX560 had a triple sensor graded weighted hammer-action keybed 6 years ago.
*Montage 😂 😂 😂 No serious professional want bright-digital sounding piano sounds lmao, enjoy your cheap toy.*
@@Dadee3 You're a dunce. The samples Nord uses are tiny low resolution garbage. That is a fact. Look it up. Their actions suck too. The best action that they offer is an old ass RH3 Kawai action... the same plastic action used on a low-end Kawai ES8.
Haha, what complete nonsense. Use both montage, cp88 and now a stage 4 upgrading from 3. Ilike the upgrade of the keybed in the 4. Anyhow all three great keyboards which complements each other and a real grand
/rhodes great.
I wish the CP88 had the same presets as the montage. Which is closer to the Nord stage. The montage is way too heavy for gigs and playing live. Also is a workstation not a stage piano. Apples to oranges.
@@ispianist Too heavy... for you. And plenty of people use Montages on stage. As I said previously, a Nord Stage 4, with it's crap fatar action, tiny samples and laughably low polyphony is worth about $800. And that's being generous. The only people worth a crap who play them are given them, so that suckers like you will drop $6000 on a mediocre birthday-party-gig keyboard 🤣
Nord stage 3 and 4 has bender?
Yes, they both have the same pitch bend stick.
As all the version of Nord Stage has always had.