I can always count on you to read the documentation, John. Thanks for mentioning the spinner function as well as how to modify the light pattern (something most other reviews miss). Now I'm going to preorder one of these thanks to the thoroughness of your review :)
I really appreciate it, yeah I spent some time in the manual. Read it entirely at least once, re-read several sections more than a few times and also reviewed Glen's early manual before it went to print (without using the product). I do enjoy reading and creating documentation, I'm weird LOL. Thank you for your kind comments and I think you'll thoroughly enjoy this kit. There is much more that I haven't covered yet in detail, but plan to in the future. I mean, push-pull spinner, that's begging for Discs of Tron right? I was going to cover it here, but didn't want the video to become so long that no-one has the time for it. On average, most only watch 4:31 of this video which is not uncommon.
You and your team did an amazing job with this kit, Glen! Thank you so much for sending it, I always LOVE your products!! You remember years ago when we used to talk about 3D printing? Now look how far you've come since then - Amazing! The products you and tsticks create make this hobby so much better and give us the options that weren't possible -and at an extremely reasonable price.
thank for actually showcasing the rotation feature of this rotating joystick, unlike Gamester81 who played Ikari very briefly and just stared forward the entire time XD
@@WagnersTechTalk one thing Gamester did a poor job conveying and something your video lightly touched upon that I wanna ask. is this only a joystick? is Ikari Warriors in no way packed with the unit in any form? (if not then is the SNK branding just for show??) also any idea what collections or anything support this? im not a Mame guy but part of me would love in some way to play Midnight Resistance with this thing
I'm not sure if there will be anything included in the package for downloading SNK's collection. I do know there will be some slight changes between the package that I received and retail packages (i.e. my wires weren't labeled, but retail units will be). Along those same lines, not sure if an insert will be provided with a download code. However, at 06:25 I do show how you can download it for free (at least, at the time of writing this).
@@WagnersTechTalk thats cool stuff, though strange to have SNK branding along with a specific game motief but not include the game in question as a gateway game to entice trying more (there isn't a ton of games out there that take advantage of rotary joysticks, but it would have helped it beyond a hobbyist project) still this is a neat product, but as someone who isn't very tech savey, I dont know theres enough confidence put into the products longevity to make it more then a fun but pricey addition to a digital collection thats free for the moment. It's nice that it can serve as a normal joystick for other programs and such, but I feel like some opportunities might have been missed to make this a more commercial product outside of joystick modders.
@@Gojiro7 You can pick it up for free, currently, if you have Amazon Prime. But yeah, it is a bummer it's not included with the package itself. I did just check with Glen, he confirmed no software included. I can definitely see using this the next time I build a custom cabinet. Might be a project soon now that the Pi5 has been released.
Thanks for this, I’ve preordered the international edition. You’ve put together some really great tips here, especially around the mame part. Ps subbed, now going to watch the retrobat video.
Very welcome, appreciate you watching! Other guides you might find helpful may be found on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#PC_Retro_Gaming . It will go directly to the PC Retro Gaming options, but there are many more guides on that page that cover a bunch of different topics (Steam Dec, Virtual Pinball, etc.) Thank you for subscribing and Welcome!
Got this some months ago and I LOVE... the idea of using it. But it's still unassembled, waiting for the next free Saturday. I'm torn between using the box as the, um, box, but also getting a custom case like The Fighter from Haruman's Customs. I'm actually leaning towards the box since (1) it's already paid for, (2) it's already got the artwork, and (3) if I'm going to be using it as a spinner, I _don't_ want a heavy enclosure on my lap. Plus I figure I could still do the same things our friends in the FGC do to the box, i.e. Neutrik hole for detachable USB and adhesive foam feet to prevent slippage.
I thought about installing it into an Arcade cabinet my son and I built several years ago, may still do it at some point when I have time. I really want to re-work the entire control panel and this stick would be ideal for it. Thank you for watching!
Nice. I was really hoping this could also be used as a spinner too when I noticed it in the product description, but MadLittlePixel's review made no mention of this. Despite this, I already placed my preorder. I'll try it in the box, but I also have an old HotRodSE controller that I may replace the player 2 side with this as I rarely have anyone else play on it (heck, I don't use it much lately and haven't even replaced the old PS/2 encoder with a USB one, just use an adapter every time a take the controller out).
Glen sent me a video that showed it working with Arkanoid and mentioned there would be a firmware update to allow using it as a spinner. That will open the doors for many more games that work with it.
Glen always exceeds my expectations, I cannot wait for the iircade deck with his viperboard, once the batocera or whatever gets developed for thr viperboard I'll hardly use the iircade sbc baby!
Glen does an awesome job! I've never once received/purchased one of his products that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed! He takes the time to make sure it's done right and at a price that is always lower than I personally think it should be priced at. Same here on the iiRcade deck, that one I've pre-ordered and can't wait to upgrade the machine.
Excellent and professional review as always. I do have a couple of questions though 1) what size is the joystick body, Happ? 2) is there any way to make the joystick act as an analog stick (like a Brook Fighting Board does)? 3) does the 12 total buttons include the dual mode button?
Thank you, I don't have a digital copy of the manual I can send you to answer those questions. Please drop Glen an e-mail here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact , he may be able to send you the current digital version. All I have is the printed version that came with the kit.
I'd love to know how to support this controller in future games. If I understood correctly in this video, the rotational input seems to be mapped to mouse trackball movement on the x-axis together with a sensitivity variable.
Yes, you can also adjust this two different ways by pressing+holding the Mode button for POV Hat, Keystroke or mouse or the WAY button for 8,12 or 16 way. Free way will be in an upcoming update (free spinning), from what I understand.
Hey man great video! I found your channel after watching all of your AtGames 4k videos. I have a question on these joysticks, I did email the company (thunderstick) but they said it wouldn't work. So I have 2 arcade machines that use the LS-30 joysticks, and one of them needs new sticks (Heavy Barrel). Do you know if the wires that come out operate as each switch without USB power? Like I can just connect each wire to the arcade harness, and they would register as inputs? I feel like it would work, but they wrote back and said these couldn't be used with out the interface / converter USB board. Thanks and if you don't know, no worries! Great channel, I am subbing!
Hey brother, thank you for checking out the vids and for your support - greatly appreciated! I don't have an original LS-30 stick here, so I'd definitely go by what thunderstick/GRS have mentioned. I wish I could say based on experience that it would/wouldn't work but I can't. I hope you find past/future content just as interesting, a lot coming. Also, be sure and check out the guides here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides . A lot of how-to type stuff that cover a large number of tech/gaming topics with much more to come!
@@WagnersTechTalk cool man thanks and yeah no problem. I think I will try one anyway, I have their tron joystick and modded that for an arcade cab. Took a bit of work to get it to a commercial level, but I think it's been holding up well after some tweaks. Also I installed it on Polybius, so maybe that's why haha
Very good question, may have to get with Glen on that one. It's mostly a matter of if the drivers exist and can be mapped to fully support it, not sure on that.
Just received 2 of these yesterday. I setup one, but I can't figure out the right settings to use with Ikari Warriors in MAME. Anyone have any idea? The manual doesn't give specific recommendations for specific games, as far as I could find.
I've not watched this video fully yet, but Rexer released one a day ago that covers the RetroArch setup. You can find that video here: ruclips.net/video/RavziBg43_I/видео.html . If you comment there, tell him Wagner sent you 😎 He and I collaborated a little on the Ikari review videos.
I can always count on you to read the documentation, John. Thanks for mentioning the spinner function as well as how to modify the light pattern (something most other reviews miss). Now I'm going to preorder one of these thanks to the thoroughness of your review :)
I really appreciate it, yeah I spent some time in the manual. Read it entirely at least once, re-read several sections more than a few times and also reviewed Glen's early manual before it went to print (without using the product). I do enjoy reading and creating documentation, I'm weird LOL. Thank you for your kind comments and I think you'll thoroughly enjoy this kit. There is much more that I haven't covered yet in detail, but plan to in the future. I mean, push-pull spinner, that's begging for Discs of Tron right? I was going to cover it here, but didn't want the video to become so long that no-one has the time for it. On average, most only watch 4:31 of this video which is not uncommon.
Great job Jon. This will be a great guide/review for people when they get their joystick kit.
Thank you so much Tim, much appreciated sir!
Really a thorough with you. Well done🎉🎉
You and your team did an amazing job with this kit, Glen! Thank you so much for sending it, I always LOVE your products!! You remember years ago when we used to talk about 3D printing? Now look how far you've come since then - Amazing! The products you and tsticks create make this hobby so much better and give us the options that weren't possible -and at an extremely reasonable price.
Excellent video Wagner. You went over everything , and did this will make it easier for people when they get theirs.
Thank you for your kind comments and for checking it out Rexer!
thank for actually showcasing the rotation feature of this rotating joystick, unlike Gamester81 who played Ikari very briefly and just stared forward the entire time XD
Lol, I just watched his video tonight. Very welcome, GRS did an amazing job with this kit. If it's of interest to you, you're gonna ❤️ it.
@@WagnersTechTalk one thing Gamester did a poor job conveying and something your video lightly touched upon that I wanna ask. is this only a joystick? is Ikari Warriors in no way packed with the unit in any form? (if not then is the SNK branding just for show??) also any idea what collections or anything support this? im not a Mame guy but part of me would love in some way to play Midnight Resistance with this thing
I'm not sure if there will be anything included in the package for downloading SNK's collection. I do know there will be some slight changes between the package that I received and retail packages (i.e. my wires weren't labeled, but retail units will be). Along those same lines, not sure if an insert will be provided with a download code. However, at 06:25 I do show how you can download it for free (at least, at the time of writing this).
@@WagnersTechTalk thats cool stuff, though strange to have SNK branding along with a specific game motief but not include the game in question as a gateway game to entice trying more (there isn't a ton of games out there that take advantage of rotary joysticks, but it would have helped it beyond a hobbyist project) still this is a neat product, but as someone who isn't very tech savey, I dont know theres enough confidence put into the products longevity to make it more then a fun but pricey addition to a digital collection thats free for the moment. It's nice that it can serve as a normal joystick for other programs and such, but I feel like some opportunities might have been missed to make this a more commercial product outside of joystick modders.
@@Gojiro7 You can pick it up for free, currently, if you have Amazon Prime. But yeah, it is a bummer it's not included with the package itself. I did just check with Glen, he confirmed no software included. I can definitely see using this the next time I build a custom cabinet. Might be a project soon now that the Pi5 has been released.
Thanks for this, I’ve preordered the international edition. You’ve put together some really great tips here, especially around the mame part. Ps subbed, now going to watch the retrobat video.
Very welcome, appreciate you watching! Other guides you might find helpful may be found on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#PC_Retro_Gaming . It will go directly to the PC Retro Gaming options, but there are many more guides on that page that cover a bunch of different topics (Steam Dec, Virtual Pinball, etc.) Thank you for subscribing and Welcome!
looks like a quite unique haptic experience, thanks for showing that! best greetings from wolf🐺
Thank you for watching Wolf! GRS did a great job with this kit!
Brilliant Review ❤
Thank you Adam, GRS/Tsticks did an awesome job with this product!
@@WagnersTechTalk 🏁❤️
Got this some months ago and I LOVE... the idea of using it. But it's still unassembled, waiting for the next free Saturday. I'm torn between using the box as the, um, box, but also getting a custom case like The Fighter from Haruman's Customs. I'm actually leaning towards the box since (1) it's already paid for, (2) it's already got the artwork, and (3) if I'm going to be using it as a spinner, I _don't_ want a heavy enclosure on my lap. Plus I figure I could still do the same things our friends in the FGC do to the box, i.e. Neutrik hole for detachable USB and adhesive foam feet to prevent slippage.
I thought about installing it into an Arcade cabinet my son and I built several years ago, may still do it at some point when I have time. I really want to re-work the entire control panel and this stick would be ideal for it. Thank you for watching!
Nice. I was really hoping this could also be used as a spinner too when I noticed it in the product description, but MadLittlePixel's review made no mention of this. Despite this, I already placed my preorder. I'll try it in the box, but I also have an old HotRodSE controller that I may replace the player 2 side with this as I rarely have anyone else play on it (heck, I don't use it much lately and haven't even replaced the old PS/2 encoder with a USB one, just use an adapter every time a take the controller out).
Glen sent me a video that showed it working with Arkanoid and mentioned there would be a firmware update to allow using it as a spinner. That will open the doors for many more games that work with it.
Glen always exceeds my expectations, I cannot wait for the iircade deck with his viperboard, once the batocera or whatever gets developed for thr viperboard I'll hardly use the iircade sbc baby!
Glen does an awesome job! I've never once received/purchased one of his products that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed! He takes the time to make sure it's done right and at a price that is always lower than I personally think it should be priced at. Same here on the iiRcade deck, that one I've pre-ordered and can't wait to upgrade the machine.
I have tried this and it's amazing!
Excellent and professional review as always.
I do have a couple of questions though
1) what size is the joystick body, Happ?
2) is there any way to make the joystick act as an analog stick (like a Brook Fighting Board does)?
3) does the 12 total buttons include the dual mode button?
Thank you, I don't have a digital copy of the manual I can send you to answer those questions. Please drop Glen an e-mail here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact , he may be able to send you the current digital version. All I have is the printed version that came with the kit.
oh wow. This would be perfect for xybots. i love that game, but have not been able to play it properly since the 80s.
I'd love to know how to support this controller in future games. If I understood correctly in this video, the rotational input seems to be mapped to mouse trackball movement on the x-axis together with a sensitivity variable.
Yes, you can also adjust this two different ways by pressing+holding the Mode button for POV Hat, Keystroke or mouse or the WAY button for 8,12 or 16 way. Free way will be in an upcoming update (free spinning), from what I understand.
Hey man great video! I found your channel after watching all of your AtGames 4k videos. I have a question on these joysticks, I did email the company (thunderstick) but they said it wouldn't work. So I have 2 arcade machines that use the LS-30 joysticks, and one of them needs new sticks (Heavy Barrel). Do you know if the wires that come out operate as each switch without USB power? Like I can just connect each wire to the arcade harness, and they would register as inputs? I feel like it would work, but they wrote back and said these couldn't be used with out the interface / converter USB board. Thanks and if you don't know, no worries! Great channel, I am subbing!
Hey brother, thank you for checking out the vids and for your support - greatly appreciated! I don't have an original LS-30 stick here, so I'd definitely go by what thunderstick/GRS have mentioned. I wish I could say based on experience that it would/wouldn't work but I can't. I hope you find past/future content just as interesting, a lot coming. Also, be sure and check out the guides here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides . A lot of how-to type stuff that cover a large number of tech/gaming topics with much more to come!
@@WagnersTechTalk cool man thanks and yeah no problem. I think I will try one anyway, I have their tron joystick and modded that for an arcade cab. Took a bit of work to get it to a commercial level, but I think it's been holding up well after some tweaks. Also I installed it on Polybius, so maybe that's why haha
If you wanted to do two player, would you just get two of these joysticks and flip one box to the blue side for player 2?
Sure, you can. That is why they made one side red and the other blue.
Can this hook up to the alu Wagner if so would love a video for that
Very good question, may have to get with Glen on that one. It's mostly a matter of if the drivers exist and can be mapped to fully support it, not sure on that.
Just received 2 of these yesterday. I setup one, but I can't figure out the right settings to use with Ikari Warriors in MAME.
Anyone have any idea?
The manual doesn't give specific recommendations for specific games, as far as I could find.
I've not watched this video fully yet, but Rexer released one a day ago that covers the RetroArch setup. You can find that video here: ruclips.net/video/RavziBg43_I/видео.html . If you comment there, tell him Wagner sent you 😎 He and I collaborated a little on the Ikari review videos.
Would the rotational joystick be able to emulate steering for driving games?
Yes, should be good for that also.
hi, can you use it with Midnight Resistance?
That isn't a game I've tried, you may want to check with GRS on that.
80 bucks is a helluva good price for this!
Totally agree!!
If you could buy this assembled I would buy it.
why does the panel say 15-30-45 and zero degrees instead of 90-180-270-0/360 degrees as it should
Please give me the timestamp in the format mm:ss , I'm not sure what section you're talking about.
@@WagnersTechTalk - 3:42 - the hole around the joystick
It's how the arcade control panel was designed 😊
@@GlensRetroShow - interesting. I didn't know that. I learned something today