I'll always appreciate this book for the look of anger on my classmates face when I came in one day telling her I was reading Twilight (this was the height of the twilight hype and she was a big fan) only to pull out warriors
Oh wow, I hadn't known Vicky was aware of her cancer so early on -- for whatever reason, I thought that she learned it much later? That DOES give a lot more power to the meta reason why Cinderpelt keeps it from Leafpool, though I wish it had been a terminal illness as opposed to being killed by a badger so it wouldn't feel as if StarClan is just shrugging their shoulders in disquiet (perhaps that would've hit too close to home, however). I feel like a lot more could've been done with this book to build on the political fallout of Starlight + adjusting to the lake territories as a whole. As much as I love more focus being placed on the characters in a series where they seem to often fall by the wayside, this seemed more like an exercise in frustration, jerking themselves in a circle with little progress being made. The second arc's second half should've been focused on reshaping clan dynamics and political intrigue, but maybe that's just the poli-sci nerd in me complaining. Ah, well. At least there's only one book left. PS: I love how you drew Squilf holding her tail as if she's kneading it in anxiety -- showing a lot of personality in just a small action!
I don't know why but at first I thought the drawing was Squirrelflight driving an invisible car through the forest with everyone else fighting in the back seat
Part of me wonders if Cinderpelt's reincarnation was because she accepted that she was dying? Like a secret character test? I'm imagining now that multiple cats get visited before they're about to die and most of them either try and fight fate or complain or lash out or something, whereas Cinderpelt accepted it gracefully and still did what she could for her Clan? One thing that bothers me is the lack of attention on poor Sootfur. He died in the same battle she did, but only Rainwhisker cared, and he was gone by the next arc! Why couldn't Molekit be named Sootkit instead, after the other family member who died that night? (Plus, it would've given them an excuse to not just the kit off, especially if he was Rainwhisker's apprentice, which is very likely given that he was the only available mentor at the time who didn't get an apprentice later in that same arc...) Of all the books in New Prophecy this is the one I remember the least about, to the point where I always think the badger fight is at the end of Midnight. I think I repressed all the love drama. It's always been a pet peeve trope of mine and Warriors handles it very poorly. When Leafpool and Crowfeather got mentioned in Po3 I had to remind myself that, oh yeah, that WAS a thing that happened...
When it comes to the badger attack, I always thought that if the badgers had been living in Thunderclan's new camp and Thunderclan drove them away so they could use hollow as their own camp, it would just make more sense than just having a random badger attack out no where
Aw bell nah 🔔 I'm almost done with the book and this whole time I thought that WAS the issue?? Not the thunderclan camp specifically cause they didn't scent too many badgers BUT other clans admit they'd seen badger sets too. I just assumed the clans took over their territory and that's why they attacked
When I read this book I justified Brambleclaw’s behavior as him being influenced by his brother and father. Pumping up his ego to the point that he thinks he is acting deputy when he certainly is not. Just my assumption as Brambleclaw’s pov doesn’t confirm him being negatively influenced at such a level.
Strangely I always hated Starlight more than Twilight, I have worse memories of that. Like, I don't hate any other warrior cats books, but I always remember Starlight as having the most love-triangle drama which made me angry on behalf of both Bramble and Squilf. Both of them were immature and I think it's unfair to put either of them as victims, they both sucked. I think I have fond memories of Twilight because of the badger attack being so impactful for me.
I somehow managed to skip, or not pay attention to the end of the prologue where it's said the cat wakes up at the MoonPool, i thought it was StarClan welcoming the cat after they died! i would have been much more shocked when Cinderpelt died, but ofc someone spoiled it to me, yet still i had a good 30 minute break crying. It was so heartbreaking to see Cinderpelts energy slowly draining away, and being so hopeless when Leafpool left, since she thought the clan will be left without a Medicine cat, that's kind of the point i would have probably realized she was going to pass, if it wasn't the spoiler D:
Okay, I know this is a dumb thought, but if Leaf and Squirrel's telepathy continued, could they, hypothetically, (never on page, of course) feel their sister conceiving kits? That's gotta be super awkward.
I thought Crowfeather was on the cover. It’s clearly a black cat. Although they did make Cinderpelt’s plush black instead of gray so who knows what color she is 🤷🏻♀️
I’m reading this arc now already knew of Cinderpelt’s death but I didn’t realise it was as lacklustre as that. Would it be worth me getting it at all or just go for the next book or arc at this point?
i forgot how much they had to escalate ashfur's character to make brambleclaw not seem like the absolute worst option, ahfur is still terrible in this book but bramble still wins the biggest asshole award by a mile
Alright yall Idk if anybody rembers the scene with the kits that ventured out of camp and got sick in the rc sickness thing but uh OUCH MY HEART? Like reread it it was in twilight (like pg 160 or smth_
I hate ASHFUR Because He didn't bring his apprentice to the Gathering and he gets to go??????? Why Didn't he bring Birchpaw with him to the gathering GRRRR what a Mean cat🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I'll always appreciate this book for the look of anger on my classmates face when I came in one day telling her I was reading Twilight (this was the height of the twilight hype and she was a big fan) only to pull out warriors
Funny how both of them contained really toxic love triangles...
This made me audibly wheeze
"Are you Team Edward or Team Jacob?!?"
"I'm team Crowfeather, man"
@@JustDuckiest HAHA 😂😂❤❤
Saying "well Ashfur isn't as BAD as Brambleclaw." is essentially saying "well psychological abuse and manipulation aren't as BAD as verbal abuse."
even comparing them at all is awful!! neither of them were good for her my girl should have dated tawnypelt instead😭😭
Don't forget physical assault.
yeah anyone who sees rejection as reason to attempt 4 murders is not mentally stable enough for any relationship
@@true_lovers_knotuhh☠️ tawnypelt is a she cat from a diffrent clan
@@Random_110 im sorry to break the news to you, but lesbians exist and they’re IN WARRIOR CATS!!
Oh wow, I hadn't known Vicky was aware of her cancer so early on -- for whatever reason, I thought that she learned it much later? That DOES give a lot more power to the meta reason why Cinderpelt keeps it from Leafpool, though I wish it had been a terminal illness as opposed to being killed by a badger so it wouldn't feel as if StarClan is just shrugging their shoulders in disquiet (perhaps that would've hit too close to home, however).
I feel like a lot more could've been done with this book to build on the political fallout of Starlight + adjusting to the lake territories as a whole. As much as I love more focus being placed on the characters in a series where they seem to often fall by the wayside, this seemed more like an exercise in frustration, jerking themselves in a circle with little progress being made. The second arc's second half should've been focused on reshaping clan dynamics and political intrigue, but maybe that's just the poli-sci nerd in me complaining. Ah, well. At least there's only one book left.
PS: I love how you drew Squilf holding her tail as if she's kneading it in anxiety -- showing a lot of personality in just a small action!
I'm beginning to think that romance may not be the books' strong suit
I don't know why but at first I thought the drawing was Squirrelflight driving an invisible car through the forest with everyone else fighting in the back seat
XD nice
In the words of Terrible Writing Advice: "Run out of story material for your sequel trilogy turned six-book arc? Just add a love triangle!"
Okay I seriously love the drawing
SQUILF IS HOLDING HER TAIL UDYRXYZRYRZ
We’re almost at the end…next time…a trip to Chuck “E” Cheese…
LOL😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Part of me wonders if Cinderpelt's reincarnation was because she accepted that she was dying? Like a secret character test? I'm imagining now that multiple cats get visited before they're about to die and most of them either try and fight fate or complain or lash out or something, whereas Cinderpelt accepted it gracefully and still did what she could for her Clan?
One thing that bothers me is the lack of attention on poor Sootfur. He died in the same battle she did, but only Rainwhisker cared, and he was gone by the next arc! Why couldn't Molekit be named Sootkit instead, after the other family member who died that night? (Plus, it would've given them an excuse to not just the kit off, especially if he was Rainwhisker's apprentice, which is very likely given that he was the only available mentor at the time who didn't get an apprentice later in that same arc...)
Of all the books in New Prophecy this is the one I remember the least about, to the point where I always think the badger fight is at the end of Midnight. I think I repressed all the love drama. It's always been a pet peeve trope of mine and Warriors handles it very poorly. When Leafpool and Crowfeather got mentioned in Po3 I had to remind myself that, oh yeah, that WAS a thing that happened...
When it comes to the badger attack, I always thought that if the badgers had been living in Thunderclan's new camp and Thunderclan drove them away so they could use hollow as their own camp, it would just make more sense than just having a random badger attack out no where
Aw bell nah 🔔
I'm almost done with the book and this whole time I thought that WAS the issue??
Not the thunderclan camp specifically cause they didn't scent too many badgers BUT other clans admit they'd seen badger sets too.
I just assumed the clans took over their territory and that's why they attacked
When I read this book I justified Brambleclaw’s behavior as him being influenced by his brother and father. Pumping up his ego to the point that he thinks he is acting deputy when he certainly is not. Just my assumption as Brambleclaw’s pov doesn’t confirm him being negatively influenced at such a level.
I have such fond memories of reading TNP as a kid, I forgot what a weirdly paced series it ends up being
Man, i was sure this book had brambleclaw as the pov. I guess cuz it just blends in with the next book so much.
This fully encapsulates my joy and frustrations with reading any of the books!!!!
Strangely I always hated Starlight more than Twilight, I have worse memories of that. Like, I don't hate any other warrior cats books, but I always remember Starlight as having the most love-triangle drama which made me angry on behalf of both Bramble and Squilf. Both of them were immature and I think it's unfair to put either of them as victims, they both sucked. I think I have fond memories of Twilight because of the badger attack being so impactful for me.
I somehow managed to skip, or not pay attention to the end of the prologue where it's said the cat wakes up at the MoonPool, i thought it was StarClan welcoming the cat after they died! i would have been much more shocked when Cinderpelt died, but ofc someone spoiled it to me, yet still i had a good 30 minute break crying. It was so heartbreaking to see Cinderpelts energy slowly draining away, and being so hopeless when Leafpool left, since she thought the clan will be left without a Medicine cat, that's kind of the point i would have probably realized she was going to pass, if it wasn't the spoiler D:
Okay, I know this is a dumb thought, but if Leaf and Squirrel's telepathy continued, could they, hypothetically, (never on page, of course) feel their sister conceiving kits? That's gotta be super awkward.
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I thought Crowfeather was on the cover. It’s clearly a black cat. Although they did make Cinderpelt’s plush black instead of gray so who knows what color she is 🤷🏻♀️
Somehow, even hearing someone summing up this book is painful.
I’m reading this arc now already knew of Cinderpelt’s death but I didn’t realise it was as lacklustre as that. Would it be worth me getting it at all or just go for the next book or arc at this point?
Might as well read the badger fight. I don't remember much about it but it was definitely the highlight of the book.
Hi Sunny! Thanks for uploading this video :D I always love seeing that you've posted a new Warriors analysis or retrospective video.
Can't wait for the next episode 😃
Alexa, play "Listen to Your Heart" from every LeafCrow amv ever.
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i forgot how much they had to escalate ashfur's character to make brambleclaw not seem like the absolute worst option, ahfur is still terrible in this book but bramble still wins the biggest asshole award by a mile
Brambleclaw in this book is just like Tigerclaw was when he was deputy
Screw brambleclaw B(
Agreed
His character is great if you don't think about it!
Absolutely 💯
Alright yall
Idk if anybody rembers the scene with the kits that ventured out of camp and got sick in the rc sickness thing but uh
OUCH MY HEART?
Like reread it it was in twilight (like pg 160 or smth_
I hate ASHFUR Because He didn't bring his apprentice to the Gathering and he gets to go??????? Why Didn't he bring Birchpaw with him to the gathering GRRRR what a Mean cat🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Hey I don't know if someone already pointed it out by the CC's are way off timing-wise.
Oh gosh, all right I'll go in and fix them manually, they should be better by tomorrow at the latest
It should be fixed now.
Still a better love story than twilight
1st maybe!