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I do think Arthur loved Marilyn in ways that will never be publicly known or understood. I also believe he was certainly a man of his era; sort of emotionally limited. This interviewer is right. Arthur’s face changes when he talks about Marilyn. At times (in various interviews), I see guilt and sadness and pain, and some fleeting moments I see fondness, nostalgia, and love. His face lights up.
Such celebrities are mediums in a way. The stardom is a creation of unfulfilled parts of others and the person . Not knowing and integrating leads to destruction.
Arthur comes off as intelligent but emotionally unavailable cold and distant when it came to Marylin, exactly what drew her to him, his unavailability...repeating old patterns of a distorted definition of love. You can’t blame either...that’s how broken people “bond”...
Or maybe he feels private about his relationships and everyone wants to dig into the story of Marilyn and he just doesn’t want to feed the beast. The beast of insatiable stupid curiosity.
I think that this guy was probably responsible for her death. It's a theory. I mean....he was hung up on her, and she was getting with guys like Joe DiMaggio and JFK (liking them better more than likely, too). She probably liked the last two guys better than they took to her as well. On a tangent here, she did convert to Judaism when she married Arthur Miller (even though she did nude spreads in print back in the day prior to "finding religion").
I think it's interesting that today there is a public assumption that 'previous generations repressed and never talked about depression or mental health', but I think this is not true. Some people in every generation have repressed these conversations, but this interview is a good example of how it was considered in the mid-late 20th century. Right at the beginning of this (fairly centrist) broadcast from 1987 - "bitter depression" is faced head-on. Then throughout the whole interview, there is a serious conversation about feelings, therapy, relationships, etc. I guess the big difference is that these topics are dealt with through the lens of resilience, moral principles, choices, and responsibility. Rare to see today.
It's admirable that at 72 Miller is still doing what he loves - writing plays. This requires no explanation or apology. It's what artists do. When he is unable to create anymore, feel that restless urge, that sense of wonderment, he'll know then that it's Game Over, and the curtain will descend for the last time.
She wanted to be loved and accepted just like any other human being,because she never got that in childhood,she ended up trying to please the wrong people, ones who plotted her downfall. People should never judge, when you have not had an abusive terrible childhood,you will never know the impact it has on a person,it srays with them all their life. Arthur was a beautiful soul a caring,loving person, others were powerful,egotistical men, who don't like to see pewerful good looking women in a good light, so they use them,abuse them and call themselves men,when they are nothing but cowards, who need to keep proving to people they are men. Arthur was a real man, he never used or abused Marilyn.
Conveniently not asked about was Arthur Miller's son, Daniel, who was born with Down Syndrome. This great intellect, dumped his own son in a home for infants. While Miller was an amazing playwright, it is terrible the interview was not more honest.
He didn't dump his child. Read his autobiography and the film his daughter made. Arthur and his wife decided sending their son to an institution would provide the best life for him. Arthur even wrote about how much he 'wept' for Daniel in his book. Also in his daughter's film, they talk about how Arthur and the rest of the family all kept in contact with Daniel Miller.
Of couse she was sensitive, she still loved her mother after what she did to her many would never forgive a mother who tried to kill them,she forgave and even criec over her mum, if only her mother was as loving and caring to her. Its hard not to love your mother its part of our blood, but even a child who has been abused can forget the abuse,or what happened,because as a child the humsn brain blocks out very trauamatic events,its like a safety thing because its too painful to take,it stays a lifetime in our subco ncious mind. Some kids grow up not remembering some of the abuse,their brain shut it out as it was too painful.
Once upon a time he wrote in his diary that he was embarassed by Marilyn in front of his friends. Thats a horrible thing to do to his wife. Instead of criticising Marilyn he should have been supporting her, especially in her darkest moments. Now, I have never met Miller, but based on this, I wouldn't want to have met him. I think he's nothing but a vulture.
well, you cant choose when or for whom you feel embarassed!!! You can‘t change that feeling or make it go away. Should he lie, so you and some dudes decades later can feel better about him?
@@mariostummer9925 Oh really? So tell me this then. How would you feel if you were married to someone like this and they wrote things about you in their journal that you didn't like?
To me, Arthur Miller comes across as cold and distant. It doesnt seem like he has much loving for anyone, except maybe himself. No disrespect to his family; but I think Marilyn made the mistake of depending on a man for her happiness and I think whenever a woman or anyone really, relies on someone for their happiness, he/she is ultimately or eventually disappointed.
If only Marilyn had left Hollywood,at the time she w was in deep depression about loosing their baby and got the right help,the rest and the right doctor, she would have been still happy with Arthur,he was a real man,who loved and took care of her,but her distruction was caused by Hollywood and what they did to a vurnerable actress and woman who was in grief about loosing their child. IF a doctor in this modern day did that,to a patient,he would be struck off and charged with murder. They killed her with those drugs and the fact they were afraid the,then government would be in trouble, if people found out about any infidelity.
Sorry if this a repeated comment but aged 11 I used to role play with my mother: "Arthur! Arthur Miller!" It was a name I'd heard, I think, rather than that I identified with Marilyn Monroe.
Frederick Rapp he’s a writer, don’t get too caught up in terminology in his mind an instrument could mean totally something else than what you would bluntly interpret
He’s was a playwright . That language “ super sensitive instrument” is the language of a writer about an actress. Many actors and acting teachers use the expression of being an instrument for your work. Completely understandable expression.
He considers the break down of the relationship a failure, he feels like he’s failed to save her, only no one could have saved her, she was on a path of self-destruction. People hear but they don’t listen! Go on hear it again, and this time try to listen. Your comment is the perfect odd to the density of the inhabitants of this planet.
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Arthur Miller was such an intellectual person.
he was an idiot.
Absolute sincerity when discussing Marilyn. You can see the sadness still when this interview was done.
Exactly. People who believe Arthur did not love her and deeply cared for her are nuts.
I do think Arthur loved Marilyn in ways that will never be publicly known or understood. I also believe he was certainly a man of his era; sort of emotionally limited. This interviewer is right. Arthur’s face changes when he talks about Marilyn. At times (in various interviews), I see guilt and sadness and pain, and some fleeting moments I see fondness, nostalgia, and love. His face lights up.
Who else is watching this video for school work
I'm hereeee
He described Marilyn Monroe as a “super sensitive instrument.” Interesting choice of words.
Could it be. ..she was a médium? Also he said here she Had revelations about people..
Lol@@meirymuniz1791
Such celebrities are mediums in a way. The stardom is a creation of unfulfilled parts of others and the person . Not knowing and integrating leads to destruction.
Arthur comes off as intelligent but emotionally unavailable cold and distant when it came to Marylin, exactly what drew her to him, his unavailability...repeating old patterns of a distorted definition of love. You can’t blame either...that’s how broken people “bond”...
Or maybe he feels private about his relationships and everyone wants to dig into the story of Marilyn and he just doesn’t want to feed the beast. The beast of insatiable stupid curiosity.
@@user-dn8hd1de2d there’s that, and there’s the obvious, not something you have to dig to know.
@@IGlowIFlow you’re spot on x ❤️ in my opinion, you nailed it ….
I think that this guy was probably responsible for her death. It's a theory. I mean....he was hung up on her, and she was getting with guys like Joe DiMaggio and JFK (liking them better more than likely, too). She probably liked the last two guys better than they took to her as well. On a tangent here, she did convert to Judaism when she married Arthur Miller (even though she did nude spreads in print back in the day prior to "finding religion").
I don’t see that at all, that sounds like your projection more likely.
I think it's interesting that today there is a public assumption that 'previous generations repressed and never talked about depression or mental health', but I think this is not true. Some people in every generation have repressed these conversations, but this interview is a good example of how it was considered in the mid-late 20th century. Right at the beginning of this (fairly centrist) broadcast from 1987 - "bitter depression" is faced head-on. Then throughout the whole interview, there is a serious conversation about feelings, therapy, relationships, etc.
I guess the big difference is that these topics are dealt with through the lens of resilience, moral principles, choices, and responsibility. Rare to see today.
Maybe his writing was his therapy.
It's admirable that at 72 Miller is still doing what he loves - writing plays. This requires no explanation or apology. It's what artists do. When he is unable to create anymore, feel that restless urge, that sense of wonderment, he'll know then that it's Game Over, and the curtain will descend for the last time.
She wanted to be loved and accepted just like any other human being,because she never got that in childhood,she ended up trying to please the wrong people, ones who plotted her downfall. People should never judge, when you have not had an abusive terrible childhood,you will never know the impact it has on a person,it srays with them all their life. Arthur was a beautiful soul a caring,loving person, others were powerful,egotistical men, who don't like to see pewerful good looking women in a good light, so they use them,abuse them and call themselves men,when they are nothing but cowards, who need to keep proving to people they are men. Arthur was a real man, he never used or abused Marilyn.
You're so self-important. How do you know? Did know her personally or him? Maybe she was a nut job like most women.
What’s this ? A revisionist historical account?
Nothing like they did to Joan of Arc.
Conveniently not asked about was Arthur Miller's son, Daniel, who was born with Down Syndrome. This great intellect, dumped his own son in a home for infants. While Miller was an amazing playwright, it is terrible the interview was not more honest.
So he left his child? Wtf 🌚
Did you want him to nurse his child all his life? Interesting 🤔
Sad 😞
He didn't dump his child. Read his autobiography and the film his daughter made. Arthur and his wife decided sending their son to an institution would provide the best life for him. Arthur even wrote about how much he 'wept' for Daniel in his book. Also in his daughter's film, they talk about how Arthur and the rest of the family all kept in contact with Daniel Miller.
Ok…and
Of couse she was sensitive,
she still loved her mother after what she did to her many would never forgive a mother who tried to kill them,she forgave and even criec over her mum, if only her mother was as loving and caring to her. Its hard not to love your mother its part of our blood, but even a child who has been abused can forget the abuse,or what happened,because as a child the humsn brain blocks out very trauamatic events,its like a safety thing because its too painful to take,it stays a lifetime in our subco
ncious mind. Some kids grow up not remembering some of the abuse,their brain shut it out as it was too painful.
Once upon a time he wrote in his diary that he was embarassed by Marilyn in front of his friends.
Thats a horrible thing to do to his wife. Instead of criticising Marilyn he should have been supporting her, especially in her darkest moments.
Now, I have never met Miller, but based on this, I wouldn't want to have met him. I think he's nothing but a vulture.
That's probably a reason he was a writer.
well, you cant choose when or for whom you feel embarassed!!! You can‘t change that feeling or make it go away.
Should he lie, so you and some dudes decades later can feel better about him?
@@mariostummer9925
Oh really?
So tell me this then. How would you feel if you were married to someone like this and they wrote things about you in their journal that you didn't like?
Anybody doing an annotated Bibliography at like 11 and running on 4 hours of sleep from an apush essay prior rn ahaha ahaha could never be me
Cpt. WaddleDoo haha McCarthyism research essay due at 11:59 tonight? U go to pchs??
omgg same
Hollywood creates illusions
Marilyn's heart wasn't a illusion!
I will always respect Joe he never spoke of marilyn he loved her in silent he was I think the one for her and also the first husband too
To me, Arthur Miller comes across as cold and distant. It doesnt seem like he has much loving for anyone, except maybe himself. No disrespect to his family; but I think Marilyn made the mistake of depending on a man for her happiness and I think whenever a woman or anyone really, relies on someone for their happiness, he/she is ultimately or eventually disappointed.
Just the sort of person who is a writer - all the ingredients - contradictory.
8:17 thats when he starts Lets the mask of coldness drop...
Ok, Freud.
He feels guilty about Marilyn. You can tell.
Yes girl I think it was eating at him at the end of his days
Leitura prazerosa_ sabia fazer as palavras seguirem dançando c nossa atenção. Um dos melhores escritores q já li.
If only Marilyn had left Hollywood,at the time she w
was in deep depression about loosing their baby and got the right help,the rest and the right doctor, she would have been still happy with Arthur,he was a real man,who loved and took care of her,but her distruction was caused by Hollywood and what they did to a vurnerable actress and woman who was in grief about loosing their child. IF a doctor in this modern day did that,to a patient,he would be struck off and charged with murder. They killed her with those drugs and the fact they were afraid the,then government would be in trouble, if people found out about any infidelity.
Sorry if this a repeated comment but aged 11 I used to role play with my mother: "Arthur! Arthur Miller!" It was a name I'd heard, I think, rather than that I identified with Marilyn Monroe.
He reminds me of David Chase.
He was a wonderful man.
He absolutely was not! He institutionalized and abandoned his son.
You have such a weak judgment of character. Or maybe you’re into nasty men.
@@annakat3754 Agree to disagree.
Looks like my grandfather
I would never describe any woman as a “super sensitive instrument,” let alone a woman that I claimed to have once “loved.” What’s the matter with him?
He's defining her by whats always been available to him, intellectual terms.
Frederick Rapp he’s a writer, don’t get too caught up in terminology in his mind an instrument could mean totally something else than what you would bluntly interpret
Completely different times. You're in 2020. The man being interviewed was born in 1915
@@smellyskunk376 what's wrong with the term super sensitive instrument? Even today? Which of those three words is considered bad? I'm not getting it.
He’s was a playwright . That language “ super sensitive instrument” is the language of a writer about an actress.
Many actors and acting teachers use the expression of being an instrument for your work.
Completely understandable expression.
Kasan was crazy!
They left out the Hotel Chelsea years.
this man is such a snake !! he used every tool to climb up and then threw it away
Arthur Miller knew what a sham the American dream really is.
I think what you say is true. Death of A Salesman is a classic comment on that.
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I would not call marriage to monroe a failure
He considers the break down of the relationship a failure, he feels like he’s failed to save her, only no one could have saved her, she was on a path of self-destruction. People hear but they don’t listen! Go on hear it again, and this time try to listen. Your comment is the perfect odd to the density of the inhabitants of this planet.
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Narcosis
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He was toxic husband
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