40/40 Vision Lecture: Neurology and the Passion for Art
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Why is it that great works of art seem to have a universal appeal, transcending cultural and geographic boundaries? V.S. Ramachandran, director of UCSD's Center for Brain and Cognition has studied how the brain perceives works of art and thinks he may know the answer to this intriguing question. Recorded on 10/18/2000. [11/2000] [Show ID: 5224]
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I had the wonderful opportunity of attending Dr. Ramachandran's "Logic of Perception" courses a number of years ago. He's a brilliant lecturer and just sort of commands the subject when he speaks. His ideas about grouping in artwork and the "rasa" opened up an entirely new perspective of life for me, and I continue to draw upon them today. He's awesome.
" There is Dada, which is not even art "
V.S. Ramachandran
An hour worth spent watching this... nice to see a person with passion, it is infective and feels good
Ramachandran's practical approach to neurology is always captivating!
I love his explicit honesty. He observes everything, but carefully considers proposed explanations and the reality. What he does educates us and challenges traditional understandings in favor of the truth.
As an artist and art tutor I was particularly taken with this lecture. The description of what happens in the brain when viewing art is so informative and makes perfect sense to me as an artist and not a scientist. I particularly enjoyed the description of why high realism and/or photos, have a different effect than something more emotive (as an artist would describe it). Brilliant.
As a scientist, Mr. Ramachandran is deeply committed to understanding why he has no artistic sense. And, after much reaearch, he comes up with a brilliant answer: he is normal.
Artistic sense is so subjective. What makes appeals to me may not appeal to you...and there in lies the beauty of art.
The definition of a GREAT teacher .
" THE ABILITY TO KNOW AND TO IMPART THEIR KNOWLEDGE ".
V.S. Ramachandran IS THE MAN!!
The rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrasa of Rrrrrrrrrrrrrramachandran! =D
Terrific video. =)
From University psychology classes, I've learned that children go through a "sensitive" phase during their language aquisition. Therefore they pick up language a lot faster than adults (obvious). As a child, I learned both Hindi and English, therefore I became fluent at both. Where as Rama, he learned Hindi or Tamil, and then sometime after his sensitive period, he learned english.
So you're right, It's just simple child hood language aquisition.
A breathtakingly lucid analysis.
Wow... Is this the hindu Neil Degrasse Tyson or what?
I loved the video btw
Neuroscience is so awesome. It is applicable to all human enterprises because ALL thought is produced by the brain and thoughts drive our every move.
wow! what a rectangle!!!
Awesome presentation! V.S. Ramachandra delivers it with very real knowledge and passion. It is a powerful and moving presentation for dry topics that would otherwise be difficult to digest. Amazing job. Thank you for posting it.
Fantastic! Made my day. Improved my understanding of life.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
This is fascinating, love the rolling Rs as well.
Thanks...I agree...it's just they can't do what I do...it's always been that way
My grandfather was an inventor and we got along great!
All the best,
Susan
Love this topic. My mom saw auras all of her life. I don't know if she knew, but the specific colors she saw meant the same as what others see.
@iidontcareeee Thanks for checking out my page!
Amazing! Thank you for uploading this, I enjoyed it SO much.
excellent!
amazing content, and well-delivered too
I wish all teachers were this enthusiastic when they teach
Is there a way to give someone Prosopagnosia, like especially if you just want to hit it and quit it and you don't want the girl to recognize and stalk you?
OPINION>abstraction from your knowledge(mind), evaluation, not the experience itself.
FEELING>direct experience, perception, in present time(here and now)
Thanks Dr Ramachandran for all the "RASA" of knowledge.
Dr M.Mahesh Mysore
This is great. Ramachandran is always a good laugh and also very informative.
1, 2, 3, 4 sided shapes suggest communication .. past 4 is an imperfect circle (circles suggest eternity/death)... until you get to about a 20 sided shape which is a seamless circle (eternity/painless death)
Thank you. How great you are!
let me get back to that: allthough some is outdated, very enriching and briliant. i like it a lot!
Love this, great knowledge.
I wrote that two years ago, had to look up even what you were referencing to remember. You don't need to attack me personally - it was a nasty thing to receive in my inbox. And I'm not boring, at all.
This dude low-key funny
my kids better damn well sweat when they see me... I love these lectures...love...peace ..:-)
Art of neorology is IN the NOW-wOM! Namaste !
thats my motto too 'turn the world on its head' its great for generating new ideas :)
From the sculputures which one would you give or select as a highly satisfying. TO THOSE WHO OWN IT NOW. AND WHATS THAT POSE.
brilliant talk
I wish my college instructors were more like this guy.
Wow thanks for uploading; a lot of information to study from this lecture.
great lecture.....
Phenomenal insight in to understanding great artists.brilliant practical analysis.
Amazing stuff, thank you :)
I used to agree for the most part with his thesis, but having been introduced to the ideas of Freud and Lacan, I've found a big problem. Meaning for an animal is fixed, that much is true. The baby bird will peck at that stick, and, sure enough, slight variations on it. But a human's desire is a property of signification, of concepts pointing to things coming into being for the individual. Meaning for us is in flux, communal, and the object of that desire will only remain so if it is not held.
Just beautiful !
I took that seriously for a moment. I thought it was like a variation on British English in India. But then I remembered this was put together at UCSD! :P
My god, the way he rolls his R's
what a boss!
I really enjoyed this lecture. It seemed to me like the audience was trying to tear him apart in the Q and A though.
Wow just fantastic.
22:48 F word and violence. Great analogy
I am kinda upset that I had never heard this guy till now. I have never felt like there's a field I should go into but this I could study forever and not consider it work!
Interesting fella
This explains why realistic art that is too realistic does not really do anything for me. I dont want this world, I want to be transported to another.
excellent....thank you.
yes! i love rama.
@WhatsTheMusicCalled: A detailed introduction on progressive research frames in accepted parameters, the credibility of information about to be presented. Suggestion: voluntary audience members learn how to be attentive recipients by observation; one way to accomplish this can be to listen first even to one's individual reactions.
Observing new information content as well as ones reactions, one learns something new not only about the information, rather also about oneself in discovery of it!
neuroaesthetics is a very interesting thing though.
Great
I love the existence demonstration experiment for synesthesia.
He sounds like he knows what he is talking about.
@doriankilledsibyl: Bravo for voicing your opinion!
He is amazing
@iidontcareeee Dude, I was just talking about a one night stand. Lighten up. It's the new millenium.
@KeiSam7 Depends on how the teacher interprets what they're teaching.
That cube on the bottom left is freaking me out.
@KeiSam7
But if a teacher is teaching his material, his field of study, he should have a passion for it. Its the teacher's job to insight curiosity within the students.
I dont agree with him saying the purpose of art is to exaggerate to please the eye.
Artist exaggeration is to hight light to bring viewers attention to that which we normally miss
RAZA and CHOLA are 2 words I didn't expect to hear.
Very good!
nice art!!!!!!!
V Ramachandran's RUclips Lecture
Criticism:
1. He is only talking in consideration of specific art and art forms and only considering specific features of the selected art which support his arguments and his proposed laws.
2. Culture plays a big role in what we call art and how we respond to it.
3. Art as a term has been used very loosely and he had stuck to its traditional forms and meanings.
"Dada, which is not even art"- strong objection, dadaism was a movement for the artistic depiction of confusion and meaninglessness which WWII mentally gave the citizens
4. His explanations for how one cognitively responds to art are very vague like 'some little part of your brain triggers a response', 'your brain finds this distortion amusing' (paraphrased) including the seagull metaphor. Such views come with hardly any scientific, empirical backing other than the far-fetched association with galvanic response.
5. Chompsky's universal grammar and a universal grammar for vision
What essentially makes art different from science and enjoyable for most part, is the varied response it gets from its consumers. Attempting to codify all reactions in to some universal laws defies the very purpose of art.
Art cannot be contained.
6. "The purpose of art is not realism."
Okay, there are a lot of problems with this statement.
7. Contrast, grouping, isolation, etc are all basic techniques found in any artistic piece in order to elicit the so called aha response in the viewers. This is not a new discovery. he has clearly not gone through Elements of Art and Principles of Design.
8. He spends too much time in art appreciation and perspective taking than delving into how people cognitively appraise aesthetics of visual art.
Dada mort certainly is Art. It laid the foundations for surrealism.
this is awesome
@Ilavenya thanks
thanks for all this : )
He makes art less bullshit and more beautiful to me.
@Xenophanes21 Yep, my fault, right? I'm taking Intro to Art. There's a way to be a male a teacher with humor that appeals to both genders.
The start was like how a boxer gets anounced
1:13:51
Have you tried doing that?
It's terribly uncomfortable!
I'm a professional fine artist..pet and composer...go to google and youtube....
my family often tells me I'm weird...I always thought everything I do was just normal...but they see it as weird.
Bravo
@imagineers0 i don't understand what you mean, "they meant the same as what others see". do colors mean something?
He's rolling is R's just to mess with us.
Don't listen to your family. Being weird is normal, being normal is weird.
@michalchik you know, it 's not like I'm crying myself to sleep at night. I just posted my reaction to a youtube video.
Remarkable
When was this speech?
good question.Opinions involve all or some of the following: thinking,knowledge,Ideation, comparison, evaluation. e.g I like Stravinsky better than Mozart.that's a comparative opinion. Opinions are different than facts. the sun is hot. that's not an opinion. On the other hand Feelings are more like sensations, emotions. for example anger. feelings are factual.one cannot argue with them. if you feel hungry it's not an idea or opinion it's a fact.now smell a turd.the feeling is disgust unarguably.
I remember the venus-statues found, from prehistoric Europe. What Ramachandran says must go way back to the roots of our excistence.
@doriankilledsibyl And also! If you recognize that "that there is a problem here," then at least my comment allowed us all to talk about it, right? I mean, there's nothing wrong with me putting it out there... And discussion is healthy!
@omarivero
Ok. What is the difference between an opinion and a feeling?
Yeah you're right. I'm of Indian decent and I can do the RR too. It's just that I was born in Canada, so I can do both, unlike Dr. Rama who just does the RR for all Rs ;).
@Xenophanes21: Art is classified as a male-dominated field by sheer reality that attention has historically and continues to be focused disproportionately on male art-making. Yet, women artists have been present from the beginning, working consistently outside of the limelight of patriarchal attention. A system of social structuring that distorts everyone; no pre-chosen gender qualifications required_ exactly what is distorted individually.
Very informative and interesting! I would love to follow up on his theories. And not to nitpick, but "responses" is spelled incorrectly at 1:19:18. :P
I'm no scientist but I'd say it's not necessarily an ethnicity thing but in fact more of a cultural thing: I'm pretty sure you learned to speak hindi, probably durng your childhood, and that is what allows you to be able to make both sounds. Am I correct?
@HeathMc I think pleasing and disgusting could be a better use of words to describe what Ramachandran means when he says everyone like picasso. I can LIKE one flower better than another but it does not mean that i am disgusted by the lesser one nor that im disgusted by flowers and it doesnt mean that everyone likes flowers but it means that an image of a plant does not conjure up disgust. So, images evoke emotions and what you are pointing to might be an opinion rather than a feeling.
@BoStevoD I don't get what you mean