I suddenly had this surge of inspiration for a thumbnail idea after already releasing the video, just had to go make it police guard Noelle a thing. I find it funny and basically what Noelle does in this match-up anyways.
From my experience there are two types of Noelle OTK. One is a rush deck primarily suitable for PVE. The idea is to get Noelle's ult asap by using her normal attacks on early turns, and only switch to avoid large incoming damage. Another is a slower control deck better suited for PVP. The goal is to outlast your opponent while cycling through your entire deck to prepare for a guaranteed OTK.
thanks for this informative gameplay, still waiting for complete guide for this deck, i love it so much cuz this deck is mad tanky and funny. your works are rly good keep it up
Im also using the same concept, except im using barbara in place of ganyu, she helps creating shields by crystalize and also provides insane healing which makes the deck a lot more annoying for players who face it.
Ty I beat an ayakamiya deck just now after watching this video I saw that u played a lot slower countering their moves, tbh it takes a great understanding of the deck and game to do that Instead i got aggressive and charged up noelles ult early before their yoimiya so that when she switched to ayaka it was already sweeping time :)
Yes I was so confused with your play, ayaka was doing 1 damage to your ganyu, no danger to charge your burst, but then you switched to noelle to shield again for some reason xD still cool to see how you recovered. And you could add whatever music to the x4 speed up, also adding black border to the white letters helps to read it easier but you decide
i was wondering have you ever tried mona/xingqiu/rhodeia in place of ganyu? or maybe the lawachurl in place of ningguang? just wanna know your opinion on those
This is something I'd want to cover in my guide as well, but I'm already here so might as well. Base: What Ganyu brings to the table is basic elemental application, and Ganyu burst is 2 energy and effectively does 3 damage to all enemies. 1) Mona elemental skill provides better element application than Ganyu because if opponent changes character they'll also get hydro later. Mona also is a free "Leave it to me". Both are great aspects, trade for more utility from Mona instead of damage from Ganyu. 2) Xingqiu elemental skill basically same as Ganyu, but Xingqiu hydro himself all the time and I kinda just don't personally like it (smarter people than me can make it cancel reactions, I'd just make it help the opponent do more damage). He works fine though, trade for more single target damage from Xingqiu instead of AoE damage from Ganyu. 3) Rhodeia is weird, her elemental skill is effectively better than Ganyu and the other two above, but the value is delayed. The damage is really good for single target too, since ending a round with all three summons can equal 5 hydro damage on one enemy. Trade for more of a duel carry using Rhodeia instead of a supportive role from Ganyu. 4) Lawachurl is basically a more damage focused Geo alternative. Effectively 11 HP to start, and +1 dmg per round effectively enables a massive 4 damage with elemental skill, that easily gives Noelle Wolf's Gravestone execution. With a 2 energy cost burst, also extremely good with Adeptus’ Temptation doing a whole 8-9 damage. I think Lawachurl is legitimately a better choice with more flexibility and durability than Ningguang, but I just personally like Ningguang for a defensive elemental skill. TL;DR All three Ganyu replacement suggestions are fine, just know what you want to use them for. Lawachurl probably actually better over Ningguang, but personally I like Ningguang, that's really it.
@@lilahliliumlily9883 i just tried noelle ganyu lawachurl against ayaka yoimiya xingqiu (unfortunately for me the person knew how to handle their deck). lawachurl carried the last 2 rounds lol, tanking xingqiu swords + yoi explosion and landing the final hit maybe i’ll try a deck with ning in the future. thanks for the input👍
Lawachurl is so OP on turn 1. If you got Geo +1 dice, bit of luck on rolling dice and 2 cost Paimon helps too. He can OTK any unit off guard. Turn 1 - Elemental skill (4 damage), turn 2 - same (3 damage), turn 3 use +1 Geo dice and burn action cards for Geo dice (they will be caught off guard with this) and E skill again (3 damage) or burst if enemies are somewhat shielded or healed. That's 4+3+3 in 1 turn lmao. I killed many Yoimiya setters with this and they will instantly rage quit. 😂
You ate a lot of food. This gameplay expanded my horison to the new level. Well played. I will only play on NPC only aside from 1 pvp as most of pvp is toxic.
The genshin community really needs to stop using the OTK term. OTK=One Turn Kill, which is when you kill your opponent from 100% hp to zero in one turn, or one round in genshin terms. This is not a OTK deck by any means, it's more of a grinder deck which means they stall out the game, slowly doing chip damage. Half of the enemy units were dead before round 5...
nice first roll lol. although his big mistake is that seeing that you will get 1st turn next round with pretty decent setup, he should have played quicker Diona shield -> either switch and attack if he can, or end round there, instead of trying to set those supports. and well, they all have same issue of not being flexible enough. like 5:47 switch to Diona is good, but then he switched back to muh Ayamiya setup. Big mistake. It's a Noelle 2 geo team. Ofc the win con is on Noelle, either turtling or just use ult. would have been clear if they had just read her skill description.
Any double geo with Noelle and a non-geo heavy attacker character like Razor, especially with Mirror Maiden can counter Yoiyaka OTK pretty hard though. You can usually sneak up Adeptus food to kill or heavily damage one important character before they can do their thing. Mirror Maiden especially when she use her card which can cause switching to cost 1 additional dice. Razor and Noelle have their burst damage boost after initial burst, Razor burst if the opponent die before the wolf hit, the wolf will go for the next active character. Lawachurl, Mirror Maiden, Noelle together all of them only cost 2 energy for one burst, allowing a quick heavy blow, with Adeptus food can be lethal very early dealing up to 8 damage.
I use a noelle xq mona mona is just a sac unit, you have the switch bonus and the skill to guard off some damage when switching to xq for ult set up. I set up artifacts weapons and fluff during mona's life. Is more dpendant on Noelle popping off and 1 or 2 turn ko game but also simpler to play, you do sacrifice the geo resonance but the game should only last 5 rounds max
Good video, this deck actually loses to Yoi/Ayaka/Chongyun the hardest I beat basically everything else, use slightly different cards but I might tweak it for even more dice. I figured I can delay or just eat their bursts with ning or noelle and usually ganyu comes out and dies or gets very low first. Super strong comp, but it can struggle against some. Yoimiya is so annoying to fight but I usually beat it with this
Yoimiya is a beast. But I'll rather have XQ than ayaka. Xq basically forces your opponent to switch characters to not get frozen which gives you a free turn and waste a dice. Also dmg reduction. xq burst deals Dmg with every NA which synergise with yoi much better.
Im using this deck too, but im using oceanid instead of ganyu since her summon can easily apply hydro and trigger crystallize. Noelle otk is a good deck tho
So real quick, just wanna put this out there: The opponent wasn’t actually playing the Ayaka/Yoimiya deck very well. In fact, it’s not even the scary version (the supports are wrong, and diona is bad). Still, good show.
Tried it myself, and have to say it's a very fun and also very strong deck Starting almost every fight with sacrificial goat allows to fit a frostflake arrow shot and/or ult which leaves every enemy around ~6-8 hp before she dies, so the cleanup with Noelle afterwards is usually pretty easy I wonder if they'll nerf minty rolls eventually, because omnidice generation + minty rolls feels too op Geo resonance also pretty strong disabling most high damage combos
you don't need it with this comp. I ran this comp as a test, normally use kathryn but didn't use it here I basically won because they just can't damage you the way you can damage them and I delay with ninguang if I don't pull good early ganyu setup seems pretty decent, won 7/10 in first tests
I usually don't use Katheryne, only time I expect to want priority in my movement is when Noelle needs to keep a character in check, which two "Leave it to me" does, otherwise I rather not steal priority and risk ending turn first. That's basically my reasoning, and that there are also many times it's better to just waste a combat turn switching to a character to force opponent to do something, which Katheryne can't be turned off to let me do that if the situation calls for it.
@@lilahliliumlily9883 this, and with heavy card drawing and dice generation, you are gonna have extra hits everywhere with this comp. Chef Mao is broken weaved into this build
I thought so when I first start playing but as it turns out Kathy is actually not as good as it seems. In this game, going first and going second can both be advantageous depending on the situation. In an OTK deck, going second is better therefore you don't want the quick action. You want your opponent to finish their turn early which opens up opportunity for you to excute an OTK.
Following my point, Kathy is also bad because your enemy knows that EVERY of your switch is fast action. That predictability makes it less good in PVP, compared to event card Leave it to Me.
Yup, Ningguang just a more defensive second geo option, Lawachurl is a more offensive one, so make your values worth and hit them hard with that +1 dmg buff.
Xingqiu would be a better choice as you get to reapply hydro after every hit. This will let you gain an insane amount of shields. Calx's will help you build Xingqiu without the hydro self application.
Throughout 3 days ago til now, i have used noelle team with xingqiu while faced someone with a ganyu instead twice. Won both games with a record 11-2. Edit: i was losing a bit more than half my games before against ganyu, ayaka or yoimiya teams.
Lawachurl is perfectly good too, a more offensive second geo option over Ningguang basically since Lawachurl hits way harder. Only provides damage but it's very good damage.
Bruh the yoiyaka play horrible XD Yoimiya burst was supposed to be active since round 2 so the fun start there and the enemy team die in round 3-4 But wtf was the yoiyaka even doing XD
OTK or one turn kill is basically a setup when you place many buff or combo in turn before and you gonna all out in the next turn and clean all the enemies in one turn sweep
Ohhh ni e thanks also thanks for the vid. I love noell the tcg has given me inspiration to make her reallyngood not just in tcg hut also in genshin proper
@@Kindi001 The genshin community really needs to stop using this term. OTK=One Turn Kill, is when you kill your opponent from 100%hp to zero, in one turn, or one round in genshin terms. This is not a OTK deck by any means, it's more of a grinder deck which means they stall out the game, slowly doing chip damage.
One Turn Kill. So for example, right now in Genshin TCG, Ayaka and Yoimiya deck has a strategy that involves them setting up cards on and using Yoimiya's burst and Ayaka's Cryo infusion to wipe out all three opposing characters in one turn. The set up is usually on turns 1 and 2, and usually the OTK comes on turn 3.
Um if u want to demonstrate something, at least bring a good example :d You groaned all over this video. Can't u record another match? Edit: I watched till the end. It was not even an OTK match. Clickbait warning
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I suddenly had this surge of inspiration for a thumbnail idea after already releasing the video, just had to go make it police guard Noelle a thing. I find it funny and basically what Noelle does in this match-up anyways.
Police noelle is a great skin idea
From my experience there are two types of Noelle OTK. One is a rush deck primarily suitable for PVE. The idea is to get Noelle's ult asap by using her normal attacks on early turns, and only switch to avoid large incoming damage. Another is a slower control deck better suited for PVP. The goal is to outlast your opponent while cycling through your entire deck to prepare for a guaranteed OTK.
thanks for this informative gameplay, still waiting for complete guide for this deck, i love it so much cuz this deck is mad tanky and funny. your works are rly good keep it up
Noelle really keeping decks in check
I love that Noelle got some love in the TCG. I'm a Noelle main, so the first deck I made was such.
Thanks a lot for the clip and the deck i was struggling with this Yoiyaka thing
Im also using the same concept, except im using barbara in place of ganyu, she helps creating shields by crystalize and also provides insane healing which makes the deck a lot more annoying for players who face it.
For me I replace Ganyu by Mona, she help apply hydro & her E give dmg reduction too, and her passive give fast action when switch from her to Noelle
Ty I beat an ayakamiya deck just now after watching this video
I saw that u played a lot slower countering their moves, tbh it takes a great understanding of the deck and game to do that
Instead i got aggressive and charged up noelles ult early before their yoimiya so that when she switched to ayaka it was already sweeping time :)
Yes I was so confused with your play, ayaka was doing 1 damage to your ganyu, no danger to charge your burst, but then you switched to noelle to shield again for some reason xD still cool to see how you recovered.
And you could add whatever music to the x4 speed up, also adding black border to the white letters helps to read it easier but you decide
Really nice educational video! Not just a showcase for the deck but being able to see your full thinking process was really cool.
Not the opponent quitting :0
i was wondering have you ever tried mona/xingqiu/rhodeia in place of ganyu? or maybe the lawachurl in place of ningguang? just wanna know your opinion on those
This is something I'd want to cover in my guide as well, but I'm already here so might as well.
Base: What Ganyu brings to the table is basic elemental application, and Ganyu burst is 2 energy and effectively does 3 damage to all enemies.
1) Mona elemental skill provides better element application than Ganyu because if opponent changes character they'll also get hydro later. Mona also is a free "Leave it to me". Both are great aspects, trade for more utility from Mona instead of damage from Ganyu.
2) Xingqiu elemental skill basically same as Ganyu, but Xingqiu hydro himself all the time and I kinda just don't personally like it (smarter people than me can make it cancel reactions, I'd just make it help the opponent do more damage). He works fine though, trade for more single target damage from Xingqiu instead of AoE damage from Ganyu.
3) Rhodeia is weird, her elemental skill is effectively better than Ganyu and the other two above, but the value is delayed. The damage is really good for single target too, since ending a round with all three summons can equal 5 hydro damage on one enemy. Trade for more of a duel carry using Rhodeia instead of a supportive role from Ganyu.
4) Lawachurl is basically a more damage focused Geo alternative. Effectively 11 HP to start, and +1 dmg per round effectively enables a massive 4 damage with elemental skill, that easily gives Noelle Wolf's Gravestone execution. With a 2 energy cost burst, also extremely good with Adeptus’ Temptation doing a whole 8-9 damage. I think Lawachurl is legitimately a better choice with more flexibility and durability than Ningguang, but I just personally like Ningguang for a defensive elemental skill.
TL;DR All three Ganyu replacement suggestions are fine, just know what you want to use them for. Lawachurl probably actually better over Ningguang, but personally I like Ningguang, that's really it.
@@lilahliliumlily9883 i just tried noelle ganyu lawachurl against ayaka yoimiya xingqiu (unfortunately for me the person knew how to handle their deck). lawachurl carried the last 2 rounds lol, tanking xingqiu swords + yoi explosion and landing the final hit
maybe i’ll try a deck with ning in the future. thanks for the input👍
Lawachurl is so OP on turn 1. If you got Geo +1 dice, bit of luck on rolling dice and 2 cost Paimon helps too. He can OTK any unit off guard.
Turn 1 - Elemental skill (4 damage), turn 2 - same (3 damage), turn 3 use +1 Geo dice and burn action cards for Geo dice (they will be caught off guard with this) and E skill again (3 damage) or burst if enemies are somewhat shielded or healed.
That's 4+3+3 in 1 turn lmao. I killed many Yoimiya setters with this and they will instantly rage quit. 😂
i love the way u explain every single step..i hope u will make next video like this❤..done follow
You ate a lot of food. This gameplay expanded my horison to the new level. Well played.
I will only play on NPC only aside from 1 pvp as most of pvp is toxic.
@Toru Sato I think you misunderstood me, I am not pertaining to pvp on genshin, I am focusing PVP in general. All games that focus on pvp are toxic.
The genshin community really needs to stop using the OTK term.
OTK=One Turn Kill, which is when you kill your opponent from 100% hp to zero in one turn, or one round in genshin terms.
This is not a OTK deck by any means, it's more of a grinder deck which means they stall out the game, slowly doing chip damage.
Half of the enemy units were dead before round 5...
Bro, when monstadters said Noelle is reliable. They meant RELIABLE, reliable
nice first roll lol. although his big mistake is that seeing that you will get 1st turn next round with pretty decent setup, he should have played quicker Diona shield -> either switch and attack if he can, or end round there, instead of trying to set those supports.
and well, they all have same issue of not being flexible enough. like 5:47 switch to Diona is good, but then he switched back to muh Ayamiya setup. Big mistake. It's a Noelle 2 geo team. Ofc the win con is on Noelle, either turtling or just use ult. would have been clear if they had just read her skill description.
Any double geo with Noelle and a non-geo heavy attacker character like Razor, especially with Mirror Maiden can counter Yoiyaka OTK pretty hard though. You can usually sneak up Adeptus food to kill or heavily damage one important character before they can do their thing.
Mirror Maiden especially when she use her card which can cause switching to cost 1 additional dice.
Razor and Noelle have their burst damage boost after initial burst, Razor burst if the opponent die before the wolf hit, the wolf will go for the next active character.
Lawachurl, Mirror Maiden, Noelle together all of them only cost 2 energy for one burst, allowing a quick heavy blow, with Adeptus food can be lethal very early dealing up to 8 damage.
I use a noelle xq mona
mona is just a sac unit, you have the switch bonus and the skill to guard off some damage when switching to xq for ult set up. I set up artifacts weapons and fluff during mona's life. Is more dpendant on Noelle popping off and 1 or 2 turn ko game but also simpler to play, you do sacrifice the geo resonance but the game should only last 5 rounds max
great explanation. plz provide more examples, willing to learn more from practical battles
Good video, this deck actually loses to Yoi/Ayaka/Chongyun the hardest
I beat basically everything else, use slightly different cards but I might tweak it for even more dice.
I figured I can delay or just eat their bursts with ning or noelle and usually ganyu comes out and dies or gets very low first.
Super strong comp, but it can struggle against some. Yoimiya is so annoying to fight but I usually beat it with this
Yoimiya is a beast. But I'll rather have XQ than ayaka. Xq basically forces your opponent to switch characters to not get frozen which gives you a free turn and waste a dice. Also dmg reduction. xq burst deals Dmg with every NA which synergise with yoi much better.
@@greyviscount.78 bennett decks are the worst too. Just hate being 1 shot on turn 2 lol.
Never knew there would be this much strategy going on with this deck!
Also would this deck still be good if I switch ganyu with fishl?
or xq for extra shield from crytilize and additional dmg
that yoi ayaka deck already misplay at the start lol.
The new mirror maiden card may be the best sub in now for the 3rd slot I haven't tested it though
The opponent can't okt you if you kill them first, literally 😌
Im using this deck too, but im using oceanid instead of ganyu since her summon can easily apply hydro and trigger crystallize. Noelle otk is a good deck tho
And i thought this is new Yugioh combo due it Title
I well daym wrong
Can you share your deck please 😊
yeah.... waifu over meta
nice video... i will wait for more
So real quick, just wanna put this out there: The opponent wasn’t actually playing the Ayaka/Yoimiya deck very well. In fact, it’s not even the scary version (the supports are wrong, and diona is bad).
Still, good show.
Diona is actually very strong in late game.
But the opponent was horrible. I dont think i ever lose to Noelle OTK using YoiAyaka deck lol.
I eat Noelle decks for breakfast. This ayomiya deck was bad.
Very cool and intresting deck
Tried it myself, and have to say it's a very fun and also very strong deck
Starting almost every fight with sacrificial goat allows to fit a frostflake arrow shot and/or ult which leaves every enemy around ~6-8 hp before she dies, so the cleanup with Noelle afterwards is usually pretty easy
I wonder if they'll nerf minty rolls eventually, because omnidice generation + minty rolls feels too op
Geo resonance also pretty strong disabling most high damage combos
I'm confuseddd, Why does Noelle's basic attack hits so hard 😩, My Ganyu superconduct deck is scared now.
I use Kaeya with Noelle and Ningguang sometimes. His cryo application from his burst is actually pretty good for getting crystallize shields
got bennet instead of ganyu im tema.
i build his ult up first let him die and one shot with noelle or ningguang ult if i get the ult rdy
What's the use of ninguang? And that geo lawachurl?
anyone got any idea how to win against this deck?
Youre enemy forget to bring xinqiu on team ayamiya
u dont need him. u just need yoi burst and then attack with ayaka, but this person completely failed it
I feel like Barbara is gonna be better just for those Universal Healing from her E.
3:05 this what i never expected.
he have transfer card -_-
To counter noelle deck, i'm just using freeze team 😅
Is there a reason you aren’t running katheryne? I feel like it’s pretty strong to keep pace
you don't need it with this comp. I ran this comp as a test, normally use kathryn but didn't use it here
I basically won because they just can't damage you the way you can damage them
and I delay with ninguang if I don't pull good early ganyu setup
seems pretty decent, won 7/10 in first tests
I usually don't use Katheryne, only time I expect to want priority in my movement is when Noelle needs to keep a character in check, which two "Leave it to me" does, otherwise I rather not steal priority and risk ending turn first. That's basically my reasoning, and that there are also many times it's better to just waste a combat turn switching to a character to force opponent to do something, which Katheryne can't be turned off to let me do that if the situation calls for it.
@@lilahliliumlily9883 this, and with heavy card drawing and dice generation, you are gonna have extra hits everywhere with this comp. Chef Mao is broken weaved into this build
I thought so when I first start playing but as it turns out Kathy is actually not as good as it seems. In this game, going first and going second can both be advantageous depending on the situation. In an OTK deck, going second is better therefore you don't want the quick action. You want your opponent to finish their turn early which opens up opportunity for you to excute an OTK.
Following my point, Kathy is also bad because your enemy knows that EVERY of your switch is fast action. That predictability makes it less good in PVP, compared to event card Leave it to Me.
Would Lawachurl work instead of Ningguang?
Yup, Ningguang just a more defensive second geo option, Lawachurl is a more offensive one, so make your values worth and hit them hard with that +1 dmg buff.
Xingqiu would be a better choice as you get to reapply hydro after every hit. This will let you gain an insane amount of shields. Calx's will help you build Xingqiu without the hydro self application.
Throughout 3 days ago til now, i have used noelle team with xingqiu while faced someone with a ganyu instead twice. Won both games with a record 11-2. Edit: i was losing a bit more than half my games before against ganyu, ayaka or yoimiya teams.
Anemo can change you main character.
Анемо колода и является контролем, это и есть её задача)
Вот и контрпик этой колоды...
@@vlade129 ага
i dont have Ning can i use Lawachurl instead?
Lawachurl is perfectly good too, a more offensive second geo option over Ningguang basically since Lawachurl hits way harder. Only provides damage but it's very good damage.
why didn't you use Wagner?
U nee some explaination About OTK mean One Take Ko !
Bruh the yoiyaka play horrible XD
Yoimiya burst was supposed to be active since round 2 so the fun start there and the enemy team die in round 3-4
But wtf was the yoiyaka even doing XD
i think AyaMiya more easier to say
What is OTK?
one turn kill
Never punish
What does OTK mean i keep seeing thst term
One Turn Kill
OTK or one turn kill is basically a setup when you place many buff or combo in turn before and you gonna all out in the next turn and clean all the enemies in one turn sweep
Ohhh ni e thanks also thanks for the vid. I love noell the tcg has given me inspiration to make her reallyngood not just in tcg hut also in genshin proper
@@Kindi001 The genshin community really needs to stop using this term. OTK=One Turn Kill, is when you kill your opponent from 100%hp to zero, in one turn, or one round in genshin terms.
This is not a OTK deck by any means, it's more of a grinder deck which means they stall out the game, slowly doing chip damage.
I don't think you knoe ehat OTK means LMFAO
Noelle-chan ❤❤❤❤😍
What does OTK mean? Can someone tell me
One-Turn Kill
what is otk?
One Turn Kill. So for example, right now in Genshin TCG, Ayaka and Yoimiya deck has a strategy that involves them setting up cards on and using Yoimiya's burst and Ayaka's Cryo infusion to wipe out all three opposing characters in one turn. The set up is usually on turns 1 and 2, and usually the OTK comes on turn 3.
Lmao mainers Hu Tao and Qiqi
why is your cursor like that
using the stonehide lawachurl is also good
Um if u want to demonstrate something, at least bring a good example :d You groaned all over this video. Can't u record another match?
Edit: I watched till the end. It was not even an OTK match. Clickbait warning
The OTK is the name of the decks. They were using a Noelle OTK deck vs a Yoiyaka OTK deck.