David, this is really really good. Thank you for doing this. The next area I have been planning on working on in preparedness is communication. I can tell you put a ton of work into this. Great work!
KUDOS David ...Great Presentation...Im the new Elders Quorum President for Our Branch here in Northeast AZ And we just did a Brainstorming mtg to DO JUST THAT which you've done...I will now share this with my EQ leadership and Our Bishopric and see where we can take it from here...we have a Huge area that Our Branch covers and a fairly large Stake as well. Hoping that this PRESENTATION can make a Difference in What we need to do..Thank You Brother
Just came across this video, excellent indeed. I do know that the Good Sheppard has prepared ways to look after His own.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Having lived through a major earthquake in Mexico city, in 1885, 8.5 on the Richter scale, the largest aftershock the next evening of 7.9 or 7.6 I no longer recall. No water at all for 30 days. Plenty of destruction throughout the city. Now living in beautiful Canada, some amazing winter storms, including freezing rain and no power. Particularly one Christmas eve, a storm, and the power went and was gone for 4 days straight. Somè old trees where down, or large parts of said trees, and power lines too, due to the weight of freezing rain that became too heavy. Some ares never lost power, many others did. When the lights returned with a power surge, the furnace went bust. Happened to many, parts and replacements were hard to find. No heat in the house for 30 days, in January. A few individual small electric heaters kept the house just above the freezing mark, no more. We where dressed for the outside weather inside the house, including going to sleep. I remember some very cold days, like minus 27°C outside.... Were we ever so happy when that new furnice finally arrived... Trough it all the Good Lord looked after us, and we were alright.
This is absolutely fantastic! Not only did we get to hear what a real conversation over ham radio sounds like but what a fantastic plan to implement in communities! I don’t believe our stake has anything like this and I am hoping to try to share this information with our leaders so we can get to work quickly!
I'm a Stake ERC coordinator, right now I'm pushing the Baofengs for every family because of their: affordability, reliability, versatility (I've used baofengs to hit the international space station and communicate from southwestern Idaho to British Columbia - fun factoid for anyone curious about them). They can listen to EMS, NOAA. Even if they aren't licensed, they can listen. With the baofengs you can get info both down and up the chain. In an emergency, anyone can communicate without a license on amateur bands. Having one radio system (e.g. ham) increases redundancy so that we have spare parts, extra radios, similar systems ("two is one, one is none"). I'm pushing licensing as a part of emergency prep so we have more people capable of more and if they are outside a controlled setting they have options along with equipment. Well see how it goes. Our geography is a lot more spread with our largest wards running 15-40 miles through canyons. Any feedback on this would be very welcome. Thank you so much for your work. I was looking at this on the Idaho ERC website. Good to hear the audio portion of the training. 73!
Excellent information and presentation. It's time for me to get back in gear and get this done in my ward. I'm the emergency preparedness specialist so I know who to talk to. My Bishop is on board and just passed the ham test and got his call sign yesterday. We actually have as many ward members holding a GMRS license as holding a ham license and many of them participate on a net. Now to encourage more in the ward to get out their frs radios and prepare. I got a new CB so those with a CB in their basement could join in. Now to put it all together like you have.... Our Stake has a communications net every Monday evening, but it is like pulling teeth to get operators to consistently check in. rf
Nice work putting this all together! Looks like you've invested quite a lot of personal time, and we are the beneficiaries. Your organization appears very thorough. A few questions. Who pays for those FRS radios that you're supplying to households that don't already have them? By policy, the LDS Church won't pay for them. Also, how do you deal with transiency? People are always moving into and out of the ward, even the leaders and those assigned with radio responsibilities. And the people who have communication responsibilities get released quite often, so how do you deal with that? Typically, keeping up with ward transiency and callings and releasings require quite a lot of time and energy, and gets old quickly. Finally, what happens to those radios that accidentally get taken with them when the owner family moves? Does somebody hunt them down? More time and energy. Thoughts?
Thank you for viewing and commenting. Families own or purchase their own radios. Even as a scoutmaster I never had the church pay for any scout equipment. I believe people should have and will need their own equipment and take better care of it. For people just passing through the area and not staying, there is a bishop assigned for transients. If we have transients we refer them to that bishop. As far as church members moving in and out, as with all other callings, we call and train new people as needed. It isn't a big deal. I provide the training, which I enjoy doing.
I bought a baofang, (frs). Actually bought two and gave one to a friend. I have to admit, I have very little knowledge of it. My friend is not interested at all it seems. She is a busy person. I have let it go but I do feel I need some kind of communication options. In my area, I haven't heard of anything like what you are presenting here.
Good for you for getting radios. Sounds like it is time to get your radio back and find someone who is interested. Please share this video with those in positions to implement such a plan.
@authentic expressions Thanks again. I did some searches this afternoon. We have several groups, the the closest is a county away. I'll be contacting them tomorrow. Blessings🙏
Thank you. Actually, since it isn't legal to use the Baofang "HAM" radio to transmit FRS/GMRS a license wouldn't help. Unless it is an emergency you can only transmit on "HAM" UHF/VHF frequencies. In order to transmit on GMRS frequencies you need a GMRS radio, legally speaking. That is not to say that people don't program GMRS frequencies in the Baofeng and transmit.
@@jum5238 A "HAM" radio is only legally allowed to transmit on "HAM" frequencies. GMRS frequencies are out of the range of HAM frequencies. HAM frequency range is 420 - 450MHz. GMRS frequency range is 462 MHz and 467 MHz.
Excellent. Thank you so much. How is this continuing to work forr ward? I have a ton of questions, I'm a Stake ERC rep. How long did this take to get to this point for implementation for you?
Great question Vickie. A handheld CB's range is very short. It is old technology. Generally more expensive than FRS/GMRS. Not very common use. It does okay with clear line of sight but with any obstruction it does very poorly.
Yes, give me a call. My phone # is on my website LDSPrepperStore.com. My best guess is that you'll need a repeater. You can use a GMRS repeater that way people only have to spend $35 for a license and there is no test to take.
David, this is really really good. Thank you for doing this. The next area I have been planning on working on in preparedness is communication. I can tell you put a ton of work into this. Great work!
Thank you. Yes, a lot of work and time from many people who helped. Please share.
Impressive.
As a train driver I know the importance of clear and concise messages and regular practice
I can imagine. Clear communication keeps everyone safe.
Kinda funny I was watching your channel a decade ago, and just came across it again, was Baptized in 2020. 👍
Congratulations! And welcome back!
KUDOS David ...Great Presentation...Im the new Elders Quorum President for Our Branch here in Northeast AZ And we just did a Brainstorming mtg to DO JUST THAT which you've done...I will now share this with my EQ leadership and Our Bishopric and see where we can take it from here...we have a Huge area that Our Branch covers and a fairly large Stake as well. Hoping that this PRESENTATION can make a Difference in What we need to do..Thank You Brother
Just came across this video, excellent indeed. I do know that the Good Sheppard has prepared ways to look after His own.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Having lived through a major earthquake in Mexico city, in 1885,
8.5 on the Richter scale, the largest aftershock the next evening of 7.9 or 7.6 I no longer recall. No water at all for 30 days. Plenty of destruction throughout the city.
Now living in beautiful Canada, some amazing winter storms, including freezing rain and no power. Particularly one Christmas eve, a storm, and the power went and was gone for 4 days straight. Somè old trees where down, or large parts of said trees, and power lines too, due to the weight of freezing rain that became too heavy. Some ares never lost power, many others did.
When the lights returned with a power surge, the furnace went bust. Happened to many, parts and replacements were hard to find. No heat in the house for 30 days, in January. A few individual small electric heaters kept the house just above the freezing mark, no more. We where dressed for the outside weather inside the house, including going to sleep.
I remember some very cold days, like minus 27°C outside....
Were we ever so happy when that new furnice finally arrived...
Trough it all the Good Lord looked after us, and we were alright.
This is absolutely fantastic! Not only did we get to hear what a real conversation over ham radio sounds like but what a fantastic plan to implement in communities!
I don’t believe our stake has anything like this and I am hoping to try to share this information with our leaders so we can get to work quickly!
I'm glad you found it helpful Shannon. Yes, please share it. That is why I made it so detailed so people can take it and apply it to their situation.
I'm a Stake ERC coordinator, right now I'm pushing the Baofengs for every family because of their: affordability, reliability, versatility (I've used baofengs to hit the international space station and communicate from southwestern Idaho to British Columbia - fun factoid for anyone curious about them). They can listen to EMS, NOAA. Even if they aren't licensed, they can listen. With the baofengs you can get info both down and up the chain. In an emergency, anyone can communicate without a license on amateur bands. Having one radio system (e.g. ham) increases redundancy so that we have spare parts, extra radios, similar systems ("two is one, one is none"). I'm pushing licensing as a part of emergency prep so we have more people capable of more and if they are outside a controlled setting they have options along with equipment. Well see how it goes. Our geography is a lot more spread with our largest wards running 15-40 miles through canyons. Any feedback on this would be very welcome. Thank you so much for your work. I was looking at this on the Idaho ERC website. Good to hear the audio portion of the training. 73!
Our Ward is about 15 miles north-south and about 50/60 miles east-west.
I'm a ham but we have very few in the Stake. (the Stake is huge!) VK4ETC
As you have probably experienced HAM is the best solution for you. Feel free to use the plan here and adapt it to your area.
@@LDSPrepper - Thanks! I did download it but there has been no push about comms here so far.
@@christopherdcorran No worries. There always after an emergency, when it is too late. :)
Great video David. I have GMRS and two that have scanners built in $245 each. Max power is 5 to 5.5 watts and can connect to GMRS repeaters.
GMRS radio is spreading here in Ohio. We need to establish more nets though.
Excellent! I hope you get lots of fun use out of them.
@@ssh0111 I'm glad to hear that.
Excellent information and presentation. It's time for me to get back in gear and get this done in my ward. I'm the emergency preparedness specialist so I know who to talk to. My Bishop is on board and just passed the ham test and got his call sign yesterday. We actually have as many ward members holding a GMRS license as holding a ham license and many of them participate on a net. Now to encourage more in the ward to get out their frs radios and prepare. I got a new CB so those with a CB in their basement could join in. Now to put it all together like you have....
Our Stake has a communications net every Monday evening, but it is like pulling teeth to get operators to consistently check in. rf
Sounds like you are well on your way.
That took a lot of effort. Very well done! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, thank you. It took about three months and a couple hundred hours and the help of many people. I hope you found it useful.
Very well presented, David.
Thank you Kari. I hope it helps your community.
Due to the geographical size of our wards and branches, we use FRS, GMRS, and Amateur radio. GMRS give a great deal of capability without a test.
Yes, GMRS has a lot of advantages. I'm glad to see you have an emergency comms plan in play. Good work!
Great job with this information. I will download and digest.
Thank you. Enjoy and share.
Verry good presentation; verry much needed; great slides ... thank you for all your work ❣
You are very welcome Bette. Please share with those who are in positions to implement such a plan.
Good information. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Excellent presentation. Sad that people won't listen no matter how LOUD the end sounds.
Thank you for viewing and listening. That is one more person who is better prepared.
Nice work putting this all together! Looks like you've invested quite a lot of personal time, and we are the beneficiaries. Your organization appears very thorough.
A few questions. Who pays for those FRS radios that you're supplying to households that don't already have them? By policy, the LDS Church won't pay for them. Also, how do you deal with transiency? People are always moving into and out of the ward, even the leaders and those assigned with radio responsibilities. And the people who have communication responsibilities get released quite often, so how do you deal with that? Typically, keeping up with ward transiency and callings and releasings require quite a lot of time and energy, and gets old quickly. Finally, what happens to those radios that accidentally get taken with them when the owner family moves? Does somebody hunt them down? More time and energy. Thoughts?
Thank you for viewing and commenting. Families own or purchase their own radios. Even as a scoutmaster I never had the church pay for any scout equipment. I believe people should have and will need their own equipment and take better care of it.
For people just passing through the area and not staying, there is a bishop assigned for transients. If we have transients we refer them to that bishop. As far as church members moving in and out, as with all other callings, we call and train new people as needed. It isn't a big deal. I provide the training, which I enjoy doing.
Among other things, David Gilmore is also an excellent guitarist for Pink Floyd. 🙂
I bought a baofang, (frs). Actually bought two and gave one to a friend. I have to admit, I have very little knowledge of it. My friend is not interested at all it seems. She is a busy person. I have let it go but I do feel I need some kind of communication options. In my area, I haven't heard of anything like what you are presenting here.
Good for you for getting radios. Sounds like it is time to get your radio back and find someone who is interested. Please share this video with those in positions to implement such a plan.
@@LDSPrepper Yes and yes, need to check further in my area.
@authentic expressions thank you!! I did not know I could connect with ham radio networks.
@authentic expressions Thanks again. I did some searches this afternoon. We have several groups, the the closest is a county away. I'll be contacting them tomorrow. Blessings🙏
First off, WELL DONE! Question: Baofung radio - if programmed for FRS or GMRS frequencies, do you need a license to Tx?
Thank you. Actually, since it isn't legal to use the Baofang "HAM" radio to transmit FRS/GMRS a license wouldn't help. Unless it is an emergency you can only transmit on "HAM" UHF/VHF frequencies. In order to transmit on GMRS frequencies you need a GMRS radio, legally speaking. That is not to say that people don't program GMRS frequencies in the Baofeng and transmit.
@@LDSPrepper So if I'm reading between the lines correctly, it's not legal Tx on that radio for FRS/GMRS because of power?
@@jum5238 A "HAM" radio is only legally allowed to transmit on "HAM" frequencies. GMRS frequencies are out of the range of HAM frequencies. HAM frequency range is 420 - 450MHz. GMRS frequency range is 462 MHz and 467 MHz.
Excellent. Thank you so much.
How is this continuing to work forr ward? I have a ton of questions, I'm a Stake ERC rep. How long did this take to get to this point for implementation for you?
Is there a reason you didn't consider or test CB radios?
Great question Vickie. A handheld CB's range is very short. It is old technology. Generally more expensive than FRS/GMRS. Not very common use. It does okay with clear line of sight but with any obstruction it does very poorly.
Very impressive!!!
Thank you Jan. Please share with those who can implement such a plan in your area.
@@LDSPrepper I’ll forward this to our Bishop
what the link of document I can downloaded sir?
LDSPrepper.com/emergencycomms
ward is about 40 square miles... may need to contact you later lol
Yes, give me a call. My phone # is on my website LDSPrepperStore.com. My best guess is that you'll need a repeater. You can use a GMRS repeater that way people only have to spend $35 for a license and there is no test to take.