Question: How Do I Know If Computer Programming Is For Me?
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2015
- How do i know that computer programming is for me? Growing up i would always hate dealing with computers, and would observe my brother putting computers together. I know programming may not necessarily be putting computers together, but if i grew up hating computers. How would i determine if computer programming for me?
-Abir M.
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"Hating" computers is like "hating" math, or physics, or whatever... People don't like what they don't understand, or what they think that they can't understand. It's overwhelming, and people get stuck. But, these are logical fields that are not hard to follow if you study them systematically. It's about character to a certain extent. The guy said that he hated computers as a kid. Probably because he couldn't understand it, and also, possibly because of the older brother making him feel inferior. If as an adult he can follow the logic and is excited by the field, of course it's for him. People's minds evolve.
very insightful and empowering elena, I'm hiring a motivational speakers for my company. Can you travel to hawaii and give a speech for me?
This is actually the right answer and why I eventually thought I wasn't made for programming. When things start clicking with PRACTICE it starts to be empowering and awesome
I got an A+ in math in 8th grade and it went down to a C.. guess how I feel about math..?
I agree with you Elena, we hate things that don't come easy for us to understand or excel or pick up quickly
"Is that guy talking to himself... ?"
"Just keep jogging."
its a green screen
No he is talking to you stupid
@@on999 everyone is stupid, you are smart
Who thought that lady at 0:44 was Ashton Kutcher
sorry, me.
Ashton has upped his "punk game"
Hahaha...I totally did.
When i learn online and from books and alone in general i enjoy programming a lot, but when i am in classes in the university it feels so boring and stupid...
+adka datka I am the complete opposite. I barely can program in any language (C++, Python, Java) beyond simple for loops and print statements as in Basic, and it feels so pointless & useless when I do it on my own. But I actually got to use C++/Java classes in school & I earned As. I was motivated by the grade to work hard.
Programming computers just distracts me from my true love: proving math theorems. This is what the world needs & I & thousands of mathematicians across the world can prove theorems for people.
+adka datka I am same as you. I like to learn on my own, from books and online courses I buy.
I was bored at academy, inclasses...
so?
+adka datka Yeah I hear ya, it's not the subject it is just school...the teacher should make it fun
+adka datka Same here, all my life i loved geo-politics, international trade, economics, i'm in my third and final year of studying economics , with an emphasis on accounting and computer science besides studying marketing, politics, international commerce etc. And i have to say all my passion for economics is gone except entrepreneurship , that i still would like to learn more about. But I'll actually apply for a Masters degree in software engineering or computer science . Thou' , not sure, i hate classes, grades, working for grades, making projects with idiots with no interests in the subject...maybe i'll just a apply to some sort of tehnical private academy to learn a certain specialization like , Java or Android/iOS and be done with it..... i freaking hate college, it's such a stupid system.
Yo Eli I hate driving. Should I become a taxi/bus driver?
You probably dont hate it, you just are scared of it so once you win a formula one, accidentally, will you still say the same ?
yes, girls love that, uber are in, youll get the girls
I think the question was more like:
I hate driving, should i become a mechanical engineer or mechanic? This would make more sense
guess not alot of people get the "Yo Eli" reference.
I spent 90% of this video trying to figure out if this was a green screen
d0m looks pretty real nature too me
d0m The audio always gives it away. If it sounds like what you are seeing, chances are high it’s real
@@MichaelM-xt5kb I recon
The lighting is also a dead giveaway
@@earlem9771 he could record the background with sound and then himself on the greenscreen with the same cam and the same mic.
So when he put it together, the result will be so much realistic
here's the thing about teaching programming to kids. it gives them something tangible to understand while building deductive reasoning skills. have you talked to the average American child. It's like logic is extinct.
Tito Burney good point
That's like planting seeds in a desert in the hope to create rich vegetation.
Most people can't understand
Nah. Just read Epictetus to them.
I went for a run and this guy is just sitting there in a bright orange t-shirt talking to a camera on his MacBook. Damn, I should stop running.
I also like how the camera autofocused onto the stream in the lower left rather than you!
all that 4K went on displaying the background
being a fan of your channel and finding you here in the comments makes me happy :D all good youtubers know each other!
InstaBlaster...
I am IT and 100% of my time is on computers especially managing oracle databases sql scripting, configuring Cisco routers and much more
Depends on the company, but yes. You do what needs to be done at that moment. I’m happy I was a developer in the 80’s/90’s before the object paradigm. It brings a lot of benefits and complexities.
i was someone who always "hated" computers, but once by accident i got to code an application and it was so much fun! i discovered a passion for coding and programming coming from someone who was not a huge fan of Tech stuffs, my advice for Abeer is to try it out and see for her self!
+Wafae Dose what you learnt help you make money through job or other means or do something useful for you?
***** I hope you are successful I know first hand that it is very tough getting the grades you want internsips as well as managing everything else.
Projects are very useful if you don't manage to get summer intern ships you can still build your portfolio.
There are also certain volunteer projects and if you drive can be community groups you could get involved in over the summer that help you meet professionals who work in the technology sector I'm part of one called hack space where I talk with a medium sized business owner most weeks met someone with a robotics start up who I talked to about what they had built and previous engineering work before the start up. There are also open sorce projects. I'm considering getting involved in one with one I found to tailor conditions to individual plants to incress crop production for hydroponics.
I studied maths/physics there where a lot of concepts applicable to programming like compressing information in quantum information theory. But my degree didn't really involve learning to actually write code.
Iv been working on projects such as small games iv published and can republish as apps and learning how to program more with free resources and self studying areas of computer science after graduation along with other things. Iv just started a free coarse on writing algorithms and Iv had a free machine learning coarse suggested to me by someone I know whose a few years ahead of me who is now working in that area and I presume doing very well. Though they did 2 masters and I assume interships as well as coming from the top university in the country for there subject.
Yeah making a program that asks your name and say hello to your name is easy anybody would like that but when you go deeeeeeep into it and you dont like computer stuffs who knows?
***** Agreed but it has to be a real try. If he codes some simple stuffs in javascript or python and decides his major is going to be CS maybe he will end up not liking it. If you love problem solving and math logic programming is great. So many people (I seen myself) goes like I dont really like maths or physics (science in general) I will just go for computer science its all about clicking and typing. They end up wasting a year or two realizing it is not for them. Most of the time the people that likes maths and problem solving ends up liking it. Programming is great for me by the way will have about 4(3 more to come) years of "self taught" skills until I go to a college.
***** Could not agree more. HTML is just so boring. No algorithm no challenging. My favorite thing in programming might be coming up with algorithms that solves the problem.
i can work with computer like 12 hours a day. I just passed python basic. I kind of want to build a software or android app. However, i am scared that i will live in a world with computer ,instead of a real human being. I love computer ,but it is just like u need to say good by to human being.
Computers and humand will become one very soon, so you don't have to say good by to humans. its evolution.
+ssibio
Pfft.
Jonathan SumAKAGoogleSearch-arma2oa you don't understand life at all
***** yes,i am.
It's scary growing up and realizing that we know little about the systems we live and are 'supported' by here in the United States. I couldn't agree more.
Your blunt honesty is a breath of fresh air.
Thank you. I hate how over hyped the tech market is currently. Everyone and their mother is either hyping up becoming a Computer Programmer or an Entrepreneur. I used to love both of these but now i just really like them. The jobs aren't meant for everyone, just like how not everyone can become a Doctor.
That is completely true, people think it's something you can do overnight, but the truth is it take's years of learning and credentials that a lot of people are not willing to build. I once read a blog post that said if you should not even think about trying to become a programmer until you can type 60wpm, and I agree fully. People should do what they love, what they know in their heart they are good at. Not try to follow some fad or hype. I used CodeCademy for the first time in 2013, did not see coding as a way to make money until 2016. I love the craft, the money it brings is just a plus.
It is more like most of the time you are using control + c and control + v and adjusting the code to work with your project.
Thanks for the honest and calm talk. We should all try different stuff for a while, before we decide to jump into it as a career or pursue a bachelors for 3-4 years
Woooooo and that is why we love the ELI!!!!! He just dropped some knowledge on you folks... Totally support this VID & what he said!
Great info, I am 38 and have a chance to go back to school. I love computers but never did anything like coding. Now I am really thinking about Computer Science. Not sure tho, I am wondering about other Computer related Degrees. These videos are very helpful.
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Yeah I'm interested to know!
Un lugar extraordinario, esos bosques, para vivir y trabajar. Amigo Eli, es Ud. todo un privilegiado...
What an incredible environment!!
You're so lucky to be there, sir.
Congrats!
When I write my own tools for my own benefit I love programming, it is like building stuff with lego as a kid. But in my job I just program for others so I hate it. So I get depressed. I guess I either have to do my own little company or hate myself. Talk about pressure.. I wish all work would gain you money, not just work that benefits the economy. Does someone else feel the same and how do you deal with it?
i feel the same way as you
Im a programmer 90 percent of my day is programming. Usually from 8 to 16 hours a day including weekends.
It seems easier and cheaper to just start and practice than say medicine, law or most other professions.
To learn medicine or pharmaceuticals you need to pay for classes and take tests and be hired.
With programming you invest your time but not money.
There's also a fear that automation will replace jobs and we don't know exactly witch or how many.
Also these a Integration of programming or at least software into other professions.
It is very hard to know what to do there are many professions and sub professions most of us don't even know about.
This is exactly what attracted me to programming. If you can maintain access to a computer and the internet, then you can learn to program. You can teach yourself at minimal cost, unlike medical professions.
You have a good perspective. Subscribed!
2nd part of the video was insightful about the education system pretty much in Europe and US.
yo thank you bro you helped me to nail my interview
Thanks for the video!
Thanks For the Website.
Thanks for the advice, I was wondering if there was a way I could actually test drive coding before going for it lol
What a beautiful background...
Maybe this is a silly question but why is it that every time I look into coding or programming, I get led to web design or coding? Even with this video's reference to code academy: first thing that pops up is HTML & CSS. Am I just blurring the lines somewhere or is there some push to get everyone into web? Or is it important to learn HTML if you want to learn programming in general? I am more interested in windows programs and/or video game related stuff and am not sure which path to take since I keep getting led to the web side...
It is the tech field and healthcare field is being pushed onto people through various advertisements because they are rapidly growing. That does not mean everyone should do it, we were not all meant to code a computer. There are other important jobs out there, coding it just a faster way to get a pay check.
Good conversation!
About the "everyone needs to know how to program" thing, I think only a few basics that programming requires are useful for the general public like logical thinking, abstraction, creative problem solving, etc. These things can just be applied to other parts of the curriculum like math. But I am all in favour for "working with computers" classes that teach most things like safely browsing the web, doing backups, working with productive software or even just how to enjoy entertainment.
I always say, start doing it, and if you're good at it then it's for you.
Couldn't agree with you more Eli. It really pisses me off that everyone on the planet seems to think they need to learn to code. Yes, software development is a growing industry, but does that mean you should abandon your real interests and passions in life, and start coding? That's a recipe for an unhappy life, because unless you LOVE programming, you will never survive sitting at your desk, staring a text editor, for 8-10 hours a day.
As a young programmer myself(15 years old) I couldn't agree more with you. Unlike most people, I think sitting in front of a computer for hours a day is the best job there is(and no I'm not lazy), but most people just don't want to do that which is completely fine. Also, while yes we do need a lot more programmers in the world but saying that everyone should know how to code is just plain ridiculous.
I have keratoconus(a chronic eye problem where my vision is not that sharp). However working on a laptop is not the hardest thing (going to college and staring at the white board for 5 hours is).
So would it be possible for me to actually work as a full time programmer or are there any other easier jobs(on my eyes) that I could divert myself to being a 5th semester computer engineering student.
Thanks
How to find out if you would enjoy programing or IT?
what happens if you love to code but you are a slow typer? what should you do?
I can spend a whole day editing a video, but can't program, i don't know if it's because i just started and it's hard or what. I've still decided to go to uni for Software Engineering next year.
Something to add to your list Eli is a ton of people don't know how to cook on a budget, how to change the oil/lights/wheels in their car, and a lot of people have no idea how fix their house.
+Tech Reviews and Help How can one not know how to cook on a budge? Just go to the Dollar Tree. Stock up on lots of cheap food. As long as one has a can opener & a pair of scissors to open packages, one can eat for as little as $7 a day.
you can go a bit cheaper by just making a load of food for a week or 2. a lot of people just end up eating only fast food.
+Tech Reviews and Help I know theres fruit and veg supermarkets reject for its shape I dont know if there's a way you can get that cheap.
I am one of those 'kids' who don't know how to maintain my car or apartment. But I was never taught. Now at the age of 30, I'm at the mercy of mechanics and Valvoline. I also don't have the space to fuck around with my car. I think it's circumstantial and who raised ya tbh. I get what you're saying though
I need formalized structure to learn ANY language:
Python, java, C++, Russian, French, Chinese. Iworked very hard, learned a lot, and earned As in all of my CS courses. But I NEVER applied computer programming from them outside the courses. I could never focus on searching in vain for commands or pieces of code from libraries to do the one thing I needed my program to do.
I would grow bored and frustrated and problems ALWAYS grew exponentially complex and time-consuming.
But, a formal comp sci professor teaching me held my interest.
Wow you are so right about what is being taught in school
Dude this is amazing background! Where is it? I wanna sit with u and meditate))
I kinda enjoy programming, sometimes I like it, sometime I hate it. But one thing is for sure. I procasonate on everything, I mean, coding is still hard work.
2:27 That. Evil. Giggle. This just made my night 10 times better xD
Generic question but I'd like your input (couldn't find it on your channel)
What kind of laptop should a CS major get (freshman incoming) who also likes to play light games (league of legends)?
liked it a lot! thanks!
Hi teacher i just finished my secondary school and i love computer and i wanna learn it bit i really confused wht the difference bt " computer science, computer programing, computer networking.
plz help me teacher
THanks for Informated know 🙃
Thanks for the Codecademy tip, really like it!
Róbert Tóth I also recommend a book by John zilli Python programming: a introduction to computer programming. It's amazing...
Emmanuel Kofy Agyapong Hey, thanks for the intel, really appreciate it! Will get the book, you're a real mind reader, since I've just started learning and now I'm at the state where I annoy everyone around me with my questions. Ask for recommendations and stuff. So thanks again!
I think it's helpful if everyone learns some basic programming. Even though they say there's a shortage of software engineers in the US, not everyone wants to do this for a living. That's fine, not everyone will have the patience to sit in front of a computer and work with code. I'm not a biologist, chemist, writer, etc. but I had to learn about that.
However, one thing that would help our broken educational system is to trash the concept of grades and exams. We learn to focus on how many points we're accumulating throughout the school year that we forget what the real point behind school is in the first place. Sadly, the US government wants to control our lives as much as possible so they set us up from the start to fail and we fall for it because of laws requiring that we all go to school until we're 18. Then, college is basically required since "you can't get a great job without a degree". There's too much student debt in our country and since I currrently work at the first University I attended, I get to see so many students working towards a misguided goal that doesn't guarantee any success. It might help, but it's not guaranteed. The only guarantee is most of them willl be spending a good chunk of their lives paying off student loan debt once they graduate.
What course should you take first on CodeAcademy as a beginner? obviously don't want to start off with the hardest thing.
What should I do first?
How do you get rid of old computers ?
I am a network engineer student. I kind of hate it and I keep bouncing back because I want to be successful. Thank for giving me the advice on Code Academy, I think today I have made my mind about my current career. I actually do like concept of programming. I am not really that outgoing and I have never liked Networking. It sucks that it took me this long to realize that its not for me. If programming isn't for me, then I am really screwed. Because the thought of becoming a Networker sounds so bad to me.
Networking sounds like hell to me. I am excited and afraid for the moment I need to do some networking for my games.
Legal rights are taught at my school in Dallas ISD. We have a law class, criminal justice class, and forensic science.
I absolutely cannot stand wrenches, engines or vehicles but lately I've had thoughts of becoming a mechanic....how can I find out if I'll like being a mechanic.
Hey man, i'm learning C# for like 2 months (just started obviously) and i wonder what level of knowlegde i must have to get i job as a junior? What do i have to know?
lol "how do I know its the one for me!" like something Cinderella would say
very nice location :D - I am a computer programmer and I love it :P it is more then you show in this video
I think learning to program is not as much of a need as is learning how to reason and form logic to solve real world problems. This is the core skill needed when programming. I learned to program so that I can make programs that increase my workflow speed. Your knowledge is like a tool bag. The more tools you have the more stuff you can do. That is why I learned it. What about a program that can do your homework for you? That would be an incentive for a lot of people.
Weird thing is happening to me with this video. It gets stuck at 0:04 seconds and start to load endlessly (never loads). Clean the cache, tried to open it at INCOGNITO MODE and nothing always the same thing. Suggestions?
+CheDeLila same
+Atul M. Sorry but keeps getting stuck few seconds further in the video u.u
+CheDeLila I have the same issue
+CheDeLila Same thing is happening for me. How we deal with it will answer the question of whether computer programming is for me.
I'm planning on curling up into a ball, crying and pulling my hair out.
+CheDeLila Try opening the video with Internet Explorer or other browser.
Eli I hate working on cars should I be a mechanic?
Eli I hate airplanes should I be a pilot?
Eli I hate customer service, should I work in fast food?
the reason is the curiosity to know what exactly the logic that driving the stuffs.
Is this a green screen?
+Zack Fireman No it's a blue screen
dammit you got me wondering now
+Zack Fireman No, he sometime sets up his videos on hiking trails around him.
+Zack Fireman The lighting is right and the background shifting coincided with his body when he turned the camera off. This isn't proof that he was actually outside, but the content of the video convinces me that he's genuine... not that it would be disingenuous to greenscreen a park.
hahaha
QUESTION: Can you please tell me your thoughts about studying computer engineering in Ukraine it's really overwhelming that some say it's good some say it's a horrible idea and it also seems that it's way more affordable than in the US ?(2800$ per year)
I'm about to fail my cs final lol
Your 4k video is murdering this POS business computer I am on at work.
The girl walking by at 0:44 was reported missing merely hours after the recording of this video.
No, luckily not, as far as I know :)
Man I don't know how you put up with these questions to be honest.
i started in codeacademy oh the good ol days when i got excited for a hello world prompt
Leandro I started there too lol, what was your first completed class? Mine was java
i started with javascript, barely remember the syntax now
i wish they had more classes because i really like how they make you code
I loved code academy. I started with Javascript too because at the time there the Java class was not a thing. I don't remember a thing from Javascript but it got me into actual code (scratch does not count).
I have loved computers, after matric I attending a open day session at our local University that introduced me to CS, which I fell in love with. But lately I have failed all my courses and even kicked out of my BS, I am even considering changing the field altogether, even learning simple android with my free time is taking longer way longer than usual to complete a task like connecting a button. I feel so frastrated becuase I dont see myself doing any other job?? help
well said
This dude has a great voice.
not everyone is good for programming. thats the point!
nice bro
to find IT jobs institution or academic result matters??im a computer science student from a local private university...from Bangladesh
Nice background!
For those non-Americans and ones who want the summary, go to 5:38 :)
The ranting was interesting though and I got a crack out of it.
May I ask anyone?: Technology is the application of Computer or Computer is the application Technology?
do you really find woods to go and do videos or is it a green screen
buy one of those logic puzzle books. if you start doing the problems and 3 days later you emerge from your bedroom starving and thirsty but the book is complete, then programming is good for you.
i am from Bangladesh.I always fascinated about computers and wanted to learn about them.i wanted my own pc so i took engineering.then i got cs course as my under graduation course.i didnt know anything about programming before.Then some seniors of my university introduced me to the world of programming.i enjoyed very much learning.but i could not implement the theories practically....i am not good at logic and math....now i am afraid that i am not good for programming.what should i do now?give up?or try?i really wanna learn
@papia karmakar Hey, I highly regard your passion to learn programming. I think if you really like to build computer programs and like the computing language it will be easy for you to train your logic skills.
If you like programming you'll also be motivated and having fun solving problems or working towards a specific project goal.
If you do this often, what I suggest you'll because you like programming, "computer logic" skills come by them selves.
Concerning maths I can only recommend you to practice more and pay more attention in class. In 5th and 6th grade I had an E in maths, today I am in the before last class and I have a B just because I payed more attention and learned the basics.
The most important aspect is, that you have fun in programming. Skills come automatically.
So go for it if you think this is the right thing for you ! :-)
thank you so much for your advice :) i will try my best
Every time when I face an error message when I coding, I say "is coding right" for me
Even if I know the only thing I good at is coding.
how did it motivate you?
I am start studying CS..But i am confused how i start with it?And how i will be a great programer ....Please help me....
nice video.
Ahhhh these are entertaining videos...
Hello! My name is Daniil. I'm from Russia! I love programming. Can you gave me some advice?
ELI for President!!
Eli for president 2016!
Do you need a smartphone if you want to get into freelance web development? I really don’t know so if somebody can input they’re thoughts that would be cool. Computers are cool but I hate my smartphone
I started the Team Treehouse Python course. So far its going good. Anyone else familiar with this website?
Curious what happen to youbro
I agree, that US citizens should generally know how the law directly affects their day to day living, and we definitely should be knowledgeable of stocks and OTHER interest accounts that can provide return on one's money being "used" by a financial institution (IRA, savings account, bonds, etc), but this is stuff that can be learned in a month and many times is only valuable knowledge if you are already gainfully employed (You have to be employed by an employer that implements 401K to even use or benefit from a 401K, and, with most companies, you can't enroll or benefit from a 401K until after four years of employment history with the company. If you are self employed, there is no 401K). The average person can't learn programming well enough in a month for it to be of great benefit.
Equity only applies to business owners (successful enough for equity to matter) and home owners (a lot goes into owning a home, and many times equity is used for other major purchases or to pay off a large debt. If you owe money in school loans, equity could benefit paying off school loans or credit card debt. And having a lot of school debt is going to make it difficult to get a loan to purchase a home. Moreover, why would one have substantial credit card debt that needs equity to reduce the debt? Don't use credit cards for things you don't need).
Career fields like computer programming can provide jobs where all of this stuff you mentioned (outside knowing your rights as a citizen) becomes important enough to even invest time learning about it all. If you are stuck at an hourly wage job making 15 dollars an hour, 9 times out of 10 you ain't owning no home that's accruing equity.
First, figure out a way to make enough money to create savings each month, reduce debts as best you can, then worry about home ownership, equity, and jobs that offer 401Ks.
Could you explain, what is the difference between computer programming and IT ?
Your question should be: what is the difference between computer science and IT? As computer programming is just the job computer scientists do.
Computer science is just that, it's a science. So, computer scientists are interested in the theory behind computer programs, they use maths and logic to understand the theory and practice of the code behind programs and software. It's a very mathematical, theoretical field.
IT professionals use the technology created by computer scientists and the engineers that put the hardware together. It is very practical with very little theory involved, it's more to do with interacting with clients and troubleshooting. IT professionals also tend to have a huge array of knowledge on all things hardware, rather than specialising in just one field.
Think of it like nascar, the programmers are the guys building the car/engine/etc, the IT guy is the one driving it.
+SerBallister that's a great example.. to extend it:
1) IT guys drive the car
2) programmers build the car
3) computer scientists determine what kind of car is possible to make in the first place
It's possible the person who wrote this question is terrible at expressing themselves. Maybe they meant they hate hardware. It helps to know some things about how computers work when programming, so you can accurately picture what is happening between memory and storage and processing and all that, but to be honest, you probably don't have to love hardware to be a decent coder. It's more about learning to think in certain ways, learning to be organized and think in terms of breaking a complex task up into smaller tasks and coming up with algorithms for the smaller tasks.
sir why C PROGRAMMING still use for creating OPERATING SYSTEMS ?
Because its a lot easier to manipulate files and directories with c languages rather than python, Java, html or any other high level languages is what I've been told
Hi Eli, I have dyslexia, I want to know how to program and I love computers but will it be hard for? thanks
+Jay Tenedora-Forte He may not see this, so perhaps I can help answer.
I think the biggest struggle for you may be reading requirements, reading docs, reading code.
However for reading code, IDEs have gotten very powerful with syntax highlighting, code completion and immediately showing errors in your code's syntax.
This will help to alleviate a lot of issues you may have. The others you can work through.
So, yeah thinks will be a little harder for you than some others may find it. But I don't think it's anything you couldn't work through.
The cool thing about programming is that you don't have to wait, you can watch tutorials at any time, no deadlines and give it a shot, have fun building.
+mmafan400 Thanks man!!!
Is i.t. more hands on ?
Yes! Same problem in UK. People dont even know basics about tax, stock market and pensions
No problem in Ukraine, government always trying to rob you,very easy to understanding.
Cleaning stools, puke, and watching people die, or at the worst time of their lives is NOT fun, as a nurse what you want.
good vid!
where do you live?is this a park? its so amazing...
Eniac
he sounds exactly like the kahn academy guy