SPREADSHEETS AND SPARES! Opinions on Williams' Catastrophic Australian GP Week
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- First the spreadsheet. Then the crash. Then no spare car because the two they had were late, and then having to tell one of the drivers they can't race.
It used to be something from an episode of Story Time involving someone like Andrea Moda or Life, but now it's happening to historically, one of the most successful teams of all time.
So... What happened at the weekend? Was it right? Was it wrong? and should Williams do better? Or CAN they do better under these regulations?
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Ugh, this took forever to do. Feel dizzy for some reason.
Early night I think...
Manflu ?...cup of tea with curry powder in it, go to bed and be right as rain in the morning
Puffer? If you have trouble breathing, you’re bound to spend more energy doing it. If you don’t get enough oxygen with every breath, same.
I’m a bit worried there tbh. Lately you’ve had that thing in your hand constantly.
Had it in my hand for something to fiddle with rather than I need it.
British bias for someone registered as a Thai racing driver.
It took forever to do because you used a spreadsheet (MEMES!!) Didn’t know Schumacher sometimes raced or qualified in the spare Ferrari!!
This is why F1 can be a goldmine for the imaginative youtuber.
A seemingly insignificant crash gives a great converaation starter on Excel spreadsheets (I enjoy them) and a lovely old quirk of the F1 ruleset from years gone by.
The most iconic use of a spare car also occurred in Australia. That of course would be Martin Brundle's 1996 crash at Albert Park...also the most miraculous use of a spare car in F1
Brundle's head is still spinning from that one.
@@JohnSmithShields wasnt the only time he did it either IIRC.... wasnt it two years running?
I don't disagree with the decision, Albon is the faster driver. Also although he didn't score points, his 11th place finish has kept them in 8th place on countback
A possibly interesting story of how spare cars could work in the past. In the 1976 German GP (I was there!) Rolf Stommelen was entered to drive a Brabham Cosworth for the RAM team. He did practice with the car, but then it got seized in some legal move by Loris Kessel, another RAM driver. Bernie Ecclestone, then the Brabham owner, put Stommelen (a Ring expert) into the spare Brabham Alfa Romeo (a flat 12 engine) and Stommelen practiced in that too. He qualified 15th and finished 6th, after the horror of Lauda's crash and the race stoppage. So, he practiced in 2 very different cars, and took a spare to the points.
I have to say, the reasoning behind giving Albono the car was sound. Unfair, but sound. Imagine if Logie'd been in the car and finished just outside the points. 'Albon would have gotten at least P9' - the moaning would have no end.
It undoubtedly was the right decision, unfair but life isn't fair. They can't expect to score points most races, so they have to play the odds. They didn't score this time, but they might next time.
On his out lap in P2, Sargent visibly gunned it over the gravel trap causing his spin. He had a chance. He blew it. They would have given Albon the last car even if they hadn't considered it before.
Didn't work though did it, so it was objectively a bad decision, no hypothetical will change that fact
@@ibex485How can you say it was the right decision when it objectively didn't work
@@sergeantsupreme4395 Did you actually read what I said? They have to play the odds.
The odds of Albon scoring points is greater then Sargeant. There's no guarantee that he will score points, but he scored 7 timed out of 22 races last year(??) vs 1 in 22 for Sargeant.
If you were James Vowles or any other team principal and you had two strategy options, one with an almost 1 in 3 probability of scoring points vs a 1 in 22 (with a lower points yield if it scores), which would you go for?
Likewise if a driver was offered two strategy options with the same odds.
To say it was the wrong decision because Albon didn't score that race is revisionist nonsense.
I like to imagine that that spreadsheet was originally created by Patrick Head and Adrian Newey in the early 90s when excel was cutting edge. Its probably not the case, but its a funny thought.
Youtueb deleting my comment. It wouldn't be any of them. Newey won't even use a phone, much less computer and gets his emails printed out daily. Head was a dinosaur. It would've been Paddy Lowe. He was the Williams computer guru, he used them for driver aides and also car design. Until he was late building a car, as well, but it wasn't a spare. It was THE CAR
Also, he was at mercedes after Williams in the 1990s, then went back to Williams to try to give them some German secret sauce, and made a serious flop that wasn't built on time
@@angelotana3040 Who was?
As paradoxical as it sounds, Newey is a very old fashioned kinda guy - he still uses an actual drawing board. Microsoft Excel might actually be a little too advanced for him.
@@MrSaywutnow Yes i know but excel was not used to design the car, it was used to keep track of all the parts…
I was having to explain this to my dad and phrased it as “imagine if Dale binned the car and Childress had no spares, in essence he’s taking Mike Skinner’s car” to explain in nascar terms
Alex Bowman actually ran Jimmie Johnson's backup car after he tore up his backup car in 2019.
As a retired Microsoft consultant I know the challenge with historic Excel sheets is companies do not want to upgrade them to something more appropriate ( Power Platform or SQL) because the guys who 'designed' them and wrote macros never documented anything and have all left the company. Better the devil you know etc, until a Mr Vowles takes over. He should have a stern word with Mrs Wolff..... 😉
I am the old dinosaur who got a good job turning those excel sheets to SQL databases with Access front end... good days.
Now everything must go into the cloud...
Add to that that both Frank Williams and Patrick Head were really old school and had a reputation for holding on to things. It's been said before that multiple drivers, a manufacturer (BMW) and a very important team member (Adrian Newey) quit Williams F1 because the management, Williams and Head, wouldn't budge for the simple reason of "We are in charge, so it's our way or the highway."
@@tjroelsma It's sad to say but Frank and Patrick's hubris ended up killing the team. Imagine how many more championships they'd have!
@@jamesprumos7775 Agreed, but it's something you see happening at other teams as well. They get it all right and are on top, but then their stubbornness to change with the times drags them down again.
Still.... You don't "design a car in excel" ... People are getting hung up on this one quote from James 'wordsmith' Vowles. Excel is perfectly fine for cataloguing items, but I'm sure you can purchase a fancy piece of software with a nice GUI and then have people train your staff on how to use it.
Frank and Claire spent their last 20 years in F1 resting on the 18 years that their team spent being any good.
I don't think that's fair to Claire. I think Frank held the reigns for way too long and didn't give her enough freedom to make necessary changes. Also I think her close relationship with her father would have clouded her judgement. He was a legend of the sport, but he should have stepped back long before the team was sold.
@@marcellakilgarriff I think it's totally fair. James Vowles has done more in a year and a half than she did in nearly a decade. She was out of her league and only in her position because she was daddy's little girl when there were countless better qualified people available. As to Frank himself, there's a reason that he was known as a wanker before he hooked up with Patrick Head, and why they returned to such status when he was no longer closely involved. The team should have been renamed after him, as he was the cornerstone of their success.
@@F1jones sure, I agree on the Frank thing. I'm not saying she was the right person for the job by any means, I just think she was given the short end of the stick by Frank and she gets a lot of heat for their failure when it's his lack of foresight and unwillingness to co-operate that is the primary cause of it. Also worth noting that James Vowles has said Dorilton are providing him with enough of a budget that money is no longer such an issue. Money was a major issue when Claire was Deputy TP
@@marcellakilgarriff I'd just argue that one of the cheapest upgrades even an F4 team could make is to hire a contracted SQLServer admin to port that spreadsheet into a real database that everyone can read and update, which one could likely be contracted to do in less than a week. An app developer could have put together an interface in a month. Time is money, especially in F1, so that would be an investment that could save tens of thousands of dollars downstream. Apparently that was too much for the team boss to imagine in nearly a decade.
Pedro's dad was the owner of brazlian's Tesco. He died last month. In the case of Prost with Trulli and Panis, Jarno once said tha they had a deal that every two races each one would be the one taking the spare car. At Spa in 1998 Trulli was the one taking the spare car. And yes, Ferrari and some other big teams usually took 4 cars to Monaco. In 1995 Berger and Alesi crashed at the first start and both were fitted for the second start. Always great to see your videos!
Its just a spare chassis these days, rather than a spare car. They have build the car, put a engine, gearbox, suspension, brakes and everything else on.
The Mick Foley reference was *chef’s kiss*
How that man still knows his own name is a miracle. Considering what happened to Benoit.
@@AidanMillward no one knows how he knows his name and how he's not paralyzed
I watched the Wrestle Me episode of that match and I still wince at each chair shot 😬
Albon's 11th keeps them in 8th. Even if he didn't score points that 11th could count for something in the end
Hopefully after the modernisation of Williams is complete they will never have these winter production issues again. It would be cool to see what is essentially the last privateer team in F1 return to competitiveness.
I'm glad you've examined this story from the spare car angle. That's what I was thinking but didn't see any of the online yelling even mentioning it.
Wonder why Williams insisted on sticking with the old-way kind of fashion even beyond 2009.
Oh wait forgot the shareholders of the team at that time.
Not to mention that even during their BMW years where the engine was mighty, the chassis and aero weren't up to snuff.
@@alexpeak16 looking back at the stats, facts and story from garage and paddock, it's a fucken miracle they somehow remain intact
I could be misremembering but I seem to recall there was a race where Schumacher crashed on a start and had to go to the backup car but for some reason the car was setup for Rubens and they had to scramble to get the seat, pedals, etc. swapped over in time. They managed to do it and Schumacher made the restart. I do know there was at least one time the opposite was the case where the car was setup for Michael and they had to scramble to swap it for Rubens
Why do I feel like this might have been the 2001 German Grand Prix after the big crash with him and Burti meant a red flag after lap 1
This one tickled my neurons, I feel confident I've heard Ross Brawn speak about Barrichello getting in the T-car with Schumacher's setup and those preferring the throttle/brake on opposite feet, making driving the T-car a whole ordeal for Barrichello. For some reason I believe it was in Brazil.
@@charamia9402 Brazil would be a good bet because Rubens had so much bad luck at Interlagos lmao I do remember races when Rubens had to jump in a T car setup for Michael as well
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1Did he ever even finish a race at Interlagos?
@@charamia9402 Never heard of anyone wanting the throttle on the left but Michael was a left foot braker while Rubens was notorious for being a right foot braker. Many state that as the reason he was always a bit slower at Suzuka.
The last time a t car was used in a race start was Adrian Sutil in Brazil in 2007. It was banned in 08. Also Nigel didn't get taken out at Brands in 86 his clutch blew up.
It's just a legacy of Frank and Patrick's 'our way is best' attitude that is only now changing thanks to Vowles
Mick Foley reference, nice!
Some old engineer at Williams: "This never would've happened if we kept using good old Excel"
Needless to say I am offended by their choice to ditch the holy spreadsheet!
Heusinkveld engineering business secrets REVEALED.
the “touch grass” line is superb 👏
Maybe I am old fashioned, but I think if you crash out in practice such that your car can't be fixed, you shouldn't be able to just take your teammate's car. I don't care how much quicker you are than they are. Your teammate shouldn't suffer because you crashed out. I don't think Williams did the right thing here at all.
I think back to Red Bull at the British GP in 2010 where the team had two new front wings. In one session Seb's broke. By the afternoon session the new wing that was on Mark's car reappeared on Seb's.
They did the right thing for the team, not the right thing for the individual drivers. As it will always go, since constructor's standings is what determines the payout at the end of the year.
One advantage of driving for Ferrari was they used to bring 2 spare cars to all races.
Very useful when Berger & Alesi collided with Coulthard at the start at Monaco in 1995, causing a red flag.
Oh man thank god for You Aidan, something to take my mind off... the UK situation. driving me mad, losing the will to live and then I see a new Millward Masterpiece 👍
Based what happened last weekend, I think Logan Sargeant is going to be in Indy Car and/or NASCAR in a few years, much like every other American F1 driver in the last 20-25 years.
I think he might get a WEC (or even a FE) detour first.
Word is that not a single Indycar team puts any stock in Logan. Probably would mean nothing though because if there's enough cash behind him Ganassi would take him and throw him into a pay ride so he can keep paying his two champions.
At the rate Indycar is going, why would you even want to? Its beyond stagnate, out of touch and management is refusing to budge (Not to mention that NO team is eyeing up Logan). NASCAR maaaaybe but I feel like it would take brother Dalton to do a Hell of alot of convincing for someone to take him there (assuming he even wants to learn an entirely new discipline). At best, maybe a P2 drive somewhere (IMSA, ELMS, ASLMS) would be the best option, lot of dentists with shit skills but big pockets and they don't care.
Yeah, honestly, if you did a big feature on T-cars it'd probably return a massive view count because the info is so hard to find and learn about, but they're always associated with super interesting stories.
There is a reason several teams were sponsored by SAP!
I thought SAP was the button you pressed to watch stuff En Español on American TV?
why do you think Red Bull is sponsored by Oracle? Spoiler alert: it's got nothing to do with Java
@@OnionChoppingNinja fuck Java, it pays my bills, but I loathe it.
I got an ad for project management stuff just before the video...
In the big teams, they often had a "this race it's yours, next race it's his" system. Unless the one was likely to fight for the championship, I guess.
Ahhhhh excel! What I'm using right now whilst I listen to this.
Great work as always Aidan
You got me at the Royal Rumble 1999 reference with the 11 chair shots to Mick Foley… I still get ptsd seeing the live reaction of his family watching that in the movie - Beyond The Mat 😢
I haven't watched Beyond The Mat in a long time but Vince McMahon yelling 'HE'S GONNA PUKE!' lives rent free in my head!
I was just happy to see a race that wasn't a Max-led parade.
I don't think Williams could win in this situation. If they sat Albon out with 'you binned yours mate, sorry' attitude, and letting Sargent race, everyone would be up in arms saying Albon is a much better driver, should give the car to him, he's more likely to score points, etc. As has been said, it's a team sport and Albon has done better than Sargent, hence, he got the car.
F1 fans are a joke, they'll bitch about everything regardless of whatever logic is behind said situation. Perfect example of people that don't want a solution, they just want to be mad (although at this point, feels like that's damn near everyone nowadays)
It gets worse, they may not be able to repair the damaged chassis or build the third one in time for Suzuka, so Williams may only have one car on the grid before a wheel is turned,
Surely they need something like a full custom Dynamics from the bottom up setup? They need full integrated accounts, POPs, Machine shop, design shop integration, BOM's, MAP, etc, all of it. Just for the basic running of a company like that??? How do they even order parts and consumables off suppliers and get purchase orders through to delivery notes and GRN's and remittance?? When suppliers and customers handle stuff like that, people run a mile. I'm surprised it's been going this long.
Nice video, it's good to hear some logic about the situation, sure i would prefer it if bpoth drivers had taken the start, but for various reasons it could not happen
I remember that race with Mansell taking the spare car setup for Piquet. Perhaps it's nostalgia but I think it was one of the greatest eras in F1.
Another quality production
Argo, Ben Aflek cracked me up
would love to see that excel sheet :-)
I first started watching F1 during the Schumacher years; I always thought the madness was normal.
Another instance where a driver had to take the spare car was in Detroit 1982 when Jean Pierre Jarier crashed his Osella in the race and took the other car over from Riccardo Paletti, leaving the Italian driver without a drive, Riccardo Paletti was unfortunately killed in a fiery crash in the Canadian Grand Prix the following week.
Vowels must have known the state of Williams engineering practices when he took the job. If not, he's paying for it now.
He’s the greatest noun to ever verb
It’s a bit more complicated than the Excel thing. Where I work (engineering/manufacturing) we use Epicor (sponsor of Mindari-Toro Rosso-Alpha Bullshine) and you use it to track not only parts but the parts that make the parts. A front wing will be one such item, but inside that you’d have 20+ other parts made up of 100+ other parts. From that you’d have stock locations and progress of manufacturing of the part. So a wing would maybe have 3 in the system. One in stock, one in WIP, and one in procurement. What happened with Williams is that often a part would be listed on Excel being in X location, and it wouldn’t be there. Plus there would be no visibility on when Y part would be completed to go in to stock. So it’s poor/outdated inventory management too. But there is so much manufacturing and other processes built on an ERP (or spreadsheet for Williams) that even a database in the pure sense could cope with, and this dictates internal processes too. It’s proper root and branch stuff. Funnily enough though, about 13/15 years ago I worked for Wetherspoons as a barman and I would help the manager count cash at the end of the night. Wetherspoons used this fucking mammoth spreadsheet full of macros that would allow the manager to order stock and upload takings etc for head office. Would not surprise me if Gammon Man’s Carling empire still used it.
I work in IT, but have only been in the manufacturing/engineering industry for about a year. We use SAP here, but i dont think i could have put it better myself if i had another 5-10 years working in this sector.
Side note, My grandpa used Excel for his business(classic/antique car parts). about 15 years ago his spreadsheet he used for years tracking inventory and sales crashed, and because it was so big it took a couple of weeks to recover. We(me and my dad) got him set up on an access database that we setup the front end to look like his excel spreadsheet.
"I'm trying to be funny." **spit take** Thanks!
Imagine the amount of macros and VLOOKUPs on those spreadsheets
If they’re anything like mine were for that acoustics module it’d say something about the formulae being fucked. 🤣
@@AidanMillward one wrong Ctrl+V breaking the entire 2023 Williams Car. Imagine that
About Spare Cars: Back in the day, teams that didn't have a clear nr1 and nr2 driver, would often alternate wich driver the spare car were set up for.
so Race 1: Trulli
Race 2: Panis
race 3: Trulli
Race 4: Panis etc
this could easily be the reason, the spare car was set up for Trulli for that race, so therefore he got it.
Each team needs to carry two spares. Period.
MS made a database manager called Access. However I can't remember if there was any newer version after Office 2007.
Oof.
I don't know why, but that Argo cought me off guard 😂
Old family guy joke.
Meanwhile Red Bull probably have a proprietary database solution for this where parts are inventoried like a relational database, with json documents detailing components as sub-tables, each of those tables with costs and material properties outlined, then some nice link that opens up the CAD application for the 3d model of the part or component to be tested in CFD simulations.......
Just as a personal experiment I did an imaginary soccer* league on a spreadsheet one time. It worked OK. The only fault was if I was ranking the teams in a division by points and they had the same amount, I didn't know if you could add a clause to the formula to allow for goal difference if points were level so I had to do that separation manually, leading to it thinking there were errors in the formula or on the page. So it has its limitations. I worked for a company that made solenoids and solenoid valves ten years ago and, as part of my job, I had to log assemblies and individual parts within assemblies in order in a new database system from an old one and link to another database to generate new part numbers. They had part and assembly numbers on a spreadsheet but it was the database that had all the important info and I wouldn't have been able to do it on a spreadsheet with its limitations. To think Williams in this day & age didn't have some sort of modern database for their f1 car parts and assemblies is mind boggling.
*I had to say soccer because I'm from Ireland and that's how we distinguish it from gaelic football.
If I remember correctly. One of Schumacher’s teammates took the T-car (in brazil I think).
The teammate used the right pedal for braking, while Michael used the left. Must’ve been a very tough adjustment.
The pedals were in the same place. Michael used his left foot to press it, while Rubens used his right foot for both throttle and brake and only used his left for clutch.
So there is a chance i could run a F1 team with Open Office, slim chance...
As long as they didn't have to make a new steering column it's all good
This is yet another case of F1 CLEARLY stating that Americans have no room in the series. Vegas, COTA, and Miami need to be EMPTY this year.
Bro, Logan isn't good. Lets stop pretending he is this absolute goodsend that America needs on the grid because guess what? He's not. He doesn't score the team points, hardly even contributes to the team's effort so they chose the guy that has scored this team the most points (by a massive margin). This xenophobic bullshit over a lackluster driver simply based on where he's from is beyond stupid and this is coming from an American who was there when Red Bull got Scott Speed a ride (and oh boy, that also went to shit). He is as worthless on the grid as several other european or asian drivers that simply do not do anything.
Also, fuck Vegas and Miami. They need to be gone regardless if an American team OR driver is on the Grid or not, just more shitty examples of how out of touch F1 is.
That's not what it is at all. I want Sargeant to improve and succeed, but at the moment Albon is the better driver. Williams desperately need every point they can get. They made the pragmatic decision even though it was a lousy one to take, and laughable to be in that position in the first place.
@@jsquared1013 Nope, Albon trashed the car, Albon can sit his ass out. Between this and the Andretti situation, F1 clearly hates American competitors, they only want American money.
The Dilemma ist not a Dilemma.
If you compromise your Season Start by not having a spare Chassis > Make your Mind up beforehand, what you're going to do when this or that happens. This has nothing to do with Workload, Budgets or Spreadsheets. You take a Risk, discuss the Risk with your Drivers beforehand.
Also what People miss. Albon put the Car in the Wall twice. His total driving Time in the Car on this Track between his Crash last Year and this Year was 40 Minutes.
While Logan spun the Car, but didn't hit the Wall. I'd say, it's much easier to not hit a Wall when you're not spinning, and it's easier to hit a Wall when your are spinning the Car. So Logan spinning the Car, without hitting the Wall, showed some better Racecraft on this Track, than Albon did in 2 Years.
The actual Dilemma is that they still don't know for sure, if they can repair the Chassis. At the moment, it's still a Jeopardy if they'll even have a second Chassis in Suzuka, and even if, they won't have a spare Chassis then.
They sacrificed the spare Chassis for Performance, yet they haven't scored a Point in the first Races.
The next Races will show if how this turns out, but they've put themselves potentially in a very precarious Position.
Thank you for this thing! Or, I mean, video 😂
So does this mean Paddy Lowe doesn't deserve the hate that he got for the infamous season start of 2018.
Does anyone know how the Williams can have an order of magnitude more components in it this year than last year? And was that necessarily a bad thing to have fewer components?
As an American. Logan deserves better, for no reason other than I’m an American too. As an American. Or did I mention that..Yeah, we obnoxious. 🦅
What the fuck is free healthcare SKWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRKKKKKK or whatever the meme is.
@@AidanMillward😂
On F1's pre-race show Alex Brundle said that Williams don't have a spare car, and they wouldn't have a car ready until Japan (next race). I don't know if that means they actually don't have a spare whatsoever, or if it just means they didn't have a spare prepped.
Either way it underscores the struggle of the privateer teams in moderns F1.
They are hoping to repair the chassis for the next race. I don't think they are going to have a spare for at least two more races.
@@simonkevnorris you are correct, they are repairing Alex's crashed chassis, which delays the spare chassis even more. So in Suzuka they will _probably_ have two cars, and still no spare. Ridiculous in the modern era. I don't know if James knew the magnitude of the mess he was inheriting.
And I wouldn't say it's anything about the "struggle of the privateer" but simply the long-running ineptitude that has kept Williams at the back of the pack for ages.
that I quit match is still epic
Montermini's non start at Monaco in 96 was due to his crash in acclimatisation practice which I have actually seen. From memory it didn't seem that bad a crash compared to Hakkinen's from the same session
An interesting Williams fact. In the twelve years since their last win they have failed to score a top six finish in six seasons. Even McLaren managed to do that in 2015-2017
Williams lost the spare car in the spreadsheet. Common mistake.
Horror week for Williams all around, from the optics of the team, to the performance, to the strategy. Literally could not have been any worse. Shocking. Makes Alpine looks functional.
As someone over supply chain for a billion dollar revenue company, I laughcry that we do basically all analytical work in excel and our supply chain software is only a marginal step above it. It’s be a dream to get something properly designed for the purpose.
Mate you gotta get a spreadsheet for all the thing's!
What gets me is that Williams are clearly paying for an office package so surely a database program like MS Access would be included? Given how long this spreadsheet malarky has supposedly being going on Im amazed that no one at Williams suggested to switch to am Access database. Sure it wouldnt be as sophisticated as a combined asset and project management app but it would still be better than an Excel spreadsheet.
I love a good spreadsheet, sadly, they are few and far between... most are a stop-gap at best, a permanent stop-gap... 😂
I currently design databases using Quickbase. Providing the requirements are worked out correctly any developer or tech savvy individual can start building a database very quickly and cheaper than using a custom database
Ikea flatpack :) ‘Hallö?’ ‘Hello, yes. I have your Effone carkit. You forgot to include the Allen key.’
It seems a bit odd that they allow you to bring a whole spare car, only it has to be in bits. What sportive or competitive purpose does that serve?
I'm guessing to stop creative rule bending to use the spare chassis, 'just this one time'.
I miss the days of T cars
Wait wait: Alpine, AKA team enstone (Championship winning Bennetton/Renault Team Enstone)...were also using a Spreadsheet? What the hell? They have far more money then Williams, why the hell did they need one?
Itd not be too difficult to write an Access database for the parts with parent/child relationships.
As someone who spends time on Excel as a job, this thing is...insane.
This isn't the first time in recent years that Williams haven't had enough cars! They missed _multiple_ days of preseason testing in 2019, while Claire Williams was still running things. Paddy Lowe ended up departing the team a few months later, in a way that he was seen as the "fall guy," but a lot of folks (myself included) saw that a bit cynically. As in, if the guy who's won multiple constructor's titles with the Mercedes juggernaut came over to the same job or similar in your team, and things are still a shitshow, it isn't likely he completely forgot how to do things or lost his skill set. I didn't listen to his full Beyond the Grid podcast, but the excerpts sound like there were MAJOR structural and organizational problems, and the intransigent traditional leadership wasn't amenable to making enough changes. Fortunately for James Vowles, it seems the current owners are a bit more flexible, but it sounds like he still has a major undertaking there to uproot the old bad habits and sort the team out.
I’m listening this as I work on a spreadsheet….😂
5:27 Why do I think it might have been the Michael and Albers after the bizarre warmup crash of China 2005 lol
I remember Kimi also qualifying in the T car for Monza 2007 after his big crash when he tweaked his neck in FP3
Good "thing" here', Mate
All they had to do was import the excel spreadsheets to Microsoft access and then export it to any database of their choice instead of building a new database.
That feels very... Williams... to do the main design and budget on Excel... My guess is that stock was controlled in Access...
Nothing was in Access, that's the problem. Access is at least a proper database, Excel is not. (And nothing was "designed" in Excel)
K8nda wonder if the spreadsheets are due to lack of funds over the years limiting system upgrades or just old heads not prepared to move forward. Considering basic database software and implementation is cheapish im kinda thinking more the old heads got stuck in the past. We've all seen it at businesses we've worked at.
I have footage of the accident, he bottomed out over a lump along the curve. unsettled the car and lost control.
The same thing happened to Alonso later in the day where he popped a wheelie over the same spot. 😂
Excel gives me shudders, as too many organisations use it to manage data....and that's not was it's there to do. Changing Excel culture is something I face every day
Piastri 4th. Nothing else mattered last weekend. Absolutely stoked to have a new up and coming aussie in a resurging mclaren. Side note Rebel Sport decided this week to start selling F1 merch, was after a pair of runners, walked out with a McLaren tee. Looks like ive officially jumped ship from Red Bull and Danny Ric. Sorry bruh....
Another side note, im tentatively predicting Piastri might get a couple of podiums, have a couple of bad runs, then pop his cherry big time and get a couple of wins in quick succession. I can kind of forsee Norris doing similar, perhaps they might do enough to get as close as 2nd or 3rd in constructors and one of the two as high as 3rd in the driver tally.
But Danny Ric smiles a lot and won at Monza!
Volwes said they found Williams is still using there original version of excel bought in 1989. Purchased by a Peter Windsor. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think Williams are still stuck in the 90s and 80s and won't go
Forward. Even though they're under new management
i remember the time michael schumacher crashed out at the start drove the car back on the track so he could restart the race in the spare car after the RedFlag
So Logan can rightfully write a book just like prince Harry: the unwashed spare.
I'm actually a bit surprised that rival teams around Williams didn't complain that they hadn't made their best efforts to field the two cars they're contracted for. Incredibly petty but after all, this is Formula 1.
aaaa....the excel sheet still lives.
I miss the days of the tobacco companies on the cars
Not Albons' or Sargeants' cars
They belong to Williams
You missed Part Two of this story. Williams has said they are not sure they can have a spare ready for Japan in two weeks. I think we know who is gong to get the ride that weekend and who will be in the outhouse. Cue up the social media furies.
I'm fairly sure they won't have a spare for at least two more races. They are going to have to repair the damaged chassis that had a hole in it.
I've got a lot of time for James Vowles (now) but I feel like he's running out of the number of times he can go, 'This isn't what we wanted, we expected better, we'll do better next time...'
Apparently, Williams STILL won't have a spare chassis for a few more races!
Yes, that is what I heard. If course that is assuming they can fix the damaged chassis that had a hole in it!