@@mashumaroo_ true but she’s the most niche of all anemo supports to begin with and Kachina with this new artifact set is flexible since geo doesn’t ruin most other reactions and will boost their damage. So again, no problem to be seen I think
@@Redhood_Ghost You said to name one anemo support who doesn't use VV and I did. Now, if we want to get technical, yes, there's no single SWIRLER not married to VV
VV is important, but all VV supports have buffs or cc inherent to their kit thus the character themselves isn't necessarily just focused on the gear. Sucrose buffs EM and has suction, Venti has suction and does decent swirl dps, Kazuha buffs elemental damage AND has suction, Xianyun has her healing and her plunge support, and Sayu is an overworld explorer. Kachina is bad damage and will be instantly replaced in most teams as soon as another Natlan support exists.
@Blue-ux4sk sayu also has healing and her exploration works properly outside of natlan. Kachina's exploration within Natlan will get replaced as soon as we get more Natlan units who all have good exploration in natlan. Lynette I would never call a support as I always saw her as more of a 4* anemo dps that doesnt necessarily use vv, but she's still a better support than Kachina since her base kit has an atk% buff and with constellations she gains a vortex effect. Better than Kachina's somewhat late constellation defense buff.
@@water2770 to be determined, in or out of natlan kachina can still climb walls decently. shes a little faster than kirara and even if she is dependent on artifacts to really make her worth it im happy she exists cause i was never pulling for albedo or chiori honestly. shes no xingqiu or bennett but i think shes a decent 4 star
Kachina may not be broken but she's better than my c2 Albedo (sadly). It's certainly better than Furina/Albedo/Chiori/Noelle since Kachina grants 40% geo dmg bonus and hydro dmg bonus. She will inevitably get replaced by Xilonen but, like dendro traveler, she's a good option for when I don't get Xilonen.
@@boopy6430 I have it maxed. The issue is Albedo doesn't have access to useful buffs in monogeo, em does essentially nothing. Kachina has one of the best support artifacts. Even if I get Albedo's c4, it will never be as good as the artifact buff. Albedo still does more damage than Kachina but the total damage from the team is lower.
and don't forget the Natlan exploration part! I'm building her because I want her in my team, and I want her in my team because she makes exploration easier (I'm skipping Mualani and Kinich)
She’s fine. I just will level her up to 80/90 to not die during battles. She’s very useful for exploration. That’s pretty much it for me and that’s fine.
Her only really good use at the moment is to be a F2P crystallise generator for Navia, specifically for anyone who doesn’t have Albedo or Chiori. As there aren’t many easily accessible off-field Geo units. And with Xilonen coming up there’s a chance that Kachina could be replaced super quickly and easily.
I do think the same thing but for someone whos a noelle main who skip albedo and got skipped by chiori, i do think kachina is the most perfect pair for my noelle at this time. I can build her sub dps and can still support the team with gorou. I really appreciate you mentioning noelle synergy with her, coz for a while I thought i was the only person that came up to this idea mainly because few players main noelle
I really would like a confirmation on this but ther C6 seems pretty cracked to me. (I wont have it for awhile since im skipping mullani) She could be off field and provide 200% of her defense from off field followed by immediately applying geo and likely causing another crystalize. This would theoretically mean that after the first Geo application she is an off field Geo/shield applier as well. I didn't even notice the new set at first and I was just using her as an exploration character with Husk of Opulent Dreams. Personally I love the flavor of the new set. It means that: With VV Anemo is thematically the "Agressive / Control" support and, With CC (Natlan) Geo is thematically the "Defensive" support. Its really just too bad that this wasn't a Geo speciific set that was unrelated to Natlan characters since its the buff Geo needed and deserved.
I have a vid where how kachina and kazuha buffed my neuvi elemental damage that he needs since he is using hp goblet, needless to say i was impressed by the buffs along with furina as a sub dps i have it at the build showcase what was the difference in terms of stats
As a proud Noelle main, I love the team suggestion at the end there. But unfortunately, Kachina is competing with Navia for that slot in my team. 40% damage bonus just can't compete with Navia's quickswap damage potential. Though, now I think on it, she would be buffing Furina as well...further testing required.
Presumably, a bit later in 4.0, we'll get a 5 star that fits a similar role while also providing more substantial team buffs and more consistency at the same buffs. Nahida comes to mind for Collei. Kinda Lynnette too but her replacements came before she released. Not really worth investing in since she doesn't need to be levelled to use the artifact set and I'll replace her soon enough. Leak spoilers: Totally definitely not talking about Xilonen btw.... for sure.
Not a dig but i think this video is so funny. It comes across as a really, for lack of a better word, copium defense for her. She's not that great a character in any regard and will be replaced by they who shall not be named. But on a seperate note, one thing that really stuck out to me was the "being geo is good for her and the set actually" thing because... no its not. It only really benefits geo characters and only geo characters that want to slot in other element characters. Anemo is a much better choice for support to have on it.
an anemo character would already want to use vv having to choose between vv or the new natlan one which is currently her only perk is already kind of a disadvantage while sure her being anemo might make her a " better character " i think it would make her a worse character over all ( value wise )
Actually, no, geo is actually very good for this set. Guess what's special about geo and anemo? They HAVE to be the triggering element for reactions, they can't be auras. So if you get a crystallize shard from twirly, you're guaranteed to get the bonus Vs, say you used any other element except anemo, you can't really guarantee that the triggering character is the one holding the set And afaik, there's no limit to the number of elements that can be buffed by this set at once. So if you can trigger pyro, hydro, and electro crystallize at once, you'll get 40% for all three elements + geo Anemo is the other element that this set is actually good for (for the reason above) but the problem is that VV exists. 40% res shred is actually very synergestic with this set, you'd normally want to run VV AND this set on a team rather than just one. (Ofc this alone is better than VV alone) So you'd need to run two anemo characters if you want to run both, and anemo resonance isn't that great for combat (unless you use charged attacks a lot ig), running double geo is way better honestly. Also geo crystallize doesn't eat up auras as easily as swirl can, so it doesn't really ruin reactions very much either, which is also a plus
@@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 geo isn't good for this though. yes, geo and anemo can only be the trigger, but this ignores the fact that you then have to run a geo/anemo character. and even more specifically, it has to be a natlan character that is anemo or geo. no anemo yet, of course, so the only option is kachina. who provides nothing to the team aside from being able to hold the set. if she were anemo, thats CC and swirl which contribute much more. this point about who triggers it is also weird because like... yes you can. if its not something like quicken where youre just trying to hit as fast as possible or freeze where it doesn't matter, most reactions are caused by the person you want to cause it (most notably, vape) there's also not a limit to the number of elements you can swirl. likes of kazuha and sucrose actually make it very easy to do double swirls. most people don't do it though (aside from certain difficulties) because there's no point buffing more than 2 element in a team since only 1 or 2 people are doing the team damage. VV is good, and a great set to use but not so good you can't forgo it ever. especially considering a lot of units have come out/are coming out with shred inherent anyway. niether is that great, but geo resonance is nicer for combat, but it only benefits actual shielders. youre not making enough crystalizes with kachina for it to work with that, and you wouldn't have zhongli there, since youre trying to buff other elements. so youre realy stuck to specific noelle/itto comps crystalize, especially if youre running it for buffing other elements + geo, eating away at aura's is actually a common problem. constantly talked about in the likes of double geo hu tao. also weird to say anemo would eat the aura when the whole point is swirling, which, depending on the team, is literally the fastest way to constantly apply auras (like sunfire) kachina being geo and using this set is literally not a benefit to any team except some specific geo ones.
@@silverYolo VV can only debuff one element afaik, it's in the description iirc Kazuha's dmg buff is the one that can buff multiple elements It looks like you seem to think all anemo units have cc in their kit from your comment? No, not all anemo can cc (Sayu and Xianyun for example), and not all anemo necessarily buff outside of VV either. Swirl and crystallize both eat 0.5x the elemental gauge upon hit (so they won't remove the element unless it's a strong application like Kazuha hold E) So there's no real difference between anemo or geo in this case, they're both just set holders. You're just used to anemo being generally better than geo bc VV exists. There's just a few differences that might matter in a few cases: 1) Swirl is more offensive than crystallize esp in AoE scenarios 2) Geo resonance is flat out better (and don't worry about going shieldless, crystallize shields are actually rather sturdy if you build EM on Kachina, plus you don't really care about her damage anyway, and Kachina(read Xilonen)+Zhong is a solid duo for a lot of hypercarries anyways, Zhongli's shield won't break) 3) Swirl does apply a stronger elemental aura than the initial cast in most cases, but that's not a very important consideration in most cases tbh, your team should be able to apply elements properly even without an anemo unit or you'll ruin reactions the moment the anemo skill runs out lol 4) anemo has the potential to ruin reactions, geo can't (like if one enemy has hydro and the others have pyro and you want pyro on the enemies, anemo can screw it up) Geo and anemo are relatively equally good when it comes to this set, idk why you're so bent on saying that anemo is better Also, that other thing you said. Supports don't usually trigger the main reaction of the team. If you're running a vape team, would you want a support to trigger vaporize and use up the aura? If you're running reverse vape, you'd probably like a hydro or electro or cyro support bc they don't eat up the aura. (Well frozen hides the hydro aura from all elements cryo reacts with so you'd probably only use cryo as a support if your dps is dendro but), and I'm not sure how the damage bonus works for catalyze (Someone test with Kinich to see if both electro and dendro get the bonus on Spread (not Quicken) or only dendro), so in general, only geo and anemo can reliably trigger the set to buff the right elements simply because they can't be aura elements and react with every aura except dendro. Uhh,,, did that make sense,,,,
@@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 huh? VV can debuff multiple elements. thats quite literally the point of double swirl setups. and no, the set does not say it can't, so idk where you got that from. of the anemo units, only 3 don't have some form of CC (sayu, xiao, and xianyun) so yes, anemo has CC in general, as well as having all of the major CC units anyway so idk what this point is trying to disprove. and nobody said anemo units needed to support to be good anyway. they just are inherently better by being anemo both elements eat reactions, but anemo re-applies it, applies it to groups of enemies, and CCs enemies. all very quickly there is a difference but in this statement, you actually have it reversed. a lot of you think anemo is only good because of VV, but even without VV, it would still be a great element, and better than geo, because of CC and being able to apply elements quickly/to groups of enemies. (and is also the only cleanse element that doesn't have a potential element issue) geo resonance is better for combat, but comes with massive caveats, which are to kachina's detriment because if she won't be run in the set up that triggers it, unless its specifically for a geo dps' benefit. its also really cope to think building EM for crystalize is going to work (and also not even true, youre going to be building her DEF for her damage disregardless, and even moreso with cons for the minute buffing she can do in her own kit) this swirl comment doesn't make sense because this is every team with every reaction, and even moreso, teams where the anemo unit is the applier have been a thing for forever and have been meta at some points (like venti/fischl or jean sunfire) and "ruining" reactions is the same for other elements too. difference being you get all the side benefits of an anemo character, and you don't even get the benefits of geo unless youre running the specific character that gives it (probably zhongli) geo and anemo are not close on this. its just a lot of you conflate anemo to VV and forget that swirl and anemo characters do more than just shred. idk what this point is. supports don't need to trigger the "main" reaction. kachina doesn't. just as long as they cause a reaction, its fine. this also doesn't matter for the set because you only need them to be involved in whatever element youre trying to buff. this is also weird because... this is wrong. i feel like you only have theoretical (somewhat wrong) info about some of this. the only thing close to what youre talking about is running something like cryo in hyperbloom, but that wouldn't apply to this conversation. and for this last bit, again, this point doesn't matter. the set buffs whatever reaction is apart of it. every element could do it and do it better than geo, just so happens an anemo support would have been better as a general support instead of a geo one.
![Kachina is FREE! [Genshin Impact Geo Only]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/A1o3u6ea0pE/mqdefault.jpg)
I personally don’t see any issue with the artifact thing. Name one anemo support not married to VV. Same principle.
Faruzan
@@mashumaroo_ faruzan is an anemocentric support tho so she doesnt count same how anemo dps dont count
@@mashumaroo_ true but she’s the most niche of all anemo supports to begin with and Kachina with this new artifact set is flexible since geo doesn’t ruin most other reactions and will boost their damage. So again, no problem to be seen I think
@@Redhood_Ghost You said to name one anemo support who doesn't use VV and I did. Now, if we want to get technical, yes, there's no single SWIRLER not married to VV
@@yanfeimain9135 but she’s also an “Anemo Support”
"It's not a good thing if a character's value comes from a piece of gear."
90% of anemo characters: 🤷♂️
VV is important, but all VV supports have buffs or cc inherent to their kit thus the character themselves isn't necessarily just focused on the gear. Sucrose buffs EM and has suction, Venti has suction and does decent swirl dps, Kazuha buffs elemental damage AND has suction, Xianyun has her healing and her plunge support, and Sayu is an overworld explorer. Kachina is bad damage and will be instantly replaced in most teams as soon as another Natlan support exists.
@@water2770 sayu is literally in the same boat as kachina . you could argue to same for lynette too.
@Blue-ux4sk sayu also has healing and her exploration works properly outside of natlan. Kachina's exploration within Natlan will get replaced as soon as we get more Natlan units who all have good exploration in natlan. Lynette I would never call a support as I always saw her as more of a 4* anemo dps that doesnt necessarily use vv, but she's still a better support than Kachina since her base kit has an atk% buff and with constellations she gains a vortex effect. Better than Kachina's somewhat late constellation defense buff.
@@water2770 to be determined, in or out of natlan kachina can still climb walls decently. shes a little faster than kirara and even if she is dependent on artifacts to really make her worth it im happy she exists cause i was never pulling for albedo or chiori honestly. shes no xingqiu or bennett but i think shes a decent 4 star
Turbo Twirly does not work on Liyue pressure plates, if anyone’s curious
Tbf, if a little girl can carry it, it's probably not that heavy.
@@gravityhurts2910 she holds a geo vision, thats not any little girl
That same little girl kills enemies with it so I don't think it's very light
a great thing about this is she’s super easy to build. just slap any 4pc cinder and u get a f2p kazuha
Very true! It could be a healer build and she’ll be ready to rock XD
My kachina is C6, and with Navia, her C6 passive turns all crystallized reaction to mini bomblets, it's super fun.
you’re so cool i always look forward to your video drops
Yes but can the other units breakdance?
hold up you might be cooking
Kachina may not be broken but she's better than my c2 Albedo (sadly). It's certainly better than Furina/Albedo/Chiori/Noelle since Kachina grants 40% geo dmg bonus and hydro dmg bonus. She will inevitably get replaced by Xilonen but, like dendro traveler, she's a good option for when I don't get Xilonen.
no cinnabar spindle?
@@boopy6430 I have it maxed. The issue is Albedo doesn't have access to useful buffs in monogeo, em does essentially nothing. Kachina has one of the best support artifacts. Even if I get Albedo's c4, it will never be as good as the artifact buff. Albedo still does more damage than Kachina but the total damage from the team is lower.
It's good to invest in her but she'll likely never in BIS after we get other users of the set
Xilonen lol
Xilonen is coming up. She is a different variant of kazuha-like buffer.
@@crumbs8533 plus a healer!
@@treetrunker573 she's gonna be BIS for a long time because I blew all my load on Mualani and I have no primos left for the next 2 patches 😭
@@Re_V it's a new region so the exploration alone might give you a chance
and don't forget the Natlan exploration part! I'm building her because I want her in my team, and I want her in my team because she makes exploration easier (I'm skipping Mualani and Kinich)
She’s fine. I just will level her up to 80/90 to not die during battles.
She’s very useful for exploration. That’s pretty much it for me and that’s fine.
Kachina with cinder with another with petra, the crystallized element gains massive 75% elemental damage bonus.
Her only really good use at the moment is to be a F2P crystallise generator for Navia, specifically for anyone who doesn’t have Albedo or Chiori. As there aren’t many easily accessible off-field Geo units.
And with Xilonen coming up there’s a chance that Kachina could be replaced super quickly and easily.
So excited for this video!!!
I do think the same thing but for someone whos a noelle main who skip albedo and got skipped by chiori, i do think kachina is the most perfect pair for my noelle at this time. I can build her sub dps and can still support the team with gorou. I really appreciate you mentioning noelle synergy with her, coz for a while I thought i was the only person that came up to this idea mainly because few players main noelle
I really would like a confirmation on this but ther C6 seems pretty cracked to me. (I wont have it for awhile since im skipping mullani)
She could be off field and provide 200% of her defense from off field followed by immediately applying geo and likely causing another crystalize. This would theoretically mean that after the first Geo application she is an off field Geo/shield applier as well. I didn't even notice the new set at first and I was just using her as an exploration character with Husk of Opulent Dreams.
Personally I love the flavor of the new set. It means that:
With VV Anemo is thematically the "Agressive / Control" support and,
With CC (Natlan) Geo is thematically the "Defensive" support.
Its really just too bad that this wasn't a Geo speciific set that was unrelated to Natlan characters since its the buff Geo needed and deserved.
I have a vid where how kachina and kazuha buffed my neuvi elemental damage that he needs since he is using hp goblet, needless to say i was impressed by the buffs along with furina as a sub dps i have it at the build showcase what was the difference in terms of stats
I'm very confused why the artifact set specifically works for her vs other units though, wouldn't any natlan support work the same way?
As a proud Noelle main, I love the team suggestion at the end there. But unfortunately, Kachina is competing with Navia for that slot in my team. 40% damage bonus just can't compete with Navia's quickswap damage potential.
Though, now I think on it, she would be buffing Furina as well...further testing required.
As long as she can be a hyperbloom driver she's good
She holds the new set until somebody else, who knows until when 😂.
for exploration yes
Presumably, a bit later in 4.0, we'll get a 5 star that fits a similar role while also providing more substantial team buffs and more consistency at the same buffs. Nahida comes to mind for Collei. Kinda Lynnette too but her replacements came before she released. Not really worth investing in since she doesn't need to be levelled to use the artifact set and I'll replace her soon enough.
Leak spoilers:
Totally definitely not talking about Xilonen btw.... for sure.
She's a placeholder for xilonen. Everything she does, exploration included, xilonen does better. 😂
Not a dig but i think this video is so funny. It comes across as a really, for lack of a better word, copium defense for her. She's not that great a character in any regard and will be replaced by they who shall not be named.
But on a seperate note, one thing that really stuck out to me was the "being geo is good for her and the set actually" thing because... no its not. It only really benefits geo characters and only geo characters that want to slot in other element characters. Anemo is a much better choice for support to have on it.
an anemo character would already want to use vv having to choose between vv or the new natlan one which is currently her only perk is already kind of a disadvantage while sure her being anemo might make her a " better character " i think it would make her a worse character over all ( value wise )
Actually, no, geo is actually very good for this set.
Guess what's special about geo and anemo? They HAVE to be the triggering element for reactions, they can't be auras. So if you get a crystallize shard from twirly, you're guaranteed to get the bonus
Vs, say you used any other element except anemo, you can't really guarantee that the triggering character is the one holding the set
And afaik, there's no limit to the number of elements that can be buffed by this set at once. So if you can trigger pyro, hydro, and electro crystallize at once, you'll get 40% for all three elements + geo
Anemo is the other element that this set is actually good for (for the reason above) but the problem is that VV exists. 40% res shred is actually very synergestic with this set, you'd normally want to run VV AND this set on a team rather than just one. (Ofc this alone is better than VV alone)
So you'd need to run two anemo characters if you want to run both, and anemo resonance isn't that great for combat (unless you use charged attacks a lot ig), running double geo is way better honestly.
Also geo crystallize doesn't eat up auras as easily as swirl can, so it doesn't really ruin reactions very much either, which is also a plus
@@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 geo isn't good for this though.
yes, geo and anemo can only be the trigger, but this ignores the fact that you then have to run a geo/anemo character. and even more specifically, it has to be a natlan character that is anemo or geo. no anemo yet, of course, so the only option is kachina. who provides nothing to the team aside from being able to hold the set. if she were anemo, thats CC and swirl which contribute much more.
this point about who triggers it is also weird because like... yes you can. if its not something like quicken where youre just trying to hit as fast as possible or freeze where it doesn't matter, most reactions are caused by the person you want to cause it (most notably, vape)
there's also not a limit to the number of elements you can swirl. likes of kazuha and sucrose actually make it very easy to do double swirls. most people don't do it though (aside from certain difficulties) because there's no point buffing more than 2 element in a team since only 1 or 2 people are doing the team damage.
VV is good, and a great set to use but not so good you can't forgo it ever. especially considering a lot of units have come out/are coming out with shred inherent anyway.
niether is that great, but geo resonance is nicer for combat, but it only benefits actual shielders. youre not making enough crystalizes with kachina for it to work with that, and you wouldn't have zhongli there, since youre trying to buff other elements. so youre realy stuck to specific noelle/itto comps
crystalize, especially if youre running it for buffing other elements + geo, eating away at aura's is actually a common problem. constantly talked about in the likes of double geo hu tao. also weird to say anemo would eat the aura when the whole point is swirling, which, depending on the team, is literally the fastest way to constantly apply auras (like sunfire)
kachina being geo and using this set is literally not a benefit to any team except some specific geo ones.
@@silverYolo VV can only debuff one element afaik, it's in the description iirc
Kazuha's dmg buff is the one that can buff multiple elements
It looks like you seem to think all anemo units have cc in their kit from your comment? No, not all anemo can cc (Sayu and Xianyun for example), and not all anemo necessarily buff outside of VV either.
Swirl and crystallize both eat 0.5x the elemental gauge upon hit (so they won't remove the element unless it's a strong application like Kazuha hold E)
So there's no real difference between anemo or geo in this case, they're both just set holders. You're just used to anemo being generally better than geo bc VV exists.
There's just a few differences that might matter in a few cases:
1) Swirl is more offensive than crystallize esp in AoE scenarios
2) Geo resonance is flat out better (and don't worry about going shieldless, crystallize shields are actually rather sturdy if you build EM on Kachina, plus you don't really care about her damage anyway, and Kachina(read Xilonen)+Zhong is a solid duo for a lot of hypercarries anyways, Zhongli's shield won't break)
3) Swirl does apply a stronger elemental aura than the initial cast in most cases, but that's not a very important consideration in most cases tbh, your team should be able to apply elements properly even without an anemo unit or you'll ruin reactions the moment the anemo skill runs out lol
4) anemo has the potential to ruin reactions, geo can't (like if one enemy has hydro and the others have pyro and you want pyro on the enemies, anemo can screw it up)
Geo and anemo are relatively equally good when it comes to this set, idk why you're so bent on saying that anemo is better
Also, that other thing you said. Supports don't usually trigger the main reaction of the team. If you're running a vape team, would you want a support to trigger vaporize and use up the aura? If you're running reverse vape, you'd probably like a hydro or electro or cyro support bc they don't eat up the aura. (Well frozen hides the hydro aura from all elements cryo reacts with so you'd probably only use cryo as a support if your dps is dendro but), and I'm not sure how the damage bonus works for catalyze (Someone test with Kinich to see if both electro and dendro get the bonus on Spread (not Quicken) or only dendro), so in general, only geo and anemo can reliably trigger the set to buff the right elements simply because they can't be aura elements and react with every aura except dendro.
Uhh,,, did that make sense,,,,
@@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 huh? VV can debuff multiple elements. thats quite literally the point of double swirl setups. and no, the set does not say it can't, so idk where you got that from.
of the anemo units, only 3 don't have some form of CC (sayu, xiao, and xianyun) so yes, anemo has CC in general, as well as having all of the major CC units anyway so idk what this point is trying to disprove. and nobody said anemo units needed to support to be good anyway. they just are inherently better by being anemo
both elements eat reactions, but anemo re-applies it, applies it to groups of enemies, and CCs enemies. all very quickly
there is a difference but in this statement, you actually have it reversed. a lot of you think anemo is only good because of VV, but even without VV, it would still be a great element, and better than geo, because of CC and being able to apply elements quickly/to groups of enemies. (and is also the only cleanse element that doesn't have a potential element issue)
geo resonance is better for combat, but comes with massive caveats, which are to kachina's detriment because if she won't be run in the set up that triggers it, unless its specifically for a geo dps' benefit. its also really cope to think building EM for crystalize is going to work (and also not even true, youre going to be building her DEF for her damage disregardless, and even moreso with cons for the minute buffing she can do in her own kit)
this swirl comment doesn't make sense because this is every team with every reaction, and even moreso, teams where the anemo unit is the applier have been a thing for forever and have been meta at some points (like venti/fischl or jean sunfire) and "ruining" reactions is the same for other elements too. difference being you get all the side benefits of an anemo character, and you don't even get the benefits of geo unless youre running the specific character that gives it (probably zhongli)
geo and anemo are not close on this. its just a lot of you conflate anemo to VV and forget that swirl and anemo characters do more than just shred.
idk what this point is. supports don't need to trigger the "main" reaction. kachina doesn't. just as long as they cause a reaction, its fine. this also doesn't matter for the set because you only need them to be involved in whatever element youre trying to buff. this is also weird because... this is wrong. i feel like you only have theoretical (somewhat wrong) info about some of this. the only thing close to what youre talking about is running something like cryo in hyperbloom, but that wouldn't apply to this conversation.
and for this last bit, again, this point doesn't matter. the set buffs whatever reaction is apart of it. every element could do it and do it better than geo, just so happens an anemo support would have been better as a general support instead of a geo one.
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