Stephanie disregarded Rick so much , it was almost hard to watch . It's not his fault Eric left you , married Brooke and then had kids with her . It's not Rick's fault .
Steffy and phoebe loved each other very much. I wish phoebe didn't die. If she was alive, phoebe would help her sister through the hard times she went through and help her to move past her issues with the logans
Right but that would have been to east for them they wanted to challenge steffy putting her back against the wall to become strong and smarter than ever and she was clever until they ruined her character as well
Except Phoebe didn't have that "i want it and I want it right NOW" streak, or the "I need everyone to hand me the world on a platter" entitlement that Hope used to have. I see less of that in her these days, which is great character development and I'm glad she's grown up, a little bit, at least.
I wonder if they killed off beautiful Pheobe so Hopeless could be insterted in her place with her HFTF crap later on, I wish they hadn't killed Pheobe off she was awsome,miss her. Would have been awsome to have seen the Forrestor sisters and family take on the Hogan clan and keep them in check.
@Sara Zimmermann First of all hello. Then, if you read the comment correctly, I never said that the Forresters were the best. Of course, all without exception are except examples. I'm just saying that the Logans judge others when they are no better. Everyone takes advantage at one time or another, whether they manipulate, cheat, betray or lie. In my comment, it says that Phoebe is missing from Ridge’s first family, that’s undeniable. The two actresses who play Steffy and Phoebe respectively have an incredible chemistry and it is really a shame that the character of Phoebe has died. In any case, no need to be disagreeable in your comment, I respect your opinion but respect mine if you like. After all this is just fiction. good continuation.
@nadine müller There, I am not talking about the beginning but now. The Logan clan, either intentionally or unintentionally, has not stopped pushing Ridge's children or others (Sally, Thomas, Steffy, Quinn, Shauna and Katie) to their limits. I put Katie in the lot because "Brooke to kiss Bill again while his sister is in a relationship with Bill". I will not contradict you, they are not more innocent than the others. However, now finally for almost a year, the Logan clan is unleashed on the children of Ridge and Taylor and the others. No one is perfect, but now it's the Forresters' turn to be in the sights of Spencer (Bill) and Logan (Hope and Brooke).
@Sara Zimmermann I know but I miss the twins together because the Logans are exposed like saints and confront Steffy for her group mistakes (Brooke and Hope)
Phoebe was so delusional. How Rick still breaking her heart after she dumped him? That doesn't make any sense. Rick kissed Steffy to get at Ridge had nothing to do with her.
@@sherell273 How am I supposed to believe that? I mean, think of what Phoebe who deeply cares about him. He should've never cheat on her with Ashley, then Phoebe's mum and her sister. Phoebe has every right to loathe Rick for what he was done deliberately, unable to hear Phoebe's words and refuse to say while saying sorry though it wasn't good enough, before a car crash and then wants Ridge out of Brooke's life. Look I know you don't want to believe me, but it's true.
@@DD31595 It is true what I stated. Ridge badged and bullied Rick because his was dating Phoebe and is the reason she ended her relationship with him. Rick never hurt nor cheated on Phoebe during their relationship way before he was involved with Ashley and Taylor. He did loved and was committed to her until she made it perfectly clear their relationship was over, twice. Also it clearly shows Phoebe wasn't mature enough for a relationship and commitment. I'm just stating facts. But at the end, your entitle to your own opinion and perspective.
@Sara Zimmermann But Phoebe made it perfectly clear to Rick that their relationship was over for the first time, thanks to Ridge's interference. Rick took that seriously and respectfully accepted her decision, and moved on. After that Rick got involved with Ashley. Rick never cheated on her with Ashley while he was with Phoebe. The fact is Phoebe was not mature enough for a relationship. Did it cross her mind instead of breakup with him to tell him take their relationship for break? No!
@@RealTakerslady That conversation with Stephanie was a foreshadowing of what was to come. Stephanie was right at some point you will have to choose your husband above all.
So in Stephanie's mind, the phrase "forsaking all others" doesn't mean staying faithful to your spouse, it means putting them above your children? Wow!
KKL and Ronn Moss definitely had onscreen chemistry for their characters. I don't see it with Thorsten Kaye as Ridge in the new episodes.
Definitely not, even some kissing scenes are awkward with TK..
Stephanie, you have never put Eric before Ridge.
Stephanie disregarded Rick so much , it was almost hard to watch . It's not his fault Eric left you , married Brooke and then had kids with her . It's not Rick's fault .
Stephanie was a trip period. Ridge is just as bad always wanting his way or he's done with you.
Phoebe and Steffy have a strong sister bond i wish Phoebe didn't killed off and Phoebe could have been they for Steffy and Thomas
I would have traded Phoebe for Thomas in a heartbeat.
Steffy and phoebe loved each other very much. I wish phoebe didn't die. If she was alive, phoebe would help her sister through the hard times she went through and help her to move past her issues with the logans
Right but that would have been to east for them they wanted to challenge steffy putting her back against the wall to become strong and smarter than ever and she was clever until they ruined her character as well
@@jaynesemcfarland luckily they saw JMWS potential and allowed steffi to evolve into the strong smart powerhouse shes become
Steffy is the reason Phoebe died
The start of the new writer disasters; killing off Pheobe
That’s strange Stephanie saying that when she puts Ridge above all others
Phoebe had to go because she was too much competition for an older Hope as they had similar traits
Phoebe and Steffy vs Hope would have been an amazing storyline, especially if they had Steffy or Phoebe betray the other after lol
I agree, Hope and Phoebe, are exactly, the same character.They were written, the same
Except Phoebe didn't have that "i want it and I want it right NOW" streak, or the "I need everyone to hand me the world on a platter" entitlement that Hope used to have.
I see less of that in her these days, which is great character development and I'm glad she's grown up, a little bit, at least.
They could have kept Hope younger for many years if they kept Phoebe. I liked Phoebe more than Steffy.
This two are comfortable with each other
Too comfortable than most real couples we know, right ?
steffi lost phoebe it sent her spinning for so long.... i dont think she really stopped til kelly was born and she found finn
Stephanie she is always putting Eric before Ridge ! Good for her !
He talking about Brooke like she a Angel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She is to him, he loves her
Why is it that what I’m anxious to see again, you don’t put the episode in ..
Ok so why Brooke is apart of that company
I wonder if they killed off beautiful Pheobe so Hopeless could be insterted in her place with her HFTF crap later on, I wish they hadn't killed Pheobe off she was awsome,miss her.
Would have been awsome to have seen the Forrestor sisters and family take on the Hogan clan and keep them in check.
Rick never hurt Phoebe. Period! WFT!
Phoebe caused the accident being reckless hitting Rick while he was driving and Rick was lucky he wasn't killed.
he was driving the car that makes him at least partially responsible for the accident
@@crisvanfan She was beating on Rick while he was driving so to me that caused the accident.
Rick is obsessed with ridge kla
Phoebe is so beautiful. Pure perfection wish she didnt die . Liam and her would of made the cutest couple instead of stuffy
You go Brooke
I miss her two too much. phoebe returns to be with kelly, douglas, thomas and steffy against the logan clan which judges and blames the others
@Sara Zimmermann First of all hello. Then, if you read the comment correctly, I never said that the Forresters were the best. Of course, all without exception are except examples. I'm just saying that the Logans judge others when they are no better. Everyone takes advantage at one time or another, whether they manipulate, cheat, betray or lie. In my comment, it says that Phoebe is missing from Ridge’s first family, that’s undeniable. The two actresses who play Steffy and Phoebe respectively have an incredible chemistry and it is really a shame that the character of Phoebe has died. In any case, no need to be disagreeable in your comment, I respect your opinion but respect mine if you like. After all this is just fiction. good continuation.
@nadine müller There, I am not talking about the beginning but now. The Logan clan, either intentionally or unintentionally, has not stopped pushing Ridge's children or others (Sally, Thomas, Steffy, Quinn, Shauna and Katie) to their limits. I put Katie in the lot because "Brooke to kiss Bill again while his sister is in a relationship with Bill". I will not contradict you, they are not more innocent than the others. However, now finally for almost a year, the Logan clan is unleashed on the children of Ridge and Taylor and the others. No one is perfect, but now it's the Forresters' turn to be in the sights of Spencer (Bill) and Logan (Hope and Brooke).
@Sara Zimmermann
I know but I miss the twins together because the Logans are exposed like saints and confront Steffy for her group mistakes (Brooke and Hope)
imagine Steffy and Phoebe vs Brooke, Donna and Katie. Forrester sisters vs logans sisters. That would be a good storyline too. Don't you think?
@@oliviankufulu1050 oh yeah, but
Katie isn't mean when she isn't literally following Donna and Brooke against Steffy or the Forresters.
Phoebe was so delusional. How Rick still breaking her heart after she dumped him? That doesn't make any sense. Rick kissed Steffy to get at Ridge had nothing to do with her.
No, I'm afraid she's right about what Rick was capable of.
@@DD31595 Actually, Phoebe is wrong. Rick hated Ridge for came between his relationships with Phoebe.
@@sherell273 How am I supposed to believe that? I mean, think of what Phoebe who deeply cares about him. He should've never cheat on her with Ashley, then Phoebe's mum and her sister. Phoebe has every right to loathe Rick for what he was done deliberately, unable to hear Phoebe's words and refuse to say while saying sorry though it wasn't good enough, before a car crash and then wants Ridge out of Brooke's life. Look I know you don't want to believe me, but it's true.
@@DD31595 It is true what I stated. Ridge badged and bullied Rick because his was dating Phoebe and is the reason she ended her relationship with him. Rick never hurt nor cheated on Phoebe during their relationship way before he was involved with Ashley and Taylor. He did loved and was committed to her until she made it perfectly clear their relationship was over, twice. Also it clearly shows Phoebe wasn't mature enough for a relationship and commitment. I'm just stating facts. But at the end, your entitle to your own opinion and perspective.
@Sara Zimmermann But Phoebe made it perfectly clear to Rick that their relationship was over for the first time, thanks to Ridge's interference. Rick took that seriously and respectfully accepted her decision, and moved on. After that Rick got involved with Ashley. Rick never cheated on her with Ashley while he was with Phoebe. The fact is Phoebe was not mature enough for a relationship. Did it cross her mind instead of breakup with him to tell him take their relationship for break? No!
Exactly, Brooke should never fully side with a man over her son
Well if she can't do that then she shouldn't be marrying Ridge. Plain and simple.
RealTalk1411 It makes her a good mother
@@RealTakerslady Well if being a good mother is more important then she shouldn't be marrying Ridge. Simple as that.
RealTalk1411 Ridge was being unreasonable and eventually came around and they still got married. Period.
@@RealTakerslady That conversation with Stephanie was a foreshadowing of what was to come. Stephanie was right at some point you will have to choose your husband above all.
Who owns FC at this time? Ownership changes so often I can’t keep up!
10:10 why is brooke not talking about ridge like that when he is around? Its always behind his back..
WISH THEY HAD MOTR SCENES WITH BOTH TWINS
Identical twins, one's a blonde and the other is a brunette. I don't get it!
They change the story line for Phoebe and steffy they are fraternal twins
@@moniquedaughtry No they're identical twins. They mentioned that they were earlier on in the series.
@@MaZaKeRaL they were... but it got changed when JMW was cast.. they were changed to fraternal
@@crisvanfan your right it did I swear people need to do the freak homework!!
Not all twins are identical in real life 😳😄
You sided with your over your own husband too many times Stephen
You mean "Stephanie?" Not Stephen.
So in Stephanie's mind, the phrase "forsaking all others" doesn't mean staying faithful to your spouse, it means putting them above your children? Wow!