great video. first I've ever heard or seen about kicking in the dry wall as a step for high mounted windows. won't forget that one. keep the videos comin man.
Dale, Keep up the great videos. Our department regularly uses your videos for training ideas and how to improve certain skills. Being a combination fire department, your videos make for perfect weekly training exercises and give a good understanding of basic and advanced skills that all firefighters should work on regularly. Because of many of your videos and your skills our department as a whole is improving on mask up times, use of tools, training props, and PRDs. Not everyone has the time to go to classes, training drills etc. so your videos are perfect. It leads to a better department and safer community through more training and open discussion. Ed Kennedy Asst Fire Chief Kure Beach Fire Dept, NC
Thanks Ed- I appreciate your feed back and kind words! It is always nice to hear when FFs and/or FDs find useful info in the videos or at least get inspired to train and improve their skill sets. Wishing you continued success in your organization brother!
6:20 yes you can wrap the center frame. But that window doesn't have a center frame. That Andersen casement window pair has a *mullion* which is a thin piece of pine and they *tend to rot at the bottom joint* and this is exactly where your rope is loading. They can break suddenly and cleanly right there. It pays to know your building materials.
Have any tips for solid brick homes. We have a few that only have a thin layer of plaster overtop the brick so breaching the wall quickly isn't easy. Most of them do have projecting sills but I'm thing for a secondary option. I was thinking of breaching the floor the same way as the wall or using an interior wall.
Hi Dale, I'm an Italian Firefighter, I was studying the technique to run away from the flaming flats coming out of the windows. I find it very interesting, but in Italy the walls of the rooms are built in bricks and therefore this technique is almost impossible to apply. It could be solved by putting a staircase (used as a point of attack) in contrast to the finest, and with a dynamic rope make a half boat knot and modulate the downhill ....
Ciao Umberto - Grazie per il tuo commento Fratello! I sistemi di scappamento dei vigili del fuoco hanno progressivamente avuto un po 'di tempo negli anni. Avere un sistema con un Anchor Hook Escape risolve i problemi che hai con il tuo tipo di costruzione. Ho caricato una serie di video su Firefighter Escape Systems, chiamata anche VRS (Versatile Rescue Sytems). Puoi guardarli andando sul mio canale RUclips - Dovrebbero darti qualche ulteriore conoscenza.
Hey, I'm happy to hear you, I saw your videos and I found them very interesting. It's certainly important to type typology. In Italy it is difficult to find wooden houses, only in some regions of the North near the Alps. They find, for example, the fireplaces of chimneys in the fireplaces, where we do not have a city. Now, after 25 years of service, I have become an instructor, and I work in the only fire brigade school in Italy where we train recruits, (If you want I can give you links to get an idea)
Can I escape from a concrete building in the same way? For example, is it possible to escape from an apartment by hooking a wall through a window in the same way? In many videos I only saw samples from the wooden structure. However, there are many apartments made of concrete in the country where I live. I want to know how to escape in this case.
Newer systems have anchor hooks - That you can also purchase individually and add to your system. An anchor hook gives you the option of anchoring right on the window sill when all other anchroing options are not available or you wouldn't have time to implement them.
Hey quick question. in a casement window why take out both windows? If you are in an emergency situation and need out ASAP taking out both lengthens your exposure to the hazards or dangers you are escaping. I like your video excellent learning BTW
muy interesante la charla hay que tenerle respeto al fuego hace un mes en la ciudad de valparaiso chile se quemaron 800 casas a puerta serrada el viento fue lo peor ayudo mucho al fuego ,murieron ancianos invalidos y lo peor de todos murieron muchas mascotas ,lo que me gusta de ustedes los bomberos son sus implementos que tienen para atacar el fuego ,todo de ultima generación ,te felicito Dale y además pareces actor de cine ,saludos !!!
Niklas Brazie - There are actually 3 hook placement orientations: Flat (which I prefer) 45 degree angle and vertical - How you place the hook is based a 2 main factors: The type of hook you have and the construction features/presentations of the window frame, sill an neighboring wall face. I currently carry the CMC LEVR system with a Flashlite anchor hook and I by far prefer using the anchor flat on the sill/window frame - However I practice all 3 anchor orientation methods. Thanks for your question! Check out my RUclips channel for more videos on Escape/VRS (Versatile Rescue Systems)
We just had rit and mayday training tonight. Quick question, what is the system you have with you that allows you propel out of the window. I'm interested in adding that to my gear but don't know what all of it is.
I currently carry 40 feet of Sterling FireTech Technora rope, a CMC 2nd generation Escape Artist DCD, CMC Flash Lite Anchor Hook and 2 aluminum SMC screw lock Carabiners. Another good DCD is the Sterling F4 - What you purchase and carry depends on how you intend to carry, store and deploy your system. They're called PES/PSS - Personal Escape or Safety Systems, but the fact that they can be used to rescue fellow FFs or civilians I like to refer to them as a VRS (Versatile Rescue System)
@@A_F_Makes Take a look at these videos: ruclips.net/video/h0-ppyAjQdM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/KapUDnfi8YQ/видео.html - Which show how the new style Anchor Hooks can be used for both self rescue as well as rescuing a trapped victim - Even on concrete buildings
I have a problem of being nervous about running out of air and possibly bailing out or not being able to see anything or backing out due too air cosumption and running low too deep into a building and not know where to go
It can happen but is EASILY avoided if you monitor your air supply - Every time you change a room, floor or tactic, check your air and prompt your partners to do the same. Besides this keep track of secondary means of egress, such as windows, doors, balconies or roofs that you could exit onto if conditions go south. Finally remember this; Courage is not the absence of Fear - It's the ability to move beyond your fears in order to serve and fulfill a higher purpose. That's why we run in while others run out.
Yes it EASILY would hold your weight - I came up with this technique in the late 1990's and have tested it literally hundreds of times on numerous acquired structures and on a variety of materials; from lath and plaster, to sheet rock/drywall, wood paneling to old fiber board (which is not much thicker than a piece of card board. We've done testing with 3-4 FFs hanging from 1 tool in the wall and the anchor held. If you have integrity of the wall around the head of the tool this method is insanely strong - Try it out for yourself on the next vacant/acquired structure you get and YOU WILL be a believer. Regardless I still always recommend having an anchor hook at the end of your system as you may be presented with a building and construction features that won't allow this technique - After all nothing is fail safe.
you need to remove the window in order to fit thru is with all that gear. trying to figure out how to open a window with smoke flames and gloves etc wouldn't be practical. FF= paid demolition crew and lock smiths cause there isn't much they cant get thru or have a tool or key for. Ever want to secure something then watch how FF get into buildings then work from there
I was thinking the same thing.. I perceived the video as a "how to escape your home in case of a fire" and I feel like I know how to open my windows quicker than to demolish them, and they're more than large enough for me to fit through (I don't have all that gear, of course). But I probably misunderstood the purpose of the video. Interesting watch, especially the ad nchoring. My walls are concrete though, so I guess I'd have to anchor around the balcony railing and hope it's sturdy enough.
Understandable - After I came up with the "Tool in the Wall" technique I've been very fortunate to practice it countless time on numerous acquired structures with all sorts of interior (and exterior) sheathing - From drywall/sheetrock to lath/plaster to paneling and evening compressed fiberboard (basically dense cardboard). This experience along with a lot of testing has given me the confidence on when and when I can not trust it. In the end is just one more option.
Nope and we always carry some type of hoseline. Many of the bailouts the crews in the states have are because they often don't all have charged hoselines and when conditions change they have very little defence.
This might be one of the best videos I've seen on youtube. Epic.
great video. first I've ever heard or seen about kicking in the dry wall as a step for high mounted windows. won't forget that one. keep the videos comin man.
Dale,
Keep up the great videos. Our department regularly uses your videos for training ideas and how to improve certain skills. Being a combination fire department, your videos make for perfect weekly training exercises and give a good understanding of basic and advanced skills that all firefighters should work on regularly. Because of many of your videos and your skills our department as a whole is improving on mask up times, use of tools, training props, and PRDs. Not everyone has the time to go to classes, training drills etc. so your videos are perfect. It leads to a better department and safer community through more training and open discussion.
Ed Kennedy
Asst Fire Chief
Kure Beach Fire Dept, NC
Thanks Ed- I appreciate your feed back and kind words! It is always nice to hear when FFs and/or FDs find useful info in the videos or at least get inspired to train and improve their skill sets. Wishing you continued success in your organization brother!
DALE G. PEKEL What equipment do you use for your personal escape system?
Awesome techniques I haven’t even heard of before. Can’t wait to try this out!
6:20 yes you can wrap the center frame. But that window doesn't have a center frame. That Andersen casement window pair has a *mullion* which is a thin piece of pine and they *tend to rot at the bottom joint* and this is exactly where your rope is loading. They can break suddenly and cleanly right there. It pays to know your building materials.
As a Dutch guy I'm shook that these walls are so weak you can just punch the handle of an axe through them
These are drywalls not cement walls bud, they are great to incorporate insulation.
@@kianmarcial8884 Also great to punch through
LOL YOU'RE DUTCH!
More people should do this sort of videos, it's always refreshing :)
great and wonderful tips .. thank you ... greetings from Colombia
Very good! I don't think I've ever seen that style of anchor used before!
If you have a double hung window that has tilt to way, you can tilt in and take out both sashes quick and easy
Awesome video!
I have a gut belt that I wear. I notice you do as well. Is the belt alone substantial for quick egress?
I never though of putting a tool in the drywall!
Have any tips for solid brick homes. We have a few that only have a thin layer of plaster overtop the brick so breaching the wall quickly isn't easy. Most of them do have projecting sills but I'm thing for a secondary option. I was thinking of breaching the floor the same way as the wall or using an interior wall.
Do a skylight escape.
Hi Dale, I'm an Italian Firefighter, I was studying the technique to run away from the flaming flats coming out of the windows. I find it very interesting, but in Italy the walls of the rooms are built in bricks and therefore this technique is almost impossible to apply. It could be solved by putting a staircase (used as a point of attack) in contrast to the finest, and with a dynamic rope make a half boat knot and modulate the downhill ....
Ciao Umberto - Grazie per il tuo commento Fratello! I sistemi di scappamento dei vigili del fuoco hanno progressivamente avuto un po 'di tempo negli anni. Avere un sistema con un Anchor Hook Escape risolve i problemi che hai con il tuo tipo di costruzione. Ho caricato una serie di video su Firefighter Escape Systems, chiamata anche VRS (Versatile Rescue Sytems). Puoi guardarli andando sul mio canale RUclips - Dovrebbero darti qualche ulteriore conoscenza.
Hey, I'm happy to hear you, I saw your videos and I found them very interesting. It's certainly important to type typology. In Italy it is difficult to find wooden houses, only in some regions of the North near the Alps. They find, for example, the fireplaces of chimneys in the fireplaces, where we do not have a city. Now, after 25 years of service, I have become an instructor, and I work in the only fire brigade school in Italy where we train recruits, (If you want I can give you links to get an idea)
That would be great Umberto, please go ahead and send the links.
DALE G. PEKEL presto ti invieró i link che mi hai chiesto,
In training have you ever had the hold it has in the wall fail?
possible only in buildings with shit windows and doors :P
Ok i understand. Thx for reply.
Can I escape from a concrete building in the same way? For example, is it possible to escape from an apartment by hooking a wall through a window in the same way? In many videos I only saw samples from the wooden structure. However, there are many apartments made of concrete in the country where I live. I want to know how to escape in this case.
Newer systems have anchor hooks - That you can also purchase individually and add to your system. An anchor hook gives you the option of anchoring right on the window sill when all other anchroing options are not available or you wouldn't have time to implement them.
Dale, I'm looking to get an escape system, have any words on the FESH hook?
Hey quick question. in a casement window why take out both windows? If you are in an emergency situation and need out ASAP taking out both lengthens your exposure to the hazards or dangers you are escaping. I like your video excellent learning BTW
muy interesante la charla hay que tenerle respeto al fuego hace un mes en la ciudad de valparaiso chile se quemaron 800 casas a puerta serrada el viento fue lo peor ayudo mucho al fuego ,murieron ancianos invalidos y lo peor de todos murieron muchas mascotas ,lo que me gusta de ustedes los bomberos son sus implementos que tienen para atacar el fuego ,todo de ultima generación ,te felicito Dale y además pareces actor de cine ,saludos !!!
Great video, what do you guys use for an integrated harness? Is there a already made system that you prefer over another?
Hey there dale I love your videos you been making any more
Thanks Brendan! - Nothing too recent as things have been busy, but hopefully we'll get back to uploading some new material in the future.
Does it matter if the bailout hook faces down or to the side?
Niklas Brazie - There are actually 3 hook placement orientations: Flat (which I prefer) 45 degree angle and vertical - How you place the hook is based a 2 main factors: The type of hook you have and the construction features/presentations of the window frame, sill an neighboring wall face. I currently carry the CMC LEVR system with a Flashlite anchor hook and I by far prefer using the anchor flat on the sill/window frame - However I practice all 3 anchor orientation methods. Thanks for your question! Check out my RUclips channel for more videos on Escape/VRS (Versatile Rescue Systems)
What fire co. Are you at.
We just had rit and mayday training tonight. Quick question, what is the system you have with you that allows you propel out of the window. I'm interested in adding that to my gear but don't know what all of it is.
I currently carry 40 feet of Sterling FireTech Technora rope, a CMC 2nd generation Escape Artist DCD, CMC Flash Lite Anchor Hook and 2 aluminum SMC screw lock Carabiners. Another good DCD is the Sterling F4 - What you purchase and carry depends on how you intend to carry, store and deploy your system. They're called PES/PSS - Personal Escape or Safety Systems, but the fact that they can be used to rescue fellow FFs or civilians I like to refer to them as a VRS (Versatile Rescue System)
Thanks for video, but what about flat(apartment) escaping?
What do you mean about a "Flat" apartment
@@DALEGPEKEL thanks for answer. I wanted to ask about the evacuation of the city apartment(multi-storey building) with concrete(brick) walls.
@@A_F_Makes Take a look at these videos: ruclips.net/video/h0-ppyAjQdM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/KapUDnfi8YQ/видео.html - Which show how the new style Anchor Hooks can be used for both self rescue as well as rescuing a trapped victim - Even on concrete buildings
city fire department dont supply you with that stuff?
What are you using as the harness??
See these 5 videos: ruclips.net/video/CTSeIFm-W3I/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/nuOm5OWKZFk/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/aOBGDpYOI-w/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/l1EIv5MQSHI/видео.html - ruclips.net/video/r7OoDhfDo6U/видео.html
Are the walls in American houses made of cardboard?
I have a problem of being nervous about running out of air and possibly bailing out or not being able to see anything or backing out due too air cosumption and running low too deep into a building and not know where to go
It can happen but is EASILY avoided if you monitor your air supply - Every time you change a room, floor or tactic, check your air and prompt your partners to do the same. Besides this keep track of secondary means of egress, such as windows, doors, balconies or roofs that you could exit onto if conditions go south. Finally remember this; Courage is not the absence of Fear - It's the ability to move beyond your fears in order to serve and fulfill a higher purpose. That's why we run in while others run out.
DALE G. PEKEL thank you for the advice you really cleared things up for me. I am 17 going into fire 1
What sort of turnround pressure do you guys use as your safety margin?
Nice anchor technique. But in Germany we almost have Stone walls, so it wouldn't be possible to ram the axe into it:/
Thanks Erwin - You guys would want to use a system with an Escape Anchor Hook. This video reviews one: ruclips.net/video/2fmNBIkueSo/видео.html
DALE G. PEKEL Thanks!
thank you i wanna be a futer firefighter i own a scott 4.5 and ima do this but im not gonna break the window my windows small tho lol
Would shoving an axe into the wall sheet rock like that support a 230lb man + gear? I dont think sooooooo
Yes it EASILY would hold your weight - I came up with this technique in the late 1990's and have tested it literally hundreds of times on numerous acquired structures and on a variety of materials; from lath and plaster, to sheet rock/drywall, wood paneling to old fiber board (which is not much thicker than a piece of card board. We've done testing with 3-4 FFs hanging from 1 tool in the wall and the anchor held. If you have integrity of the wall around the head of the tool this method is insanely strong - Try it out for yourself on the next vacant/acquired structure you get and YOU WILL be a believer. Regardless I still always recommend having an anchor hook at the end of your system as you may be presented with a building and construction features that won't allow this technique - After all nothing is fail safe.
Yes, it will.
I never knew drywall was so strong.
Im not trying to be a smartass but wouldnt it be easier to just Open thé window instead off smashing thé glas and removing thé frame?
you need to remove the window in order to fit thru is with all that gear. trying to figure out how to open a window with smoke flames and gloves etc wouldn't be practical. FF= paid demolition crew and lock smiths cause there isn't much they cant get thru or have a tool or key for. Ever want to secure something then watch how FF get into buildings then work from there
I was thinking the same thing.. I perceived the video as a "how to escape your home in case of a fire" and I feel like I know how to open my windows quicker than to demolish them, and they're more than large enough for me to fit through (I don't have all that gear, of course).
But I probably misunderstood the purpose of the video.
Interesting watch, especially the ad nchoring. My walls are concrete though, so I guess I'd have to anchor around the balcony railing and hope it's sturdy enough.
@ntfd125 thinking*
Dale,
Olla Rambo !!
Anyone know that actual number of times a bailout system has been used in real world?
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no se ingles pero entendí clarito :)
okien w polsce by nie wywalił, tak samo dziury w ścianie też by nie zrobił.
Try it on europe :D
I just don't have that much faith in sheet rock
Understandable - After I came up with the "Tool in the Wall" technique I've been very fortunate to practice it countless time on numerous acquired structures with all sorts of interior (and exterior) sheathing - From drywall/sheetrock to lath/plaster to paneling and evening compressed fiberboard (basically dense cardboard). This experience along with a lot of testing has given me the confidence on when and when I can not trust it. In the end is just one more option.
Hulk smash.
I think drywalls are more an american thing, unfortunately that wouldn’t work in the eu
Nope and we always carry some type of hoseline. Many of the bailouts the crews in the states have are because they often don't all have charged hoselines and when conditions change they have very little defence.
In conclusion, American houses are made of paper
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Lel its something completely different to German firefighting😅
TIL buildings in USA are made from cardboard
Wtf are american houses usually this weak? The walls are like cardboard
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