People saying “but you can shoot over it, tall guards will bully it, you have to hide it” and maybe there’s some validity. But these builds are also going to be the first ones down the court, for the center to chuck a Hail Mary to, shooting with 96 3 in the corner for free. If you have a dominant rebounding and passing center, the combo of this build with it in the Rec, will really frustrate people
Not only that, I’ve been playing and trying to perfect my 5’9 PG. I’m a fantastic perimeter defender and have been for years. I was very worried about the 5’9 on defence but I have worked at it and 96 on per d and steal with the 86 agility to match for HOF Challenger and On Ball Menace works pretty well. Of course, I’m still 5’9 and I’ve been playing Cade who is 6’6, the usual height of last year so I still do get shot over and inside, while I can still get in the way and get a few plucks, he does still score over and bully me sometimes
@@jacobwilkie241 I didn’t create the build, but I did test it with the 92 perimeter and 99 steal. I do notice you just get moved out of the way when someone like Luka just walks in to you. But as mentioned, you also are the fastest one on the court and able to get to a spot and get it off just as easy. The defense seems to be a “feel good” stat where you don’t feel like you have none at least
Franchise, I have made builds 6’4 down to 5’9 trying to make near the same build and while you may see not much change, I do. At 5’9, you can literally do everything outside of rebounding. I made a build that gets 3 HOF badges in shooting, 2 in passing, every defensive badge but Pick Dodger on the perimeter and both steal badges. Not to mention that I still get a 75 dunk as well. At even 5’10, I lose at least 2 HOF badges if not more. 6’3, that’s near about 5. Maybe I get a higher dunk but the fact that dunking isn’t as OP as last year makes it kinda irrelevant. The middy so far from what I’ve donee we is the easiest shot to get to
This is all just assuming that 6'4" people can't just shoot over you. Also assuming that mini marksman badge is actually strong. Feels like Bully all over again where in theory it's good but in practice trash.
If you go for all the cap breakers, you can make it with 94 Layup/94 Three/94 Handle/91 SWB/92 Perimeter/99 Steal….You can get 4 99s with all legend badges and use a max + 1 for legend lighting launch. 5’9/6’1 WS/Max Weight. Put your strength to max for certain badges, especially immovable enforcer. You won’t have any dunk but who needs dunk with a 99 layup.
Those small builds can’t contest shots very well. For as many 90 plus attributes as it has, It’s actually a very limited build. I can see the value in a 5v5 system but it’s really a liability for the common 2k player.
It’s really gonna be interesting to see how well they really defend. Obviously they won’t contest and I don’t think even legend interceptor will save them with 6ft wingspan. I’m going 6’3-6’6 but i hope I don’t get clamped by mf’ing earl boykins
This build is probably only going to be used in super sweaty situations. Because a lock with higher strength and steal could cause some problems really easily
@@LeCaleb i’ve played about 12 park games and it’s been nice. i’m still learning my timing on the jumpshot and i only have like 2 silver badges but it’s been consistent. i only upgraded my layup. i got it to 81 so i can get silver layup badges and trae young layup package
@@myMattressFirm yeah bro I’m trying to decide if I should not upgrade driving dunk and just use layups so I can use those points towards something else, but I’m not sure if they’re op or not this year
All I’m going to say is go watch Tyceno clips for 2k25! He is definitely playing on a 5”9 build and cooking! This build is giving play shot on steroids vibes!! Also if you know how to play defense you should be causing problems out there! The build has strength and defense! 90 percent of 2k players have no strength and no passing! This build might be it!!
Lower the steal because plucks are dead this year anyway and you don't need 96 for lane steals if you reading it right and bump perim D to 97. I feel like that's the only way these guards won't get absolutely sprayed on.
@@alphawolfsrs3802 huh? People always complain that they need to nerf steals... Are you saying the community is going to spam that steals need to be buffed now?
@@compdogg94 no the opposite. People gonna complain so there gonna nerf steals overall so in order to get any lane or on ball steals you going to need it as really high steal. Or there gonna buff unpluck. Bum steals will never go away. There are only three options. Unpluck buff where guards just dribble through everyone or nerf on steals overall all. Or three both. People are gonna spam steal regardless.
@@alphawolfsrs3802 they're not changing anything lol... They're only going to change something if the community spams them with complaints and there hasn't been nearly enough people whining about pluck steals or lane steals yet for them to change anything.
@@compdogg94 they did in 2k24 and the steals were perfect. They always change something. Its 2k, they can never leave the game alone. 2k is always tweaking something
Hopefully I run into LOTS of this build gimme the free wins :) Maybe its viable on 5s but anything else no shot that steal wont protect you like u think with t-rex arms.
@@AstuteExxy Who said anything about defending the paint why are commenting to talk shit ? I play park and pro-am and this build is getting bullied because people usually have taller guards and it's really difficult to defend against them.
I’ve experimented with 97 for Legend Dimer and HOF Bail Out and 95 for HOF Dimer and Gold Bail Out. I feel no difference there but I am a passer. I’m using 95 this year and no less than 92 for HOF Dimer all year.
Bruh yall already talking about playing zone?? Are yall this bad? The court is wider and u can put per D and agility up to play some actual defense yall dont gotta cheese for wins on this years game. Cmon bro koza made a build already locking up small guards so there's no excuse to be playing zone on this year's game unless yall wanna cheese for wins bcuz yall not good and this goes for all of yall who play zone
Man.... I'm praying 🙏 that interior D, perimeter D and agility works correctly and doesn't get patched cause damn.....Us locks and rims gone need some help 😅😅
Great. I hit consistently with an 86 mid. Granted I have a 96 three but in test, 86 makes me hit very well. Especially out of a go to shot. That Steph go to is so easy to time
If you’re close enough and interceptor high enough., the 5’9 height won’t hurt you as much cause the interceptor will give you a good animation regardless
People saying “but you can shoot over it, tall guards will bully it, you have to hide it” and maybe there’s some validity. But these builds are also going to be the first ones down the court, for the center to chuck a Hail Mary to, shooting with 96 3 in the corner for free. If you have a dominant rebounding and passing center, the combo of this build with it in the Rec, will really frustrate people
Not only that, I’ve been playing and trying to perfect my 5’9 PG. I’m a fantastic perimeter defender and have been for years. I was very worried about the 5’9 on defence but I have worked at it and 96 on per d and steal with the 86 agility to match for HOF Challenger and On Ball Menace works pretty well. Of course, I’m still 5’9 and I’ve been playing Cade who is 6’6, the usual height of last year so I still do get shot over and inside, while I can still get in the way and get a few plucks, he does still score over and bully me sometimes
@@jacobwilkie241 I didn’t create the build, but I did test it with the 92 perimeter and 99 steal. I do notice you just get moved out of the way when someone like Luka just walks in to you. But as mentioned, you also are the fastest one on the court and able to get to a spot and get it off just as easy. The defense seems to be a “feel good” stat where you don’t feel like you have none at least
@@jacobwilkie241 the difference between 5’9 & 6’3 isn’t very noticeable
Franchise, I have made builds 6’4 down to 5’9 trying to make near the same build and while you may see not much change, I do. At 5’9, you can literally do everything outside of rebounding. I made a build that gets 3 HOF badges in shooting, 2 in passing, every defensive badge but Pick Dodger on the perimeter and both steal badges. Not to mention that I still get a 75 dunk as well. At even 5’10, I lose at least 2 HOF badges if not more. 6’3, that’s near about 5. Maybe I get a higher dunk but the fact that dunking isn’t as OP as last year makes it kinda irrelevant. The middy so far from what I’ve donee we is the easiest shot to get to
LakerFan, loving the consistent uploads, keep it going
Had it in mind already. Made it & tweaked it. Devious.
This is all just assuming that 6'4" people can't just shoot over you. Also assuming that mini marksman badge is actually strong. Feels like Bully all over again where in theory it's good but in practice trash.
If you go for all the cap breakers, you can make it with 94 Layup/94 Three/94 Handle/91 SWB/92 Perimeter/99 Steal….You can get 4 99s with all legend badges and use a max + 1 for legend lighting launch. 5’9/6’1 WS/Max Weight. Put your strength to max for certain badges, especially immovable enforcer. You won’t have any dunk but who needs dunk with a 99 layup.
He's baiting you slower kids please make a 5,9 build you WILL get cooked
Those small builds can’t contest shots very well. For as many 90 plus attributes as it has, It’s actually a very limited build. I can see the value in a 5v5 system but it’s really a liability for the common 2k player.
Yessir bring out them 5'9 to rec... this year gon be lovely fr
Tbh 5 9s are gonna be great for rec, easy to hide them in the defense
@@SideLineStarbruh if they made the game right imma abuse u as a lock in that corner
@@SideLineStarnever mind didn’t see the defense wtf
@@SideLineStar crazy how you gotta hide a "comp" build. Can't wait to face these
It’s really gonna be interesting to see how well they really defend. Obviously they won’t contest and I don’t think even legend interceptor will save them with 6ft wingspan. I’m going 6’3-6’6 but i hope I don’t get clamped by mf’ing earl boykins
Is 5'10-6'2 viable also or either 6'3 or 5'9 builds ?
Is dunking good this year? Do I get 89 driving dunk or just go for layups
@@LeCaleb it's good
This build is probably only going to be used in super sweaty situations. Because a lock with higher strength and steal could cause some problems really easily
What pass animation you gonna run with 85 attribute?
Can you make a video on a 2 way point forward? I think those are the refutation to the small guards
JUST MADE MY 5'9 GONE CRAZY💪🏾💪🏾🔥
Yo bro lmk how it goes im tryna decide if I should make one
@@ErikSamuelsen-gd5lpI’d wait bruh…
Build vid coming soon?
It’s tuff?
Laker fan do you know if cap breakers unlock animations???
They do
I’m just ready for someone to make it so I can see how it performs. Have yet to see one of these in any game mode
I’m loving my 5’9 right now. i’m having so much fun with the strength on it as well. goated build
Have you played park? Also did you upgrade dunk or just layup?
@@LeCaleb i’ve played about 12 park games and it’s been nice. i’m still learning my timing on the jumpshot and i only have like 2 silver badges but it’s been consistent. i only upgraded my layup. i got it to 81 so i can get silver layup badges and trae young layup package
@@myMattressFirm yeah bro I’m trying to decide if I should not upgrade driving dunk and just use layups so I can use those points towards something else, but I’m not sure if they’re op or not this year
@@LeCaleb driving dunk is just super expensive. the layups are nice but they aren’t as crazy as 24
@@myMattressFirmhow has defense been for you on that build? Do you feel like you’re able to get good contests consistently?
I have one made but waiting to see how shot contest is on these builds. If taller builds can just shoot in your face they'll be a major liability
On your 5’9, 6’1 wing and 185 pound build, it shows you can get to 73 strength, but on my builder it’s only 70??????
All I’m going to say is go watch Tyceno clips for 2k25! He is definitely playing on a 5”9 build and cooking! This build is giving play shot on steroids vibes!! Also if you know how to play defense you should be causing problems out there! The build has strength and defense! 90 percent of 2k players have no strength and no passing! This build might be it!!
I’ve never seen a small shot hunter with defense this good in the past
Just geeking over stats bro😂 only time will tell if this will scone good
Lower the steal because plucks are dead this year anyway and you don't need 96 for lane steals if you reading it right and bump perim D to 97. I feel like that's the only way these guards won't get absolutely sprayed on.
You forget its 2k, ppl going to complain about the steals in some regard. So I say keep it where it is for protection from a future patch
@@alphawolfsrs3802 huh? People always complain that they need to nerf steals... Are you saying the community is going to spam that steals need to be buffed now?
@@compdogg94 no the opposite. People gonna complain so there gonna nerf steals overall so in order to get any lane or on ball steals you going to need it as really high steal. Or there gonna buff unpluck. Bum steals will never go away. There are only three options. Unpluck buff where guards just dribble through everyone or nerf on steals overall all. Or three both. People are gonna spam steal regardless.
@@alphawolfsrs3802 they're not changing anything lol... They're only going to change something if the community spams them with complaints and there hasn't been nearly enough people whining about pluck steals or lane steals yet for them to change anything.
@@compdogg94 they did in 2k24 and the steals were perfect. They always change something. Its 2k, they can never leave the game alone. 2k is always tweaking something
Hopefully I run into LOTS of this build gimme the free wins :) Maybe its viable on 5s but anything else no shot that steal wont protect you like u think with t-rex arms.
I played with two 5ft9’s in the rec and yeah they got good stats but they was getting cooked on defense
You actually done get contested much with this build
Every year I make a small guard first one I ever made was like 2020 5'7 😂😂 in the post I was trash but i could still get wa on the 2s
CAN YOU PLEASE TEST IF BULLDOZER ANIMATIONS ARE IN THE GAME? I CANT GET ANY.
They are. I’ve had a few happen against me going against Cade in test.
It is; seems to be a combination of physical finisher and strong handles.
What is the attribute for ball handle that can work well like 40 ball handle last year?
Idk because I think that’s tied with lighting launch
Best build in the game point blank
I tried this build and so far its not great tbh. Im a freaking midget people are dunking on me, doing lays on me, everything. Im getting bullied.
Well yeah, you can't guard paint at 5'9.... that's not it's strength.
@@Revan-N7 what did you expect with your midget build?
bros tryna guard paint with a 5'9
@@AstuteExxy Who said anything about defending the paint why are commenting to talk shit ? I play park and pro-am and this build is getting bullied because people usually have taller guards and it's really difficult to defend against them.
Can taller builds just shoot in your face?
If you play against Joey they gonna put him on the hash and pretend he’s playing 2k19
Everybody shooting over that don’t matter the defense
Havent seen anyone make high pass acc build is it not as important as last year now?
I’ve experimented with 97 for Legend Dimer and HOF Bail Out and 95 for HOF Dimer and Gold Bail Out. I feel no difference there but I am a passer. I’m using 95 this year and no less than 92 for HOF Dimer all year.
Make a lock build pls
Basically all 2k did was make it where they couldn't get high Driving dunk.....What does the 5'9" SG look like??
They can't go that short 6ft0 is shortest for a SG
am i gonna get cooked in park with this build?
Yes
Bruh yall already talking about playing zone?? Are yall this bad? The court is wider and u can put per D and agility up to play some actual defense yall dont gotta cheese for wins on this years game.
Cmon bro koza made a build already locking up small guards so there's no excuse to be playing zone on this year's game unless yall wanna cheese for wins bcuz yall not good and this goes for all of yall who play zone
zone defense is real defense not cheese
shutcho weak ah up😂😂😂
@@skrewkee7307😂😂😂 these scrubs see a 2-3 and start panicking. Bro probably hates football 😂
dude play straight pickup irl🤦♂️ zone has always been the norm
Kid is complaining about people playing basketball on a basketball game lmao what a world we live in
Man.... I'm praying 🙏 that interior D, perimeter D and agility works correctly and doesn't get patched cause damn.....Us locks and rims gone need some help 😅😅
This is just cheese. How is this balanced at all?
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How are MIDDYS this year???
Great. I hit consistently with an 86 mid. Granted I have a 96 three but in test, 86 makes me hit very well. Especially out of a go to shot. That Steph go to is so easy to time
5’9
I can’t wait to see the smack talker get dropped by 5’9 builds. Obviously players who are elite but I can’t wait to see people eat their words.
Short 5-9
Over dose all day
My irl build is back 💪🏿
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@@Account-cz5cs 5'9 is average goofy. Turn off the tv
@@freshswagga100bro came to his Brethren’s defense, I respect it short king
I’m really only 5’7” 😭😭😭
@@Account-cz5cscan't control height bro
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These 5’9 builds are TRASH. I hope 2k nerfs them more
If they’re trash why do they need to be nerfed?😂
@@AdrianSimmonsJr. they not, he just hate small builds cuz they annoyin
they cant be nerfed
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This is what 6”6’s should look like we’re not role players man
Lmao at hawking lanes with a baby armed 5’9 stop it
I have one with a 97 steal and I average 5 steals a game
Just played a game where one of them got 8 interceptions
If you’re close enough and interceptor high enough., the 5’9 height won’t hurt you as much cause the interceptor will give you a good animation regardless
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Bro the game just came out ur milking it ode
Is dunking good this year? Do I get 89 driving dunk or just go for layups
89 driving 78 vert
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