Who Were the Royal Marines of Nelson's Navy?

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  • @BrandonF
    @BrandonF  Год назад +17

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    ROYAL MARINE UNIFORMS AND WEAPONS: the.recast.app/video/6o0ZY
    My first Recast exclusive video is an addendum to this one where I discuss the Royal Marines' uniforms and weapons! It's a much more casual format where I just sit and talk about some of the info that I couldn't really fit into this video.
    I'm using Recast because it is a much better platform for creators like myself. Like, it's difficult to get across just how much insanely better it is revenue wise. If even a small portion of my audience were to start watching my videos early there, or watch the exclusive content, I'd be able to reduce the ads on RUclips to just one pre-roll or even get rid of them entirely.
    Recast is FREE to use. You sign up in a few seconds, and then use "Casts" to watch the videos. You ~can~ purchase the Casts for real money (5 casts=5p) or you can just watch a single ad to get them. I only ever price my content to where you need to watch a single ad to see the video.
    So again, if enough of my audience were to hop over to watch my videos early, or watch my addendum videos there, it'd be a complete game changer and make everyone's experience an awful lot better, I think. Plus being able to pay my rent more reliably would be 10/10.
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    • @hellacoorinna9995
      @hellacoorinna9995 Год назад

      Is it true, that Marine Captains, serving on a vessel were called "Major" (on account there can be only _one_ "Captain"? And that Navy Captains on any other navy vessel (as a guest I should assume) would be called "Commodore" for much the same reason?

    • @stephenv796
      @stephenv796 Год назад

      Why do you have a welsh flag in your background?

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад +2

      @@stephenv796 Wales is nice.

    • @Alulim-Eridu
      @Alulim-Eridu Год назад

      @@BrandonF
      I just finished watching the addendum video over at RECAST
      & I thought it was an excellent video.
      I do think your more scripted videos have more production value,
      & I would say the more scripted/edited videos are “better”,
      on an entertainment level, than the informal presentation.
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      without the added effect of having a more formal video!
      I thought it was an excellent video.
      And I have never used RECAST before.
      So I love the idea of having additional content where you’re delivering the information,
      in a more informal manner.
      *Especially* if it allows you to put out more content & deliver more info than you could otherwise!
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    • @stephenv796
      @stephenv796 Год назад

      @@BrandonF Let me guess Royal Welsh Fusiliers

  • @zyzor
    @zyzor Год назад +354

    Aubrey: “Captain Howard and the Marines will sweep their weatherdeck with swivel guns and muskets from the tops. They shall even the odds for us before we board.”

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +20

      Listening to the books on Audible. Such a fun series.

    • @skibbideeskitch9894
      @skibbideeskitch9894 Год назад +29

      Precisely what the marines of HMS Shannon (and the gun teams) did in their famous battle with USS Chesapeake.

    • @99IronDuke
      @99IronDuke Год назад +15

      One of the few inaccuracies in that otherwise excellent film. Mostly the Royal marines fought with their muskets from the decks of a warship, often the quarterdeck, partly because Royal Marines could not be ordered into the rigging and fighting tops.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 Год назад +2

      @@99IronDuke So then, who was it that manned the fighting tops in battle?

    • @konstantinosnikolakakis8125
      @konstantinosnikolakakis8125 Год назад +11

      @Sir Boomsalot Sailors I believe. Ironically, I read that at Trafalgar Lord Nelson ordered that men were not to fire from the fighting tops out of fear that they would set the sails on fire.

  • @noaccount4
    @noaccount4 Год назад +119

    One of the neat anecdotes an RN officer told me was how the Royal Marines got their moniker of "bootnecks" from their habit of cutting the top of their boots off and using the tough leather to protect their necks from any sailors trying to ambush them and cut their throats in the prelude to a mutiny

    • @johnmullholand2044
      @johnmullholand2044 Год назад +42

      American marines got the nickname of "leathernecks" in the same fashion. A leather neck piece used to protect from sword and knife cuts, and to keep their heads in a "military bearing". Unfortunately, they were not bulletproof, as proven by one on display in the museum at Fort Meigs, in Perrysburg Ohio.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Год назад +11

      @@johnmullholand2044 This is probably the same as the above comment but because of the leather the nickname boot was used.

    • @davehopkin9502
      @davehopkin9502 Год назад +28

      Like most legends there is an element of truth in it, but the leather "neck protectors" were common to the Marines and Army and called "Stocks" but were not made from cut off boots, but they were an issued peice of kit - however sailors did not wear them, so the nickname "bootnecks" (or indeed "Leathernecks") is likely to have come from the difference between sailors and marines

    • @JBils41
      @JBils41 Год назад +11

      Indeed, Stocks were high stiff leather collars that buckled round the neck that were designed to keep a soldier’s neck high and straight and to stop them from slouching… they caused neck sores, were hideously uncomfortable and loathed by soldiers and marines alike…

    • @amh9494
      @amh9494 Год назад +2

      @@JBils41 luckily soldiers got to chuck them before the marines

  • @The_Viscount
    @The_Viscount Год назад +44

    One of my favorite stories is of that marine on the Victory who realized that a kask of musket balls fit rather snugly into the muzzle of a 64lb carronade. Made the largest shotgun in the fleet that day.

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 Год назад +35

    I have recently been reading about the early British Marines, and it is fascinating to note that when the original Admiral's Regiment was disbanded some of the troops were put into Guards units such as the Coldstream Guards. When later, new Marines were raised, the Guards Regiments provided cadres from their ranks that would be sergeants and corporals for the Marines.

  • @bofoenss8393
    @bofoenss8393 Год назад +123

    Great video as always.
    One thing I read long ago was that there could be difficulty in recruiting officers for the marines, since they could only rise to the rank of major - the regulated rank necessary to command an independent detachment or force on land consisting of more than one company. Rising higher was extremely difficult since there basically were no positions to be filled. So the classic "pool" from which army officers often came was almost shut tight. There could be no colonelcy and you could not "just" raise your own regiment and become its colonel if you had the money.
    Also, to my knowledge, promotion through the ranks and commissions were not purchased as in the army, but rather was due to seniority and reward for special conduct, as in the navy. So the Marines did not have the same issue with incompetent officers to the same degree as the army since you had to earn your promotion.

    • @thecount5558
      @thecount5558 Год назад +12

      One wonders how the marine officers stood in contrast with naval officers when it came to seniority. We could assume that the first lieutenant of any ship was the equivalent of a marine/army captain but after him we have the second, third, fourth lieutenants etc. Would those lieutenants have all been equivalent to an army/marine first lieutenant? They would rank above a 2nd lieutenant of the marines, of course, since the 2nd lieutenant/ensign would have been equivalent (of sorts) to a midshipman... yet if I remember correctly, commissioned officers outranked warrant officers (eg. midshipmen) but a ship's master would also rank above a 1st and 2nds lieutenant of marines (at least according to Wikipedia. (Yes, quite reliable indeed))... it can be quite confusing...

    • @ForceSmart
      @ForceSmart Год назад +17

      @@thecount5558 I suspect that Marine officers were not considered naval line officers and that they were outside of the ship's chain of command. Their duty was to support the authority of the legitimate commanding officer of HMS. Thus I believe that a Marine Captain would have deferred to the authority of a Midshipman if that Midshipman was the senior surviving naval officer or senior naval officer present. However, a Midshipman with any intelligence would be wise to heed the advice of a Marine Captain who is almost certainly older and more experienced in most situations.

    • @biggiouschinnus7489
      @biggiouschinnus7489 Год назад +3

      There might be some truth to the remarks about officer competence, but against that you have to balance the relative lack of company or battalion level training that the marines received during this period. The popular perception of them, thanks to Total War, is of elite infantry - when in reality, their usefulness in conventional landing engagements was quite limited. Not due to any individual lack of skill, I must emphasise, but because there was very little opportunity on board ship for marines to practice the sort of things - battalion movements, moving into a line of battle from a column, etc - that were vital to actions on land. They were essentially specialist boarding/landing party troops, as opposed to the elite line infantry they're usually portrayed as.

  • @BrandonF
    @BrandonF  Год назад +21

    ROYAL MARINE UNIFORMS AND WEAPONS: the.recast.app/video/6o0ZY
    My first Recast exclusive video is an addendum to this one where I discuss the Royal Marines' uniforms and weapons! It's a much more casual format where I just sit and talk about some of the info that I couldn't really fit into this video.
    I'm using Recast because it is a much better platform for creators like myself. Like, it's difficult to get across just how much insanely better it is revenue wise. If even a small portion of my audience were to start watching my videos early there, or watch the exclusive content, I'd be able to reduce the ads on RUclips to just one pre-roll or even get rid of them entirely.
    Recast is FREE to use. You sign up in a few seconds, and then use "Casts" to watch the videos. You ~can~ purchase the Casts for real money (5 casts=5p) or you can just watch a single ad to get them. I only ever price my content to where you need to watch a single ad to see the video.
    So again, if enough of my audience were to hop over to watch my videos early, or watch my addendum videos there, it'd be a complete game changer and make *everyone's* experience an awful lot better, I think. Plus being able to pay my rent more reliably would be 10/10.
    So go check out my Recast page, get early notifications for every video, and watch exclusive content without spending any money! And if you have problems with the platform, of any sort, I basically have a direct line to the developers of the site. So leave a comment and let me know, and I can forward it along! I really want to see that place succeed.

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +1

      This needs a pinning or something. Too far down the comments already, and going to drop further

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад +1

      @@ostrowulf Good idea!

    • @00muinamir
      @00muinamir Год назад +1

      Dangnabbit, you had to go put the uniforms and weapons bit on Recast! Okay, fine, one more signup...

  • @kaithompson3074
    @kaithompson3074 Год назад +23

    "A ship without Marines is like a garment without buttons." - Adm. David Porter.

  • @davidweston6653
    @davidweston6653 Год назад +119

    In the wonderful Hornblower series of books by CS Forrester he often mentions the marines and their duties. I highly recommend these books

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +9

      They are next on my Audible list. Hoing through the Aubry/Machurin series currently.

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +8

      The movies, however, I love, and watched several times since I first saw them as a teen.

    • @99IronDuke
      @99IronDuke Год назад +7

      The Patrick O'Brian 'Aubrey-Maturin' books are even better.

    • @bofoenss8393
      @bofoenss8393 Год назад +5

      Dudley Pope's Ramage series also goes into great detail on the marines on several occasions. Great book series, both of them.

    • @buckstrucks4476
      @buckstrucks4476 Год назад +2

      @@bofoenss8393 Don't forget David Donachie's John Pearce books. I'm only on book 4 but it is pretty good.

  • @SusCalvin
    @SusCalvin Год назад +39

    Naval troops today also have a security role. The threat of a mutiny of sailors taking over a carrier is hopefully small, but there is always some need for security in naval installations and when visiting ports around the world. Some of these duties can be filled by sailors, some with less elite security units.

    • @acid6urns
      @acid6urns 3 месяца назад +1

      i mean every aircraft carrier has a detachment of american marines on it, as well as whatever the navy’s version of MPs are

    • @acid6urns
      @acid6urns 3 месяца назад

      talking abt american navy btw obviously

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 месяца назад

      @@acid6urns I know military ports, air bases etc have some sort of security units around them.

  • @poil8351
    @poil8351 Год назад +9

    it sort of gets complex just after the napoleonic wars because there we’re literally two separate types of marines for most of the 19th century the royal marine artillery and the royal marine light infantry.
    although the split took place actually earlier in 1804 because bomb vessels had been manned by royal artillery personnel but a court had ruled that royal artillery officers were not subject to naval orders, so they created the royal marine artillery to crew the bomb vessels instead.

  • @marxbruder
    @marxbruder Год назад +12

    the 4th (King's Own) served as a marine regiment from 1703-1710, and adopted "A Life on the Ocean Wave" (one of the Royal Marines' marches) into it's regimental music in the 19th century.

  • @chrisholland7367
    @chrisholland7367 Год назад +8

    Great presentation. It's about time the R.M.s had their story told .
    The Royal Marines were based in the big ports of Britain Plymouth, Portsmouth, and Chatham and Woolwich.
    Today, a large percentage of Royal Marines are based in the historical port /city of Plymouth with the Royal Navy.

  • @Koala1203
    @Koala1203 Год назад +18

    I always know about these Marines ever since my ancestors first met them in Australia back in the late 1700s.

    • @E350tb
      @E350tb Год назад +2

      That detachment was under Major Robert Ross’ command, much to the apparent dismay of his subordinates - I believe Watkin Tench called him ‘the most disagreeable officer I ever served under’ or something to that effect.

    • @evilstorm5954
      @evilstorm5954 Год назад +1

      They captured Australia and ever since it’s been Crown land. I don’t recall the natives putting up much fight, or I would surely have heard the stories of the British being defeated in battle by now. If you don’t fight you lose. No more talk of “aboriginal” land please. They lost once easily, it will be much more dissatifactory to the weak minded what will happen if the natives want to fight now.

    • @Rob.P974
      @Rob.P974 Год назад +2

      He’s a koala, they probably ate his great great great great great grandparents.

    • @generalgrievous2202
      @generalgrievous2202 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@evilstorm5954they did fight, there were these things called the Australian frontier wars

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Год назад +25

    I don't know what I enjoyed more, the well-done video on the Royal Marines or seeing Colonel Klink again!
    A great show Brandon, as always! By the way, you may want to look up the mutiny on HMS Hermione in (I think) 1797, one the Marines DIDN'T try to stop. Captain Pigott was one psychotic individual and provoked the worst on-board mutiny in RN history. When the sailors came after Pigott the Marines stepped out of the way. (Or were overpowered, depending on the source. At any rate no enlisted Marines were killed during the muntiny.)

  • @columbmurray
    @columbmurray 4 месяца назад +1

    As a former Royal Marines i became a member of the Royal Marines Historical Society . This gave me access to historical archives. Some things I found out were that marines escorted convicts to Australia , many of whom ( girls ) were accused of prostitution. But the Marines deserted in Australia and married their charges ! A second story is that Marines did not have barracks in Nelsons day and were housed in dockside Inns. In the charge book seems quite a number of marines sold their uniforms and accoutrements and deserted with ' inn girLs ' . The discharge book gives the reason for discharge as ' old and worn out' . Or , less so , ' feeble of mind , fails to load a musket.'
    You presentation is excellent.

  • @thecount5558
    @thecount5558 Год назад +36

    Any chance that you'll talk in greater detail about the Marines officers, specifically? (eg. How they were commissioned, were they also required to learn about ships and navigation like naval officers, as well as their rank/promotion system etc.)

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +3

      Also, how true is the reffence in the Aubry/Macheruin books about captains becoming also Marine Col.s as reward and an adminstrative tool to give a captain a boost when too many other captains were in front for promotion?

    • @thecount5558
      @thecount5558 Год назад +3

      @@ostrowulf I don't know if that was the reason certain officers became "Colonel of the Marines" but it did happen several times... in the army. Certain officers were awared the "rank" of "Colonel of this particular regiment" after performing their duties well, giving a good and long service, or doing a certain brave and heroic deed.

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад

      @@thecount5558 Okay, so it at least was a thing, then.

    • @poorhammer2d
      @poorhammer2d Год назад

      I'd love to learn more about various skirmishes and fights of the british empire outside the american revolutionary war, i'm too sad there that the britain lost so badly

    • @ronhall9394
      @ronhall9394 Год назад +1

      @@thecount5558 might that not be - as it is today - an honoury thing. Princess Anne is an honoury colonel of more things than you can shake a stick at, I know she's probably hard as nails but has limited experience of commanding a full Regiment in combat.

  • @captainscarlett1
    @captainscarlett1 Год назад +7

    And when they became Royal Marines their regimental necessities, ie metal insignia, went from silver to gold. Also a captain of marines afloat was referred to as major, so as not to be confused with the captain of the ship. There was only one captain on a ship, unless it was a flagship in which case there might be a flag captain and/or a fleet captain. Just to be more confusing the captain of a sloop of war might be a commander or lieutenant.

  • @00muinamir
    @00muinamir Год назад +3

    Your accent during the WoT bit is sending me--I just got here on the heels of rewatching a bunch of Klaus videos.

  • @noelwym123
    @noelwym123 Год назад +28

    Great video! Have been playing a fair bit of Napoleon: Total War as of late and have seen these marines scurrying up and down the decks of the British ships.
    Speaking of that, here's a video suggestion: Foreign legions serving under the British. Would love to hear about how different nationalities ended up serving under the British banner, like the French emigres or the Brunswickers.

    • @jobe5514
      @jobe5514 Год назад

      I'd go one further and request videos of those foreign units serving in the Grande Armée - could do an entire series on that.

    • @Pandaonfire5
      @Pandaonfire5 Год назад

      What mod are you using? I've yet to find one with accurate Royal Marine uniforms

    • @noelwym123
      @noelwym123 Год назад

      @@Pandaonfire5 La Montee de L'Empire at the moment.

    • @Thecodytree
      @Thecodytree Год назад

      @@Pandaonfire5 i would expect napoleonic total war III to have accurate uniforms, though i haven’t checked. historical accuracy is their main selling point.

  • @E350tb
    @E350tb Год назад +6

    I’ve always preferred the white facings to the blue ones, if I’m being totally honest…
    Excellent video!

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary Год назад +4

    The reason there was such a high risk of mutiny or desertion on the Royal Navy ships was that many of the sailors had been “impressed” (press-ganged)- basically kidnapped and forced to serve on a Naval ship. It was only natural that they’d try to escape if they got the chance.

  • @evilstorm5954
    @evilstorm5954 Год назад +4

    My Grandfather was an Original Royal Marine Commando- 40Commando RM, and went on the Dieppe Raid.

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 Год назад +6

    Well, that was a clear history of the Royal Marines. Great.

  • @old_boy9030
    @old_boy9030 Год назад +4

    Something I've been curious about for a long while is that one scene in "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" where the officer in charge of the Marines accidentally shot the ships doctor while waving his firearm around trying to get a bead on an albatross or some other kind of seabird. Would he be subject to express physical discipline like the rest of the crew for his absolutely reckless misuse of his firearm, or would he, say, be confined to quarters for the duration of the voyage until the admiralty court would hear his case upon return to port? I've heard from one person that he may have been subject to physical discipline like any other seaman (especially considering his offense) given that the captain of the ship has a lot of leeway when it comes to what happens on it, but others saying that his status as an officer would make it so that any serious punishment would come from a court martial

  • @commandergree113
    @commandergree113 Год назад +12

    Come on Brandon it’s 11 and I have school tomorrow. How am I supposed to sleep well knowing nothing royal marines

  • @hurst1936
    @hurst1936 Год назад +1

    Nice to see the Welsh dragon in the background

  • @austincottrell5122
    @austincottrell5122 Год назад +3

    They drilled the same as the army and acquitted themselves well at Bunker Hill. At some point I'm going to look into the nuances that separated the uniforms of army and marines in the American War of Independence era (later on it was easier to do when the marines adopted the more iconic hat).

    • @chrisholland7367
      @chrisholland7367 10 месяцев назад

      They were also partly responsible for the burning down of the White House with the army.

  • @kevincorby435
    @kevincorby435 Год назад +3

    Some British Army regiments who have history of being a Marine reg. Sometimes have Royal Marine officers on attachment to them.

  • @thebestteammate6528
    @thebestteammate6528 Год назад +3

    I feel like the Royal Marines are like the Grenadiers of the Sea as technically you can think of them as the heavy seamen as they are better trained then the Sailors and can be relied on to deal with the enemy ship’s crew

  • @bazzatheblue
    @bazzatheblue Год назад +2

    Talking about the separation of marine and sailor onboard,one time that a ship took to see without a contingent of marines was the voyage of HMS Bounty,in all probability if there had been some,the mutiny would never have happend.

  • @anotherjones5384
    @anotherjones5384 Год назад +4

    It brings me great joy that you used Hornblower footage. Keep up the fantastic entertaining and enlightening work my friend

  • @tancredbey606
    @tancredbey606 Год назад +5

    Love the Hornblower clips such a good show. The indefatigable 😎

  • @khateatingcactus
    @khateatingcactus Год назад +2

    RUclips lacks creators like you, amazing video as always will be looking forward for more

  • @studentaviator3756
    @studentaviator3756 Год назад +18

    When Buonaparte came on deck, he looked at the marines, who were generally fine-looking young men, with much satisfaction; went through their ranks, inspected their arms, and admired their appearance, saying to Bertrand, "How much might be done with a hundred thousand such soldiers as these."

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek Год назад +12

    What did they eat before crayons

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад +13

      Mainly hard tack. Similar effect.

    • @haouribi
      @haouribi Год назад +3

      @BrandonF oh I thought it was fish and chips but I guess that’s true

    • @reymundogonzales3591
      @reymundogonzales3591 3 месяца назад +2

      Seaman

  • @arthursandomine5464
    @arthursandomine5464 Год назад +2

    One thing of note is that the Captain (like in the first Hornblower books) was called a Major although not actually being one. This was to not be mistaken for the Captain of the whole ship whoms authority he was under.
    That book has to be the best book ever! Also Jack Tar and A Young Officers Sheet Anchor are real gems!

  • @michaelbuckfield6793
    @michaelbuckfield6793 Год назад +4

    I have that book and the illustrated guide to the book as well. Both are amazingly detailed and have been used as referance material for my own series of Royal Navy historical fiction novels. Thank you again for another great and very intresting video Brandon

  • @johnavast5939
    @johnavast5939 Год назад +2

    Another fantastic episode! Very excited for this one and not disappointed!!

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 5 месяцев назад

    I'm a reenactor in Gibraltar and we have a set of Royal Marine uniforms from 1805

  • @joeblow9657
    @joeblow9657 Год назад +3

    Fascinating stuff Brandon, love the choice of subject. Please feel free to do more episodes on similiar topics if you so please!

  • @CrazayFish1
    @CrazayFish1 Год назад

    your sponsor segments are getting better and better

  • @columbmurray
    @columbmurray 4 месяца назад

    And for your info Brandon , this separation was kept to the 1960s . When on exercise in the 60s with the army on a terrible snowing night in the Highlands the army gave out tea , when a marine sergeant caught us in the queue for tea we were removed under a severe dressing down , we were marines not pongos ( derogatory term for army.) !

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  4 месяца назад

      Thanks so much for your comments- that's a really interesting story! Although I can't say it sounds like a very fun one, at least at the time!

  • @alphamikejuliet1501
    @alphamikejuliet1501 Год назад +1

    Great video. Per Mare Per Terram!

  • @aaravtulsyan
    @aaravtulsyan Год назад +3

    1:43 OMG is that Private Pike

  • @95DarkFire
    @95DarkFire Год назад +1

    16:40 "I scarcely knew the head from the stern."
    That quote is doubly funny if you know that the sailor's toilets were named "the head" after their location.

  • @Chris__Wolf
    @Chris__Wolf Год назад

    I´m so glad I did not skip the comercial. Well done! :D Greetings from Hannover!

  • @Pooknottin
    @Pooknottin Год назад +3

    Thanks Brandon. Very enjoyable as always, even the ad (still one of the best at that).
    I look forward to your content. It has never disappointed.
    Nice to see the marines being covered.
    Who is the little woofer I heard at the end there trying to join in?

  • @TotalRookie_LV
    @TotalRookie_LV Год назад +9

    But how were Marines motivated to keep sailors in check instead of conspiring with them? Higher pay grade, better rations, something other to distinguish their status? I mean, who would notice a couple of cups of rum being gone?!

    • @seasoldier3902
      @seasoldier3902 Год назад +4

      The Officer of the Watch supervised the daily issue of the rum/spirits ration to the crew from the Ship's Purser.
      The Marines were "sworn men" (took the oath of allegiance to the Crown) unlike the sailors who were contracted.

    • @angloaust1575
      @angloaust1575 Год назад +1

      The movie hms defiant depicts
      Marines joining the mutiny
      At spithead!

  • @AIRSOFTREEACTOR
    @AIRSOFTREEACTOR Год назад

    I really like their uniforms. Especially their hats. Makes me want to join a reenactment group of them.

  • @imperium8932
    @imperium8932 Год назад +18

    Great video, I would love to see a video comparing British and American units (such as the marines) during the war of 1812 or at least some form of war of 1812 combat forced on the USA

    • @Sybok51288
      @Sybok51288 Год назад +2

      i would also enjoy a video! American professional army was very small during this time, instead mostly was volunteer militia - primary reason why they failed to take Canada and why cities like Washington DC got sacked (worked out though at lake new orleans!). this was due to political ideology as at the time large professional armies were considered a European monarchy sort of thing opposed to the envisioned republicanism of the USA

    • @garylancaster8612
      @garylancaster8612 Год назад +5

      @@Sybok51288 That's the exact same reason that large standing armies were looked upon with suspicion in Britain too. The potential for tyranny. They were seen as a continental European thing, not a British one.

    • @doug6500
      @doug6500 Год назад +1

      The most effective use of Marines in that war occurred during the Raid on Essex when Royal Marines (and sailors) stealthily caused the single biggest maritime loss of the conflict.
      Not really talked about, unsurprisingly.

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 3 месяца назад

    Interestingly enough.. during WW1 (and probably after that, too), the Marines on a warship were given one of the gun turrets to operate. A Marine major on HMS Lion (Beatty's flagship) was awarded the VC posthumously for ordering the doors to the magazine shut when the turret was penetrated during the Battle of Jutland, saving the ship.

  • @plp50000009
    @plp50000009 Год назад +1

    Just finding these videos and look forward to seeing this channel grow.
    Do you take potential discussion ideas for video content?

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад +1

      I can never make promises because my video list is insanely long, but requests/suggestions are always welcome!

  • @bobstine3785
    @bobstine3785 4 месяца назад

    As you know, Admiral Nelson was mortally wounded by a French sharpshooter firing from his ship's rigging

  • @thedislikebutton3425
    @thedislikebutton3425 Год назад

    Excellent video! Thank you very much!

  • @lawindacera7219
    @lawindacera7219 Год назад

    Hearing Brandon in a german accent is delightful

  • @MrOhdead
    @MrOhdead Год назад +1

    Awesome video Brandon, had a broad view of the RM but the detail of the Napoleonic wars, I have never really come across.

  • @grahamholmes9737
    @grahamholmes9737 Год назад +1

    I've often been curious about the head gear? Why didn't they wear stove pipe or belique shakos? Did the top hats serve a better purpose at sea for rain or something?

  • @CodyCEngdahl
    @CodyCEngdahl Год назад

    You are like one of my new favorite dudes. Thank you for the work you do.

  • @jonathanbryan5657
    @jonathanbryan5657 Год назад +1

    This was a really interesting video so thanks for posting this. I was always interested in the ties/interactions the royal marines had with the US, specifically during the period from 1775 to 1815. I know some took part in the battle of bunker hill (allegedly leading the final charge) as well as taking part in the brandywine as well as the burning of the white house in 1814. The USMC was also heavily inspired by the RMin their creation and early traditions. It would be great to see a short video on this if you every return to the corps

  • @longyx321
    @longyx321 Год назад +1

    Nice job for the day...

  • @amtmannb.4627
    @amtmannb.4627 Год назад +3

    Very interesting topic and nice pictures. I would like to learn more about marines in the AWI. Thank you for your work.

    • @seasoldier3902
      @seasoldier3902 Год назад +1

      There are numerous books published by the Royal Marines Historical Society. Try Britains Sea Soldiers Vol I and II by General Blumburg

  • @53gaDr34mc4st
    @53gaDr34mc4st Год назад +1

    I love your German accent, by the way! It reminds me of The Major from Hellsing.

  • @james_baker
    @james_baker Год назад

    Your video here and on Recast was very informative. I now know I was not cut out to be a 19th century Marine. I've never reloaded a musket, the closest I've come would be a cap and ball revolver. Not the easiest of tasks on dry stable land with no one shooting at you. To reload a musket on a rocking deck in the middle of a naval battle, while worried about the shape of my hat, just might be a little too much. Thank you sir, as always a delight to watch.

    • @jamesleonard7439
      @jamesleonard7439 Год назад +1

      I loaded and fired a brown bess at Cheshire County game fair among other 18th century guns, was very impressed with the guns and actually hit the clay pigeon. Awesome weekend.

  • @kenking1228
    @kenking1228 Год назад +2

    A forebear of my late wife served on HMS Victory at the Battle of Trafalgar,he was Marine John Thompson of Little Swaffham nr Cambridge ( Swaffham Bulbeck)!.

  • @tricorne.953
    @tricorne.953 Год назад +2

    Now that you've done the organization and structure of the Marines. Can you do a video on the structure and organization of the Navy? Similar to your videos about the army ranks and such, if theres any videos from you relating to this please tell me. If there isn't well, here's a video idea for you!

  • @garylancaster8612
    @garylancaster8612 Год назад +8

    To this day the Marines salute with the open palmed Army salute whilst the Navy salute with the flat palmed, American looking style. I'd be interested to know when Marines stopped wearing redcoats and began to wear blue as they do now when in formal uniform. I watched the RM Band Plymouth in concert just before Christmas. Something else, fantastic show, the highlights for me being Heart of Oak followed by A Life on the Ocean Wave at the end.

    • @jonathanlewis453
      @jonathanlewis453 Год назад +3

      For most of the 19th Century, the Royal Marines were divided into Royal Marine Light Infantry and Royal Marine Artillery. This distinction ended in 1923 but prior to that date the RMA tended to wear blue and the RMLI scarlet. Scarlet may have endured for ceremonial purposes until 1914 but in Edwardian times both branches adopted a blue service uniform with a Broderick (peak less) cap having a distinctive badge and a red tombstone type patch behind it (RMLI) or a red piped outline of the same feature (RMA). During WW1, both branches served in France and on board the great ships of the Royal Navy, wearing blue on board ship or the ubiquitous khaki whilst on the Western front. Let us not forget that RM Bandsmen served on board ships and suffered some losses during WW1, their duties doubling as stretcher bearers in battle. There was once a time when command and control on board ship was exercised by buglers and these were furnished by the Royal Marines.
      The present blue uniform of the Royal Marines was probably authorised in much the same form as today in 1923.
      Royal Marines who earn the Commando qualification become entitled to wear the Green beret. Those who are not wear the blue beret (or a visor cap) with the globe and Laurel cap badge on a red tombstone patch. There is a legend that in the early days, these patches were cut from the cloth of scarlet RMLI tunics.

    • @seasoldier3902
      @seasoldier3902 Год назад +1

      It was in 1805 when the Royal Marines were divided into two organisations; Royal Marines (later to be called Royal Marines Light Infantry) and the Royal Marines Artillery. The RMLI wore the traditional red coats and the RMA wore the blue uniform of the artillery. Then in 1923 the RMLI and the RMA amalgamated to form the Royal Marines. Then the blue uniform was adopted by all ranks.

    • @garylancaster8612
      @garylancaster8612 Год назад +1

      @@seasoldier3902 Thanks very much for that. From your user name I presume you're ex or current RM yourself.

    • @jonathanlewis453
      @jonathanlewis453 Год назад +1

      @@seasoldier3902 I hesitate to quibble but the RMLI battalions of the Royal Marine Brigade landed at Ostend in 1914 wearing blue tunics.
      Suffice it to say the principles, which dictated that servicemen should not be wearing scarlet on active service were established after the Boer War and had long been implemented in the army. The Royal Marines came to it late, but they were not immune from this process.
      So far as the interval 1919-1923 is concerned, I cannot see the wisdom in procuring obsolescent uniforms. In the absence of better information, I would not be surprised if scarlet were very substantially out of the picture by 1914.

    • @seasoldier3902
      @seasoldier3902 Год назад +2

      @@garylancaster8612 Retired but "Once a Marine Always a Marine!"

  • @vaughanb1963
    @vaughanb1963 Год назад +2

    Really great video, very informative

  • @Udjat013
    @Udjat013 Год назад +7

    Great video. I was wondering though how their officers would be commisioned? Was it more like the navy with it's midshipmen system or could it be bought outright like with land forces?

    • @thecount5558
      @thecount5558 Год назад +10

      I believe (I don't remember it very well so take this with a grain of salt), that Marine officers could no longer purchase their commissions after 1755... after that it was based mainly on recommendations from naval/marine officers and other such gentlemen with good reputations. Promotion was then based on merit and seniority.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад +10

      Count has it right. Royal Marine officers couldn't purchase commissions, but all promotion was based off of seniority like in the Navy.

  • @codeypasap3155
    @codeypasap3155 Год назад

    OMG was searching for something like this and here we are, thank you for another amazing upload.

  • @rogerauger7766
    @rogerauger7766 Год назад

    You just earned a new subscriber. Keep up the good work.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  Год назад

      Glad to have you aboard!

  • @Cohort444
    @Cohort444 Год назад

    I'm very thankful for your content.

  • @felixtheswiss
    @felixtheswiss Год назад +1

    Even more interesting than dutch are the Swiss recruits! Seafaring swiss are an old tradition apparently.

  • @croxion
    @croxion Год назад +1

    17:14 “bark”

  • @Speedy_pig123
    @Speedy_pig123 Год назад +1

    0:34 kinda reminds of how most SNLF/NLF formations were raised.

  • @Invictus13666
    @Invictus13666 Год назад +1

    Signed up and watching, little history dude. 😉👍🏽

  • @whyischeeseyellow2682
    @whyischeeseyellow2682 Год назад +6

    Can you react to Sabatons rorkes drift song? I am no expert on rorkes drift but me myself found some inaccurate stuff.

  • @Darkstar-qb3dh
    @Darkstar-qb3dh Год назад

    FINALLY he shows hornblower, a true gentleman 👍

  • @spheniscusdemersus
    @spheniscusdemersus Год назад +4

    Brandon it is far too late to be posting exciting videos. I won’t be able to sleep with Horacio on my mind.

  • @columbmurray
    @columbmurray 4 месяца назад

    True. But I think it was Admiral Beauty , WW1 , who thought marines useless that they did nothing that an Able Seaman couldn't do.
    Secondly , when King George suggested that marines were ' an empty vessel ' an officer of marines replied ' but they can be filled up again sir.'

  • @petermitchell8844
    @petermitchell8844 Год назад +4

    Just seen this very interesting video. It would be great if at some time you could a video on the Naval Brigades. My great grandfather was a seaman who won a Victoria Cross as part of a Naval Brigade in the New Zealand Wars in 1864. There does seem to be lot of information on the Naval Brigades.

    • @petermitchell8844
      @petermitchell8844 Год назад +2

      Meant to say "There does NOT seem to be a lot of information ..."

  • @johnwright9372
    @johnwright9372 Год назад

    Aubrey: "The quarterdeck is a damned unhealthy place in action."

  • @anthonygreen2100
    @anthonygreen2100 Год назад +1

    'Those Marines of whom I have so oft wrote you behaved themselves stoutly.' So said an RN Commanding Officer to a colleague after the Battle of Sole Bay during the Anglo-Dutch wars.
    As a former Royal Marine it is good to see our glorious history being highlighted. The 'Great Globe itself' was awarded by the sovereign instead of a flag with battle honours as used by army regiments because the sovereign decided there wasn't a flag big enough to put them all on!
    A matelot (British slang for an RN sailor) once told me that -
    'Royal Marine,
    Pride of the Queen,
    England's sheet anchor,
    First in,
    Last out!
    Second in the rum queue behind the stokers'.
    Since 28th October 1664 the Royal Marines have fashioned their own unique identity and ethos. Others can claim greatness but His Majesty's Royal Marines, in their own professional way personify it.

  • @vinz4066
    @vinz4066 Год назад +1

    As a german I aprove of the accent.
    Great Video btw.

  • @alect525
    @alect525 Год назад +2

    Wondering if you could make a video about the use of rifles and riflemen in the British army during the 18th and early 19th century. Could be in a similar way to this one, just comparing regular light infantry to rifles instead.

  • @mojo199
    @mojo199 10 месяцев назад

    18:05 Its interesting to note that theses Marine garrisons are actually all placed at the strategic locations where a French invasion would likely land

  • @brianwinters5434
    @brianwinters5434 Год назад +2

    The use with cannons was the origin of the US navy gunnery seargeants

    • @garylancaster8612
      @garylancaster8612 Год назад

      I have sometimes wondered why US marine sergeants are called Gunnery Sergeants. Did they direct cannon fire on US warships?

  • @ionceexisted
    @ionceexisted Год назад

    Yo, this is the video with the only sponsored message I didn’t skip.

  • @colinp2238
    @colinp2238 Год назад +1

    The Royal Artillery has a specialised regiment - 29 Commando Regiment that all members have to pass Marine Commando training, They wear a green beret, as do all Royal Marines. Likewise there is a Parachute gunner regiment - 7 Royal Horse Artillery, that have to pass parachute course and wear the red beret of the Parachute Regiments. They are proud of this and call the others that wear the standard navy blue beret Crap hats.

    • @chrissheppard5068
      @chrissheppard5068 Год назад

      No, they have to pass the Commando course run by the Royal Marines. RM do not refer to others as crap hat that is a pongo thing.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Год назад

      @chris sheppard Didn't I say that they have to pass a marine course? The paragunners certainly called us crap hats, and we had a lad that left 29 and he used the term a lot.

    • @rossbrook5919
      @rossbrook5919 Год назад

      The all arms commando course is a cut down version of the full 32 or whatever weeks it is now for RM recruits. I think its about 9 weeks total. Same criteria tests at the end but its not the same thing

  • @PickleIsMyDoggo
    @PickleIsMyDoggo Год назад

    Best Video I have ever seen, I love it so much!

  • @ronhall9394
    @ronhall9394 Год назад +1

    cracking!

  • @exermus2227
    @exermus2227 Год назад

    Great vid as always

  • @radejong013
    @radejong013 Год назад

    First detachment of naval soldiers (marines) was raised by admiral de Ruyter

  • @tonybaker55
    @tonybaker55 Год назад

    They were soldiers who would not puke on ships.

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 Год назад

    IIRC, the official allocation of Marines would be 1 per gun, with officers and NCOs in addition. So in normal circumstances, a 74-gun 3rd rate would have a little over 80 Marines.

  • @thelittlestmig3394
    @thelittlestmig3394 Год назад

    Amazing material!

  • @tanisjohnston3926
    @tanisjohnston3926 Год назад +5

    Quick question. Since it seems like you are now making a series of the different types of military units do you ever think you will do the royal engineers?

    • @NamVetBuck
      @NamVetBuck Год назад +1

      " Do enjoy making your mud pies, old man...chin chin " Michael Caine > Zulu movie

  • @joseo.5721
    @joseo.5721 Год назад

    Very interesting, thank you !

  • @marcelkuhne8856
    @marcelkuhne8856 Год назад +1

    You left out the Royal Marines Artillery, but good video. 🙂

  • @coffeemakerNO
    @coffeemakerNO 3 месяца назад +1

    The 2nd part seams to be deleted, I wanna know why they had tophats :(