The music wasn't a last call for help, it was just on a deadman switch that Bill either forgot, or chose not to turn off. As to the timing, the letter was dated at the end of August, and they left about three weeks later, as indicated by the music broadcasting. That means they're within a few days of Joel's birthday/the anniversary of Sarah's death/outbreak day.
Bill & Frank had 17 years of living like kings, compared to everyone else in the world. That's a damn better run than anyone else got. And they went out on their own terms, together. This is a positive story. Bill knew how to survive. Frank knew how to live.
In the game Joel learns from Bill (who is alone and a terrible misanthrope) that you need someone to take care of, to give life meaning. There are clues that him and Frank were together, but nothing that showed it, like here. But the genius of this show is that Joel learns the same thing from Bill here, just in a different way. Brilliant storytelling and heart wrenching.
I just have to THINK of this episode and I get weepy. Such a wonderful surprise on my first watch - a thoughtful, emotional, hopeful, tragic, and brilliant episode tucked into an already incredible series. Good writing (as well as every other facet that goes into making great television/film) is sooooooo important.
While there was a lot of sad parts in this episode remember they did manage to live a long happy life together unbothered for the most part and neither of them ended up getting infected. Technically that makes this a happy ending in a weird way. Masterful storytelling for sure.
If I'm remembering right, I think the shot of the window as Joel and Ellie drive away from Bill and Frank's place is actually the first thing you see when you turn on the game. I don't remember if it was like the title screen or some sort of pre-title screen, but yeah. This is definitely one of the greatest episodes of the show and the one I always look forward to the most when I watch reactions to it. There's one other episode that I think might be better, but I don't wanna spoil which one it is.
You’re right he games loading screen each time you turn it on is a window. On the official podcast they said they had planned on starting every episode with a different window. Just like this shot, but then they realised it didn’t quite work. But left this one in as its a perfect ending (imo)
You have to remember that the world fell apart at the end of September, 2003. Gay marriage wasn't legalized in the US for a couple of months after. They'd never have even been able to consider getting married. Also, the showrunner has said that Frank had a neuromuscular degenerative disease, like MS or ALS. My money's on ALS, based on the symptoms observed.
This episode was a highlight of this whole Season. Also one of the best episodes in television history a real stand out both critically acclaimed, and made a huge impact on audiences. SPOLIERS about Bill from the game: This episode was a departure from the game(but a welcome one nice change). In the game Bill is still alive and meets both Joel and Ellie, and Bill helps them get a truck and supplies and then sends them on there way. Bill is still alive the last time we see him in the game. In the game Bill is gay, and he did have a relationship with Frank. But in the game Frank is already dead we find his dead body in a house. We also find a letter Frank wrote to Bill. They had like a contentious rocky relationship.
The timeline for this episode and the story play out very differently. One of the best examples of why having more time to explain backstory is perfect for TV. If you're not going to play the entire game yourself you could react to the story cutscenes to see the differences.
This was a beautiful episode, my favorite just behind Ep. 8. The sweetest moments for me were the tender moments next to the strawberry patch, and the part when they first went to bed together and Bill was so scared and vulnerable when he told Frank he was basically a virgin. Frank waa so tender ans respectful. I suspect Frank was very secure in his sexuality and was probably out to everyone in his life. Bill likely was not even out to himself.. It's hard for me to understand the perspective if someone who wouldn't be willing to help a terminally ill partner have a peaceful humane death when the alternative would be a long painful death. Frank had ALS or a similar neuromuscular degenerative disease. He couldn't physically end his own life. He was going to die slowly of starvation or suffocation. It waa a beautiful thing to die on their owm terms.
We have a lot of gay representation on tv these days. Its almost always teenage to twenty something, clean shaven, sometimes feminine but mostly model type guys that get to do these stories though. So its such a massive breath of fresh air to get to see middle aged, masculine men portrayed in this type of relationship especially with the fact that they get a happy non bury your gays ending
Yes, Joel knew Frank’s condition as he was the one able to get them the meds Frank needed. It’s too bad you edited out Elli finding the gun, it was an integral part after her trying to get one for so long. Yeah, no matter how many times I watch this episode I bawl my eyes out, non stop.😢
Nick Offerman (Bill) won the Emmy for Guest Actor in a Drama Series, for this episode. Murray Bartlett (Frank) was also nominated in that category.
Both well deserved! Great episode!
Oh, good! If he didn't win something for that amazing performance, I was gonna riot, lolz.
One of my all-time favourite bits of telly.
The music wasn't a last call for help, it was just on a deadman switch that Bill either forgot, or chose not to turn off. As to the timing, the letter was dated at the end of August, and they left about three weeks later, as indicated by the music broadcasting. That means they're within a few days of Joel's birthday/the anniversary of Sarah's death/outbreak day.
Bill & Frank had 17 years of living like kings, compared to everyone else in the world. That's a damn better run than anyone else got. And they went out on their own terms, together. This is a positive story.
Bill knew how to survive. Frank knew how to live.
16 years*
In the game Joel learns from Bill (who is alone and a terrible misanthrope) that you need someone to take care of, to give life meaning. There are clues that him and Frank were together, but nothing that showed it, like here. But the genius of this show is that Joel learns the same thing from Bill here, just in a different way. Brilliant storytelling and heart wrenching.
I just have to THINK of this episode and I get weepy. Such a wonderful surprise on my first watch - a thoughtful, emotional, hopeful, tragic, and brilliant episode tucked into an already incredible series.
Good writing (as well as every other facet that goes into making great television/film) is sooooooo important.
It was so well done and felt so genuine, my heart 💔
While there was a lot of sad parts in this episode remember they did manage to live a long happy life together unbothered for the most part and neither of them ended up getting infected. Technically that makes this a happy ending in a weird way. Masterful storytelling for sure.
If I'm remembering right, I think the shot of the window as Joel and Ellie drive away from Bill and Frank's place is actually the first thing you see when you turn on the game. I don't remember if it was like the title screen or some sort of pre-title screen, but yeah. This is definitely one of the greatest episodes of the show and the one I always look forward to the most when I watch reactions to it. There's one other episode that I think might be better, but I don't wanna spoil which one it is.
You’re right he games loading screen each time you turn it on is a window. On the official podcast they said they had planned on starting every episode with a different window. Just like this shot, but then they realised it didn’t quite work. But left this one in as its a perfect ending (imo)
You have to remember that the world fell apart at the end of September, 2003. Gay marriage wasn't legalized in the US for a couple of months after. They'd never have even been able to consider getting married. Also, the showrunner has said that Frank had a neuromuscular degenerative disease, like MS or ALS. My money's on ALS, based on the symptoms observed.
Yes it's something like MS
This episode was a highlight of this whole Season. Also one of the best episodes in television history a real stand out both critically acclaimed, and made a huge impact on audiences.
SPOLIERS about Bill from the game: This episode was a departure from the game(but a welcome one nice change). In the game Bill is still alive and meets both Joel and Ellie, and Bill helps them get a truck and supplies and then sends them on there way. Bill is still alive the last time we see him in the game. In the game Bill is gay, and he did have a relationship with Frank. But in the game Frank is already dead we find his dead body in a house. We also find a letter Frank wrote to Bill. They had like a contentious rocky relationship.
Cheese and rise, the last video needed a "cheese and rice" counter and this video I think maybe had only one.
I was too busy crying lol
The timeline for this episode and the story play out very differently. One of the best examples of why having more time to explain backstory is perfect for TV. If you're not going to play the entire game yourself you could react to the story cutscenes to see the differences.
And their house was so cute 😭😭
I ❤ your reactions!!!!!
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Ok. Ready to cry. Let’s do this.
I was a crying mess 😭
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Cheese 'n rice. 🧀 🍚 Love it!
This was a beautiful episode, my favorite just behind Ep. 8. The sweetest moments for me were the tender moments next to the strawberry patch, and the part when they first went to bed together and Bill was so scared and vulnerable when he told Frank he was basically a virgin. Frank waa so tender ans respectful. I suspect Frank was very secure in his sexuality and was probably out to everyone in his life. Bill likely was not even out to himself..
It's hard for me to understand the perspective if someone who wouldn't be willing to help a terminally ill partner have a peaceful humane death when the alternative would be a long painful death. Frank had ALS or a similar neuromuscular degenerative disease. He couldn't physically end his own life. He was going to die slowly of starvation or suffocation. It waa a beautiful thing to die on their owm terms.
We have a lot of gay representation on tv these days. Its almost always teenage to twenty something, clean shaven, sometimes feminine but mostly model type guys that get to do these stories though. So its such a massive breath of fresh air to get to see middle aged, masculine men portrayed in this type of relationship especially with the fact that they get a happy non bury your gays ending
15:16 Which one did you mean? That can be taken a couple of ways....
I've seen the whole first season probably 2 or 3 times I've seen this episode at least a dozen
It’s so good, thanks for watching!
Don't worry; it's all kittens and rainbows from here on.
🤣especially Ep 5 and the lighthearted romp that was Ep 8.
You would love Station Eleven
I’ve seen it and really enjoy it! A great show
Great ❤
Yes, Joel knew Frank’s condition as he was the one able to get them the meds Frank needed. It’s too bad you edited out Elli finding the gun, it was an integral part after her trying to get one for so long. Yeah, no matter how many times I watch this episode I bawl my eyes out, non stop.😢
I mean this in the best possible way, this episode is The (Gay) Notebook!
😭How did we so attached it's only Episode 3?!?
Right?! Just a mess 😭