Carlos Manlaw Cho it doesn t really matter if he has it or not. His goal is just to show people whats up. I respect him for that. I own an apollo twin first generation .. if u need to know anything let me know.
I just ordered the Apollo Twin MKII, and I'm looking forward to working with it very much. I just would like to say thank you very much for taking the time out to show some of the ways this unit works. Looking forward to your other tutorial videos.
So glad i got rid of my dbx 286s and focusrite solo (2nd gen) to get the apollo twin mkII coupled with a rode's nt1-a mic, this just took my music quality & mix to another level...thanks bro!
Sold my Scarlett 2i2 for this usb twin. Was a NIGHTMARE to get to work on my laptop and took about 6 hrs of installing and Uninstalling but now it works great. Fkn love this thing now. Sounds amazing
But do you get the same quality? Because if you put the effect after recording your no longer going through the in this case compressor using the unison preamp in the interface, your just adding it on a clean recording “digitally” ... correct me if I’m wrong, I’m also new and I’m trying to understand how it works.
Just bought a Uad Apollo Twin, things a beast! Super, super clean mic pres. My music actully sounds like professionally recorded music. This video really explained a lot about tracking and printing. My question is what happens when you take the plugs-in off after you track through them. Does it change the sound?
Nice! It depends if you recorded with them in monitor or record mode. Monitor you just hear the effects and that's it. But record you print the effects as well. I would use monitor so the artist can use reverb and get a better performance then in the mix I can sculpt the reverb to however I want it
Hey guys just stopping by I had a quick question on this same topic. I just received a Apollo Twin SOLO...I received as a gift! I know I may have trouble with the DSP BUT my question is when I track and print the effects on the track....to save DSP can I remove the effects then record on another track placing those effects one THAT track....then do again and again?
Some people can make a peanut butter sandwich horribly complicated. I like that this video is so basic and straightforward, perfect for the newbie who just wants to get going with their new Apollo and Logic.
Great intro video, thanks!! But I'm confused... if the Aux Channels are for listening, but do not record, what is the purpose of the Aux channels? What is the reason we would set up effects only to listen but not record? Cheers?
I think it’s important to state that the “in the interface” plugin is after the A/D convention. The compressor is digital. It’s on screen and in your computer. It’s not hardware.
I have the ssl 2+, I need monitoring live vocals with effects only, can I do that with the satellite? or I have to have UAD interface for zero latency?
Please someone , how can you do exactly this but on the masterbus ? . Also i dont have the UAD . Is their any other programs like this (like menubus) that work with windows and that it works with the master output before it hits the daw . ?
+Raw Techique Studios important to note that if you have the thunderbolt version you don't need to mute the audio in the Daw. No need to use console at all except for unison. Thunderbolt is fast!
May i ask why you dont put the compressor in the unison insert above where you have put it, sorry but this confuses me. Also when i put an insert onto a Chanel and i go into luna and record and i come back to console the inserts have gone. 🤷🏻
Hey Bro, many thanks. This is most helpful. I have never seen an explanation like this, and let's me know I don't need a front end device-it's built in! Blessings,Bro!
Thank you I did that real verb nice vocal to bear as I'm rapping you the best. Question what's the difference between nice vocal1 an nice vocals2 on the real verb pro?
Hi how do you get source to show monitor? mine shows mix and I cannot hear myself through my headphones when talking through the mic? Great video too. Thanks
is it true there's no latency with the Apollo Twin when you're running an effect via the interface (opposed to running it in your DAW and using software monitoring)?
quick question with doing this if i have auto tune already and not through uad can i still use autotune to monitor or record before placing it in the daw or does it only support the plugins you get from them?
What software are u using to record your screen? And how did you set it up? Am having a problem where my recorded voice stutterers! Can’t seem to figure it out!
So the real question here is what is the advantage to using a compressor before a track is printed into your daw or simply using a plug-in later? Obviously with the plug-in later you can alternate any point at all. So is there any advantage to using the compressor inside the Apollo before the tracks get into your computer?? Thanks!
There are a couple advantages to compression from an outboard compressor or the UAD compresion option. One is you can prevent clipping with outbaord compression but a plugin in the DAW is already stuck with the clipped signal. So an outboard compressor can protect your audio. Another benefit is you get a fatter sound with color (depending on the compressor used) in the recording process. This is based on your taste but I do like compression during recording. It just sounds good. The disadvantages are you are stuck with the compression so if it is too heavy there us no turning back.
How can you record your insert effects, but still want to ONLY HEAR Autotune engaged while recording vocals. (So EQ + compression recorded/printed, but autotune not printed in your take).
Confused the hell out of me.. Your diagram shows the mic plugging into the back of the Apollo. It plugs in the front of mine, am I doing something wrong ?
Great Video! Since the Apollo twin does not have two head phone jacks what solutions would you use to monitor what the artist is signing as well has providing a headphone mix for the artist. That is if you are in a studio that does not have a separate vocal both? Thanks
Richard Grey Richard - I bought a cheap behringer Headphone amp (sorry) and just plug outputs 3/4 into it if I need another heapdhone out. (or 4 headphone outs). Works fine and cost me $20.for the Amp. They are CHEAP. Route the cue mix to 3/4 in the DAW. Done.
Excellent video! This was very helpful! How can I reduce compression with inserts on guitar? I bought an Apollo Twin and have been recording guitar with the XY method with an SM 57 and SE 2200. I use the acoustic guitar inserts, but when I record and play it back, it sounds tinny. What can I do to avoid that over compression?
For XY recording I would use the same mic for the stereo setup. For 2 mics I would just point both at the amp speaker straight on. Try moving them around because directly at the cone and off axis sound different. Then blend to taste. The tinny sound might be phase cancelation
Man by this last week i discovered your channe,l i find myself more and more interested in your tutorials , they just work for me!!! So keep on the good videos , i own myself a satellite quad and was wondering if when i launch let's say a fairchild on a track in pro tools is it still pre computer or is this just a featured embeded in the apollo only??? Thanks in advance for your answer if you get any chance. God Bless.
Thanks for watching and glad you like the videos. The UAD plugins, I think, are all processed on the chip inside of the UAD gear. So they are not processed in the computer. But my video is referring to compression in the recording phase being applied pre computer by bing used inside of the UAD Console.
Thank for your video. I got a problem when I try to record a vocal to Pro Tools listen a mix to sing. The Music track that Sounds in pro tools is printed also in the vocal track I’m recording. I mute the channel but still printing the music track. Do you Have a solution to this? . Thanks!
let me ask you this? if you wanted to, you could print the reverb on that track like you are doing with that compressor and record your vocals into pro tool can you.
I like 24 bit because it has a larger dynamic range. Plus some sources may want a 24 bit version so if you already started there then you are good to go.
@@RawTechniqueStudios Thanks for your help agen, I see a lot of professional engineers using eq on they way in aswel?? Most of the time it's on the high end
@@philipwright2873 I personally wouldn't EQ on the way in. It's too risky. I like to have control over my EQ in the mix so I can always go back and make changes if needed.
Are Renaissance plugins compatible with the apollo. I'm confused about the apollo. I have my favorite plugins I use in protools, and from what I'm seeing, UAD plugins are only being used. I've watched a ton of ur videos where u would work straight out of protools.
Yeah the compressor being pre DAW means you are compressing before it hits the software and it's permanent. Using compression in the DAW you can take off and adjust.
@@RawTechniqueStudios thanks for the reply mate! But this sounds like an disadvantage. I know there is a difference between using the unison preamps while tracking compared to just using them afterward because of impedance. Is there a similar difference for the compressor? Thanks
@@moritzmeyns9285 It can be a saftey net to prevent clipping. If you get loud in 1 part and you didn't leave enough headroom then you would clip. But the compressor will even you out and prevent that. But say you have plenty of headroom and you don't have to worry about clipping then compression on the way in is just a way to control the vocals during recording. Because it is commited to the recording yeah it can be a disadvantage if you mess it up. When I was recording regularly I had a analog compressor and having fat tamed vocals coming into the DAW just helped the mix with a great start. So I guess it is more of a preference.
@@RawTechniqueStudios I know this is old video but hope you'll see this anyway. Is that really the case with with using the compression on the way in with Apollo? I think the main reason is just committing to the sound and using DSP. Because it is an digital compressor plugin and uses the built in dsp, it must work only after the converters? So preamp-->converters->compressor->computer. In that case I don't think you could use a compressor inside Apollo to prevent clipping? 🤔
Great stuff. I think the Apollo Twin is over rated. I’ve had my Apollo Twin for two months now and I just didn’t like the way the mic pres sounded. It’s not warm enough. Before Apollo I was using digi002. For some reason today I decided to run my Rode MTV 2 inside of my AKAI MPCX input and send it into my Protools OMG 😮 I felt like I’ve been took and there was the Milk And honey big round and warm. I’m like ooh damm what the hell is inside of this MPCX. NOW I GOTTA DO MORE TESTING.
Hey buddy can I ask what mic pres did you use? Theres some great ones combined with Onix tape can get really warm feelings. Did you try the Neve or manly Vox box?
Raw Technique Studios sound was warmer and thicker in rec. I'll experiment tomorrow to see if it's true for my setup and maybe even email uad to confirm. Just what my ears perceived
JAY-V Savage I hear ya, but the uad la-2a sounds really good, so does the 1176! I don't think it made much sense to have it sit around, at least that's what I would think.
Its somewhere on UAD forum. Also the UAD Rec/Mon button only bypasses post AD signals. The unison slot is always recorded in DAW. Doesn't affect the workflow tho - just make sure that the output from Unison pre isn't in the red. The only plugin that compresses before AD as far as I'm aware is the Manley VoxBox
Yes. UNISON is the only time where the plugins "Physically" change the actual Pre Amps. Though the plugs in the other slots are so nice and use the UAD CPU's that it's well worth using. But for altering the input - only UNISON (hiZ/Line/Mic 1-2). Cheers! enjoy your purchase. I am!
Hello In this process, when I use compressor before computer in record mode its possible to have clip (red) signal on mic input ? Because this is happens to me when I have to record somebody whit strong voice even if I turn the mic pre level down its steel clipping. Thanks
I would add reverb in the DAW so you can change it later. But put a reverb on a AUX track then send your vocals via a bus to that AUX track to hear it run through reverb.
Here the trick with uad sound cards, now, try to do a punch, you have to setup a virtual channel for playback, with same aux send setup. oh but wait what if you had music playing back, it would get all the reverb too. no problem just sent up another virtual channel, but wait not its not mixed in the main out, no problem, make a dupilicate reverb on playback track. actually all of this is a problem, a big pain in the a$$. and thats why its not practicle. and why they had to make there own daw. now in luna this gets solved, but if your using any other daw, all i have to say is your going to get good at routing and wasting time.
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despite how old this video is you've just explained everything I've been wondering about the Apollo for years. shits crazy
Awesome! Glad it helped
instablaster
Solid brief lesson. Looking forward for more. Thanks for the help!
brah! i never knew that you had to mute the audio track in protools to get rid of double signal! wow! thank you for the video helped out a lot!
I really admire the fact that you are sharing your knowledge .. great stuff man
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching.
Raw Technique Studios I would like to link up to you.
Cool, if you need mixing or just need to email me my website has all that info. rawtechniquestudios.com
Raw Technique Studios ok. Thnx. I will contact u soon. Bogdan Ioan is my name.
Carlos Manlaw Cho it doesn t really matter if he has it or not. His goal is just to show people whats up. I respect him for that. I own an apollo twin first generation .. if u need to know anything let me know.
I just ordered the Apollo Twin MKII, and I'm looking forward to working with it very much. I just would like to say thank you very much for taking the time out to show some of the ways this unit works. Looking forward to your other tutorial videos.
Awesome! Have fun with it!
So glad i got rid of my dbx 286s and focusrite solo (2nd gen) to get the apollo twin mkII coupled with a rode's nt1-a mic, this just took my music quality & mix to another level...thanks bro!
Awesome!
Lol bro i have the 286s and focusrite 2i2 and thinking of doing the same thing
just ordered me one, how is yours holding up so far.?
Some of the best tutorials on RUclips are from this channel. Thank you, man!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Excellent tutorial...Perfect examples and illustration.
Thanks! Glad it helps
One of the best tutorials ever.i just ordered a Apollo mk2 because of you.So long focus rite.
Cool!
Sold my Scarlett 2i2 for this usb twin. Was a NIGHTMARE to get to work on my laptop and took about 6 hrs of installing and Uninstalling but now it works great. Fkn love this thing now. Sounds amazing
Glad it worked out!
best teacher hands up. thanks Shawn hope all is good with the family and the new studio setup
Appreciate that! And yes all good
Got this two weeks ago, still learning but I think it’s nice u can use effects pre record and after. That’s a game changer plus the late latency
But do you get the same quality? Because if you put the effect after recording your no longer going through the in this case compressor using the unison preamp in the interface, your just adding it on a clean recording “digitally” ... correct me if I’m wrong, I’m also new and I’m trying to understand how it works.
@@Akopalips yes u get the same quality it’s quite nice
@@Samsonmanase oh so Nice, Thanks bro 🙏🏾
I am thinking of getting it... I am PC user so I think I will get the USB version...…definitely helpful mate.....thanks
i was wondering it offered this. thanks for sharing!
You clarified a lot about my UAD hardware. I have an Apollo 8 Quad & a Twin Duo. Thanks.
Glad it helped!
Just bought a Uad Apollo Twin, things a beast! Super, super clean mic pres. My music actully sounds like professionally recorded music. This video really explained a lot about tracking and printing. My question is what happens when you take the plugs-in off after you track through them. Does it change the sound?
Nice! It depends if you recorded with them in monitor or record mode. Monitor you just hear the effects and that's it. But record you print the effects as well. I would use monitor so the artist can use reverb and get a better performance then in the mix I can sculpt the reverb to however I want it
@@RawTechniqueStudios ah, ok. Gotcha. Thank you again. Love the video, can you make more videos on using the routing on the Apollo.
Hey guys just stopping by I had a quick question on this same topic. I just received a Apollo Twin SOLO...I received as a gift! I know I may have trouble with the DSP BUT my question is when I track and print the effects on the track....to save DSP can I remove the effects then record on another track placing those effects one THAT track....then do again and again?
Best info yet Made my decision and subbed you are awesome
🙌 awesome
Some people can make a peanut butter sandwich horribly complicated. I like that this video is so basic and straightforward, perfect for the newbie who just wants to get going with their new Apollo and Logic.
Thanks for watching Mark!
Thank you. I know that printing the effects while monitoring a reverb is a basic question... maybe that's why nobody else answered it so clearly.
Thank you!!
Great intro video, thanks!! But I'm confused... if the Aux Channels are for listening, but do not record, what is the purpose of the Aux channels? What is the reason we would set up effects only to listen but not record? Cheers?
We need one with a two track and rap vocals with hook and adlibs that would be a great help from start to finish
I second that motion
Thank you for sharing your awesome! video ....your video was so helpful
Excellent tutorial. Very thorough ..
Very clear explanation, great job
Thanks!
Thanks that was REALLY helpful. Very well described and great tutorial.
Thank you
That is a very good point! Thx for this.
Thanks for watching!
Super helpful video!
Very good explanation. Thank You.
The apollo twin mkii is insane, especially the quad core.... UAD plugs are also incredible
SHI Mastering Compressor 🏅
I have to check that comp out!
this is a very valuable video thank you for this simple and clear video and thank you for getting to the point :) usually, nobody does.
Glad it helped!
I think it’s important to state that the “in the interface” plugin is after the A/D convention. The compressor is digital. It’s on screen and in your computer. It’s not hardware.
@Debjit Roy Chowdhury How can this be? There's no hardware compressor in the Twin,
Yeah that ApolloW twin is really great haha
Don't forget to set the mix on the reverb to 100%
Lmfao
But what do I do on the pro tools side? Every time I export the song I hear the vocals without the effects on the rendered mp3
UAD power....thanks ...
I have the ssl 2+, I need monitoring live vocals with effects only, can I do that with the satellite? or I have to have UAD interface for zero latency?
Please someone , how can you do exactly this but on the masterbus ? .
Also i dont have the UAD . Is their any other programs like this (like menubus) that work with windows and that it works with the master output before it hits the daw . ?
thank you man for the easy explanation
No problem, glad it helped
+Raw Techique Studios important to note that if you have the thunderbolt version you don't need to mute the audio in the Daw. No need to use console at all except for unison. Thunderbolt is fast!
May i ask why you dont put the compressor in the unison insert above where you have put it, sorry but this confuses me. Also when i put an insert onto a Chanel and i go into luna and record and i come back to console the inserts have gone. 🤷🏻
to pick up the reverb you would just select the console's aux out as the daw input.
Very knowledgeable 👍🏽
I know you're not recording it but the reverb on Aux 1 should be set to 100% wet if using as a send
Great content mate
thanks
This is my exact setup 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I’m giving out hugs, so just hug me back
Nice! Virtual hug has been sent
Raw Technique Studios 🙏🏼💪🏼🔥 appreciate it 🤘🏽
Good video
Hey Bro, many thanks. This is most helpful. I have never seen an explanation like this, and let's me know I don't need a front end device-it's built in! Blessings,Bro!
nice video! how are you getting such clean and loud vocals without background noise or hiss
Thanks. Just using a decent mic and recording at a good level (around -12db)
The only problem is that the compression process hapens after the AD converter and not before. Anyway better than nothing.
Thank you I did that real verb nice vocal to bear as I'm rapping you the best.
Question what's the difference between nice vocal1 an nice vocals2 on the real verb pro?
Nice! I haven't used the presets much on that reverb so I haven't looked at the differences. Probably room size, timing, stuff like that.
Is this the solo or the duo? ? If I buy the solo, can I mix and master a song? Or do I have to get the duo?
DJ Promethazine it's the duo but the solo works also. Duo just has more power.
Hi how do you get source to show monitor? mine shows mix and I cannot hear myself through my headphones when talking through the mic? Great video too. Thanks
Im trying to see what you mean but still not sure. I just switch to headphone on my Apollo and the level came through fine.
I’m having the same exact problem.. no output monitor source
is it true there's no latency with the Apollo Twin when you're running an effect via the interface (opposed to running it in your DAW and using software monitoring)?
Noiseheads I don't record much but I have never had any latency when adding a effectbinnthe UAD console
What if you want to use autotune in pro tools when ur recording in. Is it possible to monitor through pro tools and the console app?
quick question with doing this if i have auto tune already and not through uad can i still use autotune to monitor or record before placing it in the daw or does it only support the plugins you get from them?
How do you record with the reverb as well?
Does it have to be UAD plugins? Can I insert a Waves compressor plugin into the Apollo Daw?
I believe it has to be the UAD plugin
Raw Technique Studios Damn that sucks, thank you
How much cumpresion do you do bro ? Fro like hip hop maybe 3 to 5 reduction
Depends on the vocal. Sometimes I hit it with 3 compressors then a mix bus comp.
What software are u using to record your screen? And how did you set it up? Am having a problem where my recorded voice stutterers! Can’t seem to figure it out!
So the real question here is what is the advantage to using a compressor before a track is printed into your daw or simply using a plug-in later? Obviously with the plug-in later you can alternate any point at all. So is there any advantage to using the compressor inside the Apollo before the tracks get into your computer?? Thanks!
There are a couple advantages to compression from an outboard compressor or the UAD compresion option. One is you can prevent clipping with outbaord compression but a plugin in the DAW is already stuck with the clipped signal. So an outboard compressor can protect your audio. Another benefit is you get a fatter sound with color (depending on the compressor used) in the recording process. This is based on your taste but I do like compression during recording. It just sounds good. The disadvantages are you are stuck with the compression so if it is too heavy there us no turning back.
Can recording with plugins be done inside of pro tools
if so how would it typically be done
You can record while plugins are on the inserts. But it isn't permanent. You can always adjust or remove later.
How can you record your insert effects, but still want to ONLY HEAR Autotune engaged while recording vocals. (So EQ + compression recorded/printed, but autotune not printed in your take).
I have never done that but if you want you can have a real time tuner in your DAW insert and the EQ and Comp in console to print
Confused the hell out of me.. Your diagram shows the mic plugging into the back
of the Apollo. It plugs in the front of mine, am I doing something wrong ?
Wherever your mic input is will be where the mic goes. On the apollo twin it is in the back.
Great Video! Since the Apollo twin does not have two head phone jacks what solutions would you use to monitor what the artist is signing as well has providing a headphone mix for the artist. That is if you are in a studio that does not have a separate vocal both? Thanks
You can use a headphone amp going output 3-4. That is how I used to do it on my old interface.
Richard Grey Richard - I bought a cheap behringer Headphone amp (sorry) and just plug outputs 3/4 into it if I need another heapdhone out. (or 4 headphone outs). Works fine and cost me $20.for the Amp. They are CHEAP. Route the cue mix to 3/4 in the DAW. Done.
Helo.can we gat perfact mix whit logic pro and Apollo interfaces ??
Yes you can!
Excellent video! This was very helpful! How can I reduce compression with inserts on guitar? I bought an Apollo Twin and have been recording guitar with the XY method with an SM 57 and SE 2200. I use the acoustic guitar inserts, but when I record and play it back, it sounds tinny. What can I do to avoid that over compression?
For XY recording I would use the same mic for the stereo setup. For 2 mics I would just point both at the amp speaker straight on. Try moving them around because directly at the cone and off axis sound different. Then blend to taste. The tinny sound might be phase cancelation
Man by this last week i discovered your channe,l i find myself more and more interested in your tutorials , they just work for me!!! So keep on the good videos , i own myself a satellite quad and was wondering if when i launch let's say a fairchild on a track in pro tools is it still pre computer or is this just a featured embeded in the apollo only???
Thanks in advance for your answer if you get any chance. God Bless.
Thanks for watching and glad you like the videos. The UAD plugins, I think, are all processed on the chip inside of the UAD gear. So they are not processed in the computer. But my video is referring to compression in the recording phase being applied pre computer by bing used inside of the UAD Console.
What level should you record hip-hop vocals at, -12 or -18 using the twin?
Yeah somewhere in that range. It leaves plenty of headroom when mixing.
Thank for your video. I got a problem when I try to record a vocal to Pro Tools listen a mix to sing. The Music track that Sounds in pro tools is printed also in the vocal track I’m recording. I mute the channel but still printing the music track. Do you Have a solution to this? . Thanks!
The microphone is picking it up and you are getting bleed. You should record with headphone that are closed so they don't leak out into the mic.
Raw Technique Studios yes, I do, the problem is that the signal of the playback track on pro tools is also printed on the mic signal I’m recording
Why does it still have that double/phased sound when you're recording?
Because I'm using screen flow at the same time to film the video.
Should I get an arrow? Would the auto tune be on time even though my computer is on the slower side?
Not sure what a arrow is?
let me ask you this? if you wanted to, you could print the reverb on that track like you are doing with that compressor and record your vocals into pro tool can you.
Yeah you can print reverb as well. The setup allows you to print or just monitor with effects.
Cool video man, could you do video on how to set the levels to record rap vocals with the unison preamp insert ?
Thanks. It would be the same as any preamp. Just try to stay in the -18 to -12db range on average.
cheer bro, I'm using the Apollo twin and im confused if I should record my vocals in 16 bit or 24 ? @@RawTechniqueStudios
I like 24 bit because it has a larger dynamic range. Plus some sources may want a 24 bit version so if you already started there then you are good to go.
@@RawTechniqueStudios Thanks for your help agen, I see a lot of professional engineers using eq on they way in aswel?? Most of the time it's on the high end
@@philipwright2873 I personally wouldn't EQ on the way in. It's too risky. I like to have control over my EQ in the mix so I can always go back and make changes if needed.
Apollo need to hire you ASAP.
That would be cool lol
If you use UAD record would you then have Total Recall of all plugins in the apollo?
Yeah you can save your setup in the Console is you use the same settings each time you record.
Are Renaissance plugins compatible with the apollo. I'm confused about the apollo. I have my favorite plugins I use in protools, and from what I'm seeing, UAD plugins are only being used. I've watched a ton of ur videos where u would work straight out of protools.
The Apollo is what the UAD plugins run off of. But you can still use all your other plugins that run off of your computer.
I can't see my Virtual 3/4 Strips in my Console App did you know why?
You can look in your I/O but mine also isn't showing in console right now either. But you don't need that for recording using the analog 1 input
interesting, is there a difference between recording with the compressor or just adding it later on?
Yeah the compressor being pre DAW means you are compressing before it hits the software and it's permanent. Using compression in the DAW you can take off and adjust.
@@RawTechniqueStudios thanks for the reply mate! But this sounds like an disadvantage. I know there is a difference between using the unison preamps while tracking compared to just using them afterward because of impedance. Is there a similar difference for the compressor? Thanks
@@moritzmeyns9285 It can be a saftey net to prevent clipping. If you get loud in 1 part and you didn't leave enough headroom then you would clip. But the compressor will even you out and prevent that. But say you have plenty of headroom and you don't have to worry about clipping then compression on the way in is just a way to control the vocals during recording. Because it is commited to the recording yeah it can be a disadvantage if you mess it up. When I was recording regularly I had a analog compressor and having fat tamed vocals coming into the DAW just helped the mix with a great start. So I guess it is more of a preference.
@@RawTechniqueStudios I know this is old video but hope you'll see this anyway. Is that really the case with with using the compression on the way in with Apollo? I think the main reason is just committing to the sound and using DSP. Because it is an digital compressor plugin and uses the built in dsp, it must work only after the converters? So preamp-->converters->compressor->computer. In that case I don't think you could use a compressor inside Apollo to prevent clipping? 🤔
@@villehaavisto6060 yeah you are correct. I must had got the order mixed up.
Great stuff. I think the Apollo Twin is over rated. I’ve had my Apollo Twin for two months now and I just didn’t like the way the mic pres sounded. It’s not warm enough. Before Apollo I was using digi002. For some reason today I decided to run my Rode MTV 2 inside of my AKAI MPCX input and send it into my Protools OMG 😮 I felt like I’ve been took and there was the Milk And honey big round and warm. I’m like ooh damm what the hell is inside of this MPCX. NOW I GOTTA DO MORE TESTING.
Hey buddy can I ask what mic pres did you use? Theres some great ones combined with Onix tape can get really warm feelings. Did you try the Neve or manly Vox box?
Tris deRos No I don’t own them not just yet. I’m saving funds. And I’m planning getting a bundle soon. Thanks.
in my headphones it actually sounds slightly different when you switch between rec & mon...
Interesting. How so?
Raw Technique Studios sound was warmer and thicker in rec. I'll experiment tomorrow to see if it's true for my setup and maybe even email uad to confirm. Just what my ears perceived
much respects brother... ever use logic ? would be dope for a video on tips for logic !! thank for the knowledge!
I used it when version 9 was out but I haven't tried 10
How is that interface is it worth the price
I like it. Been worth it for me.
sorry for late reply is the quality better then the persons usb is there a big difference
Did you go as crazy as I did with the UAD Plugins during the 12 Days of Christmas sale?
No, I bought some isotope plugins and Reason 10.
Izotope
Carlos Manlaw Cho but on his other videos an on his gram you see his room with the twin
I could give two shits whether or not he has it but why wouldn't he? THIS IS HOW IT WORKS.
Why not keep the outboard compressor you had for more options
JAY-V Savage I hear ya, but the uad la-2a sounds really good, so does the 1176!
I don't think it made much sense to have it sit around, at least that's what I would think.
The new interface doesn't have sends and returns and I didn't want to buy another external preamp so the UAD compressors are the best option for me.
Raw Technique Studios Hi Shaun, your Apollo Twin, it only has 2 in, 2 out?
It has main outs and 2 line outs. Only has 2 inputs though.
Raw Technique what about optical? Can't you add 8 in/out?
rec with 2 mics same time?
You can but if recording in mono and only 1 person I recommend just 1 mic.
I would have kept the outboard compressor. (Unless it was a cheap compressor that didn't sound good) I would rather use outboard gear then plugins.
It was a cheaper compressor (ART Pro VLA 2)
This video is incorrect. Only plugins added in the unison slot on Apollo are pre AD converters.
Where did you read this? I would like to confirm.
Its somewhere on UAD forum. Also the UAD Rec/Mon button only bypasses post AD signals. The unison slot is always recorded in DAW. Doesn't affect the workflow tho - just make sure that the output from Unison pre isn't in the red.
The only plugin that compresses before AD as far as I'm aware is the Manley VoxBox
Okay I will look around. Thanks for the heads up.
Yes. UNISON is the only time where the plugins "Physically" change the actual Pre Amps. Though the plugs in the other slots are so nice and use the UAD CPU's
that it's well worth using. But for altering the input - only UNISON (hiZ/Line/Mic 1-2). Cheers! enjoy your purchase. I am!
Hello
In this process, when I use compressor before computer in record mode its possible to have clip (red) signal on mic input ? Because this is happens to me when I have to record somebody whit strong voice even if I turn the mic pre level down its steel clipping.
Thanks
Yeah you can clip, try turning down the compressors input so you aren't adding level just compression.
Thank you !
You spelled Apollo incorrectly
Thakns, I will change it
what pro-tools version
I am using pro tools 11
@@RawTechniqueStudios is it compatible with hd pro tools ?
@@MrERLucas as long as you are using UAD hardware then it works
how do I record with reverb
I would add reverb in the DAW so you can change it later. But put a reverb on a AUX track then send your vocals via a bus to that AUX track to hear it run through reverb.
i want to ask you something,would you ever consider using a hardware mic preamp with your apollo twin.
Yeah I would consider it if I recorded more often
Here the trick with uad sound cards, now, try to do a punch, you have to setup a virtual channel for playback, with same aux send setup. oh but wait what if you had music playing back, it would get all the reverb too. no problem just sent up another virtual channel, but wait not its not mixed in the main out, no problem, make a dupilicate reverb on playback track. actually all of this is a problem, a big pain in the a$$. and thats why its not practicle. and why they had to make there own daw. now in luna this gets solved, but if your using any other daw, all i have to say is your going to get good at routing and wasting time.
He said the same thing for half the video ..buddy c’mon already