Wildcat’s Revenge Structural Analysis Deep Dive - Hersheypark's New 2023 Roller Coaster!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @TigerRogersOfficial
    @TigerRogersOfficial Год назад +191

    Out of all the major coaster channels, you’re the only one who really dives into the technical aspects of rides, and I love it. Keep ‘em coming

    • @Abcdefgx-u9g
      @Abcdefgx-u9g Год назад +1

      Woooooooooooooow you calling out airtime thrills chris???? Better knock that shit off. Hashtag #️⃣ freespohie!!!!!!

    • @TigerRogersOfficial
      @TigerRogersOfficial Год назад

      @@Abcdefgx-u9g I love his stuff. It’s just not quite as detailed as Ryan’s

    • @armadyllcrown
      @armadyllcrown Год назад

      I mean, there is a channel "coaster bot". It may not go into incredible detail but it does explain everything in a easily digestible format.

  • @DeadRabbit5
    @DeadRabbit5 Год назад +26

    I'm designing an assembly line for GM's new/overhauled EV plant up in Lake Orion, Michigan. You would not believe how many kips I have supported by a cantilevered 12x40 beam, but even I am still surprised by how much RMC is putting on a cantilevered wood structure. I'm sure they got this dialed in and everything of course too.

    • @Mister_Brown
      @Mister_Brown Год назад +1

      realize the forces on that cantilevered section are actually up and to the right putting the whole structure in tension or at worst close to 1g loading if a train somehow gets stuck there

  • @NorthernRidesYaBoi
    @NorthernRidesYaBoi Год назад +90

    I could listen to Ryan explain how a pen worked for an hour and still be entertained

    • @louiselanthier5135
      @louiselanthier5135 Год назад +3

      He has a nice voice and more!

    • @michaelfoland2007
      @michaelfoland2007 Год назад +3

      I always love hearing him talk about the Block Zones :) I'd love to hear some on dispatching as well!!!

    • @madeintexas3d442
      @madeintexas3d442 Год назад +1

      Fantastic April fools day video.

    • @simonbooth1581
      @simonbooth1581 Год назад +2

      @@michaelfoland2007 yes, hearing all of the math with riders per hour is my favorite ambient noise and it’s really interesting

  • @CoasterObsessed
    @CoasterObsessed Год назад +51

    Only ElToroRyan can make a video about structure analysis and it still be good.

    • @Starlit43
      @Starlit43 Год назад

      I made one. Are you calling me boring?😭😭😭

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 Год назад +3

      Would've been better if the video included a brief explanation of what a block zone is.

    • @dallasgibson7578
      @dallasgibson7578 Год назад

      @@gregorymoore2877 I actually lol'd lol

  • @jzckvsn
    @jzckvsn Год назад +14

    Super hyped for Wildcats Revenge! The layout looks great for a 140 foot RMC

  • @GranolaGaylord
    @GranolaGaylord Год назад +4

    I am sincerely thrilled to listen to you nerd out. I have no background for understanding this stuff, and yet you explain it in such a digestible and interesting way. That's not a skill everybody has!

  • @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
    @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Год назад +2

    2:15 IS IT JUST ME, OR DID ELTORORYAN DROP US A CRAZY BAR RIGHT THERE :D

  • @rctlimit
    @rctlimit Год назад +2

    From a fellow structural engineer, it's great to see this more technical side of coasters than most other channels. Keep up the great work!

  • @corkscrewfoley
    @corkscrewfoley Год назад +5

    Ryan, I love these videos when you do them, especially you explaining anything structurally. This goes up there with Chris' 'By The Numbers.' Well done, mang.

  • @brianschulz7833
    @brianschulz7833 Год назад +1

    The double bracing is something I’ve always noticed on Goliath’s (SFGAm) dive loop, but couldn’t discern why it seemed different from other wooden coaster structures. It’s nice to have an explanation! Illuminating video all around.

  • @OpGod-sx8lw
    @OpGod-sx8lw Год назад +6

    Great vid! I rlly love how they engineered the structure for this ride and its good to know I’m not the only one lol, i love how theres a mix of steel and wooden support columns, how they blend perfectly and how you can see where the original drop was on the ride. It kinda feels like its preserving it in a way.

  • @dustind4099
    @dustind4099 Год назад

    Awesome video! As a mechanical engineer, I really enjoy your perspective on coasters as a civil guy and learning more about the structure

  • @itsrobloxhere
    @itsrobloxhere Год назад +1

    cant wait to see you talk about its block zones

  • @nycomet
    @nycomet Год назад +1

    Hey there El Toro Ryan. Great video and great analysis.
    Your video revealed quite a bit of structural details that I had never noticed or saw in other Wildcat’s Revenge (WCR) construction videos on RUclips.
    Hersheypark’s ride animation for WCR seems somewhat tame to me, although it does depict very fast pacing. In the animation parts of the ride layout seems stretched out. Some moments appear to reveal “missed opportunities” for pops of airtime.
    That being said, the layout reflects exactly what Hersheypark wants WCR to be. Some coaster enthusiasts seem to think RMC determines the layout of the converted coaster. I’m sure RMC offers suggestions to the park, but in the end the park decides the intensity of the conversion - as well as the final design approval.
    When I look at videos and photos of the actual transformation of WMC, I am noticing that the completed track work is much more tight and intense compared to the same sections of track as seen on the animation.
    This excites me because it appears that WCR will be much more intense than the animation suggests.
    Is it possible that Hersheypark intentionally released a “tame” WCR animation video? When in reality the actual layout will be much more intense than what the park released in the animation?
    My eyes see a much more intense layout in the RMC track work to date. The real track seems to be much more tight than on the animation video. I hope this trend continues as new RMC track continues to be installed on WCR. Time will tell!
    Thanks again for your videos. Keep up the excellent work! 💪🏽🏆

  • @coasterographer
    @coasterographer Год назад +1

    Awesome video! It's fascinating to see new building techniques that RMC has learned over the years being applied, like the steel supports.

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept Год назад

    I like nerding out about the structure, design and function of rides as well, big reason I subscribed to this channel (and then there's your vlogs which are just funny SuperVinlin )

  • @nathanlamoreaux1272
    @nathanlamoreaux1272 Год назад +1

    As a roller coaster enthusiast who also has a civil engineering degree, I love your videos man. So much fun to watch and so interesting. Keep it up!!!

  • @maxmustermann6612
    @maxmustermann6612 Год назад +1

    I don't know as much about the different style of supports so learning something new is fantastic!

  • @Tortidis987
    @Tortidis987 Год назад +2

    Dang this video almost makes me excited for an RMC

  • @josiahsimmons9866
    @josiahsimmons9866 Год назад +2

    "And a good amount of the wooden superstructure" When you said this, I was able to understand what you were saying thanks to the breakdown you did of El Toro's substructure problem! In that video, I believe you explained the difference between the substructure and the superstructure.
    Because I understood that, it made this video super entertaining to me!

  • @bigrob029
    @bigrob029 Год назад

    that was great! certainly looking forward to Wildcat's block brakes breakdown.

  • @Heifer2997
    @Heifer2997 Год назад

    A separate load and unload seem really smart for RMC restraints. Many RMCs actually have decently quick intervals, but the loading and unloading with those restraints are not optimal.

  • @sethmoyer
    @sethmoyer Год назад

    I loved Wildcat's layout and I wish they could have saved it, but at the same time I'm really excited for Wildcat's Revenge. I was able to snag a piece of wood from Wildcat with the logos of both coasters burned into it. I wish I had been able to ride Wildcat last summer before they closed it, but I was busy doing other stuff when I was in the area.

  • @bluediamondcoasters
    @bluediamondcoasters Год назад

    I was on that same tour. I asked them about loose articles and they said they won’t be allowed on the ride, not even in pouches like on Gwazi. So it’ll be how SteVe and Twisted Timbers operate.

  • @wellokayyes1266
    @wellokayyes1266 Год назад

    The dense and complex structures remind me of cathedrals.

  • @F4billionyearzag0
    @F4billionyearzag0 Год назад +1

    It looks really complex. Like it would be complicated to mix the old with the new. You would think it would be easier just to knock the whole thing down and start from a clean slate. By building a new one from the ground up. But this engineering job looks impressive 👏

  • @tonyweachock1227
    @tonyweachock1227 Год назад +1

    The walkways on the original first drop are staying. I made sure to ask about that on the tour (went with the first group). It is a nice little detail to see the difference! Can’t wait to see the pacing of this coaster.

  • @kittxkarnage
    @kittxkarnage Год назад

    Oh my god. it gives me flash backs of childhood. Visually it looks a lot like Son of Beast at King's Island.

    • @kittxkarnage
      @kittxkarnage Год назад

      I never got to ride Son of Beast, but just remember being at King's Island, looking up at it as like a 10 year old kid and the impact it had visually. it was such a massive and impressive structure. This coaster looks AMAZING! I rode the original coaster, actually a super fun ride!

  • @SwiftGlitchers
    @SwiftGlitchers Год назад

    Nice video I was always a coaster nerd now I sit in my cube and do structural analysis on bridges all day lmao

  • @jricedrums
    @jricedrums Год назад

    This video is amazing! I love this deep dive into the structure of the ride! This is my type of coaster content!

  • @meef1610
    @meef1610 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @austintayloradt
    @austintayloradt Год назад

    Hopefully New Dragster gets the double sided lockers, the old system was a pain, especially with where the exit was in relation to the entrance - another thing that I hope they fix

  • @syrax101
    @syrax101 Год назад

    Vivid memories of this coaster… This vid is 🔥🔥🔥 Hope to ride the new version!

  • @KimRehley
    @KimRehley Год назад

    Very cool!! I'll be there to try it out! I live in NJ not too far. I've been going to Hershey since I was barely tall enough to ride the big rides! Last summer, on July 4th was my last ride on Wildcat, and it was a bit painful, and I felt it wasn't a fun ride anymore...

  • @The_MenraC
    @The_MenraC Год назад

    Finally an RMC Hybrid actually close to me-My New Jerseyan thoughts on Wildcat’s Revenge

  • @michaelfoland2007
    @michaelfoland2007 Год назад

    While I live in Florida, I think that is an AMAZING RMC coaster! I'd love to see more RMC's like that :) Keep up the great content man!

  • @dylanmeyer72
    @dylanmeyer72 Год назад

    As an engineering student, your videos are amazing. Keep up the great content my man!

  • @shawnrw3727
    @shawnrw3727 Год назад

    This is 1000x better than airtime thrills 😂

  • @corybourrier9722
    @corybourrier9722 Год назад

    ElToroRyan always killin it with these incredibly informative videos 😎 💪

  • @scottyjbd
    @scottyjbd Год назад

    🤓🤓🤓 Class is in session!! Yet again, another fantastic video, and it would seem you might be able to do a Part 2 or even Part 3 as more construction on this coaster is completed. Keep ‘em comin!! I feel like I might have a Degree in Engineering in my future if you keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @1and289
    @1and289 Год назад

    So exited to ride this in the summer

  • @collinparsons3363
    @collinparsons3363 Год назад

    I have a civil engineering degree too, so I like this type of video. I had no idea that this would have 3 trains and a separate unload station. Does any other RMC have wheel heaters? I've seen them on other coasters, but never on an RMC before.

  • @donkeyentertain
    @donkeyentertain Год назад

    Another benefit of the staggered ribbons is that it looks cheaper to install, as you don’t have to cut the ribbons to the proper length.

  • @xavierbu
    @xavierbu Год назад

    The million dollar question is...Did Hershey park keep the seals that work the final brake run?

  • @TheAlfredapple
    @TheAlfredapple Год назад

    When I clicked on this video, I was like “huh weird use of the words structural analysis, I’m sure he means layout analysis” and then no, it actually was structural analysis! Coming from an engineer, I’m pleased to hear your excellent vocabulary when describing the engineering behind the structures. Great work! Not sure if you went to school for engineering, but I’d believe it!

  • @GerryRR
    @GerryRR Год назад

    Seems like HersheyPark said "we don't want that rickety stuff you usually build" lol

  • @raymondmoderski3216
    @raymondmoderski3216 Год назад

    Ryan, why are you not designing new coasters? Go for it guy. RM

  • @JakeBrickmobile
    @JakeBrickmobile Год назад

    love the videos! keep em commin

  • @Shredxcam22
    @Shredxcam22 Год назад

    If there is a super structure. Is there a super duper structure ?

  • @myopnonmusic5525
    @myopnonmusic5525 Год назад +1

    going there this june, hoping it will be open by then

  • @stingray1irwin0
    @stingray1irwin0 Год назад

    How did I not know you have a civil engineering degree... Bro you gotta hook up with the "well there's your problem" podcast for an episode on coaster accidents

  • @Cheese2026.
    @Cheese2026. Год назад +1

    Ryan it’s air-ee

  • @mpf1947
    @mpf1947 Год назад

    When you say RMC trains are heavy, is that just heavy in comparison to Millennium Flyers or are they also heavy when compared to Wildcat's original PTC trains?

  • @ThemeParksToTheMax
    @ThemeParksToTheMax Год назад

    Cool!

  • @djavatar68
    @djavatar68 Год назад

    Oh boy , another deep dive analysis from the "expert".

  • @gaminglisttjsmwithdogs
    @gaminglisttjsmwithdogs Год назад

    I thought I had a glitch on my phone in 2:04

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay Год назад

    This will be a very windy coaster

  • @sumguy8
    @sumguy8 Год назад

    rate of speed is redundant. Speed is a rate. Otherwise great vid!

  • @bobbybasketball1999
    @bobbybasketball1999 Год назад

    RIP wildcat almost as much street cred as mean streak

  • @chrisgardiner2215
    @chrisgardiner2215 Год назад

    ElToroRyan you are a civil engineer? So have you ever had to factor in the earth's curvature on any project?

  • @davefroman4700
    @davefroman4700 Год назад

    Totally agree that Wildcats Revenge is going to make AF1 look lame.

  • @NorthEastCoasters
    @NorthEastCoasters Год назад

    Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd!!!

  • @subzerofromny735
    @subzerofromny735 Год назад

    I guess this is proof that wooden coasters are now obsolete and should all be turned into steel conversions

    • @SchlappyMB
      @SchlappyMB Год назад

      Certainly nearly every remaining Summers & Dinn should be, along with a bunch of GCI's too. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with Phoenix, Lightning Racer, etc etc...

  • @human8483
    @human8483 Год назад

    comment for algorithm. ty for the content.

  • @zelowatch30
    @zelowatch30 Год назад +1

    Aren't wooden coasters intended to be painful?

    • @JakeBrickmobile
      @JakeBrickmobile Год назад

      only at canadas wonderland

    • @ThrillsofColdplay
      @ThrillsofColdplay Год назад

      Old ones yes but these are hybrid coasters

    • @GerryRR
      @GerryRR Год назад

      Lol no that's just an excuse for poor workmanship/design/cheapness.

    • @zelowatch30
      @zelowatch30 Год назад

      @@GerryRR El Toro is a great example of well thought coaster with good engineering. It's smooth and still gives you a wooden coaster feel.

  • @superamusinggg
    @superamusinggg Год назад

    the GA lockers gotta go... should've just installed the double sided ones to begin with 😩

    • @MrMatteNWk
      @MrMatteNWk Год назад

      But where's the profit in that??

  • @daishionhoward
    @daishionhoward Год назад

    being the 1000th like >>>

  • @ARichardson4310
    @ARichardson4310 Год назад

    Ya

  • @rossh688
    @rossh688 Год назад

    Unfortunately, it's not going to be as pretty as Wildcat was. It looks like it should be in Epic Universe's classic monsters land as Frankenstein. Lol

  • @AVdE10000
    @AVdE10000 Год назад

    Super interesting video, but I have to respectfully disagree on the structure looking good aesthetically. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to ride an RMC yet (I was planning a trip to the US this year, but can't go through with it; super sad) so I won't comment on the quality, but good lord do I think they look uuuuuugly 🤣

  • @coasterodyssey
    @coasterodyssey Год назад

    95th!

  • @kamicoasts
    @kamicoasts Год назад

    first?

  • @Nicklmeyer
    @Nicklmeyer Год назад +17

    You should do a video like this for steel coaster supports. It would be fun to compare minimalist columns like on B&Ms to complicated, funky supports like on Premiers.

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 Год назад +41

    Yeah, I noticed the steel circular supports they've been using on Zadra and Iron Gwazi. Primarily for the lateral loads of tall sections. I've been sayin for years RMC's coasters are under-engineered and under-supported. Weird they didn't remove the old wood catwalk for the lift hill. It's always blown my mind how their ledgers are strong enough. Like, they always attach to the structure (especially in inversions) in such wonky ways. 2:57 "horizontal" not vertical framing member. ;)

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  Год назад +11

      Haha! Oops!

    • @Mister_Brown
      @Mister_Brown Год назад +8

      i see this a lot on rmc's and really wonder about it but they've obviously done the analysis and i suspect the rails are doing a lot of work spreading the loading out
      also you have to realize a lot of rmc inversions, i'd say most are close to zero g and have very minimal structural loading and a lot of the extreme forces on rmc's are negative gforce, so the weight of the structure actually reduces the tensile strength needed to keep the forces in check, same with underflips that aren't stalls.
      it's why i suspect we'll never see a classic vertical loop on an rmc or a classic arrow style corkscrew, they just put too much force on the structure but i'd love to be proven wrong

    • @mammothfur2961
      @mammothfur2961 Год назад

      @@Mister_Brown The closest thing to a wood supported vertical loop they have gone for is the dive loop on Goliath at SFGAm, so I would say they could do it if they wanted. I just think they don´t find the element itself to be exciting enough to go on a RMC.

  • @Alan_Smith
    @Alan_Smith Год назад +3

    Another great video brother. I feel RMC learned a ton from Steel Vengeance. Zadra and Iron Gwazi alone have shown to be much more sturdy structure and a different build language.

  • @ItsDannyRobbins
    @ItsDannyRobbins Год назад +2

    My analytical enthusiast brain ate this up. Man, S-class content right here.

  • @MichaelRei99
    @MichaelRei99 Год назад +3

    Ryan you got me nerding out on this coasters build structure. You make the complex understandable! Looking forward to riding this multiple times this Summer!! I thought this coaster’s layout definitely looks better than Arieforce one!

  • @JakeBrickmobile
    @JakeBrickmobile Год назад +2

    Just got a Job Working at Canadas wonderland, told them what a block zone was in my interview and got placed at Levithan! Come vist anytime this summer Idd love to meet you

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  Год назад +1

      That’s epic man! Enjoy your season! I hope to hit up Canada’s Wonderland at some point!

  • @Lovefromwcu1
    @Lovefromwcu1 Год назад +2

    I'm happy Wildcat is getting the makeover it deserves. Last time I was on it, it's was incredibly rough and miserable, but I have a soft spot for it due to nostalgia. I can't wait to enjoy the ride again.

  • @squarerootofjess
    @squarerootofjess Год назад +1

    ryan: you might not find this interesting
    me: no go on

  • @braydenisstillhere
    @braydenisstillhere Год назад +3

    I absolutely love how they hid those steel batter bracing supports within the structure. You still get that overall wooden silhouette.

    • @michaelgarbett4088
      @michaelgarbett4088 Год назад +1

      I agree! There is so much charm in the way RMCs look. So much... *aesthetic*

    • @stingray1irwin0
      @stingray1irwin0 Год назад

      Yeah someone had fun designing that

  • @nocapsrage
    @nocapsrage Год назад +1

    Love the content, but I’m not so sure about one point you made. Speaking as a carpenter, I’m not sure that staggering the ribbons adds structural integrity. The benifit of more surface contact to the bend post is negligible, and you said that it allows for “more connections” but in the pictures you really only see one (occssionally 2) lag bolts per ribbon connection, which there would be space for with the standard ribbon layout, so they’re not using the additional contact to add more fasteners. There is also an added benifit to having the ribbons in a line, in that more rigidity is gained by having each ribbon sandwiched in between 2 others, making horizontal movement or rotation of the ribbons harder. Personally, I think it’s more likely it’s just easier to build them staggered, and small variations in lumber length or bend angles won’t then result in a ribbon not fitting because the gap is too small, or not making enough contact with the bend to securely connect it because the gap it too large.

    • @nocapsrage
      @nocapsrage Год назад

      I certainly could be wrong, as I’ve never built anything close to a roller coaster, but that’s my hunch as someone who works a lot with support beams and structures.

  • @Whatchamawhozit
    @Whatchamawhozit Год назад

    RYan, you should do a problematic video of Knoebel's FLying Turns, since it took 7 years to build and finally open. Plus it can educate a lot of people about this classic coaster and how tough it was to build in modern day

  • @fyecoasters
    @fyecoasters Год назад

    Can't wait to get back to Hershey after a LONG time for me at least. Great video keep up the great work! -Josh

  • @blazingaqua9127
    @blazingaqua9127 Год назад

    Hey Ryan, how did you find doing a Civil Engineering degree? I'm hoping to start an undergraduates degree later this year and I'm unsure weather to go for Civil Engineering or Mechanical Engineering?

  • @Striljr
    @Striljr Год назад

    Super psyched for this ride! Wildcat at Hershey Park was incredibly rough. I only went on it once and it was more than enough to give me a bad headache🤕

  • @jameskrten1164
    @jameskrten1164 3 месяца назад

    Great ride but honestly I think I like El Toro better. Even though El Toro is not an RMC. Def falls short of Steel Vengance as an RMC coaster. Wish it was a longer ride

  • @trevorjensen2706
    @trevorjensen2706 Год назад

    "This might not excite you as much as it excites me, but keep in mind I'm just a nerd with a civil engineering degree."
    🤣

  • @paultoczylowski1454
    @paultoczylowski1454 Год назад

    I love the old Wild cat it was immensely rought but so much fun
    You could not help to laugh . IT VERY exciting to have RMC refrebish this coaster. I love El Toro but I think it's time to RMC the track there too
    It is getting rough like the old wild cat. And has some structural damage in the supports frome G force. Have a great day love light creativity

  • @MissMyMusicAddiction
    @MissMyMusicAddiction Год назад

    So, Ryan, what happens when remedial work has to be done to the coaster, like Steel V.? RMC designed it, quoted it, and built it. Would they typically carry some burden, or would that all fall on the customer?

  • @Danrarbc
    @Danrarbc Год назад

    I'm kinda shocked an upgrade to this more refined bracing hasn't been offered to Cedar Point. Then again maybe it has - but I don't know why they'd say no to it. It is clearly working better than SteVe's solution is even now.

  • @cccEngineer
    @cccEngineer Год назад

    That's two mentions of his civil engineering degree in the last two videos. Hmm.... did you just graduate, Ryan?!

  • @johnchambers8528
    @johnchambers8528 Год назад

    While I am sure there will be many fans of the RMC rework of Wildcat, I am not. Wildcat was a great wooden coaster with the thrill of that first drop to a good overall ride. This just destroys a great wooden coaster to appeal to the more wild ride that RMC coasters provide.

  • @ericplatts9100
    @ericplatts9100 Год назад

    Well those rebuilds r awesome, but of course the conversion would bring up latent consequences. But I am sure RMC will do this right.

  • @hogscattle7877
    @hogscattle7877 Год назад

    I can't wait! I have a plan to ride all the coasters in Pa this spring and summer. I'm from the Princeton, NJ area and exited for Hershey Park!

  • @braddougan1919
    @braddougan1919 Год назад

    Couldn't Cedar Point have RMC come back and add steel columns to the wooden structure in certain areas to help with SV?

  • @TheRobertChannel
    @TheRobertChannel Год назад

    I am glad you make videos like this, brings so much understanding to my childhood, great stuff dude keep it up.

  • @BigDCoasterFam
    @BigDCoasterFam Год назад

    Professor Ryan, your breakdown of the ride is intriguing. While I don’t follow all of what you said, it is interesting to see a different take on a coaster

  • @louiselanthier5135
    @louiselanthier5135 Год назад

    Keep it Coming Love! Song by KC and the Sunshine Band! Check it out! He is also the best!

  • @EdsStuff76
    @EdsStuff76 Год назад

    Very nerdy, but slightly disdappointed in the lack of block zone talk.